The Daily Zeitgeist - How To Defeat Gorilla? Presidential Cabinet Of Coddlers 04.30.25

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

In episode 1855, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of Sage-Based Wisdom, Brian Bahe, to discuss… Amazon / Other Companies Considering Putting Tariff Surcharge On Products? Not I...n Trump’s America, Sounds Like Coddling A Senile Old Man Is What Working In The White House Is..., Why Was Everyone Suddenly Talking About 100 Men vs. 1 Gorilla? And more! Amazon / Other Companies Considering Putting Tariff Surcharge On Products? Not In Trump’s America Why Was Everyone Suddenly Talking About 100 Men vs. 1 Gorilla? Steph Getting Ring #5 How to win a fight against twenty children LISTEN: Savalin Stardust by Costal KitesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:22 It's the last day of April. It's also Stop Food Waste Day. It's National Adopt-A-Shelter Pet Day. National Military Bratz Day. National Bubble Tea Day. National Raisin Day. National Oatmeal Cookie Day. Oh, put those together. My most hated cookie. I'm sorry. Oatmeal, raisin, get the fuck out my face. National Bugs Bunny Day. Hairstylist appreciation day and honesty day. What's your favorite? Chocolate chip. I don't have like a favorite. I love chocolate chip. I love double chocolate. I love peanut butter chocolate I have like oatmeal peanut butter, but oatmeal raisin fuck you That's not a cookie. That's a punishment from my grandmother
Starting point is 00:04:02 My grandmother would always make sure I's like, I'm making cookies. And it would be oatmeal raisin. And I remember I got in trouble. Because I'm like, I remember being like, these are cookies. And the way she didn't suffer fools. She like, she was like, then don't ever eat them ever. Don't doesn't suffer fools day.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You know, like the last day of April should be just a day where you don't take no shit from no fools Yeah, I don't know what the opposite of like an April Fool's prank is but we should come up with it It would be like it would be like cutting honesty Cutting honesty. Yeah. Yeah, just airing a grievance Like really something that maybe should be done a little bit more delicately, just forcing that conversation. Like Teutonic Ernest, Ernesty. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:04:52 We don't like your personality, we think it's bad. Right, exactly. Yeah. You're doing a lot all the time. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka AKA pass the puke bag on the right hand aisle. Pass the puke bag on the right hand aisle. Give me that puke bag before he fills my hands. That one courtesy of Snarfula on the discord in reference to the fact that, uh, we
Starting point is 00:05:18 don't, we don't get puke bags as they're not as omnipresent as they, as they once were. They used to be one of the two things that you got in your seat back car. You got the fun little comic, but one page comic about what happens if the plane crashes. And then you got a puke bag and now they're just like, they're cocky. They're calling their shots. They're like, this is going to be a smooth flight. Nobody's going to need to throw up.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Unless you're drunk. You're drunk, in which case we got to throw you off the plane. Drunk, man? What are you, sick? Anyways, my seven-year-old threw up in my hands on the most recent flight. You're dedicated. Dedicated. That's called dedication. This is dedication day.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Hell yeah. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, AKA. All E, lawns things, true griffs, dupes, games, rules with, clenched fist, alt right, no dick, I way No don't know for a hamper watch he's
Starting point is 00:06:30 waiting to blame it on JD Penis won't go cyber trucks blow he's little mask off torsos wet dough Okay, shout out healthy on salad torsos wet dough Okay. Shout out Halcyon salad, torsos wet dough. Thank you. And then he did add that go, by God, by God, by God, by God.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Jim Ross, WWE style for that outro. But anyway, thanks Halcyon salad. Broke that one on the Discord server. Oh, also I know a lot of y'all. I've, please hit me up. There's a new batch of people being like, how do I get on the Discord server? DM me on blue sky. I know I still have some outs, but message me up. There's a new batch of people being like, how do I get on the discord server? DM me on blue sky. I know I still have some outs, but message me there and I will get you discord.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Watch out. Discord is about to be gremlins too up in there. The new batch is coming. Yeah, they're coming, bro. They don't know how to act. They do not know how to act. There's a sports one. There's a- There's one with lipstick that has high heels on. It's very pretty and horny. That was my favorite Gremlin. Yeah. I'm not going to lie. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:07:58 Please welcome back to the show, the hilarious and talented, Brian Bahe! Brian! Hell yeah, what's up? to the show, the hilarious and talented Brian. Hell yeah. What's up? I do want to come out as saying oatmeal raisin cookies are the closest thing we have to dog treats as humans. Like, thank you. It tastes like what a dog would love. I it's great. I love oatmeal.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Like I'll eat oatmeal like I eat it daily. Yeah, I was raised on oatmeal for breakfast. So it's not that I don't like them and I'll even eat raisin, but like together, it is not a treat. It's not an oatmeal. It's not a treat. Yeah. Oatmeal is just like a treat.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I'm a B I'm not gonna lie. Really? What are you putting in that shit? I'll put like chocolate milk and shit in there. I'm putting chocolate milk in your oatmeal. It is the perfect foundation for anything sweet. Like if anything, I put peanut butter in there sometimes. Yeah, you guys are nasty with it.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I need to step my oatmeal. I'm Van Gogh with it. Oatmeal was like a thing that a doctor once told me I had to eat because my cholesterol was too high. I have like, you know, hereditarily high cholesterol and it works. But I just like always associated it with being like a fucking staple. That you just kind of crammed down there. My dad would be instant oatmeal with boiling water and then to cool it off a splash of milk.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. And so I was raised on the splash of milk to cool off the oatmeal. And then that escalated. I said, what I'm putting chocolate in, but I'm going to put some eggnog in here. Why don't I try some other shit? And it all goes. I will say that my favorite cookie is the white chocolate chip macadamia nut from subway.
Starting point is 00:09:38 From some. You went specific. The reason those are so good. They are. Cookies are goaded. Yeah. Although I'm not going to eat that foot long one that they're trying to push. I'm like, bro, just keep it regular. I don't need a long cookie.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yes. They're doing. They're just like, long is our brand. We're doing foot long nachos now. Doritos nachos. Yeah. It's really bad. Brian, this year is fucked. Any thoughts on what the end of April should be if like if April 1st is April fools
Starting point is 00:10:11 I felt like I saw you maybe winding up to chime in there when we were talking about it in case I was Maybe April I think you're on the right track with honesty, right? Maybe April April cools. Oh You're so cool, you're just brutally honest, oh Fools is a little April fools is a little weird out. It's like not trying to be cool. It's just like a little nerdy It's a little like If yes, we're wearing Hawaiian shirts. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Like that. We're acting like it. April's April cools is just like a day where you get to be cool as fuck and like tell people the truth. You're smoking a filterless Newport because you rip the filter off because you're an animal like that. And then you're looking at, oh, dude, I could totally. I definitely know why your parents got divorced.
Starting point is 00:11:04 They were wrong. Cool. Have you your parents got divorced. They were wrong to have you. Yeah, exactly. They were wrong to have you. All right, Brian, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First a couple of stories that we're talking about. There was a good idea proposed by Amazon that I could see them doing and other companies following except they got yelled at by Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Now they're not doing it anymore because authoritarianism works. What, selling Nazi merchandise? No. They already do that. Oh, okay. It's to put the amount that your price went up based on the tariffs, like on the price. So they're like, so, you know, why, and why wouldn't they like that way? They're not catching shit for like the price going up and they're not, you know, they're not changing it.
Starting point is 00:11:56 So like they just, anyways, it's a good idea. And it, one angry phone call from Donald Trump to Jeff Bezos. And that idea is over. I do hope like other companies that aren't run by tech oligarchs who are trying to be best friends with Donald Trump might pick this up, but real good kind of window into how things work that we'll look at as well as just like what, what's going on in the White House. It seems like it's just a lot of coddling, a lot of coddling. A lot of lying to grandpa.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah. Where it's, I have a question. Yeah. I don't know if you guys are the ones to answer this. We are. This is a podcast. Do the tariffs go to the government? No.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Where do they go? Do the tariffs go to the government? We have an extra money that's being paid. Like where does that money go? Yeah, I guess they do go to the government, right? Oh, oh, oh, you're charging in terms of who's paying the S yes. Yes. Like, are you getting the money that is that's collected by that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Collected by customs, which is part of government. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then customs is going to come rolling next time I go through customs. They're all going to be wearing like four chains. Right. Customs just all of a sudden has like super expensive sunglasses on it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 They have like people handling their shit for them. Yeah. It basically, I think what they, customs collects it, but then it goes to like a thing, the treasure, it ultimately like the treasure. Yeah. And then that gets redistributed to all of us, right? No, no, that goes, well, I mean, sure, Jack, whichever, which version do you want me to tell you about? The other version is-
Starting point is 00:13:36 Tell me a happy story, Papa. They are drinking our collective fucking milkshake right now with that. They just go, thank you. All up here now. Yeah. Sound like that milkshake was going up your nose. I'm not going to lie to you.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Hey man. Look, so how, how I get down, man. And we'll talk about the debate that is once again raging on the internet. Uh, 100 ma'am verse one gorilla is the old debate, but all of a sudden it was like, I don't know. It was like, so you know when like a big news event happens and you check Twitter and it's just like 10 straight tweets that are all about the same thing. That's what I got yesterday from this old like Reddit post, like suddenly just like. Oh, so people are quote, I saw like a black Twitter post about a hundred guys fighting one gorilla over
Starting point is 00:14:28 the weekend and I thought maybe it was that, but also the internet, everything happened in cycles. So yeah, yeah. Well, it's just an old debate, but like this old idea flared up over the weekend and now we are, everybody was talking about it. So we're going to talk about it. I thought have not changed. My thoughts will never change. We don't write the zeitgeist. We're going to talk about it. My thoughts have not changed. My thoughts will never change.
Starting point is 00:14:45 We don't write the zeitgeist, we just report on it folks. We'll talk about that, all that, plenty more. But first, Brian Bahe, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? My search history lately,
Starting point is 00:15:02 I've been going down this rabbit hole of TikTok's given me a lot of sports content lately. And I'm seeing a lot of edits of like basketball players from like the 90s. And so I was looking up Jordan ones. I'm in the market for some Jordan one. Wow, as somebody who with who has almost no familiarity with the game of basketball or just from two weeks of watching clips on TikTok. Am I now attempting to make this my entire identity? This? This feels like exactly why brands love social media. They're like, yeah, this comedian, we've got a fuck all about basketball.
Starting point is 00:15:46 He's trying to buy ones. Now look what we did with the algorithm. Wait, so what happened? What exactly got piqued your interest about the Jordan ones from these videos? Like you just kept seeing the shoe over and over and you're like, Oh no, what's no, I'm just like, I'm like, what's like a, cause I feel like lately the sports content has been kind of it. It's been hitting a home run in a way. There's
Starting point is 00:16:07 the women's college Playoffs was huge for me. There is the PGA PGA was actually you do Yes. Oh, man. I saw some wild edits of that putting for some reason. I was like getting a lot of it. I was like, this is really like heartwarming to me. And then somehow out of that, I went down. I think it's because of the the women's college. I've just like slowly like more basketball stuff is giving to me and I'm eating it up.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I'm just watching it. You know, it's almost like watching skateboarding videos in a way where it's like it's like fun music is being played over all these. Whoa, that was something. OK. I'm like, wait, that's really that speaks to me. Right. Yeah. And then now Jordan once now you're in the market for Jordan. One now I'm in the market for. I mean, you were watching some old shit if you saw somebody playing basketball in Jordan ones, right?
Starting point is 00:17:07 I don't think anybody in the modern NBA is playing. Yeah. The converse all stars. Back when the NBA was a race war. Yeah. Oh, you're not in the right subreddits. If you don't think it is still. I was just like watching, I guess it was a podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It was like one of those things is basically just like a YouTube channel where like people talk and like, it was like a 20 minute clip of a guy just naming all the top scorers by white guys in NBA history by season. I was like, what the fuck? What a weird rain man trait to have. I know. I'm like white supremacist sports rain man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I only know the white guys. Googly-ata man. There's a name you don't hear very often anyway. Yeah. Tom googly-ata was on there. That was the nineties. Cause that name sounds very familiar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:01 It was the nineties. Yeah. What, what is bringing this about Brian? You just, the sports content entered your feet and you started fucking with it. Or is there like, are you hanging out with like a bunch of sportos now? Yeah, I'm hanging out at the port side lately. Buffalo wild wings. I think it's also just like the, this like hashtag, like hope core of it all.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Oh, like, Oh, so you're seeing like your dream. Oh, you're seeing hope core sports at hope core. Oh, okay. The best of the best. Right. For some reason, uh, that's where I am mentally right now. That makes sense. We all know.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Cause like the agro straight guy versions I see on TikTok are the ones that start off with like heavily edited Brazilian Biley funk songs. It's like, Beto, Chica, Tico, Tico, and it's like, boom, gong,
Starting point is 00:18:54 gong, boom, gong, and it's just like Ray Allen dunking a bunch. And I'm like, yeah. Ray Allen dunking a bunch? Yeah, like it's just weird. That's just like weird.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Ray Allen was a problem and you guys don't even realize it. Like people are just like, it feels like just AI is making them or something. We're like, yo, check out Brett Barry's three-point shoot. By the way, we got to, if you listened to Dr. Kerry McInerney's episode yesterday, she hit us and followed up with like a couple of articles about AI and like what it about AI and what they're trying to do to us. Intention.
Starting point is 00:19:28 To our free will. There's an intention market where they're like, anyways, we will have an update on that story coming soon, but it's fucking terrifying. Well, Jordan wants a classic shoe. What size do you guys have them? I got a pair. I got a pair. I got a pair.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Yeah, I had a pair, but then they burned in the fire and then a comedian shout out Ian Carmel. He gave me a pair of Jordan ones. The, uh, the shadow, the gray shadow ones. Uh, gray black. Yeah. Yeah. The gray black ones.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah. They're very narrow. If you have wide feet, I would, I would, I would advise to size up. I actually do have narrow feet. Oh, then you're, oh, this would, I would, I would advise to size up. I actually do have narrow feet. Oh, then you're, then you are, oh, you have found your shoes. You're going to love these. I'm kind of like Jordan like that. And we both have narrow feet.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah, for sure. And it's a terrible gambling problem. I feel like they're very versatile to the Jordan ones. Well, now they're just, they're so, that silhouette is just so timeless now. It's just like sneaker shape. Yeah, like all those, what's that one shoe that you can buy that looks like it's been beat to shit and it costs like $500?
Starting point is 00:20:34 Golden Goose. Yeah, yeah, like those are all basically, like their high tops all look like Jordan ones, I feel like. Yeah, like blazers. It's all, yeah. I can't. Golden Goose is the biggest red flag
Starting point is 00:20:43 I've ever seen on a human being. Yeah, totally. If anybody's wearing that, I'm like, I'm crossing the street. I'm like, I agree. Yeah. It's so weird to like cosplay. Like I'm living in these, like these clothing items to buy like pre-distressed things. I'm just like, yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:21:06 plenty of distress to go around. I don't know. You don't need you doing the distress. You better be like Matt Damon at the end of private Ryan and earn this, this golden goose. Uh, what is something you think's underrated Brian? Um, so I'm watching the pit. I'm kind of, uh, really into the pit. Shout out emergency rooms. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Shout out IV drips. And it's like it's reminding me that like, I feel like we've spent so much time in media, like really kind of loving the anti hero and somebody that's just like digging themselves in this hole and then trying to get out of the hole Yeah, like I forgot there's like really cool stories about people that are actually like doing well and trying to do good at their job Right. Yeah doing my way for people. This is actually what's up. Wait, so like what what drug problems does this doctor have? There's no drug. He actually he actually just helped too many people during COVID. Yeah. I need at least a light drug problem. He needs to be doing it while drunk.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Has the season ended? I think it has, but I haven't finished it. Yeah. It really like connected. Like in a way that's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. There was a preview for it, like a 15 second teaser that like played before something I was watching on Max
Starting point is 00:22:27 Where he's like going to take a piss in the bathroom and somebody's like there's an emergency He has to like stop himself from pissing to like go with the emergency. That's that's that dedication That like stressed me out man. That's someone you you can sign up to fight a gorilla with you and a hundred other dudes. If you can stop your piss, that kind of. Just 10 of them. I feel like the whole, the gorilla question really comes down to whether you're able to do the thing that we love seeing in action movies and assemble a team, you know? Like, do you get to go out because the original question was like now? It's just a random group of a hundred, but I think if we can
Starting point is 00:23:09 Select our team we might have a chance. I will clone Lawrence Taylor on crack Taylor is a good thing the first 50. I need Lawrence. That's what I'm thinking Lawrence Taylor football coach and a Primatologist those are three the three things that I need. To people to assemble the team? Yeah. Those are the three first picks.
Starting point is 00:23:31 You need, I would pick 10 people with, you know, those grip strength things. Yeah. How strong your grip is. I think that's really what's key. Cause a gorilla is going to try to fling you off. If your grip is strong, you're going to hang on. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So like people who do like rock climbing, they have insane grip strength. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're also good in like the running, the approach, like if they're like park. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Save this for this. I mean, now guys, we're really going to build the, this is why, this is why it's back now, maybe I'm back. Ah, damn it. Maybe I'm back. Ah, damn it. Maybe I'm back. I think about it just a little bit harder. Brian, what is something you think is overrated? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:11 So that that my pit thing was anti heroes. Yeah, I think they're overrated. We're done with it. Leave that shit in. Um, when we weren't in the age of Aquarius, because we are in the age of Aquarius. It's currently as currently a few months ago That's great news for me. Is that yeah, that's from hair. It's great. It's when all the it's like Historically, I don't know anything about what I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:24:38 Historically, it's when like the huge like revolutions and shit happened. Oh good. All right. Oh hell, yeah I think we kind of need that right now guys low key. I think we need that right now All right, so that was your under and overrated under it is the pit overrated is anti-heroes anti-heroes No underrated was Fuck actually forget what I just said. No, you say the pit No, the pit was me leading into anti-hero I think and here is overrated. Oh and underrated is Something else is the pit
Starting point is 00:25:14 Wait, oh, oh, I fuck this up processed food. Oh That's okay. So he's underrated Okay, so I think we flipped your overrated and underrated. I know. Let's do that. Okay. Okay. So I think we flipped your overrated and underrated. What, what's something you think is underrated? Process food. Okay. Why process?
Starting point is 00:25:33 Which one? What kind? What's the most underrated process food? I think like cheese. Processed cheese, American cheese. Yeah. I'm just kind of like, oh, healthy. It's like picking the grossest one.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeah, American, just oil and water in the shape of fucking. I am fully in agreement that I love American cheese. Like the melt, the melting point on that shit is so crucial. Like, yes, I guess I was made in a lab. I used to rake my teeth over the edges of the plastic to make sure I was getting all that cheese off when I was a kid. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Watch behind. It stays melty even at like room temp. It's like melts at room temp is a wild, is a wild quality for a substance to have. Watching the craft singles get squirted into the plastic and then the plastic kind of adhering around it is pretty fascinating. Poetry. Yeah. And it is pretty fascinating. Poetry. Poetry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:27 That's the Hopecore edit that I should be watching. Yeah. Well, I guess, I mean, we shouldn't be surprised that processed food is your underrated because you said that your favorite cookie is white chocolate, macadamia nut cookies from Subway. Yeah. Yeah. They're always moist.
Starting point is 00:26:47 They are. They are. And you know why? Because they are sprayed down with chemicals that aren't available to anybody except Fortune 500 corporations and the US military. Brian just, he trusts the process. That's right. You got to trust the process.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I think we need to stop having, trying to have so much control over everything. That's right. trusts the process. That's right. You got to trust the process I think we need to stop having trying to have so much control over everything. That's right. That's the process It's delicious, right? Control works in the short term long term. It's a bad strategy It's gonna it's gonna fuck you up trying to control everything just to let it go Eat the fucking processed food trust the processed trust the process And we we know how well that worked out for the 76ers, so it'll probably work out for all of us as well. That's my basketball team, Brian.
Starting point is 00:27:32 You need a Hope Corps Sixers at it, man. Really, that's what you need. I do not. I'm going over here. I'm dead, man. I need to not think about that shit for a little while. Yeah. All right. Great to have you back, Brian. We're going to take a little while. Yeah, yeah. Well. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Great to have you back, Brian. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back. We're going to talk about some of this news. You heard about this stuff, the news? We'll be right back. And the dream season is now complete. The Golden State Warriors are the 2015 NBA champions.
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Starting point is 00:31:31 The idea is to put the cost that the tariffs were costing, the amount of the tariffs were costing people onto each item. So the thing that used to be $7 is now $13. They just say the tariff surcharge is $6 and people understand. Well, I guess that wasn't Amazon's fault that everything's more expensive. Is this their fault that they're passing it on to us? It is their fault that they're passing it on. I mean, so that's what Trump was like, a big corporation like that,
Starting point is 00:32:02 like can't afford the $6. And it's like, no, that's not how these fucking things work. What are you crazy? like a big corporation like that, like can't afford the $6. And it's like, no, that's not how these fucking things work. What are you crazy? Um, but anyways, you know, the publicly traded company is certainly not going to be like, yeah, and we will just, we will stomach that and just dwindle away in our revenue. That's cause that's how American companies think. But anyways, they were, they were thinking about doing that. And then they got a call from daddy and Donald Trump got mad and called them.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And they immediately backtracked and pretended Stalin style. Not only do they, are they like, no, we're not going to do that anymore. They're like, that never happened. We would never consider doing that. Who told you that? They're probably all fucked up on drugs or something. Cause that was never even going to happen. And the person who says that disappears from all pictures, past and future.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Just cut out of it. Was that Hunter? Was that sounds like something Hunter would say. But yeah, like this and CNN, they're saying, quote, Trump called Bezos to complain about reports that Amazon was considering displaying the cost of US tariffs next to prices for certain products on the website. The call came shortly after one of the senior officials phoned the president to inform him of the story. Quote, of course he was pissed.
Starting point is 00:33:15 One of the officials who was granted anonymity to speak candidly told CNN, why should a multi why should a multi billion dollar company pass off costs to consumers? Good call. Good question. I'm like, you're really saying you've never been to America before? That's a thing you're saying out loud. And then at a briefing Tuesday, White House press secretary Caroline Levitt called the move quote, a hostile and political
Starting point is 00:33:35 act, adding that she had spoken about the matter with President Trump earlier. Yes, really. Yeah. It sounds like a kind of do you think someone actually in the White House saying? Why should a multi-billion dollar company pass off cost to consumers the multi-billion dollar companies should be absorbing those costs to keep prices low Oh, that's completely against the philosophical like mission of all
Starting point is 00:33:57 Corporations in America. I mean I agree Yeah, yeah, it's just wildly unrealistic that they're not going to pass it on. That's something Elizabeth Warren says. Right. Exactly. Who are you, Elizabeth Warren? But like out of the White House again, because I think for all of this, the thing that they just aren't saying out loud is why are you showing the cost of it to make us look bad
Starting point is 00:34:20 for the dumbest fucking economic policy people have seen this the last few centuries, maybe since the tulip fucking shit. The tulip panic. Yeah. The tulip panic. Like what the fuck are y'all talking about? Tulip mania. Ah, yes, yes, yes. Yes, of course. Tulip mania. Many people are saying this is the best idea since tulip mania. It's also frustrating to me because it's truly unimaginable for me that a democratic president would be able to get a corporation to stop what they're doing by yelling at them, but also that they would even try, you know, because they are the party of the corporations where they think these are their friends. I feel like, well, see the Republicans used to, but in pursuit of like total,
Starting point is 00:35:06 like a total white ethno state, like they have to now be like, sorry, y'all. Like you have to do everything we say now. That's, that's just sort of the game at this point. But yeah, there's no way. Yeah. I mean, look, Biden could have said something when it was clear that quote unquote inflation, so much of that was just corporate greed because they were it, they got us, they got to knock that off. Was like kind of like the energy we got from the White House then. I mean, Harris came out and was like, this is going to be a big part of my campaign is that like the reason that things inflation was happening.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And then she got shouted down externally, like in the papers, but she was like, I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. of my campaign is that like the reason that things, inflation was happening. And then she got shouted down externally, like in the papers by, you know, economists and quote, and then also internally because like one of Doug's
Starting point is 00:35:56 brothers or something, I forget who it was, but it was like someone, someone who's like close to her, not because of like being associated because of their job, but because of like a familial or like friend connection was like on the board at Uber or something, you know, like influential in the world of capital. Her brother-in-law, it was her brother-in-law, Tony West. Came at her and was like, uh, this is a bad look for you. So this is not wall street approved.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Cause that was the New York times headline was Harris had a wall street approved economic pitch. Yes, exactly. She said, are, okay, wait. So are the tariffs set up? I feel like I'm the six year old in this. That's fine. If you're six, I'm five.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I had a terrace set up to like make all just like manufacturing and shit American based and so that way. That's like the very abstract idea, but in practice it's, it's going to take years to get any kind of semblance of manufacturing at levels that could be like, well now everything is American made. It's going to take years. And also the cost there's the, the cost of labor is still high in the United States. So every, that's not changing any for sure,
Starting point is 00:37:15 unless we have a total sea change of like what we pay people. So because we pay the people who work in factories enough that they can even pay the prices that's justified by the cost of labor. It's all very like, they're just selling a fever dream because most people will just stop thinking at the, well, yeah, man, cause then we're just going to start building stuff here. And then we're going to get jobs and everything's going to start. And it's like, that's, that ship has set sail. Yeah. It's not going to happen. Yeah. And now American consumers are way too reliant on very cheap goods.
Starting point is 00:37:46 For that's you there's an it's cheap because the places that they're exploiting the people's labor to make this shit is cheap. It is not cheap to do that here because they will all ages won't pay people living wages and if they like, again, for all of that to happen, so many things have to also go up to make everything be like, oh, well, I can't afford this new American made thing because my wages have gone up three times. Exactly. Like if they want to, if that's what they want, they need to also do take the steps to make it realistic for so many other.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah, yeah, because this is like even, this is just again, I think that's where people's thinking ends. And now we're at this place now where a lot of people are using the Wile E. Coyote off the cliff meme because shipping from China has basically cratered. And they're like, now, see this pause in stuff of goods that was coming out of the hose, wait till we get to that air gap in the hose and nothing's coming out anymore. And that's when there's a lot, it's going to be a lot of chaos, at least
Starting point is 00:38:47 for like, you know, the kinds of consumer goods that we have important. Toilet paper shortage will apply to other things like the toilet paper shortage from the early pandemic. You're going to see that in many different places. Yeah. For just like things that you weren't counting on. It's like, oh, like cheap toys for kids or things like that. Like all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And many others. Oh, I can do without those. Jesus Christ. I think that you get party favors that break after two seconds. This is bad news for the, um, for kind of the action movie industry, because I feel like a lot of kind of the act threes in Your Fast and the Furiouses or something, they all take place in like those big metal shipping containers. And if we're not using those anymore, then the audience is going to be like,
Starting point is 00:39:28 this isn't realistic. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it's among many unpopular ideas that the Trump administration has pursued full blast. And I think a lot of people have assumed, like, slash hoped that, well, this is like, he trumps a maverick. He's like, he's a capitalist. He knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And the reason he's pursuing these is because even though he knows they're wildly unpopular, he has a gut instinct and he's just gonna ride with it. And we're also seeing reporting that that's not true. he has a gut instinct and he's just gonna ride with it. And we're also seeing reporting that that's not true. He actually doesn't realize they're unpopular. He is like a celebrity who's been surrounded by, it's like the celebrity. He's Katy Perry.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Yeah, or like a comedian who gets like too famous and then like they're, the album, two albums after they have like a house that with like 20 people who work for them at it, and then they come out and you're just like, wait, this person seems like they're on a different planet than me. Like that, yeah, Katy Perry, I guess. Shout out, shout out, Aziz. Blissfully unaware of what's happening around him. Because like the Amazon story, along with the ones about the polls and Trump's reaction
Starting point is 00:40:51 to them, like the latest poll, not even the last poll we talked about on the show, like the latest ones that came out over the weekend and early this week, again, paints this picture of people managing his moods to keep things going. And it like, again, that whole thing about like, what's a multi? Why isn't a multi-billion dollar corporation able to stomach that stuff? They're trying to make this look bad. Sounds like a thing someone says to Donald Trump about why everything is fucked up and he's right. Yeah, they can afford it.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah, Bezos can afford it. He's not going to do that. He's going to pass it on to consumers. Okay, America can afford to give people health care. Yeah. And? Okay, so we don't always believe if you can afford it, you should do it. So then shut the fuck up. So like the latest polls, right?
Starting point is 00:41:34 The Times has Trump's approval rating at 42%. The Washington Post has him at 39%. Trump just got on Truth Social and saying stuff like these fake news polls from fake news organizations. He said these organizations are sick and the enemy of the people. He's like, the famous pollster John McLaughlin, he even says these are fake polls.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Then also not mentioning, he's like, this is a guy I hired to do my polls. Yeah, he works for him. This famous pollster. Mad at Fox. Again, this is just shock. Like this shock over these numbers are based on living in an echo chamber where staff are telling him how much he is killing it.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And we know how much he watches press briefings and like the way Caroline Levitt talks, it's clearly to please the audience of Trump. And I think this, what the Republicans are doing, especially with project 2025, they have to destroy a lot of these norms in order to get their agenda through in the way they see it, you know, happening in their dreams. So the best way to get unpopular policies backed by the president is to obscure how unpopular they are and even straight up lie and tell him that people fucking love shit like Doge or the tariffs
Starting point is 00:42:46 or that they are not illegal like the shit he's doing with trafficking, disappearing immigrants, or canceling visas for kids who exercise their right to free speech. You're the man, King. He's in his like fat Elvis stage right now. Right. I feel like, you know, just like, oh man, that was hilarious. Tiny Elvis. That was crazy with you. Do you remember the tiny eldest sketch from SNL in the early nineties. That was so sick when you roundhouse kicked that mannequin president Trump. Cool.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like, okay. But I mean, you look at this one quote, right from, this is from an interview a couple of weeks ago when time interviewed Trump. This is very telling. This is from time quote, the Supreme court ruled that Time interviewed Trump. This is very telling. This is from Time. Quote, the Supreme Court ruled that this is them asking about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. This is the person asking Trump. The Supreme Court ruled that you have to bring Kilmar Abrego Garcia back.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Aren't you disobeying the Supreme Court? Trump responded, quote, that's not what my people told me. They say that this 9-0 decision was something very different and actually was something in my favor. Which like we saw that and we assumed that that was, they were joking. Right. Like we saw him say, Oh, like that. So somebody asked him about the Supreme court and he was like that, that was for us.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Right. And they were like, yeah, yeah, boss, that was for us. And then everybody kind of laughed. Like I, I didn't think that he actually believed that this 9-0 decision that went against him was actually for him. That's a startling lack of contact with reality. It is if your brain is the consistency of Nickelodeon Floam from the early 90s and you are so senile
Starting point is 00:44:24 that truly you just, the repetition of a sentence will then become your reality. That's like what this totally is. Cause he's even like, what? Illegal? No, that's not, he always says a thing. He's like, no, I'm not, my people told me that, that's not the case. When it's like, oh, are they, they're telling you this?
Starting point is 00:44:42 This makes sense. Not to excuse anything what Trump's doing, but I think it just shows his mental state. And these people are basically realizing, OK, we can get them to do really unpopular shit if we lie about it. And then when the shit hits the fan freak out and then dial back things like the tariffs or him softening his stance on China or whatever. But yeah, it's coddling old man day every day. It's the downside of manifesting in a way. Yeah. I mean, the only people who are allowed to manifest are these massive CEOs and the people who have just lucked their way into being the one in a million who
Starting point is 00:45:20 actually succeed all the way in capitalism. And then they become surrounded by a bunch of people who are just managing them, you know, and just like trying, like trying to create whatever they think that person wants to see. It's like the whole world of celebrity. It's the whole world of like the people who are like billionaires are, have not been anywhere in the realm of reality for you know since they hit a billion dollars you know yes and he's like all of those things combined he's a celebrity billionaire ceo president and like he's just so insulated he's like the gecko Geico in a way. He's kind of just like, go on in many ways.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Fake accent even. Yeah. No, but it is like what you're saying, Jack. It's the same. It's like having a terrible entourage as a celebrity. Like, yeah, at a certain point, all those people you hire, they realize they have to keep the money hose on for their like, for like their livelihoods too, and they're like, yeah, take that gig.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah, do this, do this. Because I need you to be working for me to get a check. We'll fucking do whatever. Unfortunately, like you're saying, it's now all coming together in the form of a presidency. As Brian pointed out, like the Geico Gecko, the number one celebrity who's like around the poisonous entourage. Like the Gecko Geckos like has massive coke problem. That like, I mean, that's been documented. I don't know if we should add Justin, maybe let's cut that.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I don't want to, I don't want our life to be threatened with. You know, we, we care. Like it's, we hope he gets the recovery. I didn't ask legal about this. But he's also very well connected in like, you know, the dark underbelly of American salamander or crime society. He said ducks disappeared just for, you know, looking like the athletic duck, but he is Gilbert Godfrey.
Starting point is 00:47:18 What happened? It's just like, Oh, you thought those are natural cause. Um, I, yeah, we, we hope he gets the help he needs, but like with the entourage around him that he has, like, you know, it's just a bunch of people paid to get him to the next commercial gig and like, keep him from flipping out. Well, think about like, think about like, if you, I don't know, this is like a weird example, but like if your grandparents are like babysitting you and your bunch of friends and like, do my grandpa's fucking out of it, dude, he will drive us to buy fireworks.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Tell them they're legal. Right. Right. Actually, you can play with them at 13 years old and not 18. Watch. Yeah. Dude, grandpa, can you take us to get fireworks? I thought they're too young. No, they just changed the law that you can actually be nine years old and not 18. Watch. Yeah, dude, grandpa, can you take us to get fireworks? I thought they you're too young.
Starting point is 00:48:05 No, they just changed the law that you can actually be nine years old and handle fireworks. Oh, OK. Can we go? Sure. Like, that's the same thing. It's like, can we like disappear a bunch of immigrants right now? And I don't know if Trump's first reaction is like, that's unconscionable, but they're going to be like, it's people are going to fucking love it. And then he's like, oh, well, they're going to be like, it's, people are going to fucking love it.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And then he's like, oh, well, they're going to love it. Sure. And I'm not, I don't, I don't have enough critical thinking skills to really do anything else. And it's aligned with my slight desire to, you know, mistreat people of color. So yeah, let's go get fireworks. It's just a cloud of power that has no center to it. And everyone's trying to like, it's like a vape cloud that they're
Starting point is 00:48:44 just trying to push in one direction. I mean, vape clouds are cool compared to this guy. That's true. Yeah. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about what's on everybody's mind. The debate over 100 person, one gorilla. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:52:21 The... The Floam reference, Miles. I don't want that to go by without being remarked on. It's okay. Like I said, check my bio encyclopedic knowledge of the 90s. Is that the one that was like, that would almost like crackle when you molded it? Yeah. It was like a bunch of little beads almost like held together.
Starting point is 00:52:39 It was really like, what if rice Krispy treats was toy? What if Rice Krispys gave you bowel problems? If you even touch your mouth after handling it But now it's like every it's if you ate them they were in your body for the rest of your life and also your children's lives Your progeny also now every third person is like gooning to ASMR shit and we have we have flown to thank for that I know exactly. We were just out here just trying to figure it out on our own
Starting point is 00:53:08 with Nickelodeon Floam. I gave it the full brand name because I felt like people would forget if I didn't properly say Nickelodeon Floam. Nickelodeon Floam. A larger and larger part of their body is just made out of Floam. It's like instead of a left knee, I have Floam down there. I can just mold it and remold it as I walk.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Anyways, old debate. And this is not, this is not the story that I thought I was going to be talking about today and yet, like I said, we report on this like guys, we don't make it. Yesterday, I had the experience of checking social media and it just being Yesterday I had the experience of checking social media and it just being wall to wall, uh, 100 men versus one gorilla, you know, commentary videos. And so this is an old debate. I mean, this sort of debate, you know, there was one of my favorite articles from the early days of cracked, like 2008 cracked, I think was by this writer,
Starting point is 00:54:03 Chris Buckles, that was just like how to fight 20 children, like as one person. And it was just like really well thought out and good advice that has shaped me as a person. That you've used many times. Yeah, yeah. I'll link off to that as my work in media. But it is kind of one of those questions that like, once you start thinking about it, it's kind of hard to stop. I will say the original question as originally posed on Reddit five years ago, I
Starting point is 00:54:35 think has a fairly simple answer because they really stacked the deck against the humans. Oh yeah. Yeah. The original question was like, all right, first round, you can only go two at a, two men at a time. Yeah. Like in a gorilla and they're in a gorilla exhibit. The second one is in a construction as at a construction site and you can go 10 at
Starting point is 00:54:55 a time, they also say that it just has to be like 100 average people. And then the third one, I guess you can go all at once, but you're not going to have many people left after those first two rounds to go all at once, which is like, really your only hope. I think all of the, the sort of modifiers are meaningless because really the question is how can what just enough in a fair one. Okay. Yeah. No tools, no weapons.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Not because this guy's basically bringing up like Rainbow Road type shit. We're like the one that mcgrillian fall off the edge or some shit. No. What is it going to take for 100 human beings to beat the fuck out of a gorilla? Yeah. Like a cage match or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And my first reaction is it's not happening. It's not happening ever. My big thing with all of this is human beings don't have fangs.
Starting point is 00:55:54 They cannot draw blood. So you're counting on purely overpowering a gorilla. I mean, we do have fangs, Miles. But you know, can you draw blood from through that gorilla's fur? Probably if I had to, if he stayed, if I had to, if he stayed still for a little bit, I beat the finger real hard. Yeah, Charlie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I probably could.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I can bite through a lot. I got what I'm saying. That's how I see a gorilla somehow, like if it fought a tiger, it's because the tiger slashes the gorilla. And it's like it's leaking. Yeah, it's in a straight up. Hold the gorilla fucking hundred people aren't holding that down. The first guy that gets ripped in fucking half by this thing. All 99 other people are going to go, no.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Right. You need to overcome the things that I think you need. I think first of all, we need to, we need a draft, like, and not, not a, like military draft. Where we're going by birthday. I think we need to, McGroover style, get to put together a team. McGroover the film, not the SNL sketch. Oh, thank you. Which I, the film, the film sketch, the sketch is a completely different thing. The film. The film. The sketch. The sketch is a completely different thing.
Starting point is 00:57:07 The film is a work of art. I think we need to be able to intentionally assemble a team. I think there needs to be some sort of a squid game style motivation that is going to prevent what you're talking about. Where they see a person get ripped in half and everybody's like, this is not worth it. It needs to be worth it.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Like it needs to be 100 men and the griller in the cage. And like, it's not over until. That would be sick in squid game, like in the actual, like a new season of squid game, like when there's like 400 people left, it's like all 400 of y'all versus gorilla right now. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You see, y'all are gonna die. A lot of y'all gonna die. But 400, 400 feels like maybe. 400. So how are you? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:57:57 100 is different than 100. Other than like, I feel like a gorilla killing 300 people with its bare hands may tire the gorilla get tired And then the other ones are just like coming up and like kind of yeah Then you have a shot feel like that would probably be true after like 50, right? Like that's a lot of people to kill I could see that I almost think Now I think you could almost it can be it can almost be a random assortment of a hundred people It doesn't they don't you don't even need to do a draft. You just need a coach That's right. Yeah, like a like a maestro a conductor. Yes a maestro who's running plays and basically the goal of every play is
Starting point is 00:58:39 Somebody goes for the eyes. I think once you get the eyes Brian Okay, they're I like that. Okay. They're right down. That is right. It's got to be the eyes. Although, all right. So this is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's got to be the eyes. That convinced me in a split second. At first I was like, we need a legendary football coach. Dude, I think Brian's the coach. No, I know. Well, now I'm thinking we need still, still I want Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlin from the Steelers from the Steelers. Like just every year they have a terrible team.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Everyone's like, these guys are going to win two games this year. And every year they are like a two seed. Right. And he's just has energy. He like yells at everybody, cut your eyelids off, cut your eyelids off when they go out to play, which is just like, so I don't know. And also a great tactician,
Starting point is 00:59:33 although we might not need one with Brian. No, no, no. This Brian has absolutely- I was thinking primatologist would be helpful, like somebody who can really speak to it. But like a primatologist where you've like, you know, kidnapped their kid, because otherwise they're going to be like, we should let the gorilla kill us. Yeah, because I don't want to introduce like, you know, there could be something like gorillas hate, like reflective material
Starting point is 00:59:56 or something like maybe like a non weapon object that evens it up. But I don't even like that idea because now we're not talk. We're talking about 100. Yes, 100 people with tools can beat in a gorilla, right with just if we're going to brass tacks, bare hands and feet. I think Brian Yes, you you take out the vision. Now you're dealing with an animal has no situational awareness. And now you can kind of get a little like, but even
Starting point is 01:00:22 then, you're gonna be teasing it. Yeah, yeah. kind of get a little like, but even then you're going to be teasing it. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. But either way terrified. All of a sudden we still haven't solved the part that you have negated the absolute exponentially higher strength of the gorilla because the second you
Starting point is 01:00:43 grab it, the gorilla will just put hands on you, rip you in half, even if it can't see. And I feel like he's going to, he's going to take the gorilla off even more. We, with his eyes being all poked out. That gorilla is PO'd. Yeah. I, so I was, I was fully on the, you just overwhelm it with a hundred at once. And then this, uh, Guardian article about this debate pointed out that somebody
Starting point is 01:01:04 did a three professional soccer players, three professional football players versus 100 children. Oh, I saw that. That was in Japan. In Japan. Yeah. And the professional soccer players won. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 But they beat the shit out of them. They want, I mean, they won one, nothing, but like, I don't, that may be. If you see the video, they had like 60 kids in goal, like literally 60, like there were like 60 kids dressing as goalkeepers in the goal. And they just had to kind of head it in over them. But like the way they just the three of them just spread the field out and were just hitting long balls that they can like, like just had the kids chasing. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:42 And it was pretty it was pretty impressive. If it's the one I'm thinking of, cause I've definitely seen that one. I was like, yeah, their skills are just way too high to get for the kids to handle that. So I think if it's a hundred random people, it depends. I do think you're probably going to get one person who screams go for the eyes in that group, you know what I mean? Yeah. And then, and then you might have a chance. If we're allowed to build a team, I do like the human's chance.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Like if we're allowed to draft, even if we're allowed to draft 10. There's no answer. There's no answer. Like there's no conceivable answer for how you negate. What are you going to do? Like have 10 guys try and hold the arms. Right. Like a gorilla will.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I'm talking Mike Tomlin and the foremost primatologist and then my eight doctor I like Lawrence Taylor or whoever the closest person to not Taylor. I'm back See, I like the I think but I keep coming back to the thing. I was like you can't negate the strength I do think the strength it even in the I think I do think ten people will die for sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah Ultimately think ten people will die for sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Ultimately the the people will win I Do I do think that's you like you draw some everyone's pushing vibes right now. No one's giving me real What's wrong plays and then you you show them Brian give me an example of the play what happens? How are you gonna to like, you can't, you can't damage a gorilla's
Starting point is 01:03:05 Achilles tendon with your teeth. You know what I mean? I'm trying to think of everything. It's kind of like the first 10 are absolutely going to get fucked up. That 11th person goes through the eyes and then the 90 rush the fuck out of the gorilla. I think a big difference is going to be if it's in a ring where no, you can't pick up something that's close
Starting point is 01:03:25 by because like our access to tools or like our ability to use whatever is at hand as a tool was like the crucial thing that allowed us to like get out of the food chain. So like if, if it's a gorilla enclosure at a zoo or even, or like, you know, I feel like that is almost an advantage because then I do feel like you can like you have rocks, you know Okay, how about this? I see but that's the thing. Yeah, I get that But I'm I think that the thing that is in the appealing about this problem is how could the pure Just strength of the human body overcome a gorilla obviously the human is powerful
Starting point is 01:04:03 You've been watching these sports the human body overcome a gorilla. Obviously, the human spirit is powerful. That's you've been watching these sports. These Hope Corps videos have brought in in a place where he believes not I'm with him. Yeah, it's like over that, like, like track. You just hear this song playing. That's like the hope in all the Hope Corps. You're like, Oh man.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And then the hundred guys ran after the gorilla. It's just very graphic. It was just somebody poking an eye. I'm saying one, like access to one rock. I don't know. So there's this story I like about a guy named David versus a guy named Goliath. This is what I'm talking about. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:04:50 You're going to biblical inspiration? That's the original Sports Hope Corps. Yeah. Wow. Way to bring it back. Way to bring it back. All right. Brian, what a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist as always.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me Instagram, Brian with an I, underscore B-A-H-E, or TikTok, just Brian Bahe. Yeah, yeah. And is there a work of media or social media that you've been enjoying? Yeah. I believe I sent the link and it is exactly what I've been talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:31 It's, it's Steph Curry, you know, and he's talking about how he was like a tiny dude or whatever, not tiny, but you know, he was very underestimated, I guess, early on, because he's not like super tall. He wasn't super big. Yeah. And then it, and then there's a hard cut to him just like going to town Going to town making some perfect hardcore. Yeah, it's a It is a great clip and there is a great documentary called What's that documentary called that we we watched it for boosties a while back. I think it was just whatever the underrated.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Steph Curry documentary. Yeah, I think it was called underrated. But yeah, really. Like it's wild because players who you're like, man, they're like a real journeyman and nobody thought they were going to be good. But then you go back and watch their high school games and it's like, oh, they were the biggest, strongest, best athlete, best basketball player in their town by like a hundred percent. They were like so much better than everybody else.
Starting point is 01:06:34 But like Steph Curry was actually small for high school basketball. He like was a late bloomer. So he was like a tiny little guy. Like he looks tiny out there in his high school games. And it's just like throwing up threes with his whole body. And then he like has a late ish growth spurt. But we even saw it, like, I had kind of forgotten that when he first came to our attention in college basketball, he was like small for college basketball.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Like he was skinny and you know, just like a little dude. And I think he added like a couple inches and a bunch of muscle. Like once he got into the NBA, it is a wild story that like it's, you just have to like keep the thing that even struck me is like his dad couldn't even get him like nepo baby into Virginia tech. Like, you're like, that was your dream. They're like, we love you Dell, but this guy's a fucking loser. No, sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Off you go. Yeah. Yeah. They couldn't even get him into Virginia tech yet to go to Davidson. And, uh, just a, yeah, it is a, it is a Hopium story. It's a hope core. I highly, highly recommend it. Amazing miles.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Where can people find you as their work media you've been enjoying? Hope you on story. It's a hope core. I highly, highly recommend it. Amazing miles. Where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Man, yes. Find me everywhere at miles of gray. Basically, that's the editor of that symbol. If you like basketball like Brian does, come check out miles and check out Madbuzz. Some people say it's the hope core of basketball podcasts.
Starting point is 01:08:06 And if you are a hardcore 90 day fiance fan, then check me out on 420 day fiance. Let's see this post I like from blue skies from at Jake Grumbach. Top East guy at social posted. Your child will toil valiantly in the factory. It will be masculine. It will restore our national character. It will make America great again. Oh, my child, my child will run a lucrative right-wing podcast. Um, that, yep, yep, there's that. And then another part was just sort of, uh, Ben Collins, who, you
Starting point is 01:08:33 know, runs the onion now at Ben Collins, not be scattered. It's both social, uh, quote, tweeted this sort of like part of a JB Pritzker speech where he was talking about, like, you know, we need, we need actual like resistance against this government to get this right. social, a quote tweeted this part of JB Pritzker's speech where he was talking about we need actual resistance against this government to get something done. And that's where Sean Hannity's like, he's calling for a violent, this is a call to violence against MAGA. When he's just like, no, how about
Starting point is 01:08:57 people don't get pushed around anymore. But this one part that Tim, Ben Collins, his dismay name is Tim Onion. Yeah, Ben highlighted was, autistic kids and adults who are loving contributors to our society don't deserve to be stigmatized by a weird Nepo baby who once stashed a dead bear inside his car. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I was like, damn, fucking. Now go off and don't talk about your billions, JB. Don't talk about your billions. Just stay on message, baby. Stay on message. That's right. Let's see. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on blue sky at Jack Obey, the number one, uh, on mad boosties and, uh, let's see what was
Starting point is 01:09:36 happening Rob at okay, but still tweeted Kevin Bacon, John Ham. What's next? Tim pork. It's just a good question that needs to be answered. Uh, and then a lot of people were retweeting, uh, the tweet from at Ned's feed where during the NFL draft, it said the Cardinals pick is in and he said, we got a new Pope and Matthew Walther tweeted, this is the first NFL draft ever held during a papal interregnum.
Starting point is 01:10:05 First chance in history to make this joke. Who knows when it could be funny again. That was a good time. Wait, is there a new pope? Nope. Not yet. No, the Cardinals pick was in, but unfortunately they picked a wide receiver. They did not pick a new pope.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Oh, the messy one pulled out of the conclave. Oh, did he? Yeah. Giovanni Angelo Betu who were talking about who's the the embezzler going his way? No, he pulled out of the conclave. But yeah, May 7 is the date to start the conclave. So you better watch conclave by that's what starts. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was happening right now. Yeah, I said it was immediate. No, bro. I was working the publishing industry fucking just taking their sweet ass time You can find us on Twitter and blue sky at daily zeitgeist read the daily zeitgeist on Instagram
Starting point is 01:10:55 You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and you can find the footnote for no Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode We'll click off to that Steph Curry, Hope Core clip. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, this is a LA band called Coastal Kites, and the track is called Savalin' Stardust,
Starting point is 01:11:21 S-A-V-A-L-I-N, Stardust. It sounds, I don't know how else to describe it, it sounds like you found an old tape in your like a high eight camcorder tape in your garage and you dust it off and you find out your dad was a surfer, your mom was a surfer. Like it has like this grainy, psyche surf vibe to it
Starting point is 01:11:37 is what I imagine. So it just feels, look, as LA is finally starting to realize that this is a desert and the temperature warms up, I like music that helps me feel like that. So this is a Sabalin Stardust by Coastal Kites. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes.
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