The Daily Zeitgeist - How To Man? Gamestop's Got NFTs! 08.01.22

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

In episode 1299, Miles and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by comedian and the latest contributor to Clown Parade, Martin Urbano, to discuss… Shattered Man wants to prove he is MAN, Marvel M...ovies Are Hell To Work On According To VFX Artists, GameStop Is The Latest Nostalgic Brand To Pivot To NFTs (And It Isn’t Going Well) and more! Shattered Man wants to prove he is MAN Marvel Movies Are Hell To Work On, According To VFX Artists Natalie Portman Says ‘Thor: Love and Thunder’ Shot Its Most Beautiful Scene in a Best Buy Parking Lot VFX Artist Calls Marvel 'Horrible' To Work For as Taika Waititi Mocks CGI Hollywood has gone home. Why are so many visual effects artists going into work? VFX Unionization Effort Struggles to Gain Traction GameStop Is The Latest Nostalgic Brand To Pivot To NFTs (And It Isn’t Going Well) GameStop Boss Celebrates NFT Marketplace Days After Laying People Off GameStop’s NFT Marketplace Is Here And It Is Bleak GameStop 9/11 NFT Pulled After Selling Dozens Of Times No, RadioShack's Twitter wasn't hacked. It sells cryptocurrency now. LISTEN: I'm That Girl by BeyoncéSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
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Starting point is 00:01:57 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this very special edition of I don't even know how to start this show. Diet Coke. where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Monday, August 1st, 2022, which means it is World Lung Cancer Day, International Child Free Day, International Mahjong Day. If you play Mahjong, shout out to you and also Respect for Parents Day. Respect your parents, I guess, if you needed a day to tell you that. I will enjoy one of those holidays, whatever is most appropriate for me i just want to get to it my name is miles gray aka glizzo aka glizzy mcguire aka king glizzard and the glizzard glizzard uh because yes i'm i've been eating a lot of hot dogs the last week i just
Starting point is 00:02:58 went to a show at the greek i bought one of the you know like an alley dog like a straight you know la street dog i know inflation is hidden. That shit was $10. And I was like, oh. For a sidewalk hot dog? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think there was a tax because it was a white people concert. And I was like, look, I get it.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Okay, listen. Yeah, you got to get what you can out of the rich white people. And I looked the person in the eye. I was like, $10? And I was like looking. I was like looking at my arm like, $10? Are we sure? And there were too many white people around me.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And I was like, I can't fuck up their bag. I was like, yep, you know what? Keep the change. We out of here. Anyway, that's me. And who is that wonderful voice I hear across from me? That soothing, soothing voice I hear. Well, it's none other than my guest co-host.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Someone who's, look, the single tweet off of them saying nope gave me goosebumps and i am going to see that shit tomorrow somebody whose media takes i respect somebody whose sense of right of humor and humanity i admire it's none other than the wonderful writer host producer joelle monique aka purple lipstick don marvel avenger beyonce's number one i feel confident saying that now because i'm the 0.01 of listeners on spotify to beyonce according to last year's spotify stats so you know me and b is the holiday today we got new music at nine o'clock last night what's your sign i'm a libra oh that's no wonder you get along you we fucker we virgos you know virgo libras we connect yes of course
Starting point is 00:04:31 right there september 4th okay anyway so you're in the top 0.01 percent of billionaires that have donated to the gop is that what you said uh i have listened to beyonce you know we twisted my words out here getting new stories out in these streets. I don't like it, Miles. Come on now. Yeah. I've heard of this album, and I'm going to do more research.
Starting point is 00:04:52 As you told me, there is a new... Look, I know there's a new album. You're going to love it. It is like most of Beyonce's last two albums. Of course you did, because it was fabulous. I am that girl. Histories of like exploration of black history music, basically. Yeah, that teaser trailer where you saw her hand going up the wall.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I was like, oh shit. It's happening. It's happening. It's house music. It's club music. It's go-go. It's like every kind of house style music that's crafted by black folks who really imbued it. And then it's queer as hell for a straight lady
Starting point is 00:05:25 only out here for dick it's very gay and i love it love to see it love to see it um well that's good to have you here thank you so much for joining me uh because you make things so much easier and also nope it was good huh oh listen we i actually don't have time to get into it, but as I said, actual awe as I was watching it, it might be my number one favorite Jordan Peele movie, which is controversial. Not everyone's going to like it. I think that should also be said. It's not a guaranteed you'll enjoy it. But if you if you're you'll like it because it speaks to the hollywood to me it's a film about old hollywood interacting with this current phase of hollywood filmmakers and what
Starting point is 00:06:12 does that mean and how do they interact and what are they actually trying to do and it's so beautiful and so thought-provoking and everyone is so talented in it and then the main thing which you can't really talk about because you'll spoil the movie but the main thing is so talented in it and then the main thing which you can't really talk about because you'll spoil the movie but the main thing is so impressive and inventive and new you've never seen anything like it okay all right don't okay now i'm shooting off my body well let's introduce our guest for today please we have a fantastic hilarious stand-up comedian and writer somebody who you've seen on you know TV doing their stand-up thing. I saw a clip of Kimmel that basically made me laugh so hard.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I was like, who is this dude and why aren't we doing something with him? Well, guess what? Shout out to super producer Ana Hosnier. Because this person is also contributing to the latest, latest series on the Clown Parade feed on Big Money Players Network. The first episode just dropped last week. It's called Don Saldivar Presents The Weakest Loser. Okay, and you got to check this out. Please welcome none other than Martin Urbano!
Starting point is 00:07:17 Welcome, Martin. Thanks for having me. How's it going? Thanks for coming on, man. You got Don Saldivar Presents The Weakest Loser. So in your clown parade feed because this is like every you know last time we had greta title went on who was doing her stepmom character martin you're taking over this time and you're doing a lot of like game show stuff every every
Starting point is 00:07:36 episode is gonna be a different game show right yes how like what what where does where's your mind at where you go comedians are like you can do whatever you want. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to do a bunch of different game shows. Is this a very big thing for you? Game shows? All of the coolest comedians end up becoming game show hosts. You know, Howie
Starting point is 00:07:57 Mandel, Steve Harvey, Chris Hardwick, the goat, all goats, on an equal level. Yeah, goats. You know. Louis Anderson. On an equal level. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I like games. I like to play games. I like to make people happy. My stand-up is, you know, a lot of interaction. So I kind of figured, you know what? Let me just make a game show. Okay. And let me do a character of somebody who is canceled.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Right. Game shows and podcasts are not easy because you don't have any of the visuals that i think someone who has to craft a unique game show every week it is so challenging i tried to be like you can go look at pictures on instagram and the audience was like we don't want to do that girl we do not we want everything housed in just this podcast how did you go about like deciding which games you wanted to use and how you're going to implement them into an audio-based sound place? Well, also, I didn't quite understand the project when I initially had signed up for it. And so I made it very complicated and maybe a little too hard to produce. There was a lot of work that had to be done on it.
Starting point is 00:09:00 So I appreciate Anna and Olivia. Yeah, I don't know. I had been doing a Zoom game show. That was what I did during pandemic. Okay. Every week, I was just writing a bunch of new jokes and a bunch of new games, so I had a bunch to pick from to fill
Starting point is 00:09:15 four episodes since I had been doing it a week. Every week for a year. And Martin, you're in New York right now, right? You're a New York-based comedian? Yes. I love it here. Are you from out there you're in New York right now, right? You're a New York based comedian. Yes. Would you love it here? Are you from out there?
Starting point is 00:09:28 Not from Texas, but I have been here six years today, actually. Oh, wow. It's not, not actually today, but like in a couple of weeks, but doesn't it feel special when I say it's today?
Starting point is 00:09:39 It does. It feels serendipitous. Also, but it feels like a thing. Like you could tell people in New York, they wouldn't give a fuck. Like if you're like're like hey actually six years since i moved to the city huh they're like get the fuck out of my way everybody remembers actually when i moved here because i feel like i see that all the time in la like you'll go to like like griffith park or like
Starting point is 00:09:59 a park and somebody's having like a party and then you overhear them being like, you've been in LA for five years, party. And I'm like, what the fuck is this shit? Okay, cool. Listen, it takes some time to adjust, okay? You don't know because you've been here forever. I'm scum. I'm local scum. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:15 When you migrate here, you're like, oh, crap. How am I going to do anything here? It's so hard. I have no money. You got to pay to get in everywhere. Street festivals cost money here. It makes no sense. It's a wild space why that's why we snuck in everywhere you're like i survived 10 years it's like you know i want to compare it to like a prison sentence but sometimes you
Starting point is 00:10:34 like chalking it up like i did it another year i didn't leave i stayed it's the one it's the one prison where the prisoners try to like move up to the next nicer prison of like a next deal that they're in it's like and now i'm in this creative prison it's actually this prison is a lot better than the last one still a prison though uh anyway we're gonna get to know you better martin in a second but first let's tell everybody what we are talking about first we're gonna catch up with the shattered man from missouri senator josh holly, if you remember last week, everyone or a week, maybe two weeks ago, actually, when the JN6 committee showed that clip of him running for his life in the Capitol and everybody laughed at him. Well, he's got a response. OK, you thought he was not a man. Well, guess what? He will prove that to you in the most fucking weird way you could imagine. It's toxic. Also, we're going to check in with marvel movies and just vfx
Starting point is 00:11:26 in general we love the vfx we love that that makes the magic happen but is it hard to be one of these vfx artists on these films spoiler alert yes it is it's very fucked up uh then we're going to talk about gamestop and their recent pivot to selling NFTs. Like, even though it's like a wrap for NFTs and shit, but we'll look into that and some of the terrible business decisions being made there and plenty more. But first, Martin, we got to ask our guest, man, what's something from your search history? Oh, we're opening with that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:04 How to delete Google search history? Oh, we're opening with that. Okay. How to delete Google search history. No, let me pull it up. Can FBI see my search history right now? Oh, Young Sheldon. Okay. You killed Miles. You destroyed him now. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:12:24 We were not ready for Young Sheldon over here This is news to us Hearing somebody just say that shit like seriously Oh my god I was taking a sip of Coffee I'm sorry what Young Sheldon
Starting point is 00:12:38 What were you hoping to get information about When you typed in Young Sheldon To your Google search bar I got Young Sheldon viewership Young Sheldon ratings Okay Young Sheldon season 5 ratings And Young Sheldon Wikipedia
Starting point is 00:12:59 You fucking with Young Sheldon? I'm doing research Okay Are you trying to understand how it became such a success or trying to emulate that success i was just trying to see the level of success it had and it's quite successful how does i'm sorry dude you've really fucked me up by just saying young sheldon like earnestly and that i don't know why is there any other way to say it is young is young sheldon like a meme and am i am i did i have a weird response to that or in my mind i remember seeing in la they
Starting point is 00:13:32 were blasting every billboard and bus bench and shit with young sheldon i was like this is so stupid i don't give a fuck like y'all are just trying to turn back the clock on like your ip that's successful like what so in my mind i mind, I was like, man, fuck you. I don't know. That was always my feeling towards it. So when you said it, I was like. I think those billboards worked. It has five seasons out that the fifth one just wrapped in May and they got renewed for two more seasons.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Fuck. And five episodes before their finale, they reached syndication. They had over 100 episodes. Wow. Well, TNT, here they come. They're ready. Sometimes I wonder, Joelle, what the fuck are we doing?
Starting point is 00:14:15 We need to do this. I think we just need to make some white people feel good shit, get into syndication, and then just fucking funnel the money into radical you know radical political that seems to be the way to do it you got first appeal to white people and then disrupt their system right you know gain some power and the leverage of finance and then attack yeah we got to do like yeah jan 6 to like white media you know what i mean put the pieces in place and be like
Starting point is 00:14:43 surprise motherfucker they're like we have we sent our own slate of electors to green light this show Jan 6 to white media. Put the pieces in place and be like, surprise, motherfucker! We sent our own slate of electors to greenlight this show. You're like, what the fuck? Okay, okay. But Young Sheldon, it is a very... It ranks up there with Big Bang Theory? As far as what metric? In terms of
Starting point is 00:15:01 its significance. Because it's based off Big Bang Theory, right? Yeah. Which is huge. I think it had 10 seasons? I don't know. It's catching up. Unfortunately, I do not have Big Bang Theory in my search history, so I don't know
Starting point is 00:15:16 the numbers on that. That's all I know from that. That's his catchphrase. Is that Sheldon's catchphrase? I worked with somebody who had all this bazinga shit on their desk and i remember the first day i worked there i'm like what the fuck is this shit i'm like is this they're like they're they're really into big bang theory and i was like i i need to start doing jobs that i like to be around this shit
Starting point is 00:15:39 if it brings them joy yeah if it brings them. I'm happy to have young Sheldon now. Right. Exactly. All right. I'm not going to yuck there. Shut up, Bazinga. Okay. All day.
Starting point is 00:15:50 What's something you think is underrated, Martin? Underrated is a good question. You did tell me to have that prepared. And that's the one part I left blank. Because I just kind of think everything that I like people, like it's good. Right. Everybody knows the things I like. Yeah. I can't name a single thing that I like people like it's good right everybody knows the things I like quality yeah I can't name a single thing that I think is good that people don't also think is good it's
Starting point is 00:16:11 just my taste is just at that perfect level where everything is rated perfectly that I like I've triangulated culture and I'm just right there dead center of it I just nailed it I'm a cultural centrist like yeah I'm like right up there right down the middle of everything do y'all ever feel like you liked a thing that you thought was niche like years before and then now it's like the most popping thing ever oh yeah i discovered anime okay you feel like that about anime that's fair i really enjoy this yuyu haka show i can't believe nobody's ever heard of it wild Wild. Totally unique to just me and my personality. I'm so creative.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah, that shit was hitting before I was born. People really enjoyed it. It had major success. That's why I got to hear it in English. Right, right, right. Yeah, definitely. There are times I feel like that about music. When I was like, man, I was fucking with this music.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Not even like an artist, but like a genre. You can kind of watch a genre and be like like this was niche a second ago and now it's like foundational to like all music now that's like i think that really means you're just the first person in your friendship circle to point it out you know i just want to be like oh i like this and i introduce all my friends to it so i've become like the i don't want to say like a hub but you know you You're amazing. You're a tastemaker. Yes, exactly. Exactly. So Amaran, what about you? You're ahead of the trends, man. What
Starting point is 00:17:31 trends were you getting ahead of? Actually, I'm quite behind on trends. I don't keep up with things. You're catching it right at the right time. I may be not the best guest to have on this where we talk about topical, you know, zeitgeisty stuff. I'm not great at that. But I did just get into a song called Ignition Remix. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Oh, man. Yeah. I'll send you a couple links after this. To what? You can read up on the fate of that song. It's the reason we're not hearing it that much these days. I started hearing it a lot because it's the number one thing I've listened to on Spotify. I don't listen to too much music.
Starting point is 00:18:19 If you look at my playlist, it's all throwback songs from early 2000s. Some 41 and Teenage Dirtbag, like that kind of stuff. Sure, sure. So my music tastes, I don't listen to much music. Yeah. So when somebody is being defended by people after they've done those things, I'm like, they must have some good stuff. I should check it out. You're like, they can't put the art down, huh?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah, that's how good it is these people are defending him who knows uh what's something anyway sorry about that huh what's something you think is overrated martin young sheldon that's why i was doing the research i was trying to look at the numbers i didn't know you're gonna ask the search history first yeah what's up with young sheldon man you know, it's not for me. Yeah. It's not for me, but a lot of people watch it. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I got the numbers pulled up right here. All right. So the season finale got 7 million viewers. I mean, in this day and age, 7 million. That is... Wow. That is... You know, they deserve it.
Starting point is 00:19:22 76% on Rotten Tomatoes and five seasons with two more on the way. I mean, that means people love it. It's highly rated. But I personally, it's not for me. Yeah. Are you, Joel, you ever seen Young Sheldon? No, I have not. In the Big Bang universe at all?
Starting point is 00:19:38 I watched two episodes of Big Bang and I said, oh, it's not for me. It hits like all the other cbs you know two and a half men it's just the comedies again for me not hitting and then i just don't care about these characters or their journeys catch me over on hbo that's right wait so what what's the show you do like though martin the rehearsal the what oh the rehearsal yeah that's good i mean it's on hbl yeah on hbl it's sort of the young sheldon of hbl max you might wake up upright on miracle status after watching it you never know because i'm on episode all right oh yeah yes dude i just love again just the repetition of somebody who has like this one thing that happened to them and they say it over and over, which is when I crashed my Scion TC going 100 miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I have a friend who was like, yeah, you know, when I was on that cruise ship and I almost fell off. And it's like, you say that three times a week, apropos of nothing. But I get it. I also like his numbers thing. It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. He just points out random numbers.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Oh, yeah. Look, 22, 88. Oh, yeah. Look, 2288. Oh, look, Joel, you got it. I'm very curious to see what your take is on it. If it's deeply uncomfortable, you think it's hilarious or you can't believe someone put this much thought into making a TV show. Did you watch Nathan for you? I did. No.
Starting point is 00:21:01 OK. OK. I miss a lot of the, like, I didn't watch too much Curb Your Enthusiasm. A lot of stuff like Santa Clause are like, this is it. I watched, what's the show with the lady? Not the return. Y'all know. Two Women Comedy
Starting point is 00:21:15 Writers. Hacks. That thing. Yeah. I watched season one. I like that a lot. I would check out season two, plan two. Yeah. You know me. I'm watching the Marvel and the fantasy and the sci-fi. Yeah, yeah. You get to it when you get to it. I'm not trying to be on this planet when I'm watching things.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Make me somewhere else, please. You're like, hold on. This is Earth-based content? Fuck that. Pass. Pass. Did you watch Harley Quinn? New season just started.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I fucking love Harley Quinn. Harley Quinn's awesome. She is. Also on HBO. See? There we go. Okay. Now.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I'm excited to watch it. Now, what if Young Sheldon was on Harley Quinn? Would you's awesome. Yes. Also on HBO. See, there we go. Okay, now. I'm excited to watch it. Now, what if Young Sheldon was on Harley Quinn? Would you be fucking with it then? That would be multiverse stuff. And you know I'm excited about multiverse stuff. Do it, you cowards. The multiverse of madness. Young Sheldon comes out.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I want Young Sheldon to appear on Rap Shit just in the middle of Miami. Trying to figure it out. They're like, who's that little boy in the audience? Turn it up. Wow, he bought three bottles of Deucey tonight. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk some news right after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer
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Starting point is 00:26:41 You got white men that are angry that they're losing status. So they double down on xenophobia racism they see themselves as less potent gender equality as an existential threat so we get even more severe laws that restrict people's body autonomy so many conservatives are living in this like fucked up hell world where men are at risk of being wiped off the face of the earth because someone used the word patriarchy in front like around them uh which feels like just the general vibes like what so i'm the fucking bad guy now like oh and you're like what yo chill the fuck out and also yes but we see it in like i brought up the fake ass tough guy persona of like ted cruz when he wants to act like a real badass when he is a shook one with a like a noodle spine
Starting point is 00:27:25 and we definitely saw it a couple weeks ago with senator josh hawley so for those that don't recall uh josh hawley's a senator from missouri he on january 6th there's a very famous picture of him gassing up the rioters he's like giving them like the the power fist like yeah y'all gonna fucking fuck shit up in the Capitol. Do your thing. Take back your country. And then when shit got so dire in the actual Capitol, he fucking ran away for his life like some non-patriot man. What the fuck was that, Josh?
Starting point is 00:28:00 So I just to set the table, I just want to like before we get into his response about the January 6th stuff, I just want people to understand where Josh Hawley comes from, like as a guy, like as an American politician. He did not step out of an 80s movie. He's not the bully grown up and he's the villain and it's actually the victim of the bully who like became the bully after years like god it was you noodle the whole time yeah so i just want to play this clip of him saying this out loud at a conference of other like-minded creeps and just you know listen to this this is his
Starting point is 00:28:44 explanation as to why i'm just masculinity in america is going down the effing drain we'd be surprised that after years of being told that they are the problem that their manhood is the problem more and more men are withdrawing into the enclave of idleness and pornography and video games. I found the comment by one young man to a Wall Street Journal reporter particularly evocative. Particularly. And particularly heartbreaking. Particularly.
Starting point is 00:29:15 He said, I'm sort of waiting for a light to come on so I can figure out what to do next. That sounds like someone who's just been crushed by capitalism uh but sure that does sound that that does sound bad man i'm i'm i am pissed right now he is stealing all of my material that's straight from my stand-up the idoless of manhood right now pornography video games so you know he's like one of these guys who's constantly like banging the drum be like yo the left is on a campaign to make men less masculine and diminish their role in family life in order to bring about the end of the white family which is where all these roads, which is all just off the tree of like anti-Semitic tropes about like who's really trying to destroy the American family kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:30:26 was probably not going to react well to a room full of people laughing their asses off at a clip of him running like a scared shook one uh and that's what happened during the january 6 commission when they played the footage of him like on a security camera like running like away from the like rotunda to be like oh fuck get me out of here and you could hear the whole audience be like they're like that's the guy earlier who was so rah-rah about the fucking insurrection. Well, he has now combined the absurdity of that earlier sort of speech that I played for you. And he is now melding that with his anger at the people for seeing how scared he was to announce that he is a man, actually, just so you know. So much so, in fact, that he is writing a book on manliness. And I don't know how much of a better defense you can come up with than saying,
Starting point is 00:31:14 I'm literally writing the book on manliness. So back the fuck up. What's it called? Do you know? Get ready, Martin. What would you call it? I mean, I'm guessing if you were doing this as a very transparent play to be like, I,
Starting point is 00:31:27 I felt emasculated in this clip. Now I'm going to double down by saying I'm writing the book on masculinity. What would you title it? 12 rules for living your life. That feels about right. Was that Jordan Peterson book? Wasn't it that? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah. Right. Some dumb shit like that. Wait, what did you say, Joelle? I said no vaginas, how to be a man. No, right, exactly. Well, both were close. It's called Manhood, the Masculine Virtues Americans Need.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Josh, shut the fuck up. Oh, my God. It's inspired by... Oh, my God. Hold on, Joelle. Let me tell you, it's inspired by some really cool shit, though, too. This is from, I think, the Kansasansas city the local paper saying quote the book appears to be a more in-depth version of the speech which i told i played an extract from in which holly will draw from greek
Starting point is 00:32:15 and roman philosophers jesus and his political icon teddy roosevelt he'll focus on traits he defines as masculine responsibility bravery fidelity and leadership he just hopped on 4chan he was like okay so they're quoting some greeks and romans great teddy rosenvelt carried a gun uh none of that conservation shit we're not gonna talk about none of that but the gun part he was in the army dope or the navy so that'll be perfect and uh okay cool yeah bravery this sounds like the whatever they put like well you know in high school you get like a little it's like a school quote and then it'll be like i don't know oh yes responsibility like these are our core value beliefs like you sound yeah like a child i also think if you have to write a book on how to be masculine,
Starting point is 00:33:07 I don't know, man. I don't know. You sounded insecure in the daylight. We got to read the book, to be fair, before we can... I don't think so. I think so. I mean, read the book in its entirety at least twice, just so that we can really know. Have we thought about
Starting point is 00:33:22 this? I think, like, you know, as men, we should think about this like he said you should never sit down to pee what yeah okay that's a great rule i think that's cool i mean i don't know that i feel like that's the kind of shit that's going to be in his book it's like sitting down to pee is a slippery slope to you being in like a reprogramming camp to pick your new gender which is how all of these fucking people think. But just so you guys know, because just when you thought it couldn't get fucking weirder. No.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Because look, the book is about compensating for not being man enough, whatever the fuck he even thinks a man is. He's going to be doing some press and some promotion that he tied to the announcement of this book being released. Prior to the release, he will be one of the keynote speakers at the stronger men's conference bitch what well i'm gonna tell you what because i got
Starting point is 00:34:14 i got i got the motherfucking trailer for the stronger men's conference 2023 iteration i'm just gonna start a couple seconds in just so you can see. Okay. Tell me if you can make sense of what this fucking conference is when I play you the fucking trailer for it. I got my tickets early bird special actually. Oh, but before even knowing Josh Hawley was even announced? Yeah, they're going to be sold out for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I mean, off the strength of 2022s. I mean, that was a memorable one. This is just a part of the trailer. Incredible. Space men. Immediately incredible. All right. Stock footage.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Men. Cowboys. Monster truck. Fire. Some concerts. Phallic space. This is so manly. I like to call them penis fires. U.S. Senator.
Starting point is 00:35:00 All these people I never heard of. A guy swinging a flaming log. A guy riding a bull. Someone. No weapon formed against you will prosper. Oh, shit. Oh, they got the Jesus hands up. They're really crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Fight and fight to win. Okay. To win what? You know, the fucking race war. They don't got to tell you out loud what the fuck they're talking about we got to fight to win the race war against the communists or whatever the fuck they're talking about did did you see the imagery in this so for people i know we were just ranting over it what did we see we saw a bunch of space dicks being launched into there i don't know why there was repeated rocket launch
Starting point is 00:35:42 footage but i get it uh because there's a space race and we like elon musk that was trending for a while so space okay uh boxing is the manliest of sports surprisingly no football or basketball shots like boxing is essentially the only what i'm gonna call a sport uh you also saw some monster trucks. Yep. A very strong man spinning some fire. A flaming log. It looked like a telephone pole. It was not a small, it was not a baton, y'all.
Starting point is 00:36:12 It was very much a log. Because this is a man. Yes, because he's a man, right. Because man. Not dinky, bigger, better. We get it. Pretty much what you might see your dad flip through on a Sunday when he's tired.
Starting point is 00:36:24 If you just rapid fire flipping through channels, are like like his favorite channels you know you have that setting on your satellite just or whatever right right right those are the images you would see like tv yeah exactly it was very spike tv but it was everything spike tv stood for but condensed into like a 40 second montage with stock footage so there will be monster trucks no yeah i don't know can't think of a manlier event than that or people who couldn't know less what who they are than if they have to go to something like that uh pretty tragic i just josh howley is one of those people who can't ever like you only ever see him yelling directly to the camera or talking directly to his audience because if he had to do any kind of debate, he would crumple immediately, as we saw recently in the congressional, like, discussions on abortion where he was just going after this professor. And she was like, okay, but, like, let's take a step back.
Starting point is 00:37:22 What did you actually say and what do you actually believe? Oh, so that's violent that i'm denying the existence are you denying their existence sir is that you can a man get pregnant no okay well then he's like i don't know a man might i'm going to the stronger men's conference in a few months and there may be a different speaker they're showing that men can do anything so elated at men wanting to be able to be like listen now we are the creators of life be being able to like grow develop and then push out a baby is the most badass thing a woman can do and i'm shocked that men aren't like fuck it and now we can do it too clearly we're the superior like sex right yeah well i'm sure they i'm sure they'd want something like that
Starting point is 00:38:07 but yeah we'll see at the stronger men's conference what comes of that but i know the harlem globe trotters that may have performed at a previous one it's it's really i think it's probably this intersection of like christian like evangelical stuff and like sort of like a convention to try and court more young people into being fascists i want to apologize to the hotel staff in advance this can't be a pretty weekend for you now you see a lot of weird conferences come and go but uh this is going to be really hell for the ladies i hope the men step up and really you know y'all clean the bedrooms and stuff this week or something give these women some time that's not what i learned at the stronger men's conference slippery slope actually so
Starting point is 00:38:49 and i heard at the strongest men conference uh kevin feige is gonna release more marvel movies he's gonna unveil phase 69 of the fucking they love captain america so you know yeah except the actor that plays i don't think chris loves them but they they love them some cat yeah all right well actually speaking of marvel uh i just want to talk just quickly because we also like to talk about how hard it is you know to be a working person in america and even when you're making vfx for blockbuster films that make literally billions of dollars sometimes it's hard to even get a living wage there's a recent quote from natalie portman where she was talking about like one of her favorite scenes in thor love and thunder
Starting point is 00:39:31 was just literally shot in a best buy parking lot against like a blue screen or green screen or you know whatever it's the same thing she said there's quote one scene that's one of the most visually beautiful scenes i've seen on film and we shot it we shot it in a real life Best Buy parking lot. It's so wild to be on the size of a movie. And we were literally in a parking lot with a blue screen doing this really dramatic thing. It looks so stunning on film. But every time I see it, I'm like, that's a Best Buy parking lot. Which I think speaks to the amount of work that visual effects artists have to do from her saying,
Starting point is 00:40:04 it's one of the most visually stunning scenes, but we just did the work of being in a Best Buy parking lot. The VFX teams have to do the work of then making the Best Buy parking lot one of the most visually stunning scenes they've ever seen, which is, I think, a very valid point. And then recently, people were taking shots at some of the VFX in the She-Hulk trailer. I mean, I looked at it. It didn't seem like the most effects-heavy trailer, but I don't know what exactly the criticisms were. Well, she is entirely VFX because Tatiana Maslany is a very tiny person. Oh, right, to make her that big.
Starting point is 00:40:39 She transforms into a 6'7", all green. I don't think they did any kind of like body paint for them she's a completely cg character so oh a lot of people are they're not even like editing her like live face and then just like giving it a green they're doing a digital recording of her face so the thing with like there they put the dots on the face and they're they're mapping the movement in her face but no she is not getting any kind of visual effects makeup or anything like that so it's 100 the character i was over here this is my old ass being like this shit doesn't look that bad about everybody and in my mind i'm like yeah she could be six seven lifting that dude
Starting point is 00:41:18 to the bed okay yeah it looks better it looks better every time we get a new trailer but uh definitely up front you can tell it was is rough in the same way that if you saw black panther when it originally hit theater cgi was not finished yet you're seeing like a a mostly completed situation but that's kind of what happens i mean visual effects and cg are kind of the last not the last step you usually have audio is the final step in a mix when you're editing a movie but visual effects come pretty close to the end it's a post-production practice and so a lot of times they're under the gun for you know the time the studio said the movie would hit the theaters and on top of that it is an ass load of work if you've seen a marvel movie they're
Starting point is 00:42:02 shrinking people they're blowing them up they're creating entirely new planets like a lot of their rooms and spaces are not practical although they're sort of starting to figure out ways to smooth that out a little bit so they have the new um like a 360 room that's all screens on ceiling the ground all around and so you can shoot in there and kind of do a lot of previous work yeah it looks real dope they're also building some practical sets they built a street in new york for their back lot so now they're doing you know most marvel movies take place in new york the majority have at least some scenes in new york so they have four blocks of new york street that they can dress and design for different sets that we'll probably see in the future this will help and not having to a go to location or b try to design a lot of this stuff
Starting point is 00:42:49 in a computer but it's definitely been brutal and especially if you follow any of these visual effects artists I mean working 18 hour days or sometimes longer not being paid is again not new for Disney or Marvel we've seen it you, even the original writers who created this character. I think if a character you created shows up in a movie, you get like a $5,000 check. Right. Which, you know, if you're a regular person, you're like, sweet, I love $5,000 for work I did 20 years ago. But if you, you know, create that character out of whole cloths, and especially if your stories are what made them successful, and then they're taking parts of that story and then building a billion dollar franchise out of it it's super frustrating because you're not consulted about how that character appears
Starting point is 00:43:33 you're not consulted about you know if or when they appear whom they appear next to right they often change and articulate the story a little bit differently so it's just yeah it's it's frustrating and the thing is you know we're seeing it with like hulk as well and with thor too i know there was a lot of controversy when tessa and taika were on and they kind of like gently ribbed at some of the cgi and thor not being 100 completed and you know it set people off because the people that do this work you know they're very dedicated they are everyone who works on a film wants it to look as best they want to do their best job and so you know when you're top of the line kind of poking fun at bottom of the
Starting point is 00:44:14 line people that can be irritating for sure and this is like against the backdrop too like with like you're saying a lot of vfx artists are on the internet talking very directly about like their experiences working and saying that they're, you know, they would describe the relationship with Marvel as like toxic and not being paid the equivalent to the amount of work they put in, which is just in general. I think in the world right now, it's the same story, like no matter what the industry is. industry is they talked about how like on thor they were asking for like complete mini sequences of like nearly fleshed out like vfx sequences two to three weeks before they actually needed to deliver it so it's like that's that doesn't actually that makes the deadline a lot sooner based on the amount of work that has to be done one person talked about how like you know regularly they'll see other like vfx artists just like melt down like because they're so stressed
Starting point is 00:45:05 whether that's like throwing computer monitors or like just just like losing their shit like marriage is becoming strained and the problem is like a lot of industries where people's labor gets exploited like that the vfx artists aren't unionized and there was a report in the independent that said under half of the vf workforce in London is actually unionized. And you can kind of see how studios get around all this stuff, like cutting corners to save money, where a lot of the costumes now are made in post, like on the computer. on a computer to work just longer hours to make the suit look how it needs to rather than to go to the unionized costumers and be like can you tweak this this like real garments that you're creating to look a certain way so it's all very murky uh and exploitative at the end of the day and this isn't just you know this isn't just necessarily a marvel thing this is like across
Starting point is 00:46:02 the board like people especially during the pandemic there are people who had to go you know they didn't they didn't want a lot of vfx artists to work from home because they're like they're gonna leak shit so they need to come inside to this closed off office and work together during the pandemic to make sure we don't leak anything and i know people who've worked post in the pandemic and they were getting sick all the time because there's no like if you go to like any place that does like post like a post house, they're dark windowless spaces with not very good airflow. So it's a very tough environment for sure. Do you think like people talking about it now, it's going to change things like sausage party, like have something to it. Like the animators, like we're unhappy with Sony. And did that change anything after people talked about that?
Starting point is 00:46:52 I think like anything, right. It's, it'll get, it's like everything. There'll be the people and activists or people who are like the most vocal about it. It probably has like this lifespan of like, it gets a few headlines and then it dies. And it's like, OK, good. No one's talking about it. But I think now as I don't know, I think in this era, too, when you see more people are open to the idea of unionizing, I you'd think that this could change things. But knowing like, you know, certain companies like studios like Disney, they're notorious for being cheap. Like that's just like from the people that work for them to like journalists that have done like junkets with them they're like jesus like i had to bring my own chair to this press conference kind of shit um to answer your question
Starting point is 00:47:35 i don't think things are getting better man yeah i don't have i don't know how any of it works but you know i know what society we live in sure right no and i think that's at the end of the day like it's either going to be because like when you even the business of getting these jobs is like vfx studios are just undercutting each other to get the gig they'll be like oh yeah how much work do you have like oh yeah we'll do it like we'll do it for this much and then another vfx because they want the gig and the credit they'll be like oh we can do it for a fucking 10 20 less than that and all of that ends up coming. Like all of that extra stress ends up just funneling down to the person at
Starting point is 00:48:10 the VFX artist level. Who's now being like, Oh yeah, dude, you're getting 30% less than you normally would. And you also need to do 40% more work in 20% of the time. That's a lot of math. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:23 that sucks. Yeah. To put it lightly that sucks okay good okay that's just i'm gonna make sure martin your take is you're okay good i'm gonna go out on the ledge here and say not so good okay good okay good he's he's always he always manages to find the right take i was just kind of quietly listening on this because I enjoy Marvel movies, but I don't know anything about VFX. As someone who watches Marvel movies, are you someone who is particularly fixated on the visual effects? Can you kind of tell if shit looks janky? I have noticed...
Starting point is 00:49:02 Did you watch Spider-Man? The new Spider-Man? Yeah. I felt like a lot of that... I couldn't really see what was going on. I felt like a... You said like an old person. You thought it was fine.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I felt like an old person. I'm like, what's happening on the screen? It's too busy for me. I can't really see. But I don't want to say anything like that because I don't want... It's not the VFX people's fault. It's Marvel's fault.
Starting point is 00:49:23 No, right, right, right. Well, and I think... But this larger issue, right? Because it is something that people talk about. It's like not the vfx people's fault it's no right right right well and i think but this larger issue right because it is something that people talk about it's like the vfx have been like fucking steadily degrading like in the films but the real thing is like it coincides with like the terrible business practices of like vfx studios and the film studios to compensate them and the demands that are put on them which i think is like sort of ultimately what i think but many vfx artists are trying to get people to understand it's like dude stop fucking coming at us like being like yo this shit looks like shrek six or whatever it's like how about it i'm barely making ends meet and i'm under terrible deadlines but all y'all are
Starting point is 00:50:00 seeing is the finished product without any consideration for the humans behind it so yeah and they can be kind of sexist too like the hulk has always had some issues just with like general overall design and maybe not looking polished and hasn't received like a tenth of the criticism that she hulk has right and i think a lot of that is that she's not the sexy giant green woman i wanted her to be why or you Or, you know, the dimensions are whatever. Like, just in the same way that women's bodies are overly critiqued, I think that some of that has plastered over to here as well. I think for the most part, the CGI is passable. I don't think Disney's ever released anything that isn't passable. But I also think that there has got to be a better way for them to support these folks coming up the other thing too is you start
Starting point is 00:50:45 you're seeing a an interesting turn in marvel where they're hiring younger and younger and less experienced directors occasionally they'll get like a legacy director like sam raimi for the new spider-man doctor strange yes oh doctor yeah yeah but i also think that that's another way of them exercising control and bringing down costs. You're going to get paid for doing a Disney Marvel film because it's Disney Marvel and there's some prestige to that. But there's also, you know, oh, I really want it's a huge step for my career and I'll take a little less money because exposure still even at that level, it seems insane. But I promise you it's true. but I promise you it's true.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I think I talked about it on this show before, but I once was talking to a writer for Disney who wrote them a very successful animated film, wanted to come back and do another, and the offer was less the second time around. And they were like, yo, that doesn't make any sense. We had success off of our first one. Money goes up, or at the very least stays the same. And they were like, but you're working for Disney.
Starting point is 00:51:43 It's such a pleasure. She was like, the person she was talking to she asked you know would you take less money for the current job you're doing they're like absolutely because i'm working for disney and i love it oh my goodness no get out get out i mean i think the thing with you know there's also i mean there's a very similar pipeline where they take like young directors who like are do well at festivals. And then you'll see these people like their first films, like a fucking tentpole blockbuster. Yeah. The whole point, too, is it's easier for the studios to scapegoat those directors and treat them as disposable and be like, well, you can never work with them again. They can take all of your notes because they don't want to be seen as difficult they're nervous and scared
Starting point is 00:52:26 about you know is it gonna be good so yeah it's uh it's a it's you know it's the same industry it's always been we're trying to get a little more transparency here and there yeah but be aware children as you enter it can be volatile yeah all right Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about the real shit, which is NFTs of like a blunt or something that GameStop is selling. I don't know. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:57:04 Thoughts? And we're back. NFTs. Thoughts? Bill Gates said he's not buying them, so neither am I. He's like, I don't. There's no actual value in this property. So Pat, he's not doing NFTs and he's not doing cryptocurrency. I invested a little money in cryptocurrency just for funsies to see what would happen. It was horrifying.
Starting point is 00:57:29 And then it bounced back a little bit and it was horrifying again. I'm going to just there it's fine is it up but i can't get into this nft i can't understand purchasing art i can't physically own you can though own a piece of the blockchain that does contain a link to a different server where the image is hosted. Which is pretty cool. Exactly. You have the receipt for a piece of art. Someone was on fucking Twitter being like, people don't understand this whole concept. What you have is the receipt for something. So even if that vanishes, you will always be holding the proof that it exists and
Starting point is 00:58:06 people are like okay so what if i just keep eating hamburgers but i got a receipt and i go to mcdonald's and be like i got the receipt where's my hamburger and people like yeah this is a very odd uh metaphor that this person is well and what we've seen is that they're not secure i mean seth green had one stolen, lost an entire show he had based around. That's millions of dollars and lots of people's jobs. And it's funny because it's like... People lost jobs! I mean, listen, it's true, though. Like, there was an
Starting point is 00:58:34 entire company, like, this was going to be their next show launch. They had written many scripts. There were lots of actors involved. Like, it was going to be an actual project. And while, you know, I know we don't want to empathize too much with, with like millionaire guy who's created all the things he wants to create. And is that, but at the same time, it's like, I just think that it's like a valid warning to everyone who's like, no, I own this, that it, it really, truly holds value. Also, it's imaginary. Zoom out, right? Zoom out. Because NFTs are just part of the crypto scam to get people to buy crypto, right?
Starting point is 00:59:09 Because the people who are the OG holders of a lot of crypto that is worth a lot of money, they need more stooges to come into the market and create liquidity for them so they can cash out their crypto. And when that sort of turn started to slow down, they're like, what if we started selling NFTs to get people to normalize crypto use? And now people were buying GIFs and JPEGs and shit like that. There was an NFT convention here in New York. Oh, you went to NFT
Starting point is 00:59:38 or NY or whatever the fuck that was? Whatever it was called. I just happened to end up at multiple after parties for NFT stuff. And I will say, had the time of my life. They're spending money. Those NFT bros know how to party. Did you go to the one that Snoop was at or Eminem?
Starting point is 00:59:58 Neither. I don't think I would be. I snuck in, basically. Oh, I love that one should. Much like NFTs themselves, the convention was not Yeah. Oh, I love that. As one should that much, much like NFTs themselves, the convention was not secure. Right? Exactly. Any fuck,
Starting point is 01:00:10 any fucking body could have came in and purported themselves to be the leader of the movement. But GameStop, right? That about two years ago is when they had the huge game stonk boom on Reddit. And everyone's like, fucking,
Starting point is 01:00:22 we're going to the fucking to the moon, bro. Got these diamond hands and now fucking gamestop two weeks ago two weeks ago gamestop has basically said we're getting into the nft business we're also an nft marketplace we've watched the crypto market crash like fucking twice significantly less like like once a month since like may it's just been like meltdown meltdown meltdown we've seen all these crypto exchanges go down we've seen like different coins go down and declare bankruptcy and i'm believing a lot of bag holders
Starting point is 01:00:57 so two weeks ago they're like okay this is the time to strike so this is just wild because when you look just sort of overall the health of the the game stop game stop business they laid off like over 160 people recently so you're just like okay so things are going well or not well but you know luckily now rather than going into a game stop and seeing like 4 000 used copies of grand theft auto 5 on play 4, you can now buy NFTs from them, which are listed at amounts that I don't know who the fuck is affording. One gift that they're selling is listed at over $400,000. And then there's this other one. What about used?
Starting point is 01:01:37 What about used? What price? I know, right? Could you imagine that they do that shit? Like eventually there's a rack of like used NFTs, even though, I mean, how can art, is this something that cannot be new or used? Just merely changed.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Just pre-owned. Yeah, yeah. Pre-owned. That'd be the funniest business to sell is you have a place called pre-owned NFTs, but you just print out a bunch of clip art and be like, dude, you want this one? Three bucks, dude.
Starting point is 01:02:06 This is yours, man. This is ape number 3336. It's the one that looks the most Nazi-like. But there is this one picture right now called Rolly Z. And it's like a blunt. It's a picture of a weird cartoon blunt. Let's be real, too. A bad
Starting point is 01:02:22 picture. Yo, the worst. Objectively bad. I don't even know if it's a blunt or a match stick but the end that doesn't have the match head on it like the bottom of a match stick but this is selling for it's listed for over five million dollars whoa five million dollars and it's not tangible you can't touch it i will get into this stuff when we can upload our consciousness to the matrix until such a time as that exists again i say what is the point please make better art the thing too is i know there are nft artists out there making really great art that just it like it looks good on your computer screen which is the only place
Starting point is 01:03:05 you ever see it i guess you could have it professionally printed if you wanted to which is a hard because they they the people like with the crypto schemes they did a good job of rank like wrangling in a lot of actual artists to get them to preach this new idea of ownership when it's all very it's it's like vaporware you know like there's not i can't find one computer scientist that's like worth a fuck who's actually expressed an opinion that's positive towards crypto they're like nothing these fools are saying actually even makes sense to people to me a computer scientist who like created created the foundation for like the language they're even using right now it's all bullshit so it's wait we have to go back to talking a
Starting point is 01:03:43 little bit about this picture because i'm noticing new things the longer I look at it. First of all, it's entitled Rollies. R-O-L-L-I-E, capital Z, no spaces. Rollies, number 309, which I guess is maybe the lot number. It has a, what you might call a French or porn mustache on it. Yeah. Two wild bugged out eyes like it's on meth and not marijuana. It's a little confusing.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Teeth at a diagonal, which is what's really throwing me. I don't know. As a weed smoker myself, I don't know what I'm supposed to be getting from this piece of art. It doesn't inspire me smoking. There's no smoke coming out of the top of this thing its head is not lit uh it's a thin joint i'll say too that's not even a fatty it's not a big one no uh i would also say it's too perfectly straight up and down uh you know
Starting point is 01:04:38 what i mean like it's not there's no lumps in it like you know how are you rolling it is this like in a cigarette machine here it's machine rolled and therefore has no soul i i can't unsee this i don't know if i'm high or something but it looks like steve harvey to me it looks like steve harvey to me i don't know what else i'm looking at steve harvey as a cartoon blunt because he's got the mustache and now that he's rocking his bald head yeah all kind of and he got rid of the wig you know he's got the mustache and now that he's rocking his bald head yeah all kind of and he got rid of the wig you know he's looking good okay this has got to be a prank though right like this this is the last desperate grasp there are low energy scams because there are some people who are still because there are many people still like there's a car in my neighborhood
Starting point is 01:05:22 that is emblazoned with bitcoin stickers and like different cryptos like logos and it's like saying contact me about like securing your like fortune with crypto like and this person just drives around constantly and i'm like oh shit like you a bag holder that's you're not i can only imagine like how chaotic shit is right now when all the like when you're like yeah i take crypto for stuff and it's worth like fuck all right now it's all very it's like all i mean it is a prank essentially because at the end of the day you're gonna be like yeah i own this thing and what you own is a link to a like an image hosted on a different server where the person who actually owns the server where your image is at they could change
Starting point is 01:06:02 the picture and you don't and now you own some other shit. I mean, it's that fucking simple. Oh, no. Could you imagine? That's the worst time to get a dick pic. Just be like, no! I paid $5,000 for this. $5 million to look at this bad picture of a joint.
Starting point is 01:06:22 That everyone has access to look at. We're looking at it right now and we're like fuck this thing and someone's like well what's oddly enough is before they was listed for five million someone bought it for 30 bucks and they went and turned around and said hey i want to sell this thing for fucking five million like the time has come and gone y'all like you're you're you're more likely to make your 30 bucks back by selling 16 used copies of Grand Theft Auto V on PlayStation 4. Like, let's be fucking real here. But even then, like a lot of people are looking at
Starting point is 01:06:51 just like even at like NFT marketplace sort of standards, the GameStop site is absolutely terrible. And on top of it, they're selling like the most fucked up shit. There's a picture of a piece they called The Falling Man, which looked like an astronaut, like descending to Earth.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And it was like these geometric lines behind it. But some people were like, hold on. That looks like the famous photograph of the guy who was falling from the World Trade Center on 9-11. No, it's not! And it was that. No! They just drew a space costume on this picture
Starting point is 01:07:21 and were like, that's an NFT called Falling Man. And you're like that's the picture of the guy on a 9-11 wow but it's nft though so that's that's how this website is operating right now i have zero words i had zero what were you thinking oh my god no i mean look they're desperate look how many crypto things are going down i'm telling you staples is going to be called staples center fucking next week fuck that crypto.com shit bring it back bring it back i called it last year i'm like that shit won't go more than a year i feel like they're gonna be late on their payments they're already a few different like sports
Starting point is 01:07:58 teams that are complaining that their crypto sponsors are behind on their payments and shit well yeah the market fucking crashed y'all did not do any research before you encourage people with no money to start buying this shit well you know but i think that's what was intoxicating about it is that rich people kept talking about it so you were like well they're rich it's got to make money it's like no motherfucker they're trying to dupe your ass into jumping in the pool so they can get the fuck out this isn't the first time though a company out of nowhere was like hey we're getting into crypto i don't know if you noticed this radio shack did the same thing do you know like when you watch it have you seen a youtube video where the dude with glasses ty lopez he's like look look in my garage i got a lambo i also got this ferrari
Starting point is 01:08:40 also look at this in my garage i got this whole bookshelf full of books. How do I do it? That same dude who's like that prosperity nonsense dude, he like went in on buying like the, like sort of the copy of like the brand of Radio Shack to try and get it to do something cooler. And he immediately pivoted to doing like edgelord tweets and selling crypto. So I don't know if you saw these tweets.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Did you all see these fucked up RadioShack tweets from, like, a couple weeks ago? I kind of saw it. I don't think so. Were they funny or no? Prepare your ears for what happened when Tai Lopez, the YouTube pre-roll guy, who was like, how'd I get this Lambo,
Starting point is 01:09:17 took over RadioShack and was like, this is the brand now. June 29th, 2022, 5.18 p.m. at RadioShack tweets. If you find a squirter marry her radio shack helpful advice from radio what were you huh that's just the thing you randomly tweeted here's what i don't understand any community manager worth their salt is like standing right behind you essentially as you're you know when you have someone take over which is something companies do a lot you know there's somebody on the other end being like and delete nope not putting that out there okay how about this one what you're gonna sweet first oh no
Starting point is 01:09:54 how about this one just took an upper decker in at applebee's ask me anything that's from the radio tag now no okay how about this one Taking the second half of an edible after feeling nothing from the first half is always a bad idea. This chocolate bar got me out here fighting for my life. I mean, relatable, but I don't see what it has to do with Radio Shack. Also, this chocolate bar got me out here. Oh, you're out here, Radio Shack? Are you serious? For real?
Starting point is 01:10:22 I don't know about that. How about this one? Because I think Radio radio shack must be this this really cool black person says any interaction with this tweet will be considered for a chance to win catching these motherfucking radio hands oh well you want to be black so bad sir you really i know the internet it's like isn't it isn't it such a fucked up place uh so radio shack pivoted to that they're tweeting that shit out they put out their own token that was called a radio coin or some dumb shit. It's now like worth like I think less than a fucking penny.
Starting point is 01:10:50 And this is this is just like a tale as old as time. So watch RadioShack get rebooted to also just fail again. It's pretty funny, though. Right. Exactly. Like resurrect it just for some fucking this dude, the Lambo garage pre-roll guy from YouTube to be like, dude, if she's a fucking squirter, marry her, dude, at Radio Shack. This will help my business. What? Well, it gets eyes on it, right?
Starting point is 01:11:17 And all of the jokes, it's only, you know, jokes. It's because it's Radio Sh shack that it's funny that it's yeah it's relying on that one thing right exactly but even then like it it reads like shit elon musk tweets yeah it's like so then you're like oh but then you realize that people who are there like dude elon's fucking sick dude we've got a fucking like we need that vibe but for radio shack like shit posting is elon still doing crypto dogecoin yeah you know when it when it makes sense for him to create some more revenue i don't know i mean i don't think he's talked about doge i'm pretty sure tesla is no longer taking crypto anymore uh for payments i wonder why because it's fucking worthless i think they there's some
Starting point is 01:12:02 astronomical amount tesla lost from like holding a ton of crypto and just things are compounding whatever company's still standing hey man just uh just a matter of time but i mean honestly like i feel like that's why i'm like always when i talk my i hear my friends talk about crypto i'm like please don't do this like i'm like i know enough people who have lost significant amounts of money because they bought hook, line, and sinker. This idea that this was like their ticket to the top and over-investing, not being balanced with shit, and then being like, oh. Grab your little $100, $50, $10, and just see where it takes you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Take it slow, y'all. You know what's wild? I put in like a couple hundred, and when I lost 50 bucks, I was like, ah. Yeah, it hurt. It hurt. I said so what is going on that inner immigrant kid I was like that's fucking that's cat shit
Starting point is 01:12:51 that's why I'm so bad at like investing shit like traditionally like that and I only gamble you know white people scam they're like when we only had the money we created a system that intentionally left people out and now y'all are figuring it out we're just keep making it harder right keep making it more challenging and less again tangible it's hard for me to wrap my mind around like no stocks i'm like i put it in
Starting point is 01:13:14 this company and i don't take it out but that's my value what i gotta find this what if i have a shoebox full of money i'm gonna do it like my grandma did just a shoebox full of money cash hidden in drawers we don't keep it safe with me can i just let me just read you this again this description of this person who is trying to defend nfts like as the markets are dying if you make an nft of a real diamond and the diamond itself gets destroyed in a fire tomorrow i'm pretty sure a diamond can't be destroyed in a fire. Just... Whatever. It's science. Throw it in the trash. If you want to call it that. Your diamond gets dirty, you have to throw it away.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yeah, and imagine it got all dirty and you can ditch it. It says, if the diamond itself gets destroyed in a fire tomorrow, you still have the same asset. Because the token still exists and is in limited supply just as before nothing has changed what nft is doing to the concept of asset few understand
Starting point is 01:14:13 that's bullshit i'm sorry like i don't want i want my motherfucking diamond i don't know yeah i don't you i i did propose to my wife with a picture of a ring. Yeah, she liked it. I mean, this ring in the image, it was destroyed in a fire yesterday. But this asset remains. So will you hear? Let me turn it. Let me roll it up into a ring.
Starting point is 01:14:38 I can put it around your hand. Will you marry me now with this? Oh, it's very grim. It's very grim it's very grim everybody please keep your head on a swivel because many people in this age of lack are preaching all kinds of ways to become you know attain wealth and 99.9 of it is just a way for you to become a bag holder uh but martin thank you so much for coming on the show and being honest with us about your takes, where you stand on the big issues. Where can people find you and follow you and listen to you and all that?
Starting point is 01:15:10 I am on Instagram. Yes. At Martin Urbano. I also have that new or at Martin Urbano Jr. It's my professional name. Oh, OK. My acting name, like Robert Downey. And I am doing the clown parade for the next few episodes.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Yeah, yeah. Those are... They turned out pretty good. I'm pretty happy with them. Also, I just remembered that I have an NFT. Oh, great. So...
Starting point is 01:15:36 Which one? Hit me up if you'd like to buy my NFT that I got for free at the NFT convention. Oh, they... Like, your attendants are like, hey, dude, free NFT for you, bro. Free NFT. So I'll be selling that for $5 million.
Starting point is 01:15:51 $3? $3 is a good fair price. Yeah, thanks for having me. Wait, what's the picture of? I think just like a nebula. I like how you're really looking it up right now. So you really do have this. I'm trying to, I'm like, I can't even remember how to access it.
Starting point is 01:16:11 I think I'm locked out of my NFT account. Oh, Honey Fungus Specimens R005 NFT. Oh, fantastic. I love that. If that sounded interesting to you. If that sounded interesting to you and you have 4,000 ether, hit me up. Please do. I'm making Instagram.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Less than 4,000 eth. Sorry, y'all. I'm not a broke boy. And what's like a tweet or a contribution to social media work that you're enjoying that you want to put people on to? I wrote it down because I really enjoy chaotic nightclub photos oh yes a classic twitter account love it so good makes me happy every time i see it those are so fucking wild like and are most of them in europe they have to be in europe it feels very german berlin club scene to me right uh the girl peeing in a glass and then setting it on a table and someone throwing that pee back on her is my
Starting point is 01:17:10 favorite one the most chaotic so far also black guy making out with a white girl and now her foundation is all over his face yes another classic that's like a two frame one too right they're kissing and then the next one like he just got that like dust circle on his face oh shit that's a great account if you ever need a quick laugh head over there yeah there's always some some good ones i did not see the one with the person doing the p and then the p being thrown oh you hate to see it but maybe you do on a table like she's like you know sometimes there's elevated VIP spots and they've got bars. So she grabs a glass off the VIP table, pees in it,
Starting point is 01:17:49 and then sets it back on the table. And the person just immediately picks up the glass and throws pee all over her. I was like, Oh shit! I did this! Oh no! Yo, she was reckless! She was in the middle of the club! And everybody was like looking. Everybody was looking at her. And was in the middle of the club. And everybody was like looking.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Everybody was looking at her. And it was not getting in the cup either. It was everywhere. It's all over her hand. You can't. It's really challenging. I'm sorry. Someone with a vagina to aim that in a cup.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Next to impossible. Right. But actually, after watching that video, I realized I should marry her. According to Radio Shack. That's a keeper. That's a keeper. That's a keeper. And also, too, like, just to reference that line about
Starting point is 01:18:33 weapons that are formed against me cannot prosper. When you're peeing all over yourself anyway, trying to get in a pint glass, motherfuckers, they're putting it on, throwing it on them already. It's like they're already covered in pee. It's not going to do much more to them Sorry, you only make her stronger Joelle
Starting point is 01:18:50 How about you? Thanks so much for joining me today Thank you so much for being here Hey, this was fun, thanks for having me Where can they find you, follow you, listen to you And what's a tweet that you like? Yes, y'all can find me all over the internet At Joelle, when he gets J-O-E-L-L-E M-O-N-I-Q-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e
Starting point is 01:19:06 uh i have liked so many so here we go one is from weird al yankovic he says this is the second time in less than a year that there has been a tv episode entitled weird al is dead is the universe trying to tell me something uh so there is both a why the last man which was sadly canceled before its time episode called weird al is dead and now before its time, episode called Weird Al is Dead. And now Paper Girls has an episode called Weird Al is Dead. Sorry to Weird Al, you're going to be okay. I don't know why people keep doing it, but it's funny to me. Another one is from the first Okuro that just says, I'm going to miss Scott Lang, RIP Ant-Man.
Starting point is 01:19:40 And then just a swole-ass picture of Jonathan Majors on a beach. He's coming as King of the Conqueror. Marvel will destroy everyone and I'm here for it. Taran Moore at Terror tweeted, Beyoncé, my eyes are so tired of rolling. How dare you? Just, I know you think we deserve this shit but I promise you we don't. And we don't.
Starting point is 01:19:58 We are just blessed and honored to have Beyoncé in our life. Thank you for blessing us with an album right before the weekend. Again again so gay so lovely and then finally from sarah benicasas she says this is definitely a surprise extra kid album a lot of untamed feral third children will be named cozy for reasons that won't become clear to them for a while hashtag renaissance and i agree cozy is uh maybe the hit of the album uh after alien superstar those are probably my two favorites
Starting point is 01:20:26 so far. It's a classic. If you have a boo thing, get on it. Make a third baby just for funsies. Because wow. Oh, shit. Let's see. Some tweets that I like. First one is from P. Smith.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Tweeted, or Smith, but with a P in front of it, said, in GTA 6, the unionized sex workers will be earning a real living wage when you drive a tank through the strip club. Everyone was talking about it. It's so woke because they're going to have their first Latina playable character in the game.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And I think a lot of people were having all kinds of things of playing around with this progress that was made. But at the end of the day, you still just will be flattening people in a tank. So it's, but to be fair, it's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. That's who you have to play as. They probably would. I'm sure there's going to be a mod eventually where people will be like,
Starting point is 01:21:18 dude, you can make anybody be anyone in this show. And then also Brian Lynch at Brian Lynch tweeted, at one point, New line could make Friday, the 13th movies and also Friday movies. And yet no one did the easiest math ever for a crossover, which would have been an instant hood classic. Oh my God. I would have money on the table.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Money on the table. Friday the 13th is Jason, right? Yes. Okay. So yeah. Oh my God, dude. Yeah. money on the table friday the 13th is jason right yes okay that's more ease yeah oh my god dude yeah jason trying to fucking come through like south la also did they go to the lake or did he come because jason didn't come to their neighborhood they have to go to him no jason jason needs to come to the hood are there isn't there is't there no Jason in the hood movies? I don't think so. I mean, and not in like a problematic way, but, you know, I just want it to be. I feel like he should be in like, you know, man, Tiny Lister's passed away.
Starting point is 01:22:17 So Debo can't be in it. There would have been an epic fight scene between Debo and Jason. Oh, OK. And I know it's problematic to try and resurrect people who have passed away through cg but cut the estate of tiny zeus lister like cut the estate a big check so we can have debo versus jason that's a fucking movie right there debo versus jason oh my god okay i'm sorry i can't keep giving the fucking studios free IP ideas like that
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Starting point is 01:23:29 September 4th. The Virgo has come back to earth. Yes. With the album known as Renaissance. And I'm just going to say, listen to I'm That Girl, because that's the first track on the album, and then you will have to continue listening
Starting point is 01:23:46 to the rest of the album it's already man that's the first track that's the only part I listened to because I was really tired when it dropped but I'm ready these motherfuckers ain't stopping me that's what Beyonce said and she meant it
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