The Daily Zeitgeist - How To Ruin The World’s Favorite Sport, 420 Buuuuuddy 4.20.21

Episode Date: April 20, 2021

In episode 891, Jack and Miles are joined by writer Molly Lambert to discuss the six mass shootings over the weekend, the Chauvin trial, Florida's 'anti-riot' bill, the ESL destroying football, the ne...w Roe v. Wade film, and more!FOOTNOTES: Deckheads: Chief Stews! on Twitch! Man arrested in connection with Wisconsin shooting that killed 3 people, injured 3 others, authorities say Shootings never stopped during the pandemic: 2020 was the deadliest gun violence year in decades Minneapolis braces for violence over Derek Chauvin verdict as pig’s head left at former home of witness who defended cop Few Charges, Fewer Convictions: The Chauvin Trial and the History of Police Violence Florida Senate passes controversial "anti-riot" bill, sends it to DeSantis to sign The ESL would destroy football as we know it – it’s almost as if they don’t care Sofia Vergara and Nick Loeb's Frozen Embryo Legal Battle Ends in Louisiana There’s a New Twist in the Ongoing Legal Battle Over Sofia Vergara’s Frozen Embryos Inside ‘Roe v. Wade’: A Disturbing Anti-Abortion Film Featuring Milo Yiannopoulos and Tomi Lahren Comedian Jamie Kennedy on How He Ended Up in an Anti-Abortion Propaganda Film ‘Roe v. Wade’ Review: Dreadful Anti-Abortion Drama Has No Use for Facts or Filmmaking Basics New movies to stream this week: ‘Roe v. Wade,’ ‘Every Breath You Take’ and more ‘Roe v. Wade’ movie features conservative actors, a South Florida director, and Roger Stone as a Washington Post reporter. Yes, that Roger Stone Nick Loeb’s Roe v. Wade movie will premiere at an Orlando hotel ‘Roe v. Wade’ Review: A Physician’s Change of Heart Nick Loeb's 'Roe v. Wade' Actors Call Foul Over No-Show Paychecks LISTEN: Stormy - Madlib Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 nfl fantasy football podcast on the iheart radio app on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 181 episode 2 of the daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Tuesday, April 20th, 2021 for 20. But yeah, uh-huh. I'm cool. And you can tell my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Yeah, I'm speed, speed balling. That is courtesy of Tom Petty and Justin Brodzik14.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And yeah, Miles mentioned his speedball song, and I thought I'd mention mine. My favorite speedball. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! No AKA today. I just want to use this space to say, fuck Stan Kroenke. Fuck the owners of Manchester United, Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, AC Milan, Inter Milan, well, Juventus. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah. You also got Chelsea, Liverpool. Chelsea, I was going to say. Yeah, Tottenham as well. That other club yeah fuck all these i mean look the sport is already fucked up with capitalism and all that the corporate greed but this shit went to a whole other fucking level that is these motherfuckers don't they truly it's it's one of these moves people don't even they don't even understand how fans will react they don't give a react. They don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And we'll get into that later. But anyway, I just wanted to say that. Yeah. It's all of a piece with what we've learned over the past decade with the stock market just not responding at all to people losing their jobs. They're just like, oh, you guys don't. Oh, we can do this without y'all. Yeah, we can do this. We're fine.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Have you not read Atlas Shrugged? Because it's the only book that we've read. I feel like people who are real big Ayn Rand fans have never read anything else. Don't need to. Yeah, don't need to, man. What else could I possibly learn? Also, I thought you were going to go with the AKA that was what you were known as for many years of your life miles rocky gray i look this is our guest today i think i when i spoke about this
Starting point is 00:04:34 my love of duane the rock johnson you know blazian adjacent and blazian representation was always big so i had a few tiger woods and the rock very early on i found my old eighth grade diploma where my middle i replaced my literal middle name with rocky in quotations like i was some kind of fucking rapper or some shit anyway big shout out to the future president 2024 that rules uh well the aforementioned guest today is the brilliant, the hilarious, the talented Molly Lambert! What's up, what's up, what's up? 818 represent. There we go.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah, yeah. We're all here. Miles, I have a question for you. Yeah. Did anyone actually call you Rocky? No. Nope. That was just for me.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Were you trying to make no no just felt that was that was my place to do it somewhere that was on paper so that was the most committed you ever were to the nickname was on your diploma uh that and like doing the eyebrow you know right people are like is something wrong with miles's face like you have a twitch or something got frozen like that uh no i just it was about that i will wear um i would wear a definitely a wristband on my elbow like a sweatband on my elbow that was half you know because i was kind of baller style of the late 90s early aughts was wristbands and shit yeah yeah and like no even before that you
Starting point is 00:06:02 know we had the the wristies or whatever uh but i would have that on that was also a shout out to the the people's elbow so you know things yeah subtle glasses i would wear the subtle illusions yeah maybe not subtle at all i walked around thinking i was this asshole right good call everybody jabronis and oh hell yeah yeah hell yeah man or i just started saying it doesn't matter what your name is it doesn't matter yeah what about that remix with wycliffe y'all yeah it doesn't matter asking people questions and then before they can answer it doesn't matter i feel like sorry man you asked uh some people are jabronis though and it's true 100 yeah and and the culture has lost sight of that i think in general like that we there are people who are
Starting point is 00:06:55 undeniably and unrepentant unreformed jabronis to this day one or yeah just fucking total jabronskis and i think because we have no shame we need to bring the jabroni back because there's nothing you can call you can't even call racist people we're getting to that point with racists where they're like and you're like oh fuck yep see okay so there's no shame out here so i wonder maybe we need jabroni yeah common jabroni confuse the hell out of them what yeah are you jabroni all right jabron let's get let's get going here come on buddy jabron james all right molly we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment but first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today uh i think we're just gonna devote the whole episode
Starting point is 00:07:43 to uh that whatever the soccer thing Miles was talking about was nah we'll dig into some more shit I'll help you understand because it's really it's going to upset the global balance like the Iraq
Starting point is 00:07:59 war did but with much higher stakes much higher stakes no but it's really cataclysmic shit but with much higher stakes. Much higher stakes. No, but it's really cataclysmic. All right. We're going to talk about the six mass shootings over the weekend and just where we're at with gun reform. We're going to talk about how the Derek Chauvin coverage
Starting point is 00:08:18 is panning out, how people are anticipating the jury decision. Verdict, I think is the word that other people use, but I try not to. I'm in a post-verdict world. I'm in a post-verdict world. We're going to talk about what's happening in Florida. We're going to talk about that soccer thing. We're going to talk about the Roe v. Wade movie, all of that plenty more but first molly we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are what you're up to uh yeah i i was looking up sea pear because uh anna and i we do a show called deckheads chief stews on tuesday nights ananta hosnia fellow zeitgang affiliate and we were talking about like pear soda and uh because we drink weird things on the show because it's on
Starting point is 00:09:14 twitch we like to drink weird things out of martini glasses and uh i bought a pear soda at a armenian market but i sent her a picture of something else that was like a sea buckthorn drink and she was like is that pear what is that no what it what are those words we say a sea buckthorn yeah yeah so then i was like sea buckthorn is a plant it's like underwater berries okay and people drink it people make a juice out of it and drink it. Wow. So, yeah, sometimes I was looking up a lot of like weird juice. Why can't I imagine anything being like sweet that comes from the ocean? I guess because everything's just so salty. I don't know that it is sweet.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I think it's like weird and tangy and it's more about the supposed health benefits i had never heard of it as a plant but apparently it's like the number one health drink in like russia and ukraine oh awesome i feel like we gotta there's got to be like some piece of good news where they like discover oh shit this is this thing that lives in the maras trench is the most healthy plant. It's supposed to be good for heart health, allegedly, but it's one of those things where there's no real proof. But maybe. I feel good. Am I just going to draw that connection? There it is.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I do feel like it's like whenever they find a plant in the rainforest and it's like it cures some very specific disease, you know, and you're like, why would that be true? Why would there be a plant that just has something in it that's like good for that disease? Nature's amazing. Yeah. Who would have thought? Molly, what is something you think is overrated? Well, I am a member of a group called Nolympics LA.
Starting point is 00:11:07 We're trying to get the Los Angeles 2028 games canceled because it's a really bad idea and it'll bring in like three times as many cops, partner with ICE, everything bad. Yay. Yay. But I just wanted to say the olympics in general super overrated would you believe they're doing the 2020 olympics now yeah i don't know why i don't know nobody wants it that's the
Starting point is 00:11:36 thing is uh the 2020 olympics are supposed to be in tokyo 2020 they uh obviously didn't happen because of coronavirus they postponed it a year because basically when you sign up to have your city have the olympics you're just on the hook for whatever amount of money i already spent that money i already spent the 20 billion dollars over budget it is now um so they really are insisting on doing it but like nobody in japan wants it there's been polling and like 70 percent of people plus are like we don't want this right now because um coronavirus is totally back in japan they're having like a fourth wave yeah like a lot of the rest of the world they are not done
Starting point is 00:12:16 with coronavirus because america hoarded all the vaccines yeah yeah and we're just like well hold on let's just make sure all of the other ones suck bad enough and then we'll give you some of them yeah so they're doing the torch race right now the torch relay which are they yeah it started already which we uh we hate the torch relay for many reasons including that it was invented by the nazis hitler for the 1936 olympics but they're doing it now and it keeps how you know they might have to like cancel stops because coronavirus is not because hitler like started it no no they don't i mean like how about that hey whoa whoa hold on how we thought of wait do y'all remember who started this one do you think there's anything fascist about a giant torch being carried between uh across the land across the land uh
Starting point is 00:13:07 so yeah does it is it that when it starts in greece and then ends up yeah would you believe it's uh because they wanted to show the legacy of like western history from greece to germany in 1936 but it's still creepy now and yeah they uh are also preparing to dump a bunch of nuclear radioactive water in fukushima because this was supposed to be the quote-unquote recovery games because it's 10 years after the earthquake and nuclear disaster would you believe the area hasn't recovered and that doing a big tourist event there won't help? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's going to... Oof. Also, turns out nobody really cares about the Olympics. People didn't really notice they weren't happening, and now that they are happening, nobody really noticed. Yeah. Just make them a one spot.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Just fucking do that if you want to make it village that is specifically in one place in the middle of nowhere it's got to be it's got to be worker owned though too it's got to be athlete owned it can't be the international olympic committee because they are a bunch of war criminals okay what okay how about this what about visa bunch of war criminals kind of okay what okay how about this what about visa yeah that would be sick that's true because you can't even put a face to it it's like visa you know i mean how how bad could they be hey that's what we say about every company and then you know what are they oh you know so i'm assuming the torch relay is like a chance for local advertisers to like get in on whatever the grift is?
Starting point is 00:14:46 2020 Tokyo grift? Yeah, to siphon money from local people? They always say, we're going to help the locals, and then they don't do that. It's all super corporate at the top level. To be fair, there's at least two photo shoots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's two photo shoots, and then they
Starting point is 00:15:03 stay up and over. I'm putting this shovel on this ground with this ribbon on it and be fucked off forever no and you can see there's like there's like 1984 Olympics photos in LA up at restaurants
Starting point is 00:15:17 and stuff sometimes but there's also a lot of people who went to jail I like that the Olympic torch is like the uncultural plateau with the giant scissors cutting a big opening of a building and like a person digging, breaking ground. Things that literally nobody except for like a handful of corporate executives give a shit about. Yep. And then you use that as part of an annual report on philanthropy and you can pat yourself on your big shoulder pads. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I mean, it's all a grift. It's all a big old grift and Tokyo 2020 grift. Tokyo 2020 Rift. Also, at the same time, I feel like it's the... In terms of entertainment, watching the torch run by through your town is the equivalent of
Starting point is 00:16:14 going down to the docks and waving goodbye to a boat that is being sent off. Oh, you can't even do it. They sell the ticket. The tickets are all given out to rich people way before... What is the entertainment value? Does anybody actually go? The tickets are all like given out to rich people way before. There's no like no regular people. What is the entertainment value? Does anybody actually go?
Starting point is 00:16:28 It's because you spent $15,000 on your visa in three months. Literally, they're like, oh, you know, locals can come watch a Torch Relay. And then it is always just like rich people who paid a lot to be there get to come and sit there. There it goes. Yeah. It's going. Yes. LA-84.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Just waving in fast motion like it's a 1900s like newsreel la 84 it was run in by oj hey and absolutely what could be more emblematic yeah damn right and i think they should have it run in by him again and completely agree uh when it's yeah but we're not gonna let it happen in 2028 because we're out in these streets. Yes. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated. I'm going to go wombats.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Ooh. Whoa. Brilliant the wombats. Why? What happened? They're cute and funny and their poop is a square. That is truly one of the most amazing things. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I remember that on Creature Feature. Yeah. Or maybe it comes up all the time when you go on Creature Feature, but I remember being on a poop-shaped episode and I was about to be like, are they the cube poopers? Yeah, and the only ones of any animal.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And they're just kind of cute little chonkas. Recommended. Wombat. What is... What are... Are there... Where are they? Like, where do we got to go to see them?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Tanzania. Tanzania. Tasmania. Yeah. Tasmania. Oh, shit. Sorry, not to. Rio Island.
Starting point is 00:17:58 All right, mate. We're on our way then. They are pretty cute. Are they... They poop little charcoal bricks sorry not tanzania tasmania please edit me out saying tanzania it's because i corrected you and i get to feel superior it's in there forever uh justin don't cancel target identified cancel target identified cancel target identified i didn't know i mix up the countries that wombats are from.
Starting point is 00:18:25 No, all good. Yeah. All right. We'll cut that out because I think it's the quicker we can go into my offensive Australian accent. Yes, the better. Also, Zaygang loves it when we discuss poop up top. And I do just have to circle back and mention that it's not perfect cubes.
Starting point is 00:18:41 They do look like charcoal bricks. Yeah. Or brownies. that it's not perfect cubes. They do look like charcoal bricks. Mm, yeah. Or brownies, but... Yeah, wasn't there like a Reese's chocolate... Wombat chip? ...confection that was a little like that, that was almost like a s'mores-y type... Anyway, yeah, I'm trying to...
Starting point is 00:18:57 Well, it's ruined now. It shouldn't be. Look, just as delightful to me either way, in either context. How big can they get? They kind of look... They're big. They're big. They're just as delightful to me either way in either context. How big can they get? They kind of look. They're big. They're big.
Starting point is 00:19:08 They're bigger than you think. Yeah. Looking at this one photo, I'm like, oh, they could maybe fuck you up a little bit. And they build these huge burrows. They're basically like groundhogs, but like giant. So they have these big old burrows. And there was a cool story about how during some wildfires a bunch of other animals were able to hide out in their burrows oh right yeah like the news made it seem like the wombats
Starting point is 00:19:32 were like oh come into me burrow yeah mate but um it's just that their burrows are so big that there's like enough room for some other animals to like hide out in there during the fires and uh survive they were actually like really terrible to the other animals that were like seeking refuge like get the fuck out mate this ain't your burrow mate well shit they also um they like kick like donkeys so cool when they want to like they'll like run when someone's chasing them they'll run them up to their burrow and then they'll like put their face in the burrow and just go bonk and they have a plate
Starting point is 00:20:08 in their ass that they can just use to go bonk. Old plate ass. That rules. I figured they must have some really aggro defense feature because spherical poop is
Starting point is 00:20:24 the least surface area so that's like an animal being like please don't find me and then cubicle poop is like come get me come get at me it's like come find the big square ass this came from I dare you
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Starting point is 00:25:27 weekend since indianapolis yeah and then 47 since atlanta yeah and that's by that's the metric of four people being injured or killed not including the shooter so if you went to three i can't only imagine how many more that would be as uh sort of staggering as this is, like 2020, which is the year that keeps getting referred to, and we've talked about this before, but it bears repeating because this story has become the way to talk about gun violence is like the number of mass shootings. 2020 was as bad. It was the worst year in American history for shootings, or at was the worst year in American history for shootings, or at least the worst year in decades.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Even though people weren't out? Yeah. The mass shootings went away because there weren't crowds of people, but low profile shootings, aka shootings affecting communities of color, were up wildly in 2020.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And does it just didn't cover it worse every year? It doesn't. It's kind of sporadic, but it seems like, and there we have seen cases where it went down by a lot when there were like those assault rifle bands or at least mass shootings went down by a lot, but it's those assault rifle bans or at least mass shootings went down by a lot but it's just weird because there's like these different things we talk about mass shootings and that's the type of gun violence that kind of captures the attention so that gets
Starting point is 00:26:55 covered as if it is gun violence but then there's all this other gun violence that's happening that the media just completely ignores and either either direction that you want to take that information it means that the gun violence problem is just so so much worse than we are willing to admit like in the mainstream plus the old the old police yeah yeah exactly that's not even counting them yeah yeah they shot and killed a thousand people and or almost a thousand people in 2020 and there's usually more gun deaths by suicide every year i don't know like that i keep coming back to the idea that guns need to be treated like a public health crisis like they're the argument and pushback you always
Starting point is 00:27:47 hear is that well they're like everywhere nobody like you're not going to get people to stop using guns or like having guns everywhere like but with smoking like generations ago it seemed like well everybody smokes and you're not going to get people to stop smoking but it's you know we we've had success just by putting legislations and like rules and laws in place you know we need legislation you know we need like politicians that do things because the filibuster in place still yeah and even though like there's clearly not a fucking third rail issue to talk about gun control right now,
Starting point is 00:28:25 based on like how many people are like, what the fuck is this? Like what's going on? We just still have this pack of jokers who were just like wanting, they're like, the concern is be like overplaying their hand in terms of introducing legislation that would keep us safe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Everybody's always like the midterms. What about the midterms? If we try to ban guns and what about people dying man fuck your midterms also when you said we got to treat it like a public health crisis i'm like i don't know that we're good at that either right but like yeah though i mean just more in the context when the context like when you think about smoking, that was something that we were at a point where the
Starting point is 00:29:09 people were just allowing themselves to be lied to. We're at that point before when cigarette companies were like, well, tobacco doesn't lead to cancer, and politicians were just like, well, they said so, so we're not going to... Now we've got vaping.
Starting point is 00:29:26 It's like decades and decades ago and i i think we have like a long time to go to problem is also the lobbyists and stuff because oh for sure yeah if something makes money in america it's really hard to get people to stop doing it there's a whole industry to being like uh no we're we're all for keeping the spigot open in fact turning it wider so even if it like doesn't make money but there's the potential for it to make money yeah it's never to close that off yes and if you are then you're an activist usually on the other side the lobby's like no open fucking all the fucking way no don't fucking stop no matter what and yeah this is what we're looking at. They've somehow convinced. I mean, it's not even that the lobbyists are convincing politicians because this the sort of psychology of the politicians we have is these like lame ass.
Starting point is 00:30:14 It's also just celebrities of Americans like we saw with the public health crisis, too. It's like people are like, my personal freedoms are the most important thing. And me being able to do whatever I want all the time. It's like people are like, my personal freedoms are the most important thing, and me being able to do whatever I want all the time is all I care about. What a really bummer 420 this is so far.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Look, man, you know, it's like, that way look, you can't say you buried your head in the sand, this 420. You could have a good one. That's right, man. There's no escapism. That's right, bro. Oh, i hope you're not smoking weed to escape man i hope you're doing it to make everything more vivid that's how fucking intense i am was that your rock voice coming in a little bit uh i don't know what do you mean like the rock johnson yeah yeah uh no i i look it's been years it's been years since i've attempted duane come on man give
Starting point is 00:31:08 it to us one time um for the millions and millions that is more duane yeah couldn't even do it into the microphone yeah no because you turn it away because the power would have been too much for the listeners you got to get that eyebrow up you know what i mean to take you got to fucking you got to take in that applause like a fat line of cocaine like that's what he's smelling yeah cocaine right all right uh i did want to talk about how uh the impending verdict as some people call it uh in the choven trial is being covered by the mainstream media it's like you're you're seeing a lot about like minnesota on edge with like photographs of police in like riot gear and like batting down the hatches and like it's i don't know it feels like a weird like way to cover a case where
Starting point is 00:32:08 the the question is about whether somebody did something that we all saw them do on camera and like that they just like kind of leave that out i don't know if it's because they're like the media is not supposed to influence like a jury or something, but it just feels like the possibility that they let someone who committed murder on camera like get away with it. And the fact that he's guilty on camera of murdering someone is sort of left unspoken. They're just focusing on the possibility of what happens if he's acquitted or there's a hung jury, which seems like you're kind of covering a story, assuming one of the major elements of the story decides to stop cohering to any logic. Right. the New York times covered it almost like a five 38 thing where they did like a, an analysis of priors and all the different ways that the judicial system has fucked up very similar cases of people, uh,
Starting point is 00:33:14 obviously murdering people of color on camera. Um, and, but, and they were like, here's one way it could go. Here's another. This is why we think like
Starting point is 00:33:25 the fact that they had a police witness is like important but um i don't know they don't they don't follow it up with the discussion of like how clearly broken and white supremacist the system is and some of the accounts some of the cases that they describe are just like beyond infuriating and i know this is like the journalistic like well we don't say we just say well they're like gotta see both sides and it's like there are not two sides to this right they did it it's on video if people are denying that it happened it's because they're so invested in white supremacy and policing that you know it's like uh propaganda they'll just be like yep i didn't see it yeah that's not what he did just because he's he's just trying to get control of a suspect
Starting point is 00:34:18 that's what happens so he shouldn't uh you know just interact with cops or whatever because i'm so cop-brained and the whole gamification of it is because they don't see black life as human life. That's the only reason you can be like, no team has come back from three games down in a series. Right. What the fuck are you talking about? They must have done something to warrant it happening.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So therefore breaking the law to beat the shit out of somebody. I mean, it just all is the rodney king trial to to say like yes that i think that needs to be underlined more that we're there's a pattern here not like never ever has a white cop been convicted that that's i think it's fair analysis as a journalist even if you're playing both sides to observe that and say this is a very rare occurrence in the united states because of this if they did convict some of the racist cops occasionally they'd be able to be like look people get punished when they break the law even police officers but they won't even do that it's like no
Starting point is 00:35:26 if you're in the police you can just do whatever you want and there's no punishment yeah there's no consequences so of course that doesn't motivate people to stop yeah in the law yeah it's it's again that's how the media functions to protect white supremacy because it has a hand in removing the terminology from the discourse by saying a city on edge right oh my god the state of lakes filled with the tears of minnesotans on edge right like it's fucking bullshit yeah because you're turning you're just turning it into like you're just like you're trying to explain something complex to a child and you're not giving them the full picture because you're being like oh what about what about property
Starting point is 00:36:13 what about property getting vandalized you know what could be worse than that um i don't know maybe killing somebody who is innocent and minding their business because you're a racist. No, no, no. Okay, so now we're in opinion territory because you said our word. Yeah, go over to the opinion page. I mean, yeah, it's not like this feels like the entire old school journalistic apparatus has this thing where it separates the stuff out but it just leaves this surreal experience of reading a story
Starting point is 00:36:50 where the most important factor is just left unspoken. If you just read this story about all these police getting off it's like you would just be like wait what? Why is this happening they keep
Starting point is 00:37:06 murdering people in this story and then getting let off and you're saying that that might happen again but like it's never addressed it's just kind of like i guess implied but that just feels insufficient to the moment to then crush you so you're like it's to be like just give up right let's let the state roll us yeah that's well speaking of things that remain legal and things that will be made illegal florida is moving forward with its combating violence disorder and looting and law enforcement protection act yep they're they're you know making it illegal to exercise your first amendment rights uh by essentially saying like um let's protect the police so that way anyone else that doesn't like it when poor people and allies get together to voice their displeasure they can just do whatever the fuck they want and make it mad illegal uh and yeah this this would just be great this is how we combat any
Starting point is 00:38:10 kind of progress so the things that it's doing is essentially just make it makes it a third degree felony when seven or more persons are involved in an assembly and cause damage to property or injury to other persons that's just how the fuck are you supposed to know anything about how a demonstration can go or bad faith people who are just doing on their own shit whatever it is there's no way to know and to say okay now we're going to put give all these all these people with felonies on top of that i think one of the things that's been pointed out for the most is about that essentially makes it legal to drive through people or a crowd if you feel like you're fleeing for your own safety from a mob making the driver
Starting point is 00:38:52 not liable for any injury or death like it's the end on and also you can hit people with rico charges if you organize or fund an assembly that goes disorderly or whatever, they're essentially saying, hey, we're here to completely dead this shit. So no matter what, you have the threat of a felony. We'll take your fucking benefits from you and your kids because you went to a protest. Those are the threats now hanging over people. It kind of seems like we live in a failed state. Oh, 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It kind of seems like we live in a failed state. Oh, 100%. Yeah, because now, yeah, because, I mean, I think the second you're saying, pointing out that things are bad is illegal. Right. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. That's what this shit, they said, if you want to come out and say, we don't like this shit, it's on.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I mean, also, like, given how demonstrations go, when they say if it gets violent or disorderly, it's usually the police. Actually, it's always the police that instigate Kettle and do whatever the fuck they got to do to start turning shit up to justify whatever their own escalation is. So this is like, they've just created a feedback loop to be like,
Starting point is 00:40:01 yeah, man, if they're out there and y'all are out there, it's fucking on. And they're all gettingonies. And it's just whatever happens fucking happens because we've completely changed the law. And to take it to this point, too, because it is a failed state. It is also it's just like the last step in trying to preserve this myth that is central to policing, which is that investment in armed protectors is going to create the kind of safety that people desire or need rather than giving everyone the peace of mind of being materially supported and taking away the chaos of lack of needing of not being supported that that is how you're going to create safety not we need more fucking goons man that's the problem shit's gone out of control it's gone it's not gone out of control y'all have fucked up so bad you failed all these people and you act why everybody is so upset because they don't have anything so again solving problems in america
Starting point is 00:40:59 by just creating new ones and becoming a never-ending revenue stream that gets just menial results. So is this going to be enacted into law immediately? Or how does that work? I mean, I'm assuming it will eventually succeed. Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure it's going to be sent to his desk to be signed. So it will be signed into law i mean it's people like there's going to be a lot of lawsuits and shit but yeah it's the you know they control the republicans control the florida senate house so boom boom one after the other so i, it's again, there seems to be this overall structure where the police are so petty and so fragile. And if like somebody says something mean to them, they get to like start shooting at them with shooting projectiles at them that can crack their skull and shit and like when you look at the number of police that uh shot and
Starting point is 00:42:07 killed people it was like close to a thousand 2020 when you look at the number of police that were shot and killed there was like i found this on like a police news uh site and it was like 45 unacceptable this is like ridiculous like the and it's just there's this imbalance of like how they want things to be viewed that is obviously like all racists they have a victim complex where they're like i'm the real victim right in this situation people calling me a racist is uh worse than me being one right yeah uh And also the Democrats aren't doing shit to stand up to the police either. That's the problem also.
Starting point is 00:42:49 There's no opposition party. No, and the ones that are even like to the left of Democrats, they just get shushed out and they're just like, no, don't say that. Yeah, we can't. We don't like that.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah, because policing is also just intertwined with the history of slavery in America. So talking about police is just it unearths a lot of stuff that, you know, the propaganda machine prefer we not discuss being integral to the financial success of America. Yeah. Much like the Olympic torch marathon torch marathon pretty much they're like don't look too far back why that started look at the look at the uh coordinated uh ceremony of everybody marching in lockstep yeah so yeah i mean again this is just it's all we just run into the same fucking problems because capitalism won't allow for stability
Starting point is 00:43:45 because there's no money in that right and because of that we have to come up with these ridiculous fake solutions that just cause more problems or just look different enough to like oh that's new but you're just spending money on fucking robot dogs and what the fuck are you doing right just like with climate change like rather than properly investing in the shit that we needed to reduce emissions we're more like what kind of technologies can we use to fucking fight the earth it's like what the fuck are we doing oh 100 yeah just so backwards at every step and it and i you know you'd hope more and more people begin to see the absurdity of it because on its face it's so absurd like there's nothing you can say that you're like oh yeah this is a line to the solution no everything is so absurd but it feels like dissent just keeps being criminalized so
Starting point is 00:44:35 it's like right what are you supposed to do right i mean hope i't know. Do a goddamn podcast here on independent media where we can say. Exactly. Whoops. Fuck the police. Yeah. At least say that here. I was just thinking of when you mentioned the Olympic torch in the context of profitability. I was just thinking back.
Starting point is 00:45:00 The one memorable moment from that was Muhammad Ali at ali like at the atlanta olympics like running the final oh right stretch running the torch up to whoever like lit the arrow and fired it at the thing or maybe he actually ran right up to the torch but it's just funny to think about like that was when he entered his it's been long enough that his radicalism is like now well you see that they do that with the olympics a lot too where they bring in people that uh you know the athletes who did the black power salute at the mexico olympics you know obviously the olympics fucking hated that at the time uh and also their police murdered a bunch of students during that one. But yeah, it's like if it's been long enough, then they try to co-opt it into the commercialism.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I feel like we also saw this in real time last year with the Black Lives Matter movement being co-opted by corporations, but with no material. With nothing. With just a statement, nothing nothing behind it and and trying to corporatize it in order to sort of neutralize it as an actual radical threat that was wild to see happen so so fast and also people being pissed at it and being like, fuck this, you know. Yeah. That Pepsi commercial was ahead of its time. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course Lucha Libre
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Starting point is 00:50:24 Do it before it's too late. Subscribe and listen to the nfl fantasy football podcast on the iheart radio app on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and uh it's time to talk about a couple sports. One is an obscure one. Soccer, I believe it's called in Europe. I call it football. Thank you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:56 So what's going on, man? You seem worked up about this whole soccer thing going down. Really worked up. Really fucking worked up. You seem real mad, Miles. I mean, I start off by acknowledging the global capitalist perversion that is all professional sports.
Starting point is 00:51:14 So I'm not here to be like shocked by anything that I'm about to say because this has been on trend with every sport on earth and soccer especially. Like just the World Cup itself is is a joke. But we're also find ourselves in a time where we're asking UEFA and FIFA to save the sport, which is how bad things are at the moment. So there's this thing that's trending right now that you might see called the European Super League.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And what the fuck is this? It's all over Twitter and shit. It's because it's been trending since Sunday because 11 of Europe's top clubs, plus another team as it stands, teams like Arsenal or they play in the English Premier League, which is governed by the English Football Association. So and they're under UEFA, who is like is the union of the European football associations. And in Real Madrid or Barcelona, they they play in the Spanish La Liga. And so what they're trying to do is say, fuck our domestic leagues, since we're the hot boys. And I'm sorry, Arsenal and Tottenham are not doing that great right now. So I don't know what the fuck they're trying to do with these other teams. But they they're trying to say, let's start our own league and synergistically create all of this revenue for TV and things because we are the biggest clubs in the world.
Starting point is 00:52:45 and things because we are the biggest clubs in the world. But the real thing is that what they're trying to do is create a league that has absolutely zero competition, zero merit. It's just barely any merit-based achievement because they're trying to create an NFL or NBA type structure where the teams are locked. They can never be relegated. And that's a big factor in European football. And just football globally is that there's this idea that the bottom three teams that finish in the league, they can be relegated to like the minor leagues. And then the minor leagues, the top three teams can now move up to the top level. So it creates all this competition where potentially your little club could make its way all the way to the premier league or all the way to like these you know higher european or global competitions but by doing this they're essentially saying
Starting point is 00:53:29 we're locking it up there's no competition we're gonna make way more money and fuck the domestic leagues and it's upsetting to many people and it'll be like 12 teams like just 15 total is what they want to have it as it's just it doesn't make any fucking sense because it's just it's just to it's just to create this like NFL NBA type structure where it's the same fucking teams every year
Starting point is 00:53:57 and it there's no incentive to perform like if you always know you're going to get your big like TV money check at the end of the season or the beginning of the season. And this is being so who's doing this because there's like all this great tradition there, like the kind of the fact that a team can come up from the minors and become a major league team and then like other teams can get knocked back down is like one of the features that you hear fans like talk about lovingly. Obviously, it's not this pressure is not coming from the fans. Is it like the players? It sounds European Super League sounds like a WWE wrestling org where like the one of the tag teams has leader hose.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And then the other one has like is like dressed in tuxedos with a rose. Yeah, like an english bobby or something right yeah it's no it's precise it's the owners of the clubs it's like the agnelli uh who is the owner of juventus he owns fiat his family owns fucking fiat oh okay there is stan cronky who owns a stake in arsenal who owns the rams who owns the avalanche who owns the fucking all many teams who's also married to a walton so he's tied up in walmart money the glazers uh owned manchester united there's the fucking fsg the fenway sports group that owns liverpool americans have infested european football along with many other people because manchester city owned by like this Emirati group. And there's a lot of people just completely changing the course of the game
Starting point is 00:55:29 where they see these as profit making clubs because the sport is so popular. And now they're willing to completely potentially rip these. Like, it won't even matter that Manchester United is from Manchester because in this, the way this league could operate, you could see like Barcelonacelona play man united and at fucking in san francisco this weekend oh really what the fuck it would just be wherever
Starting point is 00:55:51 it yeah it has the potential for that kind of thing that's why they like they see all this money-making potential but the fans don't want that and i think that's the biggest thing is that they don't realize fans absolutely do not want this they like the idea that their team can go on and be the you know best team in europe uh just based on the strength of like the way the league is set up now money has been changing the game pretty steadily since the early 2000s um where just wealthy owners have just been able to come in and completely change teams over because there's no salary cap so you can make over team with your money but a lot of this too is is it's like a lot of negotiating between the owners who want a lot more money from these governing bodies like uefa and fifa and i think
Starting point is 00:56:36 what they're doing is saying we could literally do this shit right now if you don't come to the negotiating table and we will and that's why we're that's why we're getting so ugly about it because that's what we're trying to do but i'm hoping that the clubs are all crushed with sanctions mine included i don't care if arsenal are fucking just skull fucked to hell with you know being relegated being kicked out of competitions to feel that impact because i don't know it's it's an absolute overstep and it's i don't know what else to say just more more greed uh unchecked greed and it's spilling into fucking every aspect of my life yeah any like sports is one of those kind of ecosystems where billionaires who are like uniquely ill-suited to make decisions are the ones who get to make
Starting point is 00:57:26 all the decisions like you have to be a billionaire just to start making the decisions in the first place like it's not like you're the wisest person right where there's a part where you're like working your way up it's like you become a billionaire you like leave the planet earth in terms of logic and, you know, being able to understand the human experience and then you become an owner. And so, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:52 It's, I'm not hopeful. I'm not hopeful, but it's definitely, it's an inflection point that there's no escape arriving at. Yeah. There's nothing, there's no escapism.
Starting point is 00:58:03 That's the, what we keep coming back to. Yeah, truly. Cause like, even if, you know, even like you watch formula one and you're like,
Starting point is 00:58:09 Oh my God, what is this fucking like all human rights violators being like celebrated in car form. Um, and like everything, like at every level, you know what I mean? And I think this potentially has an interesting moment because I feel like
Starting point is 00:58:24 the players, that's one thing they don't realize is if the players are willing to move in a certain direction together, that could potentially change what this European Super League looks like. Right. money i don't know if that's why it's going to be interesting right now is just the first shot has been fired and there's going to be ton of like threats and being sued and you know right now they're saying like if to the players if you play for one of these clubs you can't represent your national team in the world cup or the euro cup which is a huge huge blow to a player they're like uh actually i want that more than any more than i want to play for a club i can play for any club i can't rip i can only represent my country in one way. So, I don't know. I feel like this and Formula One will be the two sports that are played on Elysium.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Like after all the rich people have just literally left the planet. Oh, yeah. The Mars Grand Prix. Formula One is totally going to be the one we find out is like all a front for like child sex trafficking. Right. Right. They're like all that infrastructure being shipped around the earth. Everyone just going to like the weirdest resort towns in the fanciest yacht places.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Right. And yeah. right and hey yeah and then spending like more money than nasa on each car to like just get it to rocket around the the course like as fast as possible and like half like most people aren't really paying attention only fans are and uh america just learned it existed because of that netflix show because let's be honest. Because of super producer Alan Hosni. Who is the number one F1 evangelist out there right now. Team principal for Zeitgang Racing. She got me into it by explaining that they're all like insane divas.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I mean, when you're about to crash at 200 miles an hour, why not be a little catty? They're so catty. And they're like, I have to be the fastest. It's also like if team sports had the same sort of like ego distribution as like a rock band where like the lead singer is just like so far and above like everybody else and it's just like well this is gonna it's gonna suck for like you're also fighting everyone on your own team right yeah yeah mercenary that's why americans would like
Starting point is 01:00:57 it though because it's all like you you you me gotta fast. The fact that it hasn't taken off in America where it just seems like it's so perfectly designed for Americans. It's just classy NASCAR. Right. That's right. Because we have NASCAR. That's why nobody gives a shit about it, I guess. But they're much funnier than NASCAR drivers. NASCAR drivers are like not charismatic to me personally.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Also, in general, I I'm like you're not doing it the car's doing it you're just in the car it's like a jockey you know there you go wow so you feel that way about F1 drivers too yeah for sure it's all just like oh whoever spends the most money on the car wins
Starting point is 01:01:40 yeah and at the end of the day that will separate people because a lot of them are like well if I had Lewis Hamilton's car yeah that's like all they talk about it's like oh like we don't have enough as much money as Ferrari so like Ferrari won and then again ain't that the tale of the earth oh you can't afford it huh right well I guess you're left behind bitch bye more money equals better than alright well let's talk briefly about an indie film that we've been buzzing about you
Starting point is 01:02:09 know f1 obviously something that has been influential behind the scenes on the the zeitgeist team but also this new uh small flick that just came out was years in the making uh almost like was that boyhood was the link later yeah it's like boyhood except uh none of the time spent behind the scenes uh is evident on on the screen but so this movie is called roe v wade baby it is by the looks of the poster it is a disaster movie it's yeah it looks like it's takes place on a fallen post-lapsarian hell earth uh roe v wade what when like abortion has uh cleared the earth of all its population um but it's actually even 9-11 vibes too yeah yeah because there's like twin tower kind of hulking structures in the foreground but it's a history it's a it's it
Starting point is 01:03:06 tells you the history you didn't know about how roe v wade it so let's just start with who created this uh it was originally supposed to star uh and like he was just starring and producing this guy nick lobe um who you might have heard of uh because he was sued by sofia vergara over her frozen embryos they had like used ivf to conceive and had previously broken up she broke up with him after uh he tagged along with her to a white house event sucks he's the worst person he invented he's like maybe a White House event. He sucks. He's the worst person. He invented, he's like maybe a rich kid. He has a brand of like onion crunch.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Onion crunch. Like fried onions that you put on salads. That he brought to a meeting with the Obamas. Or brought to, like he got to go with her to the White House and took a picture with the Obamas and tagged the picture with his condiment, the onion crunch condiment that he's trying to hawk. And so she broke up with him. She broke up with him and she upgraded to Joe Manganiello, the Armenian stallion from the Magic Mike movies and True Blood and some other stuff. And they're just like two hotties. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:29 The most well-matched couple of all time. Right. No wonder her ex is butthurt. Yeah, is jealous to the point of launching a lawsuit that didn't have any chance of going anywhere but it did get him uh some coverage from the right on the like from the standpoint of like he's fighting for men's rights when it comes to uh conception and he was like we did ivf she has control over these i don't know like zygotes and he is like now like they're mine i should have i should
Starting point is 01:05:08 have the right to like bring this baby to term and or bring these like children to term and it just was a fucking mess and the court was like get the fuck out of here so anyways the production was a lie the whole time to the point that he ended up having to direct it because like the director didn't know what it was about until like they were days away from shooting. They read the script and they're like, oh, oh, this is completely bonkers and just a giant lie and left the project. So this person had to direct it to solve that problem and the problem that like other actors kept like fleeing the set and being like, yeah, sorry, we're out. This is a nightmare. It stars Jon Voight. Yes. And Stacey Dash.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And Blossom's Joey Lawrence, who apparently has migrated to the right. Oh, that's not surprising, but also sad. Yeah. I mean, it's just he, you know, in the absence of relevance, that tends to be like the gravitational pull. He, he, he like drove a hard bargain to be in that film. I heard too. He wanted to be called Whoa V. Wade. And it didn't happen happen but he still did it but you know credit to his agent he tried he really tried yeah also how do you how do you
Starting point is 01:06:32 how do you take a director gig and you don't know what the fuck you're shooting do they was it that they showed them one script that they agreed to and then like we made some alterations days before shooting i'm just still laughing about how you walked us into that joke actually this whole segment was written by Miles just as a lead to that joke we have nothing else to say about this see what happens when I say things I make jokes in front of her majesty and she rolls her eyes
Starting point is 01:06:57 and says that's stupid I go watch this I'm gonna write a whole piece in the show and they won't even know but the producers began withholding scripts and changing around the dialogue until the cameras were about to roll. So people wouldn't have a chance to bail. I don't understand, though, because people, an early draft, this is an early draft, apparently included Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, portrayed as a KKK sympathizer. Right. Although she was kind of problematic.
Starting point is 01:07:27 She kind of was, but they showed a cross burning. Oh, wow. So again, I'm just like, did somebody read the script and be like, oh, yeah, that sounds normal. I should see that. Right. Jamie Kennedy plays a huge role in the movie movie and he kind of got grilled about that. And in a really ridiculous interview where he was like, well, you know, I believe in free speech and I didn't know what the thing was.
Starting point is 01:08:00 What exactly was the Kennedy experiment was really all about protecting free speech. Right. You've always said that, Molly. But he was pressed by the interviewer who was like, I feel like if someone popped in on Triumph of the Will, I would probably assume
Starting point is 01:08:20 that they don't like Jews very much. Bringing it back to the torch relay. Triumph of the Will. Girl boss Lenny Riefenstahl. that they don't like Jews very much. Bringing it back to the torch relay. Yeah, exactly. Girl boss, Lenny Riefenstahl. Fucking hate that. Fucking hate her. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Well, they love to show the one, like, photo of her, like, cringing, like, in front of those Nazis. Like, you see? Oh, Lenny Riefenstahl? No, she's a... And you're like, nah, okay. She's a straight-up girl boss.
Starting point is 01:08:44 But people do use her to be like, look, a woman director. And it's like, she's a Nazi, y'all. Don't be the person who sells out to the Nazis. It's like, girl boss. Girl bossin'. Also, Time for the Will is just boring. They show it in film school a lot, but it's boring and it sucks. Much like I imagine Roe v. Wade, the movie to be.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Right. They just had like a bunch of slow motion images of people and they were like slow motion and their brains exploded. And that was, yeah. But yeah, so our writer, Jay Emick, describes it as like an Expendables movie, but instead of old action stars, it's real life dirt bags and then cameos featuring like Tommy Lauren, Mike Lindell, Roger Stone, Milo, Milo Yiannopoulos.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I'm sad that Steve Guttenberg's in this. I wanted better. Yeah, that is me too. Wait, is he really in it? Yeah. What the,
Starting point is 01:09:40 I mean, whatever. What are you going to do? Did the stone cutters get him that gig? Simpsons episode? Yes. I don't know that reference. Because they said who, like, there's a joke about who gives Steve Guttenberg a career.
Starting point is 01:09:53 We do. We do. Remember that one? Who rakes every Oscar night. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Sorry. I'm old. Gotta go. Anyways, they never paid most of the actors. It's a complete nightmare. And I'm sure right-wing people will be pushing it as the next great film. Kind of gotta see it, though, right?
Starting point is 01:10:17 Kind of. I think we do, after all. Outsider film. Yeah. I like to see some of those right-wing outsider films. You know what i do really want to see is steve mnuchin's wife's movie yeah i hear that is bonkers wait which one's her was she got cruella deville got a movie yeah yeah yeah she made a movie about like a like being a
Starting point is 01:10:38 sexy mysterious lady it's like american psycho but she's like mixed with joy, I guess, like where she's a type A personality. But it's like American Psycho if it was written by somebody who didn't know that Patrick Bateman was supposed to be bad in that. It's called Me, You, Madness. Yes. Yeah, I actually haven't seen the trailer for that did you guys I don't it's called me you madness
Starting point is 01:11:10 and she's like a hedge fund it's so ridiculous it's like the most masturbatory thing I've ever seen like knowing that she wrote and directed and stars in it and it's just like funding help from Knowing that she wrote and directed and stars in it.
Starting point is 01:11:28 You think she had any funding help from? No. Her husband was the fucking secretary of the church. What the fuck? I mean, now when you search Steve Mnuchin, you know what comes up? Film producer. Well, I think he's produced some respectable movies along the way no but i mean like i think he's managed to or manage his seo so rather than like you know trump bootthroater he's a film producer steve turner mnuchin is an american investment banker
Starting point is 01:12:01 and film producer who served as the 77th United States Secretary of Treasury. So yeah, number two on the list of reasons you might be looking for Steve's new information on him is, what's his film game like these days? 100%. His vision has always fascinated me.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Wow. So the premise is that she's just like hyper successful and. She's addicted to success. Yeah. And murder. And sex. What?
Starting point is 01:12:33 And it's like all of these like shots basically. Toxic cocktail. She's like in a jazz aerobics bike class with glowy aesthetic. It's just all over the place. It's really... We're going to watch it. Yeah. For next year's 420 episode, we should just
Starting point is 01:12:52 watch a movie instead of... Just be so bummed out. Just be really bummed out. Well, Molly, it's been a pleasure as always having you. Thanks so much. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you? You can find me at Molly Lambert on Twitter, Molly underscore Lambert on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:13:27 off podcast and twitch show with anna hosnia every tuesday night on twitch.tv forward slash deckheads pod uh at 7 30 p.m on tuesday nights and then you can watch it whenever boom boom yeah and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying i enjoy all the national park instagrams a lot as the world reopens a little bit and we can maybe do things again I want to go to some national parks what's a new national park that you're like oh I see you
Starting point is 01:13:56 there's one that's like Big Bend I think it's Oregon they all look really cool isn't Bend Oregon also the site of the last blockbuster in America It's Oregon. Okay, in Bend, Oregon. It looks really cool. They all look really cool. Isn't Bend, Oregon also the site of the last blockbuster in America? Well, we got to go. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:14:12 There it is. There it is. Come on. Making a trip. The edge of society. Bend, Oregon. We're going to start our 1999 commune. Right. Exactly there.
Starting point is 01:14:23 My idea for a pre-Y2k commune where technology ends at 1999 and uh everything's good i just want to do a dance night like at you know one of these clubs in la that's called september 10th 2001 i love it it's all new metal my uh my worldview is so post 9-11 though i don't know if i'd be able to like get down you know people always say that about me but i'm like uh intensely post post night miles where can people find you with tweet twitter instagram at miles and gray also the other podcast 420 day fiance and what better day than today tuesday to go look at us for 20 day fiance 420 i don't know it was a twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance everybody's on now let's see some tweets that i like first tweet i like is from at mina lioness it says it's a photo
Starting point is 01:15:21 of this woman was just like their mouth agape was just like huh and the tweet says babies born during the lockdown realizing more than seven people exist in the world oh yeah i hear that all the time from people with younger kids like they can see the difference some of their kids who have just been babies without a year of like very minimal new people coming by and things like that so So yeah, I get that. I get the, I see the baby struggle of new faces, new places.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Um, three-year-old, uh, over the, speaking of babies, my three-year-old over the weekend, we were at a like little park area playing around a box, like just this wooden box.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And this baby like kind of was holding itself up. And I was like, Oh, this baby is so cute. And my three-year-old said uh and i quote that baby is not cute that baby is disgusting uh in like within earshot of the parents he's never said disgusting before i don't know he like overheard me say it about food or something um so he's got a lot to learn about being around strangers or just the existence
Starting point is 01:16:27 baby is disgusting that baby's not cute that baby is disgusting easy easy i was like yo that's worse than saying yo that baby's a fucking herb like yeah that's somehow saying disgusting describing a baby is disgusting is so aggressive wow baby universe brain yeah galaxy brain what sorry i interrupted you you were gonna do another one oh shit i got so i got so blown away by that baby is disgusting yeah it completely threw me off another one's from jeffrey right uh it's a clip about this woman who is outside just on some like anti-mask karen covid shit it's like i'm a christian woman i don't need to do anything and then out of nowhere the cops just have they're just like okay you have to leave now and like they're trying to usher out and but his thing is she was talking about the cdc but as
Starting point is 01:17:17 soon as she says it apparently that's when like they're like okay we're off this like you need to leave he says she was just about to drop some cdc knowledge damn uh because it really felt like that's where that clip is going and then the last one uh from kev chestnut it's actually from a quote tweeting from at brother hq saying one year ago today sports fans finally had something uh to watch as the last dance premiered on espn what was the best thing you learned from the temp part doc and he just put a picture of michael jordan going and i took that personally uh because i do feel that may be the maybe the thing that left vindictiveness is the greatest force in yeah yeah yeah see a tweet i've been enjoying uh whitmer
Starting point is 01:17:59 thomas tweeted this like psa drawing of like it i i had seen it before it's like a pregnant woman and you can see the baby in her belly and she's smoking a cigarette and then like to make the point that whatever you do to your own body it's happening to the baby in her belly the baby's also smoking a cigarette and then there's another one with a pregnant mom drinking a beer and in her belly, the baby's drinking a beer. And he tweeted, is this a thing about how coolness runs in the family? Uh,
Starting point is 01:18:34 which is just a perfect seventh grade, uh, health class, uh, comment. Anyways, uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:18:44 You can find us on Twitter at daily zeit o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might want to check out miles what song are we recommending today uh this is a remix by madlib from uh the madlib invades blue note album and it's a remix of stormy uh you know a lot of people know the song but it's the morgan adams quartet plus two but you know flipped flipped with just the skill and the mastery of Mad Lib. And it's really great.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Just some old, you know, head nod. Boom, bap. There you go. I love a flippant song. Love it a flippant. Yes, indeed. Almost as much as I love when there's like when a song skips and someone yells remix. Out really loud.
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