The Daily Zeitgeist - HudsTrend Hawke 6/24: Roe v. Wade, Monkeypox, Stacy Abrams, Elvis

Episode Date: June 24, 2022

In this edition of HudsTrend Hawke, Jack and Miles discuss the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade, it's sweeping implications and the media's reaction to it, the Monkeypox epidemic, Stacy Abrams th...inking ACAB means "All Cops Are Broke", and the new Elvis movie! Abortion Funds in every stateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Hudson's Trend Hawk. That is from the Discord, courtesy of... Oh, courtesy of... KevBot. KevBot. Shout out to KevBot for the short show title from my favorite genre of films as a 12-year-old, Bruce Willis movies. What's Hudson Hawk about, though?
Starting point is 00:02:22 Hudson Hawk is about Bruceis uh as a cat burglar who times his various exploits his homie partner in crime from way back as danny aiello they're like a duo of cat burglars and like they time their operations by singing old standards so um they'll be like going through a building that they're trying to sneak through but like singing to themselves because it was it was just it is i think the peak of bruce willis that is most you know like powerful and like able to do whatever he wants wait so this movie's shitty or is good oh it's bad like it's famously bad but i deeply enjoyed it when I was a young person. Yeah. All right. Put it on the list.
Starting point is 00:03:06 All right. Well, I am Jack. That is Miles. It is dark days. Roe has been overturned by the Supreme Court. And yeah, so that is mainly what people are talking about. It looks like protests is trending. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I mean, Dick's Sporting Goods trending um because apparently we got to find a pro corporate spin on this so let's go with here the corporations who will pay their employees uh to travel to get an abortion um so that's that's one way to take it like big up to this place that yeah i mean yeah probably it's shit it's definitely more better than the alternative fucking doing yeah but yeah low bar low bar for uh for corporation to treat people like humans yeah and yeah i mean like just everything everything that's trending is around people's outrage about people blaming susan sarandon about people blaming burn like there's all kinds of oh really oh my goodness the crossfire on big d twitter and left twitter cool you know a lot of people pointing out that like uh nancy pelosi was
Starting point is 00:04:13 just spending like burning her wheels spinning her wheels defending henry cuyar in texas who barely won his primary by like around 300 votes and he's a you know uh pro-forced birth democrat and we're like what about what about in the party that's there right now what what is happening there but i mean i'm curious what the real response is going to be from democrats because you know based on my math they had about a month and 20 days to figure out what the plan is here nancy pelosi had that poem on deck um joe mansion is what did he say he was disturbed i think no her him and like susan collins was like well that's not what they told me it's like no shit right that's the point you're you're so you're such a fucking rube that you're like yep hook line and sinker got it sure they said
Starting point is 00:05:07 it they said it was settled one of the first fucking things they went after and i i don't know it's just really fucking bleak looking at just everything that's happening with the supreme court saying like well states don't have the right to assert like any kind of gun control laws or anything like that that's that's not their right but then also but the states can decide who can do what with their own body right it's just a very very baton like the Miranda
Starting point is 00:05:33 rights being like basically like police have total immunity even if they don't inform you of your rights and then use that to possibly public funding for religious schools to gut funding for public schools yeah yeah we're like they straight up you know as as lame and outdated as the reference to that uh hulu show is like a handmaid's tale like that truly feels like they're just like yeah no but that is kind
Starting point is 00:06:01 of what we have in mind it's just just fucking upsetting because, you know, like the people that you got people like Nancy Pelosi who read a poem, right? Because nobody in Nancy Pelosi's family is going to have trouble getting access to an abortion. Yeah. What about all the people that are struggling with their income that are like people of color? There's some like this really affects a very specific group of people. color there's so like this really affects a very specific group of people unfortunately the represent representation in congress is of people who know not about the urgency of this threat and those people basically don't exist for them yeah it breaks my fucking spirit like it's man i'm anyway so um one kind of specific story that's uh people are pointing out is the period tracker apps, period tracking apps, like the data collected in those apps could potentially be weaponized by law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:06:56 That's never happened. Has law enforcement ever weaponized your data to hold you accountable for your getting an abortion? Yeah, they actually have. Amazingly that's already um so a woman in indiana was sentenced to 20 years in prison um for inducing her own abortion uh the evidence against her included text messages with her friend which you know they have to get access to, which you would think would be a private thing. In 2018, a woman was indicted by a Mississippi grand jury for second-degree murder in a case in which prosecutors used her search history, including searches for abortion pills, as evidence. Lawmakers have been lobbying to make sure tech companies like Google amend their data
Starting point is 00:07:42 collection policies in order to better protect people's's information in a post-row era but you know that's it's not something that's going to be well covered by the corporate media and yeah it's just it's the this is like the dark world that we we live in now it's not and now they're fully being like oh yeah we'll come after contraception we'll come after fucking everything like yeah we don't this is what this is what we're about uh and yeah and in the chat is saying you know don't even tell your doctor when your last period was right because you know it's this is the situation we're in where you can't even now you're looking at a situation like uh you're looking at your life and saying i can't go to a health care professional and be honest about what is happening in my body because they might be collaborating with law enforcement because I'm in a state that's trying to go after people.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And they might just create a dragnet to find people they suspect of having an abortion. Yeah. And with regards to the tech industry, there's good reason to be skeptical that they will ever change their practices to better protect people since Google is already hugely fucking up in this area. to clinics known as pregnancy crisis centers that do not actually provide care and actually provide religious extremism. 37% of Google map searches led to fake clinics, which is pretty, that's a lot. Yeah, it sounds like Google is trash just even as a search engine, yeah it sounds like google's trash just even as a search engine like not even for what they're doing but it's i mean this is it's wild to just watch how the full court press of corporations the government and all these things can suddenly put you in a place where before it's like yeah you know we'll sell your information to like another company is trying to figure out if you might be in the market for 18-inch rims.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Right. But now, based on how some of these laws can be written, someone might be like, oh, with this information, I might be able to be an abortion bounty hunter. Yeah. In other countries, there are groups that have power that are looking out for consumers and individuals. And that just isn't the case, or at least it's not functionally the case in the US because so much of the power and decision
Starting point is 00:10:12 making is tied up in by, you know, billionaires and corporations. Yeah, well, we'll also put a link to like a sort of a guide to different like local like state abortion access funds and things like that to donate to if you know Planned Parenthood is very well funded as many people have pointed out and there are much like many more local organizations to help support abortion access like not just here but also like Guam and Puerto Rico as well all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back I'm Jess Casetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
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Starting point is 00:13:57 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so Monkeypox is continuing to be a story and actually a problem in communities in now the u.s it is not a global pandemic the way that people were reporting or fearing it would be at first um but it is affecting gay and bisexual men and uh the cdc is telling people to just go with abstinence yeah it's really wild like this is in a period where people like it's pride people are yearning for human like contact connection and they're like
Starting point is 00:14:53 hey man just fucking don't really you know just don't have sex how about that um and it's it's like really i don't know like we're looking at again most people are saying we have a smallpox vaccine that's about 85 effective would be really fantastic for anybody who is could be exposed to monkeypox and there's a way to roll this out but we've seen anecdotally like in new york they said hey if uh like if you had multiple sexual partners that were having a clinic for you to get uh like a smallpox vaccine they that shit filled up so quick and they ran out of doses that now people are like uh we need a lot more doses of this vaccine and it just feels like another moment where you know it's easy to just ignore the like an outbreak of a disease
Starting point is 00:15:41 or virus because it's in like a marginal community and just you know let's keep that moving but yeah it is another uh pretty like it's a pretty severe issue that we're dealing with and right now the world health organization is trying to determine if they do declare that this a global health emergency just to increase the awareness around this yeah um living wage is trending stacy abrams uh has been tweeting out some very questionable shit uh specifically saying we need to pay police a living wage which is i don't know that seems like not the, uh, she didn't tweet this like this morning, but, uh, she tweeted it in the past couple of days and it's,
Starting point is 00:16:30 does not seem, seem like the, uh, issue that, that needs to be addressed right now in the United States. The tweet law enforcement are often paid less than a living wage. And that is wrong. We must raise pay for officers
Starting point is 00:16:45 and address violent crime as we work to build community trust and foster law enforcement accountability. Right. Wow, that's big. I'm running for governor energy. You suddenly just almost scratched my damn head off.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I'm like, well, hold on. Police a living wage? This is a six-figure income. Yeah. Police make more money than fucking most of us do like in la there it was just wild in response to that tweet a lot of people were read quote tweeting it with like the police officers that had like you know uh like assaulted them like by shooting them with a beanbag gun or beating them up or something and then listing like and this person makes 245 000 a year right yeah this seems like it was a tweet written by the police union
Starting point is 00:17:29 like that was just you know part of the trading that happens with like you know you get to a certain level you can't be out here talking like a cab vote for me for governor right you know what i mean like there's there's clearly that line and we're starting to see it when you're and people have like tried to comb through the tweets and like is this the first time you even use the word living wage and it's a relation to the police yeah i don't know how i knocked that one out i'm killing two birds with one stone i'm talking about a living wage and i'm you know and you know the legend matter anyway so i i get i can't be you can't be surprised by anybody running for like you know office that high especially in like not a blue state because even blue state candidates aren't out here saying shit like yeah you know if anything
Starting point is 00:18:17 they do like we we honor our law enforcement uh people or whatever yeah but this is the party like literally the party line of the Biden administration that we need to fund both things. It's like, well, one of the things is sabotaging our ability to have an equal society where people don't live in fear of
Starting point is 00:18:38 violence and that isn't actively sabotaging communities and families. So funding that is actually not you can't fund both things because one of those things is dismantling like social services and like the goals that we're trying to accomplish with the social services and uh one thing is proven to do fuck all right like yeah over and over again you need a study i think we've had it but we got the studies about 100 years worth of data that says i don't think the police keep people safe
Starting point is 00:19:12 yeah so maybe that's the next conversation but again oh man overcoming the status quo here in this country takes a lot a lot of people yep and finally uh finally, we had an outing with some of the LA podcast studio to go see Elvis last night. The new Baz Luhrmann movie. The main takeaway for me is how weird Tom Hanks' character is. It's very strange. Yo, the movie. Look, you've heard us talk about like that one clip right and that was enough to be like we gotta see this bullshit because it seems
Starting point is 00:19:53 so over the top the the clip in question is uh his first performance where he starts like making people's brains melt by flicking his penis in their direction and the sound effect is wow wow while he's just like slamming his penis in their direction that it's actually better
Starting point is 00:20:16 in the movie and like yeah producer Anna pointed out it the word is thrusting he is thrusting his penis he's not flicking it uh but i don't know uh clearly you're more of a flicker and not more of a flicker clearly uh but elvis don't don't flick he thrusts um he thrusts he's horny and i think the best performances in that scene came from like the the actors who were playing
Starting point is 00:20:45 the like like about to lose my shit women in the audience because there was even one where a guy like falls back and starts having a seizure it was interesting um yeah like one of the one of the screams that the women made when he like was you know fucking wiggling his shit her way it's like the tony collette meme of her screaming yeah like that level of like energy was in and i was like damn like give these people a fucking award like i could feel i could feel the hysteria take over the people who had gotten a taste of forbidden fruit or whatever however tom hanks is weird warner verner he talks like warner herzog he's supposed to be a con man who's pretending he's from west virginia but i think this is where lerman takes liberties right and he's trying to say this guy was so sloppy like he's like we see
Starting point is 00:21:36 through his shit or something i don't know if that's the subtext it does not because he's like a bad guy all the way through just keeps doing bad things no real arc accent choice like he he has a thick accent and at one point a politician investigates him and is like and we've discovered you're not from west virginia and he's like oh no they found out it's like west virginia he sounds like he's like from germany or like sweden or i i guess he's from the Netherlands, but like you go watch an interview, like after you watch the movie, go watch an interview with the guy.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And he, he talks like a, like with, with no accent at all. They're very baffling stuff from Tom Hanks. Um, they, so they keep manufacturing stuffy old white guys to like harumph in the
Starting point is 00:22:23 background, uh, of his performances so at first it's like true like people being like this my my daughter is out of control like we must not we must not allow this but like at a certain point they like start making up these stories where like his he's supposed to be like selling uh fucking sweaters and like the guy's like i just want him to like play an acoustic guitar and a sweater and sing here comes santa claus and then he like performs his hits and everyone's like
Starting point is 00:22:52 oh and like they just have to keep like making up these people like that's the only gear that the movie has it's this is also made for people who have no idea what cultural appropriation is yes i'll say that because Because famously, Elvis Presley was doing black music. Yes. And that was the thing. And they mentioned that thing. It's like, man, when I have these Negroes on my records, nobody buys them until I got this white boy singing the Negro songs.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And now everybody likes it. Even the Negroes, as they say that line over and over and shit there's this scene right where they show young elvis like going to like a revival church like in a tent and shit and he's people are you know they're they're singing and they're worshiping and he goes in and suddenly he catches the fucking spirit and like it's meant to be this like very transformative scene like fucking avatar or some shit. Yeah. He became Avatar in that moment because he was exalted by the ethnic people to carry on the mantle of their cultural contributions
Starting point is 00:23:54 or some shit. And that's how they sort of present his intersection with black culture. And I was like, this is very inaccurate. Priscilla too? That was interesting too. too priscilla who is 14 when they meet they're like a pretty young teenager like they don't they don't say a fucking child right um he like they they yeah they make him seem like like they make it seem like he and bb king were friends. And like, in fact, they like met one time there's a scene where he sees a little richer perform. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:24:29 man, that guy should be more famous than me. And, uh, BB King's like, there's no way because you're white. And like, that's what people like about you.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You can sing that song. Right. And then they do nothing with that. There's nothing. Yeah. Absolutely nothing. Um um did you notice the pepsi versus coke thing actually so miles uh full transparency you had to leave early i left it yeah i left with about 40 minutes to go i think because it is about two and a half hours so it's
Starting point is 00:24:58 taking place in the south they they keep like pepsi keeps coming up he keeps drinking pepsi at one point he's like nervous and they're like here drink this pepsi it'll make your stomach it'll calm your stomach and the whole time i'm like oh well it must be like a thing where like they just sold the rights to pepsi and like it was really cooked because it's the south and like it's the 50s like so pepsi when he's young and like doing well at the end of his life like the only time that we see elvis in a fat suit performing and he looks like he's dead, like he has to be like carried around. He has like paper cups of Coke on the piano.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I was like, hmm. Hmm. Okay. Okay, so you were seeing some brand war shit. I'm seeing some brand war shit for sure. All right, all right. Yeah, I didn't get to that part, but. There's some of the
Starting point is 00:25:45 fun like weirdness like he mouth kisses his fans in vegas like the after his vegas shows he full on like kisses his fans on the mouth like repeatedly like every one of them um like passionate deep kisses but like there's stuff that like his uh memphis mafia stuff that his Memphis Mafia stuff, his crew that he traveled around with that just gassed him up and let him believe whatever was going on in his head. He just kind of stays this sweet, naive person. They don't really... He was a drug-addled maniac. They don't have the Nixon meeting.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Do you know the story of the Nixon meeting? Oh, yeah, yeah. We gave him the gun. He showed up high out of his mind in a cape with a gold handgun to give to the president uh at the white house showed up and asked nixon to make him the america's drug czar yeah which wasn't wasn't a thing but he was like i'll drop the dime on like the beatles and all these hippies who do illegal drugs uh i i only do drugs that are prescribed to me by like the doctor friend who just enables my my drug addiction right but like he his life got a lot weirder and um in in the hands of a different filmmaker i feel feel like it would have... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:06 It's a fucking fever dream. It is a fever dream. So, you know, I don't... Now, would I say, should you go out and spend your hard-earned money to go see it? That's up to you. But I will say, if you don't mind watching something that could make your eyes roll completely back into your head... And it's kind of fun because it's so bad i guess but yeah buyer like the performance by uh austin whatever like is pretty good like i it's the most of any elvis content i've ever like consumed in a given moment and i like came away being like all right
Starting point is 00:27:40 i get i get why people the lighter data a lighter data set. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, that is Elvis. It's worth seeing if you're not expecting like a traditionally good time. I was both enjoying myself and also ready for it to be over about halfway through. Yeah. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Well, those are the things that are trending on this friday afternoon we are back on monday with the whole last episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves yep you know go find out what protests are happening near you find out mutual aid networks uh you know support each other because the fucking government and the corporate media are not going to do it for you. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all on Monday. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.
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Starting point is 00:29:14 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
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Starting point is 00:30:08 or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because
Starting point is 00:30:26 of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect
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