The Daily Zeitgeist - Human Rights ARE NOT Culture Wars! 11.26.24

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

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Everything about this press tour, there's that one where the other person on the red carpet was like, I met my partner through like a Ariana Grande fan. And she's like, what the hell? Oh, Ariana Grande. Yeah, dude, the way her face like she goes, the fuck? Like her reaction was like, oh damn. She looked concerned. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

The power. The power. The power was random. I wonder if there's ever been people who met via the zeitgeist. I doubt it. Probably not, right? I met all of you through the zeitgeist. Hey, there we go.

But have we launched any relationships? Me and my boyfriend met through... This is so funny. Me and my boyfriend met through ComeTown. Really? Nice. Yeah. We met at an Adam Friedland stand-up show. That was like always for the first time.

That's so funny. I know. Yeah. And then he messaged me on a dating app and I was like, I saw you at the Adam Friedland show. I was like, oh, he's got, yeah. I was like, oh, well, he's got to be an absolute freak. So we should absolutely go on a date. Not only to be there, but then to use that as the opening line.

I know. Yeah. It was just funny because anyone who's going to open with that, it's like, okay, well, we've already got like one very freak ass thing in common between us. So this should go well. We've been together for three years. So I saw you in downtown, come town city center of come town. Little lady, I want to take you to come town at the union protest outside of come town city hall. We were, we were both in the picket line together.

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American shared consciousness. We now have a YouTube channel, youtube.com slash any time I try and get under the URL at dailypsychicedpod on YouTube. You can go check out me flubbing shit like this that I've had to say dozens of times. Anyways, my name is... It's Tuesday, November 26th, 2024. It's almost Thanksgiving, man. I'm at... Got one foot out the door. So, yeah, this is the level of effort and execution you can expect from me. Are you regressing because you're at your parents' house too? Yes, exactly.

My mom's just making food or something. I've been sucking my thumb with a blankie in my hand the whole day. I don't want it. Your thumb looks like that. Oh, OK. No, it doesn't look like that. What did you say?

November 26? Is that what we're doing? Yes, sir. Is that what we're saying? That's the day? Well, guess what? It's National Cake Day. So shout out cakes in all kinds of varieties.

Oh, I brought my cake. Hey, let them know. Let them know. It's time to celebrate the yeeks or the baked good. Up to you. Up to you. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA Mashed Potatoes O'Brien. Because it's almost Thanksgiving.

Yeah. And Potatoes O'Brien is a dish that I sometimes go by. That one courtesy of the frequent news ghost and Paul Garaventa on the Discord, a collab-o on that one. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray. Just keeping it real simple.

You know if you're potatoes, O'Brien, I'm miles of gravy gravy because I love the gravy That's how it is again. You already know that PG and the frequent news goes I'm I'm I'm looking forward to the amount of gravy. I'm gonna eat I'm gonna just drink it out of an espresso cup like just little on the side like you know what just happen Another another one. Yep one. Another one. Yep. Yep. Another one. That is what DJ Khaled is referring to. And heart congestion. Yeah. I feel like some people might have been confused how

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Yes. Celebrating the trans experience and having a lot of fun along the way. Please welcome Carmen LaRonde and Janey Danger. Hi, guys. It's Cobbler Laran. Jack, you were kind of channeling like an auction crier at the beginning there. November 26th. November 26th.

That's a great one. That's apparently a very coveted skill that you to like go to school to learn how to do. I bet like a fast like Buster Rhymes could probably be good at it. Oh yeah. You ain't talking about nothing. You ain't talking about nothing. You ain't talking about nothing. Maybe now that there's no like space for them in popular music scene, because of all the freaking

mumble rap, maybe they're all working as auction cryers. Busta is so hard to process in the year of Our Lord's 2024. He did a video recently on his social media where he was clearly just somewhere where there was a parked helicopter and he had like an empty suitcase and he like hopped off the rail and was like, yo, I just got off the helicopter. And you're like, nothing's moving. The door is shut and locked, bro.

And you can tell that case is so light. I'm like, why are we still doing this? Why are we pretending? It's not his helicopter. He's not allowed to be on that helicopter. No, no, no. Security is being dispatched immediately. He's like the to be on that hell of a path. No, no, no. Security is being dispatched immediately. He's like, he's the one security guard. Good thing I can talk quickly.

Bro, I love your album, Extinction Level Event, bro. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. You can hop on there, man. There's like a guy. I'm a manager. There's like a guy in a control center like, yo, yeah, it's Buster Rhymes. You gotta stop him.

Like, it's Buster Rhymes again. No, I'm sure it's him. Like, yeah. Yeah. This is someuster Rhymes. You've got to stop it. Like, it's Buster Rhymes again. I'm sure it's him. Like, yeah. Multiple incidences now. All the helipads across New York City just have pictures of Buster Rhymes. He's addicted. He's just hopping off. Yeah, he's always got to have a duffel on him just to pretend if you want to stunt.

Like, oh, there's a park limousine. Let me pretend I got out. Hey, what's up? Just got out the limo. Do you have anything after the preamble? Or was it just like, hey, you know, it's a park limousine. Let me pretend I got out. Hey, what's up? Just got out the limo. Do you have anything after the preamble? Was it just like, hey, you know, it's me. I forget what happened. I think just off this helicopter. Everyone just kind of was so bummed out by the action of just jumping out of like pretend. You could almost feel like the camera guy going like and go.

You know what I mean? Just had that full. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just it was so janky that, yeah, everyone just is bummed out, didn't even hear the words. So, yeah, anyway. Aw. We're busted. Anyways, helicopters are crazy, right? That's what he says.

And I was just all in one. Yeah. Can't believe those things can fly. Anyways, Carmen, Janie, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you both a little bit better in a moment. First, a few of the things that we're going to be talking about today. We're going to be talking about, we're going to just continue to take a little peek into how the Democrats are doing. Have they learned anything yet from this past election? Are they learning the right things? You'll be completely unsurprised by the answer. And we'll of course talk about Ebenezer Scrooge's grave being

desecrated. Wait, he was a real person? Yeah, I was just about to say. What? I didn't even know it either. Yeah. No, he was not a real person. What? Next time you tell me that. I needed that to be real. Next time you tell me he was Scrooge McDuck.

Yeah, yeah. Scrooge McDuck was a real person. He actually jumped on the chair. He jumped on the chair. He jumped on the chair. He jumped on the chair. He jumped on the chair. He jumped on the chair. He jumped on the chair. I needed that to be real. I got Scrooge McDuck. Yeah, yeah. Scrooge McDuck was a real person. He actually jumped into the coins from too high up and just fucking broke his neck.

Yeah. Red Mist. There was another trans Scrooge McDuck who swam through the coins faster. That's right. It was a big scandal. They couldn't help that. She had to get banned from a trans money-surfing sport. Using elections for us, trans Scrooge McDuck. All right, before we get to any of that bullshit,

we do like to ask our guests, Carmen, Janey, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Carmen, I will start with you. Oh, thank God. Okay. My search history this week is actually quite boring. And normally I'm searching some cool shit.

But I just had three weeks ago, I'm going to talk about it, am I underrated? I just had a full FFS on my face, facial feminization surgery. And I don't like to Google these things before. I mean, I do. I still do. I just't like to Google these things before. I mean, I do, I still do. I just forget about them. I forget about them. I like to go in cold.

But now that I've had everything done, I'm like Googling each of the procedures. I like to read the surgery notes that are in like my MyChart app. And I also like to Google things to figure out what is what. And I'm just looking at diagrams of like endoscopic brow lifts,

type three forehead reconstruction, open rhinoplasty. I'm like really obsessed with what they were doing to me while I was under. You look amazing. Congratulations. Thank you. I can't believe it's three weeks later. That's wild. Yeah. I never looked that bad actually. It was all thanks to pineapple juice and arnica. So drink your pineapple juice, take your arnica. Wait, what does pineapple juice do?

Drink your pineapple juice. It does not make your cum taste better. No, it kind of does. It is. I'm a truther about this. The bromelain. I knew pineapple juice come through there. Carmen just hates pineapple juice.

She just hates pineapples. Oh really? It does make it taste better. I love pineapples. Oh, really? It does make it taste better. The only thing that makes your cum taste better is a beef bourguignon. Boo-yan cubes. Oh, my God. No, the bromelain is supposed to help with bruising and swelling as well as the arnica. So I like did a double whammy.

Wow. Okay. Yeah. And I was only bruised for about a week. So I'm pretty good. Amazing. Oh, is that the, where'd you get that cup from? That looked like a hospital. Oh, this is from my, this is my little souvenir I stole from the hospital, Emory University.

Yeah, I was gonna say, that's like, I love a hospital ice cup. Big, giant. Ice chips. That cup was designed to hold ice chips. Yes. So yeah, I took it with me. Shout out to Emory. They really got me together.

Those ice chips are quite nice. I gotta say. Yeah. That would be good for like bartend. Like making like a mint julep. Like something that needs like, nice like crumbly ice. Yeah.

Right. You can get it inumbly ice. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You can have it in the hospital cup. Yeah. You call it the hospital. I'm gonna walk around the hospital drinking a mint julep like I'm at the Kentucky Derby. I'm like betting on who's gonna die.

Like standing outside a hospital room, like, like whiffing myself with like a, like a brochure. Yeah. Come on, he's beeping. Yeah. Right. He's flature. Come on. He's beeping. He's flatlining. Come on. They saved somebody's life. They're out there throwing the tip sheet

onto the ground. Stop the count. Keeping the nurses from going in there like no I got a lot of money on this. James, what's something from your search history? Oh, you know, my search history was kind of boring. That's always funny.

It's like always like the same kind of like looking up like, I don't know, like how to find like an item in Dark Souls or something. But like something kind of interesting. I don't know if I want to go too far into it because it's a lot and it's insane. But you mentioned the like, since Ariana Grande has been like in the news so much lately, it reminded me of this like very strange coincidence. If you Google the words, death grips, like the bands death grips,

like the experimental rap trio and Ariana Grande, there's a lot of insane like- Mashups? No, maybe, maybe there's that. No, it's a lot of insane like. Mashups? Maybe, maybe there's that. No, it's darker than that. It's like a numerological, like there's this very insane correlation between the band Death Grips releasing their album Steroids

and the like bombing that happened and at a Manchester Manchester Ariana Grande concert where the album was released on 5-22-17 and its length is 22 minutes and 31 seconds and the bombing occurred on... Really? Wow, what do you have to do with it? Where were you?

Carmen's in Los Angeles. She's like, I was at home listening to that group. She's compromised. I fucking told you. I told Janie, what did I tell you? I'm sorry. I should have just talked about how to find the symbol of avarice in Dark Souls 1. There you go.

There you go. That's why. This one goes too deep. I grab it. The amount of things I'm seeing on Reddit already, I'm like, oh. Yeah, are you looking it up? It is like, I don't know. It's not, I don't like, I don't know. It's not, I don't like,

I was thinking about this earlier this week with the, did y'all talk about the Joe Rogan believes in dragons kind of story that happened? No. No? So it was like a thing on the view where one of those girls said like, Joe Rogan's someone who like believes in dragons.

And I'm not a Joe Rogan fan but the clip they were talking about it kind of caused like a flare-up on like Twitter and stuff and the clip they were talking about was from like 2019 when Joe Rogan was still like a little bit like more on the more light-hearted just like talking about like you know a monkey's really strong you can rip your face off. Yeah it's like a it's like a hypothetical like what if like dragons were real and like it's just a more kind of fun conspiracy. It's a thing that makes you go hmm as opposed to something that like you just like lose your mind and you know end up doing like devastating things

about. So I don't know. I just thought, I just think it's a very interesting set of insane coincidences that... It's interesting. I don't know. But... That's interesting. That's interesting. Just asking some questions. I don't know how to describe that as anything other than... Interesting. Yeah. If there's any Death Grips fans as listeners, I bet they would...

They're probably a little weird as it is. They'll probably get a little bit of a hmm out of this, or they'll lose their mind, or they'll be like, this is talking directly to me. There's a very specific group of people who were arguing that Kendrick Lamar and Father John Misty are somehow cosmically linked because they always drop albums at the same time.

That is very weird. Like accidentally supposedly. That is really, really weird. Yeah, especially with this new one because no one knew this Kendrick Lamar album was coming out. Fucking Father John Misty. Except for Josh Tillman. Maybe he did.

Maybe he did. I haven't paid attention to Father John Misty in a while, but I do like the new album. It's very pretty. You play the Kendrick Lamar album backwards and it's just the Father John Misty. It's just Father John Misty in a while, but I do like the new album. It's very pretty. You play the Kendra Lamar album backwards and it's just the father. It's just Father John Misty. It's Hollywood forever. Another fun one like that is the David Bowie, Kanye West one. Do you guys know about that?

I don't know. If you look at the cover of Ziggy Stardust. Yes, it says West. Yeah, the street he's standing on is K West. Oh, I do remember this. Oh, yeah, yeah. The story's kind of like that the person that Ziggy Stardust, or the person that David Bowie's singing about,

who's like a rock star, who comes down to save the world and is like a genre defining artist is Kanye West. I feel like we can probably put that one to bed. But everything about that checks out. Unless what David Bowie meant was that like, he's going to become like an evil Hitlerian figure, which maybe can restore balance to the force. You know, and it can make the trains run on time. Thank you.

Yeah. I'm just saying. Don't sleep on it. Kanye West is the savior of humanity. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's doing great things for doing nitrous. I mean, it's the best thing that we've heard.

Oh, God. So, yeah. I don't know. I don't know if the, unless the Star Man, was it in the lyrics that he would just be off Nas all the time Yeah, I think so. I think that you hear that in suffragists. I do right Yeah, I think that's what we talked about this like does Nas have a mute not Nas The rapper but like Nas the drink does it have like a musical? aesthetic like the way that you know like psychedelic rock has the only people

that I knew who drank NOS were people that like just got out of rehab like we're talking about nitrous oxide. Nitrous oxide. I thought you were talking about NOS the energy drink. No, not the other NOS. Dude there's so many ways to talk about NOS. Almost definitely a reference to... I think that the energy drink, I could be wrong on this, but I think it's brewed with nitrous, like Guinness, sort of. Oh, right.

Wow. I could be wrong on that, but it might be. I don't know. Nitrous is having a moment though because like galaxy gas, which is like a legal way to do it. And it's very weird. Like, even... Is that gas station nitrous? Yeah.

I don't know how much I've talked about my like junky past, but like like a long time ago, I was very different that person. And even when I was like doing like heroin and shit, I would see people like huffing things. I'd be like, oh, no, that can kill you, brother. You guys are crazy. I see off the names right now. I don't know about that.

Something about inhaling something. I don't know. I'd have like an old big giant balloon. You're like, you use the same balloon over and over again. I don't know. Maybe just because I'm asthmatic and I'm afraid that like if I breathe something in for too long, it's like, oh, it's game over.

Instantly, I can't breathe that hard. I mean, if you said for an actual sound, in for too long, it's like, oh, it's game over instantly. I can't breathe that hard. I mean, if you said for an actual sound, the closest I would say is like there is a tame Impala track called Nangs, which that's like slang for nitrous oxide. And the sound is like, there's like a sort of robbing. Yeah, like wobbly keyboard in it that I mean, yeah, that sort of replicates the feeling, but I guess I don't know. It's hard to be like, yeah, that sort of replicates the feeling. But I guess, I don't know, it's hard to be like, dude, you can tell they're so artistic

because of the names. There's also the new Lil Uzi Vert album where allegedly there's a song where he rips a Galaxy Gas rip in the middle of the song. Oh, God. Even amongst Uzi Vert fans, people don't like it. People are not there for happy. It's bad after that. Yeah, it's not a thing I associate with productivity

of any sort, including artistic. Yeah, it doesn't even. I've always been a skeptic when people are like, oh, the Beatles made good albums because of psychedelics. It's like, no, they made good albums because they were creative. They're kind of just like good at writing songs. Yeah, that's not that's not how you can take all the psychedelics you want. It's not going to make you make Abbey Road.

Like, yeah, I can point you in the direction of some people who are cooked off acid. Yeah, absolutely. You can put a keyboard in front of them and they ain't doing shit. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I know. I couldn't imagine nitrous doing any better. No, I mean, because if you think about it, at least like with psychedelics, we were like, I can kind of see I'm looking at things.

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Yeah. Uh, okay. So this is another, another one I've just been kind of thinking about a lot lately. So this is another one I've just been kind of thinking about a lot lately, as we like further like descend into like horrific fascism. But I really hate these people. I really hate like the world right now. I really hate a lot of things. But one thing that is really kind of like just sticking with me, that has stuck with me like since the election is seeing all of these like tasteless losers like gloating and being happy.

And, you know, not I would never by any means hand it to the Nazis. But the Italians had some style, you know, they had some swag, you know, in fact, I think if I remember my history correctly, they were only in it for the suits. And those people, like seeing these motherfuckers like be like, oh my God, church is so aesthetic to go into like having a family is so base like all these like boring, just boring signifiers of like white Protestant Christianity and touting it as this like aesthetic standard of like beauty. It's like, what happened to taste? Like what happened to like, I don't know, like I seem to maybe like I'm retconning this in my mind, but like I seem to remember, like, evil fascists had some form of like, I don't know, like taste, like, like salami.

Like, like they were like, I don't know. Like they were, they had, they had some kind of evil elegance to them. But I guess it's just like distinctly American that like our form of fascism is like, they're making a beef tallow. Come back to McDonald's. It's like, it's so gross to me. It is so- The only moisturizer I use is beef tallow, come back to McDonald's. It's so gross to me. The only moisturizer I use is beef tallow.

Yeah. Eating sticks of butter is actually the healthiest thing you can do. You look like shit. It's just so gross. Maybe we were cool after all, all along because president, because we're in power, the thing that's always cool. Right. I don't understand the thing that's always cool. Right. I don't, I don't understand the theory that they, they're like, we won the, the

guy we like won the presidential election and therefore maybe we were cool. Right. Presidents aren't cool. Yeah. It also ties in with the whole like people like being like the whole kind of push to make Conservatism seem like countercultural seem like punk rock and stuff. It's like yeah Well now you control every chamber of government how fucking punk rock is that right? How rage against the machine is that dude like it's fucking ridiculous like it's just

These people make no good art, no good music, no good nothing. And they get to walk around like they're like the symbols of like aesthetic beauty. I hate it. It makes me so... What are their podcasts? Yeah. I heard somebody bring this up. I forget who it was, but I do like I'm not going to listen, but I want somebody to listen to their podcasts once Trump is in office. They're going to just be like, man, the president is cool. Yeah, what are they going to talk? What are they going to bitch about?

Yeah. Another weird thing is how all these, especially if you're still on Twitter, all of these right-wing accounts, to use like AI which is like I thought you guys were the ones that had like Bronze Age statues that's like your avatars and being like this is like peak like blah blah it's like but now you're all like proudly touting like AI slobs like it's it's ugly every everything is ugly and it, I just hate it. Not that like fascism would be better if it was pretty. So for the record, it would still be horrible.

Sure, sure. But they're not even bothering with that part. Yes. I think that's what is that we're not even bothering with like, yeah, it's just everything's ugly. Everything is a mirror of fat and gross. And I hate it. Yeah.

Like when history books look back on this period of fascism, it's gonna be like, wait, how did they fall for this shit? It looks so awful. I know. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, who made the quote about like, we couldn't like destroy any American cultural landmark because their cultural landmarks are like McDonald's and SpongeBob. You know, right? Yeah.

We spread them out. They're like oxygen. They're all around. Try and take us down. Try and take us down. And isn't that what's cool? Yeah. Yeah.

In the end. Yeah. If they, if they, if we don't get the beef tallow back, the terrorist one. That's right. Right. Exactly. Carmen, what's something you think's underrated? Oh, I think getting your whole face done is so underrated. And this is for assist

people too. If you, if you don't like something about your face, go and see a plastic surgeon baby. Now, granted mine was covered by insurance and it did cost $200,000 for the insurance, not for me. But I got a 10 hour surgery on the day before election day and Janie came and visited me in the hospital, spent the day with me in the hospital, in fact, on election day. And it was just a great time. I love getting surgery.

I love being in the hospital. I, you know, it's great. And I'm three weeks out. You're the one person who had a good election day. I had a horrible election day. Yeah, I will say I was watching from my bed in the hospital and I was like, you know what? This is, this fucking sucks.

And I quickly emailed my other surgeon to schedule my fucking breast augmentation. I was trying to make her feel better too. Like I brought her some soup, like we were hanging out. She was trying to make her feel better too. Like I brought her some soup, like we were hanging out. She was like a little worried about it. I was like, you know, I think it's going to be close. And this was my opinion for a long time.

Like I think it's going to be really close, but I think she'll eke it out at the end. I even had a kind of fun theory in my head that maybe the Democrats would lose the popular vote, but win the electoral college. Obviously, none of this, none of this came to be. But I felt like bad because like I lied to her. I told her everything was going to be okay. And I was just, I don't know. I felt bad because I pay attention to this stuff.

And I like, I mean, not saying saying Carmen doesn't but like all of my People that I knew I was trying to like reassure them like look. I think she'll eek it out. I think it's gonna be okay Yeah, right, and I was not really wrong the can down the road for a couple more years Literally gonna be fine guys Trump was so cool the first time. It was fine. Everything was so dumb. He was so dumb. He couldn't even do nothing.

Oh my God. Late night is about to get so funny. Yeah. Punk rock's about to get another American idiot guys. Like, I, I, I want to say real quick. I spent election night playing a board game called Storm the Capitol with my bandmates. We were supposed to be practicing, but I was like, guys, I'm too distracted.

Can we just play this board game? And it's a board game where you like- Was it made by J6 prisoners? No, it was made by- To support their bail initiative. Yeah, no, it was made by ironic left, like lefty, like podcaster type. It's a very fun board game. I, it was, shouts out to the storm, the capital board game.

You play as like the capital police versus the insurrectionist. Yeah, it's like, it's like an insurrection monopoly mixed with like a magic, the gathering type combat system. It's really fun. So then are you as capital police like faced with like a Magic the Gathering type combat system. It's really fun. So then are you as Capitol Police like faced with like a card? It's like, do you acknowledge your inner inclinations to support these people and look the other way? Or do you do your job?

No, it's more like. Pick it up with Big Alaska. I have like the Capitol Police is like the dungeon master, kinda. And you control like three different police officers. And then everyone else is like the dungeon master kinda and you control like three different police officers and then everyone else is like the insurrectionists and they have to go through flipping desks to find ballots. And once they find enough ballots, they have to get to the great rotunda,

climb onto the roof and go and meet President Trump for his victory. And I'm trying to stop that. And you get like car, there's like event cards where you have to like. Sing the national anthem and its entirety. There's one that's like a fuck Mary kill type thing. The event cards are really fun. It's really fun.

And it's entirety, like with the slavery versus. Uh, I don't know. We don't know about that. I, as the dungeon master, when I did that, I, uh, well, my friend didn't know the national anthem, so I don't think he We don't know about that. As the Dungeon Master, when I did that, I... Well, my friend didn't know the National Anthem, so I don't think he would have known the remix of it either. No, I just feel like that would be the deep cut of that game. It's like, no, the full version of the Star Wars game. Well, if you're playing as Capitol Police,

you have free will to throw in things like that if you want. Right. I feel like it's going to have the same evolution as the game Monopoly where like Monopoly started as a satire of capitalism. And now it's just like, Oh yeah. Yeah. It would be funny seeing conservatives like they're in prison playing. Yeah.

It's going to get bought by Parker Brothers. Yeah, they're like, this ain't nothing like the real thing. What is something, Carmen, that you think is overrated? Well, I don't think it's gonna come to anyone's surprise, but the U.S. The U.S. sucks. I went on... Do what? I left the country for the US sucks. I went on. Do what?

I left the country for the first time in October. I went to Miles' homeland of Japan. I might have to go back with my mom, who knows, based on what Trump does. Yeah, you know what? Do it, because you can buy a really nice house in Japan for not much money, which is pretty great. But I'm a total weeaboo now,

because they fucking blew my mind with the public transportation over there. Yeah. Imagine that every city has inner city transportation on a train that comes like every two minutes. Yeah. And imagine that you could get on a bullet train and go fucking anywhere you want to in the country. And imagine that the trains don't smell like piss because...

Are they smell like poo? No, they don't smell like poo either. Because they smell like galaxy gas? They smell like piss? Pina colada, Pina colada flavor galaxy gas. But imagine that every train station is a fucking mall with public restrooms and shops and lockers and all of this shit. I'm just like, wow, they

are in the year 4,024. I know. I feel like you're describing so many sci-fi universes that I've seen. Yeah. And it's just like, nah, we just went to Japan and showed y'all what Japan looks like. And you guys are like, wow! What the fuck? You can buy a sandwich on the train platform. Yeah, like imagine if we fucking cared enough about our own people to do public transportation right like that, it would never happen.

It would never happen. And they get to be a fascist country too. They do. On top of it. Yeah, they got to do their thing too. They did their thing. I was actually there during the political, like when the election campaign was kicking off.

So I saw a bunch of stump speeches. And some of them sound, I obviously didn't know what they were saying, but the- The tenor was- Yes, the tenor was. And I know that they do have very nationalist politics. Oh yeah, oh yeah. So even for nationalist, like, politics. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, so it's like, even for me, like, I love being in Japan,

but, like, there's still that part where, like, I'm not really considered Japanese, like, sort of broadly in through the eyes of, like, traditional Japanese culture, which fucking sucks because I speak Japanese fluently without an accent. And people are like, where'd you learn how to talk like that? And I'm always like, because I'm Japanese. I'm like, right, right. You're like, you know those YouTube videos where it's like white boy goes to Chinese speaks fluent Mandarin locals. The main book.

They're like, how'd you do that brown skin? And I'm like, my mother. I had several moments where they made fun of me for it because I tried to speak as much Japanese as I possibly could because I understood that that's one of the most respectful things that you can do. And I tried to follow the customs and stuff as best I could. But one time, I was like, oh, hi, oh, gazaima, to the attendant at the 7-Eleven. And then the Japanese guy who came after me was like,

good morning. And I was like, fuck, you're making fun of me right now. I do the same thing when I'm practicing Spanish, like when I'm working somewhere with a bunch of Spanish people. They mock you. Well, I'll try to practice my Spanish and they'll be like, oh, no, it's OK. I'm like, I'm sorry.

You're all right. You're all right. Like, I feel like the only way I could learn is if I was like, had like a dialogue with someone but don't like, they just, they don't. I guess it's not their emotional labor to teach me Spanish. Right, right, right. I guess a duolingo has to do. Oh, I said, Buenos Dias.

Yeah. No, I want to. I want to. I want to do it. I want to be like a... Yo, Quiero. Yo, Quiero to do it. Yo, Quiero. Yo, Quiero. Yo, I want to. I want to. I want to do it. I want to be like a. Quiero.

Yo quiero to do it. Yo quiero mas practicar de mi espanol. No. Okay. Yeah. I want to be like Denzel Washington and training day. Like. Right, right, right.

Yeah. You want to be smooth with it. I get it. I thought you meant. somebody smoke PCP. Yeah, never get a ride with Janey. Why don't you hit this real quick? Damn, Carmen, I didn't know he got wet. What? Yeah, I'm like, Carmen, that's galaxy.

That's what she did on the day she came to visit me in the hospital. I just ripped my face off. I was like, ah! He gave you the bowl of soup. He had some soup. He was like, oh, shit, Carmen, I didn't know you liked to get wet. Like, this soup? What the fuck is this?

No, I walked in there. Galaxy soup. I walked in there and I pressed the button that brings the nurse. And I was like, she's in pain. I took the Percocets from her. I was like, thanks. I just walked out. See you later, Carmen.

Good luck with the base. Jany, what's something you think's overrated? Percocets and Galaxy Gas. No, I'm just kidding. I'm going to say, I don't know if y'all have talked about this yet, but Blue Sky is overrated. The Twitter alternative is overrated. And I'm only saying this because

I will acknowledge it is a lot better than Twitter as a social media app because there's, you know, you can log on, see people, do all the things Twitter does and there's just like 99% less little Hitlers running around and ruining everyone's day. But I see a lot of people make kind of like small bean posting about it like, oh, it's so nice. It's nice to have a little like safe place like that. And it's making me feel crazy because, have we not forgotten that like social media

is just like bad? Like, yeah, like the concept of social media is not good. Like every second you spend on it, you'd be better off suited like Reading a book or like watching like yeah, I don't doing anything else. This guy is health food It's what I'm gonna be doing instead of spending time with my children Yeah, I know George to Kai's posts are fairly wholesome. Yeah, cuz AOC is here and she, yeah, like it's just, it's, I don't know. I gotta say, it's, I am on Blue Sky as an alternative to Twitter, but I also have the same.

I, it was in the running for my overrated. I know you were going to say that yesterday. Really? I remember that. Yeah. Wow. I just, there's so much of it is like people being, and I, I'm not siding with, cause I think like Nazis are also like

coming in and be like, blue sky sucks. It's like an echo chamber. It's like, you guys just spent $44 billion making your own echo chamber. So like, but it does just feel like a lot of the content that gets surfaced is people talking about how good blue, blue, how good it feels to be on blue sky. Yeah. Like not enough, just like, Oh, this is what I would get on Twitter, except Is people talking about how good it feels to be on Blue Sky? Yeah. And not enough just like, oh, this is what I would get on Twitter except without the Nazis,

which is what I'm there for. I think it's the difference between drowning in water and drowning in boiling water, where Twitter felt like, oh, I was drowning in boiling water. It's terrible. Yeah. So nice just to be drowning in regular water. I mean, I need a Polarian jihad. Also, it's doomed.

Yeah, true. running in regular water. I need a Polarian jihad. Also, it's doomed. Yeah, true. Even before Elon Musk bought Twitter, you were having these same people being like, oh, another day on the LeBird app hell sites. And it's like, you were calling this a hell site before. Now you have another hell site. Like you have another, like the whole point of Twitter is just to like see things that make you kind of mad real quick. Like to see things that make you like disagree, start conversations.

And Blue Sky really isn't that much different. Like, I mean, there's a lot of the fun things. There's a lot of people I like that are funny. There's a lot of funny jokes. Like social media can be like fun. And Blue sky has the legs for it to be like fun now that it has like people on it. But let's just not like kid ourselves. Like social media is not like good and like making like another one that even

though it's less, you know, overtly hit Larry and it's not really like, good for you. Yeah. Well, and I think the other part too, is when you really think about it, like I, obviously it once after the election, my audition's fully cooked, but a lot of the thing too, I feel like there are a lot of like libs who were like, don't want to face the Twitter reality of it. And they want to go to the blue sky version of whatever political reality they want to be in.

And because the moderation is better, they're interacting less with the posts that are like reminding them of like how terrible the campaign was and how it failed. And you can sort of surround yourself with like other people and like, oh, I mean, Dems did pretty good, man, for like, you can compare that around the world. You think about it? Exciting with the Cheneys? Great idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I mean, like, yeah, for me, I think the one good thing is, like, it does feel like if the people I talk to are who they are and it's moderated. But again, that's a slippery slope because you excel. You look like a couple of years down the line and inevitably it's going to have the same problems Twitter did. Yeah, quite possibly. It is it is like it does feel better like I like as opposed to Twitter. It certainly does feel Better not having like the blue checks not having all the gimmick posts not having as much AI slop and not having to deal with

again, just millions of little fucking Hitler's running around but I mean, I don't know. I don't know how happy I should really be about that. Like, I don't know. Like, and also it's very concerning that like Twitter like won. Like it's very concerning that like Elon Musk, like his like whole gambit like that he didn't even want to do to begin with

that he tried to wriggle his way out of, that it eventually worked. He turned it into a right-wing media sphere. And I mean, I can't, I'm not gonna confidently say like that, like swung the election in any way, but like it worked, you know? Like all these other things like true social parlor,

all those like conservative things didn't work, but buying Twitter and transforming it in the way that he did obviously had some kind of like a net benefit. And that is a bit concerning. Like, who's to say like, I don't know, someone else doesn't come along and do this to Facebook, Metta, like Instagram, like, I don't know, China, please hold on to TikTok. We need you. President Xi, I'm still in line to vote for President Xi.

Stay in line. Stay in line. Yeah, I feel like the tech billionaires might do it themselves. They might do it for, like, Mark Zuckerberg might not need to sell. No, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. He is a little Elon. Just be damn.

Elon's actually pretty cool. He's just doing it so he can keep putting up his SoundCloud rap tracks with T-Pain. That's all like Mark Zuckerberg's doing. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks so much. That's all he's doing right now. It's so weird to watch him be like, I don't want to do all that fast shit, dude.

I just kind of want to wear chains and kind of let y'all know. I kind of as low key wish I was a black guy in college. How sad is it that we were supposed to get the like Elon Mark Zuckerberg fight that would have actually been like kind of fun and entertaining? And we got the fucking sad ass Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight. It's not too late though. We are just in like open oligarchy now. So I think like maybe we're we as the, you know, hoy, poloi, we can, we can maybe motivate them to fight each other to prove to us who we should follow.

What happened? I feel like Trump's version of Putin's oligarchy would be instead of like, God damn, these people have the slipperiest balconies at their... In front of their windows. ...sweets. They keep falling the fuck out. He would just have them like fight to the death for his entertainment in the Octagon, you know? Oh, all right. On Netflix. Gladiator.

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It's not been good. It's not been good. Let's just say that. Well, the thing is they're cheating because they all get to be on TV because they own the TV. So then they're able to get all their bad takes off on TV and then the Washington Post and then the New York Times and all The other corporate captured media outlets so we get the same bad lessons over and over You know there there was a you know, obviously Bernie Sanders has been continuing to say like hey

It's like regular working people that like need help and like just give it it, give help in a direct way, not to be like, what's that guy's fucking problem? Can we all agree? I mean, deal. Well, so then you have people like Dean Phillips who tried to, you know, uh, eventually challenge the, you know, Biden run, but anyway, he said, quote, our product is not the real problem. Our packaging, our messengers and our distribution is a real problem.

Oh, that's not the product. That's not the product. Then I missed this, but on CNN, right after the election, like a week after the election, um, Harris's former comms director basically did like the thing where they became like the sentient, like a sentient coconut Twitter tweet and then talk out loud on the television. This was his idea for what Joe Biden needs to do next. And it's shocking. Cool.

Oh, sorry. He is looking for it. That is my question. I'll start with you. Joe Biden has been a phenomenal president. He's lived up to so many of the promises he's made. There's one promise last that he can fulfill. Being a trans. Why is this dude talking like a fucking auction like

auctioneer let me hit y'all with some bullshit next here at law let Jamal Simmons continue. That it would dominate the news at a point where Democrats have to learn drama What? You want to see is the time this is the moment for us to change the entire perspective of how Democrats This is now jumped from an internet meme to a Sunday morning show It's very interesting that like I thought the whole time it was like the Democrats are the adults in the room The Democrats are like returning to sanity and now it's like, we need catty bitchiness. We need drama. We need the soap opera.

We need to copy the fascist homework. What? I agree that we need to change the strategy obviously, but drama is not, we don't need House of Cards. We need to be playing the same sort of dirty games that Republicans are playing. Just like when... It gets you nothing. Yeah.

It gets you nothing. But it's drama, Jack. And that's what the Democrats need. It's not to fight the status quo in public. It's to then just create sideshows that distract people from class war. And then, and then we'll be okay. We'll be okay. Hey, I'll say, if we could have like a leftist version

of like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who just like is always like instigating shit, like, shit, I don't know, that'd be interesting. Like Marjorie Taylor Greene, but like correct. Like, and actually like spitting stuff that's always like, cause Marjorie Taylor Greene is like, she's always in the news because she's always saying crazy, provocative shit.

Like, I don't know. And breaking the rules. But the thing about the Democrats is they're not gonna have anyone that's gonna say any crazy, provocative shit because their platform isn't provocative. It's boring, it's odd. And it would have to be somebody on the left. on the left. Even when Sarah McBride, you know, gets banned from using the restroom at the Capitol, her

response is just to be spineless and just say, oh, well, we're just going to, you know, I'm just going to do what they say and, you know, whatever. It's like, girl, you are making $35,000, which is not even that much from APAC. Let them pay the fines. Is it not fines that you receive for breaking rules at the Capitol? Because Marjorie Taylor Greene was getting like $2,000 fines like every day for not wearing a mask

when the mask mandate was put in place. It's like... Right. Conservatives just generally have more money though. Like they, like, that was a nice weave into that topic, by the way. Well, no, because this is the thing, right? Along with all of the stuff that you're like, what are they learning? You still keep, the people are referencing this poll that came out from this Democratic consulting firm called Blueprint, where they're like, look, we did some really thorough polling

with swing state voters. And what we found is quote, their top reason for not choosing Harris was a perception that she was quote, focused more on cultural issues like transgender issues rather than helping the middle class. Again, it was the Republicans that ran on this. And if anything, the Democrats did a pretty decent job of pretending like they never heard of transgender people

during the campaign. So it's like, what is the lesson there? Because it's not that the Democrats did a pretty decent job of pretending like they never heard of transgender people during the campaign. So it's like, yeah, what is the lesson there? Because it's not that the Democrats did this, but this is why now reflexively Democrats are like, well, we don't want to get pulled into a culture war here. Like, and then they're just going to make it all about this. It's like, it's not a culture war thing. We're talking about rights. And if you talk about it and defend it as rights, if you, it's hard for, I mean, they'll continue to attack,

but you don't have to fear what the reaction is gonna be if you're actually steadfast in believing like, no, this has to be defended. Andy Bichir is like a democratic governor of Kentucky. And he won on a pro-trans ticket by being like, no, they're all children of God and I love them. And they're my constituents and I'm gonna fight for them. Just like I'll fight for anyone. It's like, boom, they're all children of God and I love them and they're my constituents and I'm a fight for them just like I'll fight for anyone. And it's like, boom, done.

Easy as that. Like, what are you gonna do? Get them to say like, they're not God's children. Like they're not people. And as far as Sarah fucking, as far as Sarah McBride is concerned, you can't fight for like your own people. Like, how are you gonna fight for your own people,

how are you gonna fight for anyone else? If I'm a trans constituent that I voted for a trans person to be in Congress, and you're immediately, can't even stick up for me a little bit. So you use the bathroom. That's absurd, I'm not fucking voting for you again. I've seen a lot of people defend this by saying people need to stop attacking Sarah McBride

and need to be focusing more on Nancy Mace or that like she's not, she's actually not caving, she's picking her battles, but I also, I'm like, I don't know, like, I don't know where the anger goes to. I think there should definitely go to other members of the Democratic Party in the house for the very least, not sticking up for someone that is in their party and is on the other end of bullying. But yeah, I totally get though too to sort of kind of take it because the one takeaway you see sort of is the mainstreaming of this has been don't let the Republicans then pull us into another battle over transgender rights and that's the thing we want to avoid.

If I was that's not the lesson again. If I was Sarah McBride, I would just be like, why are we talking about where I'm peeing? Like, are you fucking kidding me right now? Like that? Like there's so much like immediately just pivot, immediately just pivot to every other single issue in the world that matters way more to people than where a congresswoman is peeing in the floors of Congress. That is absolutely ridiculous. Right. And this has been happening.

She's not the first transgender person who's a bathroom in the Capitol. Right. Like what's going on here. There were some on January 6th that had to use the bathroom. Oh, sure. Yeah. So there were some that use the trans people in Nancy Pelosi's office, taking peeing on the carpet. When you look at this all the two, it's like there was another there was an op-ed in the Washington Post that was saying that the basically the crux of it was Biden needs to pardon Trump so

America can like fully heal and unify. This came out on Monday. And then you have other people. I saw there's like another section where one of these opinion writers or like media reporters at the Washington Post does like like AMA basically with commentators. And this person got so upset when a reader asked like what's going on? Like you know the Washington Post feels like it's just employing quote, GOP enablers and apologists. And this guy goes, I was like, I completely disagree with that

characterization of what's happening at the Washington Post. It's like the name of the CIA agent, like typing up like Joe Biden needs to pardon Trump so that I'm like, okay. But see, these are conversations that we could not be having if he would just step down, bring Kamala in, everybody be like, whoa. And then we'd stop talking about how they just fucked up that election and how they could fix the party. That is a funny idea.

I'm not gonna lie. It's so, it really feels like that is the most kind of straightforward illustration I've seen yet of them just being like, well, why don't we be talking about anything except for what we just did and how we just ran that campaign? What about if we were talking about this? Right. You know what else is crazy? A little story from this week. I didn't like watch it, but there was like that interview with Bill Clinton. And it's like, I mean, I know Clinton like won some elections. I want to get to other things about it. But like, it's just weird to me how like all of these people like, like CNN, like Dana Bash will be like interviewing people who've like never won anything in their lives. And they get on there and they're like, well, here's what the Democrats need to do to win.

It's like, what do we say? And also, it's truly crazy to me how they could have hit Trump on, I don't know, being friends with Epstein or something, but they can't. When they're bringing, they're wheeling Bill Clinton out to everywhere to talk to him. It's crazy. And then Shane, pro-Palestinian activists too, at the same time. wheeling Bill Clinton out to everywhere to talk to him. It's crazy.

And then like Shane pro-Palestinian activists too at the same time. Oh yeah, that Michigan thing was insane. And sell merch with I'm speaking on it. The other thing too is she lost to the working class and even Bill Clinton had a great appeal to the working class that she didn't have. And I think it's due to to this like old style of like,

well, let's have Beyonce, you know, let's pay Oprah, let's pay like all these famous people. She had Queen Latifah. Yeah. Wait, how did you live? No, there was like, I forgot who said it, but there was like someone on like CNN or something who was like, I don't know how we lost this.

She had a great campaign. Queen Latifah never endorses anyone. Like, and Queen Latifa endorsed Kamala. It's such a flattening of like marginalized people and working people where it's just like, I don't know. Like if we get a drag queen, that's an LGBTQ vote locked. Okay. Right. Do we get Queen Latifa?

That's black women vote locked. Can we get, I don't know, Bob the builder then great. That's the blue collar vote construction worker vote locked. Treating those abstractions instead of as people who are after voting and know exactly what the fuck you're doing. Because you hear it like there have been other, uh, like Congress people have been like, you know, we just got to

listen to more. There are so many people who, you know, on the streets telling us that we got to really be talking to the people on the streets here and what they're going to. It's like the fact that you're seeing this now, you're like, whoa, I guess, I guess it was people who actually know these quote unquote working people we always talk about as like a fantasy person. They're saying we're all we're way off. That's weird. I swear to God, I used to work at McDonald's like 47 years ago. Right.

But, well, Trump worked at McDonald's just a few months ago. So. Yeah. Thank you. Apparently, there's a lot of people that thought that like, you know, a lot of people voted for Trump because they thought there was going to be more stimulus checks, even just the optics of that. Like, why not? I don't know. Why not just be like, there ain't going to be any more stimulus checks, y'all. Vote for Kamala. They're like, they're lying because they want us to think.

I mean, this is how I think so many people are, they were kind of trained through their media diet to either believe it or not or be like, well, who's paying for it? Or some version of that to never be like, oh, that could be good for everyone. Yeah. It took me like, when they first did the whole whole switcheroo and there

was like a lot of momentum and things were like actually like looking kind of good for like the first time. Way better. Yeah, things are looking pretty in her favor and it took me a while to kind of like pinpoint like what they were doing because like after like the DNC was like when they really started like Right-wing pivoting, you know talking about like immigration sounding like Republicans exactly the most lethal military in the in the world Yeah, oh my god. Yeah. Yeah If yeah, if trans people are out loud out of existence, I would follow the law like stuff like that yeah, I feel like the I I feel like there was more strategy there than I realized. Like I thought, I mean, one, I do think it is principled.

I do think they are a right-wing leaning party. But two, I think that the calculus was like, the Democrats are there. Like the people that all saw January 6th happen, they're not going to vote for Trump. All the people that voted Biden are going to vote for Kamala and then some, because like, it's just, they just will. Like, it's a lot. So they didn't need to do any type or they felt they didn't need to do any type of leftward populist, like, capitulating. Yeah. of leftward populists capitulating. Yeah.

That's why they started employing all these Republican tactics, being like, well, maybe we can poach off some of these Republican voters. And just like every single other time Democrats have ever fucking tried to do this. Every single time. It didn't work. It didn't work.

Those people don't exist. Those Republican voters don't exist. It was maybe, and honestly, looking back, what Trump did was legitimately a lot smarter It didn't work. Those people don't exist. Those Republican voters don't exist. Yeah. Honestly, looking back what Trump did was legitimately a lot smarter because his popularity had also reached a ceiling. Everyone has made up their mind on Trump 10 years ago, and the only people conceivably who would like be turned to vote for him is young people that listen to that watch like Aiden Ross. And don't really remember what 2016 was like because they were watching Cocoa Melon. Yeah.

And now like, and I remember thinking at the time, like, I don't know if this will pay off. I don't know if these people will actually go out and vote. And they fucking did because Kamala did not have... She had people she could have gained that she assumed were already in the bag. And Trump had people to gain that were easily swayable. And he went for the people that were easily swayable and they were easily swayed. She needed to go for the people who are easily slayable. Thank you. Yeah. Missed out. Yeah.

The Rogan thing, I mean, I feel like it gets in, it also ties into the central problem that I feel like her campaign had, which was that it, it just seemed like they were saying whatever they needed to in the moment, they had no, there was no there, there, they were just saying whatever they needed to in the moment. They had no, there was no there there. They were just saying whatever they needed to say in the moment. And she wasn't going to go on a full long interview, no matter how, whether it be with somebody who believes in dragons or not. And she just had to be guarded in that way.

And I think that's ultimately- She's getting terrible advice from her inner circle. Your brother-in-law has the Uber boot down their throat. They're like, don't piss off the companies. Yeah. I don't know if her going on Rogan would have helped, but I do think if Tim Walz went on Rogan, it would have helped. Yeah.

I think he would have been much better. She went on Call for Daddy and like how much on the set alone. And if you look at the views on that, it is bad. Like not a lot of people have watched that. Like hundreds of thousands, not even knowing. Way more people watch. Especially if you take cumulatively like Trump going on like Aiden Ross, the Nelk Boys, fucking Joe Rogan, like Logan Paul's podcast.

Like, if you take all of that, that's a lot of you. That's a lot of content. Like that's a lot of fucking people he's reaching. And yeah, call her daddy just does not have the juice like that. It's crazy. And I don't think if she went on Rogan, it would have been, I don't think that would have moved the needle. Cause I think it would have helped because I don't think. Yeah. That's not, that's not where, that's not where you're going to find your gains. Like

to your point, Janie, the calculus was worth, we've definitely are going to turn off progressives and people to the left of the party, but we can, we can make up for that by like really digging into the status quo and then appealing to like these Nikki Haley fucking mystery voters. And they thought there was so much never Trump or stuff that those are the people that were on the table. They were not. And it was all again, it's cause your, your product is fundamentally flawed for the era that we're in, which is so many people are suffering and all you did was make it seem like you were there

for the status quo. And that's all, like the perception of that was so damaging. Yeah. And yeah, but again, here we are. If I would be like even just the littlest bit charitable, I would say that one thing I kind of do understand, I don't care if this makes me sound like a lib, is like January 6th, like that is crazy that he did that and

won. It really is crazy that like he fucking did that shit and then won the next election. Like I, and then Biden is welcoming him in the Oval Office. I know, like hanging out like it is crazy to me that like that was not an instantly temperature jack disqualifying event for so many people. But I think the fact that it's not an instantly disqualifying thing for so many people is way more indicative of the democratic party and their messaging and how much they totally fucking suck and drop the ball than it is on. But they, they spent so many months telling working people how stupid they are because they didn't

realize how good the economy is. Like they wasted so much oxygen. They got to know how good the economy is. It's not, dude. You're not. Your metrics are so weird. It's good for people who own stock. It's not for good.

Not good for people who are on wages. And that's the thing. You're not. Anyway, so we'll see now though. we'll, we'll, we'll see where, where the toilet bowl takes us. But I feel like they're going to nail it. I think they still got a good answer. And the blue wave come in. It's just, they're a little confused right now.

They've been spun around by the election. They're going to come out and not, not look like they just played spinny bat. Uh, Carmen, Janie, what a pleasure having both of you, as always, on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you guys, follow you, all that good stuff? I am on Instagram, at thecarmenlaura, and I have a podcast called Diva Down podcast.

We rebranded from the last time I was on here. Janie's gonna be my guest on Thursday, so tune in to hear Janie talk about how she was canceled by the amateur wrestling community. Um... It's a tale. It's a tale. You're gonna be on the edge of your seat for that one. Yeah. And that's it for me.

What about you, Janie? Um, you can find me on Twitter and bluesky at wife sucker, and you can find me on Instagram at Janey underscore danger. Also Janey danger.com. If you want to look at some like merge and like other shit there. She's got some really cute merge. Thank you. And most importantly,

if I have any listeners in the New York City, Brooklyn area. We are playing a show on December 1st at Heartbar with Alex Walton and Holy Wisdom LLC. I am so excited to be playing with Alex Walton. She's so fucking sick. Shouts out to her. We're very, very, very excited to be playing New York City for the first time.

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Is there work in media you all have been enjoying? Oh my God. Well, I heard y'all already talked about it, but it's the only thing I've been thinking about for a week now. It's the interview with Tracy Gilchrist of Out Magazine and fucking Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo. That is just like, you know, I've heard,

lately I've been seeing on social media, I like have it memorized by now. You can do the whole TikTok, like mouth, like literally with the computer in front of me. People on social media have really been taking the lyrics from Defying Gravity and really holding space with that. And like Cynthia Arrevo is just like, oh my God, wow, I didn't know that. Like as if holding space with that means anything. Yeah, I know what holding space means in like,

for lack of a better word, like woke terminology. I don't understand how it fits in this. I don't know, I guess I've been really, I've been really holding space for the lyrics of Sisterfucker part one by I Hate God. I've been really holding space for the lyrics of Cheerleader Corpses by Pig Destroyer. Like, I don't know what that means.

It is so just uncanny. Exactly what I was hoping you would be doing. That's exactly what I was hoping you would be doing. That's exactly what I wanted. And then Ariana Grande trying to manipulate Cynthia Erivo into crying for the 900th time on this press tour by grabbing her finger. She's like trying to grab her hand and just get that finger. Yeah. I'm just like, I'm like Ariana Grande, everybody needs to eat a meal and be institutionalized because they look like they are.

Or at least put her in a dress that's flattering. She looks, the dress is so big, she looks like David Byrne. Well, and Cynthia, I mean, her hat is so big. I was like, what is the hat? I don't know. It's just very, it's all, it's all. And talk about stop making sense.

I mean, none of that. Shut up. Oh, Jesus Christ. Like none of it. And yeah. Jenny, is there a work of media you've been enjoying? I really liked the movie, Anora, directed by Sean Baker.

Nice. Listen to that Erica Jayne song about her wet drippy pussy. Yeah, there's a Slater needle drop in it. That's cool. Um, there's a... There's a... We usually read like a tweet or something. There was one I saw yesterday that was like a British guy taking off my bra and being like, so what's all this? What's all this?

Oh, what's that? I like that. But yeah, I'm with Carmen. That video of the Wicked Tour. I don't know. But I'm in queer media, so that's my, you know. We are, as people in queer media, I guess we do understand this. I guess we have been holding space for queer media in a different way. And thank you all for holding space for us. Yes, thank you for holding space for us.

I didn't know that was happening and that's amazing. I didn't know that was happening. I didn't know that was happening. That's exactly what I wanted. Thank you, thank you. We didn't want to tell you like this, but now you know. I start sobbing. Miles, where can people find you?

Is there work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me everywhere. But Blue Sky is still miles of gray. Everywhere is miles of gray. Find Jack and I on the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad boosties. If you all tuned into the game of the week, we told you a lot. Just forget about that one.

We didn't didn't go according to I was talking to Adam Silver. I said, hey, the Lakers win that one. What the heck is going on? Didn't even go on. Anyone also find me talking about a fiance on for 20 day fiance a couple skeets. I like first one at the internet hippo or at internet hippo tweeted. We don't do Thanksgiving at our house because it encourages dependency here. It's thanks earning. And then Sarah saw blah SABL a H dot B sky dot social said, we got a bigger bed. So our dog would take up less of it, but it was futile.

He has adapted, finding ways to make himself larger and longer in the night. And that's just, yeah, bro, I hate fucking pets. These pets in the fucking bed, man. Get them the fuck out. No, I got to have my dog in my bed. They told me before surgery not to have my pet sleep in the bed. I laughed and I said, Oh, yeah, sure thing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky at Jack.

Oh, B one. Jack. Oh, B number one. Jacob one is what it looks like because legendary New York City tagger. Jacob, Jacob one. I like I have a bad job. Legendary New York City tagger. Jacob one. I like, I like the Wicked video. Still that, that is the only, I could lie. I could name a tweet, a skeet, but the only social media clip that is, uh, that I'm holding space for is the Wicked clip.

Uh, you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes at our foot, no? No. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song

that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? I've just been listening to more of that artist, Nil fair Yanya and the last week we went on the track Like I say, there's another track from this album called my method actor The track is called mutations and again, I just love like as an I like when like artists are really you can tell they give A fuck about the rhythm section and the drumming on their album because this is like one of those It's it's it's intricate or not little it's a little you know more intricate than like straightforward kind of four on the floor shit So this is mutations by Neelu fair Yanya and I L you fer ya and ya

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