The Daily Zeitgeist - (Hung)ter Biden? 12.06.22

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

In episode 1385, Jack and Miles are joined by host of When You're Invisible, Maria Fernanda Diez, to discuss… Elon/GOP Thinks You Have a Constitutional Right to See Hunter Biden’s Genitalia, Speaking of the Constitution - Trump Says D*ck Pics are Grounds to Overturn an Election, When You’re Invisible And Class In America and more! Speaking of the Constitution - Trump Says D*ck Pics are Grounds to Overturn an Election LISTEN: Things Fall Apart by Steve MoniteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 266 episode two of your daily science guys a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness i'm gonna try and keep this throat bubble going the whole episode. Yeah, that thing is stuffed, my guy. Wow. Let's just rumble a bit. Ah, there it goes.

Ah, I can't wait. It's Tuesday, December 6th, 2022. 12-6. Appropriate, because it's World Trick Shot Day, and you're about to hit one with that throat bubble that went for like 60 seconds.

Also, St. Nicholas Day. National Miners Day. Like, you've got their mining. National Microwave Oven Day. National Gazpacho Day. Gazpacho soup burned my lips. It was room temperature. If you're expecting gazpacho.

It's pretty cold. Oh, yeah. Although, look, was room temperature if you're expecting it to be cold oh yeah although look i'm gonna be real my i prefer salmojero versus that's just okay look i was just in spain you know what i mean so oh that's how i get down no way oh you've been to spain yeah oh yeah Oh, yeah. Wow. That's shocking to me. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Eggnog. It's the main drink in our house. Eggnog. Woo! Feeling viscous in my mouth. Eggnog.

Oh, so milky and so sweet. Eggnog. That spice flavor can't be beat. Ba-ba-ba-dum. That is courtesy of... I left the name off. Son of a bitch. It was Our House Chorus by Madness.

Which I thought that was by the fucking talking heads. I'm a dum-dum. Anyways, I will find out who you are, you brilliant Prince of Maine, before the show. Actually, Wild Miles does his AK, I'll go find it. Hey, speaking of while Miles does his AK, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, a.k.a. All around the world, we can drink that nog.

Sipping in the dipping like scotch from a bog. Nog pouring out with sweet milky goodness. I drink it all day, but that's none of your business. I know, I know for sure that all this eggnog will surely kill me soon. I know, I know it's true. Give me more of that sweet eggy goo. Okay, shout out to Pat on the Discord. Hit RHCPK and then made it eggnog.

So I appreciate that. Fusion. I bet CPK has some eggnog offerings. Mine was from Josiah on Twitter. J-O-Z-A-I-Y-A. Okay, okay. Shout out to you, friend. Miles. So two eggnogs. Okay. Shout out to you, friend. Miles.

So two eggnogs. And you do fuck with eggnog. I feel like we might have talked about eggnog when you were out. And so I was outnumbered. It's good to be with my eggnog brethren. What happened? No, you were out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When we talked about eggnog. And I think the co-host, Matt Le the guests were like it's fucking gross it's disgusting oh man i mean i'm not out here being like it's objectively fantastic i'm just saying do i get down yeah yeah and i don't care if you judge me i'm just i'm living my own you know it's bad like i i get that it's objectively bad it's just a badness that is too good for me to pass up yeah i just think of it as melted ice cream that's how i thought of it that's exactly what it tastes like and then i just and then i think also too in my family like my grandfather used to make like that was the thing he would

always make the eggnog at the house and i would just drink it up and then like i had coquito and then i was like man we're all thinking the right things. We're all in the same place. Same page. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the host of a brilliant new podcast, Winger Invisible, that interviews people in the working class, many of whom have never been interviewed before because they're in the gasp working class in America. America doesn't like to admit we have one of those. I've heard of these people in the New York Times. Yeah, they all exist in the suburbs of Pittsburgh. They work in a steel mill.

And this is why it's okay that they hate immigrants. Yeah, exactly. It's the thrust of that op-ed. That's right. She's from the first class of the NextUp Fellowship, created by super producer Ana Hosnier. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Maria Fernanda Diaz! Hey, what's up?

Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming on. Thank you for being here. I saw you squirming a little bit. Are you an eggnog lover? It's just holiday season to me. I mean, Latinos really do it up during the holidays. So it's like eggnog it's coquito it's

everything that's like a holiday drink and like also melted ice cream that makes complete sense and exactly how i thought of it like right where i had it i'm like exactly exactly my holiday punch when i was a kid this was like the first thing that i ever made it was like i think i made it when i was like seven or eight for a holiday party we were having in our house. And it was, now get ready because this is pretty complicated. First of all, your parents were like, Jack, would you like to make a punch for the party later? Is that kind of how this happened? I found a children's cookbook at the library. And I was like, this is my shit.

Get ready, motherfuckers. Your minds are about to be blown. Excuse me, Jack? What did you say to me? It was Sprite. Okay. Like a whole two gallon of Sprite. my shit get ready motherfuckers your minds are about to be blown excuse me it was sprite okay it's a bit like a whole two gallon of sprite uh gallon of orange juice and then just a whole tub of briars vanilla ice cream you just dumped that shit in there like an iceberg and it just kind of cooked at the top and like made milky bubbles and it was better than you might

expect that sounds pretty fun right probably was like uh one of those like orange creamsicles yeah it was like an orange creamsicle yeah but i was very proud just in like the hunched version though like i'm imagining it swimming in a bowl not in individual cups right now right yeah it was good until it got flat and then it wasn't as good. And that was like within the minute because you're pouring a whole 20 gallon or two gallon of Sprite into a punch bowl. So it gets, loses the fizz quickly. And the fizz starts curdling that cream a little bit.

Yeah. There's a little curdle going on that we don't talk about in this household. But are you, where are you right now um i'm right now in atlanta georgia actually in georgia all right is that where you you've you've is that like your home or where what's how did you get to atlanta are you from atlanta oh no so my parents actually moved here like six years ago okay from the twin cities and so i've fun fact i haven't had a home base since february oh because like one rent is too damn high in new york city is too damn high it turns out yeah fuck yeah uh so

i had to do a few like work trips and stuff like that for different things so i was like you know what i'm just gonna be really really lucky and blessed and be able to hop around yeah and you know still having lived in new york city for 10 years like i have a lot of friends there so whenever i have to go back to the city right now i'll just stay with folks and then like have had to come out to atlanta a couple times and my parents are here so then i'm like cool i'm gonna chill with you guys yeah yeah and a travel hub great place to travel from huge huge airport right yeah it's huge it's insane it's huge yeah yeah no i it was crazy because when i was coming from mexico visiting my family with my grandmother like we were coming back for my brother's wedding and we had to walk like 40 minutes in the terminal together to get from the gate to customs

and i'm like this is an 86 year old yeah yeah it's a workout yeah i guess not a workout yeah those those carts that carry the the older folks around are well-earned in many airports. Oh, yeah. Because it's just a villainous amount of distance to travel. Even with one bag, I'm like, oh, my knee. I had to walk three-quarters of a mile. And what's Atlanta like when it comes to the holidays? Are they doing it up right?

I've actually never really thought about it. Other than the relationship between, you know, Santa Claus being a property of Coca-Cola and Coca-Cola running the city of Atlanta. Is it pretty Christmassy down there? How do you feel? It's fairly Christmassy. They also have their own like peach drop, which is like their ball drop. Okay. So they like, it's a thing out here.

That's fun. So yeah, it's cute. Everybody's got like the decorations up and whatnot. So it's cute. All right. Well, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the stories we're talking about. We're going to talk about the massive bombshell that wasn't

over the weekend on twitter oh it was jack don't do that now i mean okay yeah on said bombshell it bombshell hey we report you decide we'll tell you what what happened if our constitutional rights were violated yes yeah trump wants to overturn the election based on what was revealed. So we're going to talk about that. We are going to talk to you, Maria, about when you're invisible and just class in America, what you've discovered kind of in making that podcast. Before we get to any of that, Maria, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? So my search history recently has included a lot from like Black Panther, Wakanda Forever and all the Easter eggs. Okay. Because I just watched it with my cousin who recently moved to the U.S.

Like literally new fresh off the plane. Okay. Week one. And so he's like, yeah, I'll go to like a movie theater because it's comforting. It's what you would do in Mexico for fun. So we watched Wakanda forever. And now I'm like trying to find all the Easter eggs and learn more. I've not delved into the Easter eggs yet.

But I haven't gone to the theater by my house, like rotated it out for something else very suddenly. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. So now I'm going to have to go to like a bigger theater. I like to go like my local cause it's smaller, but like, you know, I'll,

I'm going to venture out there because it's, that's like my first theater, my next theater movie I'm going to. Dope. But you liked it though? You liked the movie? I did. I think like,

that sounded enthusiastic. It's very much like sad Wakanda. Yeah. As people were saying, like there's a lot, it's sounded enthusiastic it's very much like sad Wakanda as people were saying like there's a lot it's like it's both like a lot of action and your typical like Marvel and then there's a lot of like quieter undertones

and just like gently sad but I also like freaking love that like they're speaking Mayan in the film like it's freaking cool like, chintzly sad. But I also, like, freaking love that, like, they're speaking Mayan in the film. Like, it's freaking cool. And so,

like, I just, like, didn't know much about Nimor. And then, I, I was just been like, he's really awesome.

And now I want to explore what world he comes from and that kind of thing. Got it. Yeah. So you're diving in the, get the comics now. Yeah. I'm going to, awesome and now i want to explore what world he comes from and that kind of thing got it yeah so you're diving in the get the comics now yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna dive into the comics there you go yeah which i'm like i i've read some but i'm not like a huge sure sure sure but enough to be like oh i'll look at i'll look at this a little bit for sure yeah yeah for sure what is something you think is overrated voice memos i don't know if they're like for me like voice memos feel really overrated like unless it's just like a sweet like hey think of you or just gonna like say something stupid and fun if we're having a whole conversation over

voice memos it's freaking hard to keep track for me and then i can't go back and reference yeah just call me like i'm like either text me or just call me like i want one or the other but it's like weird in between is this happen when i have voice voice memos it used to happen in two ways on iMessage like on your phone when people send voice notes that's usually how drug dealers talk to each other so there's no real texts you just send these ethereal voice notes to, you know, disappear to coordinate things. Yes. And then but then I also have a version where like I talk to people that live abroad on WhatsApp.

And all that is straight voice memo conversations from people, especially like I know like there are people I talk to in like Costa Rica or like Africa and stuff. And they just hit you with a two minute and a half. Yes. Voice memo. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's like, for example, for us, like being like Mexican and then having a lot of Latin American friends and like, also like my French sister was like, here's the three different voice memos back to back, which are each like three minute long things. And I'm just like oh my god like i love it and i'm glad that whatsapp at least i can like go back and listen to it but there's still no mode to like fast forward yeah like yeah yeah and i'm like so if i've listened and then i had to pause and then it closes for some reason and with iMessage it's like the moment you pause it, it starts back from the beginning. Right. Ooh. So then you're like.

Here's a little podcast I made for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I get it too. Like it is hard because when you're abroad, right, the time zones, you don't know if you're going to actually call each other on the phone. So I understand the impulse to be like, let me send you my voice and then you send your voice back. So then it kind of feels like we're just connecting a little bit deeper than text.

But like when I got married, I had a cousin send me a no joke, a seven minute voice message about my wedding. And I was like, this is a lot to listen to. Like, see, like, and now I'm like, that's both really sweet and endearing. I'm glad you have it now. But then I'm also like, yeah, I've gotten 12 minute ones before. Yeah. And I'm like, I I've gotten 12 minute ones before yeah and I'm like I love it I really do but when I have then also what's ridiculous is when you go back and forth and you're like we're clearly in this chat at the same time we're clearly here together yeah let's use the terrible

phone function on it instead yeah is the phone function terrible on like what's that like a bit of a delay yeah yeah that's all yeah yeah it's also bad when like if you said a voice memo or if you're getting a voice memo and it transcribes for you and they've gotten good at transcribing so like the they're getting the words right but like i've never felt stupider than like seeing my words transcribed because there's pauses there's uh like and just like what is happening this uh i would rather have just texted this straight had the delete function then yeah there's always a chance you'll be transcribed and that's not good for anyone usually unless you speak in complete sentences like some sort of freak what is something you think is underrated oh how incredible like youtube is

for exposing languages to like the next generation like i have students and like inner city kids who know japanese because they're watching anime. Wow. And I'm just like, wait, you're learning a whole language from anime? And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they're like, yeah. And then I just started researching more or I started looking up more anime and just have been picking things up. And so, and they'll just like start talking to each other in Japanese.

Conversational Japanese. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. I was born in the wrong era. Yeah, it makes sense, right? Because you often hear so many people say, well, I learned this language from watching TV. I learned English from watching American TV. Yeah, watching American TV.

But this gives everybody cross-border access for the most part, unless Disney's on it or something. There's a Disney song on it. Yeah. And so you just have borderless access to any TV show around the world. So that is cool. I hadn't thought about that. What ages are you teaching? I teach like all ages.

My youngest is six and my oldest, I actually teach adult learners Spanish as well. So my oldest is 53. Okay. But I mostly teach middle school and high schoolers. But then I also, my friend and I started a mentorship program in Chicago on the South Side. And we like go talk to kids and help them with like school and then introduce them to community members out in chicago to be like yo this is what you can do or if you have any questions like ask me and they're all like fourth fifth and and third graders so they're pretty

wonderful but speaking japanese at a sixth grade level yeah and i'm just like what how yeah it's so loud man it's like being half black and half japanese it was never cool for me to be speaking japanese around black people like until like the last fucking five years and people like yo you fuck with anime i'm like no i mean i did when i was a child but that got roasted out of me very quickly from cousins. Yeah. And then I'm like, it's so funny to watch now the like this true embrace of like anime. Right. Especially with like, yeah, like young black kids and just and even like even my age, like the amount of like the black anime nerds that they're out here. Mm hmm.

Yeah. I remember like in high school when it was just like the anime club was. Right. And it was like, like, the anime club was it. And it was, like, five people. Right. Because I look at, like, you know, like, we had the public defender, Alaymi Aluren, on. And her whole, like, her whole apartment is, like, anime, like, art that she has.

Like, she's got Vegeta's and, like, all kinds of stuff, like, on the wall. I'm like, damn, fucking everybody's fucking with anime. what's the what's the cool like show with with kids these days oh it's kind of it's all over like they like some of them for my kids at least they recently discovered naruto and they're like do you know this show it's ancient right right and they're like your time yeah yeah yeah and they're just like and so it's like funny to watch them oscillate i'm trying to remember what else was recently in the air but that's like yeah yeah they're just like oh my god this next thing and like also just like naruto that was like hilarious that is like ah yes the thing that i can

track that literally was not popular during my time as in like not cool to like and now everybody has to know it do you know it yeah i mean the idea of an anime club is even foreign to me but that's that's because i'm old as fuck but oh wow Yeah, they asked me to be in the anime club in high school. I was like, nah, man, I'm good. You're like dumb. I'm like, nah, I'm smoking weed after school, man. Y'all can talk about anime, but that's, they do you. Right, right. All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll come back, and we'll talk about Twitter and

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and we're back and yeah elon musk was putting in work for the uh republicans and for trump this weekend being like well big big bombshell coming and you you're gonna find out all the all the shit that like twitter was trying to hide from you about what really went down in this last election yeah and the so the thing is it basically revolves around hunter biden's dick that's yeah if you distill it down to its essentials this really revolves around quite literally hunter biden's dick essentially right like matt taibbi like put this whole thread out that like exposed how twitter was violating the first amendment that was like the thrust of like what like what the revelations were from this thread and essentially the biden campaign during the like the election asked twitter to you know refrain from posting certain things from the hunter biden laptop scandal because

they're like some of it's just salacious, doesn't even make sense. Twitter obliged. And now the right is like, this is proof positive that the Biden administration was abusing its powers to violate free speech. And first off, everyone's like, sir, he was candidate Biden. He was not the government. So he wasn't violating anything. And also his Twitter. We went out, we go over this all the time with private companies. So fine. Keep saying that. But like a couple of things, the other, aside from him not being president, it's like, it's the material that makes this story like just so stupid.

And you're like, why are these people so obsessed with him? Really? The thing that they didn't want them to post, like you're saying, Jack, it was pictures of a naked Hunter Biden in bed. Like, and you can see his genitals. Okay. And the Republicans are like, oh, man, they needed to see that. They needed to see this boy packing meat.

And that's what they felt like was the right of people. Like, doesn't he have like a pretty good dick? Like, that's what when that shit came out. That was like that on. I remember in the election. They're like, man man these laptop photos are like they definitely ain't hurting hunter biden right i mean but yeah i mean i guess beyond the like them trying to humiliate him is it it's just the act of him trying to hold it back there's like nothing that would have been revealed that's different than what we know. Like,

no, there's been like sex tapes from Hunter Biden, like that have been leaked and stuff. There's all kinds of stuff. And people don't like, it's clear Hunter Biden is not some saint, but his story is like very relatable. You know,

like people know somebody or have people in their family who are probably like struggling with substance abuse or some emotional troubles. And, you know, like people know somebody or have people in their family who are probably like struggling with substance abuse or some emotional troubles. And, you know, like and like a lot of people are like, oh, shit, that's that's got to be tough. There was that one member. There's like that one voicemail we heard where Joe Biden was like, hey, I love you, son. Like, you know, no matter what. And like the right was like, oh, look at Joe Biden giving a fuck about his son or something. And like the right was like, oh, look at Joe Biden giving a fuck about his son or something. And it's like, what? What do you think the damaging information is? Because the thing that they don't have is some email where he's like, hey, dad, it's me, Hunter Biden.

I'm going to do a corrupt deal in Ukraine. Can you bail me out with your influence? XO Hunter. Like that's that doesn't exist. And if it did, it probably would have come out. Because if you remember, like Rudy Giuliani had this fucking laptop for like ages, like before a lot of these stories came out. So it's like,

okay, so what, like where, what are y'all doing? Are you just obsessed with this man's like naked body or like, cause you're so like your distillation of manhood. It really does come down to like your genitalia size. Yeah.

I mean, if we, yeah yeah i think it's all that if there was a donald trump jr laptop right that he had held back because there was just like loads of compromising footage on it i don't i don't know i i guess i am always curious like what if the shoes on the other foot i guess i think people would probably be pissed but like not at a at a state where it's like impeachment he deserves to no longer be in office no i think they both yeah even democrats would love to humiliate someone in the trump family for sure for sure but i think it falls short of like the logic being and that's why the 2020 election needs to be overturned is a bit of a stretch because you know now what from what we've heard from a lot of republicans like inquiries into hunter biden is going to be like a bulk of the work that the that they're going to be doing in this new

congress next year i guess what the mainstream media would have done is found documents and been like, this could have been him trying to fix the election and setting up a call with Putin. So the mainstream media and Democrats would have fabricated boring shit, whereas the right just wants the sex tapes because they're here for the straight up humiliation. I mean, it seems like a bunch of them are into that behind closed doors anyway. Yeah.

Or out in the open. Yeah. But this is, again, they feel that this is a winner. winner they must think like just to use all this political capital to like they must think that hunter biden being like far from perfect and a flawed human is going to bring down like the biden administration and like a 2024 run for democrats in general i don't that's what i'm like i'm not sure what they're going to produce that arrives to the level that they think this is going to like move heaven and earth but i guess when you look at how their followers are reacting they're all like of the same mind they're like oh my god

are you serious they really suppress dick pics on twitter right this shit's this shit's an ugly ugly thing yeah do they because there there was controversy over like a new york post headline that twitter had like maybe suppressed or Facebook had maybe suppressed. But like that doesn't seem to be the focus here. It's not like they are tilting the scales. Remember there was that like story where the New York Post was reporting on the laptop and the headline was being suppressed on Facebook or that was like an allegation the new york post i mean that's probably yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we did this shed light on that like yeah because it was stuff out of there and like but although emails also showed that the trump campaign asked

twitter to not like post stuff too or like like you know keep stuff down too so it's like so when you read it really you're going to either be like okay so twitter has a moderation team that would listen to like requests from a presidential campaign and also they didn't want to post hunter biden's dick all over the place like that's really what happened also i feel like too there's so many skeletons in so many people's closets that like get suppressed all the time like that it's it's kind of just like one of those things it's like okay the one select thing and on like also just like to obsess over i mean understandably like twitter but also like it's just one place i'm

like we could have it's just like i don't know it's it's overblown. Yeah. Well, I think in this sense, there's just like, and who was it? I think in the New Republic, Michael Tomaski was really like, he was trying to understand, I don't know why they're obsessed. Is it because of his penis? Is that true? They saw it and they're like, they have to, and then suddenly they're they're so there's a part of their brain that yeah like the total lack of self-awareness is like we gotta talk about that i don't know why but we got to right wow it's unnatural right it's not good like now it also just feels like a little

bit of a brunch session to me like i'm like between girls like you might be like hey like oh my god this person like we're like can i tell you about my boyfriend yeah and their anatomy but i'm like why why do we have to i have to smoke smoke weed every time as some people say in sex in the city but like but that's again so this transitions into the reaction of Donald Trump, who then got on Kirkland's signature Twitter and decided to scream on whatever his app is. And this is he tried to get another pseudo coup going. He said, quote. So with the revelation of massive and widespread fraud and deception and working closely with big tech companies, the DNC and the Democrat Party, fraud and deception and working closely with big tech companies the dnc and the democrat party do you throw the presidential election results of 2020 out and declare the rightful winner or do you have a new election a massive fraud i can say exactly a massive fraud of this type and magnitude

allows for the termination of all rules regulations and articles even those found in the constitution our great founders when he starts doing legal language oh yeah allows for the termination of all rules regulations and articles two four and under the principles of so forth it sounds like that it reminds me of that one jayden and willow smith article that came out like a few years ago when they were like yo what are these teenagers talking about when they were like if you, what are these teenagers talking about? When they were like, if you think about like the metaphysical,

they're like, these are teenagers that are around like too many, like pseudo intellectual people at dinner parties. And they're just regurgitating shit. That's like Trump's legalese. Like here forthwith in regards to this article must be suppressed. And then our great founders did not want and would not condone false and fraudulent elections. Yeah. Okay. Which he capitalized you got his capital branded branded trying to

brand tm false and fraudulent elections tm that's only for me i own that shit yeah i think look i agree the constitution constitution should be nuked and made into something that actually reflects the values of our present day but that's because the vagueness is open to racist or, you know, misogynistic interpretation constantly, not because it prevented people on Twitter from seeing Hunter Biden's dick. So unless, but again, to each their own, he must have thought that if that had come out or the whole story had come out, that somehow things would change. But, you know, it's just, it's really a stretch very, very far. But again, Republicans are there.

They're like, no one's really saying anything about this one. They're just like, so do you are you on board with this presidential candidate who said, fuck the Constitution? It means nothing. And not like in a revolutionary way that was like for the betterment of people. Like he's just saying, like, get rid of it because it's getting in the way of like me doing whatever the fuck i want and they're like oh it's troubling and most people just have like not even said anything it does remind me of the republicans obsession with bill clinton and like they there are plenty of things that you could have like found him wanting as a president uh for but they just couldn't get past him being

like you know a sexually promiscuous like creepy dude and like just kind of misjudged the room and like put all their chips on like well this guy is a creep and let's just focus on the sexual details of his life. And obviously, in that case, it was, like, predatory and all sorts of fucked up. But it was like they can't get over their own, like, sexual obsessions when it comes to public figures that they're trying to take down. Right. And in general, it seems, too, like, with their policies, that they're like, oh down right and in general it seems to like with their policies that they're like oh everything's a deviation from the norm but again i think it's just funny to see trump like when he starts panicking like when it looks because this looks

like panic let's be real it's not because he's like i honestly i believe it that's what we need to do he's like fuck please i don't know if you saw the news last week because the house has my tax returns or i don't know if you read the thing last week because the house has my tax returns. Or I don't know if you read the thing about how the Mar-a-Lago documents case, the judge who was helping me out got straight a windmilled on by other judges high in higher courts. So that's not looking good. And I'm like, yo, just don't. This man hasn't even come close to ever seeing consequences. So part of me is like, daddy, you know most signs point to nobody doing a fucking thing about it right right but like he also thrives on the drama like he kind of just like it's that that obsession of like i gotta

be in the center and also like if if i don't get to panic and be self-righteous, then what do I get to be? Right. Right. Yeah. Well, at least, you know, after he a lot, all of his candidates didn't do well in the midterms, everyone was like the Republicans, Trump days are behind them. They're going to ditch this guy. So they're probably all pushing back. Right. Yeah. They're like, come on, man, this is irrational. And you've been aligning yourself with anti-Semitism. Let's pump the brakes on this. Donald, stop talking, right? Lindsey Graham came through with a statement. Some people were like, oh, that's not good.

Most someone said was like, I do not agree with the sentiment of that statement at all. And I would not condone that, but it was far short of like, man, that's disqualifying. Right. Cause no, cause that's again,

they're like to be humiliated in public where they would be like, y'all know that's bad. Now, do you want to put the boot all the way down your mouth right now? When I ask you for a quote, you're like, yeah. Oh,

sure. It's fine. It's troubling. You're like, yeah, oh, sure. It's fine. It's troubling. You're like, there you go. Snack on that. There you go. All right. Let's take a quick break here. And when we come back, Maria, we are going to talk to you about your podcast, When You're Invisible, and just all the interesting insights about class in America and life in general that we found in there. So we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films

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Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband. Daphne Spring, Daniel Thrasher, Peppermint, Morgan Jay, and more. You got to watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us.

I mean, you can still watch us, but you got to listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just, you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And let's talk about your podcast podcast maria let's talk about when you're invisible yeah because uh your first episode dropped last week i think i did it did and episode two just dropped today or yesterday so in your first interview uh in your first episode you interview

someone named ralph who works at an Ivy League package center. And it's Columbia University. You went to Columbia. That's how you kind of met him. And he talks about growing up in Washington Heights and then coming to this Ivy League campus with its beautifully manicured lawns and old buildings. And I think he said something like, why didn't I even know that this existed? Where was this? But you specifically use the phrase working class in the intro to When You're Invisible. And, you know, like I mentioned, Top America has this pervasive myth

that class doesn't exist because you're always just like one break away from being a millionaire and i think i think an idea that your first couple episodes get at is that you know that that is not true and also like it when you are in the working class a lot of times people treat you as if you're invisible like some of the behaviors that they describe. I think it was the guest of the second episode was talking about like a girl not getting the package she wanted, a student at Columbia not getting the package she wanted as quickly as possible. And just laying on the ground, plugging her ears and like screaming at the top of her lungs until just being like la la yeah yeah yeah no their stories are insane like even uh one that we didn't get to include for ralph was like he was like there's these turnstiles to get into the building from the street where the package

center is and it's the big turnstiles like the full body bar one yeah and apparently there was a student who started going in the opposite direction and the bars weren't moving because there's only one that like you push and you go through the open hole but the other side is just bar bar bar bar so she like gets to the bars is noticing it's not moving starts sticking her arms through it to try and see if she can like somehow finagle getting in wait you're talking about the fixed side of a rotating door where the metal bars go underneath the other metal bars yes exactly she thought okay go on and he like he's like watching her and he goes excuse me other side and she like but he was like she full-on committed like had gotten like one full arm like trying to get through yeah that

sounds like me when i'm too high though for me to be fair like just like coming to a thing being laser focused on like okay there must be some yeah to this right and i think it's like that laser focus that commitment that like and ralph even says that he's like you know she might just cure cancer with that level of energy it just like didn't didn't translate into like everyday things right yeah or just like yeah the little things in which like they they would often say it's like they'd often get a student who would be like what what like do you not know who i am do you not know who my parents are rather than just being like what's

the logical thing that's happening right now and like are there people really actually trying to make my day harder versus being like you know how many packages we get and how we have to do this legally because to tamper with someone else's mail yeah right is actually like punishable in our life so all of these like different factors and also just because like honestly they made like the package center home for so many of us. And like, a lot of us didn't know about each other, like the students that actually like felt really connected to this group of people. And like, the more I talked to Ralph and Louie, they would always be like, oh, yeah, yeah, this person stopped by. And I was

like, there's other people like one that's awesome, but also like crazy that it's it's not really a known or commonplace thing of like, oh, we all just hang out together. Like if you work here, if you go here, we all hang out and that there isn't this like marked difference that came into play. And I think for me, like there were a lot of great students there. Like, don't get me wrong, professors, students, there were a lot of great students there. Like, don't get me wrong, professors, students, there were a lot of incredible people. But you are met with a lot of different kinds of people and people where you're like, oh, doing your own stuff or doing things that like, even like, there's so I'm trying to like, think of specific examples, like, for example, like laundry for kids, like a lot of them would outsource it. Either have someone who their family hired, or they would get a service to do that.

A lot of people who had tutors, even throughout college, where it's like, yeah, this person helps me perfect my papers. And you're just like, what? Perfect my papers. Yeah. Yeah. And you'd be like, oh, and you're already so brilliant in my brain. Like, there was a level of just like understanding and how the world worked. And also, I met people firsthand where they were like, upfront and ruthless about like, I want to make money. And that is the only thing I want to do in life. And like the way they related to other people was actually very much through that lens

only. And that was very different than what I'd come from. So for me, experiencing that wide range of humanity was fascinating. And then to hear it firsthand from people who were workers at that school like was really interesting and especially because they are really great people they are really wonderful yeah he talks about how he like wasn't being paid overtime but he stayed up and like did overnights at the package center because it was at a time when like the books were being distributed and like he was like well these students need their books. And just like, he has this,

in addition to just sounding like the most fun person, he's like, yeah, if you're around me, like you're going to have fun. I'm, I can't help it. Like,

that's just what's going to happen. But also just like, so firmly aware of the social contract contract that we're all supposed to uphold to like one another and he holds himself to a high standard when it comes to helping people and that that was another place where you know i went to school around a lot of people who like went right into finance and you know some good really nice good people who went into finance and then a lot of like shitty people who went right into finance. But like the just more and more we're seeing with those kind of higher ruling classes, like the more Panama Papers leak, the more we learn

that they're not holding themselves to like any environmental standards when, you know, the energy companies have known, the oil companies have known about climate change since before anyone, like they're not holding themselves to a standard that upholds the social contract to not just egregiously violate other people's human rights. Like that, that felt like it was like really on display in a in a powerful way in your show thanks yeah yeah i mean that is partially why i wanted this show to exist it's just some of the people who uphold that contract the most are people who are like to me like working class folks or or folks who are struggling because like it's very community based and and also it's a practice of every day. And I think like sometimes as you climb the ladder, like there's this this like I don't have to uphold it today or like if I don't if I don't do what this person is asking me to do, like then I lose everything I've been trying to build and you're like but how much

are you actually losing versus the idea in your head of what you're losing and then you become then then you allow that to continue slipping slipping slipping and then there's also people who are just like straight up villainous in this world yeah and and I think to me too with with seeing how like those levels operate sometimes i i just want to continue connecting people to each other and being like you're actually not that different or you are very different but you can maintain love and compassion and also like heck yeah i have your back like i want to have your back and? Actually, if we do understand each other better, if we do connect, we can be like the against all odds and change something. We're seeing it like to me, we're seeing it with the rise of unions again. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like we we can like believe in the best of people, especially like people who are actually like proving themselves to be working towards that on an everyday basis. culture what as you said as you like climb the ladder the more you see a culture that is just

completely divorced from any consideration of the social contract like i think that's something people will be continue to be shocked by like i you know you see it with the panama papers and things like that but you know that i'm so glad your podcast exists to kind of have that come out, you know, more and more as you interview some of these voices that aren't heard. So the first two episodes were kind of take place inside the Package Center. Where are you taking it from here? actually what's actually going to be really interesting in conversation to this conversation to see is my third episode is specifically talking to someone who has worked in household staffing for the wealthy of New York city. And like, so there's some really crazy stories in it. And also the complicated conversation of like my podcast is is a short on the shorter side right now.

Eventually, you know, all of these things like factor into how you're treated at times. And that, yeah, there are really good people out there. There are for sure. But like what's really complicated is like when you start to see the grades of and then the really the really dark parts of it where you're like, it doesn't matter that there are good people if someone can be treated this way when they walk into a home and on the day-to-day where they're not being treated well, let alone paid well or anything like that, what are we doing? So there's that, but then also being like, there's a lot of an interesting sense of entitlement that can happen even to good people or decent people where it's like, because I've earned this, I deserve to be automatically treated a certain way or

get all the perks of what I want versus being like, no, if I'm contracting you even for domestic work, this is a partnership. This is an employee- employee employer thing and it has to be laid out. And if there's like unsaid or like changing boundaries, like that's not okay. And I think sometimes people in positions of more power in those situations don't always see the full range of like, oh, wait, let me think about what this means for this person's life. So we talked about that. And then I also talked to undocumented ground zero cleanup crew workers and their experience along with like what they they like look forward to in life and how they like think about this country and then i also

talked to like a woman who stutters so like the podcast is mostly centered around working people but it is also like taking in like to consideration people who have been othered in society no matter what that looks like and so i talked to this woman who stutters and 1% of the population globally stutters. And there's actually no difference among different ethnicities or races. It's actually within gender. And so it's very rare to be a woman who stutters. And so I talked to her about what it's like to be perceived as stupid or like someone who doesn't like deserve the time of day to right to have a full conversation with or get to know and so and what that's like growing up even and having that experience so we like do a whole variety and then like my brother also married into a white working class family

and so i sit down with my sister-in-law's sister, who I like knew very little about and was like, hey, can I talk to you about your life? Because my perception of your group of people is very different. And your perception of my group of people might actually be very different as well. So like a Mexican and a white working class, like very much a la New York Times. Yeah. I got gotta speak for the new york times yeah right i know let them know be like guess what the conversation is earth shattering for that new york times piece what's like what's the reaction to people because you know you also mentioned a lot of these people these workers it's like the first time anyone's

bothered to interview them yes that anyone has bothered to say, no, no, no. The story is about you. The story is about your lived experience. You don't have to like sugarcoat anything. We want to talk very, you know, honestly about your life. What is that? What's the reaction from people like when you ask them to do that or on the other side of an interview like what kind of what what what's the sensation for everybody involved it's in there's a lot of different perspectives or like feelings involved like my sister-in-law's sister was like no no no no don't interview me like i i have nothing i'm not interesting like i have no interesting stories and yet you hear her life stories and you're like, what the heck? You are fascinating, incredible. Right.

And then like even Ralph was like, I mean, I'll do it for you because you're asking me. But like, you know, like it's totally chill. And then he actually was listening to his episode and was told me he was like like, I had to stop and I want to finish the episode, but it's taking me a while. And I was like, well, you don't have to, but like, also, can I ask why? And he's like, I just never really saw myself from the outside because no one's been interested in this way and i and i like i'm like i can see how this is a good guy but like i also feel so strange to be in this position of like wow i can admire myself yeah yeah there's some things that come up throughout the first couple episodes that feel like like almost internalized invisibility yeah yes for sure yeah yeah that's being reflected back

to you know workers especially people of color is like yeah yeah yeah more on that like right you know exactly very hard to like break out of that to even embrace the fact that you are worthy or that like you know like to like ralph's point is like i've never even given myself the grace to put like observe myself and understand that i'm a good person and even despite the terrible inequality like it's the people that are on the other side of the scale that are working the hardest to uphold some semblance of fairness and i think that's like right fucking wild yeah and that's the thing that's like so like my heart always fills and like makes me want to do this work more and also wants me like i just want more stories like this to be out there because i'm like yeah the way he upholds fairness and kindness and respect in his own life is much more than most people give him and more than he's given himself sometimes.

And even just being like you talk about like we mentioned how he's like, oh, my gosh, I didn't even know this existed. I remember when I was like, oh, you have to you like art. You need to go to the Met. Like it's free for New Yorkers. Like go to the Met. Take your family to the Met. Like it's free for New Yorkers. Like go to the Met, take your family to the Met. And he was like, okay, sure, sure, sure. He goes to the Met. He's like, it's gorgeous. Like what the heck? It's amazing. And I was like, why didn't you go before? And he's like, I didn't think it was meant for me. And just like that level level of like here's a man who is interested in art but because of the background he comes from feels like he's not allowed to enjoy it in the same way

or like it's not as common to hear like hey you know it is free for for new yorkers so like go check it out if you can and like just kind of working through that with them or even hearing about like louis being really conservative about his hopes and dreams of like, yeah, you know, I'm working on my real estate license. And just being like sometimes also working class people, they feel like I think like dreaming is not necessarily something they can do or should do. Yeah. And yet, like, they deserve in my brain. Like, I'm like, everyone deserves to dream. Yeah.

You come from such an interesting background on, like, your mom worked as a domestic worker and, like, paid under the table. And, like, she did that to get your dad to a position where he could be a professor yeah yeah yeah and it's it's kind of really incredible and to have seen that and grown up with that like i grew up going to people's houses and doing my homework while my mom cooked and cleaned and organized. And like I grew up bartering for all the things I did in my activities and stuff like that until like we got more comfortable. And even then, like because we do have family in Mexico and unfortunately, the economic situation in Mexico has never been amazing. Like my family has always sent money

back. So when we got comfortable, we had people still relying on us. So the way I've gotten to see it is very different. And then, but still getting to grow up around like education being important. It was my parents' way out. Like my mom backed my dad for his education to try and ensure a better life for their family. And so like being aware of that too, and understanding what a privilege that is, and then also getting to hang out with all different kinds of people. Like I hung out with my dad's grad students. I hung out with like workers my mom knew. I hung out with my dad's grad students. I hung out with like workers my mom knew. I hung out with like the restaurant workers in the Twin Cities. Like I hung out with like a bunch of different people because I also do and did theater and opera.

So it was like a strange little child who was running around in different communities and was very like grateful to both be like accepted and not accepted in any of them so being in that like weird in-between space i think allowed me a lot of like access to worlds and feelings and perceptions and cuing into what was going on in different ways and then also we moved a lot so like experiencing that in upstate new york the twin cities the new york city and then now getting to experience what it's like to be in the south have all been like really really incredible and very shaping and also reminds me of like how much stereotypes we have out there and some of them are like fun whatever you know like i'll even say it like i'm super mexican like i freaking have four kinds of tajin in my house at

all times like i do carry hot sauce in my back like there you go like i know that i can be a walking stereotype in that way but like how much of it is wrong like like how much lucas were you eating as a kid so much okay all right it was my favorite it's still my favorite thing ever like literally when i went to go see wakanda forever i had like the you know there's like i had lucas and then i also had like there's like now a whole bunch of assortments of it so i had like cucumber covered tajin gummies. Whoa. So it's like, that's my preferred thing.

Snack. Snack, yeah. So it's like, for sure. Like, yeah. But also like, you know, being in the South and being like, damn, there's some really cool people here. And then there's some people who are like, just like in desperate situations and desperately ignored. Right. It seems like the one universal thing.

Yeah. You know, like no matter where we go, like that's one constant is that there are a lot of people who are trying to uphold this sense of fairness in a system that has absolutely discarded them. Yeah. And that's like the kind of really beautiful, cruel irony of a lot of like these like hearing from these people, too. And there are two points like two things that I thought were like like stray wisdom from that first episode. your whole week just looking forward to these two days where you aren't putting yourself through something when if there is a way to make it work for yourself or try and enjoy yourself then try that or at least pursue something like that and then which was like wild too because i've been in many jobs too i'm like man just get to fucking friday please right i want to do this and that was also like some of the hardest shit like like in my life in terms of like just being so deeply

unsatisfied and then the other was also I think your grandfather telling your father that do take a job that stimulates your mind that you use your mind and not just your hands and things like that and I think that's such a like it's like those are like those little things you grow up hearing as a child that set you on a path and I think think when I heard that, I was like, wow, that's such a, like such a great thing to be saying to somebody like when they're young or looking to what direction they want to move in. Right. Yeah. And that when I found that out from my father, I learned it young too, like from him. And I like knew like it was a big thing because I've grown up with my grandfather's story. Like he was put in an orphanage at a young age, like didn't get to finish grade school.

Like he was taken out at fourth grade and like ended up working a lot of manual labor jobs, but also tried to make a lot of businesses work. Like he was a milkman. He worked on a farm. He even like did some illegal running across the barters. Like like he was trying desperately to like figure things out and was also a man who always loved information. was also a man who always loved information. Like he taught himself English and would read sci-fi books in English, even though he never finished past the fourth grade. Like to me, it was like really moving to hear those stories and then to like also connect that to like,

yeah, like my grandfather had the same attitude Ralph has. Like my grandfather would be like I'm going to tell myself isn't this great I like this and then find the ways to figure it out and make it not just bearable but livable while I'm doing it if I'm required to do it right and that like mentality is like holy cow like that takes an incredible mind, an incredible spirit and like such grit to like figure out like being like this. If this is what I got, what do I need to do? Right. Yeah. Especially when increasingly like, you know, we're at that point now where we need more people to like advocate for a kind of life where people can work and not have to think this is torture.

At the very least, I can support myself or my family with it too and i think that's you know i think the ultimate thing you probably want people to come away with when you hear these stories too is understanding like the how connected we all are and how much we how much we owe each other in this process these people people we interact with day to day in their various roles aren't just fucking npcs in a fucking video game. Everyone has their own life and is trying to go through it in the same way. And to not extend that respect or humility to them, it's just going to happen, you know, at our own detriment. So, yeah, I encourage everybody to listen to the show because it's really fantastic.

Yeah, it's When You're Invisible on the My Cultura network. And it's very good. Go check it out. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Yeah, it's great having you. Where can people find you, follow me, which is a little bit of a funkier one. It's Marifer. So it's my fusion of my first two names. So M-A-R-I-F-E-R underscore my last name, D-S-D-I-E-Z underscore B as an homage to my mom's last name, which I technically still have. There you go. Yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying?

Oh, I mean, so definitely. I'm going to pull it up. But like also very much worker related. Right. Especially with the strikes that are potentially happening with the railroad workers. So I do love I'm going to butcher the last name of the person who wrote this tweet, but it's, I think, Sarah Lazar, and it's this whole railroad worker episode

further clarifies that the essential worker discourse that we've been bombarded with for almost three years is about disciplining workers to labor in perilous conditions and not about respecting and protecting the people who do vital work yep there you go yeah so yeah it's like so fucking wild it's like in turn like we rely on these people to to keep our country going but they better not get any ideas that they're human right now let Now let's move on. Like, are you hearing what you're fucking saying?

Such a fucking L on the Democrat side to like not fucking do the easy thing inside with them. But you know what? Just made it harder for yourself in a couple years. Exactly. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on

at symbol having places at miles of gray, wherever you desire. I may be there. And also find Jack and I on our fantastic basketball podcast. Miles and Jack. You know, we talk basketball in the dumbest way.

And also, if you'd like to hear takes on 90 day fiance, check my other show with Sophia Alexander out called for 20 day fiance. Let's see some tweets that i like oh first one is from at writer bxth uh talking about like the good morning america affair situation i don't know if y'all kept up with that with the anchors i'm a little yeah and people like anchors that like got put put on to the third hour and everyone was like oh my god they have such amazing chemistry. Wow. And they got taken off.

And then they were having an affair. Yeah, so they tweeted, can you imagine exposing your spouse's workplace affair in the tabloids and the general public being like, well, you can't deny the chemistry. Because that was, I think, the spouse sending a

public investigator. And then everyone would be like, dang, look at that. Yes. We love those for you, too. Del Cameron at Del Cam tweeted, weird how turning the net into basically a handful of apps run by a few white guys in the same zip code transformed humanity's greatest invention into a genocide machine capable of resurrecting and funding a hate movement penn penniless and practically dormant by the late nineties. Yeah. I felt like that. And then at Dan K G D L tweeted,

uh, my boy who I witnessed beer bong, a court of eggnog 25 years ago, just posted. Oh yeah, bitches. It's eggnog season. So I guess he still likes it. Court is not that much by the way.

Okay. All right.. Wow. Okay. All right. Out one go? Okay. Christy Yamaguchi-Main responded to the Matt Taibbi tweet with the screen cap. That sums up my response to much of the news. Just, I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you, though.

Or, sorry that happened. Brilliant copy pasta. Yes happened brilliant copy pasta yes brilliant copy pasta soulmate mnate shamalan tweeted me you don't like any of my gifts her no the five golden brings five golden rings were nice it's just me two birds her really bird heavy this year so many birds in the 12 gifts of christmas holy shit anyways you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,

where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? This is a retro Afro boogie, I guess, because it's like Afterfella, but going into the 80s, so it's a little more electronic like afro pop this artist is named Steve Monite and he's from Nigeria and this track is called things fall apart it's from like the early 80s but it's just got this like fantastic like afro

80s like pop vibe going on it's really dope uh and like. You can just hear the tape crackling because this shit was old, recorded back in the day. I love it. You'll probably like it too. And if you don't, whatever. Don't at me. But this is Things Fall Apart by Steve. Do people ever at you and be like, I didn't like that one song? Oh, yeah. Yeah. People

DM me and stuff. Don't do that. It's fine. I don't care. Do whatever you gotta do. It's not my prerogative to take that on board and feel bad. Oh, my God. Hey, people got time, you know, but I also have a strong sense of self. So it doesn't typically affect me. Unless you're talking about the Lakers.

Oh, yeah. Which case, leave me alone. They're looking pretty good. Three in a row. Jack, it's just a list for recording. Things fall apart is probably going to be the description of the next three. They need to just start treating AD like Giannis. Just, you know, he's the focal.

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