The Daily Zeitgeist - Hurricane Media Myths, Post-COVID Korn = Bummer 8.31.21

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

In episode 980, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and Deckheads: Chief Stews co-host Molly Lambert to discuss Hurricane Ida relief, how walking is for liberals, Korn's Jonathan Davis continuing to struggle from COVID, and more!FOOTNOTES: The Cajun Navy "Cajun Navy" volunteers race to help in Ida's wake Cantrell urges people to remain sheltered, implementing anti-looting protocols in darkened city There Goes Hurricane Florence; Here Come the Disaster Myths Liberal Democrats prefer walkable communities, conservative Republicans prefer drivable communities KORN'S JONATHAN DAVIS STILL STRUGGLING FROM COVID ... Needs Oxygen Onstage LISTEN: Paris Texas - FORCE OF HABIT (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 200, episode two of Dan Daly's Eye Geist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it's Thursday, August 31st, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Ah, ah, ah, you didn't say the Mad Jack word. That is Kurt Siv's suburban panic attack quote from Jack Rassic Park.

And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! He's so faded. He's not a star, but he cries, cries, cries while he's in his car thinking if there's nothing missing from his pipe, then why can't he smoke without a light? Oh, i just i just thought that shit up about five minutes ago did you really shout out to me yeah look a part of my uh like mental health uh like sort of journey i'm going on is trying to use social media less and less so i check the discord i check my mentions see what's up what's going there. And then I kind of go back to doing other work. And then right before, I'm like, oh, shit, I need an AKA.

And sometimes I just try and force myself to get creative. There it was, y'all. To the tune of Lucky. There it is. Yeah, that was beautiful. Lucky, I think one of the hit songs of the year 2000. I had a whole chunk. There was a lot that we didn't get to on our live show,

but a lot of good stuff that we did. There was a lot to talk about that year. A lot of memories of Chris Crofton, too, that we were talking about. Yeah, yeah. I think you can still watch it on VOD at RomanHouse.com slash The Daily Zeitgeist for another couple days. Yeah, yeah. If you want to see the live show.

It was be fun. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests here on TDZ. She's a brilliant, talented writer and podcaster who has written for publications like the New York Times,

the New Yorker, the New York Review of Books, and GQ. Was a staff writer at Grantland, the co-host of the legendary podcast Girls in Hoodies and Nightcall, and the host of the upcoming legendary podcast Heidi World, The Heidi Fly Story. Please welcome back to the show, Molly Lambert! Hey! Do I get to do an AKA?

I don't know how this works. Molly Lambert, AKA NoHoMo. NoHoMo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'm Molly from North Hollywood. Exactly. The Lord of Lancashire.

You know what I mean? The fucking Magnolia Maven. The Chief of Chandler. Miles, you'll appreciate this. There was a fashion spread with Kendall Jenner recently in Elle magazine where it was like Kendall Jenner modeling the newest fall fashions in her hometown, on the streets of her hometown. And there's a big spread where you can clearly see a street sign for Sherman Way.

Okay. She is such a usurper for the valley name i know but she's been there for you know i will west valley west valley yeah and i get that and like and those are the kinds of people who's like act like they're not in the valley sometimes until it became like this other thing she got the or whatever the tequila brand tequila the uh appropriating tequila brand well good know. Well, good for her. You think she's actually been on Sherman Way, though? Well, she was in this photograph.

I just, I was shocked that she was standing on Sherman Way. But you know Sherman Way. Sherman Way is not glamorous. Sherman Way is her normal valley place. That's what I thought was so funny about it, is that I thought it was going to be her on, like, Rodeo. And then it was like, oh, no, they really shot her in the valley. Right. Or, like, in her hometown by the Calabasas Common. Exactly.

You know what I mean? It ain't all Sherman Way, fam. Yeah, come on. She's in Lost Hills. Yeah. Shout out to the North Hollywood Van Nuys people on Sherman Way. Shout out to the humble parts of the valley where miles might originate from. Yeah.

What's up, team? What's up, team? What's up, gang? Just living day by day wait is lost hills the same as hidden hills is that no they're they're maybe i think lost hills is a road that takes you to hidden right i think got it like an exit for sure yeah i think about it when i'm driving to malibu because i go through the valley because there's all those parts you go by things like, I'm never getting off this, on this, off ramp in my life. I'm just going to keep going.

Until we get invited to Drake's house for a party. When he raps about Hidden Hills. I just love it because it's so funny to me. Hidden Hills. Or also just kind of like Calabasas. From the part of the valley we're from, like, we're like, oh, okay, Hidden Hill.

Okay, Calabasas. Like, you guys are soft out there. Right. So, to hear, like, rappers, like, bigging up that area, it's just kind of funny. It's like, oh, that's your retirement area. Well, rappers all moved to the valley is what's funny. Like, Ice Cube lived in Encino for a long time. Yeah, a long time.

So, that's where he Went to school for a while. And I feel like Snoop moved to like Chatsworth, which was really funny. But again, it's like you can get more house for your money. You remember the Stallionaires who were on I Love New York? Of course I remember the Stallionaires. They were living right there off Canoga. I would see them at the Jerry's Deli right there all the time. Wow. I was like, are they Stallionaires? Wow. Yep, chance andoga. I would see them at the Jerry's Deli right there all the time. Wow.

I was like, are they stallionaires? Wow. Yep, Chance and Real. I love it. Rest in peace, I think, to Real. Oh, right. I mean, the conflict between Real Valley people and the Hidden Hills Valley people is the kind of central conflict of the great american text karate kid oh for sure i mean that's more that's also like uh right encino versus like van nuys is he supposed

to live in van nuys recita recita i just saw that movie for the first time like pretty recently and i was shocked how good it is it's yeah stands up i did like i started a podcast for five seconds called dorm canon where i was just gonna watch every frat guy movie but i did a really good podcast with my friend karen tongson who's gonna be on heidi world about karate kid because she was like oh as like a queer woman growing up in outside los angeles and like Riverside County. Like this movie spoke to me so much. I just wanted to be Daniel San so badly.

Yeah. Like our part of the valley, if there was a party in Calabasas, the kids who went to school out there prayed that us kids didn't hear about this house party. He's like, these fucks just showed up from crosstown oh we're the bridge and tunnel that's uh even in the valley and then everybody else can sit you know just just keep us we're fine that's why we're respectable yeah that's why you know we can hold our heads high because we didn't we didn't grow up in beverly hills karate kid and rocky both gave me a complex where i thought it was like glorious to get the shit beat out of you. Oh, wow.

It's like the protagonists in both of those just got the shit kicked out of them constantly. Raging Bull. You could do a whole triple feature. Yeah. Where are these men? You know? Who are like, it's manly to get the shit kicked out of you yeah just jack just jack yeah and i did get once once i got jump kicked in the chest by a bigger

kid and i was like yeah i'm like daniel son i'm just like i took it yeah yeah i took it uh yeah karate kid rules i just was astonished that it had like like gravitas you know that they get into like internment camps and stuff i was just yeah this is a real movie this is like a 70s movie in the 80s it's not like i thought it was just gonna be all like you know you're the best you're fucking killing it right punching everybody with karate yeah but no it's like it's like a sad movie it's great yeah that song you're the best around was originally written for rocky three wow you're the best around nothing's gonna that's not what i thought that song is what i thought the movie was gonna be like was just

how many how many parents did cocaine with a baby bjorn on with that song playing in the 80s just looking at i mean like all right my guests welcome to house party like in recita specifically yeah yeah everybody everybody all right molly we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners just All right, Molly, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Hurricane Ida and the looting myths that are already taking hold. Not even like, they're not saying that looting's happening. They're like looting fear, which is pretty wild.

We will talk about the new trend that walking is for libs. We'll talk about Jonathan Davis from Korn, who is bumming everybody out with very bad COVID symptoms. But he's still trying to push through. Which is the bummer part. Yeah. Oh, come on, bro. He can't even hit the dandaina anymore. Kid Rock is pissed at COVID.

We'll talk about why movie theaters are not coming with the vax mandate for some reason. I honestly don't know. I can't figure that out. It's not even an easy answer, like money? Right, because money would make it. Yeah, it's less profitable for them to avoid doing it. Anyways, Molly, before we get to any of that shit, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Last night I was reading about boxers because everybody was watching the...

Underwear? No, like the fisticuffs. Pugilists. Because my friend Jay King was talking about Logan Paul. Is it Logan or Jake Paul who's the one who fights MMA or whatever? They both do. Jake fought a lot. Just talking about how Jake is like a good character for fighting

because he's like a villain and everyone knows it and wants to see him get punched in the face. And if you know that you're the guy, back to Karate Kid. If you're the guy that people will tune in to see you get punched in the face and you're cool with that, that's a good lane. That's a good lane. So, yeah, I was comparing him to other. I was trying to look up who were some other famous Irish boxers of the 30s. other like famous irish boxers yeah of the 30s and then i found this guy whose name i already forget but who was like uh a famous irish boxer who was also like an actor and i was like that's

jake paul yeah right and was he also doing like black people versus white people boxing matches too i mean i think that was also what the 1930s was all about, right? The race wars in the ring, folks. Right? Because I was like, oh, it's weird that all the boxers were black, Jewish, Italian, and Irish. Right. Almost like those are the people that had to take the money to get their lives punched out. Right. Like, sort of, did you see yesterday?

A lot of people were like, did he take money to lose that fight? Because everyone was like, if you just kept? A lot of people were like, did he take money to lose that fight? Because everyone was like, if you just kept fighting him, you would have probably won. But then Woodley lost in a split decision. Yeah, and everybody was mad because they just tuned in to see Jake Paul get his lights clocked. Yeah, and that's the thing. You know what? And it's perfect. Like, as a money-making scheme, that's what you do.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, for a YouTuber, if you can get paid to just get punched in the face and you get like a few million dollars every time like do that until and you're an idiot who doesn't need a brain to function right keep doing that yeah but then also recently i looked up the paul siblings and found out we have the exact same white ethnic background so you may be oh am i related to the paul to the paul brothers yeah they're a little bit irish english and uh a little bit german and jewish allegedly oh okay i think i was also like the the paul brothers are jewish like i know nothing and also is that my internalized anti-semitism for seeing these blonde idiot guys

and not thinking they could be in the tribe you know yeah arian gods uh fighting on pay-per-view or most people are scared the other part is i like how many people steal the fights too to also be like first of all i need to see him get his ass beat part two i'm not paying to see his get his ass beat because i know part three he probably has the fight rigged or something i don't know well yeah he keeps fighting i mean he's carefully like selecting his opponents uh even though this guy was a professional mma fighter who used to be successful he hadn't won a fight in like eight fights and he's smaller than him he keeps fighting people who are much smaller than him because he's figured out that that's a massive advantage people basically outside his weight class

they're sort of turning it into wrestling which is like yeah pretty smart yeah absolutely it's very i mean if he hadn't invented himself like a like wrestling or like boxing promoter would have invented him to make money off of like evil social media influencer guy who everybody wants to see get destroyed who like keeps selecting his his opponents so that they will never destroy him and we just keep tuning in being like this is the one i really want the guy who's 60 pounds lighter and uh and nine inches shorter this right this will be the one that'll be them yeah i had no hope for this last one i am hoping that he fights miles garrett though the guy from the browns who would just fucking demolish him i hope he fights miles gray yeah i was gonna say

i thought yeah okay jack yeah yeah i feel like miles i back you you could take him i fight dirty I hope he fights Miles Gray. Yeah, I was going to say. I thought you'd be like, okay, Jack, yeah, back me. I feel like Miles, I back you. You could take him. I fight dirty. I fight dirty. You could fucking, you could hurt Jake Paul. Or I'll just start off crying. Again, though, you might just see him at a Calabasas house party and like.

Right, exactly. And then like push him. He looks at you the wrong way. And he says, what are you doing? And he does look just like Zapka, the villain from The Karate Kid. That's awesome. And he's like, hey, what are these East Valley kids doing out here in Count Bassus? Oh, what are we doing here?

Smoke, baby! And then all the goons come in and we steal all the things that aren't nailed down. Like we would at old house parties in nice places. Does everybody come out, which is still, oh, this ashtray. It was made of marble. There you go. What is something you think is overrated, Molly?

Board games. Board games. Okay. Yeah, everyone's always like, it'll be so fun to play a board game. Is it? What board game were you made to play recently? I don't do it anymore because every game were you made to play recently um i don't do it anymore because

every time i'm like made to play i'm like i'm also a little bit short attention span so i definitely i'm like oh okay that's enough of this right you haven't even done yet you're like well i'm the last one in the rotation what do you want me to do my friends tried to play clue and it's like it's uh not as fun as you might remember it being yeah yeah i've tried to play i like guess who i like guess that's my level yeah me too yeah connect four i mean that's not really a board game but no but like those are more in line with my attention span yeah yeah very basic like derogations on like very classic games yeah yeah 20 questions i like blackjack blackjack is the length of my attention span like my favorite board game just in terms of games i feel like even like poke my

friends were playing poker the other night i was like i can't play poker it takes too long everyone's got to pay too much attention yeah i get invited to poker nights or used to when it was like a thing yeah and i was like i just don't i know you may think i'd love to sit around the table and like bullshit i'm like i just people are always like we'll sit around and we'll hang out and play poker and it's like no you're gonna play poker or you're gonna hang out yeah there's no situation in which there isn't one person who's like, come on, guys, we're playing very seriously. But also, like, if there's any money involved, people start taking it seriously. And that is not fun.

Not fun to play. So, yeah. So, yeah. All games. Overrated. All group activity games. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?

Underrated? Stone Fruit. Really into Stone Fruit right now. It's Stone Fruit season. games yeah uh what is something you think is underrated underrated stone fruit really into stone fruit right now it's stone fruit season and there's this one stand at the atwater farmers market that has just like a hundred kinds of plums and peaches and things you've never seen before like what like like there's you know pluots and stuff like some of your basic hybrid what is that i see that written down i'm like it's like an apricot and a plum hybrid and also like all of the hybridizing is fine because i found out a few years ago that everything is a hybrid every like fruit that we have is like hybridized from a hundred kinds of fruit and like not to my parents

doesn't grow naturally that way but, there's one called a lipstick plum that is incredible. There's one called a flavor grenade. Really? Yeah, which I was like, first of all. It's being brought to you by the makers of Monster Energy.

Oh yeah. Hey, welcome to Fieri Farms. You want a fucking flavor grenade? You want this plum to blow up in your stomach with deliciousness it is really a flavor grenade wow so yeah i've just been getting into stone fruit right i just googled flavor grenade because i'm like is this like a vape flavor and then i see an article that says how to eat a flavor grenade pluot. And I'm like, whoa, how to how to's because you can't handle the flavor. Yeah, just like that's what's been bringing me bringing me joy lately is getting different kinds of stone fruit that I've never had before.

Or just like a really fucking good peach and being like, you know what? I appreciate that. I can't get this year round. Yeah. I feel like peaches, the difference between a peach in season and off season is like one of the biggest differences in fruit. Like a really good juicy peach is unparalleled. And I love plums too. We had like a plum tree in my parents' yard always.

And I think plums are underrated. Yeah. Very sweet. People talk about that poem all the time but like we don't talk enough about how how plums are really good the william carlos williams poem i think i have i have eaten the plums that were in the refrigerator forgive me they were so sweet and delicious so cold and so delicious People are always doing jokes about it on Twitter, but I'm always like, you know what? It's not a joke.

I would eat all those plums. Lychees, or as I call them, liches, are delicious stuff. Lychees. The colonizers call them, oh, French. Lychees. Just after Nick.

Lychees. I've run a flavor grenade now now that you say that and i'm looking at this picture of it i'm like i've not seen like i'm so used to purple looking plums and this has like this sort of almost red or red green apple right they're like the coolest colors they have different textures like some of them are like crunchier and some are softer is the name you know is it actually paying off on the name yeah for sure okay cool because you know you know how it is and i like it because they're just like no totally and especially with like plums it's like they're along this spectrum of sweetness and tanginess or like some are like tangier and some are sweeter and That's what I'm devoting my life to now, is exploring the spectrum of stone fruit.

Perfect. Stone fruit hive. Rise up. Rise up. Shout out to Flavnaids. You know, we see you. Flavnaids. All right, let's take a quick break.

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And as we record this, New Orleans is without power. I'm expected to be without power for a while, for hours. And it's Hurricane Ida. It hit landfall at a record strength and also, I think, set a record for how quickly it intensified. It went up 80 miles per hour in wind speed 24 hours, which is unprecedented. So we don't know much about what's happening in New Orleans because everything's been just knocked back to the Stone Ages. But the attention of the mainstream conservative media inevitably turns to looting. Big headline on the front page of

Drudge Report, which is one page that gets as many page views as like the entire New York Times, that gets as many page views as like the entire New York Times. It says looting fear in big red letters, which is like the hot headline. And it just sends you to a local news report that the police are saying they will be prepared for looting, like no reports of anything coming out of the area. But, you know, one of the first stories we talked about on this show was when Hurricane Harvey hit Houston. And there were a bunch of like fake Facebook groups claiming to be like the Houston Twitter group, Twitter accounts.

Yeah. There were clearly like white guys inventing marauding gangs just to basically justify murder. And it, it seems like that is more and more like, first of all, that's just studies have found that that is not really a problem in the aftermath of these major storms it's just been widely and wildly

exaggerated because it's the sort of thing that the white supremacist media you're saying that the news is just going to report on something that people are going to be like oh the chaos of it rather than something that is true and honest yeah it's crazy also to look at how yeah it's just the same exact narrative as we have in los angeles during the la riots it's like anytime there is a large you know anytime people are out that's immediately it becomes about like policing and stealing not right why people are out which is the real story that's too complex it's not like even like you said even with afghanistan too the talk is like all just about how many people got out how many people did biden get out today it's like yeah well hold on you just let george bush sob about it and not be a critical at all about this guy i'm like

really oh god it's really can't believe that happened rather than being like uh sir sir started with you do you have anything to actually say about this because this isn't this kind of this has your shit all over it but yeah it, it's, it seems like the, you know, the more and more we see that the media is just unable to do that. Yeah. I mean the, so the, there's actually like a lot of academic research into this and the academics are always surprised at the degree to which the existing like police and government fail in, in the, and the degree to which these spontaneous community groups come together to aid each other, which is such an amazing, counterintuitive, heartwarming, just all the things that you think the media would want to cover, and the exact thing that

a society that seems to be everywhere at odds with one another and crumbling would like desperately need to see. And instead it's covered up. And instead they use these isolated incidents to create, you know, a false sense that the purge is happening outside. Right. How much purge content do we have versus uplifting stories of communities coming together to aid each other mutually yeah okay right especially with the hurricane ida it's like i mean it's just again we see this every time now but what's happening on the news the tv news is so different from what's happening on twitter which is people like begging for help which is right you know both like good that anyone has an internet connection that they can't even post right now but also just horrifying to watch people being like please somebody come help us like no one's helping us yeah and this so this media bias and media myth actually kills people obviously like the racists go out with guns trying to stop the looting and,

you know, kill people. But also resources are diverted. Like Robert Evans has a new season, a bit could happen here that focuses on the coming sort of climate change, post-normal society that we're actually kind of already seeing. And he talks about this massive earthquake that happened in Alaska in the 60s. And it's one of the disasters where they actually got like boots on the ground academics there to study the disaster response. And they found that the first thing the police did was deputize a bunch of half drunk volunteers to stop people from, quote, looting, even though no looting had been observed. The police chief was so worried about disorder that he almost immediately suspended the search for survivors. collapse around exactly yeah and like the fact that the new orleans police department as the story that's being linked from judges talking about is currently focused on stopping looting is you know a misuse of resources instead of just getting supplies to survivors helping stranded

survivors they're like the first of all like it shouldn't even be a crime like when people are desperately in need of resources and everything has crumbled and like there's fucking things to take people can loot let people loot if people are looting it's because they don't have enough yeah the focus on looting people aren't yeah they're not selling frozen eggo waffles on ebay a couple hours later you know what i mean like i don't and i don't care if someone takes the tv like yeah honestly who gives a shit like it fucking cares it reminds me of the whole thing in america where if anybody gets caught like exploiting the social safety net in a way like that becomes like this massive story and like the first question that anyone has to answer to about like social you know unemployment benefits

is like how are you going to prevent people who don't deserve them to from getting them and it's just like two out of a thousand right exactly i was just tweeting at me too because i was tweeting about unemployment benefits ending in california soon and they are in louisiana and said they've been evacuated and that they are that louisiana cut off unemployment recently before the hurricane so that people who are unemployed right now and going through the hurricane and evacuating like are also being cut off from unemployment which is insane because they need it right now very badly yeah yeah there's this real again even with the media they can't even look at things like survival crime and even articulate what that would mean to an audience no and like what does it mean what are crimes of

survival and why are people engaging in them rather than like this big like capital c crime that they think everything fits under for sure i mean there was a moment last summer during the la protests that i don't know if you guys remember this there was like a camera crew in van nuys where some some people were trying to get the police to come no it was like these people who had a pawn shop and they were like trying to flag down the police to help them protect the pawn shop and then the police held them up at gunpoint because they were black and this woman who was watching was like no no no these are the people who own the pawn shop and like again just like even in those situations it was just crazy also to see the news who was trying to push this looting narrative confronted with this moment

of like uh no those are the people you're supposed to be protecting and serving that you are you know assaulting and harassing on camera in front of this news reporter yeah and rather than reporting on how bloated police budgets are let's bring in sheriff alex vienaueva to talk about this military technology that's being deployed on camera right now and like that would be the coverage and you're like what a fucking disservice right i mean we also see people in los angeles we see the sheriff's department like pointing assault weapons at homeless people on the venice boardwalk you know it does just feel like everything is so fucked up right now and uh every time we have a large crisis like

on the one hand it's very inspiring to see people banding together and donating and trying to help each other forming mutual aid networks in the absence of any help from anyone in charge on the other hand it's still uh very disappointing every time when this is how uh an act of god plays out right we'll call it an act of god but won't give people the empathy that maybe god would yeah so yeah i've seen a lot of people talking about how the cajun navy is doing a lot of the relief work themselves in Southeast Louisiana. So yeah, you can donate to CajunNavyRelief.com.

Those are private citizens with boats that go there. Yeah. There's a nonfiction book by Dave Eggers called Zaytoon about the aftermath of Katrina. And this guy was just a contractor who happens to have a canoe and goes around and like takes care of, you know, stranded neighbors and their pets. And the National Guard like arrests him and puts him in federal custody for basically being a brown person and takes him months to get out. And they like continue to harass him for like years and i mean yeah i think the thing is not just that like they're bad at providing aid in the aftermath it's like they actively

prevent others from provide providing aid because they have an incentive to make it seem like when they're not around and properly functioning the world crumbles right they're the they're the last line between us and the fucking purge right right and again we saw in los angeles last summer they were the cops are the ones doing the purge right against the citizens and also i'm sure they hate to see that people are when the absence of police or whatever structured the infrastructure in the aftermath of a you know natural disaster is absent that people are just like no we're helping each other we're not going door to door to fuck each other up like it's it's about on some level you the the chaos brings out just sort of like this general baseline of humanity of people up but yeah the overall statistics say that no crimes go up in the aftermath of a disaster the only crime

that has been shown to consistently go up is domestic violence which of course you never hear about because it's a thing that the police don't don't care about because they're often complicit in it and yeah i don't know it's just i i feel like more and more these are the sorts of stories that like we need to hear because it's like the media and the just the news from the world is so bleak and it they're actively being suppressed the idea that like community community aid and mutual aid is a solution like those are actively approved yeah i think people saw that through the pandemic too that a lot of people are just like oh like we are really on our own here and that means you have to take care of each other and that's uh it yeah and the the habits of the media it's always like okay if it's a disaster

it's chaos and looting and we're not even gonna really bother looking for anything except these like couple things we know are stories that we'll report on also you would think they would have learned something from how badly they covered katrina but obviously not no they didn't learn anything and yeah it's very horrifying the people because the people that are really getting fucked over in this situation are mostly poor and people of color and yeah the news does not report on them because yeah uh it's racist yeah why are you talking about them but yeah you look too just even where things are happening they call it cancer alley right there in louisiana like it's a lot of low-income people

of color who live in that area who are going to bear the brunt of it because that's like places are built in places that are going super fun sites yeah yeah there's a uh an example where photojournalists posted pictures during the aftermath of Katrina of people walking through chest high water. And when it was a white person, they were described as having found food. And when it was a black person, it was described as having looted food. And I think that's all you need to know about. Yeah. I mean, you have to also think about, like, how many of these people in Louisiana right now live through Katrina. And this is like, you know, like your worst nightmare coming back. Right, right. Talk about a new research poll from Pew that is revealing one of the big differences between red and blue that we weren't aware of.

I wasn't personally aware of. Yeah. Kind of makes sense. Well, what is this new arena for political engagement? It is over the topic of walking around your town yeah so when they look at these they they just took a quick survey i'm just curious about like in the post-pandemic do people want to like live in larger homes or that might maybe more spread apart with distance between them do would they rather be closer to people and be able to walk to places and just have

like more of that kind of thing so apparently only 22% of conservatives that they pulled want to live in a walkable neighborhood, while 77% prefer driving everywhere. But what's funny though, too, is when it comes down to Democrats or people who identify as liberals, they say 40% of moderate Democrats and 57% of liberals, quote unquote, want walkable neighborhoods, resulting in a 50-50 split among Democrats. So it's just odd to look at these numbers. Like, sure, I can understand why if you love your fucking truck or whatever, you want to walk around or drive around or merely because you don't want to be around people but to think like for what you'd see as like stereotypical liberal ideology would be more like environmentally conscious and maybe you'd think that people would be like oh i would like better design of or better planning of my city so i could walk around and do things like that but it seems like they're split a little bit more. Yeah. I guess I understand why conservatives don't want a walkable neighborhood, but like,

what is the, so they just don't want people walking past their house. I think it's the same thing, right? If you're, you don't want a sense of community problem, ultimately. No,

you want your house, you want your, your land and no one's allowed on your land. You want your land and no one's allowed on your land. We see this in Los Angeles where it is not a walkable city and not a great public transportation city, although it's gotten better in some ways. Slowly. Slowly. Where, yeah, it's like people don't even want other people's cars parked on their block because homeownership makes people fucking insane.

I think this issue is super complicated, especially in California, because the walkable cities thing is also like sometimes that's a dog whistle for gentrification. Right. But what we really need is just like better public transport i mean i think some of the walkable city stuff is also like taking this european idea of the walkable city where everything's central that hasn't existed in california or anywhere in the united states since like the 1950s you know ever since car culture like yeah they're like hey what if we gave you a bunch of money to make sure people had to have a car to live in this place right for sure but even like even walkable cities even places like new york that are like we're the place where you can go everywhere you know people have cars and people move to the suburbs and then drive from the suburbs

the idea of the suburbs is really the thing that killed walkable cities. And liberals are just as into the suburbs as anyone else. Right. This thing with like, especially in L.A., right? Like there's because people don't aren't really pedestrians. They're in their cars all the time. It really diminishes your ability to feel connected to anyone else. Oh, I completely disagree with that. I totally disagree with that i totally disagree with that because

i think the idea that you're like connecting with people around with you that new yorkers are always like yeah i'm just talking to everybody on the subway running into my friends all over town absolutely not people can be completely isolated in a crowd of people in fact you can feel the loneliest you've ever felt in a huge crowd of strangers you know everyone is not your friend necessarily immediately i have all kinds of social interactions from my car i have like dazed and confused interactions which to me is like just as counts just as much just like talking to somebody on the street what are dazed and confused interactions where you like talk to somebody on the street. What are dazed and confused interactions?

Where you talk to somebody out of your car, where you roll down your window and talk to somebody. I went out the other night, and I talked to some guys on a motorcycle who started hitting on us from the motorcycle. And then I went to Del Taco at midnight, and I ran into my friend michelle who was also at del taco at midnight just in the line at the drive-thru yeah nice honking behind you

yeah yeah yeah so that's what i'm saying you know but i think the reason i bring that up right is because i i totally agree in that even just being physically in proximity to someone doesn't necessarily create a sense of community. But there is a way that you can absolutely shut yourself off by being in a car all the time in a way that like it's much easier to insulate yourself. I know there are ways to do that in many walkable. What do you think? No headphones, man. Like people are putting their earbuds in. They say, you know, headphones, man, like people are putting their earbuds in. But there's a difference, right, between you never seeing somebody like, you know, of of any different social class or whatever.

And you have whatever idea built up because it's born out of some media diet or whatever your social group says about a given another group. And I think being in a car really does allow that to reinforce in a way that I think is can be pretty exceptional. I think you are very much you're a very social person. I'm a social person. I also cross the line. But I think there is, like, even for me recently, right, I started riding my bike more, because I wanted to be I wanted to, like, actually feel like be around my neighborhood, see people out of their homes too, and reinforce this idea that like, I'm also around other human beings that are trying to live in the same way versus it's easy to get caught up inside. I guess more so in the pandemic to get inside your house

and just start creating a sense of the world that might not actually exist because of like what you're consuming media wise. So for me, I mean, maybe this is just more of a personal thing. I found it a lot easier to be like in public space around other people. And I'm not necessarily talking to people, but there is something that just feels different than being in a car and just like, just having,

you know, like completely sort of insulated. Yeah. I guess it's also like, I feel like, you know, like people drive somewhere to walk, know yeah right so it's like people do walk they just have to drive somewhere to walk there because it is a gigantic place and we don't have the greatest public

transportation right it's like yo let's uh let's drive 40 minutes to go walk 40 minutes pretty much that is you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think that's what I love about biking or I'm getting more into it now. I'm cutting down a lot of short stuff. I like biking. I think biking in LA is kind of terrifying because of the car culture. You know, I've been other places where I'm like, it's easier to bike here because it's a bike.

Like, I do think having real bike lanes would be great for for la we could use a lot more bike lanes everything is definitely centered around cars i do think cars here are a little bit like guns in texas and that you will pry them out of our cold dead hands right right right you know because that's how yeah like so i do think we're just gonna get we got to get better electric cars rather than trying i don't think there's going to be an la without cars ever probably no no people are to habit like just habitually just there will be an la without cars but it'll be after like yeah that's when the roaches are running yeah yeah but yeah like you know my partner for example she's from dc so her outlook on using a car is so

different than mine being a valley scum rat kid who like the car was your like to me was like liberation like when you're younger and so there are a lot of times she's like why wouldn't you just walk there and i'm catching myself like this is LA. And then I'm like, man, I'm completely fucking, I'm not even looking at things in a way that will allow me to like, actually just make a short walk. You could have good public transportation and walkability, but then you'd have to live in Washington,

DC. That's the trade off. I mean, as we found out in the movie crash, sometimes those of us in LA crash our. crash our dang cars into each other. That's what I'm saying. Just to feel connected. Maybe it's just me.

Maybe it is because I just go out cruising all the time looking for action and like, you know. Crashing into people. Vibing with the city, as Miles once said, he thinks I do all day, which is what I do all day. he thinks I do all day which is what I do all day but yeah I do just think like the idea that car culture is inherently isolating is not I don't think it's true yeah but also yeah it's nice to walk I walk around in my neighborhood but also because LA is so spread out it's like sometimes you walk somewhere and you don't see anybody yeah and it's and I think that's what's also kind of a bummer too because like i'll go on parts of like the la river and bike and like you'll see these like pockets where there's a lot of people and then suddenly i'm like it's there's like tumbleweeds and shit well i love the tumbleweeds

yeah but i mean you know this is again back to like the urbanism stuff like the big issues in california are that we need more dense housing for people because we are a city of a lot of people, but there's all these single family homes and that's what everybody thinks they get if they go to California. But we can't have that anymore. And again, I do think people are going to maybe hold on to that idea a little bit with their cold dead hands as climate change happens yeah well i think yeah because we were sort of all inundated and like inoculated with the concept like american wealth building is based on real estate holdings right which doesn't work anymore when the houses are burning down all the time and being, you know, flooded by hurricanes.

And especially as insurance companies start to drop people that are in natural disaster zones, which is what I think Mike Davis said is probably going to happen next. You know, because so far it's just been like everything burns down in Malibu or whatever, and then they just build it back bigger every time. Right. But there will come a point when the insurance companies refuse to do that. But then what happens, like banks are like lobbying and they're like, homeowners insurance is a right. Like it's fucking medical insurance. You know what I mean? No.

And I think, I don't know. I think people are also just thinking about where they do want to live. I do think that I do know some liberals who moved to some walkable cities because they were like, if I'm stuck at home during the pandemic, I'd rather be somewhere I can like walk around and walk to a place that I want to go. Then in the suburbs where i thought i wanted to be right and just walk four miles and all you see is like a desolate spearmint rhino like an industrial park okay but that's the beauty to me miles you know that like oh i love it but i'm saying yeah like people don't know they're not used to that one in north hollywood well yeah but that's like we walked to the Century 8, which

I think is a different theater called something else now, maybe. But I looked it up recently on Yelp and was very delighted to see that the reviews were like, this place is still very scary at night. Yeah.

Spookiest fucking theater in town. Everybody was like, this is the sketchiest parking lot i've ever been in i was like man i love the valley yeah they're like no they shot a fucking uh what's not wonder captain marvel in that park did they i think so you're talking about the one in north hollywood right well yeah there's there's a couple of scary theaters in north hollywood though yeah but that one by the old wells fargo Bank that has like the huge mural on it by the 1970s. Oh, that's the other one. That's the UA. United Artists.

That one's closed forever, I think. Century 8 is still open and you can go see movies there. Because I was like, now that the Arclight's closed, where can I go see, like if I wanted to see a Fast and the Furious movie? Like where would I even go? Yeah. I was like, what if I just start going to that theater again?

Which I could walk to. So maybe that brings it back. Maybe you're right. Maybe we all love walkability. That's right. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk about how COVID is affecting rap rock legends of our youth.

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there's some parrots outside and you and Miles were talking about the fact that that is a thing in LA that there's yeah there's some wild parrots on the east side. Yeah. Fucking rules. There's also some wild peacocks from...

No, that's just Highland Park. You want York too much. Hey, LA jokes. All right. Get the peacocks out. But that's... So it was like somebody had them as a pet and then let let them go and like they became yeah and i feel like there's a lot of stories like that in la because like when i

was a little kid and we lived in hollywood there were like some loose bunnies yeah right that would hop be on your lawn there would be like like white bunnies you know not like a wild rabbit but like a like a yeah magician's rabbit and the rumor was like maybe they came from the magic castle right because you know what bunnies do yeah they make more bunnies yeah they can't stop the two i feel like the two big stories i read about the wild parrots in la is one because there was like oh okay so they said there was a wilderness foundation but it burned down in a brush fire in the 60s and then so many of the people they released the birds so they wouldn't die then and then they just started you know doing their own thing and

another one is because the old budweiser the bush gardens theme park in van nuys that was there like the 70s apparently i didn, apparently. I didn't know that. I didn't realize that. When they shut down, they had wild birds there, too, that they're like, fuck it, man. Just let them go. Or they say they escaped. So now we have our own parrot population out here. Oh, yeah.

The Bush Gardens, if you look it up, the Valley Relics Museum posts about it sometimes. But the Bush Gardens was, like like a theme park in the valley that had some weird rides and stuff. It was a brewery, and that's what that Simpsons episode I guess, making fun of the Duff Gardens is about. You know what I'm talking about?

Duff beer for me. It's because there was a beer theme park in the valley, and there was another one over by the Arroyo Seco. That was like a bush. The first one was like a botanical garden and then the second one was like a theme park. Oh, shit. Sorry.

I've been watching a lot of the defunct theme park videos on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Defunct land. The best. Defunctland, the best. They, like, I wonder if there will be just, like, flocks of macaws and, like, parrots in USA. Because, like, squirrels in the 1850s, like, squirrels were super rare. Like, people were like, oh, my God, do you see that squirrel over there? And then they, like, started adding them as, like, a novelty as they built out parks.

And then now they are ubiquitous. They run it. Yeah. Wow, that's amazing. Teasing all of our pets. Yeah. Well, just so you know, there's a lot of exotic bird content in Heidi World. There you go.

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Pretending you don't know that the singer of Korn is named Jonathan Davisis uh guys don't don't tell anybody about all the corn shit in the background yeah yeah you should see if he if he pulls his bottom lip down he has the follow the leader album cover you mean the band that was originally called lapd laughing as people die Laughing as people die. Damn. Wait, why'd they change it? Right? Yeah, fuck.

So yeah, Jonathan from Korn. He got sick with COVID earlier in the month and he had to cancel some shows. And after getting the all clear, in terms of him returning negative tests and things like that, he promptly hit the road again. But his performances have been like just this ghoulish reminder that like covid can fuck you up a lot of people like an anti-vaxxer here's the thing that when he when

he first canceled the shows they said his vaccination status was unknown but then afterwards they said he was he was vaccinated but he was still sick so what regardless you know whatever it was it's just interesting to see that the sort of lead up to some of the first shows were like kind of underlining how grim everything was so before one of the like first return shows the guitarist brian head welch sent a message to like the Korn fans. And it was like, like, we need you guys. So here is Brian Head Welch saying, hey, like, Jonathan needs you guys. He's kind of not doing well. Jonathan Davis is still struggling with the COVID after effects.

after effects um he's physically weak and having a mental battle and any type of love light and energy you can throw at him prayers all of it um we have shows coming up so all of you guys check the dates whatever show you're going to throw him some love and energy man he needs you more than ever so yeah that was a bit of a preview of things to come because he then went on to do a show where he basically you know it was in it was in chicago and he needed oxygen at certain parts of the show because it was just like really you could just tell how exhausted he was and so like they set up like a big throne for him to like kind of you know chill on and you know how like old timey rock stars will put the throne up to be like i ain't moving anymore yeah yeah i saw guns and roses after axel uh hurt his leg at coachella and he just sat on the throne the whole time.

Oh, you went to the throne shows, huh? Look at you. Because he couldn't dance. He heard himself doing the snake dance. So then at the Coachella, which was the big gig of this reunion tour, he just had to sit down the whole time and sing. This is Jonathan getting after the first song.

Just let me know what you think of his whole energy here it might be the fuck down y'all i'm fucking feeling very weak now but i fucking refuse to fucking cancel i had to come out here and fucking do this i've been there for you all my whole entire fucking career i'm very emotional i'm sorry but i've been there for you guys my whole career tonight i need your help please you see me in a chair whatever i'm gonna do my motherfucking best tonight and that's all i can do so he's saying please y'all i need you and i just there's times like i'll just show you he he

had to like he'll hit a note he'll sit down and then he just kind of has to go grab like oxygen this is him taking oxygen on the side of the stage oh no like being like yeah oh this is such a bummer it's like I need oxygen yeah this whole thing is just like bumming me out because he the way he's speaking and the way even like head was speaking sort of like y'all Jonathan's not doing well and he needs you and it's almost like is he unable to say no i just want to say that i'm reading jonathan davis's wikipedia right now i did once write a defense of corn um the my magnum opus on corn i'm not against corn i think it's sad because he has an incredible voice so this is like

especially like you're like that's I'm no Korn apologist especially I mean we've seen what was Homeboy who was playing on Mike Huckabee's show when they were battling on bass and shit I was like alright y'all the politics are bad but I'm pro new metal

and I'm pro bands from Bakersfield. But apparently, Jonathan Davis suffered severe bouts of asthma as a child, had to stay in the hospital every month from the age of 3 to 10, and survived a critical asthma attack when he was 5 years old. So this is only putting him in a dark spot. It was just one of those moments when I was looking, I'm like, who's making you do these shows, Jonathan? I know it's one thing to maybe push against it and be like, I'm going to power through it. But on some level, it was just kind of those moments when I was looking, I'm like, who's making you do these shows, Jonathan? Like, I know it's one thing to maybe push against it and be like, I'm going to power through it.

But on some level, it was just kind of bumming me out. The only reason I brought it up is like, oh, it's so hard to watch someone like, A, you realize how much they've been, so much has been taken out of them from going through COVID and then still like insisting on doing a thing where like they need oxygen. Just like he literally played the bagpipe. So it's just like to see him unable to breathe. Oh, man. Producer Anna says, Zombie from Zionite died when he was recovering from COVID and had an asthma attack and dropped dead.

Yeah, that was also really, really sad. It's really... I think musicians, especially people that do... I understand why people want to get back out on tour and get back out on stage. Well, another person who is feeling the effects of COVID is Kid Rock. He's had to cancel some upcoming shows because of COVID infections in his band. And he is pissed at COVID, dude. Yeah, dude.

Because the only way that men Know how to process emotion Is through anger Now get in the pit and try Love someone So he says quote I am pissed Over half the band has fucking COVID this is a tweet that he put out

And yet oh and before You shit for brains bloggers And media trolls run your mouths Many many of them, like me, have been vaccinated. Oh, many of them. Okay. Not across the board. Okay. Yeah.

And then you're sort of like, wait, wait, wait. Weren't Charlotte Sturgis just a little bit ago? Isn't that where you might have been? And it's funny because during Sturgis, he posted this fucking shot of him and his gigantic crowd. Again, we went over how everyone's like, yeah, that Sturgis is caused a few spikes in the area. Like, wasn't 3,400% spike? 3,600% spike in Meade County where Sturgis is. And were people not vaccinated?

I mean, there was, you know, at Sturgis, the rules are like, do whatever the fuck you want. We're not going to make you right well that's what i assume is that what we're talking about overall is like a stripe of a certain type of like libertarian guy yeah who i can see being like i'm not gonna get the vaccine and being like fuck it i am gonna get the vaccine you can't tell me what to do anyone ever my and then you're like kovitz fucking up my money and you're like yeah well that's what he cares about but they're both definitely like you know right wing leaning libertarians so i'm surprised i guess i'm a little surprised kid rock is vaxxed except that he uh you know a lot of people say the whole kid rock thing is a persona because he's like from the suburbs and uh right

right right private school guy yes he cares about his his uh his health yeah it's correct even though kid rock wouldn't care kid rock would not give a fuck but i think you know the guy who is kid rock wants to live right yeah his name what's his real name it's like bob ritchie baby yeah it's like buckley bob ritchie just alright, Bob. His sister was in my play. Oh, shit. One of my hit plays when I was a teenager. Oh, hell yeah. This picture of him, though, with the surges crowd, he just said, quote,

there's nothing the mainstream media or internet and social media trolls can do, but look at this pic and weep, knowing they will never beat us. Fuck them. Love to you all. And then to know, it's like a few, like 10 days later, I'm pissed.

Half the band has fucking COVID. Also, like if we could see how many of the people in this crowd are either in the hospital right now, or we would, right. You know? Yeah.

Yeah. That mean like, like let's say some of his band is vaxxed and they get Delta, and that means that they can't go on tour. Is that because it's like you can't insure people? Probably. That probably has a lot to do with it. Yeah. Maybe.

Because I would assume he would just let his fucking band members with COVID go on tour otherwise, you know? Yeah. Like, if they're unvaxxed and they're going to the hospital or just genuinely super fucked up, that makes sense. But if they're vaxxed, they have it. Yeah. I would just see him being like, fucking man up. Or just like how the, you know, big business thinks, too. It's like, well, I don't want to hire people.

And then if they get sick, like, then they're going to sue me. Right. Is it like you have to pass a COVID test to, like, play a venue? Or is that not even a thing still? Probably depends on where you are honestly because some states are just like yeah man whoever the fuck you want yeah like texas that's right they were doing all those comedy shows early on yeah still going on still going on oh molly uh as always such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist where can people find you and follow you well thanks for having me and uh putting up with the parrots in the background you can find me i love the parrots

twitter.com forward slash molly lambert instagram molly underscore lambert i will be back on the airwaves with the heidi fly story Heidi World podcast. Yeah, yeah. And you can find me every Tuesday night on a little Twitch show called Deckheads Chiefs Deuce with producer Anna Hostia where we talk about Below

Deck and also other Bravo shows every Tuesday night at 6pm PST on the old twitch.tv forward slash deckheadspot. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? You know, I just can't think of one, guys.

I'm tapped out. Too much stone fruit. Yeah. Hey, everyone get a flavor grenade. Everybody owes themselves a flavor grenade. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? instagram at miles of gray also if you like we've got more reality fair you like below deck check out deckheads you like 90 day fiance come through to see 420 day fiance with me and sophie alexandra and that's also twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance so you can

check that out there a tweet that i like i have a couple one is from uh actually zeitgang listener at josh rice films he tweeted a picture like a meme at me he said i think you can appreciate this it's zach de la roca from rage because you know the whole cops not getting vaccinated thing so it's just like this picture of zach on the mic and says some of those that work forces want the pace that's for horses. Shout out Ivermectin. And also another one, Trash Jones at Jay Zucks. Did it hurt when you graduated with a BA in English?

Yeah. That did hurt. Yeah. To all the English majors out there. I wasn't even an English major, but I also had a stupid major. what was yours oh it's called art semiotics oh shit and you can tell how useful it is semiotics from what i just said a major you have to explain it's just media studies fucking media studies with a stupid name but it's semiotics i love it. Dude, they're more than just works of art. It's the study of science.

The study of the M. Night Shyamalan movie science. That is essentially what it is. Andrew T tweeted, conservative comedy sucks because every time they do a right-wing daily show, it's always I identify as a dog in

the open and monica lewinsky jokes by act two of the pilot but find something funnier than taking a horse drug that gives you diarrhea and then dying of covid and i think it's hard hard to find anything funnier than that and then cody dr mr cody johnston tweeted cordon in the mouse costume joyously thrusting at the driver is deeply disturbing prison for a day i don't i don't know if you guys saw that clip but i saw something of him in that gray suit and people were like what is happening that movie the camilla cabello cinderella that's coming straight to video gonna Gonna be a camp classic. Just calling it now. Cats fans get in line. This movie's gonna be so bad. We're all gonna watch it.

It is a modern remake of Cinderella where she's a girl boss and they use all new pop songs. It's giving me big from Justin to Kelly energy in the promo. Nobody can act in it.

And it looks like it was shot for $20 on a soundstage. So I used all that money licensing all those non-original works. That's right. If you were like, man, I wish somebody would Hamiltonize the story of Cinderella. Right. Right. This is the movie that we're all going to watch. I think she's a

shoe designer. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, this is very, very good. I'm really liking this. Oh, yeah. Why don't we watch

the trailer and screen share just for fun as we go out? Yeah, we may have to do that then. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore

O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, what song are we suggesting people go check out so there's a rap duo called paris texas it's not the other band this is a rap duo from compton and they have i've gotten real more and more into the shit that they're making because they're like they're rapping but they're also kind of doing their thing just like over like really great like sort of garage rock band beats uh kind of like you're listening to like uh like white stripes or something but there are people rapping over it and it's got a lot of style to it and i'm just like one of those things you're hearing like damn this is fucking dope so this track is called force of habit and we're gonna go out on that so this is

force of habit by paris texas check that out. Go find it. Go download it. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. It's going to do it for us this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.

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