The Daily Zeitgeist - I Fought The Mouse And The Mouse Won 04.19.23

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

In episode 1466, Miles and special guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by Neha Aziz, to discuss... NRA's Pure Evil Fest 2023 in Indiana, DeSantis vs. Disney (tagline: Whoever Wins, We Lose), The J...oe Biden/Scooby Doo Mask Conspiracy Theory and more! Everything Trump Said About Mass Shootings in NRA Speech (newsweek.com) Kids as young as six handle real firearms at the NRA convention | Daily Mail Online A timeline of the DeSantis-Disney fight in Florida (tampabay.com) Viral Video of Joe Biden Scratching Neck Sparks Wild Conspiracy Theory (newsweek.com) LISTEN: Zone 1 to 6000 by Nabihah Iqbal See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
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Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you
Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello internet and welcome to season 283 episode 3 of the daily zeitgeist this is still a production of iheart radio and it is that motherfucking podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness it's Wednesday April 19th I'm gradually gonna bring my volume higher because I do have my my son with me okay let's just get into it it's Wednesday April 19th 2023 you said what day is that I know that it's 4 420 minus 1 The day is upon us but it's also National hanging out day and I think it's for People that hang dry their laundry
Starting point is 00:02:09 Shout out all the people of color, immigrant people That come to this country who don't fuck with dryers Because we hang that shit Also my mom was like it keeps the colors Looking way better when you're not hitting it with the dryer So it's also National garlic day, love garlic To cure off everything National national banana day some other shit a couple states whatever it is what it is my name is
Starting point is 00:02:31 miles gray aka big daddy gray uh father of the geist child who is with me in the studio i just want to bring him into the frame really quick oh my god you hear that hi hi baby hi this is oh this is my baby this is for the people on the call that can see him. The guy shout, hello, say something. Yeah? No? Okay, he's silent. That's okay. I don't want to inspire too much noise out of him. But I am doing
Starting point is 00:02:56 this podcast with my son in my arms because I'm just trying to do it all right now. First of all, shout out to all the motherfucking parents out there. This shit is a fucking commitment. And I realized how quickly I would start sounding like a fucking Hallmark ad. I've been like the real people that dedicate themselves day in, day out. These parents.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Shout out to my parents, your parents. And if you're a parent, I fuck with you because this shit is not easy, but very fulfilling. Anyway, I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host with the most. Allow me to welcome. Oh, yeah, you like her too? I know. She's a fantastic producer, podcast host, film critic, activist. I'll say just a general person about town.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Please welcome to the microphone, Joelle Moniz. Thank you, Miles and Geist, baby. What a lovely introduction. I'm going to give you all some AKs. AKA Cinema Princess, The Lipstick Don, DC Lover. Let's see what James Gunn does with that bad bitch. Yeah, it's good to be here. Hello. Oh, good to have you. Good to have you.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And look, let's just jump right into it. Our guest today is a fantastic podcaster you may know her from her fantastic show partition uh which you know was what's talked about and also one of our first next up fellows uh and also a programmer of film festivals a writer filmmaker documentarian i'm running out of hyphens as well for this person, but please welcome to the microphone our guest today, Neha Aziz. Hi, what an introduction. Thank you. He liked that too. When I screamed your name, his body just did a whole convulsion. So love it. Yeah. How are you? What's new? It's been a minute since we've had you on and I feel like so much time has passed.
Starting point is 00:04:43 The podcast is complete. It ended in October and like when I was here I think it was, I think only maybe two episodes had come out. Yeah. So it's been a second and yes, I am going to be a filmmaker. I'm making my first film in the summer shooting in Austin. Wish me luck.
Starting point is 00:05:00 It's going to be awful shooting in July in Texas in the summer. But yeah, so I'm very excited to make my directorial debut with the short film and you know look out for that crowdfunding campaign gonna happen next month you know um it's api month two so you know that can be one of your good deeds to help us out so yeah well what is this a film that you're writing or you're just yes writing directing okay i just wanted to make sure because I don't want you to tell yourself short. So you're writing and directing this?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yes. Can you give us a little like inspiration? Yeah, sure. So it's like just like a slice of life story between two South Asian characters who haven't seen each other in over a decade. They knew each other in college, you know, but obviously like life happens and, you know know they're in their early 30s and the female character has stayed in Austin since graduating and uh the male character has um has like since moved but is now moving back to Austin and I just kind of wanted to imagine a narrative where like two people may have a potential second chance at something it could be a friendship it could be a relationship it just could be like a random encounter and then I kind of use like the gentrification of Austin as a passage of time.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And it's a slice of life story, dialogue driven, you know, like 13 minutes. Hopefully it won't be a disaster. No, no, never. It's going to be great. I love a slice of life, like the genre in general. And I feel like particularly in america there aren't enough slices of life so they're like what's the point of the story to love these characters and the dialogue that was written for your exact right yeah where's the robot yeah i also want
Starting point is 00:06:35 to point out that like people of color have the same struggles too like we have trouble with our jobs we have unrequited love that is not unique to white people it transcends boundaries and backgrounds and religions and culture so we're also regular people yeah and i love how yeah whenever there's like those are some of the best films too especially from like from an audience standpoint as a person of color when you see those are like yeah treat this shit as normal rather than trauma porn yeah exactly yeah we be buying shit too you know and we some people get our orders wrong at restaurants and sometimes we don't want to send it back to okay we can have little scenes like that also without
Starting point is 00:07:17 being like and is this a magical negro or just a slice of life we're just regular people out here um well that's dope and i can't wait to hear more about that and i'll be back as you get that moving we are going to get to know you even better now in a second but first let's tell people some of the stories that we're going to be tuning in to first the nra convention happened uh over the weekend and you know just with the sheer number of shootings that we're hearing about from you know uh that one young man who was shot in the head because he knocked on the wrong door to a 20 year old woman who was shot and killed because their car pulled into the wrong house they were like looking for another house or some shit um
Starting point is 00:07:55 i mean gun violence is obviously at an all-time high but that didn't stop the ghouls over at the nra so we'll just see what the fuck was going on over there while all of this terrible nonsense is happening around the country, you know, truly at the hands of their lobbying efforts. And then we'll make a move on down to the state of Florida where Ron DeSantis is taking on the mouse. Okay, he's going for like, what
Starting point is 00:08:18 is it, round three or some shit, trying to fight Disney because they just don't agree with him. We'll just check in with the state of that relationship. And we'll also talk about the Joe Biden mask conspiracy because that shit is back where people are like, this guy got a mask on and they're like showing him scratches like old neck skin. I'm like, yeah, old neck skin be doing that. It's not a fucking mask. So we will touch on that. But before we do all that, got to ask you, Neha, Aziz, what is something from your search history? Okay, so I was living my best life on Saturday night and I made pasta and watched the animated film Anastasia.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Neha! Love. Yes! It's on Hulu. If people want to watch it and just have a really fucking great time. And so I kind of went through a rabbit hole of looking with the legend of Anastasia and like how like she actually wasn't missing and they have found like remains and just kind of went through there. And then I went through another rabbit hole because of that, looking at Aaliyah because she sang one of the songs from the soundtrack. And so then I was looking at the plane crash. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I just like went on a bunch of crazy things. So this all started with a very non-accurate film about Anastasia. That is so great. Okay. I'm going to take that. And then I went through all of this. I'm going to take it point by point. You made pasta.
Starting point is 00:09:35 What kind of pasta? What kind of sauce? I made a vodka pasta, rigatoni. Amazing. Rigatone. Okay. All right, phones. I see you out here.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And then, wait. So, I mean, I remember when Anastasia came out. It was it was what was that like 94 or something like that 97 oh 97 okay so i was like 94 was usually like when i became cynical as a kid i was like that's for babies uh so what what like and i saw and i saw you joelle too you jumped up when you heard Anastasia. Is that like a whole vibe? Dope as princesses. Here's the thing. Until Anastasia comes out, all princesses are romantic interests. So essentially, except for maybe.
Starting point is 00:10:16 The Little Mermaid. She's kind of got her own like. She's doing her thing down there. Because of a romance. And so that's kind of like messy. Anastasia is out here living in these streets she's gotta work hard it's like a whole struggle for her and then it kind of plays into this like as a kid i really wanted someone to come along and be like yo secret princess who knew oh yeah like the secret room or like i wanted a weird like giant reveal for my life as a child and so anytime it
Starting point is 00:10:45 happened in a movie i was like this is the greatest thing to ever happen the soundtrack bonkers good it's a great movie also dresses a plus a plus yes like yeah every song is a banger you know she has like cute little puppy puka i think that like follows her around also it's rated g which which is crazy. Yeah. Yes. I don't know if the MPAA or I guess MPAA now was thinking, because I'm like, I'm looking at this stuff at like 32 and I'm like, this is fucking scary.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And that little bat are still. Yes. And I'm like, you see like bones and like body parts. And I'm like, how is this rated G? Like, it's historical.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's probably. Yeah. No, it's G rated for gangsters. That's what they were thinking back then. Probably's probably fine no it's g-rated for gangsters that's what they were thinking back then probably but yeah it was um great great fucking time saturday night here at my house right and you also evoked alia's name you know i gotta also every time i hear it i'm gonna go alia gone too soon i want more give me some more damn cook up some damn ai alia tracks please i we were talking about this on the show yesterday but like i want to hear marvin gay
Starting point is 00:11:53 uh just just body the weekend's catalog i want to hear something like that yes yes yes those are the kinds of things that i'm always like when an artist passes away you're like damn i wonder what they would be doing right now with it. Yeah. Because I don't, man, I know she'd be killing it. Anyway, enough about that. Neha, what is something you think is overrated? The trailer for The Idol came out yesterday.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And I'm just like, I don't know. It's just like, let me have Pam Lennon in, man. Like, okay, I love Euphoria. I think there's obviously some issues with Euphoria, especially Barbie Ferrer's character. I love Kat. And so it breaks my heart that she's not going to be in the new season, but I totally get why, because she wasn't getting good stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And just hearing all the horror stories from like their set and just like how, like what was supposed to be like this really kind of feminist story kind of turned into like torture porn and like anti feminist stuff so you know like i'm gonna i'm gonna say like a light overrated is sam levinson so yeah i'm like i'm the creator of that show um along with others he took over as the director but i did yeah i was just like all of these shows on on HBO are getting canceled. So many POC stories, so many things taken off streaming. And then I think this was reshot for millions and millions of dollars. And I'm just like, oh, so he just gets a free pass to do whatever. But then let's cancel this.
Starting point is 00:13:18 But we lose Gordita Chronicles? Yeah. That was crazy. I was fucking with that show, too. It's really good. They didn't give it any kind of chance. And it's the show that before the Discovery merger happened with Warner Brothers, they almost certainly would have been like, let's give it another season and see if it can find its audience. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Like Lissa Spooky's doesn't have a huge audience, but it's very impactful to its audience, to the people who do show up and it's yeah to your point like you know we've heard a lot of former uh black and brown executives who were let go at warner brothers you know have let us know like there's an agenda out here to get rid of us at this company which is not surprising because they're doing a ton of downsizing and then you see where they're spending their millions it's confusing because after they dropped that little scene with the weekend and johnny depp's daughter i was like is this is this this is what we're doing this is it this right here wasn't it like so filled with like really graphic depictions of like sexual assault violence that they had to cut shit out to be like okay maybe went too far a lot of like people on the crew were like this set is like a horror to be on. And it's just like,
Starting point is 00:14:26 you know, like what this story once was has now disintegrated into like, you know, someone. Okay. With being like abused and assaulted for like the music is the understanding that I have. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:40 I was watching, I saw that trailer and I was just like, yeah, I don't know. Like, I don't know if I'll watch it. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I was just like, dude, like that girl is being exposed left, right, center. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. Heard that. All right. Well, now let's move on to maybe greener pastures. What is something you think is underrated? I was at a party for my friend's birthday on Sunday, and I don't remember the context in which this conversation started, but we're talking about like Jurassic Park and Jurassic World. And, you know, I was saying that Jurassic Park three, I think is a little underrated. Is it great? No, it's not a great film.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Better than the second one. film no better than the second one yes and like the second one breaks my heart because I'm like it is directed by Steven Spielberg
Starting point is 00:15:29 hey and also got the homegirl Vanessa Lee Chester in there my A1 since day one she's in that too playing Jeff Goldblum's
Starting point is 00:15:35 daughter so I won't play her in the second one talented love that baby she's obviously a full woman now but back then
Starting point is 00:15:42 I was like Black Girl from Jurassic Park yes so talented and it was a little princess too she was also a little princess wait she broke my heart oh my god oh yeah such a talent she wasn't a little princess another another fave that in the secret garden i do love maybe maybe next saturday night secret yeah wait so uh jurassic park three is the one where like the dad they were like doing like a paragliding trip and then the pterodactyls like shredded them up. And then like, then she's like, I got to go find my baby on the island. Right. Yeah. So again, not great, but like, I'm thinking back to like, like the lost world, which is the second one.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And I'm like, Steven Spielberg convinced Michael Crichton to make a sequel, which he doesn't do. And then he didn't follow the book. And then this dinosaur ends up in San Diego and whatever. And I was just like, yeah, I'm not even going to talk about Jurassic World, but I was just like, you know what? Jurassic 3 gets a lot of hate, Jurassic Park 3, but I'm like, it's really, I was like, you know, the raptors take the front and center.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I was like, yeah. And Sam Neill's in this one. He wasn't in the second one. Oh yeah, he's the dad, right? Is he the dad? Yeah. Yeah, he Sam Neill's in this one. He wasn't in the second one. Yeah, William H.B. Oh, yeah, he's the dad, right? Is he the dad? Yeah. Yeah, he plays the dad. And I really like the relationship between, like, this mom and dad who are just so distraught
Starting point is 00:16:53 and trying to find their kid. And the kid's even great, too. Like, his whole storyline, like, no, I'm an adventurer. I can, like, get out here and, like, explore and get all this information. No, Jurassic Park 3 holds up much better than we remember. It's just, it was hard at the time because the first one is such a master class. Yes. And then for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:17:10 probably budget, they were like, do the dinosaurs have to look as good as the first time? We can cut some corners. You're like, but what? Remember the giant breathing triceratops? You guys feel like we're not doing that again. No, no. That should cost 80k. We can't do that. do that just for one breathing static
Starting point is 00:17:26 thing to make the stomach go up and down we need seven puppet masters to pull that off we spent 300 000 on fake dinosaur shit okay we can't do this against even that's probably what they were saying uh that was one of my favorite parts in jurassic park when when ellie just gets in that pile of shit with those like elbow high yeah and she's like oh yeah and i was like yo as a kid i was like where'd they get all that shit without being like it could have been mud or like any manure industrial industrially bought anyway that's where my mind was in 93 but also like they're really yeah like molding that mud.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I'm like, that was probably. Yeah. That has to be real shit. Yeah. They probably just went to like a, a zoo and they're like, Hey man,
Starting point is 00:18:11 can we get some of your shit for this movie? Absolutely not. They did not have a board during digging around a real shit. Hey, if she's about that life. Yeah. What if she, what if she was like,
Starting point is 00:18:21 this needs to be real shit and wants to be like full on, like maybe she was method on that, that we don't know. She was like, this needs to be real shit and wants to be like full on like maybe she was method on that that we don't know. She was like, you built this amazing world, Stephen, this whole this whole park, this world in which dinosaurs are alive and we're interacting with them. And I just I feel like you're really cutting corners with fake shit here. I really feel like we just need to do that. OK, well, enough about fake shit. We'll talk about real shit. The news right after this.
Starting point is 00:18:46 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former
Starting point is 00:19:28 members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like,
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Starting point is 00:20:48 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:21:26 She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, The talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And the Geist Child stays asleep. And we're very blessed for that, even though I'm screaming in his ear about fake shit. Let's move on to talk about the NRA really quick. The convention happened over the weekend. Already over the weekend, there were two mass shootings. And it would have looked really bad for the NRA, who just hosted their annual convention full of presidential hopefuls. I guess maybe if there were more shootings, but again, of course, they were not going to delay it when there was a mass shooting in America. It seems like it happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I feel like they had one right after Parkland also, and it was just like, yo, the timing. Anyway, so this year's convention was full of just next level evil, diabolical horseshit. of just next level evil diabolical horseshit um christy gnome the governor of north dakota signed a gun friendly executive order during her speech because she is a stunt queen and then bragged i'm just gonna let i'm just gonna let you hear her talk about like her nra cred right after she signed a terrible like gun bill. Just so, just so the people in the back in here, you know, this is,
Starting point is 00:23:09 this is how she gets down. Little miss Addie, who is almost two and branch. Who's just a few months old. Her grandkids. They have brought us so much joy. They brought us purpose. I love that. She's already bringing up grandchildren.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I'm a parent. So I think of how much joy that is brought from my kids. Okay. Hopefully she's going about it. That's why we need to protect them and get guns away from these little kids. Now, Addie, who, you know, soon will need them, I want to reach out to her.
Starting point is 00:23:34 She already has a shotgun and she already has a rifle. Pause. How in the hell is a two-year-old holding a shotgun? In what world? She's not. She's not. The recoil would break her face open what yeah it would i mean again this is this is the kind of non then she go hold on but she softens that with this little tidbit too she's got a little pony named sparkles too so the girl oh good so she's
Starting point is 00:23:58 so y'all got horse money and you put guns around your two-year-old baby okay okay okay great okay super good yeah just a very interesting i just it's so funny when these people go and like have to underline their cred with the nra to be like and i leave my granddaughter around loose bullets and guns because that's her right you know what i mean and people like yeah that's that's down completely ignore all the statistics about how having guns in your house makes your child is much, much, much more likely to just die by gun violence. Ridiculous. Yeah. I have a niece who's two and I'm just like imagining her very cute, but truly a terror.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Like imagining her with a gun. And I'm just like with a gun. I was like, she can't avoid sharp edges. Right. How is she going to like or, use a marker properly right now? Like, how is she going to be like, oh, yeah, let me fucking load this, like. And the gun humpers will tell you it's not for the baby to use now. It's like a family thing that you just get for them.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's like a college trust fund. It's like, yeah, I got this for you when you were two. So you can use it when you're four. Also, you're a six-year-old who just used a gun, so I'm like... Yeah, at a school. Yeah, so I'm just like... Well, and beyond that, we've seen so many kids accidentally shoot and kill their siblings because they had access to a gun that was loaded.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Because loading a gun is a challenge. It's not easy to do. Most children don't have the dexterity to do it, but if that safety is off, it takes nothing to just shoot a gun is a challenge. It's not easy to do. Most children don't have the dexterity to do it. But if that safety is off, it takes nothing to just shoot a gun. And every kid, I mean, playing cops and robbers, since you have enough imagination to play a game, you know what I mean? Because you could do this with your hand, since you could make your fingers a gun. So they have no idea. And, you know, they have no idea what their life is worth or what it means to die like it's just it's horrible to allow them access to something that could fundamentally change their
Starting point is 00:25:49 lives in a horrific way well you know luckily uh once we had that wonderful bit of uh information from christy noem we had mike pence show up the second he hit the stage they just started booing because again they all see him as a traitor to donald trump or at least the people that were going but you know what's wild during his speech and we didn't cover this on trends he did address the problem of mass shooting mass shootings and he actually has a solution let me just read this um quote from him quote i believe the time has come to institute a federal death penalty statute with an accelerated appeal to ensure those who engage in mass shootings face execution in months not years case closed okay that's his idea more death prevent death with more death yeah i love the idea of being like so don't steal my
Starting point is 00:26:36 rights to have this gun but your right to a speedy and safe trial screw it who needs it and on top of it also like just for the morbid fact that many of like more than a half of mass shooters quote end up dead at the scene of their crime you know and a lot of experts say when you deal with people that are motivated by ideology punishment is not an effective deterrent no because they're not that's not what they're motivated by but okay go off mike pence i'm glad you and karen your literal wife karen uh maybe came up with that over big max or something you know then donald trump took the stage and he absolutely fucking melted my brain with how ignorant everything was first of all he called himself the most pro-gun president in history and he claimed that he would create a fucking if he was elected he would create a tax credit to reimburse teachers who want to bring
Starting point is 00:27:30 blammers into the classroom blammers yeah i i added that colloquial phrase for guns for a handgun yeah yeah yeah but if hey if you want to bring it we can give you a tax deduction because you should have a concealed firearm in the classroom. And again, every teacher with a brain has been saying, we already wear 9 million hats as teachers. Do not add law enforcement or armed security to our list of tasks we already do. Like we're already, we're raising these kids, not to say that like for you but that's what is happening when you go to school your teachers are so pivotal in your upbringing and your education that like to add on top of that and also i hope you're good with the steel too is just absolute
Starting point is 00:28:16 nonsense and it's not multiple things multiple things so the very last school shooting had armed guards didn't do shit um did not help because these are some almost always semi-automatic weapons so you know if it's surprise i have a gun it's a semi-automatic and i can kill you in 2.5 because those bullets do a shit ton of damage what it's not helpful it's like it's there's no cognitive process that says this is helpful i spoke to a teacher the other day who was going through active shooter drills with their class and they were saying that like all of the advice they're given at the end there's always a caveat which is it's an active shooting situation you have no idea how you'll react so if you run fine if you want to find a place to hide okay there's literally no like solid advice other than try to hide or get away as fast as possible
Starting point is 00:28:58 right it's a lone shooter like you don't know where they're going to be there's not that kind of communication and beyond all of that as all of us in here are black and brown people, have probably had experience with a racist-ass teacher. I don't want a teacher to suddenly pop off and think, like, Lil Jamal is acting up and needs to be taught a lesson in this moment because they're heated and frustrated because they don't have enough funding to support their class. It's just crazy. How many cops in schools have we seen, body slam children over literally nothing like this is a huge death sentence for many more children like so dumb yeah it's so dumb what if a kid gets a hold of that gun like there's it's like there's no cognitive thought around like what possibly happened in real fucking talk first off like i had a teacher who i remember she fucking yelled at me because i threw a west side in a photo and was like how did you try to treat
Starting point is 00:29:50 me like i was a gang member in front of all my classmates afraid that your clothes were representing some kind of gay no i went like this i just threw a well you know we out here and it was like she fucking humiliated me in front of the entire class if she had a gun i don't know she would have been like oh my god he's a gang member i'm like i'm fucking humiliated me in front of the entire class. If she had a gun, I don't know. She would have been like, oh my God, he's a gang member. I'm like, I'm fucking 12. And the West Side Connection album just came out. What the fuck do you want me to do? And then also, that was me.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Like, I remember I had a teacher busted her ankle when she wasn't looking. I grabbed her crutches and I was like fucking dancing and shit. I had another teacher who was like, also had a leg surgery and had like a like a personal like mobility device, like a scooter. You better believe I fucking hijacked that motherfucker and was bending corners in the classroom. And I got in trouble. But all that to say is absolutely. There are definitely, you know, kids are fucking curious and they they don't they don't know better anyway. But back to Trump's speech, he goes on to say that, again, this very familiar refrain that mass shootings are, quote, not a gun problem, but, quote, this is a mental health problem. This is a social problem.
Starting point is 00:30:50 This is a cultural problem. It's a spiritual problem. OK, asshole, then what are your mental health, social, cultural and spiritual solutions to this issue? Otherwise, shut your fucking mouth. It's nonsense and it's just you're just hitting people with like a very thought killing tidy answer to avoid reckoning with art the gun proliferation in this country and then he goes on to suggest again he somehow ties it all together with some transphobia because he said he would order the fda to investigate quote whether transgender hormone treatments and ideology
Starting point is 00:31:23 increase the risk of extreme depression aggression and even violence again the depression and things like that come from being in a society that is so transphobic not because of the i you're not you're trying to treat this shit like it's fucking like religious extremism or some shit um and then he said i think already most of us know the answer don't we uh okay again the vast majority of mass shooters are white cis men the vast majority well what and like if you're even looking at a population share of like what like what percentage transgender people make up it's not enough to be able to say that this is even close so shut it's just like so infuriating that again
Starting point is 00:32:03 they're pivoting to this to try and motivate more transphobes to have like a take that they can you know go into next thanksgiving with well they have to rile up their base because we're seeing like a lot of sane people starting to be like what we're working for the racism and stuff and you know maybe we don't want our children to be trans but this level of attention attention and dedication specifically to trans people is exhausting and weird and not at all addressing any of the actual issues I live with daily. You know, no. Well, hopefully this I can just point to these things of like societal progress as a smokescreen to avoid like real substantive policy changes. But that's part of, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:45 maintaining the status quo in this country, unfortunately. And then the other thing that Donald Trump came for on the eve of 420, he said, he said, the other thing that's leading to mass shootings, it ain't guns. It's weed.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Stop it. Genetically. He said it's genetically engineered marijuana. Okay. GMO marijuana is amazing. How dare he get out of here? i love my leafier dark purple weed that was hydroponically with gmos nothing wrong with it donald have you seen the fucking trichomes have you seen the trichomes on these buds motherfucker you idiot this shit is straight fire bro i'm not i'm this gas now, who's getting high to start shooting? It's going to be so much
Starting point is 00:33:26 confusion and chaos. That's not going to help you on your mission. No one's going to smoke a bowl and be like, oh yeah, let me get a gun. They're like, no, let me get some Taco Bell. That's what they're going to do. Let me lay down. Let me play Ghost of Tsushima on PlayStation. Let me do that shit. But he said he will vow to, quote, get to the sickness
Starting point is 00:33:41 that we're seeing in our country. I think Barron started smoking weed. I think that's where that came from he's like what's what's wrong with him he calls me a dick he called me head ass dad or something i don't know what that means he must be smoking weed or something that feels like where that that came from and then also just like the images from the entire event would also make your heart stop because the amount of photos you see of like little kids out here just playing with handguns playing with assault rifles that are like again too big for their bodies uh it's just it's just like so fucking just heart it's just disheartening and heartbreaking because again like to your point being in a house with guns can exponentially raises your chances of dying by a gun.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Anyway, let's move on to another presidential hopeful, Ron DeSantis, who is continuing his streak of the worst fucking policy ideas ever. their limits because even they can see that running on a no rights for anyone is not an attractive platform um especially for like the very regular everyday american and some might say even most people in florida despite his popularity there um and well now ron is living or now ron is you know really laying his claim to the title of dumbest fuck of them all with his newly energized attacks on disney um and we knew okay it all started when disney was vocally opposed albeit a little late i will say uh to desantis's you know anti-lgbtq legislation he said he might in response to them being like oh this is fucking trash man you should change that he said oh we might have to take a look at your very favorable favorable tax situation that the state of florida has given you for decades now um and
Starting point is 00:35:31 then well disney because they're a massive corporation and they're the master of the dark arts of capitalism they got their army of lawyers to skull fuck desantis and the state by making their like lordship over their special tax district basically permanent or at the very least until kate and williams last child dies and then 21 years after that they put a royalty clause uh into the fucking into the bill to be like this is how long we'll be running this shit without your interference so now desantis is big mad and he's talking a big game. And even his flunkies in the state legislature are, they're now being like,
Starting point is 00:36:12 all right, that's it. We're going to fucking destroy Disneyland. And this is state rep Carolina. And he said, it's time for Disney executives to have a sober conversation and retake the company from the radical ideologies that have hijacked it. Amesti said, it's time for Disney executives to have a sober conversation and retake the company from the radical ideologies that have hijacked it. You are in the business of entertaining children
Starting point is 00:36:30 and families. You are not in the business of social re-engineering or promoting radical political ideologies. And if you think you are, we have good news for you. As our great governor has said, Florida is a place where woke goes to die. Good luck. Wow. Imagine attacking one of two things your state is known for and being like, we got to get rid of that. Old people move there to die. When I think of Florida, I'm like, it's Disney World and that's where old people go to die.
Starting point is 00:37:00 That's it. That's all I ever think about. Maybe Miami will cross my mind, but I'm not a Miami girl. You know, it's not the city where I go to party. Wait, where do you go to party? New Orleans? Where would I go to party? Chicago, New York, where people enjoy dancing to music. I love a club. You don't want to wear all
Starting point is 00:37:17 white? You don't wear all white in a Miami party? I don't like going to any place where the idea is to be seen. When I went to clubs, everybody is standing around and the DJ seems half interested in his job. That's not fun for me. The DJ is playing a prerecorded set list. Let's be real.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You acting like that's all cap up there. It's a prerecorded mix. Anyway, let me, so to your point, right? Why the fuck would you go after Disney World? But here again, here's Ron DeSantis, who you can tell he's like at that point where this is really interesting, too, because for all the things that he's been able to navigate as governor or controversies, he's been able to, like, you know, get what he wants because he's in a state that is the Republican has just control over every single chamber of consequence. And like right now, he's clearly he seems frazzled because he doesn't really have a good way to like counter. He's just
Starting point is 00:38:10 like, well, I guess we're going to have to take away your tax exemption. And I was like, what? And he seems a little frazzled. So listen to him now really talk about he's like, oh, well, I guess I got some ideas. So if you look at this whole special district, Walt Disney Corporation obviously owns a lot of it, but the district owns other land. You know, quite frankly, I wasn't even thinking about that land. This was not something that was really important one way or another. We just wanted them to live under the same rules, pay the debt, pay the taxes, all that stuff. Oh, but come to think of it, now people are like, well, what should we do with this land? And so, you know, it's like, OK, kids, I mean, people have
Starting point is 00:38:48 said, you know, maybe maybe have another maybe create a state park, maybe try to do more amusement parks. Well, I'm sorry. Your first idea is to build a competing theme park next to fucking Disney World. Okay. You have got the imagination on your side, buddy. But that wasn't even the bad idea. I just had to stop there. I'm like, yeah, yeah, for sure. Build a competing fucking theme park. Ask Universal Studios how that's going.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Someone even said, like, maybe you need another state prison. Who knows? I mean, I just think that the possibilities are. What the fuck? So his thing is, oh, yeah. OK, so y'all don't fight fair. I'll build a fucking penitentiary next to the place where people bring their kids from all over the fucking world and country. It's just like a very like what? What does he think? Already he has donors fleeing because they're like, like man your position on abortion is so fucked up like there's no way even me as a goonie gop mega donor is like i can even tell that is not the fucking way to get into office like you got to know where actual people are and to be like the place where people aspire
Starting point is 00:40:04 to go on vacations to, you want to completely fuck. And I'm not trying to hear, I'm not caping for the sanctity of Disney world. I'm just saying like, does he even have any idea of like the financial impact on his own fucking state? If he was trying to tear that shit down.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Probably not. Yeah. There are 128 state prisons in Florida, 50 major institutions, 15 annexes, 7 private facilities, which are contracts for private facilities overseen by the Florida Department of Management and Services, 20 work camps. We have to go back and analyze more of what that means later. Three reentry centers, two road prisons, forestry camps, and one basic training camp. There are 21 million people that live in Florida.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So per million people, they have a prison. That's. Yeah. I mean, Hey, maybe they need another one. And that'll teach Disney to side with the rest of society to be like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:59 like eight is not like a, not even a good business model. And we're fucking Disney. We're cheap as shit. We're not trying to fucking do that. We're literally next to a place called the happiest place on earth that provides so many tourism dollars for the state of Florida. Again, Republicans for a very long time have built their foundation off of hate. It's a really easy way to say, hey, hey you know we'll gather our white supremacist base
Starting point is 00:41:25 that'll be good we'll trick some other people into joining us and you know uh appropriate the model minority myth and it'll be great but they always do this there's like no cognitive through line of like how does this long term help us it's just constant like small bursts of rage and you're like you do you want to do this because you're you can't just recreate another disney experience like that is so many years in family history and like you can't buy that kind of promotion you can't replace it yeah well he's trying he's trying but you know what not possible so okay i'm just want to make sure so joel you say not a good plan to try and be the face of being the destroyer of disney world it's not a good plan just want to check in not a good
Starting point is 00:42:09 plan right i feel like floridians you know if they're anything like californians who are you know some people are like i got a friend who's like that's my home like they moved around so much as a kid they were really poor but every year their parents got enough money to go to Disneyland. And that is their space, you know? Yeah. I just, I can't imagine being like, this is really going to help my campaign. Like, it's going to be so good if I go after the people
Starting point is 00:42:34 who made childhood classics for literally everyone alive. There's not a person alive who didn't grow up with some sort of Disney movie. Right. Neha, what about you? Where are you at?
Starting point is 00:42:44 If you're a consultant, are you telling Ron DeS're a consultant, do you, what are you telling Ron DeSantis? Great idea, Ron, or no, uh, I would say great idea.
Starting point is 00:42:50 If like, I would say great idea. If I think like, yeah, this is fucking stupid. And I want to see what it's like for you to pitch this idea. But, uh,
Starting point is 00:43:00 but yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. I concur with Joe. Yeah. Well, this is wild too, because because anyway right after that press conference we said maybe we'll bring up we'll build a fucking prison disney clapped back
Starting point is 00:43:11 immediately like immediate like milliseconds within that press conference ending and they just said hey we're announcing our first pride night ever y'all ready for that hold that ron now we're turning it up okay you know what's crazy as a queer person this is very irritating it took so long for them just to get like gay pride like pins right in the park and then they had like pride nights so they were like listen adults if you want to come out at night and be like with your lovers okay it's fine but let's really keep the children out well we're only going to do it in california because y'all are real like pro the queers out here we feel pretty safe. We're not going to do it in Florida. And just the other day, my friends were like, oh, so they're not going to do Pride in Florida. I don't think so. I think
Starting point is 00:43:52 it's just going to be a California thing. I'm excited for every queer person in Florida because it's nice to have spaces and support. If you're a person who visits Disney frequently, you know, you're probably aware of the company and their track records and things. But man, it really can be the happiest place on Earth. They're got really good at what they're supposed to do it's so fun it just has an immense amount of fun at disney they got the dope rides they got the good parks uh like our performance spaces if you go to the right restaurants you can get good food research before you go they're not all the same so i'm glad that they can go and just cut loose this whole thing though has put us in a thing where we're like who do we pick in this fight fascist
Starting point is 00:44:28 or behemoth media corporation you know what i mean and then and at the same time we're like we we hear about the struggles of working at the fucking park and how difficult that is and how little they want to pay people they're only now like starting to like up the pay and we're still like oh like way to go with that clap back but you only you're only doing pride night as a way to like antagonize this governor not because it came out of the goodness of your heart but that's what capitalism do to you you know we got the lesser of two evils it's like yeah for the disney corporation oh man which by the way i i was gonna say like you know disney doesn't have they're not innocent at all because off mic i know last week we were talking about just the
Starting point is 00:45:11 the casting of like the lilo and stitch live action movie and how we're suddenly seeing like the people look a little bit different than i'm seeing than the depictions in the cartoon now again i like i said anything after 94 good chance i have not seen it if it is a like a disney product uh but i know i joelle i know you definitely have feelings about it you know i do how far off are they right now they're really far off and i mean in every conceivable way so when lilo and stitch comes out it's a revelation not just because it's a modern hawaiian family all dark skin all with indigenous features but it's a modern Hawaiian family, all dark skin, all with indigenous features. But it's also taking to task the separation of indigenous children from their families
Starting point is 00:45:50 and the ways in which the government does not support at all. Like, you know, these families, if they're, you know, if they're poor, if, you know, Lilo is being raised by her older sister after their parents passed, it's really hard for her. Nani works really hard to try and keep a great place and they're like oh you don't have enough money oh lilo's acting up in school the best thing to do would be for us to take her from the only family
Starting point is 00:46:12 she knows which is bananas and so the film in a very child-friendly way explores you know what that fear is and it is a fear that we are seeing a huge resurgence in across indigenous communities across the united states especially right now as they're trying to pass laws that allow people basically to just steal their children and i think colorism is a huge problem in the casting we're seeing a lot of people and i want to just really quickly highlight we're not questioning anyone's indigenous status that's not at all what this is about sure this is about colorism which the these are folks who could either pass for right or are much lighter skin or have eurocentric features they can be indigenous they love their communities they can be active members of their communities but there are not dark-skinned
Starting point is 00:46:55 indigenous people on tv that often and when you have a set film that is a classic that means a lot to a lot of people it is so disheartening to then be like we're doing a live action and we're not going to give any of the performers who look like this in real life an opportunity to bring these characters to life that's frustrating on top of that they're removing that core element of government coming in and trying to take children unjustly by making the woman who it used to be a black guy who was like part of CIA and very like buttoned up. Now it's a woman who is indigenous. And you're like, but that not stealing their children from themselves like this is not right.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Right. Right. The calculations are not working here. Like the storyline falls apart. Yeah. Yeah. And so the important like all the important things that resonate for folks who have now passed, like a lot of my generation who have children have passed this movie down to their kids. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:47:48 I don't want to take you to see this movie because it doesn't represent all of the things that it was revolutionary for crafting, you know? Yeah. It's frustrating, man. Now what's your relationship to it? I mean,
Starting point is 00:48:02 I love Lilo and Stitch. I have a stuffed animal stitch and lilo not with me but i did have one i had an uncle who worked for disney and so i would get like a great disney store discount um okay and just like when like joel was saying about like that family who would like always travel to disney like um like we would always go to disney because it was like more accessible to us because we could go for free because my uncle. But yeah, like I love this film. That's I think that's actually where I first found out who Elvis was because I think I was like 10 or 11.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah. When the movie came out. So I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm an immigrant. My parents are immigrants. They're not like passing down like Beatles records and shit to me, you know, like whatever. You know, they came to the US with like two kids and eight suitcases and like they're not gonna pack like records and stuff like that right right um yeah so I think that's where because I had the soundtrack and I remember like listening to the soundtrack but yeah like I just hate that it's like we should just be satisfied with representation but I'm just like it needs to
Starting point is 00:49:03 be representation within the correct like context right so it's just like it's just like yeah again no one is questioning these people's talent or anything like that but it's just like but and it's not on them you know either yeah i hope that they don't have to like answer for that if you were the actor that you would say here's the thing like it's also look it's also hard as like a poc actor or something to get on so i get that there is a conundrum for that person who's cast it's like yo yeah i this shit could set me up but also on the other side it does feel like man you may you man i don't know if this i don't know if i'm really the one for this fucking role playing nina simone it's just girl, this is not your lane.
Starting point is 00:49:46 You must exit stage left. I'm so sorry. Or Scarlett Johansson, who can play whoever she wants. She's an Asian icon. And Emma Stone, too. You know, obviously, you know, we got to shout out to all of our Asian icons out there. Yeah, but I think it's just like, you know, to me,
Starting point is 00:50:03 like, it is just like bite-washing, you know to me like it is just like bite washing you know so it's just kind of like you know i never watched the elad in my fashion but you know i did notice that like there's not that many people of like darker skin that were cast you know and weren't they saying they were blacking people up too i mean i wouldn't be surprised or something i heard i heard there's some makeup i don't know. That may have been questionable at times. I don't know about that. But it definitely was, again, just a color is an issue. It's just like, it's not hard to cast dark-skinned people.
Starting point is 00:50:32 You can do it. I believe in you. You have all of the power of Disney behind you. You can have access to literally any performer. It makes me nervous because I don't even think they're going to have Lilo beat that white girl's ass. And that's my favorite part of the movie. They're going to remove it. she takes that little girl to task oh yeah like hula lessons and stuff yes oh yes yes she's called she's saying a bunch of racist shit as she gets told off as she gets
Starting point is 00:50:56 beat and then Lilo gets in trouble which again is a banana thing to happen Lilo is standing up for herself on her native land let her beat that girl's ass she needs to learn yeah right fuck around find out that's one of the first lessons we need to teach kids yeah yeah i mean yeah it's truly something else and yeah i think we're we'll always be up against trying to figure out like when people who are in like making the decisions are like yeah yeah yeah do do the thing that is the most accurate rather than the habits of being like it's the the whiter things do better even though that is yeah even mckinsey's out here telling you that's wrong like here's like a non-white story but like we're gonna but it's
Starting point is 00:51:36 still gonna be like oh people who like your skin isn't dark but it's like but it's hawaiian so it's fine whatever and i'm like no and like for directors who are like you know just darker skin is just difficult to shoot uh look the people who made insecure uh handled all that for you they revolutionized like how to properly light and shoot uh darker skin so yeah or hire people who know yeah hire people who know how to do that like yeah like just like makeup artists and like hairstylists who are just like i've read so many interviews with black actresses where they're just like they don't know how to do my hair. And then they end up doing it themselves. And I'm like, that's not how that's supposed to go.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Right. No. And at the very least, be like, OK, here's your day rate for as a hairstylist that we're adding to your performer rate at the very least. Because, yeah, we fucked that up. Sorry. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back to talk old Joe Biden neck skin right after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:56:02 dead and it is actually an actor portraying him wearing a hyper realistic Joe Biden mask. OK, sorry. Case closed. The video, the whole thing, this whole gotcha moment is based off this clip where Joe Biden is scratching the back of his neck. And they're like, oh, man, in this video, they're like, look at it. they're like look at it this guy the tweet says the actor playing joe biden reveals his mask you're watching the most complex military campaign that has ever been waged in world history be proud stand tall anyway it's like a whole q anon thing so what they're saying is that the skin wrinkle behind his neck was like moving around too much. And they're like, oh, that's too loose.
Starting point is 00:56:49 So it's clearly a silicone mask. Again, this is not a new theory. There are people who claim that Jim Carrey might be one of the actors who plays Joe Biden because, I don't know, because he wore like, because he was in the mask. I'm like losing my shit over here because I've actually never heard this theory. Oh, it's wild. And dude, Jim Carrey, even he came out and he was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm one of the, like he was even fucking like, yeah, yeah. That's one of them.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah. I'll be playing him. Oh, he played him in SNL, right? I, yeah, I think once. But he was also in the mask. Yeah, he was in the mask but also if you remember in in living color his character fire marshall bill that shit actually looks like now to me so i don't know that's for the best of my old head a little bit i get it
Starting point is 00:57:37 i would start putting that together i think that was before yeah that definitely was yeah that definitely was a bit maybe a bit ahead of your time uh but yeah just search fire marshall bill jim carrey and you will see joe biden i just want us to leave octogenarians alone did y'all see the recent jack nicholson article uh no what happened with jack nicholson they're just making fun of like not making fun but just commenting about how he looks like. He's just like living his life. He was out in a balcony and people were like,
Starting point is 00:58:08 Oh, what the fuck? Like he looks crazy. Recognizable and disheveled. I dropped a link in the chat so you can see, but he literally just looks like an 86 year old man who went outside to stretch for a second. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And they made a hub, like just leave them alone. He's 80 to 86. Just let this man live. They want to talk all this shit, but like, where's that smoke for the fucking politicians that are making decisions about legislation that are this damn old you know what i mean you got diane fine you're like uh yo what hello and i thought we were trying
Starting point is 00:58:36 to let these people go off into the sunset and go to florida and shit but yeah how old is he 80 though he looks good yeah i'm just like i'd probably look like that when I'm 60. Like, I always forget to wash my face with makeup. I'm going to look like that. Like, this is how, like, most, like, conservative Gen X men look in their middle age. Like, so why come for for Jack Nicholson like this? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Anyway, so the whole body double thing, it's not just on the right, because remember when people were like, well, I got a body double too. And that was like a whole thing. Like a lot of people like Democrats or, you know, Occupy Democrat type people on Twitter were like, I got you. It's like, shut up, man. She wears a wig like all the celebrities. Okay. That's what you saw. Right. The other thing is, what's really interesting is like J.M., our writers pointing out, it's like it kind of might have something to do. Oh, what's wrong? What's wrong, guys? Child, you don't like this story about Fire Marshal Bill being our president.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Well, too late. That's what it is. That there's a lot of stories about how like the masks from Mission Impossible. OK, you know what I'm talking about? like the masks from mission impossible okay you know what i'm talking about the fucking ethan hans yes tom crew shit like those masks that there are like an increasing number of stories that are talking about how these masks are like real or like being close to like available in our real life here's one from cnet hyper realistic masks can fool us just like in mission impossible uh-huh uh here's another one from like another website the conversation hyper-realistic masks are extremely hard to spot as our new research shows
Starting point is 01:00:10 here's another one and from the uk university of york study finds mission impossible masks can fool police and airport security so there's this kind of information out there but meanwhile the cia and i'm willing to believe the cia when they say this they say these masks aren't fucking fooling nobody they don't move the same way i don't know what the fuck y'all are talking about it won't even animate in the same way as human skin works but go off and yeah so it's just really interesting that there are people are like i don't know man those mission Impossible masks could really be it. Plus his loose old neck skin.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Then like, what about Mitch McConnell? You know what I mean? He got to talk about his loose neck skin. You know, he got he might have he might have three masks. Oh, my God. Ridiculous. Anyway, so, you know, to bring up a film that we brought up before, it could just be that the movie Dave, uh, with Kevin Klein may have just primed like an entire generation of people to accept that a president could just casually be replaced by a lookalike,
Starting point is 01:01:12 uh, and run the country. Um, but you know, that's that. Movies are not real life folks. No, no.
Starting point is 01:01:20 But look, as much as I, there is part of me though, if that technology came out, I would love to, I want to see those, Matt, I want to try it on. Cause it's always funny, like in the movie, how, when they will put it on, like it takes a second for it to adjust and then it turns into their skin, but then they can take it off in like one second.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I'm always, I don't know. I was always fascinated by the technology. If those come around, I would like to stay away from those as much as possible. Oh, I would not. Are you kidding me? I would be like a white guy and go do some weird shit oh yeah you probably get treated a lot better that's true actually we should all do that we should all do that wear our white masks and then and go protest and then go protest and then create there'll be like there's millions of white allies out there
Starting point is 01:01:59 we're outnumbered and they're like just poc wearing those mission impossible masks that's so funny i actually actually i think the nra to be kind of fun to try. And then the NRA is going to do the same. And the NRA is going to do the same thing. Oh my God. And they'll be like, we're going to have to verse that on. Oh God, yeah. Because you're going to see some dude out there with like,
Starting point is 01:02:14 with like Kyrie Irving's face on. And it's going to be like, yeah. And you know, to be honest, I think Rhonda Santos is a fantastic candidate for the Black community. Although, who knows, Kyrie might not be too far off from actually saying that himself. Anyway, that is going to do it for this edition of the Daily Zeitgeist. Neha, Aziz, thank you so much for joining us.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I really appreciate you coming on and joining us. Where can people find you and follow you and support you and all that? Yeah, so you can find me on Twitter at NehaAziz13 and on Instagram at NehaAziz. And you can find my podcast, Part Neha Aziz 13 and on Instagram at Neha Aziz. And you can find my podcast partition as partition podcast on Instagram and 1947 pod on Twitter. Right. And for people who don't know partition, just give them like the brief pitch for people who aren't up on your show, because it's a fantastic, fantastic show for a part of history. We don't really talk about. Yeah. I was like, yeah, let me actually talk about what this shows about. for a part of history we don't really talk about.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Yeah. I was like, yeah, let me actually talk about what this shows about. Yeah. So I created a show partition under the next step program. And it is about the partition of India and the formation of Pakistan. And it had its 75th anniversary last year. And,
Starting point is 01:03:17 you know, it's not a part of history that's really talked about too much. Usually it's just kind of like a one sentence thing about Gandhi. And like, that's kind of it. But, you know know millions of people died um it was one of the largest forced migrations and we're still facing a lot of the effects of what happened 75 years ago today like you know india and pakistan have such a tumultuous relationship to each other and you know they're still fighting quite a bit and a lot of that um you know most of
Starting point is 01:03:46 it is dated back to partition so i interview some family members i interview survivors i interview filmmakers and just like other people so trying to kind of make sense of of like this event and how it continuously shapes our lives all because their british lawyer was like i'm gonna draw a line right down the middle here how How's that work? Okay. And was like, let me do this in five weeks and then get the fuck out. Yeah. Yeah. I have no idea what that means for the people that live there.
Starting point is 01:04:12 But this looks good from my perspective. Yeah. It's a really fantastic show. I want to really encourage people to check it out. Now, what is a tweet or some other work of social media that you're liking? Okay. So I'm going to talk about dinosaurs again. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:26 So there is this Twitter account that I stumbled upon called But With Raptors. And it's fucking amazing. It's really like the best thing I've seen in I don't even know how long. So like they take like a movie or maybe some other form of media and they replace it with a velociraptor.
Starting point is 01:04:44 So they have one from like Citizen Kane when he's making this like speech and it's just like where like the poster is behind Citizen Kane and it's just like, but it's like a raptor and then like instead of Orson Welles, it's a raptor speaking. And then they have one from a marriage story where like they're Scarlett Johansson and what's his name? Adam Driver are fighting and he like punches the wall, but Adam Driver's a raptor.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And it's so fucking good. And I just like, I was just like on it for such a long time. And then they like, that was just a good one. Head singing in the rain. So instead of Gene Kelly, it was like a raptor,
Starting point is 01:05:19 like walking around with the umbrella. Three men and a baby raptor that would have been that maybe they've done that i don't know they've done like yo they did that they did oh you're looking at it i gotta yeah i'm when the second you said it i'm like i'm looking it up right now this is fantastic they had uh ryan gosling barbie but it was like with a raptor. And it was like, this pens out for hunting. Oh my God. I love this. And Joelle Monique,
Starting point is 01:05:52 thank you so much for joining us today. Where can people find you, follow you, and what's a tweet that you like? Yeah. Y'all can follow me all over the internet. At Joelle Monique, it's J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Twitter has been a hellscape of colorism and horrifying gun facts, so I switched it over to Instagram. A channel that gives me so much pleasure and just a delight and sucks up way too much of my time is Carpet Cleaning ASMRs. Oh my god! I saw that too and I spent like 20 minutes
Starting point is 01:06:19 watching those videos of just cleaning carpet. I can't stop! They're so amazing. So what happens is they bring in rugs that are beyond filthy. Like someone probably took them outside and soaked them in mud. They're horrifyingly caked with dirt. Yeah, literally like imagine like the Jurassic Park pile of shit. And then someone throwing a rug on that. And then trying to.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Whoa. Exactly. Exactly. And then they clean it like 37 times in a time-lapse video until it looks like you could buy it at a store. It's incredible. Mesmerizing, mesmerizing content. So wholesome. I worry about how much water they're using as a Californian.
Starting point is 01:06:56 But other than that, really enjoy watching. Hey, not as much as it takes to grow these damn almonds. I'll tell you that much. So that's what the attention really needs to be going. What the why are we still growing fucking almonds here and then we can go down the list but god golly as my grandfather would say golly what's going on the water use i know baby i know you hate water waste also you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray you can also find jack and I on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad boosties.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And Sophia, Alexandra and I are back with four 20 day fiance. But rather than talking 90 day, we're actually, we had to catch up with the discourse on love is blind. So you will hear our takes on love is blind. And I'm like, I saw that reunion yesterday,
Starting point is 01:07:42 but I miss I'm one episode in and I'm like, what the, I'm already seeing in and I'm like, what the... I'm already seeing a lot of interesting shit develop that I feel that is going to get interesting as the season progresses. So tune in for that. A tweet that I like is from Ellie Kremendahl. At Ellie Kremendahl. K-R-E-I-M-E-N-D-A-H-L tweeted. Can you explain the gaps in your resume?
Starting point is 01:08:02 Response. Yes. That was when I worked really weird jobs that i don't want you to know about yeah i would do the thing where i made up one company during that period where that my homie could just pretend was like the reference for and it was like yeah yeah he was a manager uh for those years all those jobs i worked for free i just put them down like they're paid gigs. I made up a salary.
Starting point is 01:08:26 You're not calling anyone from there. It's totally fine. No, it was like, yeah, I was a unit production manager on a free thing, but don't worry.
Starting point is 01:08:33 We're acting like that's paid. The experience counts, okay? I should have been getting paid. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:08:42 We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist., where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! Where you can check out all the articles we talk about, as well as the song we write out on. Today, we're going to go out on new music from Nabiha Iqbal. I played
Starting point is 01:08:56 one of her tracks a few months ago that was super dope, kind of electro wavy kind of thing. She's now doing a shoegaze kind of thing. She's a DJ, but has been making her own music, and I love when you see people cross over from DJing to making music. So this is her new track,
Starting point is 01:09:12 Zone 1 to 6,000 by Nabiha Iqbal, so check that out. That is going to do it for us today. We'll be back with more episodes of the Daily Zeitgeist. Again, it is a production of iHeartRadio, so check out Apple Podcasts or the iHeartRadio app or more to subscribe and do all that. Like I said, we'll be back with Translator. Again, it is a production of iHeartRadio, so check out Apple Podcasts or the iHeartRadio app or more to subscribe and do all that. Like I said,
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