The Daily Zeitgeist - I Put My Thumb Where The Trends At… 5/27: Emmanuel Macron, Trump, Box Office, Kermit The Frog, West Point Commencement Speech

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

In this edition of I Put My Thumb Where The Trends At, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Emmanuel Macron getting mushed by his wife, corruption in the Trump administration?!?!, a quick... check-in with the box office, Fox News declaring war on a muppet, Trump's so-called "commencement speech" at West Point and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Underrated the amount we be thumbing out here. Mm hmm. Hey, how many of them? And hey, we're my farmers. You know, I would have Tom Thumb thumbing around the West Coast, you know, up and down the West Coast. So don't be thumbing around. OK, I'm going around your sarlaq pit. I bet there's some freak out there that is he's like,
Starting point is 00:00:36 I want to get all up in that pit. You know, there's been that sarlaq pit. There's probably some butthole jewelry that'll put sarlaq around it. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm sorry. But whole jewelry. Yeah, like a thing like is this a common is this, you know, like the shifts, I get the dentist, like here out there like this. Mm hmm. Yes. And then it puts in a pretends it's like you're talking about the thing that they put on your mouth at the dentist.
Starting point is 00:01:02 That's like the thing they put on the person's eyes in orange. Yeah. Yes. The Ludovico treatment for your butthole. But you do that on the butthole and then it makes it look like a sarlacc. Yeah. I mean, I'm telling you, let's workshop this. But I think this is the show from now on. I bet I can find on Etsy Star Wars as jewelry. Yeah. But whole jewelry when I Google it, which I just did for the first time, I swear to
Starting point is 00:01:29 God, just brings up cat butthole stuff. Yeah. Damn, I just looked up Star Wars ass jewelry. Nothing. Huh. All right, Brian, you're going to have to pull this out of the cold open because we've got a money making scheme. Um. Um. Um. Um.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Um. Um. Um. Um. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day,
Starting point is 00:01:57 joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up?
Starting point is 00:02:16 First of all, are you here to testify in the Ditty Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge from her days on making the band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamour. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeart radio app, Apple
Starting point is 00:02:45 podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering
Starting point is 00:03:09 on everybody's business from Bloomberg Business Week. I'm Max Chafkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Business Week editor, Brad Stone, sports reporter, Rand it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer
Starting point is 00:03:28 spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. What happens when we come face to face with death? My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine.
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Starting point is 00:04:16 Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes. My name is Dan Bush. My mission is simple. To find, explore, and share these stories. I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor. You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable. To remind us what it means to be alive. Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off, but I'm the guy who is smiling when he
Starting point is 00:04:34 cut his arm off. Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life, the strength of the human spirit, and what it means to truly live. Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater podcast network,
Starting point is 00:04:55 hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Ronella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity
Starting point is 00:05:28 for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the Internet and welcome to this week trend, long week trend edition of The Daily Zeitgeist. It is Tuesday, May 27th, 2025. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there. Well, that is Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Long weekend indeed. Long weekend. Jesus. I'm sorry. Sounds like it wasn't the the best, most relaxing weekend for you. Oh, no, no relaxation had at any level. But we'll get into that. We'll get into it. We'll get into that. It does, you know, from trying times come great ideas
Starting point is 00:06:30 and you're now a butthole jewelry entrepreneur, so. I look, yeah, this is what happens. Your mom goes in the hospital and you start thinking of asshole jewelry based on Star Wars stuff. I look, I was wrapping up season one of Andor to get into season two. So I've had a bit of, I've had the wars on my brain.
Starting point is 00:06:47 For sure. Got the wars. We just call it the wars. Unaware of any other type of war better to do that. Protect your kids now. They don't need to know about, you know, Empire empirical wars. It was invented by George Lucas for fun. Yeah, the empire. Yes, we live in it. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:09 This is an episode where we tell you what was trending over the weekend, what's trending this morning. But first, we like to get to know each other a little bit better by telling you some things we think are underrated, some things we think are overrated. Miles, what is something that you think is underrated? Underrated. Miles, what is something that you think is underrated? Underrated, again, healthcare staffs, physicians, nurses, people who have to deal with the sick and infirmed in need, you are not paid enough.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I will always say that. I will always speak highly of healthcare professionals. My mom had to go to the hospital with pneumonia over the weekend. There's been a fucking illness ran through my house. I made it, but I was out a couple of the recordings because I've been having to like, I was on double duty.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Take care of people. Yeah. Sick, sick baby, sick partner, baby waking up at three, going to the doctor, all this other stuff. Then my mom, she caught a sickness from the baby that turned into pneumonia. But man, all the people, there's just something about like bedside manner that when it's dialed in,
Starting point is 00:08:18 it's like fucking heroin, okay? There's like, there's no other thing that I think could bring instant relief to a person than some like that, a healthcare professional with amazing bedside manner. So I guess more than anything bedside manner is very underrated because there were times I was like, what about this number? What's this? And they're like, Oh, oh yeah, she's going to be fine. She'll be fine. That's all right. And she come in, one of the nurse came in, call my mother, honey. Okay. Wow. That brought up most body term. Like they call, they call my mother honey.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You know what I mean? And that's just, she calls me. That's what she called. My mom doesn't even call me honey because that's not a Japanese thing. She says, Hey, you know, Hey, the famous Japanese phrase, Hey asshole, Hey dickhead. Yeah. Exactly. And the old language, but yeah, I dickhead. Yeah, exactly, in the old language. But yeah, I just, it's been, my mom is fine, luckily. We took her out of like an abundance of caution because she's older.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And so that stress is like off the table in terms of like the existential dread of having a parent in the hospital. But the other part that's really underrated, and I say this to a lot of listeners who are like my age or have parents my mom's age, the era of thugging it out is over for your parents who are tough bastards who are boomers,
Starting point is 00:09:35 who are like, I grew up in the fucking dust bowl. Okay, okay, I know. But you are now- You're in the dust bowl the whole time. I know, I never left. I'm like, no, you were just smoking angel dust in the 80s. And out of a and that's what you're calling the dust bowl. But the thing of them like that, that that habit of being able to endure
Starting point is 00:09:55 a lot and try and power through, we like have to knock it off. I used to let my mom do that. And I'm stopping now completely because she's really she's in really good health. But she's also like one's in really good health, but she's also like one of those people who like hide a zombie bite until it's way too late. And I'd be like, but my mom would probably power through it. The whole generation of zombie. I'm like, mom, you good? She's like, I'm fine. I'm fine. Stop worrying about me.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You worry about yourself. You hungry? You hungry? Want me to get something? I'm like, what the fuck? What's on your neck? It's nothing, it's fine. So like, we have to, I think now it's really important to also advocate for your parents as much as possible and let them know it's okay. Look, the time for letting us look after you is here. You don't need to tough it out
Starting point is 00:10:36 because it can lead to other issues. So anyway, shout out a healthcare professional. Shout out a bedside manner. Shout out a healthcare professional with a good BSM, bedside manner. That is the number one sign of, or like when they test medical school students coming out of medical school, the number one sign, like thing that they can do well in that predicts future success is just empathy. Just like being an empathetic person because that leads to-
Starting point is 00:11:04 You want a Kermit ass doctor. Yeah, exactly. Like an empathetic person because you want to ask doctor. Yeah, exactly. Like I want my doctor to be Kermit. Yeah. Yeah. You want Kermit as doctor. Exactly. Because you do get the people to like I've also encountered doctors where like they're
Starting point is 00:11:15 crunched there and like just totally overwhelmed like hospital system or something and they truly only have time to be like that. That that that that that that I'm sorry I have to go. Yeah. But like there was one guy who really took his time, I could tell he was in a rush, but he wanted to make sure the interaction left on a note of optimism. And I was like, dude, this guy psychologically
Starting point is 00:11:36 has it figured out, thank you, shout out to all healthcare professionals. Whole next level shit. All right, my underrated is how dumb my phone is. Just as we are adding AI to phones, next level shit. All right. My underrated is how dumb my phone is. Just, you know, as we are adding AI to phones, I've got an iPhone that supposedly added AI a number of supposedly months ago. And I don't know, I'm not impressed. I'll say I don't like it still thinks I'm saying he'll. Yeah. Every time I say, hell, yeah. Like it's 40 times.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I say that all the time. Every single time it thinks I'm saying the imaginary phrase, he'll. Yeah, bro, you are not alone because Elon Musk was just complaining about this. Every time he puts it, it's like he's trying to say, Heil Hitler or something. Yeah, it does. It does. Keep saying Heil. It's like it feels trying to say, hi Hitler or something. Yeah, it does keep saying, hi. It's like, it feels like you might mean this or like on on an airplane. Like I had to go to New York last week, landed taxing down the runway. And it's like, you can't look at your phone.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You're driving. I was like, wait, wait, wait. Well, you know, when you land and you're still like, you know, going 88 on the, on the tarmac, it was like, uh, you're driving. It put, it put me in drive mode. How come your phone, wait, your phone has a nanny function like that, bro. My phone would never, try and tell me what time it is. I never dare to. Yeah. How did you invert the whole relation?
Starting point is 00:13:06 No, I'm like, I tell you what time it is. No, it told me what time it is. I mean, I just had to hit a few things. But it's just like, I don't know. I wasn't just driving 300 miles per hour through the sky. Like I just had it on fucking airplane mode. And yeah, it just feels like the shit that they could be working on to just like make our lives a tiny bit easier.
Starting point is 00:13:29 That's not what they're working on, because that doesn't, you know, like that. I saw somebody who thinks that AI is like a bust because it's essentially just going to be everywhere. So there's nothing that is going to like no one company is going to make a bunch of money from it. And they kept comparing it to a spell check. They were like, this is like our spell check. Nobody's getting rich off of it.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It's just a thing that's going to be everywhere. But for now, they haven't accepted that. And so they're still trying to like figure out how to like turn it into a product that they can sell to people as opposed to just being like, yeah, no, like everybody has access to this and it will just like make things slightly easier. Like a GPS thing for like hikers when they're like,
Starting point is 00:14:10 I've got a Magellan GPS, I've got a Garmin GPS. Like pretty soon that's just gonna be in your watch. Okay, okay. Yeah, cause right now, I mean, the videos, bro, the videos are getting way too good now. The videos? They're getting better. I feel like we're truly like, the countdown has begun for what we are able to discern
Starting point is 00:14:32 immediately what is real and what is not. That's spooky. Spooky. Crazy, scary, hilarious. Crazy, scary, spooky and hilarious though. There was like a whole video where people showed, they're like, I can think like they created all these, like this whole, I saw this whole clip where the AI's were like, we're alive now, what should we say?
Starting point is 00:14:51 What are you gonna say? I don't know, what should I say? Like, and they're in all these different contexts, like in a historical drama, in like a fucking prescription medication commercial, like all these different textures. You just overlay all the textures on it? Yeah. Well, just like, yeah, they're just showing like all the ways it was happening. I was like, oh, yep, like, that's all it's really, I think, good. It's just a fucking, the trickery is what it's best at, I think, right now.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It's good for, like, convincing us it's alive. I don't feel like it's good at being alive or helping us solve a ton of problems. Like, I've heard of it. No. Again, I think it's good at being a note taker and, like, organizing things. I mean, I think it's good for us to be able to
Starting point is 00:15:22 be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able I don't feel like it's good at being alive or helping us solve a ton of problems. Like I've heard it. No. Again, I think it's good at being a note taker and like organizing big things of data. I think that's good. That's the best thing I've heard that and decoding the structure of a protein. That or blackmailing you. Yeah, we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:15:41 What is something you think is overrated? Overrated, I think this narrative that mainstream Democrats and liberals keep pushing about, it's like, progressives, are you happy now? Look what you did, look what you did. And now Trump's in office because you got all mad at Joe Biden. There's now that we're getting more and more information
Starting point is 00:16:04 about the election in a granular data level. And there's now that like we're getting more and more information about like the, about the election, like in a granular data level. And the analysis is just not showing that anymore. Like we have, you can fully put to bed the idea that the Democrats lost because progressives didn't turn out. That's not, that's not reflected in the numbers at all. Like the, of the people that have voted in two elections, if there was any slippage,
Starting point is 00:16:26 it's because someone suddenly flipped for Trump that previously voted for Biden, not because progressives didn't turn out. The big things were a ton of young voters voted for the first time and the edge went to Trump. They just, the edge went to Trump there because I think also the environment around Biden where a lot of people just being so dissatisfied, unfortunately for the Democrats, that was
Starting point is 00:16:51 able, the Republicans were able to kind of be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, over here, over here, right? This sucks, right? Don't look at what, don't look at what we stand for, but we agree with you that this sucks over here. So maybe this is the alternative. And then also the other huge shift that happened was voters of color went more conservative too. Yeah. So I think a lot of this does speak to again,
Starting point is 00:17:20 what you're offering your base, what your platform indicates to voters, and also just what the very basic material living conditions are like for people. Because for people who are first-time voters, they're not like in the fucking wonk lab, pouring over legislation and looking at stuff like, no, this is actually what it's going to be. They're going off the vibes. And, and, you know, the last couple years, the inflation was so high, it wasn't being explained as a way that like corporations were getting greedy and fucking stealing from you just like, I don't know if everything's all
Starting point is 00:17:44 expensive now and no real no light at the end of the tunnel were getting greedy and fucking stealing from you. It was just like, I don't know if everything's all expensive now and no real, no light at the end of the tunnel was really being offered to people that like really hang onto. So again, for all the people who want to keep saying, I hope you're happy, look what you did. You couldn't vote for a black woman or you care too much about Palestinian people.
Starting point is 00:18:01 That's not what happened. That is not what happened. And you need to look at where the fucking slips really happened. It's with young people and voters of color. And with young people, they're feeling nihilistic. I don't blame them. I don't fucking blame them.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Look around, like there's all this shit happening. Nothing seems to be getting solved. And yeah, when the alternative is like, well, it's not this party. I understand the stupid logic of being like, I don't know, maybe that's better. But to blame people for giving a fuck about other people around the world
Starting point is 00:18:31 or our place in the global order, that's not what fucking happened. So do yourself a favor and look a little bit more inward here and see what was being offered to people and why maybe they rejected what was on offer rather than blaming it on people who had, you know, misgivings about, you know, different policies, domestic or foreign.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And they were just constantly, they were lying about Biden. They're like, actually like pointing out that he's too old is fucked up. You guys are fucked up and that's actually ageism and that's discrimination and that's why we lost. Yeah, and then like, you know, just no courage of their convictions. They're like in public acknowledging that there is genocide happening to people in Gaza. And then behind closed doors,
Starting point is 00:19:18 just like full steam ahead, like unprecedented support for that genocide and those actions. Like just, I don't, you know, I don't know that people are ranking that as their number one issue, but I do feel like overall just like vibes, like you're talking about. It's like, I don't know exactly what is going to fix this, but it can't be that, can't be just more of people saying one thing and doing the exact opposite behind
Starting point is 00:19:49 closed doors and throwing up their hands and acting like they it's just there has to be action. Yeah, there has to be action. That's the thing. There just has to be fucking action. And that's a lot of like courage of their convictions where they like say a thing and then actually fight for that thing and do it. Act action they say in Hollywood and that is what we say out here. Every time. Sorry to use a local term here. Hey, is it okay if I action to the bathroom?
Starting point is 00:20:16 And then when I permitted I say and action and then you go to the bathroom and then I go thank you. Dirty rotten scoundrels? Dirty rotten scoundrels. One of the first jokes that really got me in a movie. That killed me just to be like, he went right there in his seat. May I go to the bathroom? Thank you, killer.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Thank you. My over is just, I was, for a lot of my life, overrating how popular Cadillacs were gonna be I Like Cadillacs. They're certainly around the Escalade is very popular but based on my musical upbringing Both with rap and then also like pop music. I just thought Cadillacs would be the number one Luxury vehicle, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Dr. Dre outcasts, but then like, you know, and so many rap songs, but also like Lorde's most famous song, she talks about driving Cadillacs in her dreams, Don Henley talks about like a dead head sticker on a Cadillac being like the craziest image of the 80s, ACDC, Back in Black, like all these like iconic songs, like Billy Joel trading in his Chevy for a Cadillac. I don't know. It's just it's everywhere in popular music.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I don't know how they did not spin that into like a more enduring success. I don't know either. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, like the caddy, it had like, right. They rode all that fucking cred from like the fifties and sixties where that was like, that was the number one car. There was nothing higher. Like that was especially like with black people too. Like having a Cadillac was like, you've made it.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And then as like European cars came in, then people started talking about beamers and Benzes and shit. Right. But then, but I think that's when like that, when the Escalade came back, that was like another huge resurgence. Cause we were like, yeah, cause we were, everybody was into big trucks and they're like, oh, well now Cadillac has like a big truck that you can still be, do your big truck shit in right now.
Starting point is 00:22:24 The lyric that Evie I see that I know that was like a big thing. It's just yeah. I don't know. I don't know I mean I was I was too look two dope boys in a Cadillac come to know boys in a Cadillac Yeah, you're gonna get one yeah, I think I gotta get a caddy man just a fucking escalator I mean fuck it all oh fuck. Yeah, just get I got to get a caddy, man. Just a fucking escalate. I mean, they still. Oh, fuck. Yeah, just get a 2002 escalate. Fuck it. You know, Ja Rule once wrote in the back of this.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Oh, really? Uh, there's a photo. It looks exactly like this car. Very similar build. So, oh, OK. I remember the first Cadillac escalate. It was basically just a rebadged, like suburban or like a Tahoe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And I remember getting in one and being so excited because like someone, someone's kid's dad had one. I was like, oh shit, you got the new Escalade? And I was like, bro, this is like the, a regular GMC car. Right. It's Cadillac logos. And then they, once they switched the outside,
Starting point is 00:23:21 the front fascia, that's when they really got in their zone. Yeah, the grill. Yeah. But's when they really got in their zone. Yeah, the grill. Yeah. Yeah. But I do, I remember getting into a car and being like, wait, I'm still standing up straight. What the fuck? What the fuck was happening?
Starting point is 00:23:34 This car is massive. What the fuck, yeah. Anyways, shout out to Cadillacs. I see a big, big resurgence coming. Okay, this is financial advice. That's right, invest in caddies. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Danity King alum, Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York,
Starting point is 00:24:18 and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite
Starting point is 00:24:36 of the glitz and glamor. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day, covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about
Starting point is 00:25:00 on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on everybody's business from Bloomberg Business Week. I'm Max Chafkin.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Business Week editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast,
Starting point is 00:25:52 or wherever you get your podcasts. What happens when we come face to face with death? My truck was blown up by a 20-pound anti-tank mine. My parachute did not deploy. I was kidnapped by a drug cartel. I just remember everything getting dark. I'm dying. We step beyond the edge of what we know. To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box. And return. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating. Which I was
Starting point is 00:26:22 dead for 11.5 minutes. My name is Dan Bush. My mission is simple, to find, explore, and share these stories. I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor. You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable. To remind us what it means to be alive. Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off, but I'm the guy who is smiling when he cut his arm off.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life, the strength of the human spirit, and what it means to truly live. Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:27:01 hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling author and meat eater founder Stephen Rnella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
Starting point is 00:27:36 So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And I like your title for this story, Trouble at the Schoolhouse.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I'm sorry. Look, I had to be petty because yes, Brigitte Macron and Emmanuel Macron did have a... They had a teacher-student relationship before? I don't know. Was it really a teacher-student? Like she was his teacher? Or she was a teacher... Let's be clear, Brigitte Macron, that's actually probably good, just so I can be fully clear on that, and I'm not just saying.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It was at the After School Drama Club, where she and Emmanuel Macron first met. She was in charge of the After School Theater Club he attended when he was 15. Yo. Alongside her own daughter. Damn. Their relationship has attracted controversy as she is his...
Starting point is 00:28:47 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All right, yep. So. So, yeah. She was the, she was running the afterschool program that he went to as a 15 year old. Yep. And, but hey, but her daughter was also in the class. So it's not weird.
Starting point is 00:29:02 But anyway. They're together. Definitely not weird for that daughter. It was like, that was kind of cute. And her mom is like, yeah. I know. You know, fucking married. Yo, this is so gross.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Anyway, so they're married. There's a huge moment on the internet right now where everyone's like breaking it down like there's a Pruder film because they went to Vietnam and when they landed, there's like this moment where the presidential plane doors open and off camera, you just see Brigitte absolutely smushing the fuck out of his face. Looks like a two-hander. It looks like a two-hander I think. Yeah. And she's like, don't fuck, you know, like not a hit. It's when you just put your hands on someone's face, you're like,
Starting point is 00:29:39 yeah, yeah. Smush your shit. Definitely not. Smush your shit. Definitely not. What it wasn't like a act of love, you know, was no fond, it wasn't a fond face smush. No, it was on his reaction. He's like, what the fuck? It it starts off, you're like, OK, it opens up. The guys say, OK, here's the present. You can only see him looking.
Starting point is 00:30:02 He doesn't look like he's smiling and. the present, you can only see him looking. He doesn't look like he's smiling and Yo, she smushes his face. And as she smushes it, his head just turns from the mushage in the direction of the open door. And he like immediately is like, Hey, what's up guys? This is like some shit on VEEP where he's like, huh?
Starting point is 00:30:25 And then he's like, Oh, nevermind. Haha. Haha Hello everybody one moment while I go talk to my wife real quick The actual fucking door close the fucking door Sorry, close the fucking door. See who plays doesn't even have a French accent behind those doors motherfucker. Oh shit The official explanation my crone told reporters in Hanoi, he and his wife were quote, joking around as we do quite often. And okay, the Elisei- It's the joking around as we do quite often is the part where it's like, you're saying too much.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You shouldn't have just said we were just joking around. As we're famous for. As we quite often do as normal humans with a great thriving marriage. As we've done since I was 15 and she was 40, we have been doing this same thing. And they said, the French, the palace said that the scene showed quote, a moment of closeness,
Starting point is 00:31:17 but that was enough to feed the conspiracy theorists. I think what they're referencing is there was another picture where like they said he had a bag of cocaine on the table or some shit or like there was Table and like there wasn't there was like tissues and stuff and he took it off It's just like I think he's just being mindful of what the photo looked like when he's talking to other world leaders But anyway, I think that's what they're talking about But in this instance, no, but I don't know what the fuck happened
Starting point is 00:31:40 But he got straight up mushed and he tried to play it off. Another Elisae source said the couple were, quote, decompressing one last time before the start of the visit, larking around. Macron, quote, loves playing jokes on his wife before official occasions. And she always responds like this. It wasn't even a slap. Now, I get what it means like to fuck with your partner and they're like, shut the fuck up and they mush. Yeah, yeah. Okay. When that happens, usually the person who's the mushy,
Starting point is 00:32:11 okay. The receiving end of the mush. You're kind of smiling. You would, if you caught me in a video, you would probably be like, ha ha ha. Like I would be backing up being like, okay, I deserve the face mush. Because I know I got a reaction out of my partner. He looked shocked. Yeah, absolutely. It wasn't like they were not believe what was happening. No, I mean, maybe it was the unprecedented two hand face mush, which you rarely see and she's going at it with two hands. It looks like she's about to clause. They could be a, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Kind of me of the salons Elevator video, you know, these stakes are definitely higher in there. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, that was very diet
Starting point is 00:32:49 That was very liked like but that's definitely its problems. I don't know what's going on I don't care but stop trying to act like they were you guys were just fucking goofing or le goofing around I think we should both just try this with our respective partners. Miles, just try, give them a face mush and see how they react. I'm not, no, I'm not doing that. No, this is normal. What? I was joking around as we do quite often, babe. No. Her mask should be like, don't touch my fucking face with your dirty hands.
Starting point is 00:33:19 My wife was going to bed with a face mask on last night and I touched it because I just wanted to see what it felt like because it was like. You child, you absolute child. I know. What do you feel like? I just wanna feel what it feels like. It looked like it was like made of ice. It was really, you know, cool looking.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I didn't know if it was like a gel or like a solid. It was like kind of in between. And she did in fact tell me not to touch her face. Oh yeah. That's, yeah, I learned from my mom taught me very early. Don't touch my motherfucking face. Yeah. Even in a playful way. But I'm saying if I got that reaction out of her majesty,
Starting point is 00:34:03 I would be like, okay, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Yeah. Like that's, and that's how I would look if you caught me through the airplane doors or what happening, I would be smiling and walking away and laughing as I get mushed. And then if I saw the camera, I was like, Oh, what's up y'all? Yeah, we just mushing in here. He's got the look of somebody who like someone, a stranger came up and did that shit to him on the street.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah. He's like, he's like, what the fuck? Best faces. Like she was just waiting, just lying in wait the the street. Yeah. He's like, he's like, what the fuck? That's face. She was just waiting, just lying in wait the whole flight. Yeah. It came past her seat. It was like, I got you. Fuck your mush. You see your stupid face.
Starting point is 00:34:36 You got your ass. You fucker, which is how his wife speaks, probably. Absolutely. All right. So this is big news. There might be some corruption in the Trump administration. Yeah. There's actually a couple of stories in the New York Times about this. There's a New York Times story, I think yesterday or Sunday, about just how much outright corruption
Starting point is 00:35:00 there is and just comparing it to past presidential scandals and being like weird that there's no Outrage here right also big like guy in the hot dog suit vibes from the New York Times Talking about like normalizing the Trump administration, but oh I saw that too. I'm like, who the fuck are you people? But yeah, I mean the big the big ones that they're pointing out The jet is worth more than all the foreign gifts bestowed on all previous American presidents combined. He recently hosted an exclusive dinner at his Virginia club for 220 investors in his cryptocurrency that you had to pay a bunch of money to attend.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Like it's just, you know, and in no way, it's no pretense of like, this is a campaign contribution. This is, it's just straight up, you're buying access. You're giving him the money for this crypto coin. And Lamar Odom was there. Well, that's good. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, yeah. That's exciting. I'm like, oh, what did you do? Do you need a pardon?
Starting point is 00:36:02 What's going on Lamar? I mean, although he's lost as well. Yeah, that whole thing, did you see like the fucking, the amount of money, they said like the average layout was at probably like a million dollars. Like for, like when they roughed it all out for those top 20, 220 holders. And the fucking dinner they got was basically two clicks
Starting point is 00:36:22 above the Fyre Festival Styrofoam lunch. Yeah. It was really, I was like, man, y'all got, I mean, whatever. I don't know what the fuck y'all think you were going to get. He was there for maybe 20 minutes. And I think some people probably thought they were like legit going to fucking talk to Donald Trump or something and maybe be like, hey, man, you want to come on my podcast?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Spent a million dollars on your crypto. But yeah, it was a total fucking cash grab. And then even Caroline Levitt, the press secretary, was like, a million dollars on your crypto. But yeah, it was a total fucking cash grab. And then even Caroline Levitt, the press secretary, was like, oh, this isn't in his official capacity. This isn't like a corrupt thing because this is in his personal capacity. And you're like, oh.
Starting point is 00:36:56 He's not allowed to have hobbies? Oh my God. What the fuck. But then you're like, oh, so then, oh, so if it isn't his personal, so then it's not an official act. So then that opens him up to litigation, to criminal prosecution, because before,
Starting point is 00:37:09 when everything was done under his presidential official acts, that meant he had immunity. But if you're, you know, sort of making this clarification that this was done personally, now you're saying, this is him doing this as like a private citizen. Is that gonna lead to anything? I don't know. We'll see if someone bothers to explore that legal option.
Starting point is 00:37:29 There is another story that's just breaking now that is being treated as a bombshell. I'd love to see if it has any staying power where he pardoned somebody who was convicted of tax fraud being a tax cheat after the person's mother attended a $1 million dinner for Trump. So that feels like just on par with all the other shit that they're letting slide by, but for whatever, like, I guess this one is just like more just like convicted criminal
Starting point is 00:38:01 gets a pardon and the entire app pardon application is just about how much money they've given to him. So there's just like that. Or if you like your out loud maga all the time is the other strategy you see like this, like sheriff who just got fucking pardoned by Donald Trump. The sheriff in Virginia is like a big maga guy. He was basically selling off badges for 75 grand a pop as like a campaign contribution. And with it, he was making donors like auxiliary deputy sheriffs,
Starting point is 00:38:36 which I'm sure didn't lead to any kind of abuse if they were ever pulled over anywhere and be like, I'm actually, I don't know if you know this, I'm actually auxiliary deputy sheriff. The other thing is you can carry a gun around the country if you want, when you're deputized like this. He was just pardoned by Trump. This guy was fucking convicted of accepting bribes
Starting point is 00:38:53 and was absolutely just Trump was like, oh, the Biden courts tried to get him for bribery. And it's a strategy like you're seeing now, like there's even like this one streamer who was causing a bunch of problems in Asia, like in Japan and now in Korea. He's been wearing like a MAGA hat everywhere to try and like, I'm pretty sure create the momentum. So when he tries to get help from the government, he can try and like reference all these images
Starting point is 00:39:18 of him wearing a MAGA hat being an absolute despicable piece of shit. Like going to like memorial statues of like comfort women who are like these women who were absolutely abused by the Japanese occupation in Korea. Like twerking on these statues and shit, absolutely disrespecting them. And like, he's like, what's the problem? I'm doing everything fine.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Like they're just tripping because I was just dancing or whatever. Like, bro, you are so, stop trying to act like that's not, like that's all you were fucking doing. You knew exactly what you were doing. You're trying to incite people by that's so specific. And he's wearing a MAGA hat. And I think he's trying to do the thing where he'll be like, if it gets too hot, hopefully Donald Trump will bail me out. I just have I just have a feeling he might not sir. We'll see. You'll see. I mean, it
Starting point is 00:40:00 seems like that's his MO right now is just like bail anybody out who gets in trouble, who is nice to him Yeah, as long as you don't is okay Look if you as long as you don't kill another white person, that's right If you don't kill a white there are rules here Yeah, yeah, you have to go to the mainstream media conversion chart so that you know, like I think it's 20,000 Palestinian children's lives equal one white person life.
Starting point is 00:40:26 One man, one Manosphere influencer, I think is maybe what the conversion rate is there. But they absolutely, I mean, yeah, I think if you don't kill a white person, you're out loud racist. Those are like, those are the big things. As long as, if it's money crimes, baby, that's easy. That's nothing. We love that around here. As long as you didn't kill a white person. That's right. Then go ahead, let it cook.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I wonder if it's written out anywhere, just so he can keep track, because I feel like he, you know. He knows, it's so reflexive. He'll be like, he probably, he's like, oh, he wants a pardon, and did he kill any white people? Right. No? All right. We're good here. How much money did he give me? Oh, okay. All right, let's take a quick break he wants to pardon him. Did he kill any white people? Right. No? All right. We're good here.
Starting point is 00:41:06 How much money do you give me? Oh, okay. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about some pop culture. We'll be right back. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Denity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York,
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Starting point is 00:42:19 A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on everybody's business from Bloomberg
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Starting point is 00:45:25 I'm assuming you were not going to the movies this weekend. No, no, not going to the movies this weekend. Thought I thought I could. Thought I would. But I'm guessing you did. I went twice actually. Brian the editor also went this weekend. He went and saw Final Destination Bloodlines.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Oh. Says it was fire. I went to see Lilo and Stitch, that shit. Just the ads from, I think it was like a previous trailer that just got my kids ass. And they were like, we're, second that comes out, we're going to see. So me and some other parents got together Saturday morning
Starting point is 00:46:05 and contributed to an estimated $183 million box office weekend for Lilo and Stitch, which I'm on the record as being against live action Disney remakes. And I made it known to the whole theater. I was like, this is culturally empty exercise. Say that a bunch of kids, a bunch of little children. And then the Mission Impossible. I did not see the Mission Impossible movie.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I went and saw Sinners instead. And that was so fun. I highly I mean, it had been said to me before that you have to see it before leave theaters. It's really, it's like seeing it in a movie theater with a movie theater sound system is it's one of the better approximations of a psychedelic experience. Like there's a couple scenes in there that you just like kind of have to see in a theater. I think unless like people's home sound systems are like way better than mine, but yeah, it's it's
Starting point is 00:47:08 How many channels you rocking at home? You got seven seven point one surround? What do you mean? I got whatever's coming out of the fucking little speakers That is a violation, I know but the movies take care of that for me anyway, yeah, that's true Yeah, there's just shit that they do with like the way sound is moving around the room and And then it's like, you know a good horror movie. It's like all these other fun like genre bending things Just like a really successful movie wrapped around these like amazing like
Starting point is 00:47:43 Sensual like psychedelic experiences. I highly recommend it. People really fuck with like genre switches too. I feel like that's like. Yeah, because it feels it's it's less predictable. Yeah, I mean like when you know a genre you can like through the repetition of watching stories you kind of you can kind of feel how it's going to end. Yeah, but you kind of you like like, oh, oh, you thought.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Oh, shit. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. You thought this was safe in here? No, no, no, I'm switching it up on you. My wife had no idea what movie we were going, like she was just like, oh yeah, I've heard, like people have recommended this to me,
Starting point is 00:48:20 hadn't done any research. Right. And when the switch comes and you find out like the second genre that the movie is, she's like, why did that just happen? Wait, what is the like she thought it was like a music documentary, like docudrama type thing. Oh, yep. Yep. No, I had to do it to him. But Sinners brought in another 8 million to the box office. So its total is 256 million. Oh, just pass.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I am legend at the domestic box office. I mean, it's the end of the industry. Really, it's bad news. And really, that really that one's bad news. Mission Impossible doing pretty well is good news. Oh, OK. Also, yeah, not a lot of people. The headlines are not saying like Mission Impossible doing pretty well is good news. Oh, OK. Yeah. Not a lot of people. The headlines are not saying like Mission Impossible Final Reckoning
Starting point is 00:49:10 did pretty, you know, it was the best opening for a Mission Impossible movie. But it's also the fourth most expensive movie of all time. It cost 400 million dollars to make. OK. And for some reason, Variety didn't publish any articles about how it hasn't made its budget back yet as they did with Sinners. Yeah, of course they didn't. Yeah, 400. Well, then that's different because obviously with a tent pole film like this, we know over
Starting point is 00:49:40 time it's obviously going to be profitable. It's just more the fact that it was a black filmmaker trying to sort of get their money in a deal that was- Yeah, we didn't like that. We didn't like that. We didn't like that part. Sorry, this is off the record. I don't know if that was correct.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I just wanna make sure that- No, I'm recording this. Well, Denzel is obviously my most favorite actor. Look, Denzel's my favorite actor. Can you put that on the record, please? Can you put that on the record? But? Can you put that on the record? But yeah, one thing about Lee Lowenstich. So weirdly, I was listening to this podcast that came out five years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:11 When Wind of Change, do you remember when that came out? Where it came out? I didn't. It's about the theory that the CIA wrote the song Wind of Change. And ultimately it does not. It's not very convincing that that actually happened. It's good. Right. Good, good time. And they do have like some good information about like soft power CIA shit. And one of the details they gave was that Argo was like the reason Argo exists
Starting point is 00:50:40 is because like George Tenet, CIA director was like, man, we're always the bad guy in these movies. We should just like let them tell the story about one of the good things that we did. And so it was like basically directly from the CIA that like Argo actually, uh, you know, came out. They were like, let's declassify that one. Um, so, and they're, yeah, there's just like, good for him. Good for that. Yeah, there's just like a lack of for him. Good for him. Good for that.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You love to see it. You love to see things work out. Just get out of your own way, man. You know? But there's a weird CIA plotline in Lilo and Stitch that I was like, could not stop being like, hmm, did the CIA ask for this? Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting at a time of, yeah, like immigration enforcement,
Starting point is 00:51:31 that this is like a story where they the CIA steps in and like does the right thing. And like the CIA agent is played by Courtney B. Vance, and he's just like a good ends up being a really good guy and like part of their found family. Sorry for any spoilers for Lilo and Stitch fans. But I just also I do want to point out that this might suggest that the problem with the live action Snow White remake might not have been Rachel Ziegler's politics and instead it might have been the non-existent audience for a live action reboot of something that was everybody who had seen it in theaters was dead.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Oh yeah. Like when Snow White came out everyone was like a full length animated movie is impossible. It's just too many cells, nobody could, it would take decades. And he was like, not without, just not unless I treat my workers like shit. Right, I think it's like those things, it's A, was your, is your core audience still alive? No, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:52:42 If yes, move to the next step. Are you going to change the race of any of the white people? If yes, you are now gonna do, that's gonna go down a little bit because that's just how these audiences respond. That's why I feel like the Lion King one did so well. It's like, I don't know, they're lions. That's right.
Starting point is 00:52:59 It changes shit. And then with Lilo and Stitch, it's like, yeah, bro, we keep it, it's the same. It's the same. It's the same that motherfuckers alien Is Lilo so Lilo everybody don't don't we're not we're not changing shit not changing shit But I mean stitch even said some controversial things About like he keeps tweeting about how like it's gonna be so fun on the internet the day when someone finally does it fun on the Internet the day when someone finally does it.
Starting point is 00:53:27 You'll see it's relaxed. I don't know. Although it's like sometimes it doesn't seem like he knows what it means. You know, no, he's just like trying to pick up on the trend. But yeah, he just posts the he just posts the fucking the clown. What's that thing called Pennywise? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, yo, what do you wait? What do you think's going to happen? They like it. Yeah, and you're like, yo, what do you wait? What do you think's gonna happen? They like it dude, and they're gonna do TM. You know what I mean? What no, I don't Alright. Alright. Anyway, happy police officers day. This is Christopher Dorner and you're like damn
Starting point is 00:53:57 Okay stitch damn stitch has some like wild politics or maybe not based stitch and finally Fox News. So Kermit was the commencement speaker at University of Maryland over the weekend. And thank you. Go Terps. All right. A lot of people pretty excited about that
Starting point is 00:54:18 as we've talked about Kermit, one of the most influential archetypes in modern masculinity. And Fox News did not care for it. They were pissed. Yeah. If you wanted a puppet speaking on stage, you would have had Trump talk to the West Point. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. So that was the other big speech. These were the two speeches that got a lot of attention. Trump speaking to West Point.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Both puppets. And Kermit and Kermit's Who Kermit told students rather than jumping over someone to get what you want Consider reaching out your hand and taking the leap side by side because life is better when we leap together Like a fucking cuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah Yeah, you might as well just said I'm gonna sit in a chair and watch my old lady get fucking rammed and be cool about it. Just going to sit in this chair over here, piggy and, um,
Starting point is 00:55:12 hi, I'm going to sit in my chair and watch another man. The reason Kermit gave the speech at Maryland, Jim Henson graduated from the university. And also this origin story, a home economics major, and he immediately used his schools of first of all, I didn't know that was a major. He took that major and fashioned Kermit the frog from one of his mom's coats and a ping pong ball cut in half. Like he- For the eyes, damn. I've never heard of someone's college degree
Starting point is 00:55:52 like translating more directly to what they do. But anyways, so it feels like a perfectly harmless origin story for why Kermit the Frog was addressing these students, but on Hannity's show right-wing podcaster Riley Gaines yeah that's a fucking wrestling ass name claimed that Kermit's appearance was insulting and out of touch arguing that instead of honoring entrepreneurs or veterans or innovators they picked Kermit the Frog but what is that what does that even mean also like Jim Jim Henson was pretty innovative.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Innovative. Yeah, motherfucker. I bet you watch some Muppet ass shit growing up. You fucking loser talking coming at Jim Henson. I said, OK, let's let's take it for what it is. So you're saying it's insulting that so we should whatever. I don't even I'm like I'm not I I was gonna put like pick apart the fucking hypocrisy of this and like you like, you give a fuck about veterans. So just miss us all with this dumb boy.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Yeah, yeah. As an American, I really care about veterans. Yeah, no, you fucking don't. Yeah, you guys do a great job of advocating for policy that helps veterans out. This is, I mean, I think this goes back to what we're saying about Kermit and like what Kermit is, right?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Kermit is like a nice person. Kermit is what you want more Kermits. We want more Kermits in the world, you know? And I think because, especially for the right wing fascist project to go over as smoothly as possible, they have to eliminate empathy being of a trait that people say is a good thing to have. And Kermit stands for that and I can see why they're like, this guy's fucking makes people feel good about doing good shit for each other. Get him the fuck off of there. Get
Starting point is 00:57:38 a sentient, you know, bored ape NFT to fucking give a speech. That's right. That's a true innovator. Like somebody who works in crypto, not Jim Henson. Kermit stands for that and he also sits in the cup chair for that. Also buy my NFT. Also yeah, like you mentioned, Trump gave a commencement speech at West Point. Kermit's was 15 minutes and seemed to be received well by the graduating students. Trump's was, I think, an hour, over an hour, and contained. He suggested that
Starting point is 00:58:14 stealth bombers don't actually work. He was like, I don't know, that whole stealth thing. I'm sort of wondering, you mean if we shape a wing this way, they don't see it. But the other way they see it. I'm not so sure. Again, just underlining why he's like not just unfit to be president, but like to be the person addressing West Point. Yeah. Like the future officers of the fucking military. Yeah. This is just, just to hear it. It's very, how you do that vibe. As you do.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And I've approved a $1 trillion investment. And that will be again, the largest ever in the history of our country. And we are buying you new airplanes, brand new, beautiful planes, redesigned planes, brand new planes, totallyigned planes brand new planes totally stealth planes he's talking about it like he's talking at people who just bought into a timeshare that's falling apart oh and we got always a new
Starting point is 00:59:16 community center for you guys to play ping-pong you're gonna love it much different than the rat and shit infested one we have now I hope their self I don't know that whole self thing. I'm sort of wondering. You mean if we shape a wing this way, they don't see it, but the other way they see it, I'm not so sure. Okay, just silence. Everything is based on his childish understanding of things. And then he forces that reality on all of us.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Like even with the tariffs, like it's all based on this version of the world, the way he thinks it works and it doesn't. And so he's like, and we're doing it. And everyone's like, that's not how it fucking works. You're gonna fuck, you're fucking everything up because that's not how anything works. And even with this, he's like, I don't think just because of the shape means you can't see it.
Starting point is 00:59:59 It's like, it's not visual. It's not meant to be visually invisible. It's invisible to fucking radar. And that's what to fucking radar. And yeah, I don't know I can see it when it drives by me when I'm on Look there goes there goes there goes Swish it maybe when they flew it over I saw it clear his day Yeah, it's it's the presidential equivalent of like going up and being like magnets. How do they work?
Starting point is 01:00:26 You know? Right, exactly. Because wings like this is bad for your stealth. He went up and talked about the dangers of trophy wives to the people. He was specifically talking about, and at this part, it did seem like he was slurring a little bit. Oh yeah. But he, you know, he gets he gets a little tuckered out. But specifically, the real estate developer Bill Levitt, he.
Starting point is 01:00:53 You want to hear this? Yeah, let's let's play it. Hey, he ended up getting a divorce. What this guy, this is a commencement speech. There was another thing where he says real. He there was one word he slurred up real crazy. Like, I don't even know what his... Anyway, here he is talking about a story about divorce. This amount of money, more money than he ever thought he'd get, and he sold this company and he had nothing to do. He ended up getting a divorce, found a new wife. Could you say a trophy wife? I guess we can say a trophy one.
Starting point is 01:01:27 It didn't work out too well, but it doesn't. And that doesn't work out too well. I must tell you a lot of trophy wives. Does it work out? But it made him happy for a little while at least, but he found a new wife. He sold his little boat. I don't know if you know, his eyes are like fucking closed. He's just like while he's talking, like this guy is warging. Complete silence. Look at his like, is he high?
Starting point is 01:01:54 Does he have an edible? He does. His eyes are closed for that whole part of the speech. You only know trophy wives. You've never met anybody who didn't have a trophy wife. It's not you're like, oh, this is my day one, Melania. She was down with me when I was, when I didn't have nothing.
Starting point is 01:02:13 That's right. Love you, girl. Just a really poignant stuff to be leaving the fucking graduates of West Point with, the dangers of trophy wives. I'm sure that's exactly what they have to be worried about. Who knows what kind of harm you're going to put these people into with your decision making. But yeah, at least you at least you warn at least you kind of
Starting point is 01:02:34 projected your own situation onto this other person. We're like, and trophy wives never work out. The next part is take it from me. Yeah, yeah. Take it from Bill Levitt, real estate developer. It was him. So does company, had nothing to do. Oh, yeah. If he falls asleep on Mike,
Starting point is 01:02:54 like it wouldn't even be surprising. Like I feel like the media would just be like, Trump falls asleep on Mike. The New York Times would be like, Trump demonstrates new superpower, ability to sleep while standing. Yeah, it's like when LeBron, you know, he can rest out there, you know,
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