The Daily Zeitgeist - I Take Your Question, Facebook Shadier Than CIA 7.25.19

Episode Date: July 25, 2019

In episode 440, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of the Space Cave podcast David Huntsberger to discuss the Taco Bell hotel menu, the Robert Mueller testimony, Facebook knowing more than the CIA, women being more likely to die in car accidents, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Here's the Menu Being Served Exclusively at the Taco Bell Hotel2. 10 key takeaways from Robert Mueller's testimony3. Mueller says ‘outright liars’ made it harder to complete his report4. Holy crap -- by the end of his questioning Gohmert's face was beet red, he was yelling, and it looked like his head was about to explode5. FACEBOOK KNOWS MORE ABOUT YOU THAN THE CIA6. Women Are Dying in Car Accidents Because The Only Female Crash Test Dummy Weighs 110 Lbs.7. David Huntsberger: One Headed Beast8. WATCH: Gabriel Garzón-Montano - Golden Wings [Official Video] Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just that one. Kept it short and sweet. You can do a full bomb for Yeetwood Mac as Chris Yamaguchi main puts it. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian and podcaster mr david huntsberger hello fellas welcome long time first time long time first time long time first time first time timeline yeah yes do you use the timeline were you mad when Facebook switched to the timeline? I don't pay enough attention to it to know really what that means.

Happened around 2012 maybe. I don't know. This is timely content. I think maybe that's where I was. I finally caved in and got into it right around then. Yeah. So it was all new to me. You do the mannequin challenge yet?

No, I never played. That's something so hot. I never. I did it too. Harlow Shake video maybe? Oh, man. a shake video maybe oh no i've never done like uh yeah any of those and then i was on the side of uh pamela anderson with the als ice bucket challenge because everyone's like folding in on it you know doing it just because someone's moderately famous tagged them right and she was like what's this money going toward they do all their research on animals and

they don't really have a lot of parameters as to how they're supposed to treat them. Let's figure that out. And I was like, alright. Wow. Gives me an excuse not to dump a bucket of ice water on my head. Isn't she like a QAnon person now or something? I think so. Something happened with Pam Anderson where she took a weird

turn into conspiracy. With her Julian Assange.ange oh that's it yeah she's a member of the uh Russian he's propaganda wing yeah Baywatch was a entirely KGB invented media it worked yeah yeah I never did the ice bucket challenge because nobody I mean Pharrell tagged me but like that was it I was like all right you're like as you were saying talk to me while John Legend tags me uh David we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to take our listeners through a few of the things we're talking about today mostly the Mueller thing uh because that's what

appeared to be what everybody was paying attention to today. But we're also going to get to important news like the Hotel Taco Bell menu. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We know what it looks like. We got some ideas of the people who were blessed enough to book their rooms. It's like you're getting to sleep inside a test kitchen of Taco Bell. The change between the OJ verdict or the Clinton impeachment hearings or the man on the moon, anything that was like the whole country being like, all right, we're all focused.

It's so different now. Let's get to that, but also talk about Taco Bell a little bit. Of course. Really, really well distributed these days where it just is a small piece of what people are talking about. We try and touch every corner of this great country. It's a good microcosm of culture at large

man. It really is. Thank you. Have you reviewed our podcast yet? The American Brain. That's what I wrote. This is a five star review listeners. I'm Scramwood391. I wrote that. We're going to talk about Facebook and where that timeline went and the redesigns from back in 2009, why we're unhappy with them.

Also, somebody from the CIA went to work at Facebook. And so we'll get their impressions of just how much scarier Facebook is than the CIA. We're going to talk about a couple of the ways that the world is conspiring against women. The world is sexist, even when it comes to car accidents, but also presidential elections. We'll talk about Sylvester Stallone and his plans for the Rocky franchise. But first, David, we like to ask our guests, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are. I know the last couple times I've done the show, you asked me that, and I always go,

I don't search a lot. So this time I kept it up. It is LA weather, LA traffic, and then I did a podcast with this guy, Josh Molina, so I looked him up. He's been in a bunch of stuff. Very nice, real funny guy. And then the pertinent things, I was having a conversation with someone.

They had gone to Costco and I was like, oh, you're lucky we weren't in a shooting. And they go, what? What are you talking about? And that's how common the shootings have gotten where I was like, there were two within a week at Costco and no one had heard about it. So I looked up Costco shooting and then it auto-filled San Diego and auto-filled Corona. And they were, you know, when there's under like five casualties, people are like, that's barely a shooting. Right.

Yeah. There were two in a week. And so, and then, and then I looked up the band Black Pumas. Okay. And McLogan's, which sells screen printing supplies in downtown Los Angeles. Doing some screening? Yeah. Doing some, I started, I used to always like buy stickers because I have a screen printed like shirts

and posters and stuff a bunch over the years. And then for whatever reason, I always associated like stickers as being, well, you got to buy those. And I realized how easy it is to do it. Oh, like to just mass produce stickers on your own? Yeah, just make like screen print, just make a bunch of my own stickers. I bought a paper cutter, cutting up my own stickers, punk rock oh hell yeah man yeah you got pins too making pins no i don't know what i think just because i never i know i'm not even that much of a sticker

person i'm definitely not uh pins on my lapel yeah so it never occurs to me really only i don't know yeah the only pin you wear on your lapel i believe is the american flag you see it that's right i'm looking right at it and did you make that yeah this is an am flag, right? You see it. That's right. I'm looking right at it. And did you make that? Yeah. This is a nail. It's like a resin. Yeah, looks great. Thank you.

The dyeing is hard. If you look at the blue, it's not spot on, but it's close. Oh, I'm glad you said that because I didn't want to embarrass you. As long as you know the- It's bright green, David. Well, it's close. It's a family. Yeah.

It's a family of colors. What is something you think is overrated? I was going to go in on a person. I don't think that's necessary. So I thought the term Stan is ridiculous. Okay. I mean, that's so overrated that people use it. And the character that it's named after, doesn't he drive his car off a bridge with his girlfriend in the back and she's pregnant?

And she's dead. I feel like a more appropriate Ultra fan would be along the lines of Scrappy Doo. Love Scooby, he's just such a fan of Scooby, but he himself is a pretty good little guy. I'm Scrappy to that guy, or I'm Scrapping them. I Scrappy. I Scrap them.

Yeah, I Scrappy them. Something like that is more appropriate. And, did you watch the case against Adnan? No. Adnan Tain? It's mostly just a regurgitation of the serial stuff, but there are a couple of things that are revealed in it that are fairly interesting. One,

he was going through a phase where he was real jealous that she had just ended things abruptly, and he was listening to a lot of Eminem, and then they find her in this trunk. Come on, guys. That's something. Wait, so HBO is on the team of he did it? No, no, no.

The documentary more so makes it – you kind of leave in the same space. They present some stuff. He's presented at one point with the option to admit his guilt and get out of prison and he doesn't take it. He's convinced he's going to get a new trial, and then they say no. So he presumably, from now on, is going to spend the rest of his life in jail, which people would look at and be like, man, that was a bad move. Right.

So him doing that, you can't tell. I mean, on the surface, it looks like, oh, he's definitely not guilty. He wanted to get his innocence. On the other, it's like, well, maybe his conscience was sort of like, I like i don't really i did murder her and i know she wasn't found in the trunk she was found in the the by the in the woods by that guy lincoln park yeah yeah right so that i mean he should have been listening to lincoln park right there you go yeah then he would have just been having some sort of angst or something yeah he would have just been crawling in his own skin that would have just been having some sort of angst or something. Yeah, he would have just been crawling in his own skin. These wounds, they will not heal, man. That would have been the final nail in his coffin

if they proved he had been listening to Linkin Park and then her body was found in Linkin Park. It was like Eminem and Linkin Park, and he's clearly... Well, fear is how he fell. Right. Yeah, I don't know. One thing, and I don't know why. Confusing what is real.

It doesn't matter how hard I try with this, but it is the one thing that I don't know enough about confusing what is real. It doesn't matter how hard I try with this, but it is the one thing that I don't know why. But the little brother, when the cops came around, were like, I think he was nine at the time, was like, you should check out her ex-boyfriend. Oh, really? Yeah, there are a couple little things like that that stand out, like, well, that's interesting.

Yeah, I didn't know that. That wasn't in serial. Right. Come on, Sarah Koenig. Well, we'll have our moment to talk to her. Yes. Catch her ear. Yeah, that's right.

In Orlando. What is something you think is underrated? C-SPAN. Yeah. Get on C-SPAN. Fuck yeah. Why on earth is it not the most popular thing? The crazy QAnon people are like, it's a conspiracy, all the wealthy, all the gas, blah, blah, blah.

And then everyone else is like but i i watch the real news i watch msnbc where they cry at stuff yeah i think it's just like robots going next caller right here's some stuff they don't comment it's just you make up your own mind when you watch c-span i think the country at large could use a healthy dose of that stop letting these assholes tell you how you think. Make it up. Make up your own mind. C-SPAN's the best for that.

It's just funny because the anchors of that who have to do those shows where people call in, the patience that they fucking demonstrate is unreal because some of you are like, no, man. Like, I remember when Obama was trying to do Obamacare and like the Tea Party was coming up and it's just amazing to hear a person who's hosting a show have to hear someone's just outrageous xenophobic take and then be like, interesting. Well, thank you for calling next. And it just loops through Democrat, Republican, Independent and just loops through over and over.

And you do start to get a sense. If you hear like the voice, you hear this, I don't know, man, I think it's a bit of a frame-up that only ever belongs to one party yes and the host like you're saying they don't even flinch they go okay and why is it a frame-up well if you look back that stale dossier that's okay yeah they just and where did you read that right and that's how it should be that's such great journalism i was noticing the same thing about actually during the Mueller testimony. You could just look at the person's face and tell what party they were from, from how pink their face was. The high flush that they got seemed to indicate republicanism.

C-SPAN is basically twitter the tv show like political twitter the tv show because you're gonna hear everything and anything sometimes and like just on twitter sometimes shit has nothing to do with politics what just happened someone they'll just be lonely people are like and you know the other thing cox cable they actually they're not they don't hold their word up because i signed up for this rate for stars. And now I have stars Latino and I don't know what these movies are. And they're like, thank you. This might not be the place for that.

Yeah, they never admonish them in any way. Well, because it's a nonprofit and it was born out of the cable industry basically saying like here's our service for people to say look here's a show that was literally just a lot like big brother for a capitol hill like you can just tune in see what's going on yeah half the time it's not interesting but that's our service to you yeah i guess uh nuke gingrich was the first person to like kind of leverage that right make it a thing. Or at least use it. Yeah. By like, he started doing grandstanding playing to the cameras on C-SPAN. Oh, because he's like, wait, this will be on C-SPAN.

Right. Probably a smart move that a lot of elderly people are at home watching it. There is an audience for sure. 100%. Trying to bring that audience a little younger, though. Get that Zeitgeist crowd in there. And other people will pick it up. Jack and I hosting C-SPAN.

All right, yeah, caller. Yeah, man, Q, man, shut the fuck up. Next. They're like, you can't. We're nonpartisan. Okay. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?

So along the lines of the Allen Iverson talking about practice we're talking about practice if you know the backstory of that he's sitting here and his we sit here talking about practice i'm supposed to be a franchise player supposed to be a franchise player his best friend died the day before and that's the reason he's like so upset about that so that's a myth that he was just being a punk about like i don't want to practice what oh he's like his best friend from childhood had just died and so he's like not a game was he killed or did he die I think he was in a stick up

sort of situation so he's going through a lot of shit and he just let it roll off his back like alright everyone wants to have fun with that and it's a thing the other one that's in that same space is I don't know how on earth I saw this press conference when i was a

kid but like when kobe uh left lower marion high school has a press conference in the gym lebron does the decision which he raised money i believe televising it like a million dollars for boys and girls club everyone shits on him because he said taking my talents to miami right south beach yeah kobe said that in 97 or whenever he said i'm taking my talents to Miami, to South Beach. Kobe said that in 97 or whenever. He said, I'm taking my talents to the NBA. Oakley, frog-skinned glasses on his forehead, in a suit, standing on a podium, just looking so like, I'm the king of this school. Hell yeah. And he goes, thank you for all being here.

I just want to let you know I'm taking my talents to the NBA. So it's a myth that LeBron created that. It was a throwback. It was kind of the tip of the cap because LeBron never got recruited. He went right to the NBA. So it's a myth that LeBron created that. It was a throwback. It was kind of the tip of the cap because LeBron never got recruited. He went right to the NBA. Never really. So this was his chance to do that.

That's where that came from. Those are two myths, I think, that are in the same sphere. Another fun fact, Kobe Bryant loved those Oakley sunglasses. If you have his upper deck rookie card, he has those glasses on him. In a game?

No, it was from draft day. That would be amazing, though. I'm pretty sure he's in a tan suit with Oakley sunglasses. If you have his upper deck rookie card, he has those glasses on them. Yeah. In a game? No, it was like, it was from draft day. I'm pretty sure he's like in a tan suit. He was wearing Oakley's during draft day? No, but he had them like on his head. Wow.

Yeah. Yeah. I hate that. This does not change my opinion about anyone. The Iverson thing. You better love Iverson. Such bullshit. Oh,

I love Iverson. Yeah, I absolutely, Allen Iverson, I think should be studied. He needs love Iverson. Yeah, I absolutely, Allen Iverson, I think, should be studied. He needs a do-over. See, this is his rookie card. Wow, there it is.

That's the look from the- That was the look in the late 90s. If you didn't have those Oakleys, you were a fucking loser. And I would, man, I had so many fake ones I would buy at the Santee Alley. Yeah, you have those fake ones. You're like, these look absolutely identical. And then all the paint would wear off. To be honest, I don't know if I've ever seen a real pair of those sunglasses.

Like, they were just so pervasive. Like, counterfeit Oakleys were just everywhere that I was like, I don't know if I know anyone who actually has real Oakley money. Also, independent of the fact that his friend had been killed, he should have been mad that anyone would ask him about practice because he didn't have to. He would roll up two team buses to go to the game from still being out from the night before

and be drunk and still drop 50 points. That's how good he was. And so, yeah, even if it wasn't true that his friend had just died, like that, that would be, I think he would be fully within his rights to get mad if someone was like, well, why don't you try harder and practice? It's like, I'm a superhero. I'm a franchise fucking player. I'm not just a franchise player. I'm a franchise fucking player. I'm not just a franchise player.

I'm like a generational athlete. I could go out to a football field and throw a football inside a trash can from 50 yards away, and I haven't picked up a football in a decade. I could throw this football clear over the mountains. But it was an inflection point, perhaps, for the perception of the NBA, because Larry Brown was a bad guy there, because he was trying to be like a disciplinarian to millionaires. And now the idea of a coach being like, I'm going to punish you somehow is laughable. Yeah.

It's true. The pendulum of player power is on the complete other side. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully it stays there because they're the ones who put the butts in the seats. Yep. Speak for yourself. I love coaches.

Yeah, you do love an animated coach. Oh, yeah. You stan an animated coach. I stan an animated coach, yes. In the sense that you write them letters every day. I write them letters, yep. And will murder Her Majesty. Dear Pop.

You haven't responded to my letters. I do like Pop. That's a good callback to Stan, though. Yeah, it's great, I stan him. Did you ever see the Kings of Comedy, the original Kings of Comedy, where there was some outtakes and Cedric the Entertainer is doing his Phil Jackson impression? No. And it just involves whistling through his pinkies.

And he goes, Scotty! Scotty! It's so good. Yeah, when you look at some of the when the guys are miked, the timeouts, like the stuff they're saying is not like- We're going to play hard. As a transcript would not look great. Some coaches have like interesting insight, but a lot of times it'll be like,

all right guys, we need to crash the boards. It's like, yeah. Right. Yeah, I see the stat. We're getting out rebounded. Teamwork guys, we need to crash the boards. It's like, yeah. Right. Uh-huh. Yeah, I see the stat. We're getting out and rebounded. Teamwork, guys. Pass the ball. Remember that.

Pass it. Guys, let's be a little more patient, okay? Maybe that, okay? And then that seems like intense coaching. A little more patience. Oh, this guy. Whoa. Okay, Zen master.

All right. Well, let's talk about Hako Bell Hotel. The Taco Bell Hotel. I like Hako Bell. Hako Bell. Shout out to Hako, Costa Rica. Because, Miles, it seems like you're experiencing intense FOMO. Oh, my.

Look, of course. Yes. Yeah. My blood type is fucking Diablo sauce. Yeah. The Doritos Locos right you're into that i don't i'm not really into i'm more with like staple ones like one when the when they had the old logo around the time of the demolition man uh promotion they did yeah because they redid the

logo you know what i mean and they used to be run for the Border, that problematic tagline. Run for the Border. Yeah, do you remember that? No. It was like Taco Bell, Run for the Border. Did they still use the bell, same bell sound? Bum. Yeah, I think they still bell it up. They kept it up.

But, you know, as we all know, or at least I know very intensely, the rooms for the Taco Bell Hotel in Palm Springs ran out in two minutes. Two minutes flat. Two minutes fucking flat. We were both on the site. I was using a VPN from Bologna, Italy. Oh, wow. Italia, even. Oh, you went to Italy? Well, yes.

I have. Electronic. We'll have to talk about that at some point. It's really great, actually. If you haven't been, you simply must go. But to add to that, I was unable to get on there. Most people weren't. We all weren't. And the one thing I was always interested in in the promo was like, there will be a special menu because it's a hotel. It's chic now.

And we've now we're getting a little preview of what those dishes are. And they, you know, they're really elevating their game. The first one, avocado toast. Ada. Okay. It features a multi-grain toast with avocado mash breakfast radishes chipotle seasoned sorghum cereal grain and diablo puffs i'm not sure what the diablo puffs are but it looks like you know pretty it looks like avocado toast yeah tostadas are a thing but there's no toast there's

no nothing there's no tostada that is purely a a nominal hat tip to the fact that it's Taco Bell. I knew nothing about this, and it's already in life each day that we go, is this real life? But this is really compounding that. Yeah. The Taco Bell Hotel? Yeah, limited edition. It's a pop-up.

It's actually a brand activation, David. Oh, sorry, sorry. You have to understand. I am a fan of that. It's an activation. Well, now that you put it like that. It's a pop-up. It's actually a brand activation, David. Oh, sorry. You have to understand. I am a fan of that. It's an activation. Well, now that you said put it like that. It's an experience. I do like that.

Put it into marketing terms for me. But actually, in Spanish, tostada means toasted. So I guess you could get away with that. Also, the Toasted Cheddar Club. It's just a sandwich, really. That one looks like the most regular thing. This makes me uh less upset that i did not get these okay the next one though fire chip chilaquiles okay red

triangle chips i mean the chilaquiles look pretty good now are the red triangle chips doritos i don't know man they're fire chips so maybe they're coated in fire sauce. Like fire sauce dust. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. They are doing it like so literally. Right. Why do they have to describe it like an alien seeing Doritos for the first time? Triangular starch pyramids for your consumption. And then also the one that's very interesting is a Baja Blast, as they say in España.

Birthday freeze. And it basically just looks like a frozen fucking, it just looks like a Baja Blast slushie with sprinkles in it. But again, Baja Blast, exclusive to Taco Bell. The Baja Blast birthday freeze. Yeah. So it's got little birthday cake, like funfetti in the Baja Blast. Oh, man. Do you think we should? I think I'm just going to hang around outside and try and just sneak in.

Yeah. I mean. You know what I mean? I think that'll go pretty well. I think so. I'm pretty good at sneaking in stuff. Most things that sell out in 20 seconds, they pretty lack security. Yes.

Well, based on how I used to see people sneak into music festivals and stuff, where there's a will, there's a way. Yeah. And if there's Baja Blast Freeze,'m gonna be there Baja Blast um I'm disappointed by this because it seems like other than the uh birthday Baja freeze uh everything is more uh hotel influenced than Taco Bell influence yeah well I think if you ate Taco Bell for every meal for even two nights straight, the bathrooms would be a disaster.

Yeah. I don't know. I think you have to introduce regular food. That's not true for me. But everyone knows this and it sold out so quickly. Right. Is that the thing with Taco Bell? Everyone jokingly goes, I get diarrhea, but I love it.

Right. I mean, look, truth be told, I don't get diarrhea from Taco Bell. I just try and seem human. I have garbage stomach. Yes. I just do weird get diarrhea from Taco Bell. I just try and seem human. I have garbage stomach. I just do weird farts after Taco Bell. Nothing other than that. Do you genuinely enjoy it when you're eating it or is it like a childhood thing? No, I like it.

I like it. But the thing is, it occupies, like in my brain, it occupies another space for like trash food. I don't hold it up as like, you know, what is a fucking culinary experience? Taco Bell. I'm a creature of habit. I grew up eating Taco Bell. I smoke weed.

I like the, the things that it does to me, uh, deep down inside. And so that's where I come from. Nice. I don't smoke weed and I still eat it. So I don't even have that.

So I guess maybe to your point, it maybe is a momentum from childhood that I cannot break. Like it's just the, once I broke Taco Bell inertia as a child, I'm reaching terminal bellocity. I'm probably like on a, every three years. Right. Oh yeah. Taco Bell, it's late.

There's nothing else. I love Taco Bell. And then I'll have, I enjoy every bite, but then yeah, that thing afterwards, never again. And then three years later, same's nothing else. I love Taco Bell. And then I'll have, I enjoy every bite. But then, yeah, that thing afterwards. Then right after, you're like, huh. Never again. And then three years later, same process. Yeah. That's how I feel with Arby's.

I don't eat Arby's as much as I should. Arby's changes, man. You were an Arby's kid? I feel like. Well, no, see, that's the thing. I didn't get Arby's as much as a kid. And then I had my first Arby's around like 13. And I was like, yo, what the fuck?

This beef and cheddar with horsey sauce? That's around like 13 and I was like yo the fuck this beef and cheddar with horsey sauce that's actually how I was with Taco Bell I didn't have it as a very young person but then I had it with a friend of mine's family after a basketball game and it was a revelation I like the anonymity that you've a friend a friend's family who shall not be named right I feel like people here have to be so careful when they're raising their children, like healthy and natural and non-GMO and vegan even. And because all you're doing is raising a little child that sees all their friends, or even just one friend.

You go over to sleepover and you're like, that Taco Bell. Right. It lives in their brain forever. And then when they're old enough, they're like, I mean this all the time. That is me. Yeah. That's so many people. I had an immigrant mom who did everything.

I want this thing. No, we can make that at home. Yeah. No, that's bad for you. It's poison. Cut to me like at every like American kid friend's house being like, can I drink all this ranch dressing? Eating actual poison.

Oh, yeah. From under the sink. My mom said it's poison. I don't know. Is that good? That must be equally good. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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sponsored by diet coke i'm carrie champion and this is season four of naked sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture up first i explore the making of a rivalry caitlin clark versus angel reese i know i'll go down in history people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game every Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here to let me waste. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?

This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I think all three of us spent some time watching Mr. Muller this morning. End to end. End to end. You got up at five? Yep.

Wow. I didn't set an alarm. Well, part of me was like, you know what? I know it's going to be sort of each side repeating the same things over and over for three hours, which it was. But part of me wanted to see his opening statements. And when you actually watch it and you get the feel of the rhythm of it is when you really start like seeing it for what it is yes and like where what the what the playbook was for the republicans what the playbook was for the democrats as tv uh it was excruciating it was one of the worst things i've ever watched on tv as a performance uh i think he came off as somewhere between Bartleby the Scrivener and dehydrated SpongeBob.

Hello? I can't have that. Muller did? Yes. What? As I said before, I will not be referring to anything with a steel dossier. That's where the never really seeing him in public really came into focus. All the images are kind of touched up

where he's still like a square-jawed Marine. Yeah, he looks like he could land a fucking right right on your jaw. Oh, yeah. And then you see him and you're like, oh, he's 85. Yeah, he's an elderly man. Yeah, no, he's 74.

And I think that showed it. It was one of those moments where it's like, don't meet your heroes, guys. an elderly man. Yeah, no, he's 74, and I think that showed. It was one of those moments where it's like, don't meet your heroes, guys. That's right. Like if you were one of these liberal people who's like, you know, wearing your fucking Mueller time head-to-toe outfit, be like, here we go, Bobby. Yeah. And he's like, what?

Who? Who's speaking? Oh, be gone. But hidden within that is like, because it did start so rough and bumpy and a lot well i can't yeah who's talking i guess is that a thing that like because he seemed confused constantly well you're sort of like in a not panopticon but like in this half circle sort of situation so like when some voice out of nowhere, you know, like there are people literally end to end. So it's not like there a light goes on.

It's like serving number. This congressperson. There would be like somebody would be like three minutes into their question and then he'd be like, oh, there you are. I'm sorry. Can you repeat that? Are you fucking the whole part? I'm sorry. Repeat that.

The whole fucking part, dude. No, the question. I'm sorry. Please speak into the mic. I'm sorry repeat that the whole fucking part dude no the question i'm sorry please speak into the mic i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry is a lot of his mic discipline also left something to be yeah he i think rest assured he will not be guesting on this podcast and people who are political like who pay attention to the political scene and like have seen him testify before said he seemed very much like he had lost a step or something like yeah like in the past everyone's hopes are really resting on a guy who desperately does not want to speak in public yes yeah you just never have all of your cards or whatever eggs in that basket whatever the analogy is because they're gonna do that they're gonna be like a little tight, a little nervous. Yeah, there are a few things like, I mean, between A,

him from the get-go and even before he actually sat down, he was saying, I'm only going to stick to what is in the report. I will not fucking speak about anything else. Don't ask me to fucking give you insight into how we were deliberating within this office yeah i will talk about what's on paper and despite that everyone kept doing the thing that he told them he wasn't going to do right i'm not going to read my report to you right he's like right and he had coming into the second part had to make one slight correction so otherwise he you know coherently even though it sounded weird, gathered his thoughts, said what he said to not contradict himself in any way.

People were like, oh, he didn't know the report. It's an enormous report. He would reference it. What are you talking about? Reference it. Okay, here's what I can say on that. Right. It just showed the glaring difference between if you don't speak with ultra confidence, people will make it look like everything you said was idiotic.

If you say ran to the ramparts and took over the airports with confidence, people are like, that was pretty good. That's fucking asinine. This guy. Well, that's when you can tell like a lot of the takes were from people who were just overly invested in how the TV clips, the Twitter moments were going to look like. Where it's like, man he's he's he's stumbling to find stuff in the notebook it's like no no my hold on speaking the fucking substance of what he's saying is important right you know that also it does indicate how much or how much people put into like well how how fucking confident was he right yeah yeah yeah i mean i

think as tv it will play better like on the news and on like as it's watching it just straight was brutal because like even when he was referring to something in the report, there would be like 30 seconds where he was having to like locate it. Right. And then be like, okay, there it is.

Yeah. And, but the content of what he said was pretty clear, right? There was. Yeah. I mean, there wasn't a fucking thing that he said that Republicans could run with and be like, you see. Right. Mueller fucking all the takes from the right of that are in regards to this testimony are he doesn't know his own report. He was struggling to find things in his own report. He didn't really understand facts. It's so clear that the Democrats were actually the real ones behind the wheel of this thing. Oh, thanks to the Democrats for that terrible showing. Mueller looks lost. But I mean, aside from those parts, everything that was actually substantive that he said was not a good look for them right it was like if you if a crime had occurred that they went out and caught the majority of the suspects there was still one at large and they just didn't quite have enough and maybe it filtered into similar to like a mafia structure so they're running wow we've we've uh captured all these people we've tried them we've

convicted them and then this would be like a courtroom drama where the defense would go yes but the person who initially called 9-1-1 has a history of alcoholism can we focus on that right yeah why is that what you're focusing on oh so you were the detective yes well this guy isn't even hot or young so i don't know why we're not even listening to him what the fuck is this man um yeah i mean here are some things that i just had as like big takeaways that like again weren't great when they were sprinkled throughout six seven hours of testimony uh but his report he specifically reiterated his report did not exonerate trump uh was not a witch hunt uh russia interfered on Trump's behalf.

They are interfering while we sit here. So Trump just being like blasé in his administration, not taking active measures to stop the active measures is not a good thing. Trump welcomed their interference. Describing Trump embracing WikiLeaks as problematic is an understatement. Yeah, because they kept trying to be like, that's unpatriotic, correct? And he's like, I don't want to say it like that. Well, it would not be good if he was actually embracing a hostile foreign agent or an intelligence agency.

That would be problematic. Problematic is an understatement. Right. Yeah, yeah. Damn. You bring this hero out of the depths of the Coliseum. Right. Everyone there is waiting, and the first sound you hear is them go,

Ha-ha! Ha-ha! What the fuck? Yeah, lions! Yeah, he said some of the people he was investigating on Trump's side weren't telling the truth, and some were outright liars and would generally agree that lies from Trump's staff members impeded his investigation.

And he denied for the first time Trump's claim that he was trying to get hired as FBI director. I think maybe the screaming of the GOP helped people not real, if you were, I guess, on the fence. I mean, this hearing was really only to maybe sway the slim number of voters who aren't quite sure what to make of this and it seemed like the republicans in that first hearing in the judiciary committee they were just like let's just fucking scream at this guy and treat him like a piece of shit right there's one moment where louis gomert

who's a republican he's like i would like to enter this document this article robert muller behind the mask and then like jerry nether's like yeah like he's smirking he's like sure dude and then goes on and just screams like it just listen i don't even need to give you context because even his question i wasn't even sure where he was coming from okay the thing he was saying is like isn't it unfair to these people who are involved in this investigation? They've been called treasonous! And he's like, yeah, but that's why I tried to wrap up my interviews with them so I could move on.

And then he just keeps screaming. And they see the big justice department with people that hate that person coming after them. And then a special counsel appointed who hires a dozen or more people that hate that person, and he knows he's innocent. He's not corruptly acting in order to see that justice is done. What he's doing is not obstructing justice.

He is pursuing justice. And the fact that you ran it out two years means you perpetuated injustice. I take your question. His time has expired. That was my favorite, Bob. Of all the times he didn't, his non-answers, because they were over, what, 200 times? He was like, no, fam, I'm not talking about that. Yeah.

When he said, I take your question, was my favorite not talking about that yeah when he said i take your question was my favorite just pass right back yeah i take your question yes i heard your question and let's move forward now eat this right but yeah again i think that's where louis gomer's attempt at for that clip specifically i think was saying donald trump was doing all this shit because he was actually getting at the truth which is how that's why he had to lie to investigators because that the truth is actually the lie that he's telling. So he's pursuing. See that? And I screamed when I said that.

So that will be on Fox. They were trying to play that angle a little bit of like this is un-American. And I liked how every third Democrat, especially questioning him, would be like, you've got a purple heart. You've dedicated your entire life to – it was just so yeah good little level of contrast the tone changed though in the intel committee because they those congress members were less uh into like badgering him a lot of them actually thanked him to start off that wasn't as that wasn't happening as much in the judiciary committee they probably got some like intel that it was like testing bad with Fox News for them to badger a Purple Heart.

This guy looks like what people think their hero dad is. Right. Like, so whatever. But people had mentioned, especially, you know, you have all these Twitter attorneys and things that are like, well, reading this and looking, there's probably a sealed indictment somewhere that the moment he's not president, that will get delivered. And that feels more probable than ever. And yet I think it'll still have no impact. Well, a lot of people were, yeah, a lot of, there were a lot of articles like written based on his

response of saying like, if the, you know, after leaving office, can the president be indicted? And he goes like, yeah, sure. But I don't think, I think some people immediately took it as, oh, when he's not in, he will be. Right. More so than like, yeah, based on the guidelines I had, which is you can't indict a sitting president. Legally, that is possible. Yes, that is possible. Yeah. I mean, this, but this is a pretty, so one of the Democratic Congress people said, so it's fair to say the president tried to protect himself by asking staff to falsify records relevant to an ongoing investigation.

And Mueller said, I would say that's generally a summary. Isn't that just isn't that basically so the president obstructed justice? Yes. He tried to say as many times like I'm not going to say impeachment, but I'll use this one phrase of like and then there are other people whose responsibilities it is under the constitution to take action congress when they went through all four whatever it is like articles or objects of obstruction and oh like the criteria the criteria and this happened yeah and this yeah each time so they laid it out like yeah all of them have happened there's been undeniable obstruction which is when the when the gop realized that that was happening they go what was the point of this just to get uh him

to say that we should impeach the president and it's like okay relax but yeah that that's what it's looking like isn't it i like the one guy that went and we went back to your law school and we found all these books and he laughed he laughed at that one too when he's like there is no office of exoneration. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, well,

I'm not going to get embroiled in a legal discussion about this. Like he's, if you're just smart and you take it for what he's saying, he's like saying this does not, this isn't an, because I did not charge him is not an indication that nothing bad, like there was no transgression. Right.

And I think that's where they're like, well, there is no conceptually exoneration doesn't exist legally. So therefore he's not like no one can exonerate him. So that means he's innocent. No obstruction of inclusion. The way it's being treated by Trump and the right wing is completely out of line with what we're saying here. It's that Trump seems to just be acting as though it was a complete exoneration.

Right. The hearing in which he said he was not exonerated or the report was an exoneration, he's treating as if it were an exoneration. Yeah. The truth is a force of nature. As much as we're all like, oh, man, he definitely lost this step and all this other stuff.

His sort of really measured answers are maybe just general slowness, maybe slow roll into senility, and his just demeanor I think helps him a lot from any kind of criticisms that could come from the right. I think obviously on the left a lot of people were frustrated because they're like, just fucking say the thing. Like, just go a step further and be like, I just want to say, first of all, everything I wrote in here is true. Yeah, right. There's nothing false in here. This is a real investigation. So first take that. Like, I think people wanted a moment like that.

And he didn't do it because that's as everyone who is who knows Robert Mueller and spoke to like journalists say he's just an upstanding sort of servant of the Constitution. And he comes off. outstanding sort of servant of the constitution and he comes off yes he may have been boring but he definitely came off as non-partisan because he was just as not disinterested in elaborating on questions from the left as he was from the right and he didn't he didn't come off like he had any kind of agenda either he's just more like i'm just you go ahead and but i know what i'm gonna say and what i won't this is close as like a robot or a computer you could get to to be like, now what do you think? I'm not allowed to think. Right.

I'm sorry. But your data shows this. Yes. But my algorithm has, but my programming has kept me from elaborating. Try a new angle. But yeah, I think the one thing that was just always funny to see is like he, every time I'd be like, just so you know, I'm not talking about the Steele dossier. I'm not going to talk about it. It has nothing to do with me.

That's something else going on inside the Department of Justice. Here's the good news. Yeah. Fucking what a clown. Yeah, there was so. But I guess that shows you, too, how like one dimensional the line of thinking was for the Republicans, which was like, just hit him on the Steele dossier. the line of thinking was for the Republicans, which was like, just hit him on the Steele dossier.

Just hit that Steele dossier over and over, and then this house of cards will come crashing down. And every time there was like a string of questions where he's like, I'm not talking about that. Okay, but what about this thing, Christopher Steele? Okay. As mentioned, we will not be talking. And then it doesn't matter how old you are, how much you stammer, never lost his cool,

never got rattled. Even with the, uh, uh, uh. Oh, where? Page? Huh? Which one of you? Yeah. And he was like pretty unequivocal for most, the most part when he'd be like, I believe what is written in here.

So if it's in there, those are my beliefs. Yeah. But, uh, you know, hearing that he would have loved to interview Trump was it wasn't nice to he's like that would have helped a lot. But I think one thing that Republicans cannot deny, no matter how they want to paint his performance or what Democrats or their intent was, was that not a single one of them was able to disprove anything in that report. to disprove anything in that report. Every question was just around like, oh, well, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are basically Hillary Clinton in a fucking trench coat. Right. Pretending to be them.

And like just shit like that. It was never attacking the actual evidence that was discovered, which is the most damning part. And that's where I think, I mean, if you're not fully a partisan, you might look at that and be like, what are they really getting at here? Right.

I like how he answered that. He's like, I've, you know, 25 years I've been interviewing people. I've never asked their political affiliation. Yeah. It's can they do the job? Right. Well, right. And also, if you were a career prosecutor working in the Department of Justice, if you

were putting a team together and go, well, hold on, who'd you vote for? Right. You'd be like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. Are you only looking for partisans or something? Yeah. Versus like, as he said, no, man, we're fucking professionals. Like, that's just not how this shit works.

Right. But the inanity of Trump being able to say, yeah, I answered all their questions in a timely manner and told the absolute truth. And I think he refuted all of that today. Did he answer all your questions? No. Were there some things that were inaccurate? Yes. And it took a team of people writing it, not doing it in person. And yet Trump will come out and say like, yeah, yeah, I talked to him. The group that still

follows him, the fact that that is not in any way bothersome is insurmountable, I believe, as far as like getting people to be rational in any way yeah yeah this is probably not doing anything to convince any of them but uh yeah it'll i think yeah we'll see what it does when it comes to polling of independent people i mean obviously nothing mitch mcconnell is a fucking troll who will never do anything. But like you would hope that even hearing Robert Mueller say to this day that the that the Russians are still engaged in full on fuckery, that maybe he'll actually entertain this bill that's in the Senate. Right. Protecting the elections. I'm like, what if he's telling you it's a it's a threat.

But again, the end game for them is Trump has to stay in office. Yeah, if we got to cheat our way into this one, we got to fucking do that. Right. And that's what's even more frightening about all of this, too, is like those are the sides where it's like, well, shit, if Trump's out, then this shit's really a wrap. Or who knows? I mean, what the Democrats are doing power. But yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. And there was also the part, I think one of the more kind of open moments was when he

talked about how he didn't subpoena the president because he knew it would take years for that to like wind its way through the court. And he was weighing that versus actually getting answers, which he didn't think he was going to get anyways. But then they use that as an opportunity to be like, well, I mean, obviously that's maybe that's something else. Maybe because he was innocent. Maybe that's why he didn't do it. Yeah. Or maybe there wasn't enough.

Like, why didn't you? I still blame the media mostly for like putting this sped up timeline on him, like publishing his report uh because like it was extremely fast for a special uh council investigation like compared to other ones like they they take a long time to get this many arrests he was working fast but people were like when's this fucking report gonna come out guys like it's been it's been a year already it, well, Ron Contra took like seven years. Anyways. Old Ron Contra. That'd be a cool name.

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And we're back uh facebook just paid five billion dollars for something uh all right that's it man we're gonna find you sure that's a lot of when did you guys start mailing it in? Mailing it in. It's easy, right? Yeah. But they're also in the news. There's a headline. Wait, what was their settlement again? Oh, that was the FTC, right?

Yeah. Yeah. What was it for? They basically got hit with that $5 billion fine for, quote, violating consumers' privacy. Right. Almost 20 times greater than the largest privacy or data security penalty ever imposed worldwide. But 5 billion is a fucking drop in the gigantic bucket.

Billions are, that's a big number. But what isn't, aren't they worth about a million hundred billion or something like, right. That's still a significant amount. Well, I'm just saying the government agencies in this country have a real

low bar when it comes to what is a real penalty. Right. Especially against institutions that have billion dollars in the bank. Banks and shit that they fucking are just like, yeah, sure. I know we're fucking around upwards of hundreds of billions in bad transactions. We're charging

you a billion dollars. Right. Wells Fargo. Good thing your friend is now my boss here in the government. But let's talk about this employee who was interviewed for Wired, who has a background as a CIA officer turned Facebook employee. Yeah. And this woman, Yael Eisentstadt, I think is her name. Eisenstadt, pardon me, Yael Eisenstadt. Yes. Worked for the CIA, was a diplomat in East Africa,

advisor to Vice President Biden, and before that. And then came because they were like, hey, we have, I think, an election meddling problem. Do you want to check it out? And she joined as head of global elections integrity ops. And that was meaning like, hey, you're in the CIA. You get it. You know how this shit works. What can we be doing to safeguard democracy around the world? Which is the CIA's number one job. Number one priority.

The thing they're most famous for, safeguarding democracy. Safeguarding oil profits. With targeted assassinations. assassinations and uh yes and if we have to use jackals we'll do that um but then on day two she realized that the job probably wasn't gonna be all that chill because she was like instantly there like her boss was like yeah we're gonna i think we're changing it up a little bit based on like we need. And we're just going to make you a manager for now. And she's like, I'm from the fuck what? Okay.

So when they asked her, she goes on this interview, she says, quote, once I walked in that door, I was never once empowered to do the work I was hired to do. And in fact, more than not being empowered, I was purposefully sidelined. It's Facebook. Everyone talks about it being a flat organization. Everybody talks about how anybody can go talk to anybody. It was never that way for me. My boss intentionally never let me participate in any of the meetings that were specifically

about the job I was hired to do. So you're like, huh, that's interesting. Well, what else did they do? Like what kind of stuff they do in foreign interference? Her first part was just sort of like, they just kind of did the bare minimum, which isn't much. But she says the foreign interference part, this might sound odd,

but should be the easiest part to fix. Of course, people can always game it, but there are basic tools you can put in place. There were advertisers who paid in rubles. Those are things that shouldn't have been that hard to figure out. That was like her day one. And now it's like, you accept ruble?

Okay, so why don't we do that? And I think maybe that's when they were, but when she was asked like, do you think you were just a publicity stunt? She didn't think she was, but I think, or she didn't believe she was. But as her work became clearer, I think that's when she realized

that any suggestion she made was going to butt up against what the business model is of all of these social media platforms. And she's very clear. It's not just about Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube, whatever. This is just how all social media works. And I think this is what's very interesting and something that we deeply need to consider. Quote, the business model is to keep you engaged.

It's not even a question of whether advertising is bad or good. It's a question of what do they have to do to keep you engaged long enough to get those ads in front of your eyeballs. Their tools are doing what they can to keep us engaged, which is taking us down more and more extreme rabbit holes, which is polarizing us more and more because the salacious talking points and salacious clickbaity headlines are what keep people's eyeballs on their screens. And the more and more you can keep us outraged, keep us angry, keep us polarized, it just makes it much easier for Russia to come in and exploit that. For me, the biggest issue is to fix a business model that intentionally feeds on the worst part of who we are as humans. And yes, people can say, isn't it just human beings? Is it Facebook or Google or Twitter

or YouTube's fault that people love this stuff? It's not their fault, but they're absolutely manipulating it and exacerbating it and getting into our psychology in order to keep us on their screen. So I can't buy the, isn't it just human nature argument? Right. They're engineering things to manipulate human nature. And now, yeah, to the point where it's like, well, fuck, I guess if we keep turning, adding spice to the recipe, it will just – it's already starting to burn. But if it's like, no, man, I guess we need spicier shit to get people fucking going to keep – so I can serve you an ad for Shambong or whatever the fuck it is. But I think that's really – yeah, I think that's part of the business model that I think legislators also have to look at of like, Oh, you're purely guided by, I need advertisers to buy ads.

The only way I can make our, our platform, uh, attractive to advertisers by saying I can keep idiots staring at this fucking thing for X hours at a time. Yeah. There's this book good to great. That's like this guy did a study on companies that had sustained success.

And one of the main things he says they all have in common is called the Hedgehog Principle, which is they know one thing. They just always have the same sort of core value at the heart of everything they do so like with I forget what the like Gillette was one of the companies and like it was like some manner of like shaving like foe staying focused on being the best in the world at like providing like shaving things so with Facebook like it seems like the entire like DNA of the country of the company is built on you know is built counter to actually like protecting people's privacy and not manipulating them and not making it easy for them to be manipulated right so it doesn't like you can't just put a single person in there and change

like the molecular structure of the company like that's just not an organism they everything about it is built to be a successful company that makes money and the way they do that is the opposite of what we're asking them to do so it's not going to come from within like they would either need to be dismantled or you would need to put like a government agency inside the company that like regulates them and is like sitting in on their meetings or something it would have to be like totally unprecedented yeah and the funny thing like the the one thing that she was saying like based on her working there and understanding like seeing like oh their whole thing is to know what the fuck you want to

see and just keep accelerating your need to keep looking and she's that's where she was like yeah i'm in this unique position where i've worked at the cia and i can tell you facebook knows fucking way more about you than even the cia does so that's troubling yeah because the cia knows a lot about me yeah yeah they do they've been following me for years. They actually wind up on their screens, man. Oh, he used to run this really weird Tumblr. Oh, that'll get them? Yeah, real weird. Yeah. A lot of wacky stuff on there.

We all saw the, I mean, that's not to say everyone did, but the people that like, even the Lego movie, all these things that are about dystopian sort of futures and everyone went, okay, just kind of keep a heads up. There were people that were late adopters to phones and then smartphones, people that were late joining Facebook or any of those social media platforms to be like, God damn it, all my friends are gone.

I'm either going to just live out here in the woods rubbing sticks together and never see anyone. I got to kind of join the hive. And it became like inescapable for us. So it felt like, no, no, no, we'll all kind of monitor each other. Like, hey, keep an eye out. Big brother, right? We all read that.

Right. And now it's just so, we're so immersed in it, so oppressive that we're like. Now I'm little brother. Right. You know? And it just seems absolutely impossible. Like you're talking about, like we need someone to come and regulate it. That'll never happen.

Right. We have no power to do that to in any way hold them accountable when there are hundreds of billions of dollars. And if you remember when Zuckerberg went up to testify in front of Congress, these motherfuckers don't know what the fuck this is. Those congressmen were like, my granddaughter

got a game that said I was racist. Well, you are Steve King. But like, even then we don't even have what do you want me to do but like the even then we don't even have the legislators that are equipped with the idea the like conceptually what this is and what the potential is of this kind of thing yeah and that's where we're like oh man and then she in the this cia uh former cia person former facebook employee even pointed to that she's like yeah i don't even know if congress is fucking equipped even under like conceptually get down to what this is she was like we we need a targeted assassination to take care

of this problem she's like yeah calling a jackal if we can't smear zuckerberg with compromat then maybe he shouldn't fly private too much the thing about uh do you have friends who have to this day to this day uh not you who are not on facebook uh i have i have one friend who has avoided my space every fucking social media like the whole oh okay he's a ghost huh he is not fucking available on this shit and i commend him because now i'm it wasn't even like him being like oh i don't know he was just sort of like what i gotta do sign up i don't even know i get a fucking picture on my cam nah i'm good right and then like now i'm like this guy's got it all figured out yeah but it's funny like i feel like there are there are kinds of people who are so suspicious that never engaged in it and then people like my my friend

who was just too lazy and didn't care enough about technology to be interested in it yeah until he was trying to use tinder and he's like you need a facebook account and he's like fuck it i'm just gonna use ok cupid then right i don't need it nice good for him yeah i like his style no i mean i barely fuck with facebook but i do fuck with other social media platforms it does seem like young people make fun of people who have Facebook, which is at least a little bit uplifting. Yeah. But they're going to age into a category where they go, I want to see everyone's baby photos.

They're going to merge into it where, because you see all that stuff, like Snapchat is such a great thing for the temporary nature of existence. Yeah. Like they're living a life kind of knowing the previous generation was like, that was your great grandmother's table. So you own that now and you have to keep it forever. And you're like, it means nothing to me. It takes up a lot of space.

But it's been in the family. And the younger people are like, oh, I had this photo. It was the greatest day of my life. It disappeared. I'll never see it again. Such is life. What's next? What's the next thing?

I'm in the present. So potentially that could be, I mean, of course, there's still ways to data mine all of your stuff and sell your information with that. But it's a little less like every time people sit down and type anything on Facebook, they're saying, here's where I am. Here's what I like. Here's how you can market to me. And that's what I think.

Now you know that forever. That's what I think. Yeah. This never goes away. And this is an ephemeral. Well, that's what I've been saying. Snapchat is an entire philosophy. It's not just a platform. Yeah, man. goes away. And this is an ephemeral. Well, that's what I've been saying. Snapchat is an entire philosophy. It's not just a platform.

Yeah, man. It's all about the ephemeral, man. Yeah, it was interesting. I heard an interview with Janine Garofalo where she still has the mindset of somebody in the late 90s who's like, I don't really fuck with computers, but like, you know, for like good, like reasons that at the time might've seemed paranoid, but now, but like, it was just wild because I was like, oh yeah, I haven't heard somebody like this since I was like 10 years old.

Like people just like stopped having this concern. Everyone was just like, yeah, we joined. Like everything's good now. But she was like, yeah, I don't really do computers and like, I don't put anything on the internet. And I was like, what a loser. But now I'm like two years in retrospect, I'm like, oh, I'm going to get those likes. For years, I didn't have any of the stuff. And I sent out a mailing list through my website starting in like maybe 2007 or 8 something like that and then it finally like avalanche where i just i couldn't reach out and get in touch with people yeah they were only

available through the networks i was like damn he used to be able to like search them or go to their website or something like you might even have someone's actual phone number written down and then so i'm doing a bunch of stand-up shows coming up and i sent out the mailing list for the first time in like two years. It felt fantastic. It was just this feeling of like, that's how I'd love to communicate. Here's what I'm up to once a year or so. If you want to email me back, great.

But I don't feel like it's healthy for humans to have to constantly be like, I'm not dead. Here's the thing. I'm still alive. I feel happy. That is, I do feel like there are people who post a lot, a lot on social media. I do feel like that comes from an existential place of I'm not dead every time they post. Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah, I exist and I matter and sent.

And this is the version of me that you will accept. Yes. If I look at someone's thing and they have like 50,000 tweets, even if I like them, I will never follow. You need something that I can't give you. Right. It's terrifying to me.

Yeah. This is coming from a place of deep unnerving need. Just screaming to the void, man. Yeah. Real quickly, there's a story I read recently that I was pretty shocked by that car accidents are way deadlier for women than men. And the reason for that is because cars and their safety features are designed around the body size of men.

Like crash test dummies are usually man size just like chads and into yeah exactly just chads with like it's deadlier for people who don't have huge square jaws yeah uh they started making women crash test dummies in like the early 2000s uh but the crash test dummies are five feet tall and 110 pounds, which the average woman in America is five foot three and I think 170 pounds. Oh, so nothing works. Right. So it's not they're just like not even trying. It seems like. And yeah, that sucks because there's a lot of women out there, I hear.

You guys are sitting near someone who was nearly a billionaire, if I had just focused. When I was like eight, the seatbelt hits you in the cheek. And in vehicles back then, it was just that bolt. There was no convenient like pull it out, slide this. Right, right. But I would always say that. I'd either have to tuck it under my arm or put it. So I just had a lap band and the rest would go behind me. Oh, right. But I would always say that. I'd either have to tuck it under my arm or put it – so I just had a lap band and the

rest would go behind me. Oh, interesting. The diagonal would go behind me. And then my dad would always give me grief. I'm like, why don't you just wear it normally? I'm like, it's head and my cheek. I can't just slide this part down. Right.

Why isn't it like adjustable? So if I just focused that at eight, it would have been great. But I understand the plight. Your dad actually has that patent, right? And he won't share it. That's why I'm not a billionaire. He's always in his helicopter. Targeted assassination, bro.

Oh yeah, he's undoubtedly going to be. If he flies in a helicopter, I'm telling you, man. Easy to make it look like an accident. Is that what happened to the coal guy, you think? Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh yeah. Oh boy. Oh yeah. Holy shit. Oh my yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, boy.

Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Oh, my God. But yeah, seatbelts suck. Even though they are adjustable now. And then if you've got boobs, I mean, it's just uncomfortable. Yeah, I mean, they just don't take into account the dimensions, where fat distribution, any of that stuff of women. The odds of

serious injury or death for female car crash victims is 73% higher than for males. And that's all born out of the fact that all those safety tests are sort of built around this biased test where it's just hulking dummies. I don't know if it's all built

on that, but that seems crazy to me. 73% is a hot... Who did this report? Is this real? CityLab. Is this in the U.S.? Are these based off U.S. car? Man, I don't know. Give us your data here, man. 73%. Prove your point, man. I take

your question. That's how I'll deal with anything that I don't know the answer to. I take your question. David, it's been a pleasure having you here on The Daily Zeitgeist once again. Where can people find you, follow you? Zeitgeist, guys. Well, I'll be burning down my social media account soon. They're useless anyway.

But DavidHuntsberger.com has a bunch of tour dates. I'm going to be starting tomorrow, July 25th in Houston, then the weekend in Austin, Texas at the Velveeta Room, then Denver, Watertown, South Dakota, Boise, Idaho, Sacramento, Portland, San Francisco, and then in Minneapolis. So if you live in any of those cities, I'd love to see you. And I have the special I made like five years ago. It just sort of disappeared into the abyss and randomly it became available on amazon prime so if you have that you can stream it for free get and i know people listening are probably

like i'm not a part of the grid good for you but if you know someone that is you can listen to it there and it was it's different if nothing else it was like we combined a bunch of artists and animators and it's got a lot of that's right funky weird visuals with it so it's, if nothing else. It was like we combined a bunch of artists and animators and got a lot of funky, weird visuals with it. So it's fun, if nothing else. You can just put it on silent and do drugs and enjoy yourself. Yes. Sick. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

I feel bad reading this tweet because it's a bit self-aggrandizing, I think is the term people use. And that's the only kind of aggrandizing people ever reference. But it's, but I mean, it was just referencing the special and we put a ton of work into it. And, you know, like when you make stuff that you have to, there's always this, well, we did it just to make it, just to enjoy it. But it is nice when people actually enjoy it.

And I feel bad for not sharing a tweet that's just red hot and really captures the moment and elevate someone's social media profile into the new category. But this is from at Pine Dagger. And it says, man, I don't have the words to describe how much One-Headed Beast hit home with me. Thank you for having the words and animations to give me a mushroom trip without having to take anything. And that felt nice. That is kind of what you're setting out for. Yeah.

So when something you make impacts or affects someone that way, it felt nice. That is kind of what you're setting out for. Yeah. So when something you make impacts or affects someone that way, it feels nice. So again, very self-aggrandizing, but I appreciate it. Hashtag free shroom trip. Yeah, yeah.

Go take those shrooms for free. Yeah. With your eyes. With your eyes. Miles where can people find you? Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. Is there a tweet you've been reading?

Yes, there is. First one? Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Is there a tweet you've been reading? Yes, there is. First one is from Dan Rather. At Dan Rather. Oh, yeah, I saw this. Devin Nunes spins more fairy tales than Hans Christian Andersen. Really? Yes. Okay, Mr. Fuego tweeter.

And then another one, Natalie Walker at NWalks. When I text my boyfriend a pic and don't get enough praise, it goes to Insta, which is not millennial. That is me in any era. If I sat for a daguerreotype to send my soldier Bo and his response letter lacked commensurate acclaim, I would ask for it back and post it in the town square. True that. True that.

Kyle Plant emoji tweeted, first day at domino's manager oh and one more thing don't fuck the pizzas me assistant manager seriously don't fuck them cook don't fuck the pizzas dude me i'm not customer that guy's not gonna fuck my my pizza, is he? Manager, not if he wants to keep his job, he won't. Recliner tweeted, pee after storming Area 51 or you'll get a UFO. And George Wallace tweeted, yo mama's so stupid she thinks an innocent man would falsify records, try to fire investigators, dangle pardons, and tamper with witnesses while it rains indictments on everyone around his guilty ass. And Laurie Kilmartin tweeted,

my mama literally is this stupid. Which I think speaks for a lot of people in America. People are setting her up. You can find me on Twitter at JackOmScoreO'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at TheDailyZeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, the tweets we just highlighted, as well as the song we ride out on. This is from gabriel garzon montano i've just just got hip to this artist uh you know he's a fellow biracial immigrant kid making music out of uh brook lawn vietnam and yeah it's got a it's it's very like well-rounded i don't know there's something about it you can just feel that this person's understanding of music is very good. And this song is called Golden Wings. Brooklyn, Vietnam?

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