The Daily Zeitgeist - I Wanna Trend Me Da 10/23: NBA, Fentanyl, SNAP Benefits, White House East Wing, Buddy Kennedy
Episode Date: October 23, 2025In this edition of I Wanna Trend Me Da, Jack and Miles discuss some NBA news, Terry Rozier and others getting arrested in a gambling probe, Fentanyl: a weapon of mass destruction?, the millions ...on SNAP benefits possibly losing their benefits, Buddy Kennedy winning the World Series, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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That one courtesy of vanadium silver on the Discord.
in reference to the irish catchphrase yeah if you don't know just start from episode one of
this show go at least there's so much lore however many thousands of episodes are start there
we can't keep catching everyone up i feel like i've seen people in the discord be like i got behind
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Jack O'Brien, for those who are not going about it that way and are just fighting us for the
first time. And that over there is my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, God. I mean, please, just a little
bit about myself. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley. I love Arsenal Football Club. I love
90-day fiancé. I love the Lakers. I love food, water, oxygen. Sleep food? Yeah, I'm kind of.
That's crazy. I'm in my food era. I'm in my food era. I'm in my food era.
What can I say?
I'm a food queen.
All right.
Well, speaking of the food era,
somebody was eating last night,
a Frenchman by the name of Victor Wenbing.
A big 24 hours for the NBA in both directions.
Every direction, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we're not a sports podcast,
but that we do cover stories that break through and tests.
I feel like this is like it tested the back.
of the, like, reality.
What do you mean?
The Wemby game?
The Wemby game was just like, the game of basketball has been perfect.
We can all go home now.
Yeah, right, right.
It's like, this is actually what you need to look like to compete in this new era of what basketball,
the future of basketball that Victor Wemianama has brought on us.
For people who don't know who Victor Wemian, he's a 7 for basketball player from France who
21 years old.
21 years old moves like a guard.
um handles like a guard shoots like a guard a guard being the person you know the smaller guys
who play outside and is seven foot four and blocks shots like a seven foot four person like one of
the best shot blockers in the history of the league he got drafted first two years ago has had
these flashes of like oh man this could be really crazy if he like ever just like puts it
together and so the NBA had their season openers over the past 48 hours and he uh
has put it all together
it's like
it was bizarre
in how good he was
it's
this was like the thing
I remember when he first
the excitement
when he played in France
was like this
this giant freak
to shoot the three
and dribble the ball
and then everyone was like
we'll see what happens
we'll see what happens
he was clearly like
he's been taking
these those first two seasons
to build his skill set
to build his understanding
of his own body
and how to develop it
and now we're seeing him
like play at a
40 points he scored
40 points
Rebounds
70 something true shooting percentage
Kemp getting fouled and like
making the bucket
So like any any questions about like he's not strong enough
Bro he was shooting over AD
Like AD was Mugsy Boggs
AD who was like traditionally one of the best defenders
In the NBA
Anthony Davis
7 footer shot blocking specialist
And it just looked like me
playing on my
you know
eight foot rim
what just you know
against imaginary defender
you know what I mean
it's just like people weren't there
my he just said he's so big
he's like he's shooting over the top
at that point you just pray he misses
that's right
shooting over the top
Jason Gallagher on Twitter
tweeted every time I watch Wemby play
and it's a screen cap from friendship
where Tim Robinson says
what the fuck kind of guy
is that?
I think that sums
it up. It's just like your brain is like
what is the fuck is happening.
This is such a great time for sports.
You have Shohei at the Dodgers. You have
Wendy on the Spurs. We're like these
you shouldn't have all of these
skill sets simultaneously, but
they do. For the second time
in one week, we're seeing
the death of
American exceptionalism
and just like the globalization
of sports coming home.
to roost, I get, like showing us how we were basically witnessing up to this point in history,
like watching, you know, the NBA or Major League Baseball and being like, these are the world
champions. No, we were witnessing a regional sports league prior to this point. And now that
everyone on every continent can hoop or like play baseball or like has that opportunity,
we can take the ceiling off our expectations. And as,
we do, like watching
what they're able to do
will look like an optical illusion.
It's like my brain
cannot make sense of it. It's very
very strange.
Every year that idea of like the
American All-Stars versus World All-Stars
in an All-Star game, it gets to the
point where like, do the Americans get the shit
kicked out of them pretty soon? That was a
good idea for like the
past three years and I think
from this point forward it's going to be
less and less of a good idea. It's going to be bad for
it's going to be bad for the brand
I don't know though
I guess Joel Embed is no longer
in that conversation so they lost one
because he looked
freaky out there
my Philadelphia 76ers did
pull off a come from behind victory
behind the play of a rookie
who scored the most points in his
NBA debut game
Vijay Edgecombe put up
34 in his first game in the NBA
and look like D-Wade out there
And for those of you who don't like sports, this is now a thing you can say when someone
is talking sports, but I go, man, Wembe, huh?
Just say that.
And they're going to be like, oh, yeah, yeah, exactly.
You're going to get a raise or preferential treatment.
But here, we give you these tidbits.
That globalization of sports thing, that's a good take.
That's a solid take that both take that to a dinner party.
Like young people and I feel like old people will agree with.
Oh, yeah.
The old heads will be like, nah, he sucks compared to.
You ever see George Miken, but George Gervin?
Anyways, also, somebody pointed out that you could see a tweet this morning that said the NBA is in trouble and not know whether it was referring to the ascendancy of Victor Wembe Yamma or the fact that the FBI did, like, they treated it like it was a, they were taking down a crime syndicate.
they arrested like I think over
30 people in one morning
yeah like a dawn raid at dawn
to arrest one NBA coach
an NBA player
who was in his hotel
like at a you know
his team had an away game in Orlando
so they arrested him at his hotel
Terry Rosier
and
it's an investigation
into gambling
Terry Rosier
the player was supposedly
you know
part of some bets, giving inside information on his own performance,
basically telling people like,
hey,
I'm going to exit the game in the second quarter.
I plan to get injured at that point.
So you can like,
you know,
bet the under on my points or what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so, um,
not great.
I'd prefer he was betting on himself to be like,
hey,
just so you know,
I'm about to go off tonight.
So,
but who does?
You know,
it's easier to be.
be like, I'm a suck shit, and I'm going to make money off this bed.
That's right.
It requires a little more skill to go off and then back yourself like that.
And then two NBA coaches, one NBA head coach,
Chauncey Billups, Mr. Bigshot.
He, apparently, so this is why it's a little weird that they did this,
like it was part of one criminal operation.
He's involved in a separate allegation that says he was part of a rig.
poker game that has
like mob connections
and look
gambling on cards in the NBA
nobody's
nobody's surprised about that
that's something that is long
you know team playing
disagreements over card games
have long been like a thing that everyone's like
oh you want to know why
you want to know why he stopped playing or like they had to
trade him away
he he owed the best player
like a hundred thousand dollars and wouldn't pay him
and they kept fighting on the team playing.
Anyways, allegedly,
Chaunzee Billups and Damon Jones were involved
in a illegal card game that...
So I was like, okay, like that's...
I saw the headline.
I was like, okay.
I saw the headline.
What did they do?
All right, so here are some of the things
that were allegedly involved in this card game.
X-ray machines built into tables
to read face-down cards.
Love it.
Contact lenses.
slash glasses that red pre-marked cards.
Oh,
secret cameras in card trays,
like you're watching the World Series of poker.
You know what I mean?
Give them an award.
I know.
That's dedication.
That kind of hardware and infrastructure.
Okay.
That is what,
like,
if you gave me an unlimited budget
and we're like,
how can you make money?
As a 12-year-old,
like that's what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
This is how I would do it.
Let's do an Austin Powers.
Like that,
by the way,
just need an x-ray machine.
The table needs to be exhumed.
I've had to evoke Austin Powers in two days.
Yesterday we found out that Michelle Yao's first husband.
Oh, Michelle Yo, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Michelle Yo's first husband was somebody named Dixon Poon.
Yeah, yeah, and we're like that.
A luxury goods magnate.
And I was like, that name only makes sense in the Austin Pound.
Like, not even in the James Bond universe.
That's an awesome power.
No, that's a first draft Austin Powers character.
Exactly.
Dix in Poon.
here's the thing with this one
I'm I'm like oh shit
they got what did Chauncey Billups do
and Rozier do and then I'm like
hold on they're like they were involved
in an illegal card game I'm like
hello at FBI
are you looking for like real crimes
to go after because you're not doing it
anywhere else but I'm
let me just see what's
black men you've arrested
oh interesting for things
and I'm not saying that
whatever is a mob connected card game
sure there's, I'm sure there's illegality there. But like, are we for real right now with what's
happening here and what the FBI is not looking into, not doing the open corruption everywhere
else? This feels like, it just stinks of just like a, uh, PR move. My God, I didn't even think
about that. That's crazy. They are all black men being targeted in a sweep for nothing aimed at
getting, garnering headlines. I also have to think, all right, one of these like Trump officials
got taken in this card game.
Like, you know,
you know,
Cash Patel was like,
he's like,
you know what?
The cards are too good.
Yeah.
Chouncy Billups kept laughing at me when I was,
he said I didn't know how to smoke a cigar right.
Whatever it is,
who fucking knows.
But I mean,
like,
again,
what,
what are we doing?
What are we doing?
There's a,
there is a clip of,
like,
one of the ESPN shows this morning where they're like,
talking about this story.
The guy's like,
and the screen cap,
or they're talking about
the betting being out of control.
Yeah,
the betting being out of control.
And it's at the bottom,
there's scrolling by a ESPN bet.
It's like showing the lines and shit.
And I mean,
the guy,
to his credit,
is like,
you know,
saying like,
and I know there's probably some questions
from you guys
because we're,
you know,
a place that talks a lot about gambling
and acknowledges,
you know,
the fun of legal gambling.
And then,
the ESPN bet thing just like blinks out and it like they turned it off as he as he acknowledged
it maybe a few seconds too late yeah but anyways yeah it is you know so many other things the gambling
industry and now i mean you could view it as like this being legal gambling being like all right
now we're getting the illegal shit off the off the streets so that more people just
This is such a distraction from everything.
Yeah, it's bad.
All right.
Hey, speaking of distraction, Miles.
Yeah.
You hear about this fentanyl stuff?
Yeah, man.
Thank God they're getting that stuff out of the ocean.
I can't go in the ocean.
Dude.
There's fenty in the ocean, guys.
I put my feet in the ocean.
I started feigning like one of those cops in 2020.
Oh, man.
I put my feet in the ocean.
They went numb and then fell off because of all the fentanyl in the water.
So, I mean, I had just done fentanyl, but I think it was the ocean.
I think it was the ocean. I think it was a saltwater that did me in.
But again, you know, with all the illegal war crimes going on in the oceans where the United States is just unilaterally killing innocent people with just allegations, no proof.
Allegations of things that aren't like capital offenses that would in any, like even if they were able to prove the thing that they claim.
the people are guilty of,
it would still be a war crime
to kill those people. Well, what if I said the
drugs were really bad
on that boat? Like what?
Like, cocaine?
Okay, what if it was
fentanyl? What if I said fentanyl was a weapon of mass
destruction? Then is it okay to blow up the boats?
I think that's... I think that's... Because, yeah,
I saw this headline that it's saying they're
trying to classify fentanyl as a
WMD. Are they arguing that, like, it's
going to be used as such? Or is it
it like metaphorically like could do the same damage well this is okay so tom homin the drunken alley cat
who is the pretend borders are or sadly the actual borders are he was at this like future of defense
summit axios is future of defense summit and said that this reclassification would quote at least be a
discussion uh he basically said um there was a security briefing that like discussed classifying but
the fentanyl is potentially a weapon of mass destruction.
He said, quote, when I left that briefing, it was my understanding that they would push
that recommendation up to the secretary, but I've been out of it ever since.
Did he touch fentanyl?
Why has he been out of it ever since?
Oh, he meant like out of the loop.
Maybe, who knows?
I mean, looking at him, he might have actually just been like, and I touched a pile of fenty
and I fucking went down.
He touched something that had fentanyl written on it.
And a lot of people don't know, but that's equally dangerous.
That's enough.
That's enough.
But again, Lauren Bobert did introduce Fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction act earlier this year.
And that would require this whole other, you know, the DHS is countering weapons of mass destruction office to do that classification.
But just the fact that it's swirling around rhetorically.
Yeah.
I'm like, this is, I feel like that's the only way because the entire world is like you are killed.
These are acts of war you're committing as the United States.
And I think now they're like, fuck, man.
Then I guess we've got to say, what's our favorite way to kill a bunch of innocent brown people?
Say they got weapons of mass destruction.
And they really hate testing their cocaine.
It turns out, Lauren Boberton, you know, Republicans, they're like, we shouldn't have to do this.
It's just get the kids, guys, they have those out there for people.
The weapons of, like using, it's wild that they're using the phrase weapons of mass destruction that they use.
that they used to
famously justify a
war that turns out in retrospect
was unjustifiable.
And that the weapons of mass destruction
didn't exist.
You'd think they'd try and do a rebrand,
but they're just using a different term.
Because WMD is so like,
immediately anyone who remembers that
terrible era of American history,
you immediately do jerk off hand motion.
You're like, all right,
weapons about it.
Yeah, go ahead.
Uh-huh. What is it?
They got the yellow cake.
They got that yellow cake.
Sure, sure, sure.
But, yeah, this is, again, I think they're just, they're, they have to do anything to try and justify what's happening because it's clearly not enough.
I mean, at this point, they're going to say, like, fucking, you know, Calvin and Hobbs books are going to be weapons of mass destruction or some shit for giving kids imagination.
I mean, think about the ideas that it's infecting your children with.
Yeah.
Okay.
That stuff he ain't alive.
that's a that's a stuffed that's just a stuffed animal tiger that's right kids guys kids all whacked out
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government shutdown coming our way specifically no no more snap benefits for hungry and starving
americans yeah this is 25 states uh have began telling participants of the snap program
that they won't be receiving assistance checks in come November.
So that's like states like Alabama, Arkansas, Hawaii, Indiana, California, Mississippi,
Indiana, New Jersey, many like, like fucking half the country.
And, you know, I think this should be a bigger story because 42 million people,
according to like one of the last sort of, you know, the statistics that they,
they were keeping for the SNAP program on 42 million people are going hungry
fucking intentionally.
Right.
This isn't because they don't want those Epstein files out.
Yeah, they don't want that.
They don't, whatever, for every reason, for Russell Vought to continue to gut the federal
government and these kinds of government agencies, this is happening intentionally.
42 million people will lose their assistance to get food intentionally.
And America's never been good about feeding the hungry in the first place.
So it's not like this is one of many, you know, fallbacks that these.
No, not at all. And I'm sure Fox viewers, when they, because a lot of the times people, like, so much public assistance for MAGA people is basically sort of painted as this thing is like, well, it's only black and brown people and non-white. It's like, you know, the poor people, wink, wink, wink, not acknowledging that everyone needs assistance in this country. For all the Fox viewers who are probably rejoicing that it could be just people of color that were suffered, nearly 40% of SNAP benefits are white. So, you know, the,
That's going to touch everyone's fucking community.
You've seen Governor Polis and Colorado's been calling on like food banks or people
to just begin donating money to food banks to make up for this gap in coverage.
You've heard from just individual business owners saying like they're going to try and
offer free meals to people that lost their snap benefits.
Like it's falling on individuals to help each other here.
But again, this is the first time a president of the United States has intentionally stopped
funding this program.
Yeah. And I think that...
He could continue funding it, right?
Even if the government stays shut down?
They can do two... I mean, and the big, beautiful bill, this was always going to be a
thing that happened. So, but this is a thing also that Democrats are trying to fight back
on and be like, these other things people need, like snap benefits, these ObamaCare
subsidies, these are all things that are needed. Because the one version is the Republicans
completely own this and be like, yeah, I mean, that was in the bill we passed. And they
could nuke the filibuster.
and get the continuing resolution through the Senate
and open the government back up again.
But they are in this weird position
where they don't want to own the absolute horrors
that they're going to inflict on people
from the big beautiful bill
and try and do this weird song and dance
that it's like, no king's rallies,
the Democrats, it's because this other thing.
No, it's them.
And they're now at the point where they don't want to own it so publicly,
so now millions of people are going to suffer.
I just think it's a big,
a big story that affects people in the most direct way, which is their ability to eat food.
And I think that's why, like, I sort of put this other story right after it because there's
like this, there's so much outrage over the East Wing, the East Wing of the White House is being
demolished. And I get that. I get the fucking visuals of seeing just a good literal metaphor.
That's what they should be like. I get that. He's great at creating visual metaphors for what he's
doing to the country. It's gaudy. Yes, it's a vector for even more corruption. Yes, that's
fucking terrible. It's an insult to the tradition of the presidency. Sure, but this
entire fucking, these administrations that he's been in have been an insult
to every, just fucking all of us. Yeah. But like, we are killing
people in boats for nothing. Trump is taking away benefits
from people that need support. ICE is just rounding whoever
the fuck up with no, with no explanation. Epstein
files, shut down. There are so many things.
things, this is clearly an effective distraction because it's obviously triggered the outrage of
the pundit class in and around D.C. But like focus on the things that we as everyday people are
facing. I don't want to read another opinion piece about someone reminiscing about how magical
the East Wing is and its history. I get that. Like I totally understand that. But like the stakes
are just so fucking high right now. I, it's just I don't understand obsessing over this ballroom.
thing. And again, it's an omni crisis. Everything's fucking on fire. But I think 42 million people
that's including children, the elderly, and people with disabilities, not getting food assistance
is much bigger than private property being destroyed. But again, these are the reflexes of the
United States. We see property be destroyed. And like, oh, my God. He did that he made the ultimate
crime. He committed the ultimate crime in the U.S. property demolition. He hurt private
property. Well, it wasn't really private, so it's all right. It's government property.
We hate the government funded. So it's not taxpayer money and every other fucking excuse
they want to come out with. But like I found this interesting. This was in just like just in the
news, right, people talking about like, oh God, what's happening? Like here's a DC update.
Quote, DC is obsessed with this ballroom. The story makes the front pages of the Times and
the post today. The number of cable news minutes devoted to this topic have been unimaginably
high. At every DC drinks party, conversation turns to demolition.
it's going to dominate more of the discourse through the day.
And I've seen people on Blue Sky and Twitter,
like journalists be like,
this might be the thing that's really going to get people
really, you know, to turn on Trump.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Yeah.
The fucking building got torn.
You think that's the fucking thing?
Like, everyone is so unsurious, man.
But anyway, and then, like,
there are other points like,
the polling's really bad on this one.
Really bad.
Like, who gives a shit?
There are dozens of other issues
that are actually a threat to our safety will be.
Pulling's bad on
everything he's doing.
The pulling's bad everywhere.
But then trying to act like it's...
Yeah, the pulling's bad on Gaza, but they don't mention that.
But on this one, they're like,
what do the people think?
Ooh, he's really stepped in it this time.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, like, in a way, this is...
It's because of their total lack of awareness
over how people are surviving in this country
that it allows things like Zoran's candidacy
to come out of nowhere
and completely blindside the elite.
It's like, what the fuck?
They're really on this shit?
Yeah.
Absolutely fucking filth.
I'm sure you guys, we'll talk about it.
Yeah, we'll talk about tomorrow.
Yeah.
Um, shit.
Just racist fucking slop.
Anyway.
Yeah, I slop.
People's faces changing from one scene to the next.
I mean, I think it is, it, I don't know.
Part of me sees, there is some optimism in knowing that the people
that are the architects of everyone's suffering have no idea what the
stakes are for the people that they are oppressing.
So when time comes for people to take up for themselves, they're completely going to be
not understand what to do. I mean, obviously they'll probably, I mean, we're seeing them
gear up with more militarized police. That's one probable response. But like this like, oh my
God, at every D.C. drinks party. Okay, you're talking about literally maybe 3,000 people in the
country. Right. Who give a shit about this. That's like, and, and I get everyone, I mean,
I have family and D.C. They're very comfortable saying it's just an,
eyesore because they're you know nimbies so they're just oh it's just an eyesore that's actually
why we can't have that public housing just fucking weird man like you're just we're talking about
millions of people not getting food assistance but then it's like the ball and again i understand
the corruption that's really the thing they just pivot to that just talk about how nakedly corrupt
this administration is also it's just so thoroughly and now like visually evident
that I don't mind that he's like creating a live action political cartoon of what he's actually
doing to the country like as a favor for the brains the eyes and brains of people but it does seem
like not the thing to focus on at this moment maybe no no I think there are other things that would
like an example right 42 million people losing their snap benefit
Yeah.
Those people, you could probably get millions of people to be like, huh?
On that story, ask those 42 million people if they give a fuck about a rose garden.
But Miles, go to the drinks party and ask them if they give a fuck about 42 million people starving.
Exactly.
They're going to be like, and you know what they say?
Oh, my God, it's so terrible.
It's so terrible.
Have you tried these hors d'oeuvres?
No, they're a little.
Speaking of terrible.
Cruditate, I can't believe they're serving crudete here.
Is it 1990?
I mean, obviously.
Oh, and then the ballroom.
Oh, the ballroom.
Get fucking real.
All right.
We do want to just say congratulations to Buddy Kennedy on winning the World Series.
That World Series doesn't start until this Friday, but this dude has already won.
Buddy Kennedy will receive a championship ring, no matter who wins because he played for both of these teams.
Yeah, unless everybody gets raptured.
he played for both of these teams this season
and there is a rule in Major League Baseball
that if you played a single inning
at the Major League level for a team
and they win the World Series,
you get King Ralph rules.
You're like,
they need to feature this motherfucker heavily
in the championship parade wherever it is.
Oh, that'd be so funny.
Oh, my God.
What a lucky guy.
The guy was just like flapping around
like a bapkin going from team to team played for their blue jays played for the dodgers and i i just
like how he posted the world series like logo like with both teams and he just said go team because either
way you're winning man what a fucking celebrating lucky motherfucker all right well those are some of the
things that are trending on this thursday october 23rd you're back tomorrow morning with a whole
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