The Daily Zeitgeist - Ilhan Omar Was Right, ANOTHER Candidate? 11.15.19

Episode Date: November 15, 2019

In episode 517, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Zahra Noorbakhsh to discuss her Funny is Funny research project, Fox's coverage of the impeachment, how female candidates are attacked more than male candidates, Stephen Miller being a clear white nationalist, Deval Patrick entering the 2020 presidential race, Rudy Giuliani's podcast, and more!FOOTNOTES: Funny Is Funny: Development Models For Diverse Voices In Stand-Up Comedy fox's graphic for bill taylor vs. msnbc's graphic it should go without saying that fox's graphics for schiff -- yes, they couldn't fit it all on one -- are just absurd + something any "news" organization should (and would) be absolutely ashamed of Female 2020 candidates attacked online more than men: analysis Before Joining White House, Stephen Miller Pushed White Nationalist Theories The GOP attacked Ilhan Omar for calling Stephen Miller a ‘white nationalist.’ She says his leaked emails prove her right. Van Jones resigns amid controversy Deval Patrick Joins 2020 Presidential Race: ‘We Will Build as We Climb’ Giuliani considers launching an impeachment podcast amid public hearings WATCH: Heybb! - Binki Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Friday, November 15th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'm back here on the show. We're going to take it nice and slow. And I'm here to let you know how the trump impeachment go i was looking for the crocs fuck coke brothers and fox i don't know where to put my hands listen to my comeback chant return of the jack return of the jack you knew that i'd be back return of the jack courtesy of somebody whose name disappeared off of my screen that was courtesy of socialist socialite and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray mr Gray. Mr. Miles Gray, a.k.a. Shug Zite,

a.k.a. Cold Brew Pock, Shakur, a.k.a. Snoop D-O-T-D-Z, a.k.a. Dr. Gray, a.k.a. Elizabeth Warren G, a.k.a. Black and Miles, because I'm smoking on Marlboro Zites, occasionally puffing on a Virginia Slim Menthol 420, or wrapping my shit up in a Swisher Yeet.

Thank you to Chrissy Yamaguchi-Maine for that, a.k.a. Chiki. Hell yeah. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Zara Norbosh, a.k.a. the Candy Corn Crusader. We're picturizing! What's up? Woo!

Creeping Sharia So happy to be here What an entrance She just kicked through the door Entrance. We're going to attack the scientific market, especially the kills, and electric guitars. She just kicked through the door to enter. With their own theme music. That's a first. With pyrotechnics.

Here, Creep and Sharia, the daily zeitgeist. Yeah. Creep and Sharia. That song rules. Thank you. Original composition? Yes. That's not a cover, right?

No. Okay, I just wanted to make sure. I didn't think I recognized that. What was that from? That's my debut as a mullah. Nice. Hell yeah. Yeah.

It's from our podcast, Good Muslim, Bad Muslim. Yeah. Good mullah, bad mullah. This is our fifth and final season. Oh, no. Yeah. And what a run. Five years.

Yeah. Man. Yeah. That's a hell ofer. What a run. Five years. Yeah. Man. Yeah. That's a hell of a run for a podcast. Did it feel, you know, as someone who looks across at his podcasting partner every day and wonders, when will the love fade? Is it about, like, did you feel like you've sort of gone through what the show itself

can do? Or are you guys doing different things? If I can delve in to understand the evolution i think we i mean we have this diy podcast it's an independent podcast we've been doing it five years once a month no seasons no hiatus right continuous right right and uh it gave us because we didn't we we don't do guests you know in our last episode we had fun with aisha sadiki she was a guest of ours on our last episode. But like in five years, we've had like three guests. And it's given us the opportunity to really find our individual voices and interests. And we have now. So now we kind of

want to jump into new genres. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, well, that'll be exciting. Whatever that next step is. I don't know what's going on in the divorce between you two. Oh. No divorce yet. Not yet. I've caught him texting people at times. But it's the very early stages. Do you know what?

Emotional cheating is cheating. It is. And Ivan, thank you. Thank you, Jack. It's not just my mother and therapist who's been saying that. I validate it. Thank you so much. Yeah.

You don't need my validation, but there it is. I mean, but also Jack catches me in here after I was recording fake podcasts with made-up co-hosts. Yeah. In a way, and that's kind of fucking with him, too. You know, it's going to be, I think we'll find the love again. Yes. We'll just go on vacation somewhere. I feel like this now.

Not all Vegas. We'll go to Vegas and we'll find each other again. That always solves it. A nice little Vegas vacation. It's just hard for me and this physician because he and I have a candy corn podcast. Right. Yeah. I thought that was a joke.

Wait, hold on. Y'all were serious about that? The candy corn. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you were going to talk to him, Jack. No. The fuck?

I thought we were going to talk about this after. This is so humiliating. All right, so we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Is Miles okay? I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. Get down from there. I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. See, I wouldn't be jumping up and down this seat if I wasn't fine.

First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We are going to check in with Fox's coverage of the impeachment. We are going to look at a study that suggests that female candidates are subjected to more online attacks. I can't. What a surprise. I can't be right. Such a feminist society. I never saw that coming.

Yeah, such as ours. ours yes does it also say right after that people also don't believe women when they say things is that yeah right yeah i don't believe that that's true now i don't believe this she's exaggerating whoever did this study was probably an emotional woman who was just you knowsterical because of her ovaries. Alright, we're back with Glenn Beck here. We rarely look forward to podcasts, but there is one on the horizon that we have to preview

because it is pretty exciting. And we're hoping that we can get it on our network. I think if we had it, if we were able to produce this podcast, we may be able to help move things along in this administration very quickly. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the fact that Stephen Miller, still employed by the White House.

Yeah. Still making official policy for our country. Yep. Huh. Yep. Yep. I mean, so much pressure from outlets like the New York Times to really ouster him. Is Trump still president, though?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me check. Yes. There it is. And we're going to look at Deval Patrick. He just had to enter the presidential primary, the Democratic primary, because, you know. I'm not even sure why. Because, you know. Yeah'm not even sure why. Because you know.

Yeah, I don't know. That's the million dollar question. Sir, why? What? You guys get it. Come on, you know. Wall Street. I think I'm going to steal that sound by, well, why? Yeah, well, why? Is it just a step up?

But first, Zara, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? All right. Latest. Latest and greatest. Did people eat dodo birds? Oh, wow. That's a great question. Did they?

Yes. They did? Yeah. I mean, people ate everything. Did you think of this because because they're extinct were you like okay did our appetites have to do with its extinction or you were just kind of being like that's extinct i wonder how it tasted yeah the latter man if i get some hand on my hands on some dodo meat i'm generally when things go i'm always like

but what did it taste like yeah right who Dinosaurs, what did they taste like? Oh, man. I mean, dinosaurs probably tasted like chicken. The Flintstones, I feel like. Oh, really? In the Flintstones, what were those big, huge ass ribs they were eating? Oh, yeah. Was that like an ox or something?

Brontosaurus ribs. Yeah, right? Yeah. Because the brontosaurus would be like the cattle because it was like grazing. They don't really show into those slaughterhouses, do they, what that looked like. uh but yeah those are those are the kinds of ideas in my head i'm like you know how good would t-rex arms be just like they like frog legs kind of like yeah it's like a chicken wing but yeah it's the size of a miata if you really think about how your fucking t-rex is in my mind i'm like yeah give me that little T-Rex arm.

And it's like the size of this table. Yeah, people used to eat everything. Charles Darwin ate every animal that he discovered. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, he was curious about every aspect of it, including documenting what they tasted like.

Oh, that's like me, how I imagine having sex with everyone I run into. Oh, wow. What's up, y'all? What's up? Get a nibble of that. Interesting thing to learn while making eye contact with you. Yeah.

Let's hold that eye contact a while. What's the marbling like on your calf? Wait, marbling? Like a beef product? Listen, before you go extinct, do let me know. Yeah, what is that, an A5 Wagyu thigh? You're half Japanese, right?

What kind of Wagyu are we talking about? So I looked this up because the bluefin tuna is going extinct. And isn't there something I was reading about like the carbon concentrations in a lot of tuna is indicating sort of what's going on with the phytoplankton. It's sort of like foundationally the food chain in the sea is fundamentally changing as well. I mean, what a time to be alive. I'm going to say yes and pretend to be as smart as that.

Right. Look, that was a very convoluted thing to bring up in a conversation. No, I'm very enlightened now. So what other buzzwords can I say out loud? Phytoplankton. Yeah, phytoplankton. This is all in the headline. You know what?

The day phytoplankton becomes a buzzword is the day that we all might actually heal this earth. Yeah, right. We're looking down at that level. Let's make those buzzwords instead of kvavafi. Yeah, kvavafi. Right, right, right. Exactly. What is something you think is underrated?

Underrated is impeachment parties. Yo, where are they? Yeah. I guess, okay, do you think it's dangerous to start super celebrating in the streets? I guess, what are we celebrating? The fact that maybe Democrats found the wherewithal to finally hold the president accountable

or that we think that they could be removed? I'm going to give you three reasons why. Okay. Number one, it's important for your health. There's an important TED Talk. Oh, like a bit of release, you're saying? Yes. There's an important TED Talk by Kelly McGonigal that you should all go and watch

that is about the importance of celebrations and how it floods your system with oxytocin and remembering your strengths and how that builds on strength. You got to celebrate. You got to get that shit in as often as possible. Interesting. Number two, it's important because as soon as we start celebrating, we're going to figure out what election day is actually going to look like. Right. Yeah.

Because the scary Nazis are going to start coming out for the small tailgate parties. Right. And we need to start those battles like early so that they don't happen like the month before we try to vote. Right, right. And number three, because we got to get excitement rallying for this shit to happen. Yeah, right. For public support. It's funny. The first point you bring up like speaks exactly to the thing that I'm doing the wrong version of, if that makes sense.

I'm, like, withholding celebrating in the event that it doesn't work. And then I'm doubly, however, but if I look at it very narrowly about doing that as a process of being like, well, you know what? Like, it's good to, like, feel invigorated. Because, shit, that doesn't stop me from celebrating some sports team I like who may win in a very narrow context. And in the back of my mind, I'm like, we're not getting in the Champions League. What the fuck's the deal? But in that moment, I allow myself to celebrate.

And that's what keeps me going. Yes. Interesting. In this landmark TED Talk, Kelly McGonigal revealed that people who believe that stress is bad for them will die 30 years earlier than people who just believe stress is stress 60% of the time. What do you mean that you believe that stress is bad? Yeah, the belief is what kills you, not the stress. And you're like, this is killing me. This job is killing me.

So stress is like Freddy Krueger. Basically, yeah. It's just in your head. Wait, so what's the talking? See, but if you went, stress is actually a Teletubby in my life. Right. That's trying to communicate with me. It motivates me.

It bops. I don't know what it says. A Teletubby with sharp teeth that's always nipping at my heels. You're going to die 30 years before me, sir. Oh, no. I don't do that. I celebrate. Well, in my mind, I just-

Sounds like I'm going extinct. What if you're of the belief where you're like, I don't have time for stress? I have a question first, though. Are your calves marbled? Yeah. I mean... That is the question. You can see through the pants, the marbling.

I feel like I'm looking at A5. I always think of like, if I was in a situation where I had to eat a human being, I would probably eat my own calf first. Right. Because I've been eyeing it my whole life. I would eat your calf first as well. You've got, Miles has very- That's good eating right there.

There's good meat on them bones. That's solid. If you want to talk about the marbling, if you want to take a butcher's look at that one. I was listening to a reporter talk about impeachment and they were saying that it brought them back to when they were a child during Watergate and their moms would all get babysitters and go over to each other's house and just get drunk child during a Watergate. Yes. And their moms would all get babysitters

and go over to each other's house and just get drunk and watch the Watergate impeachment. Oh, that's rad. Why aren't we doing that? I don't know. Let's go get drunk. Because people can't afford childcare. Right.

Oh, wait a minute. That's right. We have dissolved all social programs. That's where we're at now. It was very heteronormative where she was like, and then the dads would come home and they'd be like, where's my dinner? Why are you drunk?

And why are you mad? Now let me suck on my little brown dick, a cigar. Right. And then they would take some dextrogrin and move on. Yeah. Oh man. Sober up a little bit with some greenies. Yeah.

Some actual speed. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated is, you know what? I feel like people pay way too much attention to what people say. Okay. Yeah. Overrated.

Like, okay, number one for me as a dialoguer, I figure out what I'm trying to say as I talk about it. So I've never all that invested in anything that I say or other people say. I always assume it's evolving. Right. Interesting. Oh, like versus like, I need to actually figure out everything I'm about to say right now before I say it and then I'll say it. Yeah. And then being like really, really invested in that. Got you. You're just kind of like, I'm channeling energy. I'm feeling right now based on a given topic and then I'm I'm fluid yeah I'll make a move we can move with the wind I think the strongest I've ever felt the most rigid staunch

belief I've ever had is in how much I love candy corn oh boy and I know you're looking right dead in my eye into your soul yes I recall saying I don't like candy corn and you came after me on, on Instagram and I was like, I mean, that wasn't the only social platform I used, but yes, yes, I know that was the one that really got to me though. I was like, Oh no, she's, she's aware. Is there, can you tell me why you think candy corn is good? Ah, you would like me to explain why sugar tastes good. I guess, what is the flavor of candy corn?

Vague vanilla sugar? Yeah. Is there vanilla in it? Is vague a challenge for you? Yeah, I don't know. It's just not. Do you have to be like, this is chocolate. Done.

You can't have discovery. I'm just so rigid. I'm just like, what is the definition of this flavor? If it's too ambiguous, I am gone. Phytoplankton and sugar. How much carbon is in this? It has a butterscotchy aftertaste. It does.

That's a good way of describing it. Because I've always been closeted. Do you see what happened? Candicorn lover. Do you see what happened? I made room for him. He was closeted in corn lover. Do you see what happened? I made room for him. He was closeted in his love. This is probably why he's going to leave me for you.

Do you like the pumpkins? If you cry, I'm going to cry. No, you guys just do your show. This sounds really cool. I'll just sit back here. Do you like the pumpkins? Oh my god, the pumpkins? I really love the pumpkins.

We're dealing with the same sort of base material, but shaped as a pumpkin. Yeah. Shaped as a pumpkin. The coloring is a little bit more- Intense orange, I've realized. Yeah. Bright orange. It is.

And how much does it stick to your teeth? That's the other thing I remember is I feel like there- That's the best part is when candy sticks to your teeth. I hate that shit. It melts away slowly with your tea and your coffee. I was going to say, it melts away your teeth slowly. Well, that too. Breaks down your enamel to the point where your cavities develop.

But then cavities are just little places for the sugar to hide. So that you have little sugar treats that are later on coming out. Listen, I am proud of every root canal that I've had thanks to you, Candy Corn. Yeah. I've only had one and it failed. I just was cracking up listening to you guys because you were listing all of my loves. Wax lips?

Right. I love wax lips. That's like eating straight up a candle. It's the best. You eat that shit, right? How do you not eating straight up a candle it's the best you eat that shit right how do you not want to eat a candle isn't that other one like isn't it like a wax cola bottle yeah candy too yeah that's another one your paradigm on this is all wrong like if somebody came to me and was like you could munch on your laptop zara if i'd be like, I'm ready. You're like, hold on, not your laptop right now that you're munching on. I'm sorry, what were you, finish the sentence?

It's not made of sugar, but I mean, you guys all saw Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. There's the room where you get to eat everything. You know what it is? It's the textures, I think, is when I really think about it, because I don't like the waxy shit, because it evokes literally a candle in my mouth. Yeah. So it's like this isn't a thing I'd eat. Sounds so sexy.

And then the candle in my mouth. I've been kicked out of every candle store in this city. Try and go to a candle store with my fucking faces and plastered all over the walls. Welcome to my life. But yeah, and I think with candy corn, it's that I realize on i like chocolatey sweets the most if there's a hierarchy like fruity ones rank low jelly beans are at the very bottom bottom yeah so because they're there it's like in that similar like chewy thing like starbursts i like more but they get stuck to my teeth laffy taffy i feel like they've finally done something with the formula because i this year eating some Laffy Taffy, it wasn't stuck all in my fucking teeth.

You know what's a beautiful in-between of Laffy Taffy and Starburst? It's Airheads. Yeah, Airheads are good. Yeah, love those. I think I like all candy, I've just discovered. Yeah. Very pan candy love. Pan candy.

Pandy. Except I don't like... Pandy for candy. Yes. I don't like jelly beansandy for candy. Yes. I don't like jelly beans that are just jelly bean flavored. Yeah, that's annoying. Yeah. It feels like such a cop out.

What is jelly bean flavor? It's just- Just sugar. It's almost like it takes a step, like gives a head fake towards licorice, but isn't licorice. Right. It's just- Isn't there like, can you almost taste like- Doesn't even have the balls to be licorice.

Crystallized granules of sugar like inside some jelly beans. Like there's a little crunch to it. You know what? You're right. There is an upside. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.

Zara, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? There is no standard of funny, folks. Okay. So this leads into- Now, Zara, funny is funny. Listen. Listen here.

Listen here. He's a little white guy. Something that I know, that I've known. Funny is funny. You just sense it in your bones. Nope. Your bones, not my bones. My bones are here being like, not funny. This ain't it.

I remember last time you were here, or one of the previous times you interviewed Jack and I, because you've been working on something around this. Yeah. Yeah. I spent a year as a senior fellow on comedy for social impact with an organization called the Pop Culture Collaborative. Look them up. They work at the intersection of Hollywood and philanthropy and social justice. So I think that's Brentwood?

Yeah. Hollywood and philanthropy. It's an L.A. joke for my people out there. They're everywhere. They are a liberal Illuminati. Got it. That's not quite that corrupt and isolated. Sure, sure.

But hey, maybe. And I worked with them on analyzing comedy and the comedy pipeline, specifically the stand-up comedy pipeline. And one of the things I figured out was like early on was that I would have to figure out metrics for how to evaluate comedy because comedy is subjective. Yeah, right. You know, and part of the problem is that folks watch one kind of comedy, you know, that is like a genre that we see. It's like, you know, a lot of white guys at a bar making jokes. And then everybody emulates that.

And then that gets called funny. Right. when people of color would, or people who identify as queer, anyone outside of the normative cis, hetero, white male experience would identify something that's funny. They would say, oh, they're doing something different with comedy. But then when like Louis C.K. would get up on stage and do meandering storytelling, then people would say, oh, he's an innovator. Right, right, right. He's changing the field of comedy.

And it was like, well, how come when I do it, the genre is bending for me, but when he does it, he's innovating in the field. Why can't I be an innovator? Right. And what I started to see is that when I get up on stage, people are looking to place me before they're going to give me that authorship to surprise them. So you say when they're trying to place you, being like, what style of comedy? No, like where are you from?

Oh, like how do I put my cultural biases glasses on to look at your comedy? Because I don't know which pair to put on right now. Exactly. If you were one of the Sex and the City characters, which one would you be? No, no. I'm joking. Right. Right. Exactly.

Oh, then I don't know. Then you must be bending the genre. Basically. Right, right, right. I mean, even just Sex and the City was like revolutionary in creating four women instead of one. Right, right. Yeah, yeah.

You know? So when I would get up on stage and I would do my jokes, I would always get this guy after shows going, How come you didn't talk about being Sicilian? Are you not proud? And I'd be like, I'm not Sicilian. Wait, really? Yeah, every single time. What?

That's so... They're like, you should do jokes about being Italian. You should do jokes about being Sicilian. You should do jokes about being Greek. And I would say, I'm not Greek. I'm Persian. Where's that? What part of Sicily is that yeah and and then i started to notice when i do jokes oh my god they're distracted they're trying to place me they're not listening

right so that's why i now start my sets by saying i'm a feminist muslim iranian american comedian and then i get laughs does that get laughs too? Yeah. Like just merely doing that? I get a lot of different, like sometimes people laugh, sometimes people cheer. Right, yeah, yeah. Which is always nice.

And then sometimes people just like listen, like okay. And some people just dial 911 and then wait. And just keep their finger above the one. Try not to perform in those spaces. Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, I'm surprised you go up there.

I'm assuming you're going to say your name Zara Norbach, and then people are like, yeah, Paisan. At what point are they like, you got to do more Sicily material. When I hear that name, the Godfather theme just starts playing in the back of my head. Yeah, I'm taking back to the old country. Did you fuck my wife? You fucked my wife. You fucked my wife is an underrated robert de niro line you fuck my wife fuck my wife hey you fuck my wife i don't know possibly um you have candy corn with her he's talking about corn um when you so after that

that you realize too that just even in the basic structure of setup and punchline that people's mental bandwidth can actually, like, it's not split or because of that, that also feeds into how they're taking in your joke set. Both. Both. And for comedians who have to do that additional work of establishing context, you know, because, like, when it comes to white guys, we have so many flavors, right? Like, if I confuse Seth Rogen and Michael Cera, somebody would look. Oh, God. You see? You'll go to jail.

You can't. Right. How could you even? Kevin Costner with Tom Cruise. What? Right. What are you doing? Kevin Costner with Tom Cruise?

How could you even? And then different Kevin Costner movies. Oh, God. Right. Even then. It's like, that's Waterworld. That part of Waterworld where then he's like dancing. Not bodyguard.

I mean, there's so much. We come in expecting a white guy with a mic to tell us something. That's a position we're accustomed to. They're in charge. They're going to tell us something. What are they going to do with that authority? Right. Interesting.

When I get up on stage, then people want to know, who is she? Where is she from? What do her parents think about this? And do I agree with whether or not she should have that authority? And you put this all into a really interesting report with charts. With pictures. And graphics. Pictures that are very easy to understand.

And very easy to follow. Especially for someone who's like, I'm trying to create metrics for what's funny. And I'm like, this is very easy to follow, actually. Yay! Check it out. PopCollab.org slash funny is funny. We'll put that in the footnotes, so please actually check that out, because I think that's a really important aspect of

this work you've done. Yeah, one of the things I'm hoping to do is to just expand the conversation on humor outside of just the, like, is this censorship? Yeah, is it funny? Is it not? PC culture? Yeah. There's so much more conversation we can have.

There's a complex political topography with Plankton and Moore. Right. Ooh. I get all my comedy theory from comedians in cars getting coffee and what Jerry Seinfeld has to say about college students these days. And high school girls. So Miles, Jack and I are getting a divorce. No!

No, you know what? You guys sound perfect. You just haven't seen the right episode yet. You just haven't seen the right episode yet. Look who's come begging and crawling back. I knew it was a wash from the beginning. I want your marble, guys. We're going to take a quick break.

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I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Still nibbling. Still nibbling. Yep. Picking a piece of Miles' marble calves out from between your teeth. Have you heard the thing that they say dogs lick your face because they're trying to get to your bones?

What? Never mind. Did the acid just hit? No. No, because she was talking about my calves, and then I was thinking about someone saying, like, dogs, like, they lick because in a way they're trying to figure out where your bones are. I don't know. This is when I hang out with this dude who works at Backcourt.

They lick it because of the salt from all the tears. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right. All tears. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right. All right. Let's talk about impeachment. We just like to throw little curve balls up top. I like telling my husband now when I kiss him.

It's because I want to know what your bones taste like. Trying to get to the bones underneath there. Those mouth bones. What's our prenup? Our prenum Num num Delicious prenups Let's talk about Fox's coverage of impeachment

The Atlantic had a nice little breakdown Of how Fox was covering The testimony by just Basically Blasting us with chyrons of stuff. The president had said about the stuff that's on screen, like literally taking you inside the mind of the president as he sees this

various things like, what do you mean? So for instance, when Taylor was on screen, uh, the Fox headline was October 23rd, President Trump dismissed Taylor as a never Trumper and White House called Taylor's closed door testimony triple hearsay. And GOP says Taylor had no firsthand knowledge about Ukraine aid. And by the way, I'm saying it in that tone because these are all caps.

They put it in all caps just to- With like blood dripping down the text. But it really seems- And this is about Taylor Swift. Yes, Taylor, as I call her. Okay, I just want to make sure I'm keeping up. Yes. But yeah, it's almost like they've decided

the feedback loop has fused into one where we're now seeing like Terminator heads up display vision of like what. Just like analyzing. Yeah. Donald Trump analyzing, analyzing. Never Trumper. Must kill. Right. Never Trumper.

Yes. That's the word they use to try and paint like conservatives who like are trying to be somewhat objective. It's like, well, they're never Trumpers. Meaning like, you see what I mean about buzzwords. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's what they got, man.

Man. It's interesting to also see just like the way even the Republicans were like working through their question rounds of like, you would almost get lost if you're not up to date on all the conspiracy theories on the right about how they're looking at it. Yeah. Because there are moments where people are like, what? Yeah. And then so that's what was like really interesting and what Fox focused on.

So Republicans would ask questions that were based on like conspiracy theories that you would have had to be watching Sean Hannity to be up on. Yeah. And Taylor would kind of pause and not have an answer and just kind of be like, huh? And they'd be like, he was speechless. He almost made it seem like he didn't know what to say or they had stumped him what a way to like completely dismiss any argument by just saying somebody's a never trumper yeah right if you disagreed with me i'd be like you're a never zara anyway yeah well it's same it's it's there's a version of that in regular culture just called me like well they're a hater right you know i mean

that's really what it is. Like this dismissive thing where it's like this person is saying something that is diametrically opposed to maybe my worldview or what I how I'm perceiving reality. And rather than maybe parsing through that, I'm like, you're a hater. It's a clever way of like creating sub hate categories. Right. And like convoluting the argument because then now you're making it about whether or not those sub haters exist and it's no longer about the argument.

Yeah. It's a great, it's the perfect amuse-bouche on your way to your main course of cognitive dissonance. You know what I mean? Just to be like, start off with that hater talk. Because I mean,

you see that the most in regular people. Like I see people dismiss like uh criticisms of either their work or behavior like well they're a hater I'm like no they brought up actually something really valid about how you're behaving like if you would just take that on you might actually maybe have a moment of introspection right that might be too much and then you can just be like they're a hater so I'm. It's like the reality TV philosophy of just like everyone's a hater. You're fake. And I'm just here to win.

Yeah. And I didn't come here to make friends. You know what they say in communications coaching? What's that? They say whatever the package is, you take the gift, you leave the wrapping. Mm-hmm. Very interesting. So you litter?

Right. Yes. Yeah. More garbage. On the street. All the time. More garbage. Yeah. More garbage. On the street. All the time. More garbage. Yeah.

Yeah. I think, I mean, just with also seeing how Jim Jordan, we touched on it a little bit, how sniveling he was because he was Mr. I'm going to say a conspiracy theory really fast and then I'm going to smirk when you're so confused. And then you heard it from this person and this person heard it from that person. True or false? True or false? Joe Biden was the vice president.

Right. That's true. True or false? Hunter Biden is Joe Biden's son. True. True or false? true or false, Joe Biden was the vice president. Right. That's true. True or false, Hunter Biden is Joe Biden's son. True. True or false, Boromir died before Faramir. Exactly.

So how can we trust anything this man says? Right. So, the defense rests. Who died first? Was it Faramir? I have no idea.

Boromir. Man, I don't even know what you're talking about. Dude, Lord of the Rings, man. That's why we can't trust you, man. Yeah.

This man is not keen on Tolkien. He's not keen on Tolkien? Yeah. Get him out. He's not American. He's not a patriot. That's true. That's true about me.

He probably worships Ra's al Ghul. The number one American patriot, Tolkien. Tolkien. Gandalf. All right. There is a study, an analysis of Twitter that is making the case that misogyny is real. You lost me at Twitter? Yeah. Yeah.

Right. Exactly. The most chill social media platform. What they sort of did was they looked at just Twitter conversations for a week following campaign announcements of six candidates. Right. Just to kind of analyze like what the sort of content or tone was of these like how people were speaking. And they found that when it was any kind of conversation around female candidates was around, you know, character and identity. Whereas when it was around male candidates, it was more about like policy and electability.

That's amazing. I was just talking about this with jokes. Right, right. Yeah, the exact same thing. What do I know? It's a cultural phenomenon. The New York Times study, or the New York Times poll about,

that like pitted Warren, Biden,ers against trump in like all the battleground states and they were like warren is doing much worse than any anyone else in those head-to-head match-ups and they like dug in a little deeper and like asked questions that sort of slanted uh the question so it wasn't clear that they were asking, like, are you a misogynist? But it was like, that's what they were getting at. And it was very clear that Warren was just being hurt by the fact that she's a woman,

like straight up and down. Like they were just like, wow. This is making me feel a little better about the Dems knowing that they're asking these questions now. Right. Yeah, yeah. That they're even really like i think we should ask the question because the strategy when hillary was running to was just not talk about it right right right right you know it was like where's the conversation about

our relationship to women in leadership right yeah well i think that conversation i you'd think would be brought up a little bit more aggressively because I think it's more comes out in drips and drabs of like, who would have thought? We live in a patriarchy, huh? Yeah. What do you know? And I think they also even say that when they look at the nature of the coverage, that a lot of female candidates are getting more attacks from the right wing and fake news, like sort of coordinated attacks against them than male politicians. use like sort of coordinated attacks against them than male politicians. But they did show that like when you were popular, those attacks were pretty much like those were pretty much proportionate.

But if you were popular and female, it was like added penalty basically in terms of like what those interactions were. I feel like every woman listening to this who's ever been in a management position is like, uh-huh. Right. Yeah. who's ever been in a management position is like, uh-huh. Right. I have this saying for myself now, which is, because women do this to other women, sometimes almost more than men. Right.

I mean, it's internalized. The likability factor. When you're a woman in charge, the requirement that you be likable, that you be liked, is huge. Yeah. And women are constantly asked to apologize for their actions, to apologize for holding people accountable, which is our job when we're in a position of leadership. It's like, who does she think she is?

My manager? Exactly. You know, or like people get intimidated that you know more than them. And it's like, yeah, that's why I'm in charge of you. I am in charge of you. But I got a dick. It's ridiculous. No, it's it's you see this all over too this even right now there's like a big story that's been coming out of japan

where a lot of female employees are like you know maybe you shouldn't wear eyeglasses and frigid and it's like i mean already there's it's a very chauvinistic culture to begin with and that was the goal. Yeah, of course. No, but I think – and then – but there – we see these sort of things constantly. Yes. And manifesting in all these different ways. Yes. But yeah, I think you'd hope that the next evolution of like these stories going like, damn, that sucks, huh?

Is then now being like, can we talk about what our – like you're saying, what are our relationships to this idea of women being in positions of power? Because clearly in other countries, they've at least somewhat moved past it by their election. Angela Merkel. Yeah, of female leaders and things like that. Margaret Thatcher. Yeah. Yeah. Old Thatchy.

Old Thatch. I think it's really important that we know. I mean, I state this for myself. I don't need to like women in positions of power. Right. Right. I don't need to like them. But it's, yeah.

What do you mean you don't need to like? You mean to respect what they're doing? I mean, I don't even know. Or it's not important that likability doesn't, it's irrelevant. I think our relationship to women and likability is so convoluted and weird. Right. That it's the other kind of candy corn. It's the bad candy corn. The flavor you can't pinpoint.

Or to me, candy corn. This is debatable. I can't even believe I've given you this much of my life. Damn it. No, but the crux of this is not debatable. Like, I just, I feel like our relationship to women and likability is already so messed up that there's so much going on there. We project so much. We parentify women in charge.

And then we project our relationship to that parentification onto them, you know, and act that out. There's so much happening. Women, you know, with other women in positions of power get threatened there's so much going on that i try to focus on action and goal right you know and then re-examine everything else that's coming on around it but when it comes to a woman telling me what to do however she's telling it to me i take the gift right say thank you. Yeah, sure, sure. And move on. Gia Tolentino in her book Trick Mirror was talking about how women are sort of better adapted to what it's like to be on the internet because they have to do this dance between projecting a personality and also like inhabiting that personality and like that yes kind of always had to do that it's really interesting all the time right and it's it also makes me wonder like how much of this rise in like overt misogyny like in the past couple i guess past decade like the

well the the gamer gate thing is just men responding to not having the immediate benefit of the doubt given to them because they don't have all the cues at their like when you're online you don't have the benefit of people just immediately knowing you're a a dude you know so like they're like kind of responding to that absence by lashing out. But it is like, I really, I think we need to keep asking the question of like, what specifically is it about American culture that like, this seems to be the deepest, most pervasive, most unshakable bias that American culture has. I'm going to simplify it. Because, you know, one of the things I found in doing my research

was that it's less about the quality of the narrative you say and more about how often you hear it. Right. So like Fox News with their loops, you know, even though they don't make any sense. Yeah, it's like, but you're stuck. You just say them over and over and over and over again. And it just becomes so familiar. Right. That the familiarity is more disarming than anything else yeah and people always say comedy has this ability to be disarming but really it's just because the

power of a joke is you remind us of something we already knew to be true right you know oh you forgot that i'm a human but i am right i'm just like you. Oh, you reminded me. Oh, I forgot. And we laugh and we're delighted. So it's like when it comes to our relationships to women in leadership, how many television shows can you look at where there's a woman in a position of power and it's not about whether or not we can trust her? Right.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One, I think it even extends to just how the how we treat women as a society as well, or just with the policies we have around reproductive rights and things like that. At every turn, there's a message that reinforces this idea of like, well, I mean, look at look at all the leading male roles. Right. With like 24, Jack Bauer is like, you know, is he going to save his daughter? Is government going to get in the way? Is he on heroin? Right. And then with anything starring a woman, give me one.

Scandal. There you go. It's already in the title. Yeah. But Olivia Pope, I mean, she's so fierce. And being inexplicably damsel at times. We don't know, though. Who cares? Ooh, I like inexplicably damsel.

Well, I mean. That should be a podcast. Yeah, inexplicably damsel. Like, how a podcast. Yeah, inexplicably damsel. Like, how did y'all take their agency away in this situation? Let's talk real quick about the fact that Stephen Miller is still employed. Miles, you were kind of pointing out the just contrasting that with Van Jones. A lot of people were remembering when Obama's first term. First of all, I just want to say everybody who tried to come after Ilhan Omar for calling

him a white nationalist owes her a fucking apology. Oh, yeah. Right. Because she just she's like, this guy's a white. They're like, what? Yeah. Just because he's a white. Jewish.

Right. They were like, that's anti-Semitic. I'm sure as soon as she gets out from underneath the death threats coming her way, she will maybe say something. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. But again, so there was this whole thing that the Southern Poverty Law Center released this trove of emails between Stephen

Miller, aka Santa Monica Gerbils, with correspondence between him and someone at Breitbart, editors at Breitbart, you know, passing along just straight up white nationalist garbage, nativist bullshit, xenophobia, everything. We talked about it on the Light Geist, Night Geist, Zeit Bites, whatever we're calling that little midday show we do.

I mean, those are three great options. He kept talking about this book called The Camp of the Saints, which is a French novel that's very popular with white supremacists. They love the book. They love the book where it's just a depiction of just basically saying brown people will invade your white country. It'll get gross. And one of the main characters is literally called the turd eater. Because it's well written.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, but I guess in French, uh, tear de tear. Um, but I, but when you then, so what he was saying in relation to this book was sort of saying the Pope wants open borders. I mean, hasn't, hasn't anyone learned the lessons that were in this book, the camp of the saints. And then Breitbart to basically put an article connecting those ideas together. Right.

Um, and again, we're looking at somebody who is setting our immigration policies that are so hateful and xenophobic that we all know, I'm sure most of us presume that that's probably why he was chosen. Right. Because he was a Jeff Sessions, like he fell off that shit pile tree and right into the White House garden. And they're like, yeah, this is great. This is who will set our policies. Um, but with Van Jones, right in 2009, he got in so much shit

because they're like, this guy, uh, was a complicit in some, like some weird nine 11 truth or thing. But essentially his take was that like, he felt George Bush was complicit in it somehow. Okay. That's a weird take, but at the time, you could be like, whatever. That's one part of it. The other parts were that he was – how dare he support Mumia Abu-Jamal with the – The Black Panther. Yes. In jail. He killed a police officer.

But then the trial was really fucked up. There was evidence tampering. And it's just like clearly one of those situations where like, yeah, the cop – everyone sided with the cop. The judge would even saying like in an affidavit from a stenographer was using the N-word, like, we're going to fry this dude. But how dare he voice support for this person and then had the temerity to criticize what they, using quotes, US imperialism.

So when he said that shit, they came, dude, right-wing media, Glenn Beck, all of them, they fucking came for his ass, and he fucking resigned. Because they're like, this pressure is just too much. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you had your eyes worked and you were able to articulate what U.S. imperialism was for these people. But when you contrast that with what's happening now, it's like, where the fuck are we?

Yeah. Stephen Miller has been outed as a open white supremacist and like in basically very much connected to his current career, like his current job. Like it was him doing this in association with like the Trump campaign, which is now his fucking job. Yeah. It's like, well, okay, sir, I'm looking at your resume. It's just one line here. It says your name, Stephen Miller, and it says, I want to enact policies of terror against brown people. Yes.

Okay, so I'm going to put you in charge of immigration. How does that sound? Oh, my God. It's like, yeah, yeah, great, great, great. That's pretty much the most direct line to that kind of shit, and that's what we have. Right. Also, Van Jones at one point called Republicans assholes. And these were all statements that were before he was even appointed.

But this clip, they're like, can you believe this guy? He said we're assholes. Right. And he's like, I'm sorry. Get him out. I see with my eyes. Yeah. But when you look at also like the New York Times, you know, a lot of people were, they

always come at the New York Times because they like to just underhand toss, you know, nice light pieces at the White House. You know, for Maggie Haberman, who was so big on Hillary Clinton's emails, they're like, wow, a lot of a lot of crickets coming out your feed when we're talking about like straight up white supremacist drivel in emails from Stephen Miller. But you just want to be like, isn't Hope Hicks Bay? Right. Yeah. I keep working on those picks, those pieces. I mean,

they just, they wrote about it, but they, it was just very much like down the middle. He's causing controversy by being like, he is a white supremacist who is in the white house setting policy for our government. Right.

Hmm. But Van Jones, anyway, I mean, later on, I on i i've you know i not that i think van jones is the perfect guy but i think just to contrast sort of the reactions of someone having what you know one side might consider a hot take right um i'm like i don't know how much it gets hotter than straight up white nationalism white supremacy i mean i like i i just can't. I can't even. I wonder too if we're at that point where this has become normalized. Even in your past appearance,

you talk about destabilizing. That we are so destabilized as people, as a society, that we are looking at this person up in our faces. We all know he's a white supremacist. And it's like, what are we going to do? know because every time we complain they don't do anything because they don't care so what's the point even this time yeah i mean it's it makes me nauseous because what i see

happening is that the new economy globally has become a detention center economy yeah and so then what i hear you saying is that they are putting people in positions of power who have the ability to detain more people of color. Right. That's the new economy. And generate even more profits. That's the new global economy. Like you look at the concentration camps in China, in India, in, I mean, how many-

The United States. In the United States is the highest. Yeah. Right. The highest. Yeah. The highest? Yeah. Right. The highest. Yeah. The containment of people.

Right. You know, is clearly to me becoming the solution to climate crisis. Oh, absolutely. And I think as more people begin to sort of push back against like these structures of power within their own countries, that's another moment to be like, how do we make more profit out of these people who are up in the streets? Right. Yep. How do we outlaw that?

That's why I think they keep mentioning Giuliani's relationship to homelessness in New York, right? Because threw them all in jail. Right. Yeah. You know, this detention economy. Yeah. And then that's also even more concerning that then the belief systems

of people in positions to decide what is and isn't criminal right yeah is based on shit like this yeah yeah remember that like when before all the trump administration shit when we were talking about the fucking all the like free labor and we could focus on like the companies that were using prison labor right and then and what type of universal health care we wanted to have remember those yeah days when we were like what kind though oh boy yeah uh all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we have a new entry into the Democratic field. Thank God. Bloomberg was getting all the attention and then coming out of left field, Mr. Deval Patrick. Deval Patrick. Former governor of Massachusetts. He's got a real interesting sales pitch. Yeah.

I'll just read how the New York Times is describing him entering the race. And you tell me how inspiring this is, okay, considering the times we're in. Okay, wait. I want to announce that you're entering the race. Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. From the New York Times, Mr. Patrick hopes to bridge the divisions that have shaped the contest so far.

What? Appealing to centrists and liberals, white and non-white voters across generational and economic lines. In a way, none of the candidates have been able to do. Really? What is his policy? Well, hold on. Easy now. Did I tell you?

As they go on, literally the next sentence is, quote, a close friend of former President Barack Obama. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. He has told advisors that he envisions a campaign similar to Obama's in 2008, focusing more on bringing people together and healing the country than making a particular ideological case. That's the kind of leadership and bravery we need right now. I'm not here to make an ideological case. I'm here. I'm running on a platform.

Remember when we pretended systemic racism and economic injustice like we're in a thing? Right. It's kind of what this sounds like to me. It's so vague. Let me sell you a feeling, even though the feeling you feel is the crushing of the economy against you. I'm running on a platform of basic human rights. It's a very odd thing. I mean, look, he's very qualified.

He was a Harvard grad, a civil rights lawyer at DOJ. You know, obviously he's a governor. Like, that's fine. I don't question where his heart is, but like, I just, this ain't it. I'm like, we're past candidates like this. Doesn't, he had the same position at Bain Capital that Mitt Romney had in 2000. Very important to also mention, Bain had a position at Bain Capital. Bain Capital, which is like a big, dark force of economic, you know, money generating, money generating. The company started off the ground, man.

What is it? It's like a fund. Yeah, venture capital shit. Bullshit. But so in 2012, Mitt Romney, like this was the dark business past that kind of made people look at him askance. And dude had the same position as him.

So they're like, you know what we need? We need Obama in 2012, but then fuse it with mitt romney so that it's yeah you know corporate raider yeah let him know basically like yo it's weird it just shows you the lack of creativity on the people who are like king making or thinking they're king making on the left being like yeah man what about like devol right he's like harvard lawyer black like he's he's not gonna fucking burn us because he gets what it's like on wall street you know what about him what if we get in his ear but apparently like the obamas have also we're also talking to him like trying to maybe well a long time ago like i remember there was a new yorker profile of him

that was talking about the bain capital stuff. And then he just kept saying, no, I'm not going to run. And then he came out with an official statement when there was all this buzz where he said, no, I'm not going to run. He officially took his name out. So I am wondering what spurred him to now enter the race other than just the leftward movement? I don't know. I know at first his wife was sick and that was one of the reasons he wasn't getting in. And then she's doing much better now.

And I think maybe that could be it. But then you think like, maybe you want to be with your family and not enter like, cause this is futile. This whole thing. And also what's interesting is, you know, his bio was on the Bain Capital website until, like, I think yesterday, and they took it down very quickly.

But, you know, there's an internet archive, so you can read how they were describing him. Because out here he's like, you know, I'm just trying to heal the nation. Meanwhile, this is how Bain Capital sees him. Prior to joining the firm, he served as governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts for eight years before entering public office. Governor Patrick

was executive vice president and general counsel of the Coca-Cola Company. He also worked as vice president and general counsel of Texaco Incorporated. Damn.

And served on the company's executive council. Damn. And then goes on to some other shit too. Oh my God. But it's like, come on, bro.

Right. Coca-Cola and Texaco? Yeah. He's gonna be a reformer who changes things. Of course, dude. But it's like, come on, bro. Right. Coca-Cola and Texaco? Yeah. He's going to be a reformer who changes things. Of course, dude. But, you know, it takes somebody with knowledge of the system to change the system, you guys. Oh, my God. I can totally see that being the argument.

But isn't that gross? Wow. Coca-Cola and Texaco. Yeah. But I think on his website, they painted as he led reforms at Texaco where a court appointed him to create a more equitable and inclusive workplace and a Coca-Cola where he stood up for employees and unions. But not like draining all the water out of certain cities where you can make your drinks.

Oh, my God. Anyway, so that's it's just funny. Like as much as everyone, we're kind of like looking at these things. Oh, yeah, that's a great idea. And you're like, no, fool. Like, a lot of people do not like this kind of energy in a candidate anymore. It's like a lot of people are past the like, let's soothe ourselves with like memories of the good times.

And now we're like, we're trying to like eat the rich now. Oh, my God. Like, I'm trying to rip out their cash holes. Right. So what's the deal here? I don't need Mr. Also, where a court appointed him, that's how fucked up the shit was at Texaco. Where they're like, my man, the court legally, they're like, you have to have this dude here.

Where they just rolled up on the street. Okay, but I need to hear you say rip out their cash holes like Hulk Hogan, though. We're going out there. We're going to rip out your cash hole, brother. Just rip it right up. And I think that's the thing is like where you see these people are miscalculating what the sentiment is because there are more people who are working and are not doing as well as they should be. Yes. Who are now looking at this election being like, what does my life look like in the next eight years?

Do you know what's the easiest thing to build? Infrastructure. Yeah, right. Do you know what's the hardest thing to get through? Corruption. Right. You have to be Weasley. You got to mess with language.

Yeah. You got to create all kinds of red herrings and smoke screens, and you have to work every day to keep people from seeing corruption. Right, right, right. The easiest thing to build is a building. Right, right. The hardest thing to do is to lie about a building. They're like, it's being built.

Right. You'll see. I mean, it's going to be sick, dude. This whole thing is like. You can see it. You can walk in it. Lying about it is tough. Yeah, very tough.

Well, and like I said before, we don't usually do this on this podcast, but we are going to take a look inward at the podcast industry, and specifically... Can we do that? A show that is being rumored that we want to just put our services out there to

Rudy Giuliani, the guy who butt dials journalists, confesses to crimes on TV. Locked out of his iPhone and then went to an Apple store after being named or informally his cyber security advisor to Trump.

Yes. He's been talking about doing a podcast ever since, like, I think this summer is when it started, because he's been, like, he's just been saying the dumbest shit out loud, and they're like, you're confessing to crime. I don't know, dumb.

Yeah, interesting. Interesting, interesting, interesting. Most interesting news-making stuff. News-making, oh, I'm sorry, yes. He's been saying the most lit shit. He's been defining the most lit shit he's been defining the headlines yeah um so recently they heard him he was loudly speaking uh at a lunch last weekend about starting a podcast it says uh giuliani was overheard discussing the plans with

an unidentified woman while at a crowded new york city restaurant the conversation which lasted more than an hour touched on details including dates for recording and releasing the podcast, settling on a logo, and the process of uploading the podcast to iTunes and other podcast distributors. Two people who overheard his discussions reached out to CNN and provided a recording they decided to make of the conversation. So this dude was screaming about his podcast plans. So it sounds like the inside of any WeWork.

And he wants to apparently, now this is Jack where maybe our expertise comes in. He wants to do a limited run series. Four to five episodes. How do you guys feel about that? I think you could do something daily, Rudy. Right. At least weekly. I think weekly well into past election day.

I mean, this is all about taking the wall out from between you and the people who love you, Rudy, who want to hear what's going on inside that head of yours. Because his whole motivation is to get in front of a lot of this shit that he feels like he's being implicated in or he's basically been has his hands all over in terms of a lot of this Ukraine scandal. Basically, Ben has his hands all over in terms of a lot of this Ukraine scandal. And so it's only going to be another opportunity to just self-own. Brought to you by ZocDoc or whatever. You know what, Rudy? Go DIY. Yeah.

Yeah, dude. Quantity over quality, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Get it out there. Get a subscribership going. Yeah. Patreon maybe. Yeah.

I feel like this is like he's surrounded himself by like yes men and people who like rely on him for corrupt uh ends and they're all telling him like he's brilliant and hilarious and cool and the best and so he keeps seeing himself get negative coverage elsewhere and so he's like i mean even la even Laura Ingram's being mean to me. Yeah, they're like, this guy's got to go. So now he's like, well, the problem must be them, so I just need a direct line to the people. Right.

I feel like this is a very unique opportunity where we're going to get to see sort of just how – I really hope this podcast. I mean, his lawyer must be begging him to not. I know. Or be like, I will no longer like you're going to I can't defend you because there's going to be an episode on like what really happened in Ukraine. I mean, and he tells the truth. It's like, dude, no, you just this is exhibit A in your trial.

But hey, triple hearsay. But I guess this is what's funny, dude, no, you just, this is exhibit A in your trial. This is a triple hearsay. But I guess this is what's funny, right? This is how the double-edged sword of this thing is like, it's so corrupt on one side, but just utter chaos on the other end of it is like, none of these people know what they're doing. Also, his spokeswoman is 20 years old and she goes to Liberty University. She's in the graduating class of 2022. That's his spokeswoman. And she has all these like additional connections to like Lev Parnas and the Long Island lawyer,

this guy, Gucci Ardo, who like gave him the 500,000. Like she's somehow involved with that. And like it. Y'all know what I'm going to tell you, right? Huh? Welcome to Iran. involved with that and like it y'all know what i'm gonna tell you right huh welcome to iran you are here welcome yeah uh it's i mean creep and sharia right dude i mean i'm the these are all like chaos is a destabilizing tactic the key to sustaining a corrupt system is making it so

that it's impossible to hold anybody accountable because everybody's involved right and i think this is where that's why i think this is such a serious moment too is like you're we're seeing how there's no this is a fully like a chicken without its head on fire with a bunch of knives and like auto turrets taped to its back right like it's a dangerous situation on a hot hot wheel. Yeah, on a hot wheel. Exactly. But, like, where do we, is there going to be some kind of thing to answer to at this point?

Or are we fully- This is how you create government collapse. Yeah, right. Yeah. I'm just saying. Right. And then we just need some plant from what other country to be like, hey, y'all want to AstroTurf for this person?

This is what happens. You become so fed up, you're begging for foreign intervention. Right, right, right. Sound familiar? Can you imagine? Like, dude, please, Putin. Yeah. So sorry for what I said about you, Ro.

I think your chest is really well sculpted. I was wrong of me to come at you because of your age and stuff like that. Do you guys think he's bionic yet? Putin? Yeah. Like, do you think he's uploaded his consciousness or something? Whatever it is that they can do. Because, you know, they only tell us about the technology that like we're allowed to know about, right?

Yeah. So there's like shit we don't even know about that they can do. Right. And like they already have the like scientific information to make people live to like 130 now. I don't know. I guess the one thing, pour a bunch of water on them. See what happens. Shorts out.

I do wonder if Trump, because if they do have access to life-prolonging technology, I wonder if that's why Trump hasn't died yet. Maybe that's the diapers holding his organs in. Right, right. No, that's not a diaper. See, that's where you got it wrong. Oh, what is it? That is a life-preserving underwear that he wears, wired with all kinds of technology that circulates his blood, gives him cell therapy.

I was hoping it was just a pouch full of candy corn. Just dip in. Just dip in there? And nom, nom, nom. Would you dip in there? I wonder what this one will taste like. Gonna taste like Diet Coke sweats. Butterscotch?

That's why he's that color? Is because he's just coated in butterscotch flavoring? Well, it's because his underwear is filled with candy corn. It's just seeping into his skin. And he's like, I should probably take some of these out. I don't know if we're safe having figured it out. Yeah. No, we're all going down. People

will know when they're listening to this episode when something was like Humana health insurance ad starts playing. I really, I honestly had that thought when I thought I still believe I figured out the JFK assassination. I was like, they're going to come for me, dog. What do you think happened? Isn't that so cool

to think so highly of yourself? Yeah. I was like they're gonna come for me dog what do you think happened isn't that so cool to think so high yeah yeah I was like once I published this podcast I'm done on on howl Earwolf's like hidden network like it got listened to by like 200 people damn I'm so power I'm gonna make that my ringtone so So powerful. That's a hell of a drug. I get like that too where I think like my webcam, there are people always watching me through my webcam,

my laptop. I'll like pick my nose and then I'll be like, yeah, because I'm meant to do that. Look at my pod, look at my laptop. I'm like,

who do I think this is? And I am. This is where I get resentful because I feel like for the amount of surveillance that's on me, they could give me some career advice.

Right. Yeah, just to be like, you know, there's a little bit more efficient ways to use your time based on the hours of surveillance we've, you know.

We just feel like this decision you're about to make, you're entering into just like one more pilot kind of program. Yeah, exactly. You do this often. It's like,

are you just kicking the can down the road? You know, like what's, what do you really want to do? What's's like, are you just kicking the can down the road? You know, like, what's what do you really want to do? What's going on with your book? Love the NSA. Signed NSA. Finish your memoir, Zara. Signed

NSA. Wow. Thank you so much. Zara, it has been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Always a pleasure to be here. Where can people find you? No, I'm serious. This is the most fun I have when I leave here. It's going to be hard. Well, you find you? No, I'm serious. This is the most fun I have when I leave here. It's going to be hard. Well, you know, we'll get some candy corn.

Yeah. Thanks. And a T-Rex armed and on. Yeah. Please. Yeah. Please do find me. We will. Hope. ZaraComedian.com Z-A-H-R-A If you don't type in the H, you can't find me. And where I am alone, it's not fun.

ZaraComedian.com. Dot com. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes. All of the ones about the blackouts, actually. About the blackouts? What, the PG&E ones? Yeah.

Are there new ones? Yeah, I mean, well, because it continues to happen in the Bay Area, so I've been paying attention to those. My family's in the Bay Area. Right, right, right. Has it affected your family? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty bad up there. Yeah. They don't have power in the, like,

lights powering the grid in the streets. Yeah, but then they'd have to, like, invest money into, like, their faulty, like, transmission towers and things like that. I know, and they'd have to invest money into their faulty transmission towers and things like that. I know, and then you have to take it away from the people with billions who are actually holding onto tax dollars. Yeah.

It's so complicated. But that should really fall on us, the working people. I know. We need to get it together. I'm so sorry, PG&E, actually. That's my take right now. I'm going to sign them candy corn from my butt.

They're like, we love it. Damn it. What'd you put in here? Damn it, I forgot. My ass is delicious. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Also, new podcast alert.

New show coming out called 420 Day Fiance. Myself and Sophia Alexandra. You know, it's an elevated discussion, as we say, of our favorite trash reality show, 90 Day Fiance. If that wasn't clear enough in the very clever

title already. So check that out. Trailer's out. The show will be coming out actually very soon um tweet that i like comes from uh alex lee at alex underscore c underscore lee someone younger than me reminding me of the year they were born rude disrespectful not funny at all. Me doing it to someone older than me, cute, precocious, I'm a widow baby. Baby voices are the best. That's stupid. Side note, I love Sophia.

Tell her I said hi. Oh, you do? Yeah. I will. Oh, you do? You love her? Yeah. Why don't you marry her?

Wait, are you starting a podcast with her too? What the fuck? You're just like trying to fucking fuck everything up for me. Why don't you podcast marry her? I mean, you starting a podcast with her too? What the fuck? You're just like trying to fucking fuck everything up for me. Why don't you podcast marry her? I mean, you just like, you have really good partners, Miles. Yeah, but I just don't know how to keep them. All right, I got two Disney Plus tweets that I've been enjoying. Disney Plus?

Because I'm three days late on that shit. Josh Gondelman tweeted, I accidentally signed signed up for disney minus and it's just the scenes where animated characters watch their parents die uh frowny face and then disney minus uh average joe at jazz in my pants tweeted i don't know who needs to hear this but you don't love Disney, you just haven't been happy since you were 11. Oh, boy. Ooh. Ooh. That's too much truth. That's true.

That's too much truth in a tweet. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien or not, whatever. Wow. He just realized 11, huh? 11 years old. Those were the days, man. It's been 28 years. It's been. It's been 28 years since I smiled.

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Binky. And the track is called Hey BB. H-E-Y BB. One word. Exclamation point. And you know what? The vibe is kind of like, hey BB. And because it's Friday, you know, we're going into the weekend. This actually has a good little, it's like an uplifting song. I mean, maybe I haven't really listened to the lyrics close enough.

It might not be uplifting. Instrumentally speaking, very great. We'll get your shoulders moving. The honey will return to your hips. Your toe will jump up through and shoot up through your big toe or in your boot. Your big toe will jump up through your boot. Wait, the bones will shoot up through the? Depends, man.

Big toe? Depends on, you know, what your toe looks like. Okay. Can't guarantee that the integrity of your toe will remain intact, but I will say

it will shoot up in your poop. Because I heard my dog only likes to lick my feet because he's trying to get to my bones. Get to your bones. Yeah.

And for anybody who knows if that is just something, a lie, I'm sure it is, just let me know because I'm going to a dinner party later, and I want to know if this is true or not. Hey, nice to meet you.

So, did you know? Hey, cute cat, you know they lick your face to know where your bones are, right? Anyway. Such a wild statement. But also, hey, congrats on your child being born. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. Did you know that, Miles? Oh, yeah, I knew that.

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