The Daily Zeitgeist - Ilhan to DNC: That It? Kamala Is The Pick (Deep Breath) 8.13.20

Episode Date: August 13, 2020

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 146, Episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, Fuck the Koch brothers. Fuck Fox fox news fuck rush limbaugh fuck buck saxon fuck ben shapiro hey fuck alex jones call a doctor fuck tucker carlson uh it's wednesday august 12th 2020 my name is Jack O'Brien aka I said Miles Miles Miles this kitten shows thigh babe

that is courtesy of Chrissy Yamaguchi main that is gross uncomfortably sexual for my taste but I'll go with it and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray!

Look, I need a Arteta. I need a Bukayo Saka. I need a Nicholas Peppa. I need a Granny Jaka. Okay, now, for people who don't really care, that's all Arsenal players. Shout out to the number one club in North London. Actually, London, the UK, Europe, whatever you want to do. But thank you to AtFreshFrankie for that.

I should have just done the Ben Shapiro voice, and I'll do it again. Nah, forget it. But thank you so much for that. WAP-inspired, a.k.a. Wait, they're number one, like, in terms of fans. Come on, man. Don't go there. They didn't win the league.

No, Liverpool won the league. Liverpool will say, and, you know, all respect to Liverpool Football Club. I was genuinely curious, so somebody who doesn't follow it. It's like a fan, you know? I root for them passively. It's like how, yeah, no, no. I'm definitely sober-eyed when I look at my own club.

We're trying to get on the way, on the men, on our way back to Champions League football. But that's a whole other podcast that people think. Alright. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the brilliant. He is Mr. Aaron Thorpe, a.k.a. Posada's Trap God. There he is. Hey, what's up, y'all?

Thanks for having me on. Oh, thanks for being here. Thanks for coming on. And again, apologies for when I butchered your Twitter handle when I called out your tweet that I was loving. Love your tweets and stuff. So, again, another great moment on the show when we go from seeing people we like on social media and be like, will they do the show? Look them on.

They got a mic. Great. Let's do it. Hell yeah. I got nothing but time, man. So I am unemployed right now. So I'm thankful for y'all having me on. What part of the country are you coming to us from right now?

The dirty South, Atlanta, you know, hot Lana, ATL. Yeah. Hell yeah. What's it like being a communist in Atlanta right now? Oh, I mean, like, actually, there's like a history of like leftism in the South. So this is the birthplace of the civil rights movement. So it isn't completely alien but uh i definitely like you definitely keep our circle close you know what i'm saying yeah sure sure

giving this whole anti anti-police brutality kind of movement especially down here it's uh you know seeing a lot of comrades yo so it's good yeah cool nice uh all right we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. As we mentioned on yesterday's trending, Kamala is the pick for vice president. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Ilhan Omar. They came for the establishment Dems. We'll talk about how well that went for them.

We're going to talk about planners, marketing departments, just the storyline they've got going. With the stupid baby peanut? With the baby peanut. Yeah. He's 21 now. Let that shit go. And we'll talk about the fresh Prince of Bel-Air becoming a drama.

All of that. Plenty more. But first, Aaron, we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh i mean given the whole kamala svp news my last search history from like maybe like even 30 minutes ago man was kamala harris record yeah that was the last thing that i looked up so uh she put something out yeah she put out another locked her ass up nah she put out another policy uh in joint statement with joe biden about how you know you get your student loans forgiven if you are a black person who has started a business within a black community within the past three years and your credit score is above a certain amount.

That's what that's what she did. Oh, so great. So very broad sweeping proposal that many people can enjoy. Yes. Big tank constituency. You know, the Democrats. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. You on social media, you were talking about how you were trying to reach out to her dad right yeah actually yeah her dad um i don't know if people know this man it's it's kind of like the same thing with pete budaj's dad where her father is actually a marxist uh professor or he is a marxist and he's a professor at stanford university and he has like this scathing ass like denouncement of her talking about how their Jamaican parent grant his Jamaican grandparents would be uh spinning in their

graves if she knew if they knew that she kind of like co-opted the the stereotype of the pot smoking joy-seeking uh Jamaican so wow so yeah man it's uh it's always interesting to see like how how the apples fall from the tree like that. And they're just like, some parents are like, what? But I thought I raised you differently. Yeah, yeah. Only to find out that your daughter is not about it. So, yeah.

Hopefully, he'll come on my podcast. I sent an email out to him, but we'll see. It's a long shot. What's the name of your podcast? Where can people listen to that? Vanguard Army. It's at Vanguard shot. What's the name of your podcast? Where can people listen to that? Vanguard Army. It's at Vanguard Army Pod on Twitter. Nice.

And that's like, yeah, for a zeitgang who don't know, that's covering leftist politics in North America. That means Canada and the US. Yes, it does. Yeah, so it's for international listeners too. Maybe in our second season, we'll get a Mexican co-host on. We'll see. Yeah, right? Yeah, like do the NA nafta fucking revenge show pretty much yeah part two yeah

and as uh our listeners know we cover the dr pepper shortage both from a american and canada or a u.s and canadian point of view because we had a canadian on yesterday to talk about that pressing issue so as as an at alien i have to have to stand for a coca-cola man i'm sorry yeah oh really that's all good but what that's the that's the holy water of the south man it used to have cocaine in it too yeah that is how they kind of got their their head start i think above other because there were like thousands of uh tonic like sodas that were out at that time uh during were people like odn off cokes bro yeah yeah they kind of were they were called a dope and there were places because it was all fountain sodas at that time or for the most part it was fountain sodas and there were places

where you would go and ask for an extra strong one and they would double up on the syrup so you were actually getting high from the strength of the pour there. It's like how heroin used to be like

cough syrup. For babies. strength of the poor there right well it's like how heroin used to be like um you used to like it's a cough syrup yeah right for babies it's funny because if you go to the coca-cola uh the museum or whatever it is it's like an attraction atlanta it's like the coca-cola center or whatever if you go there uh there is nothing in there at all about cocaine being one of the original ingredients in coca-c. So I just find that kind of interesting. You feel like that's integral, right? Like if you're just even explaining the etymology of the brand, like Coca-Cola, let's talk about that.

The Coca-Leaf. From the Coca-Leaf plant. Oh, whatever. All right, let's just get right on. And I mean, it was made by a junkie. John Pemberton was a Civil War veteran junkie who was trying to find basically drug treatment solutions via his soda tonics and was like, man, this works like fucking gangbusters. And I got these ideas, man.

Because it was a different drug. And I'll get people who keep coming back for more. It works. It works out. He's like, man, we should start a little club or something, like a theater where they only do stuff like that we like. And man, you got start a little club or something, like a theater where they only do stuff like that we like. Man, you got to fart too? It's like, oh, wait, that's pre-cutting it with laxative. We've talked about how shamelessness and narcissism

is the hack for American society in the modern sense. But from the start, putting addictive substances in your food or whatever you're selling is always, always, always going to be. That's when you see that growth that they're like, okay, let's get this shit up on the stock.

Babies getting heroin coughs there? Wow. Could you imagine that, man? Could you imagine the people coming back, like, banging on the pharmacy door while it's closed, like, saying, hey i really really need that yeah my baby's cough is real bad bro i don't know it must be colicky or something i don't know the baby's fucking shaking seeing i guess grown-ups crawling on the ceiling being like uh it's the cough syrup is straight up heroin y'all i don't know it can't be that though

for real though why does my baby keep nodding off into their plate of food? But a lot of it does come from the Civil War because heroin was first introduced as sort of a methadone for opium addiction, which opium addiction was a big problem because they were using it on the Civil War battlefields. Yeah, same thing with Vietnam, man. You had all these Vietnam vets come back.

It's almost like war is fucked up. It's almost like war is a drug in which you are given drugs to continue being at war. Right. Love to think about that. It's curious. What is something you think is overrated, Aaron?

Man, I had to think about this a lot but um i think streaming services are really overrated man like you pay for like the the criticism of cable was that you pay for all this content that you won't watch because of like the ad buys and shit right like if you just wanted to watch like sports and you had like a thousand other channels like you know about shit you didn't care about but then with the streaming services like netflix they have all these fucking b movies and c movies and like weird ass obscure shit that like i mean i'm only like watching netflix for a couple shows you know and by the time that you subscribe to all of these streaming services to get all the content that you want it's almost as much as your cable bill it is i was looking at i'm like i might as well have bought like nfl red

zone in 1999 under that kind of shit where you're like bro they got they got the fucking sunday ticket package there like and you're like they're paying 500 like that's almost what i look at all the streaming bills like when i stack them i'm like i'm the fool again like and so now i've i've had to really just think of like what what the the bare essentials are got rid of see i used to have hbo go and then i didn't transition to hbo max for whatever i don't even fucking get that shit i don't understand the difference i don't know what i'm using somebody else's account by the way so yeah and full disclosure i was too and they stopped paying for it so therefore i did uh so you're too good to use other people's account right you're saying you too you're too good to use other no no i said full disclosure i was using someone else's account that's why i don't have

it even though i said i don't pay for it but we all this is the parlance of our generation no one is really paying for streaming service thank you shout out to all our parents and wealthier friends you're be a comrade you lend out that password to somebody man yeah right i'm curious when that like striminal technology really hits though like because you know that's like the thing the streaming services are really trying to figure out how to like crack that nut of being like damn how do we keep this one person from getting it on like 15 different machines i know? I know, like, there's way, like, if there's, like, too many people streaming something at once. But to that point where they've really figured it out, we're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, like, what are we going to do next?

I don't know, like, FaceTime your TV? Nah, just go back to Pirate Bay. Just start, like, torrenting shit again. Except now they got Pirate Bay figured out in some places where... So it's Plex. You just got to go to Plex now. It's all in Plex. Just find someone with a sick plex server and you got it isn't that a thing that happens now that like if you pirate something they can like see by the spike and like

yeah how much you're downloading your internet service provider will send you a letter saying that you violated like yeah bro like i've gotten letters like that before and throwing them straight in the trash and kept like you know fucking torrenting like madman season four or some shit so right like do you really need this many ac alone mixtapes is that into rap like i need all of it man give it to me yeah uh what is something you think is underrated uh like because i'm online a lot man like i think that like social media um not as a tool for like organizing right but for shaping public discourse and as like propaganda i think that's underrated like you hear a lot from like blue checks on

twitter and liberals that like um twitter isn't real life but it really has an instrumental role i think in just building a consensus that leaks like outside of just social media you know what i mean so um like i think that that's sorely underrated now i'm not saying that like you know social media is organizing one-on-one but what i am saying is that if you have a platform um you know you can uh you can kind of galvanize and kind of incite people you know to uh alternative ways of thinking man i think that for the left especially we gotta we gotta remember that yeah right and i think you know to that point uh da baby uh the rapper came out you know to really challenge a lot of his followers into some really critical thinking uh with this tweet that he put out i would just like to read it really quickly he said

i'm gonna let y'all finish but you got me fucked up if you think i ain't voting for yay so yeah man yeah man i mean it's like you know social media man like what i just realized is like because it really is an echo chamber like there is that downside of it where like people aren't like entertaining uh viewpoints outside of their own but like for my purposes at least like that shit is dope yeah you know i don't even have to like i could just quote tweet somebody who's like kind of trying to troll me and i just have an army of people go after them

and i don't got to do shit right right right yeah i mean that's that's like the one uh the armor you have you got you got a lot of uh defenders that will come you know to your aid on on twitter the thing that's interesting too is just seeing a lot of people you know like the inability to actually have someone offer like a counterpoint that actually is objectively like it's worth considering but like it it also like reinforces to your point like this like really like i'm shutting like shit down immediately just because i don't agree with it i mean that's not for everyone but you see that that's like i, I think, a byproduct, too, of these echo chambers where you get in an environment that is the same thing enough.

Anything that penetrates that and begins to disrupt that, it's treated as a virus almost. It's like, get the shit out of here. It's like, don't try and make me aware of something now. I'm set on this thing. I'm not turning away. And I don't even use the platform to really try to educate people, man, because at the end of the day, like, I don't think I know it sounds like I'm, you know, like double backing on myself for being contradictory. But I really don't think that Twitter is like solely by itself an effective tool for organizing, but at least for building a consensus.

I mean, even if it's like to troll somebody who just has abhorrent heinous views right yeah um it's useful for that and you know that point it's just like dude i'm not gonna write a multi you know a multi-thread tweet about like why you should support this candidate or that candidate like you know it's i don't think that it's useful for that for that right for that level of like you know discourse but yeah man if you want to get some hot takes and like kind of shit on people and build a consensus like yeah it will rise to the top uh and it'll get attention and i was actually just reading this uh article in an academic journal called uh jurassic where this mathematician, Dr. Ian Malcolm, was talking about how chaos and small things

can have massive impacts. I mean, look at this, Jack. Just a little drop. Whoa. Now, watch where that water drop went, Jack. The little variations, the striations on the skin. Now, neither of those drops went either direction yeah and i just i just and i for whatever i just put my dirty ass hand in my cup of water and

smeared it on the back of my other hand so worth it totally worth it um yeah aaron what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false oh man dude like you know i just have to say just because of my political ideology like just the american dream capitalism like work like all of that shit is a fucking myth man and i'm not saying this is like the lazy you know communist who doesn't want to do any work i'm just saying like when you when you go to work and you get paid a wage, right, you have to understand that whatever you're getting paid per hour, that is just your boss shaving off like a minuscule like amount of the profit that they make from your labor. So if you make if you make eight dollars an hour, you know, and you work at like I used to at a breakfast spot. Let's say I'm flipping pancakes, man. I get paid $8 an hour on flipping pancakes. Each of those pancakes is worth $7.

Even if I make seven pancakes, just seven pancakes in an hour, that's $49, right? I understand that a portion of that goes to overhead, but people got to get the idea that you are being exploited by your boss. Yeah, labor is being absolutely exploited. Exactly. you are being exploited, right? By your boss. Yeah, by your laborers being absolutely exploited, right? Exactly.

Your boss, they are taking, stealing, like, you know, your surplus value, right? The value that you create from your labor that you'll never see back on your paycheck. And, you know, just, like, this kind of idea, man, of, like, what the American dream even means. You know, I just think that this is a... I mean, luckily, fortunately, this is a myth that, like, you know i i just think that this is a i mean luckily fortunately this is the myth that like you know the millennial generation my generation is waking up to see but just consider the fact that we have a socioeconomic system which which puts at risk our habitability on this planet for the personal enrichment of a handful of dudes named john like literally yeah yeah uh

by the way my real name is john so uh i can't you're on the list bro you're on i can't confirm no no yeah we're getting uh i'm i'm in with the johns and we're good but it does suck for y'all i can't lie i can tell you it sucks hey from up here man as a white john whoa whoa things are fucked up I'm gonna stay over here but hey for y'all I'll put a yard sign up rest assured

I see you I hear you and we're listening and I'm listening and I'm listening to DaBaby DaBaby is really cool I don't know if you heard that album that video though with the jabberwockies whoa uh i mean that was dope very i'm not gonna lie very cool that if joe biden came out and said that i'm like okay well maybe he's been maybe he has been in the lab a little bit yeah man if joe biden got endorsed by the baby i'm pretty sure we

see a significant uptake in young millennials black millennials i want to see him do a round table joe biden with dmx um dj premiere uh joey badass uh let's see uh andre and big boy i just want to see like kind of what that what that how that conversation goes joey badass getting there dude i met him actually i met him in real life in New York, man. And I met him at a bar once, and he was just, like, just looking really, like, cool, but out of it. I think he was probably, like, really high. And I was just like, man, I never do this shit with people that I'm a fan of. But I was like, yo, bro, I really like your music. And he just gave me the coolest head nod and just walked the fuck out.

Oh, hell yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan.

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I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, I'm a fan. I was like, head nod and just walk the fuck out on him when i used to work at a radio station and i met him because at the i really say jack the reason i put joy badass in there is because at when his first shit was coming out they're like this kid is doing like new york golden era hip-hop and he's like nine years old and everyone was like nah see everyone's on this like fucking mumble rap you know fucking trap rapper shit and he was like really coming like he was like i want to work with dj premiere like i want to use like old j dilla beats and like for

me and i think other old rap heads were like see this young man this young man understands he knows he knows what art is uh so i told that's so that's why i included him there because you know and also he was kind of interesting and i was surprised his performance in Mr. Robot. Yeah. Right. Oh, dude. Yeah. He was really good in Mr. Robot. Yeah. All right.

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We have chosen, you know, to co-op that energy, the former top cop of California. What the fuck? But look, you know, I think when we look at the DNC, you get it. You know, this party has never really been about the shit they say they're about. And it's all strategic. It's all triangulation. And you know,

again, I'm going to say off the top because people, whenever, whenever we begin talking about people, Democrats, everyone wants to get mad. This party is fucked either way. So I'm not, i'm not i'm

not gonna waste my time tearing down the ticket okay if you listen to this podcast you know where we're at you heard us during the the the race for the nomination you know who we like we don't like you know that we are definitely about like it's not fuck the party we're about what the what the purpose is because if the purpose is not about like full-scale liberation of all like like marginalized people that's then it's bullshit then it's not enough and i'm sorry that's what's the problem and i and look i'm not going to take anything away it is historic first black woman first asian american on the ticket as vp that's nothing to like to just just completely ignore but i think the thing that for for me, is I'm looking at

what is wrong with this country right now, and I think what many people feel, a lot of the remedies that are necessary, and we're still looking at a kind of politician in Joe Biden and Kamala Harris that have been sort of maintaining the status quo of all of the really terrible policies that got us to this point where we even reached an inflection point with all of the really terrible policies that got us to this point where we even reached an inflection point with all of these uprisings and things like that. So it's, that's my, that's my first exhalation around all of it. Um, but I think from there it's, it's really about, you know, uh, now that they're really having their eye on, okay, this will help energize the base from the DNC point of view. This is great because it will help turn out black women who have been like the core of the

Democratic Party. So that's, I understand that move that they're doing. She's going to, she's going to be great on the campaign trail. And, but then the other part that really, really makes me like not anxious, but like the thing that I'm dreading is just have to watch like the white supremacy Hulk smash conservative media machine just fully activate. And we see the exact same things that happen to like black and brown people, especially black women. That's going to happen to Kamala Harris, which I know is going to be stuff like, oh, I'm in that debate. She really lost control. No matter what is going on, it's going to she's going to be out of control. She's going to not be speaking.

She speaks aggressively. A lot of those she's going to be out of control. She's going to not be speaking. She speaks aggressively. A lot of those things are going to be dragged out. And, like, that's the other part. I'm like, oh, God. I'm, like, already exhausted just envisioning, like, how all of this makes people feel going forward. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, it's like, on the one hand, my family's from Jamaica.

So they are very excited about this. But, you know, Miles, you were saying it right before we started that, you know, skinfolk ain't kinfolk, right? And just because you are black or you're a woman or you're gay or trans or, I mean, it really, you got to look at a person's record in history and you got to look at the unique moment that we're in. I mean, Joe Biden, with the help of art segregationist Strom Thurmond in the 90s, helped construct the architecture of mass incarceration, you know, as, you know, a prosecutor who ruined the lives of so many, you know, black people and people of color. It just kind of is. And also during this moment, like you're saying of like uprising against like systemic racism, police brutality. racism police brutality it's almost like biden has or the democratic party has put progressives and black people in a conundrum where it's like oh so you're not going to support the first black women vp and it's like and that's what the democratic party does right it's it's you know this is not my my saying but the democratic party is where social movements go to die so how cynical are you to pick a candidate that um i mean

people were railing against like before you know the resurgence of this whole blm movement it's so cynical man yeah it really is it is and like again this is the other thing people are gonna hear this shit and they go oh these people just oh okay well trump's gonna win if you guys keep talking out loud like this i'm sorry this is not i'm not here to tell you to know who to vote for i'm telling you as a human being with my own personal history life experiences that have intersected with race uh like like dc politics and the like i have a worldview um and my worldview has been informed in such a way where I can look at the players that stand at the levers of power, look at the terrible condition in the state of the lives of working people, black, brown, trans, LGBTQ, everybody who is not a

cishet white person, life is already really bad. So if we're not talking about like full-bodied like addressing these kinds of issues it it just rings hollow you know and so on one hand you can have that big you know black tile energy blackout tuesday energy as a party or say you you're you know you're an ally of the blm movement but also at the same time you're not willing to examine the militarization of police and you're not willing to examine like or you want to say the second opponent says, well, don't talk about defunding the police. That's dangerous. And you go, OK, well, that's not what I meant. That's not what I meant. That's see, that's you have no purpose. Then you would just you went into it to be like, OK, how's this talking point going to do too hot? I don't believe it enough. And I'm such a politician. I'll dial it back as to try and just kind of maintain

and a lot of people are past that we don't have time for incremental solutions to these really deeply entrenched problems we have in this country and that's the thing that makes me cynical as a human being because I'm like we

continue to leave so many people behind and I want to yeah well well i just like real quick like i just for people who are like well aren't you concerned about defeating trump like kamala harris like you know when she was the attorney general she failed to prosecute steve mnuchin's bank for um you know foreclosure violations in 2013 if if if she had and you know this is to say that the the role of a prosecutor in this country is is not at all progressive it's it's not really meant to hold powerful people accountable but if she had done her fucking job maybe we wouldn't see steve mnuchin in the trump white house right now yeah right well and i think

this is where part of me almost wants to zoom back further right because i can't even place this directly on joe biden or kamala harris is like on them because this is just the system that these people enter and they they know they willingly enter it and we have to be sort of objective enough to be like this the thing that that system is completely fucked up like no matter like you enter it it's just gonna chew you up and spit you out or you're gonna get in there and you're gonna completely lose yourself in like the pursuit of staying in office and just like clockwork the racist bullshit attacks began fuck the second it was announced like trump fucking just me is like he had a tweet the suburban housewife will be voting for me they want safety and they're thrilled that I ended the long running program where low

income housing would invade their neighborhood. Biden would reinstall it in a bigger form with Cory Booker in charge. Didn't even spell Cory Booker's name right. So he knows he's losing white women's support in the suburbs. And this is a nice throwback to the 60s where he's talking about the suburban housewife, you know, asking again, the constant gardeners of white supremacy, because like white women did it very well in the 60s where he's talking about the suburban housewife you know asking again the constant gardeners of white supremacy because like white women did it very well um in the 60s please come back like let me hopefully i can use this language to re-inspire you know that to come to my defense please and he continued this nonsense even on sean hannity later and he said a lot of

people think it's a dangerous choice i think she is the most liberal person supposedly in the senate yeah yeah i mean and like i mean dude at the end of the day man it's just about like you know what do you see is like progress right and how much longer are people in this country going to be forced to decide between the lesser of two evils and i really don't mean that lightly. People want to ask, want to talk about how we got where we were. How about we talk about the eight years, the eight years of the Obama administration, right? And the failed neoliberal policies that left so many people behind at a time when we were meant to believe that we were a post-racial society, especially after Bush, that things were going to get better. And like the fact that we are here at this point with Joe Biden, a dying man as the nominee of a

dying party. I mean, that says a lot about like the people in power and how much of a shit they give about us. Right. Yeah. Well, yeah, the policies tend to just benefit their own more than anything. And it's like almost like two dying parties now going toe-to-toe and then like there's meanwhile there's an entire you know millennials and younger are looking at looking at this whole thing like what the fuck is this like we don't have like y'all keep talking about the stock market and the the gains and shit like that like meanwhile the wealth accumulation the ability to accumulate wealth for general for millennials and younger is just like gone oh yeah so like we're not even dealing like the same sentiments that they try and appeal to with like a lot of the rhetoric and things don't even like like resonate on a certain level because

we're more like man all i'm seeing is a lot of suffering and like i know a lot of people who are not supported and i at the very least like can we can we can we figure that part out too yeah yeah i mean like especially for the democratic party in considering like their base, right, of younger people. I mean, you have this ups, you have this upswell of like, you know, millennial socialists, democratic socialists in Sperney. And I don't really think that the Democratic Party is thinking about their viability in the future. their viability in the future, right? With appealing to these people who are, I mean, like myself, but even like the younger generation who are going to come of age during a time when they're in debt, at a time when, you know, climate change is going to be, I mean, we already see it wreaking havoc at a time when wealth and income inequality will be, you know, skyrocketing. And

what is your solution, right, right to this to have faux progressives like people who have horrible records to come on and say all right i now have the change of heart and mind to represent you and we hear you we see you but it's all performative right it's not rooted in people's actual material needs and again yo i'm not taking away the fact that this is a historic moment but didn't we say that with barack obama that it was a historic moment and where the fuck are we now right yeah it's since since i've been been alive like for for the last 40 years there has been no uh there's no like there you have the right wing party that has the conviction of its racist white supremacist beliefs and then you have the democratic party which is all about triangulation

and calculating and just you know figuring out strategically where the next best move is so there's nothing anchoring anything to the left. And that has ended up with everything just gradually moving further and further right until now we have an actual fascist party. That's the party with the conviction of its beliefs. And then the Democratic Party is just actively trying to triangulate like they just never they it's always about like you said it's short-sighted it's about what the calculation is this time um yeah but it should be about like really looking at the state of our country and just acknowledging shit really that's really what it is it's it's like so many so much of like

american politics is just about avoiding the acknowledgement of like just the widespread uh disparities between people and their ability to to live a you know a seemingly stable and happy life according to the american dream but again it's just more like we're just indoctrinating people like the american dream is like suffer and then you might hit it big right yeah that's right yeah it's just the you know i mean you gotta suffer though you gotta when they're designing when they're designing apps like one of the most important things that they build in to make something addictive like a a phone is randomization and the ability to randomly get lucky and turning games into a slot machine.

And that's why American society has got us stuck in this cycle is because it has that kind of... That is designed into the DNA of the system. But, I mean, if you want to see how allergic the DNC is to actual, like people with actual convictions, look what they did to the squad in these primaries. The most exciting, the most energetic part of their base, like the most energizing thing thing to happen to the democratic

party in the last you know 30 years yeah uh is bernie and these women and these women uh they they tried to take them out i mean they like some of it's it's not all got primary everybody got primary they weren't getting in the way of yeah they're not clear all got primary dude everybody got primary they weren't getting in the way of yeah they're like okay what got primary by people who are way more in line with what the mainstream democratic party would the guy who ran against ilhan was some like a meditation lawyer but let me ask y'all though like my like my whole theory, man, is that I don't actually think the Democratic Party is trying to win. Right. Like it's easier to be the opposition and stand like against something than to stand for anything at all. to say, well, we couldn't get these policies through because the Republicans wouldn't let us. We see this in New York. Angie Cuomo, governor of New York, is famous for doing this,

for colluding with the, I think it's the IDC, the Independent Democratic Caucus, which is like these Democratic state senators who have broken off from the Democrats. They caucus with Republicans and the New York state legislature. And what he says always is like, well, couldn't do this because, you know, the Republicans wouldn't let us. It's like, no, dude, you guys have the same corporate corporate donors and overlords. Like you don't want this to happen. And I don't really think that they want to win. Right. Like if you really wanted to win, you would at least like nominally, like, you know, ostensibly pivot left. Right. And make these promises that you have no intention of keeping. But Joe Biden, even now during a pandemic, is like Medicare for all like not, you know? Well, I think because it's I mean, yes, it's because if they I don't know if it's like really about like winning or not winning.

It's just about not going fully advocating for people, because if you didn't, then you up in upend this whole like corporatocracy oligarchical fucking system so in that way like i mean yes i guess it's sort of just the same coin where it's easier to just disingenuous be like well i can't do that like what if they're not going to vote what do you want me to do like get voted out and like really you want me to really just go for it as a politician and like really draw a line and say like, this is what I'm I'm not going to do that. That's not how it works, because then this will happen. Well, if you had a if you had a if the Democratic Party was an actual an actual party and not like this fucking exclusive club of like failed sons and failed daughters of people that wanted to go into fucking business, the business world, but they failed to do so if they actually like believed in like winning they would galvanize like you know the millions of like working people young people you know people of

color across this country the people who don't fucking vote right instead of like like like we see in fucking kentucky right with amy mcgrath like the uh democratic challenger to uh mitch mcconnell yeah right when when fucking charles booker which was an actual he was an actual progressive right and like i i think he he i think he might have even like out now you didn't know he out raised her but he got really really close yeah he did like the velocity was yeah he just went from zero to like 60 so quickly well because so many people saw like well mcgrath was like a sort of big d democrat and then you had someone who was more in line with what the

feeling was in the country of like this person gets it this person is saying like i'm trying to do it like but guess what though fucking amy mcgrath now is 17 points behind mitch mcconnell like oh like good fucking job you know democratic party like putting up this candidate that you know is gonna fucking lose but the thing is you know like and knowing this just from like working and lobbying things like that when you when your clients work in a certain industry you're gonna say i don't like this senator because he keeps talking about doing some kind of analysis on what the tax benefits are like you know what what pell grants do for my industry and i don't want that

so you're gonna have to figure out how to either get this person out of office do this or do so in in that sense like with amy mcgrath you have someone like uh you know a challenger coming up who you're gonna say oh this this threatens to actually upend my business because the things that this person is talking about means i'm gonna have to either pay more in this or receive less in this department and then it's now like get that person the fuck out of there because you just know like if they get too much power that affects my bottom line as a business owner and i think that's what let's go for the comfortable thing because at least mitch mcconnell like they all at least republicans bang

with business owners so like i don't care if i don't care about the suffering of marginalized people like but my my very narrow narrow economic existence, whatever, fine. It doesn't need to be a conspiracy where someone is saying, okay, let's lose this election. It's that they have priorities, and the first priority is, like we talked about, the one thing that stuck out to me from listening to the Pod Save shows

is they talked about how the very first thing you do when you're evaluating a candidate is look at the donors that they have in their phone book. You actually take their phone and go through it and see what kind of connections they have for fundraising. So funding is the top priority, and then you get into... The thing that should be the top priority and then you get into like the thing that should be the

top priority is like if you're just evaluating this as a meritocratic system like this dude has so much energy behind him he is like that is talent that is what political movements are built on and instead they just put all their all their weight behind the person who has, you know, the connections that they're comfortable with. But the problem is all these big movements ask for one thing, equality or liberation. And that is just not going to happen. It's fighting a system that's built to, like, prevent that. Right. To kind of like, you know, I don't know how many of your listeners are going to be familiar with this.

They're probably going to be hearing this kind of idea for the first time. But I know that they sense it right like you know lenin uh wrote this really great book on the state called state and revolution and uh marx has said this too i mean lenin is getting his cues from marx but i mean the state exists to mediate class relations the state exists to uh aid the capitalist class in oppressing the working class right i mean like this shit is literally built into the constitution it's even built into the ethos of the declaration of independence right life liberty and like the pursuit of happiness which was the pursuit of property right so i mean like you know i think that people really have to understand that like in in this system i mean electoralism uh for for whatever it's worth right and i'm not saying that

like i mean even me i have nuanced views right like i'll support down ballot candidates right but just understanding just understand that this system really is not designed to affect any change i mean my political science professor i was taking classes at georgia state said it best um this system prevents and the architecture prevents anything from happening anything bad but also anything good right so i just want people to really understand like um what what does it mean to say like we're backing a candidate like cory bush right or candidate like cory bush is one right someone who has come up through the working class at what point used to be homeless someone who's unabashed like in her lived experience as like you know a working class black woman and to say that she like unseated this like you know

dynasty right of like uh these establishment democrats i mean what that means is that at this time like people all across this country are seeking an alternative to like you know the the the dichotomy of the two parties you know and what it means to be a democrat i mean what does it even mean to be a democrat you know what i mean like yeah and i think a lot of people having that moment like I feel like where Democrats have been like, am I bad? Like, is it bad? Like, is the part?

I thought this was the good party. Because I think some people look at Democrats as like a binary and they're like, Democrat good, Republican bad, rather than being like, whole thing fucked up, but I don't have to be that. You know what I mean? And then people take it very personally when it's like talking about the party. It's like, but do you, hold on, because where I'm speaking from is a place of just like

do you agree with the sentiment that people who are vulnerable need support, that we have completely dismantled for hundreds of years the ability of black people in this country to move up socioeconomically, like completely, and if we believe that,

then let's, let's focus on that. Let's not get all this other language. Like, or this, like these, the part of like, I'm a Democrat or whatever,

but really be moving forward. And with the sense of just like, don't release that first, figure out what your values are as a human being. Do you think people, people shouldn't be able to live just because they can't afford it? Yeah. Do you believe that you don't believe that do you believe that it's fucked up that people should like they can't if you're seeking like a life-affirming surgery as a trans person that insurance company should be able to be like yeah i don't know like fuck that i don't want to spend

the money like do you think that every person is a human being that deserves a certain amount of dignity like just in general then like let's really think about that too because it doesn't have to get completely co-opted with like the sort of party stuff that you know we just were used to looking at like american politics through well i mean like it's it's like somebody today said to me um somebody today said to me online that uh this fucking fucking guy, yo, like people like that are really online on the left know him. He's like a K-Hive, like Stan, whatever. Like he said that he after all my tweets, he recorded this video because that's what he's famous for recording these like rants. Right. And he was like, oh, come debate me.

Come see me. Posada's trap. God, like as a black man, my job is to protect black women. And I was just like, bro, shut the fuck up, man. Like, if your job is to protect black women, what about all the black women whose lives were ruined by Kamala Harris's policies? The problem with liberals, man, is that they talked about how Bernie supporters were entertaining a cult personality. But that's all these fucking people do right these people literally want to elect someone who they feel could be their teacher their best friend their fucking therapist their soccer mom and they don't give a shit insofar as like this person's

policies yeah what that means for people who are not them exactly dude and it's like motherfucker like yeah i was a bernie bro you know what like bernie disappointed me you know i supported him he disappointed me but i don't he's just a vessel right for these ideas he's not like some fucking god that i can't criticize and the fact that these people like they're they're idealist is what it is and i don't mean idealist in the sense that they're hopeful. It means that they think that all the circumstances, like, you know, everything right now, history and the current predicament that we're in is motivated by ideas, by people with great ideas. I'm a materialist, right? That doesn't mean, like, I hoard shit and I buy shit. But it means that, to me, history is motivated by material circumstances. is a class struggle it's about power it's about resources so i don't you know like i really

have to question these people and their commitment to any sort of liberal like emancipatory emancipatory movement yeah right so well i think that's what the thing is it all the love it all depends on your level of engagement because some people engage with it just so they can have a side to be on and argue with people and you are in your side by side with people who you know need help and you know like they're going to go home to a place that is has no electricity hot water and this is fucking america and the richest country in the history of the world yeah and just dealing with it that makes me sick like i don't like that idea is really fucked up like as a person i you know it's idealistic but i just feel every person deserves just a certain base level of stability and caring due to that exactly that's it that's it and how we get there i don't know how

we get there but i know that's the thing that's like move that's that's the reason i get on this mic that's the reason i'll just i'll say whatever the fuck i want to but that's the thing that's like move. That's the reason I get on this mic. That's the reason I'll just say whatever the fuck I want to. But that's where I'm coming from. I really believe that every single human being, they deserve the same fucking shot. And they deserve the same place to start from. But when we're not dealing with it and you just get caught up in like, oh, go off, queen, in your kente cloth. And they were kind of what the fuck? No, I'm talking about youngente cloth and the rotunda. What the fuck? No.

I'm talking about young kids getting fucking murdered by police and there's no fucking justice. I don't give a fuck what someone is wearing or whatever the fuck because that doesn't reverse time and make the bullet exit this child's body and breathe life back into their soul. That doesn't happen. So if we're not talking about shit that's preventing all this real dark shit then we get lost in all like you know the fucking circus of politics and that's where it's that's where people just get distracted and that's what's disheartening it's like you get so caught up in like what

you know i said about your favorite politician but what'm, you're not seeing the anger that I have for the situation that people are subjected to in their day-to-day lives. It's not about Biden or Kamala or Barack Obama. It's the fact that people don't have shit

and no one gives a fuck and then the richest people continue to do so and there's just no problem with that. Well, like, that being said, man, man like welcome to the club of comrades man this is why like so many people are fucking mad online dude because it's like y'all care more about aesthetics right than like actual like materialism right like what like what what does anyone think that joe biden right a candidate who is you know a co-architect of this whole system of mass incarceration? I mean, someone who they used to call him the senator from MBNA.

Yeah, I think it was MBNA, which was like a like Delaware apparently is like a haven for like insurance companies and credit card companies, right? And they used to call him the Senator from MBNA, which is one of these credit card companies. I mean, given this fucking history, like why the fuck do y'all think that at 70 something years old, this motherfucker is going to have a change of heart where he's going to be like,

you know what? I really do think black lives matter. And I'm willing to defund the police. No motherfucker. He wants to give them millions of more dollars, yo, so they could continue terrorizing communities. So like for all the people out there like getting upset i'm just asking you like yo how about you check yourself and your own sense of like privilege and history

right before you fucking come at me or anybody at all who's saying like well maybe we could do better and i'm not telling you what you do i'm not telling you what to do i'm just telling you what you don't have to do i'll put it that way you know all right they're very yeah just just take a look please just like just take a second to breathe i'm not i'm not invested in donald trump winning i'm not a russian fucking rabble rouser asian provocateur or some shit i'm a a man of color living in this country who has seen the lived experience of my my black african-american family what their life has been like in this country to a japanese mother and what her life has been like on the other side of u.s imperialism and fucking world war and shit like that getting nuclear bomb i've just i that's just what i grew up with i didn't i didn't see a movie to inform my opinion

i heard from my grandparents how horrific shit was on both sides and i go oh my god and i would see my grandparents cry that that's that'll fuck you up as a kid and you go oh my god man i don't that's a bad world to live in why because of this because they just needed they wanted to sell more x product in this place that wasn't vibing with the, and then you, then you start, you, you, you start yearning for something better and that's all it is.

Just something good, man. Something where you don't have to look at the suffering and just be like, well, maybe the people in, and like, maybe there's some legislation that'll get us out of this. It's just,

it's just, there's a lot of darkness. And I feel like we need to, we need to be able to be able to see it for what it is and not get offended by the fact that shit hasn't been done but say you know what shit hasn't been done but fine let's do something different now and not get too caught up you know like don't have all this liberal guilt like the new white guilt like well i didn't i didn't vote for mass incarceration and i didn't i'm not saying you did but please but please look at the people we are empowering and what they do because you might not be on the other side of

those guns being drawn at you because you you were getting attacked and the police just thought you were the suspect because your skin was dark you know like you don't you don't that that experience might be different from person to person but at least have the ability to see like, oh, wow, if this person doesn't support the right of, you know, let's say like, again, with Kamala Harris, trans prisoners who are asking for surgeries. You know what I mean? What that experience is like for that person.

Don't just obscure that experience for someone. Try and say, what if I was a person who was struggling? I needed this thing that would affirm my life, my of self and it's going to make you human that would make you human man yes and i think as a funny aside man like uh i just think that like the people thinking that she's going to crush mike pence in the debates and i just want to like i might tweet this shit out later man i just want to redirect people to the time that tulsi gabbard which is a candidate that i did not support and still don't support um just tore her apart with her like record as a prosecutor and i'm gonna ask you if you don't think that mike pence and trump have a have a dossier on this woman yo

and like everything that she's and they're going to use it cynically mind you but i mean yeah just when the announcement came out i was like watch they're going to be like i mean she she absolutely refused to prosecute killer cops i mean what what are you going to do about bro y'all give a fuck y'all give a fuck now dude i i've completely kind of checked out to be honest out of presidential politics just because like i think that that shit should be abolished anyway the presidency man it's just kind of just fucking insane but like even so like you know i i would have rather prefer i would have preferred to see somebody like barbara lee right like i would have preferred to see somebody who's actually like a progressive but if you're going to put somebody up like Kamala, you have to consider how much ammo can be used against her.

And if this, especially for young people, young people of color, if this is the direction you really want to go right now and what that says to all of the people who have been crying out for defunding the police and saying Black Lives Matter. people who have been crying out for defunding the police and saying black lives matter and on top of that if you were saying defund the police and black lives matter and now you're like oh like fucking i'm with kamala you got to choose one motherfucker yeah can't pick both yeah all right guys let's take a quick break we'll be right back to wrap things up In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared.

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and and one more thing flavor of love let's get on that flavor of love season one yeah season two don't nah bro like nah yeah they were wound uh but you know shout out to peaches the the whole thing was like really interesting yeah like that show i'm just thinking like now you could not do that show like it's absolutely like the most you know uh aggressively like chauvinistic like women as objects who don't have real names uh and like you fight over this man show uh So it's like, I guess a more fun version of The Bachelor. But you know, it's hard to see that show, that kind of thing happening now. It is right now.

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Flavor of Love, it's like Harvard Business School, man. You know what I mean? Check up on these people in 15 years, man. They'll probably be running shit. Celebrity Harvard Business School. Let's talk Ilhan Omar real quick, just because this completes the cycle of... I'm so happy she just fucking mopped...

Handily beat him. Just destroyed this dude. It makes me a little bit nervous him just destroyed this dude it it makes me uh a little bit nervous that uh the mainstream media is so still so fucking like they're like she's in trouble uh literally every time one of the squad was up for a primary they're like she's in trouble this time well well now she's really in trouble and it's just like yo if you can win the seat that easily you can lose it just as easily right you know and it's not it's not because they're actually riding a wave an actual wave totally disconnected from any any energy any anything that's real about like somebody's a political movement um i mean but also isn't her district if i'm correct like her district is like heavily like somali american

or like you know with some um somali immigrants so it's just kind of like the fact that you thought that you could win i mean it's like the same thing with like aoc's district right which is like the audacity yeah like like you you've just never been challenged before right like why the fuck would you think that people who, like, look like this person and, like, are even from where she is from, right, why they would not vote for her? And you could come in and say, like, nah, y'all should vote for me because she's not the real deal. Like, get the fuck out of here, man. Aaron, he's crushing it in the endorsements game. And that is one of the first things that people care about when they go into it.

it in the endorsements game and that is one of the first things that people care about when they go into someone from the naacp the former minneapolis naacp president endorsed him therefore black people you know what to do yeah it's like what like we're supposed to just fall in line yo like no fuck out of here it's really but yeah and like it's funny because like when they talk to the constituents they're like they clearly have not been here. Because Ilhan is out literally in these streets. She's accessible. People know her. She's just like, it was more like a head scratch for me. Like, yeah, I guess they, whatever, fine.

And I'm sorry to that man. To some point, too, though, man, this shit happened with, God, man, I think it happened with Cori Bush and it happened with God. What's the other candidate? I forget. But it happened with a couple of black progressive candidates where they tried to do like, you know, these heavily racialized like, you know, opposition campaigns where they would darken the skin of like black candidates and all this type of shit like for fear-mongering like even democrats do it and it was just kind of like yo if if you can't make like people scared of like a somali american who proudly wears her job in congress there's no way you're gonna get you know i'm saying like there's no way you're gonna get people to turn against her yo because she's been there for two fucking years it's not gonna work yeah right yeah shout out to her congrats yeah seriously oh just a quick clarification kamala harris is not the first black woman to run for vp that was charlotta bass who ran uh and i think what was this over a half century before um yes so just yeah for the progressive party in 1952 so shout out to her so it's yeah that that's

why the media is always saying one of the main party uh candidates oh is that what they're major party major party yeah yes major yeah majorly fucked up did y'all see that tweet from john casey show like because the times erroneously reported that it had been the first time in a long time, some shit like that, that a man and a woman had been on a ticket or something like that. He pretty much, through Twitter, raised his pointer finger up

and was like, excuse me. People were like, motherfucker, we didn't even remember you ran. Not John Kasich. Tim Kaine. That's his name. Fucking Tim Kaine hillary's uh oh yeah yeah who looked like a batman villain or some shit like that man like but he spoke spanish that was the least human i've ever seen a human being appear in my life was his performance at the vp debate where he started speaking spanish and just like it was just the most affected like you

couldn't daniel day lewis if he studied for years could not have put that performance together it was so strange you mean besides so affected what's that you forgot about pete budaj man oh that's not fair people judge and fucking better or work who broke out spontaneously into spanish at the debates you know at least beto's felt a little more had a little more swag like has some otherworldly energy that's just like so synthetic that is it's like he's powered by a black hole inside like it's some other weird energy source like whatever like electrons or shit just the perfect hillary clinton choice but it's funny, when you see those moments where they'll just trot out. They're like, oh, I'm bilingual.

In case I'm not just a white guy. It's almost like Michael Scott is running the DNC in the office. Oh, for sure. And he's like, use a little Spanish. They're going to love that. And then you do some break dancing and let them know that you used to be a choreographer in an inner city youth center for a dance troupe. Okay, and then you'll do this and you know how to milly rock okay great and then you'll shoot a three-pointer it's like oh god all right let's talk about important stuff

uh planners marketing department is still doing that baby peanut shit uh and i think just as uh the daily zeitgeist we want to ask them to stop yeah just so that'll end just as the Daily Zeitgeist, we want to ask them to stop. Yeah, so that'll end, just off the strength of this Second Rate podcast. It is our official position that you should stop that shit. It's weird, and I don't like it. Wait, so the baby...

The baby's 21 now. Okay. Because, and they're... Then the baby fucking... Wait, wait, hold on. The baby's voting for Kanye. Wait, now we're talking about the baby fucking wait wait hold on the baby's voting for kanye wait now we're talking about the baby peanut from the baby peanut right and the but the last commercial ended with the old man dying and then there being the birth of a new baby peanut that was dirt that was baby was like hey it's me again because uh reincarnation is real and your Judeo-Christian conception of the afterlife is bullshit.

Oh, shit. Okay. That's it. Yeah. That was the subtext. How down or peanut sales for these motherfuckers to like, like nobody asked for this. Right. Nobody asked for this, yo. right like nobody acts with this yo i just the the world of marketing is the the strangest evil

most evil like just i wanna be like please somebody find the footage of the pitch for this of the pitch for uh just some of these ideas are so bad. Who buys peanuts though, regular? Like I like peanuts. I like almonds. I like nuts. They're great. Yeah. But like, I don't know.

Who's like the consumer that they're activating? Cab drivers, elephant handlers, people who are waiting in hospital waiting rooms. Bored baseball fans. But yeah, just like, you know what? I got some fucking peanuts. I'm going to eat these shits, man. I'm just going to show these things in my garage, yeah. But I mean, they're kind of, they're like salty protein pellets for the capitalist agent. Yeah, no, I'm not saying they're bad.

I'm just like thinking of like how, like who are those like real, you know, like, because I feel like my grandparents had like the one wild ass like barrel of peanuts that lasted damn near my entire like educational career right like that's like a one-time handle but like it's like i feel like i who who among us are the regular purchasers who are like yes planters no matter what you have my money my support now you know what gets me though bro is the people who eat sunflower seeds like yo first of all motherfucker if you are eating sunflower seeds in public especially on public transport and i see you get up and in your seat is like a pile of sunflower seed shells bro like

i'm gonna call you the fuck out that shit is human bird food you y'all need to stop eat a fucking sandwich eat like a steak like an action or if you're you know why but i likes it's like it's like the wing the wings of seeds where it's a little more interactive you know i'm just not like going for like you know if you if you like that weak shit then eat the fucking boneless nuggets okay get your shelled sunflower seeds i'll put a little work in but the thing is i'll never eat sunflower seeds like casually like it's always on a road trip or I'm camping or I'm outside where I know I can just be like... Just spinning them shits out everywhere. But yeah, I don't know.

I think that's like... Because I remember spending the longest time as a kid, I used to just eat the whole shit. You used to eat the whole seed? Yeah, because I had the... That shit is still inside you right now. How did you not get ulcers, man? I don't know man but you know uh my shits haven't been right for at least 14 years and so the whole thing with that

is like i just didn't have the like the technique to shell a p you know like because you would see someone like an adult eat a sunflower seed like what the like put that shit in it like yeah like like watch that all shelled yeah see you next year and then take off you're like whoa so it's like little specks of and i'm like i'm like still to this day like when i get frustrated i just i revert to like cave brain so like right if i'm like i remember putting curtains in i couldn't get the drill like the drill bit right i'm like fuck it i'm like just like smashing it so like with the sunflower seeds is the same reaction i was like i'm like how do i get that shit out of my fuck it i'm eating the whole goddamn shit it's a fine technique man you know

you ever stub your toe on an inanimate object and then hit it beat the shit out of it yes you man oh yeah i knew that shit up throw it out the window. Yeah. I'm on my fourth bed. This week. Yeah. Or I'll be like, oh, or I'll be, I'll do the thing where I'll be like, I'll stub my toe and I'll just look at it. And I'll be like, okay, next time I see you, it's fucking ugly, bro. So if I see you in these streets, it's all a sight. And then Her Majesty, my partner, she'll be like, why is the bed frame on fire in the

alley? I'm like, I don't know. Must have fucked around and found out. You didn't do that? No, I think the bed found out. The bed alley i don't know must have fucked around you didn't do that found out the bed found out what fucking time it was my four-year-old has grown out of that phase already like he used to hit things when like he was banging his knee on it or something and now he's just like kind of laughs it off and i have not

we could all learn from him does he do one hour therapy I mean he meditates for three hours every morning so he's and he's levitating and shit too but keep that up yeah he's pretty good alright Aaron it has been so fun having you man where can people

find you and follow you people can find me on Twitter at Posadist. Not Posadist. No, I'm talking about you. Posadist Trap God. Also, too, if I go real quick, man, I'm a part of an independent black-owned media network called Resistance Noir. I don't even know how to spell that right now. I don't know if you guys can put that in the show notes or I can, like, whatever.

Oh, yeah. That'll be in the show notes or i can like whatever oh yeah that'll be oh yeah yeah it's uh it's a black uh independent media network where you know man like we're just trying to like speak to uh black folk it's for but i mean anyone could listen to it but it really is like kind of a little space on the on the internets um you know for fellow uh black comrades or just for anybody who wants to engage with more radical black content because it's sorely missing in the leftist mediascape. So you can check that shit out too. Yeah, check it out.

Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, hell yeah, dude. So I saw this tweet, man, from Benjamin Dixon. He's one of my favorite posters and this was the 10th so it was like two days ago he said no one absolutely no one

absolutely no one throughout all of time and space Ben Shapiro quote personally I prefer dry ass p word I thought that shit. I wanted to do the Shapiro voice, like Miles, maybe. Personally, I prefer dry-ass P-word.

Yo, that's too good. It's more trustworthy. I can trust. When it's dry, I can trust it. You don't know if it's wet. It's slippery just by. I think you guys get it. If it has the consistency of sandpaper,

I am with it. I'm with it. Don't worry. And, you know, I just... I pray for anybody who is with someone with a wet-ass P word because thoughts and prayers to you. That was good.

But yeah, that had me dying, so yeah. Miles, where can people find you and follow you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying oh i'm still thinking about ben i think everybody's still thinking about the where how ben shapiro's wife is explaining to him what is going on i still still think about that um find me on twitter and instagram uh playstation network so i'm occasionally at miles of gray uh also my other podcast if you haven't heard i do another podcast where i get and Instagram, PlayStation Network, occasionally at Miles of Grey. Also, my other podcast, if you haven't heard, I do another podcast where I get high and talk about 90 Day Fiancé,

that trash fire of a reality show with Sophia Alexander. So check that one out. Some tweets that I'm liking. First one is from at DrivingMeMaddy. It says, imagine thinking cooking is a feminine role. Just boil the water, Bradley, you useless piece of shit. Another one is from at yikeseth underscore. It's like there's like a quote tweet of a Fox 5 DC post that says,

school district says no pajamas for online classes. And she writes, LMFAO. What y'all going to do? Send me home? And then another one from at yes, at yes, Jamel just tweeted the casino need a UNO table. Man, that was mine. I think we all,

it's a good one. We all agree. I hate to digress though. Do you do the UNO strategy where you try and just build like the fucking satan hand to just like vaporize like where you'll kind of do one yeah like it's possible you fuck yourself up and you're like oh fuck they got two but i got five but if it comes to me and it's blue i could it's over for everybody just like putting all the cards down that's like the high i feel like of uno and i feel like if there if it was at a casino there should be modifiers for like come like whatever hand you come up with and you uno out of

like you you like multiply your pot by that so if you had a six card hand and then you uno out boom give me the chip yeah i'm gone take your chips i'm walking glad this vegas casino is still open amidst a pandemic and i salute you for not enforcing these draconian has anybody ever done like a casino that has like jenga and like shit like that that would be yo that'd be a tight ass idea right you know what like just mad kids games and shit that's the new like cottage industry given like quarantines it's like you have these like sort of low like kind of very accessible games but like people are betting big on it oh no you have these like sort of low like kind of very accessible games but like people are betting big on it oh no they got exactly they're not low stakes they high stakes as fuck oh it's only whales only whales only if you knock that in that jenga tower bro you're

gonna be in debt that's how we know we play 10 stacks a piece here with jenga fuck you talking about plus 10 stacks bro pulled out my blocks laid them shit on the table. I'm ready. You come with your own case. You have a case like a pull shard. It's like a briefcase that you open up. They're colored and shit like that. You're a veteran, dude. Damn.

Another tweet I've been enjoying is from Suki. He tweeted on the phone, Me, Dad, don't freak out, but I'm at hospital. Dad, you're a doctor. Stop doing this every morning. You can find me on twitter jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and our website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well well as the song We Ride Out on Miles.

What's it going to be today? I was just thinking about Radiohead. I was making a joke, like how I'm washed and just like one of these Radiohead music nerds. But I want to play a cover by Leanne Le Havas. She's a wonderful artist. If you've not checked her work out, my God. She's a fantastic singer. Everything about the song she does are so good they speak to me the instrumentation the compositions the people playing with her

always solid so she did a cover of weird fishes by radiohead and but she gives it that fucking soul that you know obviously look tom york has his own vibe but like nothing like liana lajava's taking it giving you a little bit extra so this is her cover of weird fishes do the youngs not fuck with radiohead i've seen like a few memes where people like it's like a trope of like older people bands or whatever but you know i don't give a shit like man i'm 29 i love radiohead man fuck that shit yeah i don't give a fuck. The bottom line is, I don't care. My life isn't affected by what someone else is. Our lives are so short.

I can only live a world where I'm engaging with the things that I like and not worrying about how that's perceived. That's your privilege as a younger person. Yes, we're doing that morally. I'm not allowed to. I have to study every morning what's cool with gen z uh as a 40 year old you get nervous yeah they're gonna find me no man they're like something wrong yeah like are pro kids still cool shoes bro like i am not even that much older than them man but i make

sure that i follow a couple gen z years just so that you got it because one day these motherfuckers are either going to cannibalize us in the revolution or in the climate apocalypse or are they going to start the people's revolution so yeah or they're going to come through yeah like the dothraki like from the shadows and they're like oh they came through thank god i thought they loved this yeah they're like ah we here and i'm like yes come zoomers come you're just as broke if not broker than us we have a shared vision of the future let us run forward oh no they gonna be broken that's why they're angry so yeah exactly that's why i say i can't get mad at them partying i mean like can only be i can only imagine what how you look at your future from that perspective hell yeah by the time you hit middle age, there's going to be beachfront property in Iowa.

So I respect y'all. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to you then. Bye.

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