The Daily Zeitgeist - I'm Five Foot Trend 10/8: JB Pritzker vs. Trump, Ted Cruz, MTG, Gov't Shutdown
Episode Date: October 8, 2025In this edition of I'm Five Foot Trend, Jack and Miles discuss JB Pritzker vs Donald Trump, a "broken clock is right twice a day" update, some consequences of the gov't shutdown and much more!See omny...studio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My name's Jack.
That over there is Miles Gray.
These are some of the stories that are trending on this Wednesday, October 8th.
uh jd pritzker has uh come through and and said uh that the reason trump is deploying troops to chicago
is because he has suffering from dementia i mean it's not the only reason too you know what i mean
yeah yeah yeah it's the impulse control there's that that that's been going around a little bit
you know we talked about how it was caught on a hot mike a democrat uh saying like he is unwell
and unhinged, and the speaker of the house,
Mike Johnson, being like, well, you are, you too.
And it seems like they've taken that that was not just a hot mic moment and they've,
they've taken this opportunity to be like, yeah, this seems to,
they don't seem to have a defense for this, not even attack, just pointing out of
what we are seeing in reality.
Like even like you see like a lot of more, you're hearing from more people who have
expertise in that area and they're like well based on just you know certain things like his
motor skills his impulse control his diminished vocabulary and ability to keep a thought together
I would say something I would say it's setting in something's up something's up man I have they just
need to look at the cool way he walks downstairs he's not bopping he does it cool and slow like the
big bopper himself Obama that's right does it cool and slow and seductive like uh Catherine
Zeta Jones in Chicago coming down
stairs. That's what he's actually
going for. And in case you thought it was because
he was scared of falling down the stairs,
you're wrong.
How are we feeling about Pritzker?
Because I know he definitely has
presidential ambitions before we get
into this particular story.
Bit of a bundle of contradictions.
Like he's a billionaire
Nepo baby. It's already disqualifying for me.
Just a billionaire.
Just, yeah, you're not quite there.
But here's the thing. Somehow,
and this twisted upside down
of a reality of 2025.
We'll take it, baby.
The billionaire hotelier Nepo baby
is the guy who's speaking somewhat forcefully.
I guess it takes a rich guy
to not be afraid of another rich guy or something.
It seems like it.
That seems like it is.
I mean, again, it's like a bad guy
from a Dick Tracy.
Oh, yeah.
But in the background,
he's not even prune face
or one of like the real,
the guys who get the real flat top,
you know, the sort of big time
Dick Tracy goons.
he's like always like he's a tertiary dick tracy goon yeah he doesn't he does not look like a
president uh but so we we've seen plenty of candidates who don't look like president uh do fine
like i don't know don't trump doesn't look like president yeah people are like what is it
you know uh pritzker's overweight and it's like well okay yeah and and what about our current
president uh he does seem to be one of the handful of people who are
are associated with the Democratic Party who, like, doesn't seem to melt down when you ask
them a straightforward question that they haven't seen the latest focus group testing on,
you know, like he just will, we'll shoot from the hip a little bit.
I mean, I remember, like, in the buildup to thinking there would be a primary, you know,
people were starting, like, J.B. Pritzker, you know, back when, you know, before 2024,
because he was saying things that were more like, you know, he has a little bit more that
economic populist in him that seems to resonate.
Yeah, he's willing to say economically populous things, which I think people would like.
In practice, though, would he betray his own class?
That's the question.
Class trader.
Is he that FDR level class trader?
Can you be a class trader from?
Maybe.
But most anecdotal evidence would.
I will just say, like, at a gut level, I'm more confident in his ability to navigate
the next few years than a Gavin Newsom.
you know like gavin newsome seems like very very much uh focus group based yeah but he's also
just so transparently in it for himself i think it's different too like and i'm sure people
in illinois probably have a different like i think living in california we have a very very clear
idea of who gavin newsom is outside of like when he's making waves to be like he's being he's acting
as a foil to trump and i'm like yeah he also was scooping up like unhoused encampments acting like a
guy like that was a fucking net benefit for people right um so i mean at you look when we're dealing
with like who in the party you know it will will help us the fucking it's slim
the bar is the bar is on the ground uh but yeah so he is currently in the spotlight uh of the
administration's invasion of its own country and specifically his state in chicago and
this is what he had to say when asked about it uh said this is a
man who's suffering dementia, Pritzker said in a telephone interview with the Tribune.
This is a man who has something stuck in his head.
He can't get it out of his head.
He doesn't read.
That's a good point.
He doesn't know anything that's up to date.
It's just something in the recesses of his brain that is effectuating to have him
call out these cities.
And then, unfortunately, he has the power of the military, the power of the federal
government to do his bidding.
And that's what he's doing, which, you know, say what you will about.
phantilizing a dangerous president did seem to get under Trump's skin because this morning,
you know, Pritzker said that yesterday and this morning after Pritzker pointed out his brain
don't work good. Trump called for the arrest of both the mayor of Chicago and then like
threw in Pritzker like he was like adding mushroom to a pizza order. And he actually put Pritzker on
there for good measure. Yeah. He also said it yesterday at another meeting where he was
sat next to Tim Walsh and was asked like,
like, why is Trump, you know, like,
what's with these, you know, this use of the military?
And he gave the same answer again.
From the fact that he's out of his mind and has dementia,
I, I, yeah, it's, it's clear to me that he is targeting Democratic cities.
What goes on.
I mean, this is part, like, every, I mean, look, Gavin Newsom said it back in September.
This is a thing we're seeing people say increasingly more and more.
or even Senator Ruben Gallego is given Trump that D, as I say, by saying he has dementia
because he was asked by a journalist that, because Trump was claiming that he was like talking
to Democrats and like in the Senate to like, you know, try and end this or whatever.
He's like, they don't want to work with me.
And so Gallego was asked about that.
He said, quote, the president clearly has some kind of dementia.
So I think there's, he's probably talking to himself or thinking he's talking to a Democrat,
but I sincerely doubt that he's actually physically talking to a Democrat.
Wow.
You know what, in that recording of the Pritzker quote, I couldn't help but hear the sound of laughter, which I know Donald Trump does not, since his primary driving factor, his primary motivation for his entire life is the title of the Adam Sandler album, they're all going to laugh at you.
He's like, and they're all laughing at us.
They think we're fools.
Exactly.
They do.
We do.
We all do.
But, I mean, I think the other part of it, too, for people who can sort of look holistically at the situation is also that to have someone that asleep at the wheel like Donald Trump, like we've said in the beginning, it allows for all these nefarious goons to use his position as president to enact their own fucked up fantasies.
Like, whether it's Russ Vought with Project 2025 or Stephen Miller's like xenophobic ethno state cleansing campaign, they're all able to do this also because I'm sure.
just as easy as it is to get his attention elsewhere,
you can get away with being like,
yeah, let's do this.
And he's got,
he's not thinking anything beyond,
well, the people that I agree with say,
yeah, sure, I don't, yeah, yeah, I'm sleepy.
But I mean,
him calling for the arrest of, like,
the mayor and Pritzker,
like,
so I definitely saw some headlines
from, like, mainstream media outlets being like,
you know,
constitutional alarm bells going off,
which if,
if you weren't hearing them before,
I think you're medically dead,
but it is,
you know,
a thing that people are recognizing as,
it,
like,
it feels like,
I don't know,
there's a thing in sports
I talk about every once in a while
where like when you're rooting for one side,
and like you,
you want your team to do the thing
that the fans of the opponent,
like don't want you to do,
you know?
And like,
I feel like getting him more and more extreme on this.
feels like what Republicans don't want to happen.
You know what I mean?
Like, I feel like they're, like, this is generally unpopular right now.
Like, the invasion of U.S. cities is unpopular.
I don't spend a lot of time thinking about what mainstream Republicans want because
it's usually just like polite version of whatever Trump is saying out loud.
Right.
But it does seem like polling and sources inside Congress are like wishing Trump would like
cut it the fuck out.
Yeah, I mean, they need a win, you know, because I think that's really how they look at it.
Because at the end of the day, it's these senators and Congress people that have to go back and face people.
And they're the ones that are somewhat held to account.
Like, what's going on?
And they're like, but I'm also scared of the MAGA mob mentality.
So I'm going to have to just kind of lay low.
But I don't know, man.
This is the fucking bed they made.
Whether or not that actually leads to, you know, some kind of.
of maneuvering to actually oust him or have some kind of, you know, show of defiance. I don't
know. I mean, like, I think it's probably going to be someone who's thinking opportunistically
enough to be like, I can maybe keep this audience, but I just need to click it a few clicks this
way. Right. To get people to be like, oh, yeah, yeah. Like, let's, we're off Trump. This other
version that's Trumpy still feels familiar, but a little more articulate is maybe like how I see
someone feeling like they can rise to those ranks.
Because again, I don't believe for a second, there aren't people thinking that because
that's how politics will always work.
That's how power always works.
There's always someone who says, I can do it better than this fucking dude is doing it right
now.
Right.
And waiting and rubbing their mitts and trying to figure out when that moment is.
And they've been wrong up to this point, like, you know, the Ron DeSantis, but Trump definitely
seems diminished in many ways.
Yeah.
And I think you also need to something, you need to.
you need to offer something that feels different.
Like, you know, I'm not, I'm not giving them pointers, but like Ron DeSantis was just trying
to do a version of Trump.
Yeah, exactly.
You need something that to people, again, I think for it to click for the base to even think,
they're like, oh, maybe we'll move on to something.
Not to say that this is going to save the country or change the direction, but merely
who the figurehead becomes, it's someone who's like, it's like the, you know, Jesus,
for lack of a better comparison, like a Drake Kendrick thing where they're just sort of like,
well, we've been used to Trump this whole time.
If someone just kind of comes out and is like, dude, this guy for real?
Yeah, right.
Then I can see a group of people being like, yeah, actually it kind of sucks having to act like this guy is cool still.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think Kendrick should run for a Republican.
He's your primary Trump.
Yep.
I think that's our takeaway.
Just like during that Pam Bondi hearing, which was like mainly Democrats asking straightforward questions and her being like, you're a fair lawyer and shit like that.
But there was even, like Tom Tillis was even, like, pushing back on the, like, sending of troops and, like, National Guard to New York and California and Oregon and Washington State.
He was saying, I think it's bad president because, like, you know, mainstream Republicans like that are similar to the, like, Democrats where, where they're just looking at polling.
And it is, first of all, historically, it's been a bad look and unpopular to deploy troops on your own people who aren't doing anything wrong.
And then there is like specific polling that has come out in the past days, like 37% of poll respondents say they agree with a statement that the president of either party should have the power to deploy troops into states even when state governors object compared to 48% who disagreed.
So like it's unpopular.
No, yeah.
83% of respondents said the military should remain politically neutral and not take a side in domestic policy debates.
Um, so it's, I mean, even Ted Cruz, like, is, is turning into that, uh, broken clock.
He's doing the broken clock game. Uh, he is trying to pass a bill.
That would make it easier to sue the government for censorship, like, indirect response to the Kimmel suspension.
Right.
Um, because he fucking loves Kim. I bet Cruz loves Kimmel.
Oh, God.
I watch that shit every night.
You know, he does.
I mean, like, remember that epic one-on-one game they played a few years ago?
That's right.
And it was the worst game of basketball we've ever fucking witnessed in our life.
And Cruz won, right?
I think so.
I just remember watching them both a dribble.
I was like, God, what is going on?
Why is this a thing?
We're slipping into darkness.
It's like when they just have an actor start playing basketball out of the blue
before inserting the body double.
Oh, yeah, like those first, like they get the ball up top, put the ball one, two.
But they're looking down behind.
Cut to somebody driving to the hoop.
Yep.
MTG keeps clocking.
Yep.
Broken clock.
Broken clock and she contains multitudes.
Doesn't she fucks?
Rabid, xenophobe, homophobe, all the fobs.
And every now and then you get a reasonable take on something.
Earlier this week, like we said, she was open to working with the Democrats.
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But she is basically said, you know, like we talked about.
Earlier this week, the Republicans could end the shutdown.
One of their talking points is like, well, the Senate Democrats, this is a Schumer shutdown because it's like, you know, you can nuke the filibuster and blow up the 60 vote threshold and just get it over with a simple majority.
You know that is an option to you, the Senate Republicans who love rule fuckery in the Senate.
And she basically, like, kicked that defense out.
I mean, not that I don't know how many people are actually going to listen to what she actually said.
but she was pointing out, quote,
the Republican-controlled Senate used the nuclear option today
to override the 60-vote rule
in order to confirm over 100 Trump nominees,
yet continues to claim Democrats are causing the shutdown.
Spoiler alert, the Republicans in the Senate
can also use the nuclear option to reopen the government
and override the Democrats just like they literally did today
to confirm Trump nominees.
Damn.
Hmm. Huh.
But again, before you think she's...
She's fucking MSNBC talking head?
No, I mean, before you think she's gone mad.
on us. She's also melting down over the Bad Bunny Super Bowl show. She's got to throw that in.
One for me, one for them. Yeah, because, you know, I think he posted something of like America's got
four months to learn Spanish before the Super Bowl halftime show. She said, quote, bad bunny says
America has four months to learn Spanish before his perverse unwanted performance at the Super Bowl
halftime. It would be a good time to pass my bill to make English the official language of America.
and the NFL needs to stop having demonic sexual performances during its half-time shows.
Amen, sister.
She still sucks.
Don't worry.
Yeah, she bad.
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And, yeah, so one thing that is hitting the front.
pages all over. Oh, by the way, the shutdown very unpopular and is being blamed on Trump
in polling. And again, we generally ignore polling, but it is the thing that it's worth paying
attention to in the sense that you know that the, you know, lawmakers are paying attention
to it. Well, because they don't know any real Americans, so they rely on polling because
they don't, these regular Americans that do not interact with them ever and they have no
chance to interact with them. So yeah,
polling is their God. Yeah.
So I think that explains a lot of the,
is Trump losing his party
stuff is just, I mean,
polling, you know. I don't know. I'm not seeing any
Republicans revolt.
See, like, I guarantee he's going to
try and overturn like any
ability to have elections, but it doesn't
seem like these Republican lawmakers
have a clear plan
before them that's like, oh yeah,
we don't have to fuck with public opinion anymore
because they are at least responding
to it in theory.
But one of the outcomes of the shutdown is the massive flight delays that we're seeing
across the country, a big chunk of the workforce that keeps planes in the air are now
being asked to work without a paycheck.
And the FAA says they're seeing a rise in air traffic controllers calling in sick may not be a
don't pay me.
I sit on my ass situation like Sean, don't.
Goffey, pointed out that they're probably calling in sick to, like, drive Uber or, like, do
something else that will allow them to pay their rent.
Yeah.
I think he said pay their mortgages, but I think that's probably wishful thinking.
I guess it depends on how old you are, you know?
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, it also makes it extra clear how bad the politics were for Trump to, like,
I think he recently made a statement that implied there was no promise they will ever get back pay.
Yeah.
He's like, yeah, we're going to.
There's also people, like, poking holes in the, in the bill Trump passed in 2019 that allowed workers to get back pay.
He's there, like, there are people who have been like, I don't even, we interpret it as we don't even know if we even have to do that.
He's trying to poke holes in the thing that he passed to make it so that you don't have to.
So, like, these people who he's asking to work without a paycheck on the promise that they'll eventually be paid for the work that they do, because otherwise the fucking government, you know,
the civilization that is based on like air travel can't function he's like I can't think of a
more direct like I just I know it's kind of feels like 10 years ago to be like if a Democrat
did this people would be freaking out but it's true like it's such a direct fuckup for him to
you know like a direct fuck up that people are feeling like that is impacting people's
lives and safety on a very real, like, today basis.
This was a quote from him that I was referring to.
For the most part, we're going to take care of our people.
There are some people that really don't deserve to be taken care of,
and we will take care of them in a different way, okay?
Yeah, all right.
You're shitting yourself, guy.
Doesn't he sound like he just threatened to kill them?
I don't know, exact.
This is what, I mean, this is the other part of it.
It's like, well, even though they're even talk about like the shutdowns,
and things like that.
There are other really important things.
Like, he's sending the military into U.S. cities.
That's also where they're paying ice goons to kidnap American citizens
and separate children from their parents,
sometimes being stripped, half naked and zip tied,
like fucking kids.
Yeah.
And the thing, I mean, like, there's so much,
the problem is so huge.
Like, even to talk about this, too,
like, you're talking about a president saying he's not going to pay workers.
Yeah.
that are doing a function that keep everyone safe.
It's completely separated from political ideology when it comes to air traffic controllers.
Oh, they'll get paid all right, Miles.
In a different kind of way.
Paid back.
Pay back in a different sense of the word.
I mean, you know what I mean?
Did you hear like at Burbank, there was like a few hours where the pilots, there was no air traffic control?
Yeah.
And like, they were just like, old schooled.
They were having to like organize on their own.
They're like, all right, I'm next.
okay great because a lot of people are like when you learn how to fly like you're kind of doing that sort of little bit of you know coordinating like on the ground yourself yeah but this is this is only gonna i mean i don't know how this gets better the one thing is you know the last the shut down the one 35 days in his last administration it only got really he only really felt the pressure when the air traffic started fucking up and people were like dude we can't even fucking fly like what is this and that was one of the things that kind of brought him back but i
who knows this go around yeah and we got news for you it was already fucked up they were already being
asked to work inhuman hours for bad pay um because the federal government has so weakened the ability
of the union to work on the behalf of the people who actually do the work to keep people from
dying in the worst way possible yeah and even sean duffy even like the way he first
described the like the TSA air traffic controllers like you know calling in sick or whatever he was
sort of like you know hopefully the Democrats can end this shutdown before things get worse like what's
right what what are you trying to imply there yeah he's a Trump sick of fan too he's like
he's a situational Trump sycophant but yeah everybody everybody works for the same guy and uh
you god oh you'll get paid all right the other big issue that that came up in the bondie hearing
The MTG keeps referencing it is Epstein, Epstein files.
I want my Epstein feels.
Emstein files.
I couldn't rhyme it with MTV.
But yeah, where are they?
So that's another consequence is that they're still not bringing in the deciding vote that would release the Epstein files.
Yeah, Adelita Grahalva, like we said, she won a special election last month to take over
her deceased father's congressional seat and was saying like the second i'm sworn in i am signatory
218 to the discharge petition which can then force a floor vote on releasing the epstein files
okay uh and since then mike johnson has done everything in his power to not actually gavel in
the house for a session they've only been doing like pro forma sessions where it's just like really
quick it's like we're in we're out it's just just formal there's no no real votes are being taken
But the thing is, he's confirmed Republicans in similar pro forma sessions this year.
So there's not even an argument to be like, well, you did it for these.
He's like, well, no, this is a red herring, obviously.
Don't look into the fact that I don't, maybe don't have that many bank accounts or bank records that people can look into.
Just a very, I'm a very up and up kind of guy.
Totally.
So, yeah, like, I don't know.
This is just a very, I don't know, it satisfies multiple things.
You allow for Project 2025 to have a further grip in like just gutting the federal government
while also keeping the Epstein files under wrap too.
Now, I don't know like, you know, I think there's a lot of like magical thinking on in both
the left and the right about what exactly will happen as a result of the Epstein files being
released.
Right.
Because I think a lot of people are like, oh my God, it's going to see Trump all over that.
I was going to review all these terrible things he did.
We already know a bunch of terrible things he's done.
Right.
And that's not moving the needle.
So I don't think that these files being released will suddenly, and I could be wrong,
but I just don't, I don't think any revelation about his conduct is going to lead to the,
you know, the resignation that people think is going to happen.
Not that they're going to release on purpose.
It seems like they'll, they'll find a way to redact and cover shit up.
Yeah.
But, yeah, we do have him in, in a book writing.
a weird, sexually suggestive love letters to famed pedophile and sex trafficker.
And there's already all kinds of allegations against him.
Yeah.
And conviction.
You know what I mean?
Like, convictions, yeah.
This is, that's what I'm like, oh, yeah, trust me.
I don't, I don't need the Epstein files to know this guy is a, is a, like, a lecherous predator.
Yeah.
I don't need to know that.
But again, maybe, and in the same way, I think, like, for,
Republicans are people on the right, they're like, oh, man, and then fucking Bill Clinton's
going to go in like the Clinton. Like, yeah, fuck them.
Oh, my God. That's going to devastate. I don't know if we'll be able to publish that day.
If we find out that Bill Clinton was in the Epstein files, that would be the least
surprising shit ever, Bill Clinton.
The least surprising shit to ever have. I would be more surprised if Clinton wasn't in it than
if Trump wasn't. I know exactly.
I do wonder, because like on Tuesday, you pointed out in the doc that he was asked,
about a potential pardon for Gilein Maxwell.
Yeah, yeah, right.
It was just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll look at it.
I'll speak to the DOJ.
I look into it.
Like, everything you hear about him
with regards to the Epstein files behind the scenes,
him being baffled by people continuing to just bring it up to him.
Like, he, like, doesn't get it at all,
which, like, I talk a lot about this historical anecdote
that I think is so interesting that, like,
one of the main reasons the D-Day invasion was so successful was because Hitler slept in that day
and everyone was so scared of waking Hitler up because he was like on meth and really cranky
when he woke up in the morning and he was like, you let me sleep in tomorrow. And so like he slept
till noon as like this invasion was happening because it was just, it's the downside of like having
this like cult of personality dictator at the head of your.
entire shit is like people are just telling them what they want to hear and like kind of
walking on eggshells around them and like I wonder if we're kind of seeing that with
regards to that I've seen files that like nobody is being like dude you're all over these and
this is people are fucking freaked out and will despise you if like I don't think that has
reached him uh no no and I think also too he's
He doesn't, I don't know, I think he's just, he's never really been in that kind of legal jeopardy.
So in his mind, he's like, who's going to give a shit?
Yeah.
He's like, I'm fucking, I just get out of everything.
So why won't they just accept that?
I think in his mind, he's like, because I'm never brought to justice.
Yeah.
No one could possibly think ill of me because I'm not formally being brought to justice, even if some revelation comes out that would complete, not even completely change people's perception of him at this point.
But I think he just thinks he's impervious.
So it's just, it just doesn't connect.
He doesn't see the difference between this and the other ones where he's just been able to, like, move it along.
Yeah.
All right.
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