The Daily Zeitgeist - Immigration Explanation, COVID Commercials 4.22.20

Episode Date: April 22, 2020

In episode 614, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Shannon Coffey to discuss Trump blaming immigrants for coronavirus, the Smithfield pork plant outbreak, the problem with grocery stores, the Lieutenant Governor of Texas wanting to re-open the state, continued racism and problems at Lululemon, coronavirus era advertisements, a dangerous knife sculpture, and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump vows to ‘suspend immigration’ to US because of virus Smithfield Foods Is Blaming “Living Circumstances In Certain Cultures” For One Of America’s Largest COVID-19 Clusters Coronavirus at Smithfield pork plant: The untold story of America's biggest outbreak Experts say it may be time for grocery stores to ban customers from coming inside because of Covid-19 Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick doubles down on argument that people should be put at risk for death in exchange for a strong economy amid COVID-19: "There are more important things than living." LULULEMON APOLOGIZES AND FIRES EMPLOYEE Over 'Bat Fried Rice' Shirt 8 Outrageous Remarks By Lululemon Founder Chip Wilson Pre-coronavirus TV commercials make us cringe; new ads reflect a time of threat HERSHEY PULLS ADS WITH HUGS AND HANDSHAKES AMID CORONAVIRUS CONCERNS KFC ‘Finger Lickin’ Good’ ad falls victim to coronavirus concern along with Coors’ ‘Beer of Working Remotely’ WATCH: Every Covid-19 Commercial is Exactly the Same If every COVID-19 commercial feels the same, it’s because they totally are Knife sculptor doing aerobics falls on nearby knife sculpture WATCH: Marva Whitney - Unwind Yourself Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat out to Long Beach. You know what I mean? Love some sublime. Gotta love sublime. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Shannon Coffey! Hi!

Woo! This is my first time talking to other people in about a decade. Yeah, this is actually my first Zoom, y'all. Dang! I'm so excited. This actually my first Zoom, y'all. Dang.

I'm so excited. This is your first Zoom, Shannon? Yeah, it's been on my computer and everybody just FaceTime me. They just FaceTime me. Nobody wants to Zoom me, you know? Got it, got it, got it. I was like almost thinking, wow, Shannon has been like living this life

of like a monk of just completely, like, no, this is the first time I've even video chatted. No, I mean, I have been very monk-like, so you're not too far off on that, but we'll get into it, you know? You core in solo?

Solo core? Yeah, with my cat, with just my 18-year-old cat who is now the most demanding living thing I've ever experienced. She just wants direct uninterrupted eye contact 24-7. Like before she was like a lap cat. Now she's like, you and me are in this together.

And I'm like, you need to chill. I'm like, please. Mesmerism. Yeah, whenever I go to the bathroom. Has she started smoking now that she's of legal age? Oh, she's been smoking since she was about 11. Okay. Oh, wow.

Late bloomer. What happened? I don't know, but her lungs are good, you know? She's a forever cat. She's going to last another decade. Well, Shannon, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. The blame immigrants strategy has come in in full effect over the past few days at the start of

this week, really, both from the president and the White House and from the meat industry. So we're going to look at that. We're going gonna ask the question of whether we should close grocery stores or at least uh change the way that they function and we're gonna check in with that texas governor uh who's still horny for everybody to die for capitalism just wants wants you to know that he's willing to i think we should take him up on that. Take him up on it? Like, be like, yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah. You down to die for the cap. Yeah, yeah.

No, for sure. I mean, there are going to be opportunities. Like, they've talked about, we talked on yesterday's episode, I think, about there are going to be people who we need to get the disease to see if they can get antibodies. And be our strongest workers. Yeah. Lululemon is surprisingly racist, at least their art director.

We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about coronavirus commercials, what the new formula is for ad wizardry. But first, Shannon, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I looked at the last two things that I searched. The very last thing was cat screaming,

which was just those two words, which I think explains the panic and the sleeplessness I was in when I was googling it because my cat has just been absolutely like screaming like she sounds like like i'm squeezing her and then you look at her and she's just chilling she's just sitting there like hey wake up it's 4 a.m we got a jam and i'm like no you need to chill i like how you describe it as screaming too because my cats also do that and sometimes my partner her majesty she'll she'll hear them in the middle and i said what's that i'm like

just the cat's screaming the cat's just screaming no it's doing this because it's 100 it's not a yell it's not like a it's like no it's like actual like i someone i think is gonna knock and be like hey what's up with that little child you have in there? What are you doing to them? And I'm like, it's just bad. Knock it off with screaming. And then the other thing I Googled was how to pierce your own tongue at home. Oh my God.

That is such a good idea. I was like, maybe it's not that hard. I just want to like pierce everything now. It's so weird. I want to like pierce myself and like do you fucking weird shit what's what's usually like the is there a pattern where it falls into like you're looking in the mirror and you like touch your face and then you kind of get a hold of like part of

your face you're like hold on i could just i could just ram a needle through there yeah pierce that i think i just want like more stuff to look at maybe i'm just kind kind of bored of my own face. I'm like, you know what? How can we just like rev this up? Like let's get this going. I mean, you know, a lower stakes version, just learn Photoshop and just audition some of the piercings first. Yeah. If there's a Photoshop that I could somehow incorporate onto my mirror, maybe I'll start painting on my mirror. So when I look at myself and my reflection, like it's just more interesting. I don't know.

Something. I saw an artist on Instagram that does that. Just takes looks in the mirror and then uses her face as a stencil to do a portrait and then begins getting trippy with it. People are finding all kinds of ways to make these mirrors work. Yeah, mirrors, man. It's an old technology, but it's still jamming. Like, how do those work? Vermeer, like, just traced mirrors. He was, like, a great artist or seen as a master,

but it turned out he just, like, traced mirrors. And that was how he did his whole thing. Did you ever use tracing paper to try and be better at drawing? Yeah, I think it actually works right because it like teaches you how to do like steady hand work i don't know if it helped me or just was like i was cheating at drawing and then would be like yo dude i'm or what i would do okay so i loved like video game art from the early 90s and i loved like battle toads which was like a game franchise and i remember there was a cover of GamePro magazine

that I would, I took tracing paper and I like, I drew like pretty well for like eight years old. And I brought it to school and like somebody was like, man, that's tracing paper. And I was like, fuck. So then I was like trying to find

like the thinnest white copy paper I could and would like do jank tracing. Be like, yeah, man, I just free handed that shit free handed that shit so yeah right i think there was like a hack where you could use tracing paper and make it like really thick and then like turn it over and then just do like the mirror image of it like you could like kind of like rub over it and then you'd get it on real paper does that make sense wow see that this is what happens when you're not blessed with visual skills a fake ass bitch you can do that but i i'm all for being authentic if you don't know how to draw just own it don't draw yeah don't no no don't even like

don't embrace your shitty drawing style just don't draw just fucking don't do it don't worry about it don't worry about it they always talk about like how like warhol was actually a great painter before he decided to like start you know tracing and stenciling shit but like he didn't really need to be right is there anybody who just like stencils shit and like can't draw worth shit but like just traces stuff and like makes art out of that. Banksy? But yeah, I guess we don't know. Yeah. I mean, those are all stencils. We don't know.

I mean, we literally don't require anyone to be talented in any profession, though. Or they. Yeah, that's true. You don't need to be good at anything to succeed. Yeah. You just have to do it. You just have to have no shame. That's really what we've learned in the last 50 years,

is to the victor, to the shameless go the spoils yeah if you have no shame and no taste you will thrive baby yeah uh what is something you think is underrated oh i think silence is so underrated i am obsessed with silence like i have just been sitting down and and just like dazing out and i have no background noise on like the other day a hummingbird came by my window and i swear its little wing sounded like a motorcycle was going off and it was just like wow man wow like i'm just like really enjoying being in in stillness and having outer body experiences when I take showers now. It's intense.

Wow. Without any psychedelic enhancement or anything, that's just from sensory deprivation, basically? Yeah. Basically, I think I just have spent so much time alone with my thoughts that now just a touch of droplets of water from my shower head and I'm like, what is yeah start levitating like my soul is leaving yeah but more so than like you know like oh let's all talk about tiger king i'm like yeah have you guys tried fucking silence it's instead of your ig live like have you tried silence it's i just yeah i like, instead of your IG Live, like, have you tried silence? It's addicting. Yeah, I like the flex of being so into your silence.

Like, you're getting fucking angry at a hummingbird. You're like, yo, shut the fuck up. No. Trying to sit in silence. Whoa, man. I did not yell at the hummingbird. Oh, I would. For some reason, to me, like what you were describing, when you described the hummingbird suddenly coming into it,

I'm like, yo, that hummingbird better get the fuck away right now because we're trying to do this shit silently i was okay with it i was like hey what's up let's let's vibe let's chill the hummingbird was like the hummingbird was like really hot like uh another another side effect yeah now everything is just like oh damn you're. Like I'm meeting the hummingbirds parents tonight. It's crazy. Yeah. My favorite meme was like I forget what it was, but it was like some girl was like yeah, he wants

to marry me and it's about her house plant. Like I feel like a hundred percent like I have sexual feelings to my house plants now. I'm like, what's up, Daniel? Like it's so sick. I can like, what's up, Daniel? It's so sexy. I can see the houseplant behind you, and it is a really attractive houseplant.

Strapping young houseplant. That's not even my hottest plant. I have one, Sarah, that keeps on just multiplying, and I'm like, we get it. You are the alpha. We might have to propagate. Yeah. Have you guys ever scissored a plant?

No, but I'm open. My plants are not substantial enough for how significant my legs are. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Wait until they're old enough. For the way Miles scissors. The way I scissor. I need a royal palm tree.

Yeah, your thighs are a little too ripped, I would say. You need to soften up in the quarantine. We'll get into it later, but I have a complaint specifically with Lululemon, and the owner had something to say about that. Shannon, what is something you think is overrated? I think algorithms are overrated. I hate algorithms.

I think they're trash. I wish we never came up with them. I hate on streaming services how they think they know me and they know what i like because they always get me wrong and i hate like like everything like i hate what like every social media site shows me on my feed and like the people they hide away are actually always the people i want to see and then i just like hate algorithms i'm like why you don't know me i just want everything to be like an absolute chronological list or like alphabetical like i want to see every movie i don't want to see the movie that you think i want to see because i

watched one noah centineo film like that's it stop right right right right yeah yeah i think algorithms made the world a shittier place yeah i feel like this could have been or in theory this In theory, this would be a good moment for us all to just be like, shut the fuck up to all the algorithms and the bubbles and all the different things that have inundated our day-to-day lives and existences for the past five years. But because we're in our homes, we're almost even more kind of surrounded by that shit than we have been in the past, and it is a little frustrating.

Right. I would agree with that. Yeah, I don't know how to get away from algorithms. It's kind of inescapable, and it's so annoying. Algorithms have also robbed us of like that older kid who would tell us about a movie or book or album that used to be the out like my algorithm used to be like my friend's older brother who would be like yeah oh y'all listening to that nah nah nah you listen to this or like oh what are you watching now this movie's dog don't fuck

fuck that thing listen to this and there's a way i mean obviously it's coming through one person's narrow lens but algorithms like in a way like we're outsourcing even having our own taste in a way to just sort of be like yeah fuck it man there's the options are so fucking bountiful now that i just be like just please tell me what i like please just fucking tell me. It's very reductive, too. Like, if you just had your music taste dictated by algorithms, it would always just serve you more of the same. And if, like, people are then making music to the taste of the consumer, then it just, I don't know, it's, like, very reductive. It just boils everything down to the lowest common denominator

i feel like um and it also does that with ideology it like basically sends people down weird ideological rabbit holes but yeah you're right i was like i i feel like like all the things that i was glad i discovered were like through random shit like walking by it when i was 12 and liking the album cover or hearing overhearing somebody like talk about radiohead i think it was actually i i was into diddy and then diddy started talking about how radiohead was a huge influence on him and i was like oh shit i should check out radiohead. And it was just pretty random. But that wouldn't be like a thing that an algorithm would pick up on, I don't think. Well, I mean, I guess, yeah, to some extent.

But yeah, I long for those days, you know, of just some other, like, obviously we still tell people like what we like and whatnot whatnot but there's something that always sometimes will lead back to oh how'd you find out about that you're like i don't know dude like on instagram it just showed this to me or like oh i don't know like i think it just popped up on my my feed yeah like i feel like i get recommended stuff all the time that people are just like yeah it was on my discover spotify and i'm like okay well I was also going to see it in a minute. So thanks for nothing. Thanks for wasting my time. Yeah, I miss like back in the day on the internet when you could just like go on random websites

instead of just like I get everything from the same website now. I remember like actual like message. Oh, like how you had like one website that was just for like music videos. Like people were just for like music videos like people were just talking about music videos another website was just about like new graffiti styles remember that website that was like mixtapes and you could put like whatever you wanted what was it called mux tape it was so good it was like this old website you could go and people would make really cool playlists but it was like not it was different guys i

promise it was different than just spotify yeah it was so different and you could use like any song you wanted could like you didn't have you weren't limited to like whatever spotify had and that's how i used to find out about so many good bands oh you could just upload like whatever you wanted to it you're saying yeah damn i sound like i'm like you know what we should bring back my space yeah i mean eventually that's overheaded they tried it failed yeah what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa um i'm just gonna keep it topical and say i heard a lot of people complaining about how uh dating during the quarantine over like video chat

is like the worst but i think it's actually really great like i've done some facetime dates and i think it's actually wonderful because you get like you get an actual room tour of people's apartments and stuff and like it's like basically like mtv cribs on a first date and like i had people like show me all their books and like like yeah check out this poster on my bedroom wall and you get to be like in bed with them but like no pressure to have sex because you can't so it's like actually better like i'm like you know what i'm just gonna zoom dates like all day like for the rest of my life because then it's like you can find out more about a person is that a thing like before you'll be like, and are we going to both be doing room tours

or are we just going to keep it straight to the face conversation? What's too much to be like, okay, motherfucker, can you do a quick pan around your room? I want to see what kind of posters you have. Yeah, how early in the conversation does that happen? Where you're like, show me around. Well, I never ask. They usually just offer.

But basically, I think it depends if the offer um but basically i think it's like depends if the conversation is going well and if you're if it's an actual hang like if you're just like hey what's up how are you uh are your parents divorced later bye then it's not gonna happen but like on a good day where you're like oh okay cool we're chilling yeah we're talking oh man now we're hanging out we're drinking we're talking about stuff. And then next thing you know, like, you know, you're automatically like talking about things that you like and then everything that you like is in your space with you. So it's like a date, but a show and tell date where you're like, oh, yeah, like I like I went on a date with this guy and he loves fish and he started showing me all these like ridiculous fish video tour things that he had and i was like cool cool cool which is kind of like also you don't want to get stuck on an hour date talking about fish but also different than like going to like a bar and just having a drink more interesting i think yeah fish like the animal or the jam band the band wouldn't be great

if he was just showing me videos of fishes? I don't know. Either one. That's pretty cool. He's like, yo, man, Trey's a fucking Jedi. But anyway, you should check out these fish. They glow in the dark. I don't know.

If he had videos of cool fish tours, when he said that, I was still thinking somebody who worked in an aquarium. And I was like, damn, what's that look like? That's what I had to clarify. Is it the Vermont Jam Band? I would love that. I have been trying to match with this guy who's a vet in the UK. And we'll match.

And we always like, the time runs out. It's on Bumble. And I keep on rematching him. And I'm like, hey, man, write me back. Because he has all these pets. And I just want to date a vet from the UK. So like someone showing me fish videos is actually like join the club. All right. Let's let's take a quick break and we'll be right back with the news.

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And we're back. So, I mean, we've seen the rhetoric around the quarantine sort of devolve in the past week, which was somewhat predictable since the rhetoric around everything seems to devolve these days. But we're seeing Trump kind of go towards his previous strategy of blaming immigrants for everything. Yeah, again, number one strategy, can't get anything done, blame the immigrants, blame the immigrants. And that's what he's basically got a new immigration. He's putting immigration on pause, y'all. People at the time of this recording are like, what's that mean?

How long? What programs are we talking about? Is it permanent? Is this through an EO? What does Department of Homeland Security know? Nobody knows much yet. I know they're working on something now, but it's just, you know, I think a lot of people are talking about, can legally he do this or whatever, but clearly this is just a way to create a, again, let's do racist smoke bomb because he's completely botching the response. And we still have no way to really effectively test, you know, a significant number of American people. Yeah, it seems like there's a big difference between like what what he says and what he does.

And like what he says is what he like wishes he were able to do. and like what he says is what he like wishes he were able to do and it's almost i i sometimes like wonder if it's worth even paying attention to what he says because so often it's not legal and it's designed specifically to get a uh a response but is is this something that like he's actually like he has policy behind i mean they're trying to, again, this is things that they're even trying to figure out legally what the parameters of something like this could look like. So that's him just saying something. Because a lot of people also point to, well, he did the China travel ban, which was way too late.

Everything's been late. Everything's been at least three weeks late, if not months late. And again, like you're saying, is it worth talking about? No, because really what we need to be doing is keep talking about how we need more testing. And for somebody who's so horny to reopen the country, just listen. It's like the one thing the experts are saying, like, hey, yeah, we want to get the country open, too. You see the countries that are reopening? It's because they have a proper testing regime and they can find out who has the

virus then they can do contact tracing isolate them and get a handle on it but he doesn't it's not even like about that yeah i mean he doesn't want testing i think like obviously he doesn't want to work for it he would rather you know say that he's gonna just stop immigration forever that's his main plan like testing does not benefit him in any way like he no he loves this he's thriving he's enjoying it it is yeah he has his radio show yeah his daily radio show at the press conference has that mentality of like a lot of older black and brown men which is don't go to the doctor because they're gonna tell you something's wrong yeah and just basically like don't need the testing we don't need to hear that news and the

it's it's sort of like a guy who really wants to play like in his like company softball game and he has a broken leg and he's like doctor you got to give me a note that says i can play in the big game and he's like but you're let you just broke that shit two days ago you can't play on he's like no i just need the note i just need something that says i can play but it's like but you effectively cannot part that does nothing right that's actually you will re-injure yourself trying to play yeah yeah that's fine i just need right so you'll write me the note then yeah right yeah it's people kept comparing him to the mayor in jaws uh early on in the epidemic, but it seems like this is after the scene, like the July 4th scene where the shark

just starts eating everybody in front of news cameras, and everyone's like, oh, fuck, there is a shark. We shouldn't have opened. And the mayor, this is like if the mayor was like, yeah, but we're going to keep the beaches open. It's like the mayor's like, yeah, but we're going to keep the beaches. It's like the mayor's like,

sharks have always been at the beaches. I don't know. I've always lost friends. I've lost like tens, thousands, so many friends to sharks. Like what else are sharks going to eat? Yeah. You think those shark attacks were bad.

I mean, there's lots of boating accidents every day. You don't make a big deal about those. And also we're not talking about where this shark came from, because that's definitely not an American shark. God sent this shark. God sent this shark from China, and now we must completely. And yeah, this whole rhetoric has just been, I guess, embraced by anyone who is a good Trump-loving supporter

or company that is adjacent to any GOP fundraising because the immigrant blame game is also happening at the Smithfield Foods pork processing plant, which is in South Dakota. And it's one of the worst infection clusters in the United States. Like more than some nursing homes and things. They have something over 700 confirmed cases for these people who are doing, dude, they're providing,

I think that place churns out something like five or 6% of the pork that we eat in this entire country. And all the people who are working in these food processing plants, again, other essential work done in very close quarters. And when you hear about the story of this facility, very little fuck's given about their safety from their employers. So when a lot of people were asking, what's going on? Why do you have all these cases here? What do you have to say for yourself as a company? A lot of their workers are immigrants. And a spokesperson said that it was hard to know, quote, what could have been done differently given that the plant has a, quote, large immigrant population.

What? And then people were like, what the fuck does that mean? So then they go on to say living circumstances in certain cultures are different than they are with your traditional American family. And then this spokesperson and another person were pointing to these comments that the governor of their state, uh, Christie Noem said that quote, this is what the governor of South Dakota said. 99% of the spread of infections wasn't happening inside the facility, but inside the workers homes, because a lot of these folks who work at this plant live

in the same community, the same building, sometimes in the same apartments, you know, they're disgusting immigrant they're subhuman people and that's how we're going to describe them for the purposes right of not having any responsibility for the well-being of these these workers yep it's yeah it's very convenient that's most infuriating is knowing that these workers are never being taken care of and this is just like we're just hearing about it now because their situation now affects us on a greater whole but like this whole situation is just like it's like putting a magnifying glass on like how many people are day-to-day their lives have been trash and they've been mistreated and forgotten and like how just like crap every like society

is just designed so poorly. Yeah, it's almost in a way like people are like, man, COVID-19, look at everything it's done. It's like, nah, actually, it just gave us, we took a breath for a second so we could look behind us and be like, yo, what the fuck is going on all the time? All the time.

And so they talk even to what you're saying about the safety all the time um and so they talk even to what you're saying about the safety of the workers the this company did an absolutely abysmal fucking job in like even communicating right given that they have a large their their employees are immigrants and have very limited english comprehension let alone for reading they were posting signs in English that were basically like, fax your healthcare person to tell them if you are feeling unwell immediately. Go very, very long instructions in English. But clearly, that's done on purpose because they don't want to actually alarm the people because they need to keep making money and keep processing the food. But they were also saying that like, they were also giving out a free lunch to the

workers saying, hey, thanks for stopping by. Like, thanks for coming in here. We really appreciate it. But that basically forced all their employees through one common space at one time, which probably did not help infection rates. And at a certain point, people were saying like, well, what do you, you know, asking, what do you get for protection uh well there was like they're saying we got like cardboard cubicles that we could like eat around during lunch and that some people got ppe in the form of beard nets to wear over their faces not masks fucking hair net to wear as a mask was right that was the ppe they were given oh yeah the whole article i mean it seems effective i don't the whole article is just worth reading again because just like the story you're talking about jack about the person who worked in the icu er new

york and what that experience is like looking at the humanity of the crisis from that perspective and then even this to know like you're even saying shannon about how we are just continuously shitting on the people who are so essential to doing the most basic shit keeping us fed that it's how easily some of these companies can just treat uh you know the people who are helping us live uh it's it's it's it's worth a read it's but it's it can be upsetting yeah most things are upsetting right now we will have that in the footnote footnotes live. It's worth a read, but it can be upsetting. Yeah, most things are upsetting right now. We will have that in the footnotes.

Let's talk about grocery stores, because speaking of locations that a lot of people have to go through, grocery stores have been kind of the single consumer space that still feels somewhat the same like i you know there were lines at uh the local ralph slash kroger um where you know that wrapped around the block at first but these days it's starting to feel a little bit more similar where there's not like long lines and it's not as it's just everybody's wearing masks and gloves but otherwise like there's not long lines and it's just everybody's wearing masks and gloves but otherwise there's not as many empty shelves. But the employees are getting sick at grocery stores

because everybody's coming through and the grocery stores... We've talked about how airplanes are a small margin business and therefore they just don't clean the planes in between flights and that's why you always get sick after you fly. Grocery stores are a thin margin business and so they don't do a good enough job of cleaning the workspace and giving their employees PPE and they're getting sick you know, probably time to think about a different way of doing it. Well, there are ways, at least a lot of the grocery stores I've seen, they're trying in in a way that they feel that they are

being safe or regarding their safety in terms of social distancing walking in there fucking no mask fucking coughing and shit like it like i said i think because going to a grocery store is like it it's like the one thing that still feels normal like yeah you get your cart right what do i need i go this. It's still like there are ways to sort of kind of like fall back into these old patterns. And I think for the people that work there, they're like, yo, these people are fucking wild now. And I do not feel safe. The problem is, you know, with a lot of the suggestions that people are giving, which is sort of like just go to completely curbside pickup, contactless grocery shopping. It's just tough because that requires a lot more people to

fulfill orders in an efficient way like that than it would just to merely operate a grocery store. And to what you're saying, the margins are so thin, even though there's a lot of people buying groceries now, a lot of that money is being spent on hiring more people just to keep up with the business. So to go to go to that next level, to take it to like a full on use an app. I mean, not only there's also the problem with what do you do to people who cannot access the technology to make a fully online order who do not have credit? You know, I mean, there's already there's so many like so many issues with it but it's a problem because like when you look at new york dozens of grocery store workers have have passed away because of coronavirus so it's like what the fuck how you know so it puts us in this spot where we're not saying we need to close them but shit

what's the best fucking way to do this because we there's we damn sure can't just keep you know putting these workers at risk if if customers aren't going to exercise responsibility yeah i totally agree that we are not at a place where we can just shut grocery stores because we don't have like not everyone has access to just go online and order for a delivery of groceries to show up to them we're just not prepared it's not logical at this point and i think like the i'd say like the second most triggering thing for me personally was like when they told us to not go out grocery shopping and i've only been grocery shopping three times since i started isolating on the 12th and it's nerve wracking because i go to the grocery store and i feel like I see so many of the workers doing their like their

absolute best like I've only been to 365 here in Silver Lake and um you know they have the six foot rule for the line you have to have a mask they like completely sanitize down the carts before you touch them and most people inside the stores are being pretty good, but there's just like absolute mouth breathers who will never learn their lessons. Like I will be patiently waiting for someone to finish choosing whatever, you know, pasta they want or whatever. And I'm obviously like six feet away waiting.

Yeah, like lurking, right? Yeah. And an absolute moron will show up, reach over that person, like arm over and I'm'm like what are you doing it's like excuse me you got to get these annie's cheddar bunnies yeah it's it's insane i'm just like why can't we practice like patience mindfulness like just like be in the moment and remember that you can't reach over someone anymore i had a woman touch this is so funny but i had a woman like i left my cart to go get some food and i was two feet away from it and

she i turned around and she was holding my cart with both hands and she wasn't wearing gloves and i was wearing gloves and a mask and she wasn't wearing um gloves i already said that but i'm freaking out um and when i said oh excuse, excuse me, that's my cart. She went, ugh. And she like pulled her hands off and then pulled out a sanitizer wipe. And I was like, oh, she's going to kindly sanitize my cart, which she touched with her disgusting bare hands. No, this woman like wiped her own hands and like walked away looking at me like I was nasty. And I was like, you're the one going around touching people's carts, okay?

Yeah. You creature. She's got that thing. She goes, oh, you're wearing gloves and a mask. Something must be wrong with you. See, I'm healthy. That's why I do not have any protection because I am untouched. Yeah, it was like, you are the wild card that we're all afraid of.

Yeah. It's so funny. Seeing people, funny but funny like seeing people funny but terrifying seeing people take off their masks to sneeze have you guys seen that no my god oh my no i'm so limited in like the time i even spent i i treat i try and get in and out as quickly as possible because like i'm half the time i feel like i could be asymptomatic i don't get i don't get sick all the time but sometimes i'll know people around me like in my family have so in my mind i'm like fuck man what if i'm just carrying that shit so like i'd have to half the time i'm treating myself like i'm the

fucking ticking time bomb like i'm sorry don't even look at me like please just take this fucking like yeah i'm like y'all have apple pay no all right fuck it i'm not coming in here like yeah i had to like my card wasn't working and i had to swipe it more than once and i was panicking i was like oh no i'm so sorry everybody but i mean yeah and i think that's you'd hope that people can exercise that kind of compassion in terms of like i don't do that because i'm like oh my gosh it's everything is so bad for me it's just like fuck man like we have such a duty to each other to try and ensure the best outcome that it's like you have to like in a way like i have to look at everybody as being my family like i gotta give a fuck even if i you know whatever don't know you but i want to exercise that same amount of courtesy like fuck bro like that if you were my mother father brother whatever and at the store i would

want to make sure people around you are treating you with you know being safe and considerate so yeah like you want people i just want people to feel not just i want them to be safe and i want them to not get anything from me or from anyone else i also just want people to feel comfortable i feel like you showing up someplace knowing you're going to be around other people now without a mask and without gloves and without those precautions is the same thing as someone just walking around with their dick hanging out. It doesn't make us feel safe or comfortable and you shouldn't do it because your dick can easily stay in your pants. You don't have to have it out, man. It's not complicated. It's the new dick hanging out.

Yeah. I'm like, you all are a bunch of louis cks and you're fucking freaking me out well he's trying to well look you know they if the masks are off then they can fire up this economy as quickly as possible man fuck this economy that's right that's right yeah i mean what one thing that i was just thinking about is that grocery stores used to be a counter that you would go to and basically hand them a list, and then they would go in the back and get the things for you. I wonder if going back to that model might make sense. I mean, that's kind of how a lot of takeout restaurants,

they have a counter out front that you just have to order ahead and then come pick up your order, which minimizes the interaction that happens once you're there. But I wonder if even having that model of just a counter where you can hand a list might work as a way to get over the fact that not everybody has access to postmates or whatever right and i think that i mean and then you probably just have to everyone would just have to kind of come to grips with the fact that like maybe you can't get your shit immediately like you got to

go drop off your order and then you get it like you know a couple hours later come pick it up they'll be like all right i'll have your bags ready for, you know, like just like that. But I think that's, those are the kinds of problem solving exercises that are going on, I think in the industry, because a lot of, especially like people who like who are managing the stores, they're, they're the ones who are also being like, fuck man. I also, I kind of want no customers in this motherfucker.

Cause these people somehow sometimes don't know how to act or unfortunately my employees get sick and like how the fuck do we do this where we're doing you know it's tough but yeah i think holding people accountable is good though i think it's okay to say hey dude you're being reckless get out of this grocery store like is i think we should start kicking people out of places if they're not you know behaving accordingly yeah because i don't know how i don't know how pervasive it is like across the state but i know in la like it's pretty much like yo don't come in here if you are unmasked like it's just like you need i'm sorry mask no service yeah so a sign now and i don't know how many other states or cities are doing

that but like i'm like yeah that's true like just at a fucking minimum let's just do fucking everything we can you're not even allowed to bring your own personal reusable bags so now right which is i mean good because obviously like those bags get used a lot and i don't i know from personal experience i don't clean my reusable bags that often so that can get pretty or ever like i'll do it like once a year but damn look at you fans money bags coffee over here i uh i just put it down in a year. Damn, look at you, fancy money bags coffee over here. I just put it down in a wash, you know, the wash machine,

175, not that big of a deal. But I think it's, in a weird way, I think it's important and cool to have to test your own patience though when you're saying that like, you know, we have to be okay

with not immediately getting the things you want. Like I think instant gratification is a shitty thing that we've learned. And I'm excited to have people challenge themselves to learn to not have to get everything they want immediately. Like, you know, people who didn't grow up in privilege didn't have that experience ever for most of their life. Sometimes never. They never get it. So it's like I'm pretty tired of people whining about not being able to get like a pina colada immediately.

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to fucking die for this economy if that means leaving a better fucking economy for just white children so uh now he's back on his bullshit he was on tucker carlson and this dude is taking a fucking victory lap right now on like hey we gotta do this i'm telling you he's like yeah people wanted to say like i was being brutal or something about me lacked all this humanity uh but i think i'm vindicated so he's on here now um listen to his new how all this humanity uh but i think i'm vindicated so he's on here now um listen to his new how is he vindicated because i think he's i think they were referencing like why um you know with a lot of these astroturf protests of people being like open the economy like we're dying because i can't go to fucking super cuts and buffalo wild wings

like that he started being like yeah yeah, man, like, look, the people know what the risk is here. And I think that's what he was starting to getting at. And so listen to him on, yeah, listen to him on Dan Patrick, or that's his name is Dan Patrick, pardon me, not the great ESPN announcer. This is him on Tucker Carlson just saying, this is where he starts off by coming at Dr. Anthony Fauci for saying that he got the science all wrong.

I mean, at the end of January, Dr. Fauci, who I have great respect for, said this wasn't a big issue. Three weeks later, we were going to lose two million people. Another few weeks later, it was one to two hundred thousand. Now it's under sixty thousand. And we've had the wrong numbers, the wrong science. And we've had the wrong numbers, the wrong science. And I don't blame them, but let's face reality of where we are. In Texas, we have 29 million people. We've lost 495 at every life is valuable. But 500 people out of 29 million, and we're locked down. And we're crushing the average worker.

We're crushing small business. We're crushing the markets. We're crushing this country. And what I said when I was with you that night, there are more important things than living. And that's saving this country for my children and my grandchildren and saving this country for all of us. And I don't want to die. Nobody wants to die. But man, we got to we got to take some risk and get back in the game and get this country back up and running. He sounds so sure that those kids aren't gonna die i'm so confused

why he thinks that grandchildren aren't gonna die it's because they're they're just operating on the same set of bullshit facts that they have to tell themselves why this isn't that bad which is it only affects really old people uh americans want to go back to work to continue to be wage slaves for the corporate class. And that's all. And don't worry about it. Just we have to leave something behind, which is so funny, because what I want to do is have that tattooed on his forehead and then ask him about climate change. Because for all this shit of like, you know, we've got to preserve something.

We've got to leave something behind. Get the... That's why I'm like, you know what? In a way, I wish more people had the savvy to look at someone saying something like that and go, you aren't talking about human beings. You're a human being who has been co-opted by the corporate class to give a sound bite to make other human beings believe that this is something we would want for ourselves. to make other human beings believe that this is something we would want for ourselves. Yeah. I think it's really easy to think about small businesses dying and get really worried for the economy and be like, well, just a couple of people are going to die and not think about

what it is when someone actually dies a terrible, slow, painful death. So if this guy really wants to do this, I think we should have to live stream every patient in the hospital who's taking their last breath and then over it just have it say, sponsored by McDonald's. Sponsor these deaths. I'm loving it.

We should have to watch these people die because of our choices so that people really get what is happening. We don't just go out there and, and go back to living normal without consequences. And I don't think that everyone is aware fully of our, of the consequences we have to pay for this. Right.

Yeah. And again, ask, okay, if you're ready to go back to work, like how would you feel? Would you be willing to say like of those 500 people, three of them are your family members. Could you handle that? You willing to really to say, like, of those 500 people, three of them are your family members?

Could you handle that? Right. Can you put five on it? Can you put five family members on it? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then just have that shit roll off your back like it's all good because your fucking Jimmy John's franchise is booming again?

They're so sure it's not going to be their people. That's why they feel okay taking the risk. They're like, it's going to be some, like, old, lonely person with no friends or family. No, it's going to be their people. That's why they feel okay taking the risk. They're like, it's going to be some old, lonely person with no friends or family. No, it's going to be a black or brown person. Let's be real. I think that's another reason why it's easier to demand that we go back to work. You are the class of people who gives- Because it's not we.

It's you guys. Y'all. Y'all cut my hair. You cut my grass, my fucking golf course. You fucking mix my drinks drinks i want to go back to my hyper consumption lifestyle at your expense now go die for the shit yeah there was a guy who uh i mean he was he was not a politician he was just a everyday ordinary uh guy but he had a couple posts go viral because he was one of the first to be like we need to

open america back up and uh like the governor can't keep us closed down and if you want to stay at home that's your that's your right but don't get in my way when i'm going about my life and he just died of coronavirus a couple a couple days ago i mean what and i wonder what the people around him think when they hear that like the people who knew him like what do they like what do they what's their process probably probably pretty hard to reach right no but i mean on a real level right because if you're around somebody like that who's saying it's bullshit on some level go yeah like he's i think he's kind of right and then if it happens are they going to immediately go man he was so wrong i should never ever act like science doesn't matter that was such an awful way to find out

about this or are they going to be like i don't know man he was kind of a fucking weakling you know i'm actually curious like right what that effect is to someone who might subscribe to that belief yeah somebody should do a deep dive and just like uh follow up with this american life this is your assignment go find everybody who liked one of that guy's original posts and interview up with them and ask them how they're feeling uh let's talk about lulu lemon which just i never uh see lulu lemon in the in the um news and it's followed by like good stuff good behavior it's always something fucked up um so they have a art director who is hilarious uh dropping some hilarious racist jokes uh against asian people yeah well this there was a a shirt being sold by some other racist schmuck that was basically

like a chinese takeout box like those white foldable takeout boxes that had like bat wings coming out the side and it said no thank you uh and it was like called like the bat fried rice t-shirt and it says no thank you like in that fucking hyper bullshit racist what they probably call like oriental express font um the so this art director like i guess retweeted or promoted this shit posted about it was like oh it's just funny blah blah blah fired okay and the lululemon people are saying like uh i think i just want to i want to make sure i'm getting the words of the company correctly um they said that the that they acted immediately and the person involved is no longer an employee uh and the shirt design is not a lululemon product and quote opposes any discriminatory behaviors unless it's from the founder chip wilson uh and i always like to get

this anecdote in because he always talks about how uh lululemon he likes the name because it's funny to hear japanese customers struggle to pronounce the letter l fun yeah that's like some shit he told that's not like some snope shit that's like an interview he gave about the company and his hot takes that it's funny because this dude his takes on birth control and smoking are also wild too this is from another article another interview he had he said what quote women's lives changed immediately after the pill men did not know how to relate to the new female thus came the era of divorces this is something he posted in 2009 then he goes on quote with divorce and publicity around equality,

women in the 70s and 80s found themselves operating as, quote, power women. The media convinced women that they could win at home and be a man's equal in the business world. The 1980s gave way to power women dressing like men in boardroom attire with big shoulder pads. They went to three martini lunches and smoked because this is what their, quote, successful fathers did in the business world.

It gets better. Quote, Breast cancer also came into prominence in the 1990s. I suggest this was due to the number of cigarette-smoking power women who were on the pill. Initial concentrations of hormones in the pill were very high and taking on the stress previously left to men in the working world ultimately lululemon was formed because female education levels breast cancer yoga slash athletics and the desire to dress feminine came together all at one

time that's a real fucking whole thing i just said what this man's words yeah i am glad i've never bought anything from Lululemon I'm glad I've never stepped in a store I'm glad no one's ever gifted me that trash it's you know what you never find out that you have a racist co-worker because they retweeted something racist you know they're a racist because they act racist all the time and there's all these little subtle things that they do throughout the day all these little microaggressions so they only fired that person because they got caught but they were happy working with them behind closed doors being racist and they're racist buildings right right right and they're racist ass company i hey but they're flexible as fuck benefit do you know that he's

also a huge ayn rand fan of course ayn rand he printed of course he printed who is John Galt on company bags like hidden on the thing and then when the CEO found out they were like yo what the fuck is this and uh like then they had to like you know can it but he did it without the CEO knowing like this is just how this guy fucking operates but But hey, big Ayn Rand fan. These people are getting paid so much money. It's so upsetting. I'm like, whatever happens. I just don't like, is there like one cool hacker out there who can like hack their bank account and spread the wealth to the little people?

I know. That's really the next level. Yeah. I'm like, please. When I was growing up, I remember thinking hackers were like these cool people. And now they're just people who leak nudes. And you're like, why? Don't do that.

That's not cool. You know what's cool? Eating the rich. Like, come on. Yeah, go to it. You want to see that thing where it says, bank account, 40 million. And you go, beep, deleted. Yay.

Zero. And you're like, what? I want that so bad. Simpler times. Simpler times. Yay. Zero. And you're like, what? I want that so bad. Simpler times. Simpler times. Please. Just like hack Lululemon, take their money, and give it to us. Yeah. So we talked on yesterday's episode about the last dance documentary about the Chicago Bulls.

And this was the first time I had watched TV during the quarantine since commercials had changed. And I've noticed, and our writer Jay McNabb wrote this breakdown of, all the ads are basically the same. It makes sense to me that they had to get rid of previous ads. There was apparently a KFC ad campaign that was focused around their finger licking good slogan and just consisted of different people licking their spice-coated hands and sticking their fingers in their mouths

and in each other's mouths, which didn't age well. And so they had to pull those ads. And I think there are some other examples of ad campaigns that people were just like, yeah, that's not going to, people aren't going to be able to stomach that now in the post-COVID world. So all of these different corporations decided to

create these more appropriate for the time ads, but they all basically created the same ad. It's like the stupid version of everybody inventing the light bulb at the same time. It's just they all made this ad where it's made of stock footage, first of all,

because you can't shoot anything. I think some of the ads even have the same stock footage in it, or at least it all looks the same. They start with really somber piano music. They remind viewers how many years the company has been around and a part of your life they remind you they're made of people and we're kind of a

family they preface their message with either especially now or now more than ever or in these trying times or in these difficult times or troubled times or challenging times, or they emphasize the safety of home and how you can buy this product from home. The company is here to help or here for you. We're all in this together. And then the music speeds up and everyone's clapping on balconies at the end. That's basically every ad at this point. It's such a weird, i don't know obviously they want to stay relevant and in your mind because they're like

okay the second you can go outside please patronize our businesses but we want we want to seem like the considerate company that you always loved but even like the non-specific they're also kind of like vague in that it's half like yeah it's tough but also like yeah if you think this is bullshit we don't want you to think we're like some libs who are like ready to be like rent strike or anything like that so let's just now more than ever embrace in the spirit of humanity therefore therefore, Chuck E. Cheese, where a kid can be a kid. Like, what? Yeah, they don't want to link the disease and the brand, obviously, because the disease bad, brand good.

And they don't want to alienate viewers who think that coronavirus is overhyped or a hoax. So they just, you know, do this very vague bullshit thing that has, I mean, it's all advertising. It's just funny that they all had the exact same bad idea at the exact same

time. Yeah. I'm really not surprised. All the different elements of a new ad is from a YouTube user called Microsoft Sam. Oh. Well

observed, Microsoft Sam. It's just I'm not surprised that commercials are so bad during this time because I think they're always bad and they're always so repetitive. I think it's impossible to have an original idea personally i hate the commercials where it's just like hodgepodge video footage of all these celebrities in their house being like we're all in this together and i'm like no we're not ellen okay your life is very different from our lives like i don't

want to see celebrities during this i'm really tired of celebrities stepping up and being like the people need me. And I'm like, you know what we don't need is you and your ego go away. I'm not interested in your likes and your views and your content and your special, whatever product it is that you came up with that you dreamt up with. I don't trust it. I don't trust any of them.

I have trust issues now. I feel like I, I really, trust any of them i have trust issues now i feel like i i really i feel like this is a time to not get sucked in to products companies celebrities i feel like we need to take back the power it's it's like these i feel like the media is just too much i can't i can't deal with celebrities just you got to go go to the silence of the hummingbirds you know what i mean and just vibe out but i think what the company should do for a good commercial is like almost like tease people that they're inside you're like haha you wish you could ride this jet ski from seadoo like look at how cool this shit is you're like fuck bro when this is over i'm buying that

wait no you know what i would love for advertisements if like you get like one creepy person you know like they have like a mask gloves they're being totally distant but they stand like probably like far away from your window but close enough where you could see them and they're like hanging out out of a bush and they're like here lysol wipes and they're just holding a product i think that would be more interesting oh shit like window ads like be like yo look out your window. And you're like, Douglas, is that you? And it's just like your friend Douglas from Improv 401 is like now selling products outside your window. It's like, yeah, ever since they closed the theaters, I've been looking for other work.

But yeah, rest in peace. Douglas is such a talent. Yeah. He's like really funny, but like he's he's like undercover funny so he's never gonna make it you know right right right it's so weird he's like always funny like after class yeah i feel like he gets performance anxiety like when the lights are on he's like out but as soon as you're in the back hilarious oh my god it's like those five like right before we go on and then right after it It's like, dude, just do that on stage, Douglas.

Or else you're going to go back to copywriting for an ad agency for 20 years. No, you guys, are we Douglas? We are Douglas. Shout out to Douglas. We're all Douglas. You guys want to do a herald real quick? We are Marshall. a herald real quick we are marshall yeah also a norwegian artist sculptor uh who mainly works on knife-based pieces uh tweeted just an amazing update uh he tweeted so it turns out i'm an idiot

yesterday i was making one of my furniture aerobics videos and I was balancing on something sketchy. Needless to say, I fell and I fell onto my knife sculpture because I'm an idiot who leaves life-threatening items standing around. And then the picture is of just probably a hundred knives sticking out of a... It's an absolute fucking nightmare of a, I don't even know if you can call this a sculpture. It's a bunch of fucking,

it's basically a bunch of blades jutting out at you. It's so scary. I can't believe they're alive. I think that's, I'm mostly impressed that they didn't die. Right. At that point, can the hospital just be like, you know what, dude, honestly, we're not going to treat you. Nah.

Yeah. With all this shit going on, you wanted to fuck around and do an aerobics video by your knife? Is this a joke? Please tell me you were assaulted by someone wielding a knife and not doing fucking gymnastics. That's when you have to lie when you get to the hospital. You're just like, yeah, I was stabbed by 50 people at the same time.

Yeah, in this very weird way that would almost look like a board of knives hit me. Yeah, you got to lie. But then what do you do? They probably won't believe you if you said, what happened? So I'm doing one of my aerobics videos near my knife sculpture. And who would have thought i was balancing on something sketchy and i slipped i don't know but actually when i talked to my friend who's a nurse she always had the wildest stories so they're never like yeah oh that didn't

happen this is nothing yeah this is just a wednesday yeah they're like this is nothing right they're like oh it's knife sculpture guy all right get the back team yeah should we all make knife sculptures? Yeah. Right. I think so. Maybe we should all do it. We're all Douglas, and we should all make knife sculptures. We're all Douglas and we're all knife sculptors.

Shannon, it's been a pleasure having you back on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? You can follow me on Twitter. That's Coffee S. Or on Instagram, Coffee, C-O-F-F-E-Y. And yeah, that's pretty much where I am. The only place you could find me unless you want to stand in line at the grocery store six feet away from me, then I'll be doing jokes there.

Boom. Great. There you go. Thanks for having me. You do stand up when you're lined up at the grocery store? Yeah. I 100%. I bring a little mic and a little speaker.

And I'm like, all right, everybody. Do some crowd work. Yeah, you gotta%. I bring like a little mic and a little speaker and I'm like, all right, everybody. Do some crowd work. Yeah, you gotta. You know, I'm just trying to get work. He's like, I don't know, this corny got me horny.

Three, six, five, more like three, six, fine. Wow, look at the honeys in here anyway. Actually, it is very horny at the grocery store right now. Yeah, yeah.

Everywhere is, it's like, I don't know. I don't know if this is good or bad for humanity i feel like once people put on masks like i fucking became very very just okay to do on the streets where i'm like oh my gosh yeah and also very hard to know if someone's eye fucking you just happen to catch your eyes you know there's very you have to you have to connect a lot of dots after eye contact with a mask on yeah like i was at the pharmacy picking up something and i was like someone was looking the cashier was looking at me and i would look again and i'm like what's going on like is there something on me am i do they think i'm somebody i don't know these are the thoughts i

have with a mask on i love that there should be a series these are the thoughts i have with the mask on yeah mask on uh shannon is there a tweet or some other work as social media you've been enjoying i'm enjoying oh the internet all of it it's so good i forgot to get that tweet you know i think i yeah i think the meme that i mentioned earlier about wanting to marry a houseplant is pretty good. Or, you know, just I saw a meme that was, why is my cat screaming? And it said, because wouldn't, like, the real question is, why aren't you screaming? You should be screaming. So I think that meme.

Miles, where can people find you and what's tweet you've been enjoying me twitter instagram playstation network miles of gray my other podcast for 20 day fiance talking about 90 day fiance hi with sophie alexandra uh shout out to everybody who stopped by that twitch stream the tweet i like uh it's one from reductress another one from reductress it says i went as a nurse for halloween in third grade here's what you need to know about that Twitch stream. The tweet I like, it's one from Reductress, another one from Reductress. It says, I went as a nurse for Halloween in third grade. Here's what you need to know

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