The Daily Zeitgeist - Immigration Torture Devices? No Trespassing Signs Racist? 4.01.22

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

In episode 1217, Miles and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by documentarian Yara Elmjouie to discuss… Madison Cawthorn’s Wild Ride, Biden Is Replacing Immigrant Detention With Surveillance/Torture, Foraging and the racist origins of our NO TRESPASSING signs and more! Madison Cawthorn’s Wild Ride Biden Is Replacing Immigrant Detention With Surveillance/Torture Revealed: US to close or scale back troubled immigration detention centers Biden to Ask Congress for 9,000 fewer Immigration Detention Beds Poor tech, opaque rules, exhausted staff: inside the private company surveilling US immigrants Biden’s Immigration “Fix” Involves Jailing Migrants in Their Homes ‘Traumatizing and abusive’: Immigrants reveal personal toll of ankle monitors Home Office condemned for forcing migrants on bail to wear GPS tags WATCH: The awful TRUTH about "No Trespassing" signs AJ+ YouTube Channel LISTEN: Pasto by Synchro Rhythmic Eclectic LanguageSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 230 damn episode 5 of the daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio it's the podcast where we take a deep fucking dive into america's shared consciousness it's friday april 1st which you all know is National Buy a Person of Color, Ferrari Day. Hell yeah. If you're a person of color or part of any oppressed group, you can go to a Ferrari dealership. They have to give you a car. Or that may have been an April Fool's thing. I don't know, but I believe it and I want to believe that that's where our country's headed.

It's also April Fool's Day, obviously. I don't know what kind of shenanigans have cropped up yet. But we'll be talking about something that actually isn't an April Fool's joke. But before that, let me introduce myself. My name is Miles Gray, aka, you wake up, yogurt, lunchtime, yogurt, right around in that yogurt, flossing on that yogurt, these intestines, yogurt, my digestion, yogurt, this bod, intestines yogurt my digestion yogurt this bod yogurt my rock yogurt acidophilus acidophilus okay shout out to uh josiah josiah on the discord because yes my dad had me drinking so much acidophilus as a kid to help my digestion you know and me and me and Baratunde Thurston, we were commiserating over that shared experience. And I am thrilled to introduce my co-host with the mo-host, the brilliant and talented, hilarious, the brother from Chicago.

Please welcome John Keyes Neal. Here it is, the zeitgeist slightly transformed. Just a bit of a break from the norm Just a little slap to break Where the face be Of all them hardcore jokes That has gotten to be a little bit Out of control, it's cool to laugh But what about when your wife

Don't want to give you no ass Give me a soft subtle mix And if it ain't Jackie's Please try to fix it Oh, what up, niggas? Are we happy the week is over? The Will Smith jokes are done. It's over. That's it.

That's it. Just the week of them. Just the week of them. Oh, hello everybody. Slappy time. Slappy, slappy, slappy time. Slappy time. Just pull my wrist back and unwind.

Oh, your face yes yes yo will smith was smart he would make he would he would make you know will smith got a writer's room for his uh instagram oh yeah my man should like he should he should lean into it and just be like man fuck it i did it my boy does a lot of the production on those videos, especially like the super sort of editing heavy ones. I'm going to hit him up. I'm not going to say your name, Mike, but Mike. Come on now. Low hanging fruit. Come on now, Mike.

It's time to pick the low hanging fruit. All right, Jaquese. It's good to see you. It's been a week. As always, it's been a week. Today, we have a fantastic guest. See, sometimes you get these guests in where they actually, they're doing shit. You know what I mean? This person is, you know, written for The Guardian.

I heard of that. Maybe you've seen some of their fantastic documentary work on AJ+. I know I have. And I know I just educated myself just by watching two videos. Now I feel like I don't have to go to college. Not only is this person a fantastic journalist, documentarian, filmmaker, producer, editor. I mean, they wear all the hats.

It's also a three-time Beard Foundation nominee. For somebody like me who loves food, I can't think of something that excites me more than to speak to somebody with a Beard Foundation nomination. Also Emmy nominations. Also Webby Awards. Please welcome, for the first time, Yara Elmjoui! Damn, damn, damn!

Yara! Guys, that was very kind. I don't know what the digital version of blushing is. How are you, Yara? I'm good, I'm good. Lovely to be here with you two. Okay, tell me about, okay, I'm just going to jump into it because I saw your Twitter bio when it said three time Beard Foundation nominee. What? OK, what's going on? Tell me, because I know you do. You love food that intersects with a lot of the work you do at AJ Plus.

But can you just tell me a little bit about your very good beard? You got a good fizzle job and a nice beard. He's not so into fine dining. He's like, yeah, that would be a Beard Foundation winner. This is only five or six days, I think. I'm about to shave it. I'm very much into the clean shaven thing. So this will go away and they'll come back next week, six days from now.

Claim your Beard Foundation nomination. Exactly. It's double on top. No. So, yeah. So, I mean, where should I start with that? We had never really submitted to the James Beard Foundation Media Awards. And I think we launched our show about four years ago. It's called Eat This with Yara. It was originally called In Real Life. And we rebranded very quickly because the food focus just started to become so much more apparent in terms of our interests in terms of direction things were going and we made an episode about um basically why don't we have native american restaurants on every street corner in the united states it's the original food of the land that we today call america or the united states or what have you right and yet there aren't that many native american branded at least restaurants you know there obviously are indigenous ingredients in

all the foods you know from mexican, and so on and so forth. But yeah, so we basically were like, what's the deal with this? And we looked into it, we interviewed various indigenous chefs in the Southwest, specifically, and then went up to Colorado. And through that story, by featuring kind of these chefs within the indigenous community, we then kind of shifted gears to be like, alright, so now you've seen what you know, Native American cuisine can look like in the year, you know, 2018, which is when we released this. But why don't we have, let's go back to the original question, why don't we have them on every street corner? And then, you know, frankly, we shift gears and

go straight into, I mean, it comes down to a couple things, but genocide and, you know, wiping off these, the native peoples of this land, you know, through colonization, as more and more European colonists came to this place, that was the reason. So the documentary shifts gears, off these the native peoples of this land you know through colonization as more and more european colonists came to this place that was the reason so the documentary shifts gears it's very fun and light-hearted it's showing off amazing native american cuisine shifts to that history and even parts of the history that aren't really talked about in our textbooks like we all heard about the trail of tears right that's something that comes up in the you know in middle school or whatever elementary school uh but there's also another there's so many versions of that that

have happened that we don't hear about such such as the Long Walk, which the Navajo community experienced, right? And this is just replicated across the country, you know, folks being dispossessed of their land. So yeah, that's kind of that. We put it out there. It was the longest thing I'd ever made. It was like 20 minutes, you know, me and my colleagues. And then we like submitted to the James Beard Foundation. We're like, well, this is about food and history and all these things. And, you know, we were very pleasantly surprised to win that nomination. And then, you know, we went on and on. And that kind of became the theme of the show, food and social justice, food and science, food and the environment.

And you do it really well. I mean, because like you're saying, you there's so many things we're like, well, why isn't what's what's why isn't this thing happening? And it's almost like and the answer is the sordid history of the united states like every time uh and we'll talk about actually your latest video a little bit later on uh because i think it's a really really interesting like there are just things i was even sort of thinking uh just from my own personal history as it relates to the latest video you put out as it relates to foraging and no trespassing signs. So we'll talk about that. But Yara, let's tell some of the people, let's actually, let's tell

all the people what we're going to be talking about before we get to know you a little bit better. First, we just have to talk a little bit, maybe a lot of it about Madison Cawthorn. We kept touching on the sort of development of this story throughout the week. Like he was saying, he was going, he got invited to cocaine, sex orgies and shit and all the republicans are like okay who say come out with the names or this is all nonsense that story has been evolving to the point where now he he may lose his congressional seat via the primary challenge we'll get into that we'll talk about how biden is you is transitioning away from immigrant detention facilities to now more just surveillance devices that are almost essentially like light torture

devices. So we'll look at that, I guess, policy shift. I don't know what they're calling it, but yeah, we'll take a look at that. We'll talk again. Like I said, Yara, your latest documentary about no trespassing. We'll talk about the origins of no trespassing signs. Spoiler alert. I think you already know what we're going to say because fucking racism. And then we'll talk. You know, I feel like this week we've seen a few tech things that we just bring up. We're like, what the fuck is going on with all this technological shit?

I don't understand. Well, Dyson, the vacuum people have now made headphones that are also an air purifier and i'm it's it doesn't look like it's any does any type of good so we'll talk about that but first yara let us know something from your search history that reveals a little bit about who you are so uh i believe your producer kind of prepped me for this. So I actually had to look through it. And it's so funny what we discover about ourselves

when we do this. The fans are listening, Yara. The fans are listening. I got a couple of things for you guys. I'm going to run through a few of them. OK, so weirdly, there's a classic Joanne the Scammer video from 2016.

Welcome to my Caucasian home. Yes, which for whatever reason came up at a conversation with friends over dinner and she's like oh i'm one of my friends like i've never heard of that and so i pulled up the video and just re-watched it for my own viewing pleasure uh that was a lot of fun basically she hides out in a in a white woman's home pretends like the the home is hers and then the white woman re-enters and anyways it's just a funny who does who does this again what color is this person jo Joanne the Scammer.

Brandon Miller. I think he's biracial. He's black. Yeah, I think so. You've never seen him? He's the light-skinned dude. He has green eyes, and he would wear this blonde wig. And he's like, come with me. He's like, this place is all Caucasian. We'll go into stores and shit and fuck with people

and just act like this white woman. No, I've never seen this. Oh, wow. I gotta watch it. I honestly, you know, I feel like Joanne the Scammer is kind of the origin, like without Joanne the Scammer, we don't get Scam Goddess with Lacey. Because Joanne the Scammer was kind of putting scammer terminology like into the zeitgeist or just like the way this character was.

I feel like kind of brought up our love for this this idea of scamming so yeah i love that he was staying in white people's houses and uh oh it's so funny yeah he's oh he he is actually he is puerto rican and black okay okay so he so he he's brown enough to to for this to have an element of danger well yeah i mean it's not like full blown it's not like like jackass pranks and shit being like i'm gonna go into this way it's just the vibe is always about as if you know it's a comedic bit yeah but it's super super funny it's so funny yeah he just goes in he's like look at these malaysian tiles that i have let me open my fridge oh there's this uh pellig pellig pellig

pelligrino he's just kind of like i don't know going through yoga mat i feel like the there was i think there was a cameo in a tyler perry movie and that was like the heights of it that it reached for that character but come on now bro bro. I'm black. I don't watch Tyler Perry movies. I mean, when I said family, you know, like the last, I can't, did you ever see a Tyler Perry movie in the theater? Hell no. The one I saw was, what the fuck was it? Maybe the second or third one.

I went with my grandparents because they were like, they were being like, we went to the Tyler Perry play. Oh, I've been to a Tyler Perry play before. I've been to a Tyler Perry play. my grandparents because they were like they were being like we went to the tyler perry play oh i've been to a tyler perry play before i've been to a tyler perry play yeah and then my grandparent's like i'm joking everybody praise praise be the king perry all right the king t what else you got in your all right so let's see i came across there was a reddit thread about um russians who were eating expired military rations and they were then comparing this to the Ukrainian military rations, which were much better, much fresher. Yeah.

More nutritious and more delicious. And there was like a YouTuber who went ahead and like ate a Ukrainian ration. And was like, oh, my God, there's apricot in here. Look at this delicious stew. And then the Russian ones just meanwhile expired. And yeah, very tasty. Let's see. Go through dining chair.

I'm trying to find through dining chair i'm only i'm trying to find some dining chair you know tiny chairs for a table i just got facebook marketplace what makes a good dining chair yeah you know i'm looking for one that's like 18 inches high because i sat at the table the table's a little bit higher so that's kind of the thing i don't want to be reaching up for the table yeah that's kind of my my main metric yeah do you need back so back support is important armrests uh yeah what are we talking back support would be good yeah back support is the only thing i'm i'm i need armrests like i don't mind the ones i'm looking at don't have armrests so that's kind of

a more mundane one then also the airbus a380 apparently is now partly they just ran a test uh they can now fly with this airplane with cooking oil partly not entirely but they use cooking oil yeah it's crazy and that's kind of the future right sustainability right so they're working to make it 100 cooking oil i think that'll happen the next 10 years like you know like like this shit like we were talking about like in the early outs you're like this this van is powered by fry like french French fry oil basically. Like that base, that same kind of like waste oil. I think it's a similar thing. Yeah. Wow. That was a fascinating, again, not 100%

yet, but yeah. I'm going to have to, if they start doing this, I'm going to have to start asking before I fly. So what gas y'all flying with? Can I get one of them gasoline planes real quick? Are you saying you don't trust the fry oil plane? I don't trust, no oil plane i don't trust nah i'm

gonna need i'm gonna need a few years of flight before i trust the frying oil hey it works man it works and it smells great actually that's how they're gonna get people and like come on now we cooked some chicken in this earlier you know you won't even get on this plane they're like i was actually thinking about that like the 737 max 8 and the flights that you know you won't even get on this plane. They're like, fine. I was actually thinking about that. Like the 737 MAX 8 and the flights that, you know, the mishaps that happened with that plane. Yeah. I'm kind of thinking how they started to list it next to the information

when you were buying a ticket. Just so you know, it's like, it's not the one that had the fucked up sensor that was making them all nose dive. Like it's the better one. That's interesting too, because like part of me you know as we see the the the price of oil and gas go up that we're like you're seeing so many different takes of people being like see this is why the fuck we need electric cars and hybrids

and shit because not only is it doesn't mean we're cutting down on emissions but it means greater national security or less you know resource-based conflict and i like that i guess maybe just out of the pure need of capitalism they're like fuck man this jet fuel is fucking too much man like is there some shit we can cut this corn oil yeah so if we get there fuck it so. So be it. I'm just thinking like people going to the grocery store and being like, I'm going to get some of this airplane fuel slash corn oil.

They put like a sticker on it. It's a double. It says airplane fuel. They're like, okay, Mazola. I see you out here. You start seeing that on like a side of a Formula One racing car. It's like Mazola. It's like all these cooking oils are now the fuel sponsor.

Honestly, it sounds more like a fuel company than it does a cooking oil company. That's true. Mazola, I would believe. Yeah, 100%. Hey, easy transition for y'all. Just go to petrol products. What's something you think is overrated, Yara? Okay, so this I had to think about.

Overrated, there's a couple things. I don't know if I'm going to get a hate here. I think Shake Shack is overrated. Oh, yeah. Okay, all right, we're in agreement. I mean, I'm just saying go ahead and say it because people a lot of times come on and they're like, I don't know, this is a hot take, man. In-N-Out sucks.

And I'm like, yeah, I mean, it's fine. I eat it, but I've lost the energy to defend it. Wait, tell me specifically because Shake Shack for us in L.A. was like, yeah, I mean, it's fine. I eat it, but I'm not going to, I've lost the energy to defend it. Wait, tell me specific because Shake Shack for us in LA was like, oh shit. Shake Shack. And I was fucking with it. I remember that first week I had it like three times the first week. And then it's like when I'm around, sure, I'll get it. But what is, what's the perspective from you?

Cause you live in New York, right? Yeah. Yeah. I live in New York. I'm from California. I do prefer In-N-Out when that question comes up. I like their fries. I don't care if they're not as crispy or whatever.

Anyways, but Shake Shack. I just feel like their burgers are kind of dry and like given all the like fuss about them, it's like, oh my God, there's a Shake Shack opening up. And you know, it doesn't really, yeah, the burger's just kind of dry. It's not juicy. I much prefer In-N-Out.

It's like, it's more moist. It's more tender. I much prefer In-N-Out's. It's more moist. It's more tender. I don't know if they cook it a little bit less. It's all the salt. I don't know how it works. Yeah. They salt that patty. That's interesting.

So that's kind of the thing. Because I normally find Shake Shack burgers to be greasy. Oh. Not so much. Not like moist as in like a nice moist burger on the inside. Just greasy. As in like the, what's the shit that goes? The inside but greasy as in like the the the what's the shit that goes the bun i couldn't think of the word bun the bun that goes yeah it'd be i'd

be feeling it but so that's what i get from shake shack so it's interesting that you find them to be a little more dry maybe maybe new york uh i don't know i see the i see the greasiness and i think the dryness also comes from They purposely smash it And that gets that browning Of the meat Which creates a lot of flavor But you also get a lot of juice

Yeah exactly Two different things Juice and grease are not the same And that's the problem we have in this country Is that we are mistaking juice for grease That's what I keep saying Although I will say from Shake Shack I like Shake Shack it's okay Exactly. And that's the problem we have in this country is that we are mistaking juice for grease. Yeah. You know, that's what I keep saying. Although I will say from Shake Shack, I like Shake Shack. It's OK.

But I will say the like I don't love it. It's OK. It's just it's whatever. It's a burger. It's expensive. I can go get a double double for like four dollars cheaper. But I do love them. I do love the cheese crinkle cut fries. Those hit those do hit the animal style, cut fries. Those hit. Those do hit. Are they animal style, though? Are they better than animal style? I don't like animal style. People don't like In-N-Out fries. Yara, I'm with you.

I purposefully order them soft. I ask for light fries. I said, let me get light fries. They're like, oh, shit, you really got nobody in your corner. But what's the best burger in New York? Would you say? village okay it is the most simple thing it's just meat diced onions i think there's a pickle a slice of cheese i don't think they put anything else in their buns are perfectly soft and supple and they are tender they have the browning going on the shake shack has without the loss of juice and tenderness it's just like holy shit it's so simple it's a bunch of like college kids there late night you know folks yeah yeah it's not like a sit down place It's so simple. It's a bunch of like college kids there, late night, you know, folks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like a sit down place. You grab your burger, you go. It's cheap. It's affordable. It's delicious. And it's been, I think one of the Bella, Bella Hadid or Gigi Hadid, one of them went to it and then it got, you know, some notoriety after that.

So amazing place, cheap, delicious. Highly recommend. Okay. Hell yeah. Yara, what is something that you think is underrated? Okay. So I had a couple more overrated ones, but for the underrated one, let me see if I can get a good controversial one in here.

I'm going to stick to the topic of food. I think, okay, so maybe this requires a little bit of a preface. So I'm going to say that fusion food is underrated. And the reason I'm saying that is because in a lot of like, I feel like I'm going to get a ton of hate for this, but I feel like a lot of cooks that I know, chefs that I know hate the word fusion. I was just at a place with a buddy of mine a few weeks ago. And then one of the restaurant owner came out to talk to us and they're like, Oh no, I hate that word. Don't call it fusion. Don't, Oh, that's disgusting. And I'm like, you know, okay, fine. You don't want to use the word fusion. Let's call it

creative mixing amalgamation. I don't know, use the word fusion. Let's call it creative mixing, amalgamation. I don't know. Creative cooking. Whatever you want to call it. When two cuisines come together, when you put miso paste in your French beef bourguignon, that tastes amazing. That's Japanese, French. Who cares? You don't want to call it fusion. You can call it whatever you want.

Hybridization. Biracial food. I love that concept. I love it. I like that. I'm trying to think of fusion foods that I like. I don't know, Miles.

You're both from California and I'm even thinking about going back to Chicago. I feel like the word fusion or the tag fusion doesn't get thrown on as many restaurants that are fusion-type restaurants. Like, you get a lot of Asian fusion restaurants, you know. But, yeah, I'm trying to think of some

that I can readily remember. It's like new Asian. Yeah. It's like, you know, Korean tacos are a thing. Yes, okay. Like everything Roy Choi's doing. Yeah. It's like, you know, Korean tacos are a thing. Yes. Okay. Like everything Roy Choi is doing. Yeah. Okay.

I love it all. It's great. I mean, there's just so many. I mean, in general, it's all food isn't bound to become fusion anyway, right? Because you can't fucking silo these cuisines. It's like you can't silo music, like all music now. You look at every artist. Some artist is doing some version of unless you're

doing like folkloric fucking music you're already inherently going to be dabbling with other styles and shit like that and it's only to our benefit so like i get that the because the tag feels very like 90s 80s cuisine like this is welcome this like french fusion yeah right right right at the end of the day like you look even look at some of like the cool uh like black restaurants that are in la they're they're they're they're sort of doing a upscale version of soul food with like elevated techniques or cooking and that's already fusion but we're still calling it soul food but we're just saying it's new soul whatever and you know look around everybody we see it all around us. Everything.

You're fusing so many things. Yeah. I mean, like I had a thing about like, even if you look at like, you know, where ingredients travel and come from, even if I can like, you know, refer back to our Native American cuisine doc, like I learned from that as well as through the book, you know, Guns, Germs and Steel, like that a lot of the ingredients we might see in Italian food, other places, chilies, tomatoes, chilies, potatoes, beans, corn, squash, all these things originate in the Americas, North and South America. Right. And so now it travels to Italy, the tomato, and they start using it. No one bats an eye. Right. It's like, oh, yeah, marinara sauce, Italian spaghetti, meatballs, Italian. But that is a fusion food. And the

noodles are from China. That's not even really... That fusion is okay because a couple hundred years have passed, but the other fusions are not okay. Right, right, right. I don't know. Peanut butter and jelly is a fusion. Where peanut butter from? That's America, right?

Where jelly? Where jelly? Jelly's Britain. When you put ranch on pizza, that's fusion. Oh, exactly. You know what I mean? People don't realize. Hawaiian pizza, Walgreens sushi.

Yeah, I mean, that is an abomination. Yeah, that's a different type of fusion, probably. My Japanese side will not allow me to view such a terrible, terrible transgression of our culture. But, you know, everything's fusion baby you know gotta let it cook because you know shout out to people like our good friend jamie loftus who would love nothing more than some gas station sushi so to each their own all right let's take a quick break and then we'll be right back to talk some news i'm jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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you know, especially as he's, you know, he stays with the bigoted takes. And then more recently, you know, he came in with the very odd pro-Putin take being like, man, Vladimir Zelensky is a thug, man. What the fuck is that guy thinking? And people like, what the fuck? Where are you getting your, who are you? And he's to the point where sometimes other Republicansans like yo young man you need to slow down which is very rare you hear that from other republicans well his love of a good story and having the spotlight on him may be causing his you know his uh status as a congressperson it

might be putting that at risk because at the end of last week, we talked about this. Cawthorn went on some podcast decked out in some Christian soldier brand apparel that he's like fucking caping for looking real cool. And when he was asked if working in Congress is anything like House of Cards, he gave a real wild answer that, you know, a lot of people began reporting on. And everything else is good. Aside from that, I mean, the sexual perversion that goes on in Washington, I mean it being kind of a young guy in Washington with the average age of probably 60 or 70 And I look at all these people a lot of them that I you know I've looked up to through my life always paid attention to politics guys that you know then all of a sudden you get invited to like well hey

we're gonna have kind of a sexual get-together at one of our homes you should come and I'm like What what did you just ask me to come to? And then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy. Or the fact that, you know, there's some of the people that are leading on the movement to try and remove, you know, addiction in our country. And then you watch them do, you know, a key bump of cocaine right in front of you. Okay. Hell yeah. So when I saw the headlines, I said, what is wrong with this man?

Then I see the video and I'm like, oh, he's lying. He's just lying. This is not real. He's the whole thing is like, yeah, next thing you know, you're just saying like, come to a sexual get together at my house. Who's having an orgy and calling it a sexual get together? But again, that's that's you know everybody's in their own light so he went on to say this chest out this naturally caused a lot of confusion within the party and in the news here we're like what while many others i'd say naturally just look

at the legal troubles of people like matt gates and they're like oh okay like i see the potential for this because it's not like we've never heard of sex or drug scandals in congress at all but the republicans meanwhile were fucking livid because his comments seem to imply that he is talking about his fellow republicans he's like people i look up to man and then they're you don't you think a democrat is going to be like hey man madison why don't you come through to our fuck party later that's yeah again that's even harder to believe than any of this shit. So they're like, who are you talking about? Who are you trying to say in the party is having these orgies and doing key bumps and shit? And it caused all these fucking problems that, as we talked about in a previous trending episode,

minority leader Kevin McCarthy basically snatched him by the neck and said, yo, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, this is terrible. You're clearly showing that you are probably not ready to even be in Congress because of the way you're behaving. And this is like the really funny part, right? McCarthy. So a reporter was talking to Kevin McCarthy and they said, hey, did he ever tell you about like who he saw? about like who he saw. And McCarthy says when, when asked if like he can name people, Cawthorn quote,

thinks he saw maybe a staffer in a parking garage, maybe a hundred yards away and that he doesn't know what it was. That is everything he was hinging his story on was that he saw somebody from a hundred yards away in a parking garage. We just talked about off Mike going to a concert. I've seen Beyonce from a hundred yards away. I could barely tell it was her except for the, the warming glow that was emanating from her body. But other than that,

I, it's so different. How, who has that kind of eagle eyed vision? You know, the funny thing about this is I don't know why republicans are funny man i don't necessarily know why he would lie about this but right outside of him just being stupid because he's young and he feels like oh this is what young people lie about right and lying has

just come second nature right to him but you know the funny thing is a lot of sex and drugs go on in congress even with these republicans but they probably just be like yo but shut the fuck up and if you don't say something don't lie about don't lie like there's a lot of truth you can say like don't don't tell a lie about it with evan hurst at wonkat kind of pointed out an interesting thing, right? Because he's like a self-styled evangelical. And, you know, in these circles, right, you can you can give your testimony, right? You talk about how you were saved, like at church.

You talk to other people at church and you give your testimony about this. This is how bad my life was till I was saved by Christ. Or you talk about how you're able to resist things and only through the the power and the strength of salvation was i able to say no to these you know satanic temptations and he was sort of speculating he's like this also sounds like this he's going around other people in the evangelical world and kind of trying to like pump up his shit he's like man look at the shit i'm around and i'm still resisting because I'm the strength I derived from Christ. So there is there are elements of that to it as well.

But this is the thing that really bugs me. Right. So Kevin McCarthy, he's trying to get on his high horse and he's saying things like, quote, this is unacceptable. There is no evidence to this. He changes what he tells. And that's not becoming of a congressman. He did not tell the truth. That's unacceptable. Now, what is the this is the thing that really blows my mind is they are getting more bent out of shape for his like freshman year liar act than all of the racist murder type shit that other people in the party are saying. And it's just wild to see all this energy be like, I can't believe he's lying about this stuff. Lying is not who we are as Republicans and Congress. Mm hmm. and it's just wild to see all this energy be like i can't believe he's lying about this stuff lying is not who we are as republicans and congress well you know that's because the racist shit

they want their base to you know know that hey under the undertones of this is here uh beginning your dick wet is something they don't want their base to know about they want their base to think the dick stay dry you know that's what they want right because they want everybody everyone's chased right yeah everybody's still into this idea of the yeah this uh evangelical pure person but i don't know just it the other thing about it is just so transparently feels like when you look at that clip that he does also he does feel like some dude that's lying you know what i mean i feel like we've all experienced people like this in our lives where they're like yo what was it like what was it like over there let me

tell you okay and then you're like man you're lying this shit is true that's that had big liar energy i don't know what you think what did don't know. Would you think this was cool? Would you think would you would would this make Republicans more cool to you if they was having drug and orgy parties? Like this, this image is very much like there's no drugs. We don't have sex. We are, you know, maybe perhaps you saw Trump even holding up the Bible right, right outside. And I don't think I don't think that that family is particularly pious. No, no. So there's very much it's very much an image game. So when you see a lot of Republicans, I think Marjorie Taylor Greene, Kevin McCarthy, they're all condemning.

Oh, my God, I can't believe he said this. Let's disown him. Right. I think, you know, on the one hand, right? Did he lie? Did he not lie? Whatever, whatever he saw, whether it was 100 yards away, whether or not the bigger thing, I think this reveals to me is, is you see the reaction from the rest of the party. And that to me is like, Oh, God, we we cannot be our image, the image that we are selling to people is now being besmirched good god let's let's eliminate this bruise from our beautiful right skin or whatever yeah this perfect visage that we have that we show to the world when you're like y'all are so transparently hateful but your problem is y'all fuck and do blow. Okay. And also the key bump thing.

A lot of people speculating. You're like, how are you going to use words like Kiba? That's a very specific order. Madison, what, where'd you learn that? It was to the point where even I saw the,

I think it was the Webster's or Miriam Webster's dictionary. Twitter account was like, there's a lot of talk of key bumps. So please allow us to further illuminate this. Oh, that's what that shit was a couple days ago yeah did a whole thread on sniffing coke off the fucking key yeah okay so anyway that's where that lies and now at this point you know you have other people in the party and like prominent north carolina politicians who are now coming out to support his primary challenger to basically see like, nah, it's a wrap. So, you know, I guess he flew too close to the sun. Yeah. Young Madison. Okay. I also want to just kind of put some attention on the Biden administration for a

second. I know that I think as of Thursday, there's talk about right now with the Biden administration, a shift in the policy on title 42, which is essentially saying that was the thing that the government was saying, like, because of COVID, you know, we can't really let people in even if you're seeking asylum. And then once the immigration laws begin to change, like, OK, but if you're from Ukraine, that's all good. All you other brown people, I mean, you have to sit tight. And many people like this makes no sense. Like the Title 42 doesn't even make sense at this point. If you're making exceptions for what you're saying, like that Ukrainians are less likely to have. What is the logic here? So while all that's going on, there's also been some other things as it relates to immigration that have been bubbling in the back.

And, you know, there have been headlines saying, you know, Biden to stop holding undocumented families in detention centers or U.S. to close or scale back troubled immigration detention centers. But in this budget proposal, right, he's actually taking back like 25 percent of the bed capacity at immigration detention facilities and just ending like a contract with a problematic operator of a detention facility. And you're just kind of like, oh, okay, so he's just like, 25% better than Trump, like, because he's asking for less, what is the actual policy? And so if there's a replacement, right, and his replacement is electronic monitoring, which either means regular check ins via an app or an actual monitor, like an ankle monitor that

has to be worn. And right now there are more than 200,000 people equipped with a monitoring device, which is more than double the number from last year. And you look at like, who's running this? It's the same stinky cast of characters, BI Incorporated, who's a subsidiary of GEO Group, which is like a gigantic private prison company this is kind of like their new thing and they just got like another two billion a couple years ago to keep running this program and when you just sort of like look at how this all starts right bi incorporated they quite literally started as a cattle monitoring business okay That their technology was to track non-human life forms. And that's, this is the evolution that we're seeing now is to now say, you know what,

let's put it on people where the statistics say people do come, they do check in when they need to, to stay up to date with their immigration status. But let's add this like level of, you know, fucking policing. So people feel safe, even though it's absolutely not necessary. And you look at like what these, what the actual experience is like, it's just really, really fucking terrible. So, you know, again, not to just make someone feel like, Hey, you got to put this tag on you because you're illegal. Most of the people who have these monitors have to wear it for at least a year. And some have worn them from seven to 10 years. And just to look at kind of the things that what happens,

the experience of wearing an ankle monitor, they like overheat. They've given people electric shocks, which deprive them of sleep. The app that if you're lucky enough to use the app is super glitchy and people miss check-ins and things like that. And case managers have been told, you know, someone says, Hey, I missed the check-in and I actually really need to, I need help, uh, leaving a situation I'm in. Cause I'm in an abusive relationship. And like someone who is one of these case workers asked the management to be like, Hey, is there a way

that we can help this person? They were allegedly told you're supposed to be hard on these people. Yeah. Like don't, don don't don't suddenly have empathy. And I saw a story. Sorry, I saw I saw I saw a story today. And that's what this reminds me of is somebody who's on house arrest right now got a call at two forty five a.m. for a check in. for a check-in and if like he wouldn't have picked up he said he would have technically missed his check-in and could have you know got in trouble that's a violation right that's a violation right 2 45 a.m he's sleeping that's a fucking that's that's sleep time and it just makes me think they do this type of shit and it feels like they do this in hopes of how can we make this as inconvenient and as uncomfortable as possible.

So if, you know, people get violations, it's much easier just to be like, hey, you violated, you got to go. Or you violate it like punishment, punishment, as opposed to working with people. You want to stack the deck against people. It's terrible. You look at even the experience of the people who have to be, you know, surveilled. 88% of surveilled people, like immigrants, like according to this poll, had mental health issues, trouble sleeping, migraines, and depression. And 12% had, you know, ideation around self-harm because of just the dehumanizing experience of being monitored and having to wear this ankle monitor. And also, you know, it hampers their ability to even work. You know, employers are reluctant to hire someone who have like a beeping ankle monitor.

Like other people, if you're like in a workplace and people are like sort of have an innate just being like, yo, is immigration going to come through because you got this ankle monitor on? Like, I don't want you working here or like just treating people hostile because of it. It's just become a really huge problem. And it's not just here. It's happening in Canada. It's also in the UK. And it's just something really, you know, we see a lot of like articles that are like, oh, wow, like look at this humane shift. But like deep down, we're just looking at other ways that are making someone's, you know, already terrible experience trying to escape the living situation of their one country even worse by just trying to find some peace when you seek asylum. So keep your eyes peeled for that.

Let's let's take a quick break and we'll come right back to talk about foraging and no trespassing science. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former

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to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite.

I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked voila you got straightway i felt like i was living in north korea but worse if that's possible listen to spiraled on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and before i threw it a break, I mean, Yara had the best transition out of that human monitoring piece into his latest piece on AJ Plus about foraging, like urban foraging and no trespassing signs. And I'll allow you to do still. Is that pivot still valid? still valid yeah we can pivot i mean it's going to pivot a little bit into the documentary but um let's do it miles to the point that you just brought up right it's like they're making it so

easy to quote unquote violate the rules with these ankle bracelets right it reminds me basically the history that that's presented in our documentary too uh after the civil war after the end of enslavement uh there was a moment in time aside from the trespassing stuff which i'll get to but there were a series of laws passed in the south called the black codes yeah and basically one of these one of the many codes was like there's a number of things that required of newly free black americans to do for example it's really really fucked up like you have to call your employer master for example or beyond that there's some really like just bizarre like there's one that's like switching jobs was illegal yeah right and not having a job for whatever period of time let's say you're searching for a new job you just left your previous one not having a job also illegal

and they would call you a vagrant quote unquote so you're just kind of walking out on your own grabbing some groceries as you're applying to your next job. That's a crime. Right. So they made it so easy for black Americans to be charged with crimes. So that's what they would do. The police would come arrest them or give them a fine, essentially. And the fines were so insanely high that no ordinary person, literally no ordinary person at that time could pay them. So what would end up happening is that black Americans were essentially having to work in a forced labor situation again, just like the period of enslavement,

to pay off the fine. So this was a way for kind of white southerners at the time to continue as many of the circumstances of slavery without actual quote unquote, a word called slavery. Right, right. We'll just make it impossible to exist as a free person and then yeah yoink we can we can create some laws to uh find you in violation of your newly experienced freedom yeah this documentary is really it's it was really dope so in it you are talking with uh black forager from tiktok and sort of like again all your pieces start off with food right and like how how much food abounds you know in our urban environments or wooded areas that are edible if you just know what they are and how to prepare them forage them etc and then

then you there's like the moment in the documentary it's like well you know there it is hard to get to certain places like you can only really forage in these like public spaces because of these things we see all around us, no trespassing signs. And for me, I'm always like, yeah, man, private property, people don't want you on their fucking property. And then you start, then you begin to really explain sort of the evolution of the no trespassing sign, you know, like in using foraging as a jumping off point, but like, walk us through just a little bit of like how we went from the newly found freedom for people who are who are coming from Britain to the American colony, and how that sort of evolved into these like no trespassing laws we see now. Totally, totally. The history is just insane and fascinating.

And, you know, so I mean, to start off with basically, people who came the original settlers, you know, colonists who came to colonize this land, you know, America, the United States, what have you, a lot of them were basically charged with crimes in the UK, or in Great Britain, I should say. And so one of those crimes was poaching or hunting illegally on someone else's private property or what have you, right. So these people were then deported, right, quote unquote, criminals to this new land for this crime. And so because they had been penalized for basically trespassing, quote unquote, and hunting out people's lands, these colonists were like, hell no, we are not having any

trespass laws in this fantasy new land that is ours. LOL, it's not theirs but whatever so they're here they're like no trespassing you can freely walk anywhere gather berries mushrooms you know shoot a rabbit shoot a deer eat it hunt it fish wherever you want this is this is the new land that we have right of course again they didn't include black and indigenous people in that definition it was mainly for white kind of European colonists. But anyways, that's the law. That's that's kind of what they set out to do. But this all of a sudden changes. Right. And before I should before I should get to the change, I should also say that that foraging for wild foods and so forth, everyone did that. So so a lot of black Americans at that time during the period

of enslavement, you know, the food that the white landowners were handing out was not sufficient. It was not great. So they would fill out their diets with, you know, hunting that they would do on the side, they would maybe have a little a little plot of land where they can grow a little something, and then foraging wild, you know, fruits, berries, what have you to fill out those diets. Anyways, now, basically, when the Civil War happens, and after the Civil War, 1865, slavery is abolished, then what ends up happening is, and the researcher kind of describes this, how he noticed it when he was looking through land and legal documents. He's like, the United States, you know, the country is destroyed, right? It just went through a civil

war, right? And instead of passing like a ton, a shit ton of laws about reconstruction, which they did eventually do, but instead of doing that up first, like, oh, my God, let's fund this reconstruct this building, reconstruct that building, they started passing laws about trespassing, which he was like, I kept noticing this again, and again, again, I'm like, why the hell, after the country has been ravaged, right, everyone, you know, hospital, people are dead, there's people who have missing limbs, and they're walking on whatever, instead of passing laws to help those people and build the country, you are passing laws about trespassing. Why could this be? And he traces it down. I mean, this is like a 10 year research project that this dude has spent time on. And basically was like, there is no other reason besides what he calls racialized labor control. Basically,

newly freed black Americans now in the economy now living, you know, trying to live free lives. And the former kind of white landowners who held plantations and whatever in the economy now living, you know, trying to live free lives. And the former kind of white landowners who held plantations and whatever in the south were like, No, we want to continue as many of the conditions of slavery as possible. And so passing trespassing laws was one way to do that. How did it do that? It was basically by limiting black Americans from foraging and filling out their diets and supplementing their diets with other foods that they would find. So they basically wanted to I mean, this is very graphic, but they wanted to starve newly freed black Americans back into confinement, back into working for the plantation.

In other words, come and work for me. That's your only option. You cannot find food for yourself. And so they got these laws passed initially. And that kind of explains the spread of no trespassing laws. Obviously, today they exist for a completely different reason if somebody has a no trespassing law you know whatever it doesn't mean that they're racist or whatever but the spread of them in this country the rapid rapid spread has a lot to do with racism you know against because the energy prior to that was like yeah fuck it man yeah eat that i don't know yeah exactly shoot that hunt that whatever jump over my fence and grab berries i don't know exactly shoot that hunt that whatever jump over my fence and grab berries i don't care right it's like what and all of a sudden this

suddenly changed when all of a sudden it's like black americans doing it so it's you know it comes back so many of the histories whether it's the hit we can go into so many things with this but yeah that's very interesting because you know like miles, you know, you it's very funny how this shit is ingrained in us because I was just think, oh, no trespassing. Oh, yeah, sure. You know, it's private property. I don't want you eating my berries. I don't trust you, blah, blah, blah. All these type of things that we've just been taught and, you know, put into our system, put into our system in our mental capacities. you know, put into our system, put into our system and our mental capacities. But, you know, it's crazy to hear. Oh, yeah. Before that, people was like, oh, you want some berries? Yeah, that's what it's there for. Come get them. And then when black people was like, oh, word.

Yeah, I want some berries. Hold on, niggas. Hold on. Yeah, man. I don't know where you've been at. I don't know. I don't know you. I don't know what you're going to do if you come on my property, you know, and it's just and how that mindset is like gotten passed down. And or yeah, or even just the idea, right? Like I was raised to never go on somebody else's property. I was just that was just something inherently I was told from my dad, my grandpa, just like, yo, don't fucking go. You don't don't just walk up on that person's lawn or some shit. You don't know what the fuck's going on. There's, there's an inherent, there's this like subconscious idea that there are spaces you can't access. Right. And you think about how much of that is directly tied back to people who have been newly freed saying, I need, I'm trying to find a way to survive and have access to these certain things. But then suddenly you have these laws that are criminalizing your existence

and your way of living. And just how that sort of idea too, like, it's funny, like I remember being like, as kids, you know, some of my white friends were like, oh, let's go run up on this doing ding dong ditch shit. And I was like, I don't know about that shit. I'm not trying to run up on somebody's fucking,

like, you know, for a myriad of reasons. But that there's always this sort of consistent emphasis on the idea that there are spaces that are limited for some people and other people do have access and it's just it's just wild how so much of it you're like truly like fuck of course we're there's a straight line from that to slavery or like you know when people discover like tipping is a relic of slavery as well literally i was just about to bring that up too tipping is the same as i mean it's a long history we'd have to go into it but similar the united you know white americans very opposed to tipping because it represented class and they're like we don't like great britain everything is

about class and you're lesser and you're more and you're greater and i'm lesser we don't want that this is america democracy freedom everyone's the same yeah, then we bring it bring in the issue of race. Then, you know, how do people start feeling? Well, they don't feel comfortable tipping other white Americans because it would indicate lower status. You tip people who are lower than you. But then all of a sudden, when it comes to black Americans, oh, all of a sudden, everyone's okay with tipping. And then the culture fully changes. And now the states does tipping and and and the uk does not do tipping it's literally right god like history yeah it's it's yeah and so i mean all that to say is yeah the the work that you do in these documentaries are really eye-opening because there there's always a way to have this intersection of like our history and the things that we're doing now. And like, you know, just finding that awareness through just a bit of research, which I think is is is a real great thing. Thank you so much. A documentary question just in general.

Yeah, sure. Because I always find documentaries fascinating from a research standpoint because, you know, like we all are very used to going down rabbit holes, so to say. If you find one thing out, you read a little bit about it and then you just start going down rabbit holes of information and things like that. As a researcher, and it's, you know, quick or as long as you want to talk about it, what is that process of finding the topic, researching it, putting it together? Like what is the, what is the, you know, the process of a documentary of this sort? I think, I think maybe, I guess the part I want to concentrate on is like the ideation part of it. Like how do we get these ideas and how do we connect them to

food and whatever? And honestly, I think the best works that we've we've my team has done and or the works that we're most proud of, I should say, like, it really just comes from daily life inspiration. Like, if we go back to the Native American cuisine piece, though, you know, we opened this episode with like, I was I was traveling, went on a road trip with some friends to the southwest, we went to New Mexico, we went to Arizona, and then, you know with some friends to the Southwest. We went to New Mexico, we went to Arizona, and then we went to the Navajo Nation. And we went to the reservation, went on a tour through what's called Antelope Canyon. It's a beautiful canyon. It's been featured on National Geographic. It's gorgeous. Years, I think centuries of rain has caused this incredible smooth rock, amazing shapes. And obviously there's Navajo guides that, you know,

it's on their land, they organize the whole thing. So we went to go see it. And obviously, there's Navajo guides that, you know, it's on their land, they organize the whole thing. So we went to go see it. And then afterwards, we're like, well, we want to have, you know, what is Navajo cuisine, right? And, you know, we asked our guide, and she was, you know, she was telling us, oh, we don't really have any restaurants around here for us. You know, there was a Burger King, it was a McDonald's, there was a Wendy's, there was a Denny's, there weren't even that many supermarkets, or any, honestly, that had fresh food, it was a food desert, the part of it that we were in. And so I started asking, like, this is so screwed up that, you know, again, the same concept we

brought up, the indigenous people of this land, and there's not a single restaurant that is here. And so we kind of started looking into it. We got back home and kind of finished the trip. You know, me and my co-producer at the time just thinking like what's what's the reason for this and so we look deeper and deeper and there's reddit threads and people and then we come across an author and then we come across another author you know a group of folks who own like a quick service chipotle-esque native american restaurant in colorado and we start to connect the dots and just the in that sort of natural curiosity that comes from a real life lived

experience leads to this, you know, documentary. And it's kind of like at a certain point, you need to kind of cross your fingers, close your eyes and jump into it. Cause they're like, I don't know.

Is there something here? We're calling people. We're talking to people, reading books, reading articles. This there's not really too many articles that are written about this. Why are there native names? There was a national geographic piece. And like, I think one other thing that

was a little tiny piece. So we were kind of, you know, in these uncharted waters, sort of trying to figure out where is the academic paper, who is the leading resource on this. And, you know, we kind of spoke to a lot of indigenous chefs and kind of piece together what they were saying with some of the history. And that's that. So it's very much lived experience. Again, like another piece that I think we're very proud of is about a, I mean, just kind of put it blankly, a phallic shaped clam. And yeah, the geoduck. Exactly. And so that came up from an office conversation, we were going to go to Seattle for another piece. One of our colleagues is from Seattle. It's like, well, if you're doing, if you're down there, why don't you do a quick piece about, you know, this clam? And we're like,

well, there isn't really much history or science element to this piece, you know, but sure, maybe we'll do like a two minute video and just kind of call it a day. And then one of my producers, you know, she uncovered like, well, did you know that this clam is being sold at very exorbitant prices in China? And we're like, okay, interesting, but okay, still. And then she's like, well, you know, who's selling this clam to China and whose lives it has transformed are the indigenous communities of the Pacific Northwest. And we're like, wow. So we started looking into this and this, the sale of this clam, which again is an indigenous American thing and has been consumed by, you know, native American tribes for years, is being sold to China at very high rates. And

that money has allowed them in their communities to provide for social services, scholarships, medical services, services that they didn't have before on the reservation. So, you know, that was like, whoa, this is such an uplifting story. And now they're claiming ownership of it because Washington state, so I can just go on and on about this, but there's a rule or law in Washington state where like 50% of caught fish belongs to Native American communities. So if you are a non-native person and you're fishing, you can only fish so much before they cut you off and say no for the sake of, you know, it's like a reparations kind of thing. The rest of it belongs to them because for years it has been stolen from them.

So that was such an inspiring story and we wanted to talk about that. So long story short, real life experiences, ideas, some Googling, some Reddit threads, rabbit holes, but that honestly to me is the best way. Right, just to naturally let your curiosity take it take it where it needs to but it's about having that the desire and the energy to just keep following it

till you actually arrive at something and and then sure enough every time you do so let's go yeah really amazing work thank you you guys that's very kind of you i mean even today if i could just pop in the ankle bracelet thing i'm'm going to start Googling that today because that that not only makes me very upset, but like, is there what's the story behind that? I mean, yeah, that our carceral technologies are there's a pipeline from fucking agriculture, cattle monitoring to now human monitoring. Yeah. And what's that relationship? Right. Who are the people there and who where'd they get this idea uh well yara thank you so much uh for joining us on the daily zeitgeist today very very very awesome time and i really encourage everybody to check out his work

on aj plus on their youtube channel too because it's there as well but where can people find you and follow you and what's a tweet that you like? Ooh, okay. So we yes, on AJ plus, I'm on it. I'm also personally on Instagram, Twitter. Those are kind of the two main platforms I'm on trying to get on TikTok. But yeah, it's basically first letter of my first name, then my whole last name at Yelm Jui. And a tweet that I like got a few. Okay, so actually, I'm just kind of keeping in theme. I don't think that's about that CEO that took a huge pay cut at his company to give everyone at his company a minimum of like $70,000. Yeah, the long hair kind of avatar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he just tweeted out which is this is a story that's been circulating. But basically $850 million of New York State's annual budget is

going to fund the Buffalo Bills Stadium after york state announced an 800 million dollar cut to child and family services so he tweeted that out and that was just such a you know infuriating thing that happened where you know the state is funding this thing and then the city university of new york also tweeted out how basically that 800 million dollars uh 850 million that's being spent for the stadium could have been used to actually make the city university of new york free for everyone and so those tweets that are circulating about sort of the screwed up nature of that are probably my favorite tweet of the week and also to get back i know we finished on the will smith thing but there's a great reenactment of will smith slapping Chris Rock, but created within the Sims.

You know, yeah, it's two Sims characters, and I just thought the outfits are the same. It's like Oscar's stage. I thought that was fun. Are they talking Sims language, though? They're like, Leepy, Loppy, Loopy. And it's like, Leepy, Leepo, Loppy, Loppo, Poe!

And you're like, Oh! Yeah, no, there's no audio on it if i remember but that was the other thing and yes uh if anyone you know would love yeah we'd love to hear folks opinions in the comments on our new documentary on trespassing laws in the u.s uh it's on youtube instagram all the all the platforms awesome jakees how about you where can they find you Follow you What's a tweet that you're liking Ah you know what it is Everybody You can find me in these streets

Speaking of which If you are in Dallas Texas This weekend Oh shit This is an evergreen But if you are in Dallas Texas this weekend I'm there

We there for Wrestlemania So if you are there Hit me up Let's enjoy Wrestlemania weekend You are in Dallas, Texas this weekend. I'm there. We there for WrestleMania. So if you are there, hit me up. Let's enjoy WrestleMania weekend together. Everybody else, I'll be coming to a city near you sometime. I don't know. Maybe. What's the tweet?

I'm looking for one. You know, Twitter hasn't been funny over the past 24 hours. It's just been annoying for the most part but this one comes from at mevi bear and it is you know when you know you have two things and then a handshake in between and it is zoe kravitz and jeremy lynn prime lasting a good month uh Which is very funny to me I love that Yeah, that's it I don't know, that's it

Yeah, stay off Twitter for the weekend everybody Enjoy the sun Be happy Enjoy this beautiful April weather That we're about to get One last time Since I don't know when I'll be coming back on the TDZ I'm sure it'll be sometime in the

near future, but April 8th, May 8th, Mother's Day, Comedian Feud in LA. Come check it out if you are here. Tickets are now on sale as of right now. Paul F. Tompkins versus the Lauren Lapkus team I'm hosting. It's going to be a good-ass time. It's going to be a good-ass time.

I'm excited for it. I'm going to be busting out the suit. I'm going to be looking snazzy so uh come on out everybody yeah wait are you gonna you're gonna have a nice uh steve harvey suit on you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna be wearing the old deacon pimp suit uh you know i'm gonna have regular ass shoulders you know but i'm gonna have a suit on though i'm gonna i'm gonna i always this show. I haven't done this show in three years. So, you know, it'd be very fun, but I,

whenever I used to do it, I would always bust out the suit. So the suit, I might even buy a new suit for this shit. Oh shit. You know, who knows? I know Paul going to be wearing the suit.

So I gotta be wearing the suit. I can't, I can't host my own show and not let Paul outdress me. Yeah. Well, I mean, you're, you're an excellent host uh so i

think you'll you'll be you'll be just fine it'll be good i'm looking forward to it so come on now let's see some tweets that i like really just this one from uh actually no one is from at no context brits and i'm sorry that this is a picture but i just found it so funny because uh it's just one of those things where it says no one and then the next one says the british museum and it's these two dudes like you know how people go to the leaning tower of pisa and try and like lean on it and shit these dudes framed the leaning tower of pisa as if they were stealing it and putting it in their backpack so anybody who's been to that that british history museum there's a lot of stolen shit up in there so that one really resonated with me because they really they really made it look like they're like yo get

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