The Daily Zeitgeist - Impeachment Fatigue, popBeyONCe 1.30.20

Episode Date: January 30, 2020

In episode 559, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Tiff Stevenson to discuss impeachment updates, if the MSM is getting tired of the impeachment, Trump's New Jersey rally, if a traditional Democrat can win, Trump allies handing out cash to black voters, people thinking Coronavirus is connected to the Corona beer, Popeye believing it inspired the new Ivy Park line, the new Hunger Games book, and more!FOOTNOTES: McConnell Says GOP Doesn’t Have Votes to Block Impeachment Witnesses Trump campaign: New Jersey rally attendance 26.3% Democrats and 10.4% people who didn't vote in 2016 Trump allies are handing out cash to black voters The coronavirus has nothing to do with Corona beer. But, some people seem to think so. Popeyes starts off 2020 strong by selling its employee uniforms fans say look like Beyoncé’s sold-out Ivy Park x Adidas collection Here's What We Know About the Hunger Games Prequel The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes Who's the star of the Hunger Games prequel? Read the exclusive first excerpt Extract from Hunger Games prequel sparks anger among fans The Hunger Games is getting a prequel that centers on the villain: a young President Snow The Hunger Games Pulls a Star Wars With Its Prequel Hero  WATCH: Little Dragon - In My House Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and the sweat on his brow just keeps flowing. That is courtesy of Pod Moran. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! So no one told you life was gonna be Miles Gray. Okay, and that one is from Emilio Gomez. Thank you to Emilio Gomez for that one. Oh, shit. There was somebody else who gave that exact same AKA.

I think a lot of people. Oh, yeah, I see that right here. Also, Corey93488640. Yes. I see that, too. The 9,348,000th, no, 93,000,000th person to try that. To just be Emilio. Oh, Corey.

I'm mixing it up. We are. I think, look, parallel thinking or straight up AKA theft. I don't know. I don't want to get involved. I don't want to start a controversy. You don't. Collective consciousness.

Yeah, exactly. That's right. Exactly. Who's that? This is the light bulb of podcast AKA. Oh, okay. No, Another light bulb was invented by like

five different people at the same time. Who is that? What is that? Who is this? What is this? We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

by the hilarious and talented Tiff Stevenson. Hi. Welcome. Sorry for the early interjection. No, no, not at all. There's no rules on this show.

No rules, just right. I just wanted to say collective consciousness. Yes. Because it gets bounced around a lot of times in comedy circles. If someone thinks someone else has taken a bit. Yeah. Right. Gets bounced around a lot in just the beginning of this podcast, I'd say.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right. The opening lines. Never saw you do it, man. It was just collective consciousness. It's just, yeah, man. I always do period jokes.

Miles, we're going on the road with our time machine. Oh, we're going on the road. Super producer Anna Hosnian. Fire up the Mr. Fusion. Fire it up. We're in Portland tomorrow night. We're in Brooklyn. No, tonight.

We're in Portland tonight. Oh, shit. We got to go. We got to go. We got to go. This is going to be a short episode. I'm out of here. But that's sold out. But Brooklyn isn't.

At the Bell House, February 12th. DC, February 13th. At the Miracle Theater, Minneapolis, February 25th. Minneapolis. Chicago, February 27th. Chicago. Sleeping Village. And Toronto, the grand finale.

Oh, man. February 28th at the Great Hall. You can find those tickets at dailyzeitgeist.com. Go to the live appearances tab. And, yeah, we want to see you. Yeah. All Blue Jays fans, Raptor fans, Leaf Minnesota. I mean, what's that?

Maple Leafs. Toronto. Yeah, I don't know why I said Minneapolis. I think because I was trying to say maple leaves. Is this football or the baseballs? I mentioned basketball, hockey, and baseball just now. Okay. Because it's things that I like.

I like raptors. I'm really into birds. So I was like, is this just things that Tiffany likes or is this teams? What's another thing you like? It might be a team. Well, maple. Okay. And then another one.

Maple syrup. But just remove from those three things. It could be a team. I like lakes. like maple syrup but just remove from those three things it could be a team i like lakes lakes lakers boom got it yeah i like dolphins miami boom yeah mainly just animals and the washington pink hairs you know is another one i've got pink hair so yeah suppose yeah yeah yeah actually not a team but sounds like it kind of might be a euphemism for something and i don't know well they actually have one that's just more overtly racist by calling themselves the Redskins. Yes. They might want to think about it.

Is that still up for debate? Is that still up for debate? Is that still up for debate? Anybody? Maybe. Maybe they should think about that. Also, the Toronto Argonauts. We don't want to forget about our Canadian football red run.

Yeah. Argonauts, like as in the myth of Sinbad. Yeah, Jason, not Sinbad. There was a whole title there waiting. Where did the name Jason come from? Is that from mythology?

It's from 90210. That's what I mean. It sounds like Brett and the Argonauts. I'm like, where did Jason come from? What is an Argonaut again? Is'm like, where did Jason come from? Yeah. What is an Argonaut again? Is it like a Gorgon or not? Or is that a completely?

They were heroes. What is a Gorgon again? From Greek mythology. I'm dumb. Me too. Argo is also a movie that Ben Affleck made about American intelligence people that were actually Canadian intelligence people, he just changed it.

Damn, Jason is just an ancient name. I wouldn't have believed it. Jeremy and the Argonauts. You know that crazy myth about Zeus and Jeremy? Is it biblical? Yeah, I didn't think so.

He's an ancient Greek mythological hero. Actually, the son of Aeson. Aeson. Aesonson? I'm the, yeah. Aesonson. I'm the one man army Aeson. I've never been tooken out.

I keep MCs looking out. Boom. Tiff, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a couple of things we're talking about today. There's a little switcheroo, a little head fake happening with GOP Senate. Mitch McConnell said he doesn't have the votes. We don't have the votes. And then to stop witnesses, he said that on Tuesday night, then by Wednesday,

they were gaining confidence that they would have the votes to stop witnesses and just acquit Trump by end of week. So we're still waiting to see how that shakes out. But I was noticing a overall just sort of zeitgeisty vibe in the mainstream media uh that was basically like damn tired of impeachment man we're over it right as americans fuck it it's one of those things you know why because it unfortunately it's treated like entertainment yeah so if you know the ending it's like right why do we need to look at it? But it's such- Versus when it started, it's like, oh, who knows? And now that we know that there's just no, no one has a spine in the Senate. Yeah. And it's going to play out exactly how most cynical people were thinking it would.

Right. Yeah. I think it's, I guess for the people who report the news, they're like, I don't know, just getting the ratings. It's one of the more clear cut failures I've seen of the mainstream media in my lifetime to just, you know, completely shirk their responsibility as like any sort of civic institution in favor of just being like, this story's old. Let's adopt GOP talking points.

So we'll talk about that. Talk about that Trump rally in New Jersey, Wildwood, close to where I hail from, the Jersey Shore. And yeah, some scary shit. That's what Fox News was talking about. I had a rare night on Tuesday night where I was actually paying attention to what the mainstream media was talking about. And it was troubling. We are going to talk about Trump supporters giving out cash to the black community at rallies supporting him. Wow. Yeah. Wow. That doesn't smack of desperation at all.

We're going to talk about the coronavirus myths. We're going to talk about Popeyes coming for Beyonce's Ivy Park. I don know, whether she was inspired by Popeyes. By their logo colors. I think it's an amazing observation. All of that and plenty more. But first, Tiff, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, I've been on the Goop website.

Yeah. Pick up one of those $75 candles. goop website yeah pick up one of those 75 candles so well uh there was a 700 pair of high-waisted trousers which presumably also smell like gwenis vag right yeah just scratch and sniff because i've long mocked it um i thought it's about time now that they've got their own series on netflix i thought it's about time that i properly went on the site and looked at what they were selling. Then I came across a page of what I can only describe as rage-inducing t-shirts with things like vulva

written on them. And then one that said pegan. Do you know what a pegan is? No, you just drink pee? Piss vegan. Yeah, you just drink piss, right? Piss vegan. How dumb are you and I both our first instinct you only drink pee right

sick I love it I didn't know what it was it stands for half paleo half vegan I don't like that at all can you be half vegan I thought paleo had quite a lot of meat in it that's what I'm saying can you at that point say you're vegan

at all because you are not, by definition, you are eating meat. I don't get it. But my main thought about it is, I guess, is fine, cool if you are. Don't put it on a fucking t-shirt. I don't need to know what your meal plan is. You absolute tragic individual.

This seems to me like it exists in a universe where being a vegan is cool, so they're trying to steal some of the cash I have being a vegan, but being paleo, they're like, we're basically vegan, but we just eat meat only. To me, it doesn't get you or lose you points based on how you eat food.

So in my mind, I'm like, whoa, who? I guess there are people, though, you meet whose dietary or their diet plan is their personality. So, of course, that makes sense. How much are those shirts, by the way? Oh, they're like 55 bucks. Oh, perfect.

Get them out. 55 bucks. I was, the best one I've ever seen of this, I was in China once, and it might have been a slightly lost in translation, but it was mind-boggling to me. was selling a t-shirt that said i like music yeah just boom great non-specific i was like oh cool also like breathing right watching tell what like i like music so does everyone yeah i mean asia is the the home of amazing english t-shirts uh one of the last times i was in japan through this area of Harajuku called Takeshita Dori, which is like the main street.

If you ever go to Harajuku and all the tourists are going down this one narrow alleyway, there's all kinds of shops selling phrase tees. There was one that just said, I am not gay. Okay. And it said, but it was spelled G-E-Y. Okay. And I was like, this is, I don't even know what the fuck this is. But then it had it. And like in Japanese though, too, like a translation.

It was a very odd t-shirt, but you know, people out here making money off those things. Oh, and there's also a spray on the website to get rid of psychic vampires. Oh, really? Oh, like energy vampires? Yeah. Yeah. So a spray to get rid of psychic vampires and a 500-pound dildo. Really?

Wait, you mean sterling pounds sterling? Sorry, $500. Okay. That's why I was like pounds sterling. Phew, phew, phew. I was like, what? What's that for? What kind of machinery are they?

It's for the CrossFit crowd. It's got a red light in it. The kettlebell dildo. Dead lifted dildo. A $500 dildo. Deadlifted dildo. A $500 dildo, which is basically a vibrator. With Bluetooth. With Bluetooth, yeah, so you can program it to say stuff to you. The oldies.

It has a red light in it. Oh. You know like red light therapy that Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That you can use after sports and stuff, but presumably you just fire it up there alongside your jade egg. Just fire it up there. Wow. It's going to be very busy up your vagina.

Well, you're going to want that. With all the steaming, the jade egg. Yeah, just a complicated machine going on up there. It's going to look like Kramer's apartment. The jade egg to block the- I was saying with the red light, it just reminds me of Kenny Rogers episode where the red light was coming through and he's like, I don't know what to do.

Huh. What does red light therapy do for you? It's, I think it's like healing after like... I've used it before on my face. You can use it for your... They sell all these. I mean, it could be hokum, but is hokum a word?

I don't know. Oh, yeah. So it's like to kind of like stimulate healing and um promote collagen and stuff and i think in the same way they use like ice baths some sports people afterwards will go in a red light room to promote like so it's part of that one is like obviously a heat therapy one of the it's funny funny you mention ice baths because that is one of the episodes of Goop, the Netflix TV show that we kind of talked about yesterday that they specifically, like, they did a medical analysis and they were like, the one about ice baths is nonsense. Ah. They were saying like, that doesn't exist.

Or no, that was the Reiki thing, I think. No, but they also said that. Came after the cryo stuff. Yeah, that doesn't exist. Or no, that was the Reiki thing, I think. No, but they also said that. It came after the cryo stuff. Yeah, the cryo stuff. The guy said a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away. Oh, yeah. Can't go that far. And he is not a doctor.

I mean, it's funny. When you go on WebMD and like, what is red light therapy? It's telling when they say RLT is a treatment that may help skin. Muscle tissue, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. So I guess it all, you know, it sounds like people know about it, but there's not enough studies. Oh, there's-

I'll try everything. FDA approved. And then there's FDA, there's two things, isn't there? There's one that's like approved. And then there's- Under review. Like not banned by? Recommended and like passed or approved.

Like the difference between saying something is fine to kind of going, we actively recommend it. Like not banned by? Recommended and like passed or approved. Like the difference between saying something is fine to kind of going, we actively recommend it. The FDA has determined this will not kill you. FDA cleared versus FDA approved. Right, that's it. Cleared is pretty funny. Low bar. Clearing, a low bar.

What is something you think is overrated? Oh, months. Months. Yeah, they've become very needy every month has a thing now right so you know dry january or stoptober you know which is basically stoptober well we have that in the uk so there's a few every so you do have dry january here a lot of people do dry january yeah yeah people do that here yeah yeah. Right, and then in the UK, a lot of people ask you to sponsor, and I don't want to do that for you. Sponsor. Giving up booze for a month. So you're paying them to

stop drinking? Yeah. I mean, ostensibly for a charity, but really it's about you. Oh, okay. So it's like running a marathon type thing when people ask you to sponsor their marathon. Yeah, like, hey, pay me to stop drinking, though. Right. Pay me to stop crystal meth so I can donate to some animal charity. I don't know.

Like, we have Movember. Do you have that here? Yeah, for the mustache November. That's like, yeah, months of men looking like Victorian sex pests. Or for me, looking just like an absolute pirate. Right. The one time I tried to grow a mustache, oh, boy. A pirate?

It looked like remember when like there were those pirates in southeast asia like thailand and shit oh photos because you know look looking black and japanese i could pass for a southeast asian dude uh i had like this my long hair looked like a guy who was out at sea like around there robbing ships and stuff like that it was so wispy it was tragic that people were like okay maybe this you don't have to do it isn't for you we appreciate you aligning with this movement right but you look like you have scurvy yeah well i remember at one point i when i was working at a like a more front-facing job they were like uh do you think you could shave and i

was like but it's november and they're like yeah but it just looks terrible on camera right okay I mean I think there's very few men that can really carry off a a mustache when they can it is magnificent sure yeah but too much it tips into creepy sex pest it's creepy sex pest or like racist biker or you know there's not there's a few like sort of snap judgments you can have based on seeing someone's mustache I think Nick Offerman is one of the people where it's like, wow, that in and of itself is an accessory. I gain 10 years when I grow a mustache. Well, don't you kind of grow like a handlebar? I have grown a handlebar.

Well, a handlebar is the one that goes up at the sides. I grew the one that's more Hulk Hogan, that goes down on the sides. I grew like the one that's like more Hulk Hogan. Oh boy. Like that goes down on the sides. I think that's a different name that is sometimes referred to as handlebar. I liked Eric Estrada's and also like Sam Elliott. Sam Elliott does good facial hair. Yeah, that's right.

You can rate his tashes properly. I had a Sam Elliott many years ago and it did not look good. It made me a very, very much sex pest. Or like Tom Selleck. I think it's one of those things though too. Elliot many years ago and it did not look good. Very, very much sex pest. Or like Tom Selleck. You know, I think it's one of those things though, to those mustaches,

those people without the mustaches, you're like, Oh, does he get the mustache back? Yeah. Especially if you have no upper lip, you know what I mean? Like I'm sure Kenneth Branagh would benefit from having a big mustache.

Yeah. But you never know. Yeah. Yeah. So that all the months, all the months basically. So just, but i think every month has something now it's interesting because i think the sober month in america is january isn't it yeah so January dry January or whatever right whatever people want to sober february and uh well it's dry we have dry january

but we also have stoptober but that's not that could be stop anything stop stop anything chocolate stop something that's bad for you ostensibly and then pay money um and what else do we have we have one that's like veganuary that happens as well so you can try the ganguary yeah so you can try going vegan for a month um and then god i think there's like yeah i mean then there's all the other stuff like that is like holidays, but it just feels like every, like almost every week or every month we're trying to get another thing going. Right. Yeah.

Enough months. Yeah. Chill. Chill. Well, just like how, well, I mean, every day is a day also, like, let's not forget. Right. There's every single day has some kind of perceived significance. Right.

For example, what is today? National Croissant Day. It's always a pastry of some sort, I feel like. National Donut Day, National Croissant. The 31st, jam-packed. National Big Wig Day, National Hot Chocolate Day, National Backward Day. Wait, is National Big Wig Day a day for people to wear big wigs? Or is it a day where we give the proper respect to the fat cats?

To the big wigs? To our corporate overlords? We're like, they need a day, man. No, I think it's what it is, is for people to put a wig on. Okay. Fundraising while bringing awareness to a cause. Yeah. I think wig day, that's a, that's a good one.

We should just do one time, an episode where we do an analysis of all these bullshit holidays and just like sort them into, okay, get rid of this. This is invalid versus like a day where everybody wears wigs and like gets to see what they would look like with different hairdos. Like that's fun.

That's quite fun. Well, I mean, this isn't exactly, but I like that as an idea of like, just check out, just try out some wigs day. But hold on. Think about isn't exactly, but I like that as an idea. Right. Just check out some wigs there. But hold on.

Think about how many people are going to get that so inappropriate. Yes. Oh, God. They're like, I don't know. It's a wig. It's an Afro wig. Right. I thought it would.

I don't know. So I thought I should. Now I'm canceled? Right. Okay. Actually, I think probably maybe people would be okay, but fashion houses, maybe not. Right. Yeah, Gucci would probably do something with that.

What is something you think is underrated? The people building Trump's wall, because I think they're purposefully making it shit. Oh, a little sabotage? Yeah. So at the end of last year, there was an article in Vice, it was, President Trump had been bragging about his border wall being virtually impenetrable, but it turns out all you need to get through is a cheap saw. Right, yes.

Smugglers are reportedly using $100 saws to cut through sections of the US-Mexico border wall. And then it said it was missing chunks. You know that famous technical term they use in famous uh technical term that architects are always using yeah we're gonna put a chunk in over there in that hole yep uh how many chunks we got left yeah i mean it's one of those things too i think it's half i i honestly think it's born out of like the money that's available because we're not the government's really not trying to actually fund this thing and then so you're left with some guy because it's like a bunch of private people bidding for it and they're like yeah man this is impenetrable trump i'm also the visibly most racist guy so pick me

right and then cut to someone being like yeah let me get a skill saw real quick right yeah yeah i wanted to say that trump should know that anything can be unconsensually penetrated let's see how he likes it. Of all people. Grab them by the railings, tell the wall it's not even that good looking, definitely not a 10, and it should consider itself lucky. Right. Yeah, so one of the reasons they did it the way they did it is apparently it's very easily fixable. Right.

You put the chunk back in. Right back in, because look, that's the thing about a wall. Step one, can it be broken through, but can you fix it after? Right. I mean, that's how I do all my projects. Extra shitty, so they're easily fixable. Right. Like I make the flaws in everything I do very evident.

Right. So then anybody can come in and just kind of put it together. It's just starting things out. Literal constructive criticism. Right. Exactly. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be falseal constructive criticism. Right, exactly. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa?

Oh, okay. Did I? I can't remember if I've done this here before, but there is a myth that Australia doesn't exist. Oh, word? Have I mentioned this on the show? No. I've heard this myth. This is a conspiracy theory that-

From flat earthers, right? Yes. Yeah, that Australia as a continent doesn't exist. What happens is people get on a plane and then they're flown in the sky for hours, taken to somewhere in South America, I think, and then actors are hired to speak Australian. And, I mean, I don't know how they get round, like,

kangaroos and stuff, roos and wallabiesies because that's the first thing when you're in australia like oh my god this is wild right right right um but yes that apparently australia is just all made up yeah i mean uh you know i talk about this a lot in some of the facebook groups i'm in just about how it's used to perpetuate this myth that there is such a thing as down under this great firmament that we live on, which is really more akin to a snow dome diorama, I would say, floating through the heavens. But yeah, I mean, I think it's a myth. Yeah, like if I dig far enough underneath my house, like in the UK, I'm probably going to hit Australia, right? So why haven't I hit Australia? No, actually, well, based on, I think if the Earth is flat, so you would just fall at the bottom

into the infinite space, I think. Where they've hired actors. Where they've hired actors. The thing I love about that is that the idea that there is this amount of effort going into being like, yep, and then these people will talk a made-up

language. We've created an entire history about it being a penal colony. And then, you know, check out The Roos. Right. It also suggests a really, like, vast reservoir of actors who are imaginative enough to have made up that accent. Yeah. And, like, perfected it.

Maybe it was an American actor trying to do a British accent. Hold on, hold on. What's that? What do you call that? What do you call that? I don't know, am I? Exactly, yes. I think you've got it.

Yeah, explain Chris Hemsworth. Right, yeah. See, that's what we should do. Get him in a box, see what happens. He'll spill the beans on what's really going on. I just Googled Australia doesn't exist and there's quite a bit, see what happens. If he'll spill the beans on what's really going on. I just Googled Australia doesn't exist.

And there's quite a bit of literature out there. I'm not saying it's accurate. I'm just saying that there's some interesting things to read. I'm going to do some independent research and then I'll determine for myself. What's the over under on all of those articles somehow out of nowhere diverging into anti-Semitism or homophobia? Oh, because that's all of these books are like,

yeah. Yeah. This one says the basic theory is that Britain invented the convict colony of Australia as an excuse to execute tens of thousands of prisoners under the guise of transporting them. Today, everyone is in on the prank right down to the airline pilots, ferrying tourists to decoy islands and actors playing the part like some real-life version of The Truman Show. All the things you can call proof are actually well-fabricated lies

and documents made by the leading governments of the world. Your Australian friends, they're all actors and computer-generated personas. I mean, here's an idea. Go to quote-unquote Australia, get on a boat, and then just see if you can circumnavigate it. Right. That would probably, that would put it to rest if it's a secret Island or where you are.

I mean, I think just that I don't know what to say. I mean, I guess if it's a secret Island, then you could say, if you are a flat earther though, that would be by far the best use of your money would be to go to Australia and live in the truman show for

like a couple weeks like that would be and just like try and be like aha yeah or commit a crime there and be like okay yeah we're going to court right oh very funny wig sir yeah do the barristers wear wigs there i don't know yes they do oh fantastic uh good all right we're gonna a real court today on weekday on big weekday wig day. On big wig day, yeah. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this.

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And we're back. And it was a real rollercoaster ride following the impeachment. Girl, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. Into Wednesday. rollercoaster ride following the impeachment on Tuesday evening. Into Wednesday. Mitch McConnell said he didn't have the votes to stop witnesses on Tuesday night. I forwarded that headline to you guys, hopefully.

It was like bombshell. And no one responded. Yeah, nobody responded. Nobody even gave it a thumbs up. No one even did a tap back. Whatever, man. I'm going to go ahead and say you guys are all part of the problem. But then by Wednesday morning, the GOP was gaining confidence that they did have the votes to stop witnesses and move to acquitting the president by, I think, Friday, they're're saying by tomorrow uh so i don't know like the the whole we don't have the votes might just be an attempt by mcconnell to that was a

fucking distress flare right is what that was right at the time he probably did not have the votes the reason he said that is to signal to everybody outside of those rooms yo we need to start putting pressure on everybody right right because we don't have the meats right as i keep saying shout out to arby's yeah um yeah that's why my first instinct was like he doesn't like this isn't like mcconnell because he doesn't like to ever admit that like he doesn't have his shit his side of the chamber in order right and i think that's why a lot of people were a little bit cynical because, you know, like in a way,

you know, the people you would have to start getting in their ear would be Lisa Murkowski would be Susan Collins would be Mitt Romney, maybe Lankford from Oklahoma, who knows who these other people are. But now it seems like they have just enough to block witnesses. And then maybe those vulnerable senators like Collins or Murkowski can have their vote for witnesses and then use that as their cowardly cover to be like, well, see, I did the right thing. Yeah, they submitted their questions yesterday. Romney did, and I don't know necessarily what those questions were just yet, it seems like that's their you know they

have their cover to be like we asked questions they just didn't answer it i don't see how witnesses are gonna yeah and it was such i mean yes we can be cynical about all of this but i will urge people please call your senators too like it's a very easy thing to do there's things like resist bot you can use that will help fill shit out for you to be able to submit uh letters whatever you need to do to put some form of pressure i mean a lot of the times you call a senator's uh phone line the voice the voicemail is full which is a good sign but at the same time i mean this really is such an absolute fucking joke. And they really, in their mind, they're set up to completely overlook why impeachment is even defined in the Constitution, all in the name of partisanship,

and because they are afraid of what it means for Donald Trump to start talking bad about them. This is all just fear-based, really, especially why they're not voting because they really think that he's innocent. They're voting because the calculus they're using says, well, I go against the president, he's going to put me in a tweet, say something about me at a rally, and everybody's going to not like me, and I'm going to have to deal with angry Trump supporters, and I want to have an easy election.

Are they in the back of their minds thinking, what if he gets a second term? Oh, yeah. I mean, absolutely. Because if he is, then they've they've made their cards, their teacher's pet. And they'll be like, see, I was there. And we talked about this yesterday or last night when we were talking or two nights ago about the sort of dynamic between Mitt Romney and Senator Loeffler of Georgia where they were friends but suddenly she was tweeting like very publicly adding him adding the president like I don't know what this guy's thinking right precisely because someone's gonna someone's gonna challenge her from the right who's more of a Trump you know more of a Trumper than she is and I think that's when you're starting to see like no one is doing

everyone is now just fully in like who's the most popular kid in school oh it's like when the bully yeah standing next to the bully yeah right exactly so they don't bully you over 70 percent of americans have said they want to hear from witnesses yeah uh you know there are definitely people in that 70 percent that are republicans who are like i want to hear from hunter biden who are like, I want to hear from Hunter Biden. Even 49% of Republicans want to hear evidence. Yeah. I didn't think there would even be that many. Right.

I also am noticing sort of a flagging of the energy from the mainstream media of just that it seems like they're the Republicans are winning the framing battle because like the New York Times is now framing the questioning of impeachment managers and defense attorneys as like basically as witnesses and Bolton and the only actual witnesses is questioning additional witnesses they're like will they get to question additional witnesses as if there have been witnesses that's an interesting yeah i mean i guess because in the house inquiry there were witnesses right so there i guess maybe they're using that evidence that was submitted as part of this thing of saying the additional witnesses because i mean i guess that must be why they're using that i was watching uh anderson cooper last night, and there seemed to be sort of a

palpable exhaustion bordering on, I don't know, nihilism about impeachment. It seemed like the consensus was that people, people, like the people out there were tired of impeachment, and it was time to wrap the whole thing up because witnesses are just going to drag the whole thing out longer. It seemed like they were basically saying- Wait, Anderson Cooper said those words? Like, yeah. That's an actual GOP talking point. Right, exactly. It just seemed like everybody had accepted that. And they were like, this is counterproductive for the Democrats because nobody really cares about this.

It was essentially... I mean, Jesus Christ. Yeah, it was unbelievable. It's a disappointing impeachment season. Like you said earlier, it's treated like entertainment or sport. It's been spoiled. Therefore, oh, this is boring now.

I know the outcome of Real Madrid playing a third-tier team from France or something. You're just like, whatever, I don't even see that. They were going to the, it's stealing focus from the issues that people care about, which is something I've heard from the left. Like, Chapo says that. They're like, this is all bullshit and a distraction. But it's the way that, if you frame it that way,

then you are overlooking the fact that he's trying to cheat at the election that you're saying we should all be moving on. Or absolutely destroy the institutions that are necessary to keep this thing in balance. Right. At all. If we like this is the thing, you know, the erosion of the institutions is like precisely what the threat of this presidency is. Right. And then when we have no way to say like oh this is how we need to do things this is how we address these problems and we have no roadmap for that now then it's just utter chaos right so it's you know i get on one hand yes this does not affect people directly right now but depending on what direction we're going in we

need these things to hold or we're gonna or we're gonna end up really in the true hellscape right where they're like the courts right okay bye but it feels like that is already happening yeah i mean yeah sure i there is that sense of nihilism but at the same time i'm like i i feel personally hopeless that i don't believe in the republicans to do the right thing. But I still feel that they still need to be aware that there is a large segment of the country. You still have to do the thing. Yeah.

Yeah. There's an article on the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Have you seen this? With new analysis saying every impeachment trial has had new witnesses. Right. No, absolutely. It's a total departure. Impeachment trial completed in the Senate's 231-year history

has featured witnesses who had not testified in the House, according to an analysis published by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Each of the 15 impeachment cases completed by the Senate, witnesses who were not heard during House of Representatives impeachment, investigations testified in front of the Senate. Yeah. There's nothing, every argument that has been offered up against witnesses or why this trial is a sham has no legal precedent. Yeah.

And there's not a single legal scholar, except for the hacks that are defending the president, that are bringing up these arguments and trying to pass them off as legitimate. Right. And so part of the reason I was kind of looking at the, you know, cable news shit sphere on Tuesday night, partially because we got the kids to bed early, but partially because this dude, Perry Bacon Jr. from FiveThirtyEight was talking about how like that's where to look, because like if you look at the Senate floor, we know what their arguments are going to be. But if you look at, you know, what Republican spokespeople and senators are saying on cable news on Tuesday night,

that was where you were going to see like how things were trending. and it really seemed pretty stark that like on cnn and msnbc they were just like basically giving up and then on fox it was all about trump's rally in new jersey and how like fox is already like doing spiking the football like they're bold yeah fox not not just on acquittal unlike him winning the election, because he had that big rally in New Jersey, and they were talking about how they put out stats after every rally, and they were like, 10% of the people who came to this rally didn't vote in 2016, and 25% were Democrats. So if that's true, that's fucking terrifying. But I don't know. I mean, there may be a group of people who have a morbid fascination,

and there are also probably a group of people who have the dormant racist being awoken in them. And they're like, wait a second, I couldn't do it last time, and maybe everybody around me is doing this, and maybe it's okay. But it's traditionally blue, right? there does seem to be a blue right as traditionally a blue state new jersey yeah but i do think i mean this is scary to me because

that was the thing that we people who thought trump was going to lose in 2016 were having to overlook was the rallies and like fact that he was filling these giant airport hangars and analysts were like, yeah, but that doesn't matter. And it ended up being a pretty good indicator of the amount of support that was out there that wasn't being reflected in the polls. And it's worrying that that seems to still be a thing that is happening. Have you seen some of the stuff that he said at the rally?

He warned the Dem, that the Democrats want to close your factories and get rid of your cows. You know, all those cows on the Jersey. Right. Well, there's a cow. There's a lot of Jersey cows.

There's some good dairy out there. Oh, is there? There are quite a lot. Not on the Jersey shore. Not on the Jersey shore, but is that where he did the rally? Uh, he did do. Not on the Jersey Shore. Not on the Jersey Shore, but is that where he did the rally? He did do the rally

on the Jersey Shore. Near Wildwood. Right. Wildwood. I stand corrected. No, even the connections, just sort of, I was just thinking

a little bit back about this impeachment thing too. There are people from his legal team who have given thousands of dollars to the senators who are currently the jurors there too. Right.

You know what I mean? Like Robert Ray, Ken Starr, they have donated plenty of money to the senators who are currently the jurors there too right i mean like robert ray ken star they have donated plenty of money to mitch mcconnell and the like and i guess it's all i mean yes on one hand sort of getting back to the rally thing i yes it's frightening when you see that many people energized uh but i i think yeah i i also hope my hope though too is that this really needs to underline to people that it's the exact, the stakes are higher this time. And no one can at ever any point, even when you look at, well, every Democratic candidate beats Trump. Yeah. You're still up against this.

Yeah. And that's really why it needs to still be the focus of figuring out how we are going to actually effectively vote this person out. Right. I feel like those two stories taken together just made me like really worried about any future where it's like a Biden or, you know, somebody who doesn't have any sort of populist energy behind them. any sort of populist energy behind them. They just have sort of the, and that's not necessarily fair to Biden, but it's, it does seem like he's sort of the consensus mainstream media pick in the same way that Hillary Clinton was.

And, you know, the, the mainstream media just is not it. Like they're not going to succeed on their own terms. There was another headline that was like Biden and Sanders surge again. And the only motherfucker who actually was had any significant increase was Bernie. Right.

I mean, imagine what happens if these primaries start going to the left. What starts happening with the media then? Because every time there's something where the man proclaimed himself to be the living nightmare of billionaires starts surging, there's a response from that class. Yeah. I mean, even before Trump showed up on the scene, Bannon and Mercer, the architects of his 2016 run to the White House, had polling data from Facebook that they had stolen, essentially, that said that a populist candidate, an outsider candidate, was what America was waiting for. And that's what Trump became. I just don't know that if you put him against somebody who is the establishment candidate who is,

you know, centrist, which just means like right leaning with the modern democratic party, like that, that's going to succeed. So, I don't know. Yeah.

I mean, it's the energy. If you're going to capture some of that energy who people are saying, you know, clearly now a lot of the voting public is at that phase they go who the fuck are these people that like run the because i think this presidency has awoken some people to sort of looking at how power is moving around in dc and who represents who so yeah it would be a mistake to then have someone who's like yeah i'm kind of

the guy you're kind of realizing you probably didn't like as a politician versus someone who's like talking about things that actually benefit the working person rather than being like the stock market's fucking lit right now, baby. Right. A real radical. Right. Yeah. I'm a radical populist Wall Street guy. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, another way to motivate the people is just give out cash, man. Hold hard cash, homie. So this has to be illegal, I would think. But Politico had a story a couple days ago about how Trump supporters are giving out cash to people in the black community to try and, you know, they have rallies where they're giving out cash and they're also, you know, saying Trump is the answer, essentially. They were. So it's the Urban Revitalization Coalition.

OK. And there's a lot of all these Trump allies. They are basically doing like a lottery right so like one of the first giveaways was in cleveland and people if you had a like a winning ticket you got to get a ticket they draw your name you get a little they'll give you hundreds of dollars and they put in envelopes there was another one that's supposed to have literal envelopes of cash cash Cash giveaways. Buying votes. Whatever.

Or I mean, if I was a smart black person, I would be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Trump. Give me the fucking 300 bucks. Yeah, take the money. Do you think I'm going to fucking vote for him? Idiot. Shame on you. And this whole fucking farce.

This whole, the, yes, it does bring up another question about they are a 501c3. They're a fucking nonprofit organization, meaning their money has to go to benefit the community or do something like that. But apparently, the CEO of the Urban Revitalization Coalition is saying that most of the gifts are between $300 and $500. And the group, I guess their mandate is that anyone who receives anything over $600 has to fill out a W-9 for tax purposes. So they're doing it like being like, yeah, so we're compliant with the law. But I think many people about saying how that actually meets the legal standard for a charitable act,

that's a big question mark. And most people are like, absolutely not. I mean, in the early days of politics in America, they used to have voting parties where they would just have giant, enormous parties where you would get people drunk and they would all vote the way you wanted them to. And like, you would only have ballots. You're talking like Tammany Hall type shit? Well, no, it was even like Washington used to do that, like George Washington.

It was like very early days, like there are you know we've adopted these norms i'm sure there are certain laws but all these like really technical laws can be like you can get around them or you can at least get them tied up in the court so that like what what's going to happen if he continues doing this and it's somehow effective like you know doing shit like just paying people to vote for him like what we're going to take them to court and get them censured like three years

into his second term or like Don Jr.'s first term well yeah I just don't know how many right so if you think about how a bribe like this would work right you go to these people you say okay you're probably you would benefit from this cash being given to you. Right.

And if they're conditioning that on a vote, how many of those people are going to say, I actually thank you for this $300. And also I believe that Donald Trump is not racist. Right. Right. Like, that's what I don't get.

And I get, I understand that they are. How do they ensure they get the vote? Cause you can't force someone. Cynically, cynically you're like, okay, well it's other people of color entering the community so there's there's going to be a level of trust there right but at a certain point you're going to look at somebody supporting trump that's black and you're going to be like hold on explain to me all this other shit right but i don't know i mean i'm sure there are people who unless it's like a thing where it's like i feel like it would have to be closer to the election

for that to be effective in saying, yo, come back. I need to know you. I don't know. I don't know how that actually translates to actual votes aside from being some weird PR campaign that I'm not sure is actually going to change anyone's mind. Because if anyone needs money like that, I don't know if you're going to suddenly be like, oh, thank God, Donald Trump. You're going to be like, this person was giving away cash. Yeah, it's not a small amount of money, right? No, $300.

$300 to $500. That's a lot of money. Yeah. But I just don't know. I'm not sure sort of psychologically how that's going to actually sway somebody. Considering what I think only Trump got only maybe 8%, 7% of the black vote in 2016, what that's going to do to improve those numbers. And you can list off the famous people or celebrities that are black and Trump supporters.

I think it's three of us. Candace Owens, Diamond and Silk. Candace Owens. Yeah, yeah. Diamond and Silk. Boom. Yeah. I think they're probably just looking to shave a couple of percentage points off.

And it's just so cynical. Just please, I mean, like, come on. Like, this is the point where really the courts need to intervene and be like, this is an absolute joke. But again, we're talking about the erosion of our institutions. We're talking about making the law irrelevant. Yeah. And if that's the case, then yeah, shit like this is going to keep going.

Yes. All right, we're going to take one more quick break. We'll be right back. Like this is going to keep going. Yes. All right. We're going to take one more quick break. We'll be right back.

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and get very interested in it uh and just looking at some of the search terms some of the search traffic i don't know if we are this fucking dumb or we're just doing it for the lulz but google trends calculated there was a surge uh along with coronavirus that there was corona beer virus and beer virus okay so i'm what are they not related yeah no, no, I knew that. Well, what did you think it is? No, go ahead. No, no, no. No, say it right now.

What is it? I just didn't know if it was cured by it or somehow they just like, somebody made up the name while they were drinking Corona. All right, that's how you looked. Or it was caused by it. But I just Googled Corona beer virus. Yeah, it's not true. It's from drinking old coronas right i don't know that yeah uh yeah they said there were the search terms 57 of people were

searching for beer virus the remaining 43 corona beer virus uh-huh uh and in hawaii new mexico and kansas they're searching beer virus more than anybody nice i don't know i mean it makes sense if you just heard it conversationally like corona what yeah what what does that mean the beer yeah but you know i guess this is where we're at these days hey look and you know if people try to educate themselves fantastic right but all the symptoms are are they similar to a cold though so i wonder if there's going to be a rush of people maybe thinking that they have the virus yeah the search for symptoms actually has been even more significantly searched because

people are truly i think once they realize okay it's not from drinking corona right what is this oh it's a terrible illness okay now what is going on yeah it's also a situation where, you know, it says it's surging on Google Trends, but like that was not a search that existed at all probably before. Oh, yeah. So it's not like they're saying it's 30% of coronavirus searches are about the beer. It's just saying that there's a surge in that specific search term. And how many confirmed cases have they got now in in the u.s yeah over 110 i think yeah last time i looked um and yeah i think it says in china it's i think 131 people have already passed away from it right uh let's talk about popeyes so popeyes is saying that is saying that Beyonce's Ivy Park was possibly inspired by their colors.

I mean, who knows? You know, we'll just put some two images together. Right. Can people own colors? Oh, the colorways? Yeah, I don't know. T-Mobile tried to... Oh, yeah, brand magenta or something?

Yeah, magenta they trademarked, I think. A specific, very specific shade, right? Right. Yeah. But still, you can't own a color. Well, they're not trying to say that they merely have all kinds of creative ownership over it. There is just a lot of people on Instagram was sort of, they were holding up juxtaposing the new Ivy Park line with, as most people know from the Popeye's chicken sandwich craze, many people are also familiar with that foil bag the sandwich comes in.

And we see just an interesting parallel here. Maroon with orange. Right. Popeye's been doing that too. And they're not- Collective consciousness. It's not even like a thing where Popeye's like, how dare they? It's just like, it's one of those things that started off on Twitter.

A few people go like, jokingly, they're like how is beyonce gonna not credit popeyes this is the exact same as their uniforms this is hilarious and it's amazing uh but then the fast food restaurant is now like hold on a second how can we make money off of this right and they have a website called www that look from popeyes.com where they have their own sort of like maroon and orange inspired clothing. It's pretty simple. But the thing that I think is nice that 100% of the proceeds go to their charitable foundation. So it's not just being like, hey, buy this or whatever. It's a bit of a foundation.

So it's a bit of fun. Yeah, absolutely. As opposed to a serious. Is the charity involved with them having all the chicken sandwiches in stock that we need, that we require as a culture? I don't know. Oh, if that's like a mandate, like that's part of their mission statement? Yeah.

I don't know. We should dig deeper. I've always been put off of Popeyes because the first time I arrived in LA, one of the first things I saw was someone taking a dump in the parking lot. Oh yeah. Of a Popeye's. Yeah. And it was,

it's a shame it had to happen there. Could it, you know, coming to LA could have happened in any number of businesses. Could have happened in, yeah. And maybe it was a protest. Right.

I don't know. Yeah. Just kind of. Look, a lot of us were not happy with the fact that they were out of the sandwiches. Yeah. When did you arrive the first time? I just want to check some dates. When was that? Cause Jack, look a lot of us were not happy with uh the fact that they were out of the sandwich yeah when did you arrive the first time i just want to check some dates when was that because jack you no it

was not me probably oh because you took a dump in a church's chicken parking right yeah yeah yeah it wasn't it was in the middle of the day it was like you know yeah yeah could have been post-lunch. Let's talk about Hunger Games. There is a new Hunger Games book coming from author Suzanne Collins. And it seems, I don't know, it's interesting. It's a prequel novel. It's a prequel. So first of all, great idea. Love prequels.

Really well. And early announcements detailed that the story would be set 64 years before the first Hunger Games book, so that's a long time. And it sounded fine. Yeah, like, okay, what's the lead up to this

societal ending troubled era? Right, because there's a lot of mythology in the book about the first rebellion and the civil war that was fought between the districts and the capital 75 years ago. So it sounded promising and both the name and the artwork

hinted at a connection with Katniss, who's the protagonist of the original series, obviously it would be before she was born, but maybe it's about her ancestor or something. And then also there's a movie already in the works, which makes sense. But last week we learned that the book is actually about

Donald Sutherland's character, the president. President Snow? President Snow as a young man. Young Snow. As a young, like, hot dude. Who then becomes a fascist. Yeah, who then becomes a fascist. And it's like, hey, but he's the protagonist.

They're basically trying to, you know, Anakin Skywalker this shit. But it just seems, I don't know. Doesn't Armie Hammer have that role nailed down? He always plays that sort of character, doesn't he? Who? Like the complicated, hot, young... Armie Hammer, yeah.

Was he the Winklevoss twins? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He would probably be a good choice for this role. But do we need to see that narrative of someone who... A fascist who... Who just murders poor people. The synopsis, literally, this is the synopsis.

How did he get so angry? What if there was more to him than we knew? What if he could be, crazy as it may sound, a hero? What the fuck? That's a quote. A hero? Young President Snow is a, quote, teenager born to privilege, but searching for something more. He's also friendly and charming.

So I. OK, what the who who wants that book? Yeah. Oh, but hold on. Isn't this what the Star Wars prequels did? Right. It is what the Star Wars prequels did. But that wasn't at a time when we were living through actual fascist uprising.

Creeping fascism. Yeah, right. And also a lot of young people are struggling with being converted to fascism by like YouTube videos and algorithms that, you know, just pull people in that direction. And this was used as a touchstone as like, but you know, fascism is not great.

And now they're like, yeah, but what if it is understandable and kind of chill? Hey, look on the road to fascism, you could be a pretty chill guy. Right. And that's cool

what the responsibility of art is in that right i mean to me i'm curious what comes first the book or the movie deal right was this book being written to be able to give a platform for the movie because from what i understand lionsgate is also working with her on this book so it's not like she's just out here writing a book. And the production companies, the distributors, have nothing to do with that creative process. It seems like they're also developing this story with her. So is that... I'm like, at this point, do you need a book?

Do you have the book for the cover to say it's based on the books rather than saying, like, you know, Be Great is a prequel. Can you write a prequel? Because I think we'd make a lot of money. Here, here's an advance. Yeah, I mean, it's based on the books rather than saying like you know be great as a prequel can you write a prequel because i think we make a lot of money here here's an advance yeah i mean it's so the the series has always been about an impoverished young woman fighting against the evils of an authoritarian government uh that literally murders poor people for entertainment and now they're pivoting to a story about how the leader of that fascist regime was once a pretty cool dude, and that's where we're at. Hey, you know, we've got to see. We've got to read it with our own eyes.

Yeah. I know. He may be a loser. Right. You know, and then it's more like a Joker-type story where they're like, see, man, see what happened to this dude. Right. You know, and then it's more like a Joker type story where they're like, see, man, see what happened to this dude. Right. Yeah. Yeah, so it's coming out in 2020.

Awesome. Who's going to play young Donald Sutherland? I think Armie Hammer's actually a perfect choice. Yeah. These are very interesting. Like this rendering. Keetha Sutherland? No.

That one, maybe? Maybe. Has he got kids? Has Ke kids is keith forgot you know maybe they'll literally get his grandson yeah to play him in it i think he's a daughter i've met his daughter i think i don't know i wonder if it's the kind of almost the reverse of because i remember about a year ago sort of a pining is that the word i'm looking for like how many war films we have and more ones were coming because dunkirk was coming out and i've just watched the 90 i keep saying the 1917 like it's a band 1917 which is phenomenal but i was like i feel like we've seen this now haven't we seen enough war films and they're always just you know like we've made them but we need to keep making more have we

seen them where the authoritarians are the good guys yeah yeah yeah that is new i mean just think about a change of perspective paradigm shift um but but just within that then the argument against that from some of my friends was um no we need to see this because we're in a dangerous place now and people need to know what the result it can't be abstract yeah yeah yeah so you need to see this because we're in a dangerous place now and people need to know what the result can be abstract. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you need to see,

I think it's in, I don't want to say a spoiler in Dunkirk, but doesn't like Harry Styles die or something early door. So like young people kind of seeing like an iconic, I think he, he lives, he lives. Who dies early doors?

Touch and go there when they're hiding out in that boat. Right. Okay. Touching. Right. I haven't seen Dunkirk I have seen 1917 but it's kind of showing Zayn dies early Louis yeah Louis really fights it but how devastating

war actually is and how we don't want history to be repeated in this way so actually you know I sort of came round on that and went, okay, maybe it's a good thing. That's why Private Ryan was sort of one of those films where it's like, just look at how brutal this is. There's no hero.

There's nothing. There are heroic moments, but war does not discriminate. No one wins. Yeah. Right. Well, Tiff, it's been a pleasure having you. Thank you. Where can people find you. Thank you.

Where can people find you, follow you? People can come follow me on Twitter, at Tiff Stevenson, on Instagram. Still working it out, still working it out. But I'm Tiff Stevenson Comic on there. And I'm doing some performances of my show Mother in L.A. and then hopefully again in New York and trying to get out to Philly and places like that. So find me on those and you'll find out where I'm doing shows. Nice. Where's it?

When's your LA show? Well, it's just been putting in at the moment. I'm hoping third week in February. Okay. All right. So can I, can I keep it vague?

Yeah. Yes, please. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I enjoyed Virginia Jones, who I do enjoy, comic, who a few days ago tweeted, I don't know who needs to hear this, but nobody gives a shit if you have bangs or not.

Which I spend so much of my time like, should I? Do you think? And I like that you call it bangs here as well, because it makes it sexual. It's called a fringe. Fringe. Yeah, it's called a fringe. Oh, is it called called fringe fringe it's called yeah it's called a fringe yeah yeah i have a fringe but if bangs is cute it just sounds cute you know what that shit bangs yeah uh miles yeah is there a tweet you've been enjoying and where can people find you yeah find me on twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Also on my other show, 420 Day Fiance, talking about the reality show hit, 90 Day Fiance.

Some tweets I like. One is from Dana Donnelly, at Dana Donnelly. I'm just a hot girl standing in front of a poorly dressed, objectively unattractive guy telling him it's fine if he doesn't want a relationship. But could he maybe text me more consistently? He says no. Also from Jamie Loftus. Consider that Midsommar and Cats are both about a group of obnoxious friends that are begging to die. Jack Allison tweeted,

Allison tweeted the SNL after party sounds cool a required work party every week with all your bosses and co-workers and it's not an open bar what a dream you can find me on Twitter Jack underscore O'Brien you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram

we have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what's that gonna be today track we're gonna ride out on from little dragon in my house um just you know just thinking about our house and keeping our house in order in this country because again it only takes you know very, very little time. Shit can change drastically

within one generation. And I was just thinking that title got me thinking. You know, we can't take anything for granted right now. We're always one generation away from...

What's the saying? Total annihilation? No, total annihilation. Probably. One generation away. Takes one generation for total annihilation. Pretty cool. Fascism. Turn total annihilation. Pretty cool.

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