The Daily Zeitgeist - Infinity War Is About The Election, Danger: Poor People Organizing 5.15.18

Episode Date: May 15, 2018

In episode 148, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Edgar Momplaisir of Culture Kings to discuss Trump bringing more jobs to China and a possible pay to play situation going on, more info on the Isr...ael / Palestine protests at the Gaza Strip, the blocking of the Poor People's Campaign, movies that are capturing the zeitgeist like The Quiet Place, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 Daily Zeitgeist! For May 15, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I thought by now you'd realize there ain't no way to hide O'Brien eyes Wow. Eagles. That is courtesy of there ain't no Lobos, aka
Starting point is 00:02:33 at no Lobos. That guy does not want there to be Lobos. It was pretty, man. I don't understand why anyone's laughing That was beautiful Been practicing that for weeks And we are thrilled to be joined
Starting point is 00:02:53 As always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Honestly, I don't know how to follow up With that AKA, so I'm gonna just say Hi, it's me, Miles AKA the man in awe Of Jack's rendition of that a.k.a. Wow. Eagles, man.
Starting point is 00:03:10 What a band. Am I right? Yeah. You know, honestly, I feel like Big Lebowski gave me the anti-Eagles. I feel like it hurt the Eagles with a generation, but he's absolutely right that the Eagles fucking suck. Also, when the Hellfreezers Overture happened, I was like a kid, or I was like a teenager, and I remember all these adults
Starting point is 00:03:30 were like, oh, the Hellfreezers, I was like, fuck that. I always grew up with this weird anti-Eagles shit. They're the apotheosis of toxic masculinity as it expressed itself in that hippie fucking free love culture. Free love to a point. If it's free for itself in that like hippie fucking you know yeah like free love culture right yeah those free love
Starting point is 00:03:46 to a point right if it's free for whatever the dude wants right shout out to dj khaled trading trading women in card games wait what that that was supposedly based on them the thing from uh almost famous where they traded like a groupie and uh oh yeah lost a groupie in a poker game that was supposedly based on that. I believe it. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, one of the very culture kings himself. He is Mr. Edgar Montplaisir. Oingo boingo.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah. Where's Jamie Loftus at? I got some words for her. A lot of people, let me tell you, a lot of people are coming for that throne. Nobody is close. You're close. Edgar is the closest. Edgar is in second when it comes to appearances on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But I mean, nobody can compete with the Loftus. Although he hasn't been in for a minute. The gatekeepers are trying to keep me out. There's a Jamie Loftus bias in this industry. I have to fight it every day. Every day I go to a job and they're just like, I'm sorry, but you're not Jamie Loftus. You can't have this job.
Starting point is 00:04:56 This role was for a Haitian-American man in his 20s. We're Jamie Loftus washing this role. Right. We're Jamie Loftus washing this room. Right. We're Loftus washing. Edgar, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Man, I always know that this one, this is one I miss every time because I don't know, like, I forget that that's what we do.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Uh-huh. And then I never. And this is why we love to have you back because you seamlessly fit in the show. You already know the structure. You're always prepared. Yeah. Always well prepared. Oh, I've been trying to find out this 14-year-old trap rapper that I saw one time, and I can't find him anywhere.
Starting point is 00:05:35 It's this little black kid. He has dreads. This nigga can't be more than 5'1", but he's like one of the hardest trap rappers I've ever seen. And someone showed me a video, and I've been trying to find him again and i can't find him oh but the video is like him driving a car and he's like definitely not tall enough to drive a car and he's drinking scissor and he's talking about skipping school and shit like he's sipping lean driving the car correct talking about skipping school and he has like the short round blocks on his feet from indiana jones yeah yeah and he's shirtless.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Oh, I love that shit. But I can't find him. So stupid. I don't know if he's good. I was just so blown away by it. This is a child. Right. Who is behind this?
Starting point is 00:06:14 The aesthetic choices. Yeah, because I wanted to find him. I forgot. Well, I'll tell somebody about him. I was like, have you heard of this nigga? But I can't find him. Well, you know what? That's a Zyde Gang challenge. I'm sure somebody has seen it.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yes. Hit us with that reference. Because I feel like there's this whole wave of young trappers who I'm not sure have ever trapped a day in their life. No, this nigga's real. So you can tell he's 14. He bangs. Does he have tattoos already? Yeah, he bangs.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Face? You know he's 14? Listen, you remember how you could look at Lil Wayne and you could be like, this nigga's been through some shit? That's how I look at this. No, Lil Wayne, come on, bro. Yeah, yeah. He was, I mean. But he got famous relatively young, though, too.
Starting point is 00:06:46 He got technically raped when he was 13 years old. Okay. And what I mean by technically is that he was a kid, and then Birdman was just like, hey, you ever had your dick sucked before and had a prostitute suck his dick in front of everybody? Is that a, what's that? I learned about that from The Carter. Have you guys ever seen that documentary?
Starting point is 00:07:03 No, I didn't. Not The Carter, the one that MTV did, which is whack. Yeah. This is one, T-H-E-C-A-R-T-E. Oh. C-A-R-T-E-R. Here's how you know it's good. Lil Wayne tried to sue them to make sure it didn't come out.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Oh, right. No, I knew about that. Oh, I heard about that. For some reason, I didn't watch it. It's pure cinema verite. Yeah. What these guys did is they just put the cameras on him, and the way they got their interviews were, anytime he was being interviewed by a news reporter or something like that, they would record those, and that's how they got their interviews were anytime he was being interviewed by like
Starting point is 00:07:25 a news reporter or something like that they would record those and that's how they got their talking heads but it's pure cinema verite like oh man
Starting point is 00:07:31 it's it makes you hate Lil Wayne really? cause you just see that like he's just crazy and he's an asshole and like
Starting point is 00:07:39 yeah it's wild is he just constantly fucked up? yeah always on the scene that's why he's always he's having exhaustion a lot. I mean, those aren't lean-induced seizures.
Starting point is 00:07:49 No. That's just a dude who's in the throes of a terrible addiction, and nobody can get to him and get him help because he's just that famous or something? Yeah, and he's locked into a contract he doesn't want to be in. That sucks. What is something that's overrated? Man, I know some people are going to be upset at me for this, but man, reality competition shows, bruh.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Reality competition shows are whack. Listen, I'm tired of seeing your Instagram stories of you and your friends watching Dancing with the Stars or American Idol or The Bachelor. I hate all of it. It's all stupid. It's all terrible. Some fight words right it. It's all stupid. It's all terrible. Some fight words around here. Let's bring substance back to television. So what do you propose?
Starting point is 00:08:31 I want to say... So what's the air that's breathing up all these reality competition shows? What's the air? They're cheap. No, but I'm saying that's taking the space of something that you think is more worthy of our attention. I think for every one reality competition show,
Starting point is 00:08:43 we should have two Atlantis. Damn. Okay. If we can have that, but show, we should have two Atlantas. Damn. Okay. Like, we can have that, but let's bring some substance out, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that they're winning. I think these reality competition shows are getting us so close to, like, some Hunger Games type shit that we don't even realize it. Oh, eventually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I mean, we're— They're dumbing us down. Nearly doing the Running Man. The Running Man film will be a real-life thing. That's how we're going to pick the next president in 2020 it's just like yeah just running man god i mean yeah i don't know if the president could even run but that would be interesting i mean somebody needs to test that theory that we've been talking about that like he believes that he's that he believes he's good at sports and that he could make a Major League Baseball team if he just tried out.
Starting point is 00:09:27 He's not saying that now. You should make the next election a physical competition. Like some American Gladiators type shit. Yeah. Remember that show? Oh, I love it. Gladiators ready. I'm all about American Gladiators.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I like that Gatling gun that they would have with the Nerf balls in it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a matter of time, you're saying, before that becomes... An actual gun. An actual gun. Yeah, because like... We're just trying to get, like, healthcare. I was watching Dancing with the Stars, and I was...
Starting point is 00:09:53 Or not watching. I was watching... I watch people's Instagram stories every morning. I take a poop, and I watch all of you guys' Instagram stories. Thank you. Good to know. And I was watching somebody cheer the fuck on for Tonya Harding, and I was like, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Right. This is Tonya Harding, and you guysing. And I was like, what is happening? Right. This is Tanya Harding. And you guys are going wild, being like, oh, look at her do this step. And I'm like, yo, okay. Is there a reality show that you like, though? Like a reality competition show that you would? There's one that I like. And it's so trash.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Exactly. So this is my favorite thing about these kinds of sentiments, right? It's like there's ones you don't like, but then there's the ones that you do like. And you probably don't tell us. It's on MTV. What's it don't like, but then there's the ones that you do like and you probably don't tell us. It's on MTV. What's it called? Oh, man. Are You The One?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Are You The One? Yes! Yo, I watched that shit too. Okay, I'll explain it. I'll explain it. It's very simple. It's ridiculous. You get 10 guys and 10 girls
Starting point is 00:10:37 and you lock them in this house, right? And then you go... And then you don't feed them. Hold on, hold on. You're missing a few operative adjectives 10 emotionally stunted men and 10 emotionally stunted women who are very desperate for a connection that's correct and then what you do is you tell them that you've had like matchmakers and psychologists and love gurus guarantee them that within this house they have a perfect match
Starting point is 00:11:00 there are 10 perfect matches in this house and But there's only one way to find out and it's to send someone into the Truth Booth where you can only do it once a week. So here's what always happens. You're trying to get these 10 perfect matches so you guys can split a million dollars. And what always happens is that first match that they
Starting point is 00:11:20 send into the Truth Booth, everyone's just like, yo, these people are in love. We know it. Certainly, they're definitely in love. And know it certainly. They're definitely in love. And they go into the truth booth. Then they're 100% not a match. But those two people are like, we really love each other. So we're not going to partake. We're not going to partake in any of the competitions.
Starting point is 00:11:36 We're not going to date anybody else. It's just going to be us. And the rest of the show is everybody else trying to convince that one pair not to be together anymore. So they can find the actual perfect matches. Because at the end of every episode, what they do is, like, if they win a challenge, they can send someone to the truth booth to begin, like, figuring out who's a match. And then at the end, they all have to go to this, like, ceremony where they all pair off together and sit down and then, like, lights go on. Submit, like, a list of pairs, yeah. Yeah, lights go on to tell you how many matches you get.
Starting point is 00:12:02 But you don't know who they are. Right. So you're just like, oh, we got four right this week. We don't know who the pairs are. So you need to be mixing it up every week. Right. But that one fucking couple is just like, nah. And it's just funny.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I love them. I love him. I'm not going to separate. I don't care about the money. And then everyone's like, yo, bitch, you're fucking about the money. It's crazy, too, because a lot of people, you see how they really repeat their patterns. They're like, you know, I always date guys like this, and I'm really worried about a lot. And then they just end up falling for them anyway and fucking the game up.
Starting point is 00:12:28 How long are they locked in? Ten weeks. Yeah, it's like a ten-episode show. Oh, and each week is an episode type thing? If you just basically want to, like, for me, the thing I love about it for being in my early 30s now is, like, looking back and realizing the chaos that you have mentally of, like, trying to like trying to like you know if you really want your match or what it means to date or how you even process so you're like oh wow like i always date really shitty people or whatever and how these people completely disregard that because they just feel like well my perfect match is here so i'm just going to project that onto you it's a microcosm of dating in your 20s because truly
Starting point is 00:13:02 like everyone around them's just like yo this person's trash right and you're stepping in our way of success by dating this person but they're like i don't care i don't know what anyone says and it's always one ugly person every season who knows that like it's gonna be hard for them to find their match and they're all about the money like that's all they care about so there's a person being like yo let's get this money let's get this money because they know that but there is somebody else who has statistically or you know scientifically like very loosely termed scientifically uh been deemed to be the ugly person's match yeah everyone does every single person in the house worried that it's them yes and everyone's avoiding that person and not trying to dog it's so but then people come around too you know because then people were like man i really was actually feeling that person yeah
Starting point is 00:13:43 maybe i need to be honest remember that one time they added an 11th girl? Yeah, that was a problem. That was a very, very, very dope season. Our reality competition shows up. Right, exactly. Except for this one. You know what overrated was? People putting Dancing
Starting point is 00:13:59 with the Stars on their Instagram. I want to apologize to Ana Hosnia if I offended her by bringing up The Bachelor. Oh, yeah. You know what? You're overrated on this show. It's going to stop her check from coming in. Our super producer Ana Hosnia is... You host...
Starting point is 00:14:17 You produce a Bachelor podcast, right? What is it called? It's called Will You Accept This Rose? And it's hosted by... Okay. So it's not on this network, but, you know, we show love anyway. What's something that's underrated? Oh, man. You know what? I understand the pain of somebody looking at you and realizing that you're not, like,
Starting point is 00:14:38 they don't see what you're actually worth. I know what it's like to be in a room and have people not care about you and not realize how great you are. And I am disgusted with America and how we have disrespected Kevin Durant. And we have not given him his just due. And my guy had to drop 37 on him for y'all to be like, oh, I guess he is MVP. I guess he is great. He has always been great. To quote
Starting point is 00:15:06 a great, great football coach, Kevin Durant has always been who we thought he was. He's always been who we thought he was. The Durantula. And he went off last night. He showed his ex-teammate James Harden what's good. He said, I don't care. Put you on me.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Put Nene. Put Mbamute. Rockets have the most Nick Hunter team. Mba'umute. Hard names to pronounce. From UCLA. Shout out to him. I think he's actually a prince. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:15:33 In Cameroon. That's crazy. Kevin Durant is- That's a movie right there. I don't want to take over the kingdom. I want to play basketball. I want to play at UCLA. He is also the most recent iteration of the thing we see from time
Starting point is 00:15:47 to time which is the nba athlete who like needs to be motivated and like isn't motivated for most of the season and then like needs needs people to be like come on man try this time toxic and then toxic masculinity coming from jack o'b. You can't have men supporting other men. No. You can't have another man. Men trying to tear each other down. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you got to be your own alpha dog.
Starting point is 00:16:12 It's got to be. No. You know what? I would appreciate if Jack would text me every now and then and say, yo, Edgar, you're not stepping it up on Culture Kings. I need you to be your best on Culture Kings. That would make me feel good. I need you to want this. I need you to want this. That would feel good. would make me feel good. I need you to want this.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I need you to want this. That would feel good. Show them who you are. But we don't like that. We don't like other men supporting other men. We bash on it and we don't like it. It's why everybody used to come after one of my favorite, favorite Duke basketball players ever. I can't remember his name right now.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Yeah. Christian Laettner. Oh, Christian Laettner. When he would hold hands with Homeboy and walk around, everybody was hating on them because we don't like men supporting other men. Yeah. No, I agree that Kevin Durant is the Christian Laettner of the modern NBA. All right, let's move on.
Starting point is 00:16:58 How did he get on a dream team? I have respect the hell out of Kevin Durant's game, and the Warriors are one of the best teams that's ever played basketball. It's just disappointing to me as an NBA fan that there's not the equivalent team that is going to, at least this appears to be so, and we always overreact to a single game, but it appears as though they're going to just win the championship walking. I mean, listen, I'm still scared. To be honest i mean listen i'm still scared to be honest with you i'm still scared i don't know if we walk out of this series but i'm very happy that he put up
Starting point is 00:17:30 that performance last night to hush up certain twitter twitter haters the nba is at its peak of the nba is at its peak of interestingness and like the player peak talent like this is the best the league has ever been it just sucks that we're in an era like when the Celtics were winning every year back in the, what was that, like 50s or something? Right. There were only six teams where there's like a super team that, you know, it's going to be a huge upset if anybody besides them wins. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:02 What is a myth, Edgar? What's something people think is true you know to be false? I had to spend a lot of time on this one and I spent the night thinking about this one. And this is a myth that recently came up to my attention. This is a myth that Ana Salinas wears the pants in our relationship.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So you're laying the gauntlet down. And I want to directly address... Let people know who Ana Salinas is. There's been an epic goings on on Twitter, I feel like. Yes. Ana Salinas is at Bad Comics by Ana, which is my girlfriend. With an X. Very talented comics artist.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And a lot of people are acting out like, you know, she's the king and she's been roasting me and she's been doing all this. Right. She came on Culture Kings and dragged you. This is all by design. OK, I designed all of this. I'm trying to help out her career and I don't like that this is turning out into. Wow. That's peak toxic masculinity right there. You turned by your dragging into I'm actually empowering, and I'm letting her improve her career. Letting her win. That's good.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Actually, put all this down so when she comes on, she will be on this week, we can play this tape back. Play it back. And then she can just clap. No, she won't. What she'll say is, I would like to thank Edgar for the opportunities that he's given me. Behind every strong woman is a man who said, yo, that's dope that you're doing that. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yep. I do like that. I do like that you reversed that. Smacked it up, flipped it, and rubbed it down. Way to go. All right. We're going to, oh, man. We will get the other side of this myth when it comes on.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Stay tuned. What is that? It's going to be Thursday? I think tomorrow or two days from today. Yeah, two days from now. All right. The spicy conclusion. Same goes days from today. Yeah, two days from now. All right. The spicy conclusion. Same goes for Lacey.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Oh, shit. What? It doesn't even make sense. Guys, he is our guest tomorrow. He's laying down the foundation for a really great week of shows this week. Yeah, so the next two shows will mostly be about Edgar. Which is actually genius because now he's taken these other people's guest spots and now made it about him. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I'm Thanos up in these streets. Very Trumpian. All right. We're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about right now today. And we wanted to start out with a issue that Trump is stepping up on, jobs in China. Oh, right. Yeah. That's right, because it's America first, I think he was really campaigning on that
Starting point is 00:20:32 and bringing the jobs back. But he was tweeting about how this company ZTE, a telecoms company, a lot of lost jobs in China. We got to do something about it. Very bizarre. Everyone was scratching their heads. They're saying, why is the US president trying to act like he's concerned about lost jobs in China? Well, this company, ZT, is a telecoms company. They're owned by the Chinese government. And they were very bad the
Starting point is 00:20:53 last few years. They were doing business with countries like North Korea and Iran, which they're sanctioned countries. But they kept going anyway. And the Commerce Department was like, yo, we got to fine you because you're violating our laws. That's a $1.2 billion fine, fam. And on top of that, we're going to give you the death kiss, which means they're also going to prohibit that company from using U.S. parts because they make smartphones for any of their product, which is essentially going to completely destroy the business. Right. And so suddenly, like Donald Trump is saying like, yo, we actually got to do something about this. So he basically instructed the Commerce Department to, I guess, basically ignore the business. Right. And so suddenly, like Donald Trump is saying like, yo, we actually got to do something about this. So he basically instructed the Commerce Department to, I guess, basically ignore the law.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And then we come to find out that the Chinese government has basically offered Donald Trump $500 million in funding for this like weird hotel, theme park, golf course, Disneyland thing he's got going on in Indonesia. There's a Trump Disneyland. I mean, basically, it's this golf course and like white people calling the police on brown people. That's dope. Yeah. So suddenly, like, there's like, wait, what? What is this funding coming from?
Starting point is 00:21:57 So some people say, is this just a massive pay for play scheme? Is this part of like the bigger trade war thing? And some people, if you're looking at it like the trade war context, yes, to disrupt the supply line for a company is like a very big deal because most things that we manufacture, not everything is being made in one country. Sometimes parts, things that we manufacture here in the United States, we need parts that come from Europe or from Asia or whatever to manufacture these things. And so we're going into trade talks with China. these things. And so we're going into trade talks with China. Is this to basically not have them completely retaliate? Because I mean, if you think about it for the amount of sort of manufacturing components that we rely on China for, they could do like in-kind retaliation and that would be
Starting point is 00:22:37 catastrophic for just global business in general. So yeah, I don't know. I got a couple of questions for you guys, because you guys are two of the smartest people that I know. Oh, I'm sorry. That is really not good for you. I've been driving a lot lately. Oh, well, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Water is wet.
Starting point is 00:22:58 You've been. Hey, write that down. I've been driving a lot lately and I've been listening to NPR in my car. And I heard them say that this is upsetting both people across the aisles. And specifically, the most hydrated person in Congress ever, Marco Rubio, said that ZTE is doing espionage. What's he mean by that? Well, they're concerned that a lot of these devices they make can be sending information back or whatever. They just don't trust this company for us to be using to communicate with.
Starting point is 00:23:31 This is some house of cards shit. Yeah, they just see the potential security risk in a lot of these products. Right. And I think in the UK, too, their intelligence community has also been like, we have our eye on ZTE. Right. has also been like, we have our eye on ZTE. Right. And China has been known to spy on American companies, which is where most of our innovation and technological progress is being held,
Starting point is 00:23:55 is in our private companies. But because China is state-run, they can actually spy, steal intelligence, steal information, and then just use it themselves. So this is like in The Dark Knight where he has his phone and he puts his phone in the – they're just like, you have to leave your phone in the thing. In the lobby. And then he leaves it and then it's like stealing all that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Right, right. And they were blatantly breaking international laws. But, yeah, like you said, Miles, if they had gone out of business, China would have absolutely felt the shit out of that. And so they basically called Trump's bluff and were like, hey, we don't want this. And he was like, okay, what can I do? How do I fix this? What does he gain?
Starting point is 00:24:36 I mean, I guess personally his business gains. I mean, one of the examples people were giving was if China decided to say, okay, if you're going to do that, then we're going to say Apple can't make shit in our country. Or like, yeah. Can't get their parts from our country. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And then now what are we going to do? China got us by the balls. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's why everyone's like, why are you trying to puff your chest up with China? Like, that's like a losing battle. I mean, like, sure, maybe you could finesse something and get some kind of concession out, but that's not the smartest move.
Starting point is 00:25:05 But this administration isn't about the smartest moves. Another thing, too, is they say maybe this is just basically to get China to really help us out with this North Korea deal, too, because we need them to lean on North Korea to kind of get the sort of concessions that we are looking for, although the Trump administration has been kind of redefining what denuclearization is like in the last weekend of sort of like, well, as long as you're not a threat to us rather than like completely shut it all down. And yeah, we don't know. Xi could have just been like, yo, Trump was like, yo, help me out really quick. There's many ways to look at it. I mean, but it's very hard to look at sort of this other 500 million dollars coming in for like the Trump organization and be like, what's going down?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, that's the emoluments clause is, I don't know. It's just not being even thought about at this point. I feel like I ask you guys this every time I come on here, but what's it going to take, man? Because every time I come on, you guys tell me about some wild shit that Trump does and I'm like, yo, this is it. I'm going to go home and I'm going to get in bed.
Starting point is 00:26:03 This seems huge. Is it huge on a scale of one to ten? How huge is it i'm gonna go home and i'm gonna get in bed and it's like no this seems huge yeah no is it huge like on a scale of one to ten how huge is it it's very i mean well think about this no president has ever you know they've sold their businesses off or put it into a blind trust when they come into the office because they don't want to have any kind of they don't want to be uh perceived as being biased or any way can be accessed through their their businesses. You know, like Jimmy Carter had to sell his fucking peanut farm and shit like that. And even so for him to not put this company into a blind trust, his kids kind of run it. He's saying, I have nothing to do with it, but it's still the same board. I'm pretty sure, you know, the business is going on as usual and he's still fully, that's
Starting point is 00:26:41 his company. So it's, it, that, so it is very is very, there's nothing normal about this at all. And it's precisely this kind of shit that stinks. And that's why we had laws, and I use air quotes for that. Because they're weak as fuck. Yeah, but no one's going to enforce them. So I think really the only thing I think is worth really focusing about is, well, what other checks can we have on the executive branch that we can do something about?
Starting point is 00:27:10 And a lot of that has to do with voting in the midterms. May I speculate? Yes. Please, wildly. I went to a very Christian school, and they would do room checks every now and then where they would just like sweep your room. Oh, like prison. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:23 They would do room checks every now and then to sweep your room to see if you had like contraband, like liquor, weed and stuff like that. Quran or something. And everyone, a Quran, yeah. That was the worst one. That was expulsion with no chances of return. Harry Potter books. Yeah, Harry Potter books.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I mean, Jack, I was trying to go to school, okay? I'm not trying to be a bad kid. Right, right. If you had a Ouija board, boy, you heard of the second commandment? Yeah. So then we used to have friends on the inside that would be like, yo, yo, yo, room checks happening at this time and stuff like that. And rather than just get rid of the weed and the alcohol and stuff,
Starting point is 00:27:58 we would be like, how much of this can we use before we have to get rid of it? Oh, because you didn't have like a little dump spot that you could hide your contraband in okay so we were just like yo let's get as high as we can let's get as drunk as we can and that's what it feels like yeah before this room check goes down that's what it feels like the trump administration is doing to me it feels like they know right it's about to get busted up and they're just like yo how many wins can we get in before this shit's done because it's so clear to me that they're like on this pay-to-play shit and they're just like, yo, how many wins can we get in before this shit's done? Because it's so clear to me that they're like
Starting point is 00:28:26 on this pay to play shit and they're making all these backdoor deals and like, this Michael Cohen shit about like, I mean, it's so clear that,
Starting point is 00:28:33 yeah, everyone's getting checks and right now they're just like, listen, this shit's fucked. Dean Granados is coming into the dorm.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Let us smoke all this shit before it's over. It's very, I mean, yes, it's very much like i think they know that there's a time limit right and they know they realize too that there are many people willing to take advantage of their position in the administration or that now they are the people in power and yeah it's yeah yeah so it's either outright corruption like we're talking about and you know trying to enrich his the company that his kids still run. It's not like people are like, yeah, well, his kids run it now and it's not like he would ever want his kids to be enriched. But it's either that or he is reacting to the fact that America is in a weak position bargaining wise, which is a position that he specifically and explicitly put us in by like
Starting point is 00:29:27 going to the mats with China. And like, so I don't know. Like what he, his whole campaign was based off of. Right. He was talking that shit. Talking that shit.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And yeah, just to be more specific, the 500 million is to the, like, it's a project just to develop major Indonesian projects that include Trump things. So it's not specifically all that, but he's getting a good chunk of funding. So I don't want to misrepresent what that total is.
Starting point is 00:29:50 That's wild. All right. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
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Starting point is 00:33:45 to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back whoa sorry scared the shit out of the super producer on a hosier you definitely did she jumped out her chair uh all right so we wanted to just give a quick update on israel and the uh coverage of what what happened yesterday um the new y York Times was hailed for changing their headline. They changed it from Palestinian protesters killed as U.S. embassy opens in Jerusalem.
Starting point is 00:34:36 They changed it to Israel kills dozens at Gaza border, which referring to people who have been killed as dozens, it's like, I don't know what I was expecting them to like make it Baker's dozen of people killed by Israeli. They also, the New York times is calling it rifle fire when it's sniper fire, like sniper rifles, which I don't know. That's technically an important detail.
Starting point is 00:35:00 It's just a lot of, there's just a lot of softening. Yeah. They're obscuring a lot of what is going on there. And so I admitted something this morning I'm not proud of. But I – so I knew Gaza Strip, West Bank. I had a sense that that was where the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis happened. But I had never really like gone and read like specifically what is the Gaza Strip, what is the West Bank, and like where are they in the country and how it works.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So in case anybody's as stupid as me. And you call yourself a journalist, Jack? I don't. And you call yourself a second-rate podcaster, Jack? I do, yes. Okay. Go on. So Gaza is on the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So Gaza is on the West Coast. Their borders are completely controlled by Israeli forces, than the water in Flint. So this is why, uh, and also Gaza is the most populated, most densely populated region in the world, uh, because so much, so many of the people have been, been you know forced out off of their land and into that small strip of land so that's just to give you a kind of some context on you know who is going towards the fence and being shot by israeli snipers oh yo where's gal gadot at i don't know i'm i just don't understand like where are these she's caping for the idea probably yeah but where are these like celebrities Zionists that who are like out here talking that talk but when there's these clear blatant if this shit was happening in america or i'll put it this way and this might really get me into trouble but if this shit was
Starting point is 00:36:59 happening to white women like where the fuck would gal gadot be at like you know i'm saying and like it makes me so mad that we sit like they sit here and everyone's like talking about like these like anti-semitism stuff and like trying to demonize the other side when we're literally watching people be slaughtered for just peacefully protesting and i understand that some people might have gotten violent but again i've been listening to npr in the car and it sounded like these people were just like yo let's just demonstrate how hard it is over here right and then again fucking sniped and shit like that well i mean they're trying to like this pretty charged up that i
Starting point is 00:37:32 can't say that it's like you know non-violent in the sense that like it looks like what the marches look like in the civil rights where people just kind of i mean there's a lot at stake for these people so it's hard for them to be, do anything, but literally try and fight for their existence. They're running towards a fence. So basically Israel is trying to stop them from getting to the fence as, as though if they get to the fence, they'll be able to like bust through and go directly into Israel. But there's like also another like thing they would have to get through.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And then they could easily be arrested on the other side if they did make it through all of that. But we got some feedback from people who were saying that Israel should be allowed to defend itself and complaining about what happened yesterday is missing the point. But I don't know. Defend themselves against what? I would directly ask one of those people to tell me, defend themselves against what? What are these people are coming over there to do? Right. That's what I'm saying. Where are the numbers about the number of injured IDF soldiers? Yeah, I'm not going to deny that there are different sides of the story that are being given.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And it's hard to get a completely unbiased take on anything. But the bottom line is there were over 60 Palestinians killed by sniper fire. And there were a baby. fire. And there were. Including a baby. Right. Including a baby and zero deaths or even injuries among Israeli soldiers. So that's not a fair fight. That's not self-defense.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And it's killing innocent people. It's pure hatred. Because I was listening to an interview from the guy. And he was saying, like, basically my idea was if there's a bunch of us they can't stop all of us. And when I was listening to that I was like this dude is talking about pure desperation at this point. He's just like yo I'm trying to get us a win. All right we're gonna bring in Super Producer Anna Hosnia here. Hi. I just want to say that a lot of people don't understand that there is a serious buffer zone between the Palestinians and where the Israelis are.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Palestinians are a zero threat to any Israeli civilian. They're nowhere near them. The amount of, like what Jack was saying, there's a fence, and then there's like three other fences. So you can't just hop over and be on an attack or a threat to any Israeli civilian. It's not how it works. There's a buffer zone, and I think people need to understand that a lot of these people are just civilian. They're like older women.
Starting point is 00:39:54 They're older men. There's young people too, but they're not people that could actively go and harm any Israeli soldier. So I think there's a lot of blind spots in the media when it comes to that. They're not really describing what's happening out there. They're just saying there's protests. You see a photo of people running around and smoke and stuff, and they're like, oh, it's crazy. They're wilding out. Yeah. That's not the full story. And yeah, I think that's a serious problem. Well, I think hopefully what the media shift will begin to actually showcase or rather illuminate for people what the situation is for these people and why they are struggling to exist.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Because I think we only look at it from one side in terms of saying, oh, these people were killed in protests and that's it. But it's not. Why are these people protesting? What is their life situation? What is their existence like? Are they being treated with dignity? Are they treated like human beings? Like, what is their existence? Like, are they being treated with dignity? Are they treated like human beings? Well, I think here's what's going to happen. And I like that you brought up the civil rights movement earlier, which is, like, I'm pretty sure back in the 60s when niggas was watching it on TV, they were like, well, of course the firefighters had to hose them down.
Starting point is 00:40:56 They were coming at them. Or, of course, and, like, all those people now and when I look at that shit now and, you know, my white classmates are all like oh well you know if i was there i would have been upset and stuff like that but it's happening now and we're getting that side now and we're doing the same justifications in our head now like well the israelis have to protect themselves and 40 years from now our kids and our grandkids are going to read all that shit and go how could they do something yeah why do they do that why do they sniper rifle them do something like that? Why do they do that? Why do they sniper rifle them? And it's the same exact shit. We're justifying the same exact shit. Right. If you just read quotes from Israeli forces, if you read quotes from, we've spoken anecdotally about friends who have gone to Israel for a little while and then come back. And it's clear that there is an ideology in Israel,
Starting point is 00:41:47 in parts of Israel, in certain groups in Israel, that doesn't view Palestinian people as human beings. And you can hear it. Yeah, the othering is very severe and it's dehumanizing. Yeah, it's pretty wild. And only a culture that doesn't view people as human would be able to justify, you know, shooting 60. Yeah, that's like, oh, the U.S. too.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Right. With people of color. So, you know, it's everywhere. You know what I mean? And so I think, God, this is all about, are we willing to look at people with dignity or are we othering people so much that it's easy to perpetrate this kind of shit again yeah um and i also do want to remind everyone that
Starting point is 00:42:28 these protests have been going on for weeks yeah as part of the great march of return versus a lot of people are being like oh they're just mad because the embassy open it's like no they've been out here protesting for years for for basically since 1946, being like, you took our home away. In the past handful of weeks, 40 protesters have been killed by sniper fire from the Israeli soldiers, or over 40. So that is something that is fairly, I mean, it's not recent in the sense that there's been Israeli forces mistreating Palestinian people. But those protesters have been being shot for weeks. Also, there's no real excuse for live fire in this situation under any circumstance.
Starting point is 00:43:12 No. Because you could have easily used a rubber bullet, knocked someone down, and killed no one. Or just a lot of tear gas, whatever. Anything. Any other way to disperse people. You don't need to kill anybody ever. Yeah. anything any other way to disperse you don't need to kill anybody ever yeah uh what with sniper fire
Starting point is 00:43:27 being the most impersonal like just completely removed so you can't even say like oh they panicked because they were like down there in riot gear and like the people were coming at them no they were sitting up in a sniper's nest taking people out uh fucking trash yeah speaking of uh dehumanizing uh people in these united states of america yeah uh as not to mention they're like redlining welfare for people in states like michigan and shit they're like oh if you live in the rural part you don't have to work because that's mostly white but if you're in the urban center well you better have a job if you want these fucking benefits anyway i digress yeah So we've talked about how, you know, the idea of uniting all poor people behind a campaign for, you know, equality is was Martin
Starting point is 00:44:14 Luther King Jr.'s like last great movement and was wildly unpopular and at the time, and then he was assassinated in the middle of that movement. He was in Memphis for a labor strike. And so there's a guy named Reverend William Barber who is sort of picking that fight up and organizing a large-scale, long-term poor people's campaign that is expected to last six weeks in 35 different states. And it started yesterday. And the Reverend William Barber, who is in his 50s and is disabled, like his legs don't work that well, he has ankle problems, was arrested and put in jail for, I guess, blocking traffic. Yeah. Well, because yesterday there were, I think, demonstrations, like it says, in seven states, including D.C. And yeah, again, there's nothing more dangerous to this existing power structure we have in most of the world uh when you have the poor and downtrodden folk in masses realize who the actual
Starting point is 00:45:28 people are that are keeping them down yeah absolutely because it's easy to divide people along race lines or along religious lines or whatever and then their lines yeah whatever it is but the second you put everybody together it's like holy shit that's a very very it's frightening to again the existing powers that be and you know they're really trying to again with this poor people's movement they're focusing on real like real issues that affect all people that are completely non-partisan like in the purest form you know like whether it's just focusing on like poverty for children, women, lack of access to health care or education, education, basic civil rights and things like that. Right. People are not starving to death. Yeah. Like these are like real issues.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I have nothing to do with like partisan politics. And that's what is freaky because that resonates with anybody. I mean, you don't have to be you can be you can be you can be starving and a Democrat or you can be starving and a Republican. And it doesn't – really does not matter. So, again, I think this is something we've talked about. And I just – I really urge people to learn up about this because, I mean, it's like one of the nice bright spots in terms of the kind of advocacy that's occurring around the country. May I break it down for stupid people? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I had a friend in high school named ****. And ****, my man, was slinging his dick everywhere in high school. Okay? **** was getting it. Oh, I mean, not a gigolo. He just had game. Okay. He had colored eyes.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You know what I'm saying? There's always that one nigga who's just like, man, if you didn't have these colored eyes, you'd be a regular ass nigga. Yeah. I see you, Eric Sermon. Yeah. But all right. So he was slanging it.
Starting point is 00:47:14 And what he would do was he would be slanging it with mad girls who were all in our school and he would work effortlessly, like just like so much to make sure that they never ever liked each other so he would always be like a yo like he said this shit about you and oh this shit about you a yo yo these were these girls and why he was doing that was because he knew if they ever all hung out they would find out that he was fucking all of them mm-hmm And that's what's going on here. Thank you. We are.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Who are we? We are. You're. I'm. Jack, you got a real. I don't want to tell you what happens. But you got a real vibe. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I'll tell you. I'll hurt your feelings. OK. What happened? Man, I can't believe I'm using these real names. We're going to bleep this. Yeah. No, no. I'll tell you It'll hurt your feelings Okay What happened to Man I can't believe I'm using these real names We gonna bleep this Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:07 No no I'll tell you What happens at the end She was the one Who's played the most You know Played the most And then in the end She just ended up
Starting point is 00:48:14 Marrying him Oh Nice But she ain't know The whole time She was being played Everybody else knew I won
Starting point is 00:48:20 You know what I mean And that's what these white Like this 1%, this power structure is doing to us. They're playing all of us. And what they do is they. It's not us. It's the immigrants. It's not us. It's not us.
Starting point is 00:48:34 It's Muslims. You know why you're not getting jobs, white men? Because black people are taking them through affirmative action. Because Black Panther came out. Yeah, exactly. And then they make black men fight black women. Everyone's fighting each other, and we're not realizing that this power structure is winning. Boom.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And **** gets it in every night. I'm glad you have a nice way to tie it all together for every instance. Listen, I should have been an educator. But the problem is my metaphors would get me in trouble. Right. You would use metaphors about the people in the classroom. Exactly. Like, look, we all know that **** is fucking everybody in here. Right. You would use metaphors about the people in the classroom. Exactly. Like, look, we all know that s*** is f***ing everybody in here.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How do you know that, Mr. Momples? Look, I know. Right. Okay? Now, who's going to fight right now? So you know how Ricky always be stinking all the time? Y'all know how Ricky always be stinking?
Starting point is 00:49:19 Teachers really do gossip about that s***. We interviewed a bunch of teachers back at Cracked for a thing we were doing, and they were like, yeah, we gossip so much about the students yeah pathetic because yeah you realize like when that's your day job it's almost like the kids are your co-workers right right which is absurd to think about but it's true but yeah high school students you think your teachers don't know that you were like out getting up this weekend they know they know and they have like snitches oh man man, we had an epic, I remember my high school,
Starting point is 00:49:46 we thought there was a narc because like the dean found out about a party and like sat my entire class and I'm like, we know. Did you go to a boarding academy? No,
Starting point is 00:49:52 just a Catholic high school. Okay. And everyone like, we were obsessed with this idea of who the narc was and it was like just this complete, it was like the fucking, what's that M. Night Shyamalan movie?
Starting point is 00:50:03 Like the village kind of shit, where we were just sort of fearing a thing that did not exist that we had self-created. I don't know if that sounds like an M. Night Shyamalan movie. No, that is what happens, and it keeps them in that thing. Yeah, and it keeps us in the thing. We're like, oh shit, who the narc? And we were devising the craziest ways to party.
Starting point is 00:50:19 That's how my dad would punish us. He would come in and be like, I know what you did. Right. And then we'd be like, oh, fuck. How'd the teacher find out? We don't know. I think it was ****. Oh, shit. So it wasn't art. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And that's who we suspected. And then he got excommunicated from- Was he always rolling around dressed up like a wolf? Nah, he got in trouble for like having like- He got in trouble for like bringing weed or some shit to school. So they had him. They were like, yo. In our mind, we were like, you see, they already got that shit on him.
Starting point is 00:50:44 So the way he's going to get out of of it like it was like a fucking rico case or some shit right it's a good movie i think it's a good movie village i think it's a good movie it's just weird i think people i think it hit people at a time when they were just like tired of his twist endings yeah but i thought it was a better twist ending than fucking signs yeah definitely i thought signs gets a pass because it's just like where it fell in his career. And then the village gets hated on, I think, too much. I agree with you. But the message behind it is so solid.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah. No, for sure. I met somebody who passed out in the theater watching Signs because it was too intense for them. Yo, that movie's so stupid. And I will never respect that person. Yeah, that movie's dumb. And it was the part where the alien walks by behind the camera in the birthday party. Yo, shout out to my boy.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Literally, they said they seized up, like not had a seizure, but just like tensed up and then just passed out. And they had to stop the fucking movie so the paramedics could take this person out who couldn't handle an alien walking by in a home video of a birthday party. Oh, man. Shout out to my boy, Dean Dobbs, who I met. Very, very dope YouTuber. I met him at the Sundance Institute. We met because everyone was introducing themselves, and he said, I saw the movie Signs,
Starting point is 00:51:53 and I wanted to make movies, and I busted out laughing because that was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard. But I respect Dean. I think he's so dope, Dean. But when he said that shit, I was like, pfft. I need to watch that movie again because apparently it's inspiring a generation of filmmakers.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Isn't that? And if I don't appreciate it, then I'm just not going to get movies for the next 20 years. And be like, yo, what is this? And it's all informed by the aesthetic of science. It starts off with Homeboy's wife getting crushed, right? No, it ends with that. That's like a reveal towards the end. You think it starts out like that because that's how a scary movie for starts out right right
Starting point is 00:52:29 it's the scene where yeah promise me you want that's right and he's just like move the car that's a bad look when I'm complaining I mean it is they're stealing that scene from so course of it like Yeah, it's like... Those thieves. Scream 2, you... I never remember the scene in Scream 2 where the knife goes through the person's ear because they put it up to the glory hole because of the scene where the dick goes through... Oh, the guy's ear.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Is it Sean or Marlon? I think it's Sean. I think so. Shout out to the Wayans brothers. Shout out to the Wayans brothers. Except for Damon. That's where I thought that story was going to end. Except for Damon Wayans.
Starting point is 00:53:06 He's deep in that shit right now. Go Google Damon Wayans when you guys are done with this and see what's happening to him right now. He's getting roasted on Twitter. Why? For the lethal weapon shit? Yeah. Because he talked shit about that one dude? Everyone is blaming him.
Starting point is 00:53:21 For what? The guy getting fired? Yeah. They all think it's Damon Wayans' fault. And niggas are just like, of course you do this. You're such a crybaby diva. Of course the black guy would ruin this show.
Starting point is 00:53:33 He is getting destroyed. By the right wing or who? I don't know. I guess niggas really like that show Lethal Weapon and they like that dude. Which is so confusing because when I watched the show, I watched it because of Damon Wayans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know who the fuck that dude is.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Right. Well, now they got Sean William Scott or whatever, right? And people are so mad. They're like, I'm telling you, go on Damon Wayans' Twitter right now. Because he was trying to, like, release videos of, like, what happened was they let that dude direct an episode. And then Damon Wayans got injured in the process and was really upset about it because people had told him hey don't do this and stuff like that but the guy still was just like no i want to do this certain special effect and it like cut into damon wayne's head oh no like sharp bald head yeah all right we're gonna
Starting point is 00:54:17 go look at damon wayne's twitter and we will be right back. President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
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Starting point is 00:58:42 Wow, Bofo Bo. As the awful, awful lingo in Hollywood. Yeah, why Bafo Bo as the awful awful lingo in Hollywood yeah why Bofo I because they say that in political fundraising too it's like Bafo fundraising what is that this means a shitload of money yeah good done real good but so we wanted to talk about The Quiet Place first because, you know, I talked about one interpretation that it is representing like white people's fear of interpreted the political ramifications because horror movies generally have some sort of anxiety or like political you know underpinnings to that right it starts off with like a social anxiety that you grow into like this fear right and there's also the fact that they don't soundproof most of their house at all. That has nothing to do with what we're about to talk about, but that is just something that drove me crazy. There's a scene where they go and hang out by a waterfall,
Starting point is 00:59:53 and the waterfall is so loud that they can just make as much noise as they want. It's like, yo, build your house by the waterfall, motherfucker. What are you doing? The only quiet place I like is the Take Six song. Oh. Okay. I just wanted to say that yeah no sick reference but yeah so horror has always been a vessel for channeling political angst like mccarthyism and invasion of the body snatchers jaws is apparently about vietnam hostile and saw came out during the torture debate um and, you know, Get Out was Trump-era social commentary,
Starting point is 01:00:29 I think we could call it. Or just commentary. Social commentary. There's race relations, yeah. What happens when they stop blocking people of color from making movies. And it... That was a good burn.
Starting point is 01:00:44 And it was also compared like despite the fact that it was based on a 30 year old book uh people were pointing out that it's a bunch of marginalized losers fighting back against a malevolent clown um so we wanted to look at uh the quiet place because one of the things i noticed is even though it did huge box office in America, it didn't do that well overseas. And like if you look at the top 20 movies, like global box office, usually over 50% comes from overseas markets. Right. And, you know, sometimes it's as much as 99, obviously, because like some of the movies are just like big in China, movies that you've never heard of. How did Get Out do overseas?
Starting point is 01:01:30 I think it was like solid, but not amazing. Not amazing, right. And A Quiet Place similarly did only 37% of its business overseas, whereas everything else in the tops is like 70 80 uh 60 at the at the lowest could it be because horror is like so culturally specific i think i think that's definitely true um but it yeah so it's just interesting that it's like such a specifically american movie that it does seem like it's getting at some anxiety that is specific to America. Other people were saying that it represents Trumpism in some way. Some people are saying it represents the experience of being an illegal immigrant in America because you can't make noise,
Starting point is 01:02:20 you can't like go to the hospital because otherwise like ice will come for you uh and that's the interpretation that uh the director john krasinski uh from the office was like oh that's a fun one uh he chose not to comment on the one that's about like white anxiety around pc culture the star of the benghazi movie that's what i was gonna say is like i don't know i've kind of spread around a rumor about him that he's super republican because he was in that benghazi movie? That's what I was going to say. It's like, I don't know. I've kind of spread around a rumor about him that he's super Republican. Because he was in that Benghazi movie. And then he, like, is in the movie Detroit playing the lawyer that is trying to get those black kids to go to jail. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:02:56 And it's like, you definitely didn't audition for this part. Like, you're John Krasinski. Your agent was just like, yo, look at these sides. Right. If you wanted this part, it's because you wanted it. Like it like you know I mean like that's there's no way so to me it feels like he likes going into this conservative realm so much that I wonder like is he a conservative I've tried googling it and nothing's come up hmm interesting I you know I just look at him as Jim and I can't help I it's honestly hard so hard for me to look at John Krasinski as anything other than Jim
Starting point is 01:03:25 watch Detroit and see how he's just like why were they in that house do you believe these young black men had a gun I do and he's just like there's conviction in this performance like you know what I mean I believe him bro I think he's conservative and I think Emily Blunt is trapped
Starting point is 01:03:41 she's trying through her movies to send messages to you saying, rescue me. Infinity War has recently overtaken Black Panther to be the most successful movie in the world this year. Black Panther also
Starting point is 01:03:55 less than 50% global box office. So it's not as much as A Quiet Place, but still to a large degree more an American phenomenon than other countries, though it still did really well overseas. But now Avengers is the most successful movie in the world. In the world. With 66% of the box office being made overseas.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Jesus Christ. make me wonder if it's getting at something like because it's sort of and i don't want to spoil anything but just tonally it is the empire strikes back of the marvel cinematic universe it's very like ends not in a happy place uh and i'm just a very good point i'm just wondering if it's resonating so well with people because, you know, it's matching how people are experiencing the world right now, how people feel about the world. The news does not have many happy endings right now for the vast majority of the people on the globe.
Starting point is 01:04:59 On the globe? Yeah. Around the globe. You know what? I think that's spot on, Jack. And here's why I think that's spot on is because you walk out of that movie wanting deeply to believe that it's not that way that what you just saw isn't what's happening right and man that's exactly how I felt on that day right like I remember like being like nah I'm awake up right awake oh this
Starting point is 01:05:22 shit's not real and I I think that, yeah, I think that that's exactly what that movie is tapping into. Yeah. I wonder, like, because when I first saw the previews for this movie, I was like, you agree, when I first saw the movie. Miles on board. I was like, this just looks, I don't know, I'm so exhausted by Avengers movies, I just don't I don't know. I'm so exhausted by Avengers movies.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I just don't give a shit enough to like go see this movie. And then because of like, that was before anyone knew how it was going to end or that it was going to be this totally different sort of type of plot. Then once it came out and had this sort of Empire Strikes Back style ending, it became like a monster hit. I do wonder if it would have been less of a hit, you know, like if we were getting tired of the Avengers thing. And then they revived it by sort of completely matching how we were feeling tonally. Well, I would even say like because and again, trying to tiptoe around the ending.
Starting point is 01:06:24 But also, come on come on man it's been out for like three weeks yeah it's still not enough i get i get shit for spoiling the sixth sense still what yeah wait when was i saying someone gave you shit for spoiling on twitter this weekend what this fucking weekend yo jack had the receipts he's been on twitter this weekend give me the handle so i can let's roast this yeah they're on the list they're on the they're on the list on the next culture kings because they're dumb as fuck all right but tiptoeing around that ending like even now people are still like well i don't care because they're gonna solve it and like you know what i mean right yeah which is exactly how
Starting point is 01:06:59 we respond to the trump president exactly and muller's coming to save the day. Yeah. With his time turner. He's going to get the infinity gauntlet. Right. But I think that what is interesting, though, is what you were saying is that it's reinvigorated us to care about the Avengers universe in a way that Trump becoming president reinvigorated a lot of people to care about politics.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Yeah, exactly. Because I remember specifically me being like well why will i vote it's like a done deal man h h she's gonna win i don't like her uh she's gonna win and like whatever and then when that nigga won i was like hey yo all right tell me everything i need to do so i think yeah i think kevin ph definitely like, yo, how do we get people that care? Because we're definitely exhausted of these dudes winning all the time. Right, right. Jack, The Sixth Sense came out in 1999.
Starting point is 01:07:53 He's not saying that he cares. I'm just, I'm still blown away that someone is, this shit came out in a different century. Right. All right. Anyway, I'm sorry. Okay. I couldn't wrap my head around it. The reason we talk about movies, though, on the daily zeitgeist is that I've always felt like movies are sort of a reflection.
Starting point is 01:08:12 They're like cultural theories that you can almost read them like the dreams of the culture. So that's just why we talk about it. Even though they are works of fiction, they sort of have been known to represent the sort of unconscious of the nation. Art imitates life. Yeah. And so just in terms of other movies that were bigger than I realized, Ready Player One is the fourth biggest movie in the world this year, which I thought it was like did okay.
Starting point is 01:08:44 But yeah, it did 573 bills so million no billion million oh whoa did 573 million trillion dollars so just to put it in perspective though avengers has made 1.6 billion dollars so far uh black panther has made 1.3 billion dollars so far and then the third place movie, Operation Red Sea, which I think is a Chinese movie, has made $579 million. So it's like the two Marvel movies are like next level. Rampage, monster hit. So...
Starting point is 01:09:20 Good. $398 million. Well played, my man. Sixth most successful movie so far this year, Fifty Shades Freed, the seventh most successful movie so far this year. And that's big overseas because people overseas are horny. They like bondage.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Peter Rabbit. So these are all movies I think people need to see. No. You need to know what is going on with the people around the globe. I don't need to. I talk to people. Nah, just watch the movies. I don't socialize.
Starting point is 01:09:53 According to Jack, I just need to see movies, and then I'll know what's happening in the world. So did you know there are monsters destroying cities in this country? Pacific Rim was a big hit overseas and not in the United States. Pacific Rim Uprising. And Tomb Raider, also a big hit overseas, not in the United States. Pacific Rim Uprising. And Tomb Raider, also big hit overseas. Not in the United States. Really? Even with the reduced
Starting point is 01:10:12 in breast size? The regular bodied human being? Overseas was down? No, overseas was big. 79% of it. That's what I'm saying. With the reduced breast size, they were still in? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Respect overseas. They were like, man, what's wrong like, we're still in? Yeah, yeah. They were just at America. Yeah, America, where they were like, man, what's wrong with her? It doesn't look anything like Lara Croft. Right. Lara Croft is a video game, my guy. Nice times up. Nice times up, pin overseas. Because of a mistake the engineers made.
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Starting point is 01:10:56 perform at UCB weekly. You guess or? Listen. You stopped saying? All the days are blending together. Everything's theoretical, Miles. Thank you. Thank you for putting that in perspective for me. Miles, where can people theoretically find you?
Starting point is 01:11:12 Theoretically, if you wanted to use an application, theoretically, called Twitter or Instagram, you could find me, possibly, at Miles of Ray. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,
Starting point is 01:11:39 where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode. And we also link off to the song we ride out on, which, Miles, what is that going to be? Okay, so we are going to play a little track that's kind of a mashup of the lyrics from B.I.G.'s, or the acapella, basically, of B.I.G.'s Somebody's Gotta Die, over a beat that this producer made called J.H. Fly, or it could be Jeff Fly. I don't know. People have weird names. I don't know how to pronounce them. But this track's called Learjets and coops. Uh, and it's dope, like a little flip of a BIG track. So yeah, Tuesday, let's go. Oh, uh, all right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. I'm sitting in the crib dreaming about Learjets and coups
Starting point is 01:12:29 The way some shoops at Ida sell records like Snoop I'm interrupted by a doorbell, 352 Who the hell is this? I get some quick cocks, my shit Stop the dogs from barking, they proceed to walking It's a face that I seen before, my nigga Zynga used to sling on the 16th floor, check it, I look deeper, I see blood up on his sneakers, and his fist ripped a chrome for a fifth, so I dip, nigga, is you creeping or speaking, he tells me C-Rock just got hit up at the beacon, I opens up
Starting point is 01:13:01 the door, pitiful, it's the incredible retaliation, but this one won't be minimal, cause I'm bout to leak it I opens up the door pitifully Seeing critical retaliation But this one won't be minimal Cause I'm a criminal Way before the rap shit Bust the gadget Y'all don't even know what happened If it's done smoothly Silences on the loosey Stash in the hootie
Starting point is 01:13:17 My alibi, any cutie With a booty that done fucked Big Pop Head spinning reminiscent About my man C-Rock Somebody got to die If I go, man C-Rock Somebody got to die If I go, you got to go Somebody got to die Let the gunshots blow
Starting point is 01:13:30 Somebody got to die Nobody got to know that I killed your ass in the mix, bitch Somebody got to die If I go, you got to go Somebody got to die Let the gunshots blow Somebody got to die Nobody got to know that I killed your ass in the mid-a-s, bitch
Starting point is 01:13:48 Fill in clips, he explained our situation Precisely so we know exactly what we facin' Some kid named Jason, in a Honda station Raggin' was braggin', about how much loot and crack he stackin' Rock had a grip, so they formed up a clique A small crew, round the time I was locked up with you, true indeed But nigga let me proceed Don't fill them clips too high, get them bullets room to breathe
Starting point is 01:14:11 Damn I was like yeah, run out of town, blew the fuck up D-Rock went home, the J got stuck the fuck up Hit him twice, caught him right for the Persian white Pissed him with his kids and taped up his wife He figured Rock set him up, no question When I'm up, no less than 50 shots in his direction How many shots, man, nigga, I see mad homes What kind of gas, kitchen and cops and calicoes
Starting point is 01:14:35 But fuck that, I know where all them niggas rest at In the building hustling and they gon' be strapped Supreme and Black, it's downstairs, the engine running Find a bag to put the guns in and come on if you're coming Somebody got to die If I go, you got to go We'll be right back. Somebody got to die Let the gunshots blow Somebody got to die Nobody got to know that I killed your ass in the mix, bitch Exchange hugs and pies before the throwdown I was gon' go down Ladies, niggas, slow down
Starting point is 01:15:15 Slow down, uh Fuck all that planet shit Run up your neck, crimson Make the cats abandon ship See niggas like you do ten-year bids Miss the nigga they want And murder innocent kids Now I, one nigga's in my eyes
Starting point is 01:15:30 That's Jason, ain't no slugs Gonna be wasted, preventive pasted At the tip of my lips I can't wait to feel my clippin' as it Pass the chocolate, time This thing ain't live There's Jason with his back to me Talkin' to his faculty
Starting point is 01:15:45 I start to get a funny feelin' Put the mask on in case this nigga start squealin' Scream his name out, squeak six, nothing shorter Nigga turn around, holdin' his daughter Fuck you you Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself?
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