The Daily Zeitgeist - Inflation Just CEOs Liking Money, Valentine’s Day Dinner / Movie Recs 2.14.22

Episode Date: February 14, 2022

In episode 1084, Jack and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by animated TV writer Greg Hahn to discuss Is Inflation Just CEOs Raising Prices?, Valentines Day, The Worst Day To Go Out To Dinner!, Best Nontraditional Romantic Movies and more! Is Inflation Just CEOs Raising Prices? Fastest Profits Since 1950 Debunk Wage Inflation Story of CEOs Valentines Day, The Worst Day To Go Out To Dinner! Follow: @TAGwritersLISTEN: Afro Blue [feat. Erykah Badu and Phonte] (9th Wonder Blue Light Basement Remix) by Robert Glasper Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And it is Monday, February 14th, 2022, Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day to one and all. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. He makes his money off tragedy. Yeah, he's a-selling 9-11 tees. Oh, he's an old grifter. Way out of line. Giuliani.

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like Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Welcome to our show. You've heard her on Pop Culture Happy Hour and read her at Vulture, The A.V. Club, Teen Vogue, Paste, many more. She is the brilliant and talented Joelle Moniz! And Brooke Howe, a.k.a. the Purple Lipstick Dawn,

the Four Loko Survivor, and the Marvel Defender. Yes. Purple Lipstick Dawn. Yes, yes. We're back. We're ready. Happy Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day to you, too. Speaking of for loco, which is, I think, the traditional beverage of Valentine's Day, at least in this household. You don't you want to have a good time. You don't want to remember it is my. Right, exactly. No, Joelle, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny TV writer for animated shows such as Sonic Boom, Unikitty, the upcoming Transformers, BotBots, and the award-winning short, The Accomplice. Please welcome the very funny, the very talented, Greg Hahn!

But, hey, thanks for having me, guys. What's up, man? Hi, Greg. That's me, a.k.a. I Did Not Prepare, and also known as... That's okay. You don't have to do that. I have had one, and my brother's a producer on the show, and he was like, do you maybe want to come up with some more? And I was like, that's a good idea.

Justin, leave Joe alone. No, no, he's producing He's doing his fucking job He was like, they miss Miles I was trying to give the fans a shout out Who Joel did not credit for her AKAs By the way I was trying to Discord

I looked at the discord and saw what they were Talking about and then I made them up Myself That's how we got here. We're all together now. Greg, are you coming from the Ninja Turtles headquarters? That is my backdrop

today on Zoom. Wonderful. It's just a backdrop. It doesn't smell as bad as I imagine it does normally for the Ninja Turtles. Do they ever comment on that? Pepperoni and video game sweats? Perfect.

And sewage, right? Just raw sewage? We don't talk about that. It's just candles. It's like Bruno. It's over there. It's not in our forefront of our heads. I love it.

Right. It's a good hangout spot. It's not bad. Yeah. Yeah. It is a fun background. You're telling me it's only a Zoom background. It's not an actual background.

No, I don't live in a sewer. Not currently, at least. I didn't know. Let's hope it stays that way. You work in animation. I didn't know if you actually lived in an animated world or what we were working with here, Roger Rabbit style. No, but working in animation, sometimes I worry that I might end up having to live in the sewer, but I'm sure we'll get to that. Let's talk about it. Let us know. Yeah, yeah. What's happening in the world of animation? going on and starting again today the Animation Guild is going back into negotiations

with the AMPTP, the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers and this is a good thing. It gives us a chance to kind of fight for more money and you know just get a better deal overall and you know I'm not here in any official capacity

I'm not on the negotiations team. I'm not here in any official capacity. I'm not on the negotiating negotiations team. I'm not, you know, I'm not an elected official in the guild. I'm just an engaged member active in the writers community. And I was looking at my paychecks and I was looking around at my colleagues and frankly, wondering why so many of us who are actively working as writers and in other places in the industry, we're kind of still struggling to get out of our one-bedroom apartments. And why are we still in this position?

And so I wanted to help out in any way I can. So I thought, how can I contribute? And so I started making some memes and contributing in the dumbest way possible that could still help spread the word and that's just kind of part of the campaign that has turned into hashtag pay animation writers and hashtag new deal for animation and so uh yeah that's what i'm here to discuss that's awesome man yeah i mean not awesome that you're that you're in the position you're in but very cool that you guys are doing something about it i think it's come up a couple

times on zeitgeist before like just in passing i think we talked about the fact that one of like the writer of was it it was one of the classic disney films that made billions of dollars, maybe Aladdin, maybe Lion King. Yeah. Like, I think they got paid in pizza. Like, they did not, like, they are not living in a mansion somewhere. They spent, like, four years writing and rewriting the script for Disney and got, like, a lump sum. And they were like, all right, and we'll sometimes credit you. Goodbye.

I can't be 100 sure i think it's lion king you're talking about and i feel like the writers were they weren't you know they weren't wga they were maybe in tag and they weren't getting quite a great rate and then you know the lion king's been remade practically shot for shot in a live action right that's why it came up yeah and those and whoever wrote that is getting like bank compared to the person who wrote the original material that everybody knows and loves. And it's the reason why another one was even made. So, yeah, these are the kind of struggles that are that are going on. particularly when you consider about jobs that are like one-to-one in the industry like writing an animated feature is no different than writing a live action feature and yet the the price disparity between those writers is huge it's like phenomenal and trying to wrap our minds around that and then when you get into the artists of it all you know if you are outside the pixar bubble like it's really a struggle

yeah yeah it's it's pretty crazy and you know yeah i mean the numbers are massively different you know and like you said like a 30 minute script the written by you know for an animated show versus a 30 minute script written for a live action show that's the same number of pages that's the same amount of work except one gets paid significantly less a live action compared with live action and animation freelance script gets 26 to 66 percent less than a live action script like it's a huge disparity right 60 oh my lord yeah it only makes sense for the purposes of you know ceos and massive Right. 60%. Oh, my Lord. has made historically more money over time? Is it SpongeBob and Transformers and Ninja Turtles? Or, you know, I'm just going to pick on some shows from the 80s, so I'm not picking on anybody current. You know, like what is Remington Steel or Jag or Pacific Blue? You know, like those aren't pulling in the same kind of money in the long term as a SpongeBob SquarePants, which is like the number one most binged show on Paramount Plus.

Well, if they would pick up my Remington Steel reboot that I've been shopping, then maybe they would start making some money. They should. They should. Yeah, it makes no sense. Is there like a standard explanation for why the difference in price? Like, is there something the industry comes back and be like, well, X, Y, Z, you guys are different. Yeah, I mean, part of it is

the union that we're in. We're not part of the WGA, so it was a different contract initially. I don't want to get into the semantics of all of that, but basically, we need to close the gap on that parity between the two, because it really just doesn't make sense.

I always wanted to write i mean like i always wanted to write for cartoons as a kid you know a nine-year-old me would be ecstatic to learn i've written for characters like sonic or the transformers but nine-year-old me also thought i'd own a house one day yeah sorry kid self i'm very excited to be talking to somebody who wrote for the Transformers. When we say bedtime prayers at night, my three-year-old's standard bedtime prayer is that he have cool Transformer dreams. This is big. I'm going to be bragging about it to him and not in a nice way, like really rubbing it in his face when he gets home from preschool.

But yeah, I don't know. This kind of leads nicely into our first story, which we're going to get to after we get to know you a little bit better. But yeah, I mean, the first story we have on the dock is like inflation. Like, the standard narrative in the media, like, is like economists are saying, oh, it's because record profits. Like they're making more money than they've ever made before during a global pandemic because they can. And I feel like this is all part of the same sort of system that we're talking about where, you know, we talk a lot of shit on capitalism on this podcast but it's not like like all the all the you know things that are supposed to happen in capitalism that are supposed to be like checks and balances and like well if like one company

decides to raise prices that's bad for them because the other companies will come in and you know offer the same thing for like that shit isn't happening anymore because like the corporations have all the powers and they haven't been checked in terms of like monopolies. So we'll get into all that shit in the second act. That's going to be fun. We're going to maybe get to what is happening at military bases because it's's a very mysterious bunch of crime. A very mysterious bunch of crime, a new true crime podcast. We're going to talk about the fact that it is Valentine's Day, which according to Gordon Ramsay and me, after 14 years of being married and going out to dinner on Valentine's Day, is the worst day to go out to dinner of the 365 options available to

us. So talk about why that is, why it's still sometimes fun, and whether it's cool to sit on the same side of the table with somebody that you are on a date with. Hot topic. Hot topic. Maybe I'd also like to get you guys' thoughts on the best non-traditional romantic movies around Christmas. There's always the damn. Okay. I did kind of spring that on you. And I added that to the doc five minutes before we started recording. I was a little worried.

And then I was like, oh, never mind. It's Joelle. I got this locked and loaded. But yeah, like aroundmas where everyone's like die hard's actually my favorite christmas movie i say that so i don't know why i made it that person sound like an asshole but the you know what what is the equivalent valentine's day like what's the romantic movie that's not overtly classic rom-com so we'll talk about that plenty more but before we get to any of that, Greg, we like to

get to know our guests by asking them, what is something from your search history? Search history. All right. I'm going to start in a weird place, guys. We're going real deep cuts. So I love going to the flea market. My wife and I go to the flea market. I'm a big toy collector. So I like to find old, vintage, retro stuff from my childhood that I can get for pretty cheap. Recently, I went to the flea market the other week. I only spent $10, and I walked away with some cool stuff, including something called snailions. I don't know if either of you remember what snailions is at all but this is what i i did a google search for recently this sounds like one of the bad pitches from the movie big like the scenes where they're

like in the toy boardroom and like one of the out of touch middle-aged people's like what about like aliens that are snails yeah i think it was like robot buildings was one of the ones. Yeah, it was a building that transformed into a robot. Josh Baskin had to shoot down. I still think that Robot Building would have been a great toy. But here's the Snailion that I bought. You can see on the visual medium that we're all listening to. Yes. It looked like a small, malformed wolf person, dog person.

They're horrifying to look at. Yeah, a little yellow dude, a little rubber thing. So the Snailians were a line of toys that was, it was these Snailians from outer space. They moved, they flew down to Earth and settled down in Snail Francisco. And they fight against the evil Lunartix. And the thing about them is they're basically another one of those Ninja Turtle rip-offs. So each of the characters, you know,

the Ninja Turtles are named after famous painters, Leonardo, Donatello, Michelangelo, Raphael. The Snellians are all named for presidents. So it's Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, and Lincoln. And then if you look at the art on the packaging that I stumbled upon through my Google search, they even do this shot where all of them are standing heroically, and then they have the coins.

There's like a quarter, a nickel, a dime, and a penny that they're just standing so proudly in front of. Yeah. I don't know what more to say about the Snailians, but this does say something about me that this is something I spent significant time looking into. I mean, yeah. There is a VR video game on Steam called Snailians.

Yes, unrelated. Unrelated. unrelated unrelated okay okay i was like did somebody revive this no yes that of course i stumbled upon that in my google search as well but no that's that that is unrelated so there's a little uh there's a little peek into my google search history yeah that that picture that you were, I found it on one of the first snailions search results. And it's on a single web page that has just combined all the text and pictures on a single like a like a Word document. Yeah. First sentence, first sentence on the page. So it says snailions like it's the title of a term paper. And it says, I've been running this sad little website since early 2001 it's like damn all right you got me uh greg they do not appear to be snails is my is my no well they came they initially came with some sort of armor that i guess makes them more snail like but uh it does not but it looks cool as hell it It's like almost Aztec-y, because they're still bipedal, which makes no sense for a snail. And I guess their squishy bodies are the snail part, and then the armor is quote-unquote the shell.

It doesn't have a nice swirl pattern on it. Again, I think a miss from the design team. But it does look cool. It's like Aztec meets transformers armor yeah but so they are lying to consumers to convince them that these creatures are the slowest animal like that kids know about basically i mean i doubt that that was a push like oh they're really slow like i don't know i don't know what it is about snails that they thought explicitly appealed to kids but like you said they they apparently ignored it entirely right so it just said they had a sort of good name that was catchy and they were like let's roll with it

was the plan to eventually make an animated television show because i feel like that's what a lot of i'm sure groups were back in the day damn we really missed out yeah i don't think it would have been good, but I do think it would have been great to make fun of. It would have been something. I would kill to write the Snailians TV show. Yeah. You guys heard Greg. Hire him now. Salt has to be a figure into this in some way, right?

Like the evil salt monster, the evil salt truck or something. If the Lunar Ticks had, yeah, salt guns that fired on them, I mean, that would be horrifying. We've seen what salt can do to these things. Yeah. Every kid has seen that. Man, I just really want to be at the pitch session

where this got greenlit. It sounds amazing. Where was Josh Baskkin when you needed him what is something you think is overrated greg man i don't want to talk about toys all day but i but i'm going to get the the funko pop vinyls i okay you guys shots fired oh shots fired well this is everybody's favorite toy. I guess I understand the charm of having one toy with one aesthetic, and you can get every line of everything, so they all look nice next to each other.

But I don't want my toys extra deep. I mean, I don't want them cute and adorable, and I want them extra detailed and craggy and postulating or or alternatively i like really cheap poorly made stupid things but i don't know snail-based things but yeah i don't know they're they're too cute for me and everybody loves them and i just go like that doesn't appeal to me i I don't want something adorable. I want something that looks like it was from a horror movie. I totally respect that. And I would say that they are not toys.

Like, I don't know who's, like, to me, a toy's got to inspire imagination and storytelling and all of that. Like, you want to, like, take it down and, like, pose it or something. And it has none of those capabilities. Sure. It is, to your point, it is specifically like pose it or something. And it has none of those capabilities. It is to your point, it is specifically designed just to be cute as a person who like, I'm super into care.

I don't know if you can see on my back wall. Those are a lot of my portraits of some of my favorite animated characters. Grogu, Catwoman. But I think I like Pop Funkos because they look nice in my collections. You know, I have a bunch of Ironheart Riri stuff. And then there she is right in there. And it's all like cute and packaged. Just from a design. I don't understand the people who keep them in boxes and then just have rows and rows of boxes of Pop Funkos.

You can't see them. They're not on display. They come with cute little stands so that you can easily display them. I feel like they're like 90s meaning babies. Put them all over your desk and show a little bit about your personality. Highlight what characters you like. Good conversation starters.

But yeah, to your point, definitely not a toy. And these are a valuable toy, it would appear. Like there are, they trade, right? It varies. It varies. There are some that are probably very worthless. I mean, they make them for literally every franchise and IP you can imagine. So, yeah, I think that's the appeal. Really? I get that. I'm looking at the list of the most valuable as of 2021. Alex DeLarge, Clockwork Orange Funko.

Really? I'm disappointed in us as a society what an adorable little rapist i know i've always said like somebody needs to bring out how adorable this character is and finally wow okay get your jamie jamie lannister your Dumbo was a valuable one for a little while. Okay. Yeah, they seem very collector-oriented and not very toy-oriented. What is the most valuable toy, other than Beanie Babies, which I know we can all agree are never going down in value? And my children's entire education is based in Beanie Baby investments. But besides that, what's valuable these days? You know, that's a good question. I'm not entirely sure. I'll tell you one that I know is particularly valuable. The Kenner Star Wars original 1980s Boba Fett figure that came out was you know released in very limited quality quantities

rather and so that one has like a a big following I don't know that it's the most expensive toy but it's certainly one that I know goes for a pretty high price tag because of the nostalgia of it being like almost the first thing that made Boba Fett popular. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Between that and the Christmas special, for sure. It makes sense because that was a character that they didn't do enough with, but it was like, so by creating an action figure,

you were doing the first fan fiction, or not the first fan fiction, but you were letting children do their own bad little fan fiction stories and it like kind of grew from there that's kind of interesting yeah it's great i also know that the transformers toys like the early ones you can fetch a high price and then now even some of the detailed new constructions of them go for quite a lot. It's like my friend got me into, like he collects Transformers toys and like anime bust figures basically and different.

And I was like, that is a whole world I had no idea about. It's wild to me, the accuracy of the detail and the money spent. But then when you see someone's full display case, it's a little bit impressive. You're like, wow, this is,

it's art. It's like collectible art, wow, this is, it's art. It's like collectible art, but in your favorite fandom. And I can dig it. I like it. I feel like Transformers' highest form is the toy. Like, they are toys that then have movie and I haven't seen the animated show, Greg, that you wrote for. So maybe I will change my tune. But like that, that it's so amazing to have a toy that can transform between robot and like vehicle. And if they like nail the making of the toy, like that's so amazing.

Anyways, great, great insight for me there. Greg, what's something you think is underrated? Underrated. Okay, here, I'm going out on a limb here. I'm going to say buttered noodles. You know, I think everybody wants to give a lot, you know, you give credit to the, you know, a marinara or a vodka sauce or a carbonara, you know. That's your go-to in your head when you're thinking about pasta. But when you just take a little bit of butter, maybe throw in some grilled onions, if you're

making like a bone-in chicken, you add a little schmaltz into that, top it with some Parmesan. That's, that's like really good food. That's like really easy to do. And isn't a whole, it's not a whole headache in the kitchen. You can just kind of like toss it together and suddenly that's a that's a top quality side dish or whole dish right so it brings out controversial labor no it is kind of controversial it's like not controversial with young children i think young children love that love a buttered noodle it really i i think of it as like too bland for me i'm a real i'm a real tomato bitch i love i mean i love tomato sauce i love tomato salsa but yeah

i i've never been into the buttered noodles because it tastes too much like noodles to me and not not enough like i don't know what i have associated pasta with which is the marinara sauce but maybe that's the key to the greatness of butter noodles is it's like this is the base of the dish right like technically you're showing up for spaghetti and you've associated it with the marinara on top but the noodle should be the highlight of that dish and then to get more into like like i've recently really gotten into ramen and i'm like reading recipes on how to make it from scratch and stuff and like there's so much technique in a noodle and create like crafting

it you know what kind of flour what kind of grind on that flour how long are you mixing it at what temperature that i think if you get a quality noodle and you're just tasting it with just a little bit of butter, you're really putting that noodle like on a pedestal and asking people to taste just that noodle. And I can see where that would be like, you know, this is the highlight. Like really experience and enjoy this part of the dish that typically you're just trying to get through. Okay, I see it. Are you putting high quality noodle into a buttered noodle dish?

No, I'm saying you get some egg noodles and then you just get some grilled onions. You mix that in and suddenly parmesan on top and you've got something more than just a buttered noodle, I think. Okay, all right. I think, yeah, all right. But controversial, we'll be hearing from our listeners maybe more than any guest we've ever had.

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Owens executive director of groundwork Collaborative, which is dedicated to advancing progressive economic ideas, actually did the work of going and listening to earnings calls, which if you're not familiar, like every public company has to every quarter, you know, reveal their information to investors. And then they have a call where people can then ask them questions. And this is where you're going to get some honesty, right? Because, you know, people want to know what's really going on, what's driving the numbers they're seeing and whether they should stay invested, all that, all that fun stuff. they're seeing and whether they should stay invested, all that fun stuff. And so she looked at these and she was like, oh, they just decided to charge more money and in exchange got record profits. They're making more money than they've ever made at this time when inflation is supposed to be out of control. So some examples, she pulled the company 3M, which produces N95 masks and other things,

crowed on its earnings call that the team has done a marvelous job in driving price. Price has gone up from 0.1% to 1.4% to 2.6%. We see that to be a tailwind. I'm going to just stop. I'm going to look elsewhere for my double-sided sticky tape mounting hooks or something. Right? Come on. I'm going to Scotch.

3M. Yeah. I'm sure they own them, too. That's the other problem is that there's so much consolidation that you can do this. If you are just a massively powerful major corporation in a industry, you can just be like, all right, we're going to raise the prices and that will either, you know, put pressure on our competitors to raise the prices so they can keep up with our record breaking profits or the, you know, the company will try and undercut us. But somehow that's not happening. We don't know why. Weird. Tyson, one of the big four meat

monopolies that Biden is targeting for fix price fixing, which is supposed to be illegal. I'm pretty sure. But I not not a huge scandal for some reason, because it's a massive corporation doing the robbing at a high level of people. And so nobody, like the American media and just like public is not, it feels incapable of having the story of meat monopolies price fixing become like a craze. Like it just seems like the sort of thing that the media will ignore the shit out of because they it's just like they're they don't do that. They don't give a fuck. But Tyson has us in such a chokehold.

fuck like but tyson has us in such a chokehold like if you think about if you're on a low income like tyson's probably the most affordable meat product that you can buy and it's every goddamn where like including like i think mcdonald's uses tyson chicken as well like there's it's everywhere it's impossible to escape on top of that tyson has a lot of nerve like price gouging us when the way it treats its workers has been on blast for so long yeah just completely inhospitable conditions long hours horrible egregious like wounds and accidents happening on site that it's it does seem like they're kind of moving in plain sight and are just kind of gangsters about it not to give them any kind of flair but they're just like you just have to deal with this you're gonna keep paying us right this product so just effing deal with it i mean that's the that seems

to be the entire model though with every one of these is that they are know, after the 2008 financial crisis, like when the banking sector fucked up as bad as a sector can and got out of it with like still getting their annual bonuses while people were like being driven into like not having homes. Like I they are not dumb. They paid attention to that. And now like, it's just, it really feels like that part of the civilization is just out of control and knows that they like, don't, don't have to do shit that they don't want to do. And so in the case of Tyson, they saw their profits nearly double after price hikes of 32% on beef and 20% on chicken, which the CEO attributed to the, quote, continued resilience of our multi-protein portfolio. That's crazy. It is.

But it's also like if you step back. So if we look at the corporateness of it all or like these giant corporate monsters making so much money and devaluing human life. And it's awful. If we look at the human condition of it, the idea that there are individual people actively engaged in doing this, right? I think there's something about like the corporate structure that just has to be dismantled from the outside, because all they're doing is their job, right? It's such tunnel vision. Like my job is to figure out how much we can make off this product. And if we can make more, then I'm rewarded for that. And I keep my family and money and we're good. And because these companies are so large and so disconnected from, especially the higher up you go, the more you're

disconnected from the people at the bottom of your company, the less like actively engaged you are in the pain that's being caused. And I think having that emotional distance allows you to keep like chugging along in this, in this way that allows you to abuse so many people. And I think like, I've started to see it yes in my own grocery bill, but also in like watching people tweet out like previous grocery bills to their current grocery bills has been like a little bit horrific you know yeah yeah yeah especially you

see like single moms being like i'm not buying anything else there's no additional things being purchased and i'm paying 50 more a week to feed my children that's money out of rent or prescription pills or whatever it happens to be that they need that week. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what gets to them to make them change that structure. Yeah. It makes you look at the inflation that we're all seeing and going like how much of this is inflation? How much of this is based on, you know, the problems going on with, you know, covid and, you know, know that whole thing and how much of it is just some greedy ceo dragons sitting at the top hoarding the money and and and that seems to

be what's happening here yeah ever since that one dude at the prescription pill guy got busted for raising prices like i don't know 112 or whatever he decided to do i feel like they've gotten craftier like they're really you, as you just read, Jack, they're like, oh, like that 1.4 to two and a half percent. That's really great for us. And we'll just if we keep doing it and that, you know, the frog in the boiling water style, then maybe no one will notice. Or if they do notice, it'll be too little for them to care. But they're no more greedy than CEOs from past decades. They, they're sure. Like they've been trying to do this sort of thing for years, for centuries. They tried to overthrow FDR.

They like got a American general to like be part of what was called the business plot, tried to overthrow FDR and it didn't work out. But like, that's the sort of like they just want as much money as they can possibly get, because that is sort of a corporation working in its normal form like that. That's what they're built to do. But the system has not provided the pushback in any real way for decades now. And yeah, they're they've realized like, oh, and we can get away with just lying in the mainstream media or because the mainstream media are all owned by massive corporations like they just nobody's going to say shit. We can just do like at a time when more people are in a desperate

situation than, you know, in the last hundred years, they've been price gouging because Americans got like a two thousand dollar check like one time. They're like, well, we're going to just soak that money up real quick. But you also saw families consolidating, you know, whether that meant we're all going to go live under the same roof or, you know, or we're giving up our second homes and like, whatever it was leaving our apartments in New York to go back to our familial homes. I think that there was a lot more for the first time Americans had like a little bit of like a slush fund or,

or at least a little bit more than they had to spend before. It doesn't surprise me that they had to spend before. It doesn't surprise me that they took advantage of that. And it especially doesn't surprise me when we consider that these people are no longer and by these people, I mean like government officials no longer need to work for the individuals that vote for them. They just need to work for the corporations that are paying them enough money to create larger like visual campaigns. You know, can I say the right things to get my side whether you're

republican or democrat to to acknowledge me and then do i have enough money to outdo commercials and is my marketing team better than yours like there's no they don't have to serve us directly and while i think that there are definitely some individuals you know both in congress and in senate who have their their communities at heart and are trying to make, you know, quality changes. I also think that the dollar is so insurmountable. I just don't know what people will care over. You know, you need this dollar to survive and having more dollars means you're more likely to survive. I just don't know how we, you know, as a country, as a community get over that, you know, or try to move past it or try to

change that. Our money means everything to us. It's the only way we're going to make it. Speaking as someone who used to have no money at all, it's just, I think it's going to have to implode first. I think it's going to have to implode because I don't see anyone giving that up. Yeah. And I mean, like Biden has put the blame for inflation like he has said the things that we're saying now and it's been ignored. It's been, you know, explained's like many examples of this, by the way. Johnson & Johnson talked about raising prices despite raking in billions from the COVID vaccine. And their CEO specifically, like, talked about their model being address suffering and death. And that's why J&J's optimism and opportunity for its future is so bright. So it's... Woo's that's dark yeah people are dying so we've got a very bright future especially if you can just charge whatever the

fuck you want and nobody's gonna get mad like that it's not truly it's not great i was at the dollar king the other day everything was a dollar 51 yeah We got to take down the dollar king at the top. Yeah, that's right. That's where it all boils down to. Yeah. But the mainstream media is willing to blame the stimulus being too much, supply disruption. The supply chain problems, there were definitely temporary supply chain problems. I think the cars, you're still seeing it like I have friends who are trying to buy cars and like that industry is still having major supply issues. But for the most part, like there wasn't a significant period of time where like grocery shelves were empty or anything like that to act like that is the reason that they had to raise prices.

I mean, like even regardless of that, the fact that they're making record profits at this time that we're all supposed to be kind of struggling and scrapping is all you need to know, really. Like it's right. Anyways. So no answers here, but it is very frustrating. Sorry, listeners. We thought we could solve it here, but it is very frustrating. Sorry, listeners. We thought we could solve it today, but it's a little beyond us. I had a feeling. I thought we had this one.

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And we're back. And okay, so something I had always suspected based on many years of going out to dinner on Valentine's Day and the food and service and every aspect of it being bad was confirmed for me by Gordon Ramsay. So Gordon Ramsay says, Valentine's Day is the worst. He said this like, you know, not at Valentine's Day. It wasn't an interview about Valentine's Day. It was just him being like, oh, you want to know the worst day? Well, that, of course, is Valentine's Day. It's the worst day of the year to go out. Busy kitchens with tons of diners means you don't get the true feeling of the restaurant. And then I think unnecessary adds this part. You should be cooking on Valentine's. Oh, yeah. Maybe you should be

cooking, Gordon. That's the height of romance to Gordon Ramsay. Have you ever seen his solo cooking show where he's just showing you how to cook basic dishes in a space that looks like his home? He loves that. He's like, look at this fold in this egg. It's beautiful. You have to love it.

He's just so passionate about it. I think that's his expression. That's his love language, Jack. Let me just make passionate about it. And I think that's in the kitchen with that sort of thing. My wife ends up being annoyed because it takes so long. And we eat like by the time we're eating, it's not Valentine's Day anymore. It's like two in the morning. Oh, no. But according to the National Restaurant Association, Ramsey is right that this is the busiest day for restaurants.

25% of the American population dines out on Valentine's Day. That's a lot. That's a lot. I would have thought. If you, as long as you're not putting pressure on the meal and the experience to be anything but entertaining, like go for it, but don't, don't expect it to be a nice experience other than like maybe a fun people watching experience. Yeah, because there is this pressure on Valentine's Day, especially if you don't make a reservation.

I'm sure you're you're kind of screwed over. But like, you know, waiting around in the restaurant and there's like there's it's just so crowded and there are people there and and it's louder than usual. And like, I don't want to be around that. I got to agree with Gordo here. I'm happy to put on an apron and grill up something nice just a couple days in advance by something I normally wouldn't buy. And instead of paying the $60 price tag on a filet mignon, I spent like 15, 20 bucks on two of them. And then I could grill them up myself saute some asparagus bing bang boom

valentine's day dinner not if that's a tyson stick by the way uh it's not gonna be 15 anymore it's gonna be 60 if you're lucky they just heard you say that and they were like crank it up actually gonna be much more yeah. I think also you can avoid being around other people, which to me is way more romantic. Waiting in line, not romantic. Dealing with annoyed waiters, no romance there. Having to watch like 80 people propose while you're like just trying to chill. I'm tired of clapping for you people. It's like great.

Another one. So good. Yeah. And the food's definitely going to be subpar. Yeah. You're going to sacrifice speed for art in the kitchen. Stay home. Yeah.

Stay home. Compare that with putting on an apron and nothing else. What's more romantic? Greg gets it. Yeah. So on the people watching front, my favorite Valentine's Day meal that we ever had, I got reservations well in advance, took my wife to a fancy restaurant on Valentine's Day out here in L.A. and got a front row view of Kevin Nealon and his wife on a date together, dressed very nicely with Adam Sandler tagging along. And he was in a hockey jersey. For some reason, he was just like, yeah, I'll come too. Oh, now third wheel on Valentine's Day?

On Valentine's Day. As a perpetually single lass. I'm not vibing with it. I'm sure he was like. He's also married with kids. And you just see him like. What was happening that day? I don't know. He's like, oh kids. And you just see him like. What was happening that day? I don't know.

He's like, oh, shit, I forgot. I would say maybe his gift was to his wife to be like, listen, you can have a little space for me today. Yeah. You just here's some alone time. The kids have a babysitter. I'll be out. You just relax, babe. That's romantic.

But so speaking of people watching and the view when you are eating a restaurant, the takeout has a breakdown of whether it's weird to sit side by side on a date rather than across from one another. I am of the opinion that it is weird. And also, who gives a shit? Like, I'm I'm into it. Those are those are both good takes. It is strange for like who really cares. I guess there's this weird, you know, feeling of if there's an empty side of the table like that doesn't that doesn't work. There's something missing there.

Right. Yeah. It's not even. And then what if what if someone you you know, you don't want to show up shows up and pulls up a chair because they've got a whole side of the table. Oh, yeah. You need to get the chairs out of there. Right. Yes.

So it looks like you're at a like you're a married couple at a wedding, you know, like you're the couple that's getting married. Everyone's there to watch you. Yeah. And you're there to watch them in turn. there to watch you yeah yeah and you're there to watch them in turn the problem with a side by side isn't so much for me the optics but when a couple is too feeling themselves you know what i mean go home go don't be like making out and all touchy under the table no this is not the time or place we were in public people are trying to to eat. There's food literally everywhere. That's to me the problem.

Like when you're practically in each other's laps and like, oh, we're feeding. It's just, it's obnoxious. I'm not trying to kill your vibe. I'm just saying if you could finish dinner, maybe take dessert home and continue that atmosphere and mode there, but leave it out of the public domain.

We don't need it. Yeah. I'm strictly in it for the people watching, but my wife and I both like to be the one facing out so you can see what's happening in the restaurant. Or she likes to do the people watching. And I just always want to make sure if a hitman comes in the door, they don't I do. Either one. The only thing don't do it if it's one of those like clearly made for sitting across from one another thing where you like have to pour all your food in a single bowl. But I say if you're like in a booth or something that could be two people sitting side by side, go with God. You know, that makes sense for sure. All right. Let's talk movies.

The diehard conversation around Christmas movies gets shit on a lot. go with God, you know? That makes sense. For sure. Alright, let's talk movies. The Die Hard conversation around Christmas movies gets shit on a lot, but I do like watching Die Hard at Christmas. Also, the Lethal Weapons, underrated Christmassy movies. There's no romance plot at the heart of Lethal Weapon? Right. Boo!

There's a bromance. There is. Those are Christmas There's a bromance. There is. Yeah. But I. Those are Christmas movies. Yes. I'm saying what is the equivalent to, you know, Die Hard is a Christmas movie for Valentine's Day. It doesn't need to be about Valentine's Day. But what are like some movies to watch on a date or in around a significant other they'll like get you in that sort of romantic my mind space i guess okay you want to go yeah okay i'll throw one out there

what about little shop of horrors oh pretty good one got some romantic songs suddenly see more but you know it's still got some excessive comic violence and and uh you know you're still feeding people to a giant plant so you got that side of it but there's still the romantic between audrey and seymour yeah also a musical ability yeah yes yes i was gonna say it's got upbeat like 60s pop tunes in it. Some of your greatest late 80s, early 90s comedic performers in there. It's class act all the way. That is an excellent Valentine's Day selection. Great choice.

Joelle, hit me. As I've stated before, I'm a perpetually single lass. And so these are a single person's idea of romantic movies. My dream is to host a double feature of phantom thread and the lobster it is because i think they're hyper romantic movies but nobody understand well not nobody but a lot of people don't understand them like a lot of people walked out of phantom thread being like what the fuck like that's a deeply deranged couple no that is a couple who have found each other okay those two people live in a world of billions and found each other and they

enjoy the weird ass shit they do to each other that's love so romantic i love the lobster because listen the world is constantly trying to force relationships on us it's so aggressive it's like you're alone and you'll die alone and there'll be no children to take care of you. How awful for you. I really like a movie that challenges what if it's terrible to be in a relationship? What if it's just not fun for me? What if it's awful? Do I still have to do this? Do I still have to harm myself in order to try to be the person to please other people? Again, deeply romantic. Not a couple romantic, but that self-love romance really asking yourself these questions do i even want to be in a relationship in the first place you should be have a love relationship with yourself i firmly believe that and lobster invites you to do that so yeah i think

go for the weird romances uh really invest in the idea of what does it mean to be in a relationship and i think if you have found a solid partner and you guys really love each other you guys will be able to cackle at your friends who are not in happy romances and be like who does this remind you of boo exactly exactly wild the lobster so the lobster the premise is that what now i forget i forget the premise of the lobster but i remember it's very high concept right yeah yes okay so yes it's very high concept, right? Yes. Okay. So yes, it's very high concept, but I don't think it's hard for people to understand. So it's, here's what happens.

Single couples get to, or single couples, look at me. Oh God. Okay. Single individuals go to this agency and they're like, hey, I want to find a partner. They're like, we have a great success rate. We have that because if you do not fall in love with the person we pick for you after a week, we're going to turn you into an animal. It can be an animal of your choosing. Don't stress.

You want to be a dog? Great. You want to be a lobster? Fine. Your main guy, he wants to be a lobster because lobsters, they hold claws with the people they love and it's very sweet or whatever. And they live forever, right? They live a long time. Yeah.

A lot of them live forever, but they do live for a long time. Yeah, yeah. Unless we eat them on Valentine's Day. Right. By the way, great choice. Great option, folks out there. Delicious dinner. All those lovers.

Yeah. Boil a lobster alive and hear it scream. Boil two of them alive so they're with their loved one. Yeah, while they're holding hands. Romantic homicide. But yeah, and so then as the the movie progresses he has to you know just am i going to conform and commit to this woman who is cruel beyond measure a spoiler alert from a movie from like 2016 or whatever but uh she her his brother goes to the program becomes a dog

she kicks him to death so that he can prove that he loves her the most super just awful and then he has to make some decisions you know i'm going to stay here and and be with this person am i going to run away with this woman i think i'm in love with but i'm still very confused about to figure it out secret society in the woods right that tries to like get out of there it's a bunch of people who tried to run away basically and now they're out in the woods trying not to be turned into animals but still really desperately seeking love oh man it really laughs at the idea that you have to be in a relationship and i found find it a very cathartic watch phantom thread is just it's so good so funny like an underrated funny movie and very gorgeous just gorgeously shot it's a wonderful rom-com that it's not trying to be but just happens to fall into that category Yes! Not very horny at all, but it's just a very silly comedy that we saw together, not even like early in our relationship, but I was surprised by how much she laughed at it, too.

And I was just like, oh, wow, we really are the same person. This is great. And yeah, there's also this beautiful sex scene featuring Bradley Cooper, I think. Amazing. Something for everybody. Yeah, yeah. So, anyways, any other movies we want to call out? I think you could also watch any Miyazaki movie, to me, is a little bit of romance.

Howl's Moving Castle is my favorite Miyazaki movie. Timeless, epic romance in there but i mean even if you wanted to do something along of like my neighbor totoro which is much less of a romance movie but so much about love and heart yeah oh gosh just get swept up in the beauty of the animation and then the sweet and simplicity of his tales is really delightful. Is it weird to be like movies like Moonrise Kingdom and stuff like that where it's like about children's romance? But there's like definitely something sweet about that. I don't think so. I think you should totally be able to watch his movies. There's a philosophy that you're always the person you were

even today you're still that child inside so why not you know engage your inner child with the person you want to spend the rest of your life with come on now yeah i mean you're not talking about like lowly romantic that would be a right quite that would be very weird yeah an actual conversation after that. What? WALL-E, another animated classic. Oh, that's a great one. Pretty cute and romantic. One of my favorite movies. Any old movie.

Like The Shop Around the Corner. I mean, listen, we said not cliches, but when Harry Met Sally. It's a top movie, guys. It's my favorite fall movie I like watching it in September because it's got those great New York leaf changing scenes where they're just walking through the park and everything is orange and golden

but you can literally watch it anytime and why not pop it in on Valentine's Day and get all those old couple stories realize that your love story is unique and it's good no matter what it is perfect I'll throw a Bride of Frankenstein They'll realize that your love story is unique and it's good no matter what it is. Yeah. Perfect. I'll throw a Bride of Frankenstein. I'm not sure she's super receptive to him now that I'm thinking about it.

But there's a parallel to Valentine's Day. You could go. Oh, crap. What's Mel's version? Young Frankenstein. There you go. Poppin' Young Frankenstein. Excellent rom-com. Excellent. There you go.

I need to watch that, actually. I never watched that. Oh, it's great. Jack! Jack! You've never seen Young Frankenstein? Joelle, I have watched the movie Jaws 2,000 times. It didn't leave a lot of time for other movies.

But yeah, I need to watch it. It it is unacceptable i'm actually jealous of you i'm actually jealous that's what i'm watching this valentine's day with my wife it's a good one perfect also there's this uh movie that i think influenced shop around the corner a lot called you've got mail if people want to uh check that one out isn't that isn't you've got mail based on shop around the corner probably the other way around but yeah yeah no no wait yeah yeah okay yeah yeah okay here we are we're together i got it what is language uh all right such a pleasure having you yeah thanks for having me really uh wonderful where can people find you, follow you, and join in your campaign to get people paid a fair wage? Sure, yeah. You can follow me on Twitter at It's Greg Hahn, and you should totally

follow the Tag Writers Twitter account as well as the Animation Guild Twitter account, and follow the hashtags, hashtag New Deal for Animation and hashtag PayAnimationWriters. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media that you've been enjoying? Sure. Well, you know, while we're on it, I will share this one in particular.

Joey Clift, I believe he's a friend of the show. He helped put together a video campaign with, you know, tons of animation workers and other really talented people speaking out. It features Adam Conover, Phil Lord, Raphael Bob Waxberg, Mara Wilson, LA Council member Nithya Raman, tons of other talented people all saying, hey, pay attention. Let's get a new deal for animation and let's pay animation writers. So that is on the Tag Writers Twitter account. You should totally check it out. Nice.

Nithya Raman was the city council representative for my neighborhood. And then they, you know, we've interviewed her here on the show. A great leader with very progressive ideals. And they were like, we're going to redistrict that. She can't have that much power. And like when nobody was looking, changed her district. So real fuck shit in local L.A. politics. Joelle, such a pleasure having you today.

And these past two weeks, truly all-star performance. One of the, one of the greats. Where can people find you? Follow you. Yeah. Uh, thanks for having me.

This was fun. I love you all. You're so funny on Twitter. First of all, you can find me. I'm Joel, but he, you know,

me, uh, J O E L L E M O N I Q E. I usually do that better, but that's fine. That was perfect. Tweets. I like, thank you, Jack.

At Dr. Dan Schumacher on Twitter posted a screenshot of North Carolina's online death certificate request. In there it says the person listed on the death certificate is you can check a box, myself or someone else. And Dr. Schumacher

says I have a few logistical questions at gabby dvj tweeted eavesdropping in the west village everything i wrote failed because it was too sophisticated and i can relate random person in the west village no one gets me far too sophisticated and finally from reductress gross successful interview results in full-time job and yeah yeah like eavesdropping on conversations in la are uh way way different a lot by the cafe where all the writers write and just enjoy yeah yeah yeah and then the occasional uh life coach comes in and has interesting things to say. Okay. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

Some tweets I've been enjoying. Robin Lopez, NBA player, tweeted, Salvador Dali died in 1989. It's weird to think that he may have seen the movie Predator. What? Great work, Robin. And then Osric the Flop at Chris R. Yates tweeted, was reading about the silent film era and thinking about how silly the word talky is and was then forced to really consider for the first time the word movie.

And that fucked me up. Because that is where that word comes from is them just being like it's a picture that that moves it's a it's a dang movie avatar the last airbender when they broached like the 20s calls them movers and I think it might be a better word movers yeah movers I'm gonna go check out a mover yeah amazing all right well you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have

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well today I'm since I think this is the last day I'm going to do this. I'm going to leave it with a very black song, very black experience when you're listening to this. This kind of reminds me of heading up to my grandfather's barbershop to get my hair cut on Saturday mornings. My dad would always play jazz music in the car on the way up there, and it brings me back to that time. It's a song called Afro Blue. This is an Erykah Badu track featuring Fante and 9th Wonder. If you've ever heard Robert Glasper Experiment, unbelievable band. Robert Glasper is obviously the leader of

that band. Incredible musician. So check this out. It's Afro Blue, Robert Glasper, Erykah Badu, Fonte, and 9th Wonder. And you can find that in the footnotes. Amazing. Well, as Justin made reference to, Miles Gray should be back the next episode of the show that you listen to. I think it'll be on this afternoon's trending episode and then on the regular EPS going forward. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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