The Daily Zeitgeist - Insider Trending 4/10: James Cameron, DHS, Trump's Water Pressure War, (Corn) Chip Shortage, Trump Tariffs, Coachella

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

In this edition of Insider Trending, Miles and special guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan discuss James Cameron caping for AI, DHS looking through your socials, Trump's war on… water pressure?, the ...Tostitos chip recall, ICE attempting to interrogate school children?, a Trump tariff update, the Coachella exodus and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 Thursday, April 10th edition of Insider Trending. Thank you to Nick Semper-Tyrannis on the Discord for that trending title because yeah, it's a bit of light insider trading happening basically with the manipulation of the stock prices over the last couple days. We'll talk about that more on tomorrow's episode, but if you want to hear something really cool, there is a clip of Donald Trump talking about how much money literal Charles Schwab made, the guy Charles Schwab.
Starting point is 00:02:39 He's not just like a concept from all the back and forth and pausing and unpausing of the tariffs. Anyway, I'm Miles Gray. I'm joined by Paula V. Gnolin. Hello, Paula V. Hello. I don't know why it sounded like the queen. Oh yes.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Hello. Hello. That's more Mrs. Doubtfire-y. Oh yeah, that is Mrs. Doubtfire. I think it's Jon Stewart's impression of the queen from the Daily Show from when we were kids. This makes sense. But that is a very Mrs. Doubtfire-y. Oh yeah, that is Mrs. Doubtfire. I think it's Jon Stewart's impression of the queen from the Daily Show from when we were kids. This makes sense. But that is a very Mrs. Doubtfire moment.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I think he's just fucking ripping off. I think so too. Fucking Mrs. Doubtfire, rest in peace, Robin Williams. All right, so let's talk about what's trending. James Cameron is trending because he's now, I guess, defending Skynet. And I say that because if you remember James Cameron's films, like specifically the Terminator franchise,
Starting point is 00:03:29 it was basically warning people that AI could eventually lead to a nuclear apocalypse filled with Austrian naked cyborgs. And you'd think that someone with that kind of foresight for the future would not be cheerleading fucking the use of AI, especially in the filmmaking process. But now he was in the news this week because he went to bat for AI during a podcasting interview because he was defending his decision to join the
Starting point is 00:03:53 board of Stability AI, which is the company that does the text to image stable diffusion model. He's saying, I didn't do it to make quote, a shit pile of money. Although he probably is making a shit pile of money. He then argued that he wants AI to be used in visual effects to cut blockbuster costs in half without laying off half the staff. He just wants to speed up their jobs, not eliminate them. Do you remember the foresight of this man
Starting point is 00:04:21 when he said after Avatar, every movie was gonna be in 3D. Do you remember that? He was like, this is gonna be the future. Yeah, this is not I feel like he's a crypto guy. I just have it in my heart because he's like one of those guys who like, understands tech enough to be to be throwing around the jargon a lot, but not understand the impact of it. Well, and he's like, you don't understand smart contracts. He's had enough you don't understand smart contracts. He's had enough career wins too,
Starting point is 00:04:47 that gives him that sort of like pseudo confidence that he shouldn't have. Where he's like, yeah, obviously I can see the matrix. I like the whole quote is, my goal was not necessarily make a shit pile of money. Not necessarily, that's so funny. Bro, you were fucking telling on your dumb ass. Did he put that into chat GPT before you said it?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Right. I'm not necessarily, although that is something that has happened as a result. That too, he's standing next to Charles Schwab in the- It's- Oval office. Right, he's in the oval office. I just happened to make a bunch of money.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I don't know what happened. I just, I didn't necessarily set out to do some insider trading, just people in my signal thread were just talking about it. This is like funny because this is what he said about AI in terms of writing, like writing scripts when people were like, we can't have AI replace writers, quote, I just don't personally believe that a disembodied mind that's just regurgitating what other embodied minds have said about the life that they've had, about love, about lying, about fear, about mortality,
Starting point is 00:05:43 and just put it all together into a word salad and then regurgitate it. I don't believe that's ever going to have something that's going to move an audience. Okay, well now he's onto this, because the thing is with like visual effects jobs, these jobs are already quote, particularly vulnerable now thanks to AI, because people are using all kinds of AI tools.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And I mean, I guess if it does become part of this professional VFX workflow more than it is, it does eliminate like the only creative part of the job. And people just be like cleaning up the mistakes of what the AI comes up with. We've had it so backwards. How did it do the creative part and like not the hard part or the tedious part?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Because they just wanna devalue people's skills, the creative skills, you know what I mean? They want to devalue our souls because that's what goes into art. Because they're going to say like, what do you, oh, just because you can draw really good and bring my ideas to life visually, I should be giving you some kind of like,
Starting point is 00:06:36 risk, like, I don't know, proportionate amount of, what's the word I'm looking for? Payment for your work? No. We can't even find the word payment. That's? Payment for your work? No. We can't even find the word payment. Yeah, what the fuck is, what, money? No, no, no, fuck that. Fire up the machine.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Do you think James Cameron is like, okay, we can use AI, but only if we have to plug our tails into it, and then it looks like we're fucking it, but. He's probably saying that in the meetings, where he's like, Oh yeah, one question. James is please if can we limit the questions to like what the tech actually does? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:07:11 This is totally my question. Okay. So if I'm fucking the AI, oh, fuck James. If you, if it's a cyborg futuristic water animal, can I fuck it? I don't even understand the, what's the premise of your question James? I don't, I just, I'm going to get back in my submarine. So like the AI, you know, I'm like come up with like a sexy seven foot tall blue thick baddie.
Starting point is 00:07:36 You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Can I fuck it? James. It's an image. I don't, it's technically two dimensional. So you're saying I can fuck it.
Starting point is 00:07:48 All right. All right. Go on. This is gonna be the future of AI. This is the future of filmmaking. This is the future of filmmaking. Oh, God. Horny old man with too much money backs diabolical technology.
Starting point is 00:08:03 All right. What else is trending? We've got, oh my God, the DHS. They are now going to screen social media of visa applicants to look for quote, anti-Semitic activity. Red, are you from the Middle East? Are you Arab?
Starting point is 00:08:19 Probably is like the easiest way. I mean, maybe they will just across the board use it to leave anyone out. But I think that's such a, this has been one of the most confounding, not, I mean, this is on purpose, but like the way the Trump administration is like, yes, I'm gonna use the,
Starting point is 00:08:35 we're against anti-Semitism thing to just deport anybody, whoever, whenever. Could you put your hand down while we're talking about this, Elon, just for one second? So sorry. Yeah, okay. So we're gonna about this, Elon, just for one second? So sorry. Yeah, okay. So we're going to deport anti-Semites.
Starting point is 00:08:50 This is what Assistant Homeland Security Secretary said, quote, there is no room in the United States for the rest of the world's terrorist sympathizers and we are under no obligation to admit them or let them stay here unless they work in the cabinet of the White House, which in case they very much are welcome here to be in decision-making roles. More like Department of Homeland Insecurity, huh? You guys, you're not secure about anything, huh? Tell them, tell them, tell them.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah, they are just absolutely, again, they want to say they care about antisemitism, but they ignore all the actual antisemitism in front of them. But, and like this all just as part of the normalization, the practice of putting people into human and non-human categories, where if you are non-human, then you can be shipped off like you're returning an old baseball glove you bought on Amazon Prime or some shit, or rather trafficked to El Salvador to do hard labor. So yes, not, not much good news coming from there.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Good news if you like not real science because right now the president has fucking unleashed his war on maintaining water pressure. He's like, the showers, the water pressure is terrible. And you put it on and- Do you know why he's doing this? Do you remember that quote he had about flushing a toilet? How you have to keep flushing it?
Starting point is 00:10:11 And we were all like, this man is taking the hardest shit. I feel like it's the same thing. Well, he's also said stuff like, it takes me 15 minutes to get my hair wet. It's like, no, dude, you're in a state of cognitive- First you take off the wig. You're in a state of cognitive decline and you're experiencing a form of time dilation.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And I think that's probably what it is too. It's only 10 minutes in the morning, but then 15 at night. I don't know why. I don't know. I go in the shower, it's eight o'clock. I come out, it's 8.45. I put my hand on the glass. I wonder where I am or what this is all for. And then I snap out of it. Yeah, so he's basically saying Joe Biden ruined water pressure because he was,
Starting point is 00:10:51 Joe Biden was like, we need to be more efficient with how we're just letting water blast out of shit. So, you know, for the environment, shit like that, and also your own costs, so you're paying less on your water bill. But Trump again, because he is ignorant as all hell, is just, this is like one of those things. He's been insisting on the shower heads for years now.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And even like, there's a consumer reports thing, they're like, yeah, we've done a lot of studies on this. Like shower heads are designed to just optimize whatever like water flow there is. That's not gonna affect the performance of it. Like you're not gonna say like, yo, this shit blew my skin off. No. And so it follows no scientific reasoning or logic,
Starting point is 00:11:33 aside from Joe Biden shower bad. I like the idea of Trump just wandering around his house being like these appliances, they're not working. We got to revolutionize the toaster industry, quick. It's not plugged in, Mr. President. I knew that. I knew that. Houses should come with them automatically plugged in.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Right. Automatically plugged in is so fucking stupid. Oh my God. Barron, get in here. Tell me, what do I need to do with this? How do I get this thing plugged in? Oh, here, Baron, get in here. Tell me what do I need to do with this? How do I get this thing plugged in? Oh, here, dad. Baron crouches down.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Oh boy. How'd you do that? How did you do that? How'd you do that? He's like, this water, this showerhead, it's all computer, amazing. Yeah, this water is all computer. The water is even computer. The water is even computer.
Starting point is 00:12:26 The water is computer. Oh shit, the water is computer y'all. Okay, next up we've got another story, but this time it's about Tostitos. The chip recall is now apparently the highest risk classification according to the FDA or what's left of the FDA. Damn, America can't make any kind of chips, huh?
Starting point is 00:12:47 You know what I'm saying, hey? All right. Okay, all right. Yeah, right. Hey, where's my semiconductor dang at? Hey, how you doing? How you doing? Apparently, there was like, I knew there was a big Tostitos recall, but I didn't understand why. So apparently, some of the chips may accidentally include nacho cheese tortilla chips, but those chips contain undeclared milk. I don't know, what the fuck does that even mean?
Starting point is 00:13:10 You better fucking declare this milk, okay? Yo, what's up, homie? What are you? What are you, milk? Which neighborhood are you from? You from the neighborhood of milk? Where are you committing to? Where are you committing to next year,
Starting point is 00:13:21 what's next year for your freshman year? Milk? I don't know, maybe. I don't know, I'm undeclared. I'm an undeclared milk. But anyway, it could cause serious or life-threatening allergic reactions to those with an allergy or severe sensitivity to milk, the FDA said in a press release. I'm surprised. Like, y'all, this is the other part of like the whole MahaRFK thing. He wants those people who are even being like, hey, this thing might fucking kill somebody to just go away. And just so y'all know, the Tostitos are fucking people up right now. So let's let's extrapolate this out of years. They came for the Tostitos and I said nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yep. And then they came for the McDonald's. I said nothing. But then they came for our blood pressure medications and we all- We were dead. We were dead. We were dead.
Starting point is 00:14:09 That's why it didn't happen. There were no SSRIs, there were nothing. It was just a real bad time out here. If I don't get my antidepressant medication, this is gonna hurt you guys. Do they not understand that a bunch of mentally ill people I know. Like out in these streets,
Starting point is 00:14:26 we're containing ourselves for you, okay? This is for your health. I'm taking the antidepressants for you, my guy. Yeah, it's like part of it, I know like they have all this magical thinking around how like it's like, no, it actually can be cured all these other ways. Like we have such an emphasis on X, Y, or Z medications.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Give them a gun. Yeah, really not gaming this out. What happens when people don't have access to the medications they need? Like, come on now. Yeah, Brian, the editor is like, okay, well then legalize psilocybin and MDMA. Where's that at?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Which I know I think he's kind of alluded to, but not like in a sense that it's gonna be like, make all the dead heads happy. That's gonna be the nacho cheese flavor and Putting a fucking still a side blint Simon. Yeah conspiracy theory. There's my in the Tostitos Dude, those are called conspiracy theories. I like yeah, okay, you know, you could just you know, yeah good news network or whatever Yeah, right. Exactly. Like good conspiracy theories. Hey, you know, like, when every shipment of Tostitos,
Starting point is 00:15:28 there's one special bag, it's dusted with psilocybin. Be careful though. Like three is enough, three is enough. Four, it's bye-bye, it's adios. Okay, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about some other shit after this. Hey kids, it's me, Kevin Smith. And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith. shit after this. Hey kids, it's me Kevin Smith. And it's me Harley Quinn Smith. That's my daughter, man, who my wife has always said is just a beardless, d***less version of me. And that's the name of our podcast, Beardless D***less Me. I'm the old one. I'm the young one. And every week we try to make
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Starting point is 00:19:53 to the parents said. A similar message was shared with the community of Russell Elementary School. These are in South LA. I'm assuming this is like ICE related nonsense, but sending- You think it was like federal agents dressed like Steve Buscemi in that meme where he's like, hey kids. Hey fellow kids. Hello fellow kids. Hey fellow undocumenteds.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Like what are you fucking saying? This whole thing, just so disgusting. And every clip I see of these fucking fake ass ICE agents acting tough, like they're always the most shook looking people who are like, oh, I'm just doing my job, man. I'm just doing my job. Got signed up to brutalize people. It's kind of the gig here.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Pretty nuts how like they're willing to like act up in a school as long as there's not a shooter in it. You know, she had them. Right. Yeah, then you pull up. Then yeah. Another thing that's come out. So with the tariffs flipping and a flopping and shit right now, big questions are being
Starting point is 00:20:48 asked about, well, what's even happened? We still don't know if for sure this has actually been enacted legally on paper that the tariffs are paused. We still haven't heard from that or if they actually still are in effect. Either way, the tariff rates for China are around 125, 145, I think now, percent. These are like numbers that don't even make sense anymore. So the CEO of Amazon, like the company Amazon, not Jeff Bezos, this guy Andy Jassy, he was asked about like, oh, what's this going to mean for costs?
Starting point is 00:21:23 And he was like, he quote, guesses that the sellers will be passing tariff costs onto consumers in like the most non-committal ways. Like, I mean, I guess they'll pass it on to consumers. So yeah, none of this is actually of a benefit to anyone. This is the ultimate DoorDash fee. Like when you order DoorD dash and you're like,
Starting point is 00:21:45 what the fuck, this thing costs $7. I'm paying like $13 as like nearly double, that's over a hundred percent. That and it's, I'm paying, the tip doesn't even go properly to the driver. Like it's, and the menu is like, this is the ultimate, we're door dashing from China right now. And we're paying crazy amounts of fees.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I think for people, like when you see shit like this and knowing the people that stand to benefit from all the chaos and the damage it does to small business, like this should be an even larger like call to people to really put their money into like smaller businesses when you can, then just going to the same fucking people that give their, a share of their profits
Starting point is 00:22:24 to Donald Trump to kiss the fucking ring but yeah this is just gonna be content the prices are just gonna go up across the board no matter what because one fucking guy had a boner for tariffs for 40 fucking years and now he wants to be William McKinley part two and finally it is Thursday April 10th in Los Angeles, which means everyone is leaving LA to go to Coachella, usually. Now I don't know how sold out Coachella is,
Starting point is 00:22:51 but I'm seeing a lot of memes about everybody going to Coachella this year, but I have a feeling this, I don't even know. Like, I feel like Coachella is, is, is died? We need to tariff Coachella. Oh, good point. I'm kidding. Good point. I'm kidding, maybe.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah. Maybe. I mean, there's some good acts that go out there, but I feel like the festival itself has completely fallen away. I am so glad that I had my music festival burning man phase like 10, 15 years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like back when I had the physical energy to do it. And it also was like not as bad as it is now.
Starting point is 00:23:31 2007 to 2012 was like my heyday for going to like festivals. Like whether it was Coachella or outside lands. Yeah, I did outside lands. I'm glad I did it. I had a great time. I don't feel like I would have as much fun now. Yeah, I feel like I. I'm glad I did it. I had a great time. I don't feel like I would have as much fun now. Yeah, I feel like I'd have, every time I've gone to Outside Lands,
Starting point is 00:23:49 that's felt more my vibe because it's more like Bay Area, chill people. The Golden Gate Park is just really beautiful. It's not dusty and shit. I don't think people are in it for the pictures as much too. I think they're slightly more more for them. No, they want to enjoy the music. Yeah. I mean, I think young people always, you know, take their video, take their little videos of what's going on. But less. Yeah. I just like to sit.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I like to go to the bathroom quickly. It's look, this is part of getting more mature. But then also it's like then but the other thing is these promoters know that like older festival goers are like They'll pay more to piss in a toilet like without waiting 17 minutes at a time So we should add that as like a new tier of ticket we can charge people for Yeah, we got to add the ticket where they don't pass out. We got to add that one where they're hydrated We give them water free water Shit. All right. Well, free water. Yeah. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:24:45 All right, well, those are the stories that are trending today. We will be back tomorrow with a brand new episode. Polly V, thank you for joining me today. Oh my gosh, thank you so much. We will see y'all tomorrow. Take care, don't do nothing about white supremacy and obviously take care of yourselves
Starting point is 00:24:58 and do all the good health stuff you can. Be healthy, drink water. Bye bye, we love you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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