The Daily Zeitgeist - Iran Deal Or No Deal, Met Gala Was A Blast-phemy 5.8.18

Episode Date: May 8, 2018

In episode 143, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Dani Fernandez to discuss the Hawaii volcano eruption, the Met Gala looks, Menghazi with Eric Schneiderman, Melania Trump copying Michelle Obama yet again, the NRA hiring Oliver North as their president, plus producer Anna joins to discuss the Iran Nuclear Deal and what can happen now that Trump has pulled out, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That is also on this channel If you haven't heard of it It's also on this network Which you should check out After you listen to this After you listen to this What's it about Danny? It is a deep dive

Into all things nerdy Deep dive You have to take a drink Deep dive Yeah We cover the past Present and future Of different fandoms and subcultures

and tech and nerddom Like conventions? Yeah, like conventions Our cosplay episode actually was featured in AV Club Yeah, it was The one that dropped today is on Twitch So if you've ever wondered about Twitch or are interested in what that world is

how to get partnered Ify and I are very familiar with Twitch I've heard about this Twitch. This Twitch? Is that like on Instagram with the influencers? No, you know, when you combine Adderall and Red Bull at the same time. Oh, shit. That type of Twitch.

Anyways, yeah, so that was our episode today. Yeah, whether you're an old person who calls Twitch Switch like I did last week or if you are a young person, it's interesting. It's like, it will bring you in if you don't know about it, and it'll also entertain you if you do already know about it.

Yeah. It's a great show. Dani, what is something from your search history that is revealing that? My search history. Who you are.

Donald Glover girlfriend. Do you remember the last time I was here? It was like Marvel, Netflix, girlfriend, like married. Because you're on at Mr. Luke Cage last time. Yeah, well, Luke Cage and Johnny B, John Bernthal, who is married with three kids. I keep track of all celebrities. But yeah, I didn't know that he... Isn't there like a website where...

Oh, I'm sure. Shouldn't there just be a website that has like a face? Probably, absolutely. And if they're available, there's a green circle. And if not, just a red X. My sock puppet account. Yeah, like a stock market or something. You know, I saw him in – well, actually, I wasn't the only one.

It was like kind of trending-ish on – because him and his girlfriend were seen with his child. I don't know. He was a dad. He has two kids. So he has a new baby that was born, I think, in January. And then he has – I know too much about this man's life. This is sad. I am wearing this Lando shirt. You see this?

Why do you have merch for a film that's not out yet and it's already been mashed up with another franchise? It's the old Adam West Batman logo but with Donald. It's like third wave Lando gear that she's rocking. Oh, y'all don't have this? It's vintage. He already has holes.

This is my vintage Lando. That's like, oh, you don't have this? It's vintage. The movie ain't even out. He already has holes. Yeah. This is my vintage Lando. That's how you're about this life, though. I am. So yeah, that was, I didn't know he was a dad, and I think that's really cool. The reason I kind of suspected was because the last album, it was like me and your mama and stuff, and I knew that that was born out of him becoming a father, but I didn't know he had a second child. Congratulations.

See, and he won't know because he's not messy trying to be on the tabloids. That's true. We just sped past what is a billion dollar idea of like a stock X or a stock ticker that is just about celebrities. Celebrities, available or not? Available. And like also you have like,

if you pay for the account, you can find out if they are like- Alerts? Yeah, if they fuck around. Oh, okay. Yeah, some like next level like blind item shit. Okay, daddy, you want to make a mess in here like that? I'm just saying, it could be

interesting. What do you mean other shit? So you're saying you would ask people to stalk these people and be like, oh, I think he's fucking up right now. In an open relationship. Just monitor all the like Bumble and shit like that or the celebrity equivalent. Maybe you should holler at Black Cube. Yeah.

This is going to be so relevant for my next thing. Yeah. All right. Well, let's get into it then. What do you think is overrated? Raya. I finally, Raya is a dating app for famous people. Yeah, so explain further because I know like in LA, a lot of people know about Raya.

Yeah. So it's essentially like you have to be, you know, a person of note or a public figure. They like look at your Instagram. You have to like be, have to be, you know, a person of note or a public figure. They, like, look at your Instagram. You have to, like, be, have someone vouch for you, essentially. Who's on the app, right? I think so, yeah. It's like the Soho House of dating apps where you have to get accepted. Yeah, and it feels gross.

But anyways, I made it. Okay, nice, nice. And once I got it, you know, one, you cannot screenshot. So I was trying to screenshot my bio to show people that I was on it. On bio, nice. And once I got it, you know, one, you cannot screenshot. So I was trying to screenshot my bio to show people that I was on it. On Raya, yeah. And it was immediately like, this is your warning. Like, we know that you're new. It was like the second I took the screenshot.

Damn. Because there are famous people on there. So they don't want you. I ran into several. They never heard of this? Taking two phones? Taking pictures with the other phone? I know, seriously.

When people were fucking, like, when Snapchat came out, they're like, you know, you can't do that on my phone. But it's not, I mean, aside from the people, aside from the, like, famous people, yeah, that are on it and stuff that I've run across, I do have six matches now, so. Nice. Anybody, like, you had heard of prior to getting on Ryan? The guys that I matched with, not, I don't think so. Okay.

Maybe. But they're all, like, in the industry or whatever. Right, right. But it's kind of, y'all, you're not missing out. I mean, it's the same. How are you assuming that we're not on Raya? Yeah. No, I mean like the general public.

And also, it's so weird how they decide, because some of my friends who have way more followers than me like haven't gotten in, so it's weird how they decide who gets in and who doesn't. It is weird. It's gross. Hashtag humble brag. It's so weird.

It makes sense, though. As a thing, I remember when someone first described it, I'm like, that almost seems like, at first it seems cool. I get if you're really famous, maybe you just want people that kind of understand culturally. Not that there's a culture of being an elite, aloof person who doesn't like to interact with the poors, but you may have more common ground. But I feel like once you get in there, there's probably like equally just shitheaded egomaniacal people who are like i'm on raya and i will just conduct my life in a certain way it feels so it still feels

weird for me to like judge someone by their pictures and like say yes right i just grow i haven't really been on dating apps so my is this your first foray into dating yeah kind of yeah yeah but what I was gonna say I meet people on Twitter that's so sad but you get to like see I meet other writers and stuff so I've dated other writers that like I've followed them for a year or two I can see that they're you know slightly normal and or broken inside like I am and and funny and so and respected in the community and so that's kind of the how've met people. I found love in an awful place. So shout out to anybody who's listening right now. Shoot your shot.

You never know. But also you need to, look, you might need a minimum follower count. No, it's not that. It's more just like people who understand my life and like also hustling and maybe don't want kids and settling down and like I just have a different lifestyle.

And like my ex and I who were together for three years, I feel like we made it three years because we were both so focused on our careers as opposed to, I don't know. Right, right. By the way, that thing that I just invented, the website that tells you about men, I think I just reinvented the shitty men list

that those women had made. Well, I mean, we're not talking about men. I think I just reinvented the shitty men list that those women had made. Well, I mean, we're not talking about like that. It's just merely just to let people know if their fantasies are feasible. You know what I mean? Like, oh, they're single

so I can continue to pretend. And it can be, it's for everybody. Yeah. Right, right. All right, okay. What is something you think is underrated?

I don't know if I've talked about this yet, but have y'all watched Schitt's Creek? No, I've... It's so good. Is it really? Yes.

Listen, Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara. So I originally got into it. I was super sick, came down with the flu, and they were promoting it on Netflix. I'm like, I'm not going to watch this show. I saw billboards of it everywhere. It was just totally in my face. It's on Pop TV, so that's where it airs every week. Oh see that

that's another thing. It's like a it's a network it's a channel. Yeah it's a channel. Pop TV is a channel. See I'm such a cord cutter I'm like

there's a new channel. But right so a lot of people haven't heard of Schitt's Creek. I've heard of Schitt's Creek and I think oh you know what I probably did

because I'm like what the fuck is Pop TV when I looked at the market. Yeah and I was the same way Miles it is so I've watched it I've watched every season now two or three times the writing yes it's hilarious it's like this perfect escapism if you need like just quick comedic writing the family is hilarious I love it so much check it out I think it's so underrated and don't be like me and wait a year to watch it. It's amazing. And if I don't have Pop TV, what do I do?

You can watch it on Netflix. Oh, okay, got you. So the first two seasons. Oh, but it's broadcast on Pop TV. Yeah, so they're already on season three or four, I think, on Pop TV. But you can at least watch the first two or three on Netflix. Got you. See, I need to show up.

Catherine O'Hara is the, oh, she's so good. Well, I love all those old SCTV people. Yes, exactly. They're like, oh, geez, this comedy shit. Yeah. Eugene Levy, people know from American Pie. American Pie is the dad. And then he had a bunch of, he got paid.

He went out and made a bunch of movies. Some of them were not the best movies. That's probably why I was ignoring this. And it's also created by him and his son. His son, who looks just, I mean, they have the same eyebrows. I love it. Perfectly cast. But yeah, when you think about it, I mean, Eugene Levy goes back to SCTV.

With Catherine O'Hara, yeah. Yeah, he's like an old school comedy genius. It's so good. Yeah, like you give him control over what he's doing and it's going to be dope. Chris Elliott, right? Chris Elliott's involved? Yeah. You give him control over what he's doing, and it's going to be dope. Chris Elliott, right? Chris Elliott's involved? Yeah. Oh, shit.

Well, then that's fucking, that guy's the best. Yeah. He plays the mayor. Oh, that's amazing. Oh, he's so great. Y'all go watch it. Did you watch Eagleheart, his show on, I think that's what it was called, on Adult Swim? It was made by Chris Elliott.

Chris Elliott's an underrated comedy person just in general. I mean, Dom Wiginowski himself. Yeah. Oh, yeah. From Something About Mary.

Yeah, from Something About Mary with all his hives. Yeah. Oh, God. On your fucking eyeballs. On your fucking eyeballs. His puss hives. Yeah.

Also, shout out to Matt Dillon in that film. Also, great performance. Pat Healy, one Dillon in that film. Also great performance. Pat Healy, one of the great shithead characters ever written. Really, really unbelievable. Dani, finally, what is a myth? What's something that people think is true that you know to be false?

Yeah, everyone thinks that Anastasia is a Disney film and it is not and it bothers the heck out of me. Anastasia is not a Disney princess nor a Disney film. It was done by Fox Animation Studios. It was distributed by 20th Century Fox. So that's a question you'll probably get wrong in trivia or Jeopardy someday. I'm sorry to burst your bubble.

Yeah, so don't play yourself in front of people. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I can't count how many times I've been embarrassed by saying this in front of friends and loved ones. But it really, the Anastasia font even, like when you look at the poster, it is straight up like Disney movie font. Oh, you can compare her, aside from the, yeah, the whole princess gown and the music in it,

but also just the way she looks. They made her look a lot like Ariel when they designed her. So yeah, it's understandable. Yeah, she does look a lot like Ariel when they designed her. So yeah, it's understandable. Yeah, she does look a lot like Ariel. It's interesting because Disney movies are usually based on, they're like very cleaned up versions

of super dark fairy tales. Especially this one. Well, this is based on a true story that is so fucking dark. They talking about her family getting killed? Yeah, the Sars family getting killed. Oh, because she's the Tsarina, right? The lost Tsarina.

She's the lost Tsarina who, in actuality, was not lost and was just taken down. Was like a con person, right? No, according to my history professors, they're pretty sure that she, not to ruin everyone's day, but that she also. She was just murdered with everybody else. Yeah, but like. No, wasn't there somebody who was trying to claim that's what I'm talking about

yes there was a scammer in Zarina but I don't know if she was a scammer she I think yeah but she she had

some some issues and and possibly thought that she might have been and I think a lot of people told her I think that's not

only her fault I think a lot of people told her you look like her you could possibly be her that's a whole her fault. I think a lot of people told me, you look like her. You could possibly be her. That's a whole, yeah, there's documentaries on the whole entire thing. I really identify with,

I felt the same way about Tiger Woods. People said, you look like him. You should play golf. I tried it. I was terrible. I'm half black and Asian. What the fuck is going on? God.

Yeah, every time I walk into a casting room. I'm sorry. The Met Gala got me. I am gaslit as Gina Rodriguez. Nah, nah. Girl, you in your own lane thank you, leave Gina alone but anyways, yeah, so that's my myth, it is not a Disney movie

it is a lot bigger of a movie than I thought it's box office was 140 million dollars I didn't realize it was that big of a hit it is so good and it's like huge with people who are a little younger than me. Yeah. Or con artists.

I always need to bring in some 90s Disney facts. Yeah, for sure. I had Goofy Movie and, you know, I'm here for it. Goofy Movie had the mentions lit for a good week. Yeah, yeah. As people even were discovering, oh my God. Exactly. Funny what's controversial.

It's vaping and 90s Disney facts. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's like what will get you. All right. Let's get into the 90s Disney facts. Yeah, exactly. That's what will get you. All right. Let's get into the stories of the day. We're trying to take a sample of the national shared consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about right now. Oh, global today.

We got some global shit going on today. Yeah, we got some globe. We're going international now. So first up, just something we haven't mentioned, but Hawaii is is erupting uh and jesus that yeah that's not it looks fake like lava looks like it does in bad movies in actuality i guess uh it's just like a lot it's wild yeah this is what kill away on the big island i actually it's crazy when i was like in ninth grade or something i went down there uh on the big island and saw like where the last flow had come.

And it's crazy like where just you just sort of have to build around it. Yeah. Like the road just ends where the flow sort of ceased to move anymore. Yeah. And when you look at this shit now, man, the videos are so crazy because it's just so slow moving, but the heat is like just melting cars and trees and gates. You know what it looks like to bring it back to the 90s? It looks like the toxic creature in Ferngully.

Oh, shit. Yeah, it does kind of look like the toxic creature. Yeah. So we might have to talk. This is why y'all brought me in. I'm just going to keep... Anyways, with Home Alone... In Home Alone terms, it's like the

part where he opens the door and the flamethrower lets his head up. If we could talk about Dunstan Checks In. Oh, I love that one. It's like the part where he opens the door and the flamethrower lets his head up. Yeah. If we could talk about Dunstan Checks In. Oh, I love that one. Baby's Day Off. You know how Hawaii looks like someone skied it on the Pacific Ocean? Like a blood splatter.

Yeah, like a blood splatter. That's because it's moving west to east. It's like a volcano that was moving west to east. It's like a volcano that was moving west to east. And so it's like the very eastern tip of Hawaii is still erupting. But all the older... So it's interesting because the further west you go, the older the islands are,

the more lush vegetation there is. Right, right, right. Hey, but the coffee, the cone of coffee though comes from the big islands. The other thing we're learning is that you can't just hang out on a catwalk above a lava flow because you will die of toxic gas. It's not like that third Star Wars prequel where they're just hanging out, having sword fights above the... Yeah, that shit, you will be inhaling toxic gas, unfortunately.

Did you know that NASA's been having people live in a dome on a volcano? Yeah. Like Mars training? Uh-huh, yeah, for Mars training. They live in it for a year. There's like five or six of them have to live for 365 days in a dome and act like they're on Mars. I mean, I was familiar with this

with the film Biodome that came out. But do you remember that movie? No. What, with Pauly Short? Was it in the 90s? Yeah. Oh, dang. And Stephen Baldwin, I think. Or is it Billy or movie? No. What? With Pauly Short? Was it in the 90s? Yeah. Oh, dang.

And Stephen Baldwin, I think. Or is it Billy or Stephen? Anyway. Let's make it a goal. We're going to relate every single story back to a 90s movie. Today's challenge, yes. So up next, we have the Met Gala. A tweet from my good friend, Bag It Cracked, Jason Parge, writes on Cracked, as David Wong said,

I had never heard of the Met Gala until an hour ago, and I don't know what the fuck is going on. Is this the hunger games? And it did seem like it kind of broke through last night. I don't know. Maybe just because Twitter is now a bigger thing or a bigger part of our lives or for some reason, everybody was talking about it.

And the theme was heavenly bodies and the Catholic imagination which you know was a very usually they go with some avant-garde shit like the future or robots or you know shit like that and this time they went with the Catholic Church which was interesting so shout out to the Catholic Church I didn't think they would be one of the big winners of the Met Gala, but the Catholic Church in there. Rihanna won, as usual, by rocking. Making a Pope hat look better than it's ever looked. El Padre!

El Padre, you know. Yeah, the Pope hat, man. Pope hat, I mean, we knew that was going to be overused. I mean, that's like the low-hanging fruit. I've been wanting to wear one for a while. one of my favorite sketches we had back at cracked was like how the pope hat was originally invented and it's just like at some point somebody was made pope and they were like all right so my hat needs to be bigger than everybody else's hat i need to look giant and then when i'm chilling i'm gonna rock the brimless one have y'all seen that meme of like the british

royal guard where he's getting his hair cut and it's like the hat, but his head goes all the way up? The whole thing is his head. It's covering his head. They actually did it just to help one soldier feel less self-conscious about his skull. Dude, J-Lo was fine as hell. Oh my God. Oh God, she's reverse aging.

J-Lo looked like, so everybody, there were- Hold on. First of all, Nick Stumpf, super producer, is forcing 90s references on his whiteboard to me

through the window and goes, my hat is like a shark's fin. Like a deep blue reference, deep blue sea reference. Yeah. Oh my God. I was like looking at him like,

what the fuck? Yeah. I'm a cool G. My hat is like a shark's fin. But that's like the song, that's like a soundtrack reference to a film. Yo, man. That's a great tie back, Nick.

Shout out to you. You got points on the board, my man. Sorry to interrupt, but going back to you. Pulling up from 40. So everybody had, there were all these beautiful, intricate dresses. And J-Lo came in looking like she was the sexy Halloween costume version of the other dresses. She just like, man, she looked good. What is?

But it was just. Yeah, the sequins remind me of her Selena 1997. Oh. Okay. Her Selena days. You know what's like a big cross on her torso. But that cross, the shape of it is like what kind of like old ladies wear. Like that embellished cross is the kind of cross you see on the shape of it is like what kind of like old ladies wear, like embellished.

That embellished cross is the kind of cross you see on the pocket of jeans of people who are like Can I speak with your manager? Can I speak with your manager crosses? But yeah, she my goodness. God damn. J-Lo shout out to you. Clearly money helps people stay relaxed and just not age

because you don't have a care in the fucking world. Yeah, seriously. Because, you know, there are some rich people who don't look that good. Yeah, but I think those people are evil. Yeah, yeah. But they do bad shit. They just got evil eating them from the inside. I've heard of drinking water.

Right, right. Amal Clooney showed up in pants, which you would think would not be a glamorous move, but she just made it look glamorous as fuck. She had a train, though. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It was pants with a glamorous big train behind her. It looked really good. Blake Lively, I don't know.

She had sort of a goth stained glass window Spanish crown vibe, which I'm never a big fan of Blake Lively. As you guys know, I think Ryan could do better. Yes, honey, tell them. Tell the children. And as Danny pointed out, she is a man stealer. Oh, no, you're calling me out. God damn it.

You are getting messy today, Jack. These were private conversations. First, you're like, we need a website where men get called out also. Danny, what'd you say about Blake Lydon? Is she a man-thief? Anyway, I don't like- You're going to get me kicked off Riot. No, I do want to say that he is probably just as guilty.

And if he were here in the room, he would say they probably fell in love after Scarlett and him had ended. Look, this is a podcast where we speculate wildly with our weird takes. Stop trying to get me blacklisted, Jack. Okay, yeah, yeah, my apologies. Yeah, Danny might not be in a movie with good acting in it. Right, just so everybody knows, Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds apparently both on Raya, according to Danny, because she said this was just her band. But yeah, she showed up looking like she just approved a voyage to the new world for Christopher Columbus. It was like very like Spanish vibe.

She looked great. I think you're talking about Queen Isabel. Sure. But she looked like she is like on top of everybody's list of best dressed. I'm sorry, Isabella. SZA looked good. Frances McDormand, which ballsy invite for the Met Gala because Frances McDormand usually shows up looking, you know, like she's in her sweats,

just like fucking around. And she showed up in a crazy outfit, dressed up like a tree, but she pulled it off. She made it look good. Chadwick Boseman. Oh, yes. I have not seen a dude's outfit stop the show before at the Met Gala

you've been watching for years I've been I am a gala watcher that's what I'm gonna say people don't know you're a gala head he showed up looking good

so looking like a snack looking like a snack a snack pack he's a whole meal Migos look pretty dope this nah Migos look

fucking lame did they? they just wore the same kind of shit they wear which are just really tight dress shirts and pants just with the patterns with like the wore the same kind of shit they wear, which are just really tight dress shirts and pants just with the patterns and stuff. With the embroidery and the patterns and shit.

They're not taking it real. The only risk they took was with the patterning. It's not like you're going to see them in some real... Anyway. I guess my thinking is that this was almost made for Migos, like this theme. It was just like... This theme was made for Cardi B.

Yes, she looked amazing. Looking like Mother Earth. But also this... Honestly, I think for me watching it this year, she looked amazing. Looking like Mother Earth. But also this, honestly, I think for me watching it this year, because I used to work for Conde Nast, which is the publisher of Vogue. Last year, we were all watching The Office and the last year was based off,

the theme was Rei Kawakubo, who was the, you know, the woman behind Comme des Garcons. And everyone was just kind of using her sort of avant-garde design just to do like really out there shit. It didn't feel like everyone was wearing something nice or whatever. It just felt like they just sort of took the theme like, okay, I'm just wearing something crazy because that's how they took it.

So I think with this theme, at least gave people an aesthetic to kind of try and inspire where last time it seemed a little. But again, I'm not a fucking fashion editor. So take my takes with like eight spoonfuls of salt right yeah I mean some people took it in a direction that was you know not quite as classic as you know the people who pulled it off like Katy Perry showed up

dressed like an angel which was just you know it wasn't it's not a pigeon it's not a Halloween costume yeah or a pigeon she was the host or one of the featured Or a pigeon. It's not a Halloween costume. Yeah, or a pigeon. Oh, yeah. Oh, no.

She was the host or one of the featured guests last year. She was the chair last year. Oh, so Amal Clooney, Rihanna, and Donatella Versace were the event day chairs for this year. Got it. Madonna showed up, was just clearly wearing some shit she already had in her closet. Like, this was invented for Madonna. For her, yeah. She's been dressing like a problematic Catholic for years. This was her birthday party.

She was like, y'all wearing rosaries now? Okay. And Elon Musk and Grimes made their debut as a couple, and I died a little bit inside. That dude is the wackest. What do they talk about? I don't know, man. They probably don't talk.

Just future shit? The fact that he's into her, I'm like, y'all wild. I know, that'sall wild I know that's weird he's that I love that I know that everyone's like don't do it

but I'm like I think that's really I love that he yeah her synth line's like boom boom boom boom boom boom he's like ooh that's

that's mathematically telling me something ooh I like Grimes I love when like super professional men like have a freak side yeah I mean I don't know

if he's super professional he's just super rich okay well there you go but I mean, I don't know if he's super professional. He's just super rich. Okay, well, there you go. But I mean, he's not in that world. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. So I love that. Because he's not a guy who goes,

ooh, Elon Musk, his swag. All right, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.

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more. You gotta watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you gotta listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just, you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and uh it's time for another update of men guys so the new york state attorney general a gentleman by the name of eric schneiderman who people reacting like he was a household name

uh but this was kind of like, I guess I had definitely read news stories with his name in it. Maybe we'd even talked about a few on this podcast, but if you had said Eric Schneiderman to me yesterday, I would not have been able to place that name, but he is gone. He just stepped down from being the New York State Attorney General because of a New Yorker article by Benghazi superhero Ronan Farrow, who interviewed four women, exes of Schneiderman,

who said that he was, you know, violent and just all sorts of problematic in their relationship, which is crazy because this dude was, you know, number one women's advocate in the cases that he was trying. He was going after Harvey Weinstein. And so, you know, it's it's not the most surprising thing in the world that a politician slash bureaucrat is man in power. Politician slash bureaucrat is... Man in power. Man in power is not who he projected himself to be in the public eye. But this is being turned into a win for the conservatives. Donald Trump Jr. is like, hey, Eric, it's not role play if only one of you is in on it, which is fine. He's not wrong.

He's definitely not wrong. I mean, him and his family need to realize that. It's just tone deaf as fuck. But people in the comments are reacting like, hey, Junior, how's that divorce going and stuff? And it's just like perpetuating this thing where it's like Eric Schneiderman's on our side and Donald Trump's on your side.

It's just like, no, man, we all hate. But that's what's happened because the Me Too movement by some people has been used as a weapon. And it's perpetuating this sort of partisan world where, especially on the right, their whole thing is they're using this as a win in a political game. Yeah. Rather than about just a fucking man being held accountable for his actions. And the women that he victimized or whatever, they completely ignore that to be able to be like hey robert muller what's going on with your best friend we need to investigate muller now it's like it's this isn't why this is a story so that is something

that i'm hearing is like people connecting them and being like their partners what what is the connection between muller and uh because he's been because he's the attorney general of new york you know when muller was talking to him about referring certain crimes he discovered, that meant that state charges could be brought up against the Trump organization, which cannot be pardoned. Only federal crimes can be. saying, oh, wow, this can make things very complicated in the event that they're trying to prosecute some like financial crimes they dig up that won't be like and they felt that Schneiderman was the person who was most likely to follow through on anything, even if Mueller were fired. So people I think especially if you are in the camp that is just holding on to Mueller as your savior to end this nightmare again, check your check your nightmares. But anyway,

yeah, the fact that they were working together created this connection that now people are just trying to conflate. Like, oh, well, then, you know, Mike Cernovich just tweeted something like, what did Mueller know about his partner, Eric Schneiderman? What was he covering up? Rapes? Pedophilia? It's time for Mueller to answer some questions. Why would Mueller know anything? They're just working on a single case together.

But that's why, again, this thing on the right has been used as just, it's just, oh, look, someone who came after Trump is bad, so therefore let's ignore what Trump has done. I feel like they're okay with outing men as long as it's on the other side, whereas I feel like we, at least speaking from myself and other liberal women, we just want to out everybody who has hurt men and women. And I feel like we were saying that, yeah, the self-reflection needs to be on their own side as well.

And so whenever something like this happens, which again, it was outed by or helped to be outed by Ronan, yeah, they just seem to be okay with it as long as it's not happening in their own headquarters. Your guys didn't catch him, by the way. It's not like Drudge pulled this out. It was a New Yorker article who you consider to be the enemy. Right. And I think the one, if we are going to take sides in this, the one difference between

how these sorts of sex crims are dealt with is that when they are on the left, they are immediately dealt with. Whereas when they're on the right, you elect them president. Well, it's because we're like, we don't want you fucking this up. We're going to cut ties with you. Whereas on the other side, it's like we're going to make excuses for you and keep you here. Right. And the other thing, just the difference between Mueller and Eric Schneiderman is Eric Schneiderman is a Democrat.

Robert Mueller is a lifelong conservative Republican. I feel like people just don't remember that, that Mueller is a Republican. He's one of you guys. He's just upfront on this and sees how fucked everything has become. He just respects something called the law. Right, exactly. All right, we are going to bring in super producer Anna Hosnier

to talk to us about a story that is just developing as we're recording this. We're recording this on Tuesday, right around noon Pacific time. Donald Trump has just announced that the U.S. will be withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal, which everybody expected because it was a signature achievement of the Obama administration. Because it was a signature achievement of the Obama administration. And basically for reasons of racism and just ego and hatred. He hates everything that the Obama administration accomplished. But then there are conservatives who think that this deal was bad.

And he's also getting really cool opinions from John Bolton and Mike Pompeo and the rest of the gang. And Israel. I mean, Netanyahu's TED Talk really must have got to him. Right. That was only in English. And the first reaction to Trump's speech about leaving the deal was like, wait, did Benjamin Netanyahu write that? But, sorry about that long

rambling introduction. Ana, thank you for joining us. We're all gonna die. Okay. And that thank you for joining us. We're all going to die. Okay. And that was producer Anna Hosnier. So what can you tell us about, this is something that you dedicated an entire episode to on ethnically ambiguous or a big chunk of an episode.

Yeah, in the episode, We Are the Bomb, which, regret that title. Recorded in 1995. We talk, I break down what the Iran. He brought it back to the 90s. Woo! I broke down what the Iran nuclear deal was and what happens if we lose it.

And it's not good. It's not necessarily good for America and it's not good for Iran. and is not good for Iran. I think for most people who are arguing for it, it's preventing Iran from arming itself with a nuclear weapon. And given any of the deficiencies or the shortcomings of it, that works and we've relieved sanctions prior to this moment. And it seemed like Iran, for the most part,

was following through on the deal, despite the description that the president gave. Yeah, Iran followed through everything. The IAEA, which is like the Atomic Energy Commission, I don't know. They are in charge of making sure no one's building nuclear weapons, has confirmed that they have followed through with all the requirements for the nuclear deal, even though Netanyahu tried to pull out some strange evidence, which they denied. They said that's not real. So they've been doing everything on their part. But since today, when Trump decided that the nuclear deal shouldn't exist because he doesn't

have any facts and just wants to be a dick, apparently Rouhani has instructed Iran's atomic agency to prepare for industrial level enrichment of uranium. So who is Rouhani? Rouhani is the president of Iran. And one of the requirements for the nuclear deal was that Iran seize any enrichment of uranium, which is what people use to, not people, but what you can use to...

I mean, it's what we use here at the Daily Zeitgeist. To make nuclear weapons. To make nuclear weapons to make nuclear weapons yes so um oh wait so he he just announced that they are just gonna start to prepare the industrial level enrichment of uranium but he asked the agency to wait a few weeks to gauge how europeans react to trump because europe still is all about the iran deal right um trump just doesn't get things so he doesn't understand that this could end incredibly poorly. Also, he wants to impose aggressive economic sanctions, even though Iran is really struggling in their economy right now.

Like, the rial has lost, the rial, which is their version of money, their dollar or whatever. Like, their version of money. Has lost a lot of weight against a dollar so right now a lot of iranians are struggling and they're very upset with the government which is what led to the protests all of the end of last year so it's it's going to be a very tough time for iran and um i think this is incredibly fucked up yeah so it mean, one of the criticisms of the Obama deal

was that the promise had been that because America was withdrawing some of the sanctions, that Iran would be brought more into the international fold. Right.

And, you know, it would be like, Iran's open for business, everybody. And they'd cut a ribbon and fucking Starbucks would pour in. Right. And that didn't turn out to be the business, everybody. And they'd cut a ribbon and fucking Starbucks would pour in.

Right. And that didn't turn out to be the case. Yes. And that's mostly because American banks and credit unions don't work with foreign countries like Iran. Because for so long, we've been told not to work with them. So it would take years for that to fully start to happen. And it was beginning to. It was slowly beginning to.

to happen. Right. And it was beginning to. It was slowly beginning to like Boeing signed like billion dollar deal to bring airplane parts, which actually the about 100,000 people were hired to work on these airplanes for Boeing to build all these parts for Iran and send them over there. So if that deal is lost, then all these people in America lose their jobs. And all these diplomats and, you know, Iranian officials had worked hard to be like, no, trust us, this is going to happen. We're going to be friends from now on. And so all those people are being burned. A lot of diplomats are being burned. Iran and the leadership in Iran is being burned because Hassan Rouhani was sort of, even though there was a lot of protests against him, he was very sort of middle of the road, correct? Yes, he championed for this deal.

So the fact that it's falling apart, it really gives hardliners in Iran more leverage. He put his neck out for America, essentially. Right, to be like, don't trust this Western world, which is bad because we don't want this regime to continue to oppress people in this country. And a lot of the protests stem from the fact that iran focuses so much of their energy on like outside

wars like with syria and yemen and so little is looked into in the actual country so right and that's kind of one of the reasons why trump is like it's a bad deal because he expect the deal to just be like well we will sign this and then you play nice everywhere and then he sees shit going on everywhere else and go, this deal is rotten without understanding what the whole purpose of this agreement. And like you're saying, there are other countries that are still dedicated to this deal. They continue to say we will honor everything. But, you know, again, like you say, it fucks things up because our banks won't do business with Iran. And these secondary sanctions that Trump has put back in place makes it even harder for some of the European allies who were beginning to do business in Iran

to continue that. So the knock-on effects are very significant. Yeah. It really reminds me of back when America was desperate to go to a war with Iraq. And so it was just like they were pooling evidence from all these different places and they were going in to make presentations being like, look, this photograph shows that they have weapons of mass destruction. They got yellow cake.

And Saddam Hussein said this 20 years ago and therefore it just seems the same here. It's like Netanyahu's presentation, his TED Talk that he delivered for an audience of one. It was written exactly for Trump. And it was using stuff from before this nuclear deal. So he's just like pulling old shit from computers that they had like taken from computers. The presentation essentially was they had a clandestine nuclear project prior to signing the deal.

Prior to this deal. And so they're using that. Trump is using the fact that business hasn't opened up as quickly as they had hoped and that they were hostile to some in other situations. And that it's just any excuse. It's like whenever you have a dude who's looking for a fight and he's like, what the fuck did you just say? What are you looking at? And it's like, well, you just yelled at me so I looked in your direction

and this is not about anything that ever happened to me. Don't worry about it. Also, say goodbye to any sort of cheap gas prices in the future. Yeah, gas prices are gonna go up, up, up. That's one thing. Don't fuck with the country that gives you about 3.8 million barrels a day.

Is that really true? Yeah, that's about a million barrels a day more than 2015. Public transportation. They've upped it a lot since sanctions were eased up. So thanks, y'all. I don't know how our gas could get any higher. Yeah. All right.

So let's ride these bicycles. We are all going to die. Bye, everybody. That's a bleak outlook, but yeah. Maybe we should edit out everything and just go back to, we are all going to die

in nuclear wars. We're all going to die. All right. So Melania Trump is, can't stop copying Michelle. Well, we do need to move on to Melania Trump because she is

our greatest statesman working right now. Stateswoman. Stateswoman. Sure. Stateslady. Is she a Slovenia person or a Slovakia person? I just want to use Don Blankenship nomenclature. Right. So we all remember that she ripped Michelle

off for the 2016 RNC speech. So proudly and blatantly. It was just like, this is bomb. Oh my God. I am killing it. At least in high school,

we knew to like change, you know, like rephrase it in your own. A couple words? Hell yeah. You know, so you can't like Google copy and paste that like my professors did.

Man, luckily I was, I was operating at a time before Google really, like I was using AltaVista to find shit to plagiarize on the internet. Oh God. God. So, I mean, not that we can really blame her Michelle was the best first lady that has existed in the modern era uh so you know she did it better than anyone else why wouldn't you want to steal from her so Melania's a big signature thing has online bullying, which is fucking hilarious and the biggest irony of all.

But we can just move on from that. You know, it's funny. There's an article. I think it was Vanity Fair. I got to find it. But there were reports or like in the reporting of this article, they were saying that people at the White House were asking her maybe to pick a different topic. Right. And she was like, no, it's going to be cyberbullying.

What if this is her passive aggressive way, though? There is a lot of, well, she does, that's what she does. She's, you know, and that's why like a lot of people go, I feel bad. I don't feel bad for her. I don't feel bad for her, but girl, give us a couple winks, you know, do it like. I'm like, I get it. Look, you're a parasite and you latched onto an old host. You thought the body would expire very soon.

And it turns out motherfucker is as invincible as Wolverine. An actual cockroach that won't die. Body's made of adamantium. Here's the thing. I think it's more like his body's made of whatever McDonald's hamburgers are made of because those also don't age. That's true, it doesn't.

So you just add something that's like for like. It's not that I feel bad for her but I do want to read her books so badly. I mean, in 10 years I feel she she's going to have to drop one. Right. Yeah. I mean, let's be real, though. I want to see it.

She will just plagiarize Michelle Obama. Oh, God. I think you can just do that. My husband, the first black president. She's like the first whack president. Right. Yeah. So what happened?

So this is crazy. She dropped this pamphlet she drops so the whole thing is part of like her new uh program for you know children that she she has called be best now again due to her history of biting michelle swag i just want to present to you a very huge moment uh that came out of like 2016 when Michelle Obama was sat down with Oprah. So, you know, that was a moment. It was a movie. And Oprah was just basically asking, what can men do? Just here. Just anyway, there's a very big moment between Michelle Obama and Oprah that many people probably remember. What can men do leaving here? Be better.

Be better. Be better at everything. So I think that was like at the International Women's Congress. It was a women's gathering where this panel took place, this interview took place. And that was like a big moment. It was iconic. Yeah. And then so they ask her for her program. It's called Be Best,

which if I think about it, if you put in order of grammatically what's above better, it is best, but grammatically Be Best doesn't quite track. Yeah. If Michelle Obama, when Oprah had said, what's your recommendation for men? If she had said Be Best, people would have been like, oh shit, is she having a stroke? What's happening right now? That's not a thing. And then Melania would have to be called, be bester. Right. Or some shit like that. Do goodest.

Yeah. Her campaign, the main sort of theme is be best. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's an odd thing. It's a repackaging of many, like, sort of outreach programs that already exist. So, like, for example, like, it's talking about cyberbullying to health to even, like, getting kids to, like, not abuse opioids. Kind of a weird third prong of this program, which obviously I'm all for, obviously, educating kids because the opioid epidemic is real. I think kids should try opioids.

I think, no. Yeah, no, for real. I mean, look, until you're nodding off on your Nintendo Switch, you don't know what life is. You don't know the struggle. But, no, that was a kind of bizarre thing. I wasn't aware of a childhood opioid epidemic. But I'm sure actually now in the era that we live in, access to opioids is much easier for children. So they could just buy, you know, just in their home could be around.

So, yeah, definitely let the children know drugs are bad. But the thing is, in this one handbook she passed out, specifically on cyberbullying, you know, her big cause, her big passion project, hers is called Talking with Kids About Being Online, where it has a bunch of stuff on there about what to do. Wait, can we just talk about that title? Yeah, Talking With Kids. But the thing is, when you look back, the FTC put under Obama put out a very similar pamphlet called Net Cetera, Chatting With Kids. Chatting With Kids about being online.

Yeah, so she kind of took your advice there. She changed one word and got rid of the main title. She got rid of the main title because there was a clever play on words, Net Cetera. And she was like, that doesn't mean anything to me she'll be like she'll be like too clever no she's like at nettera right no but that's she presumably just deleted that because she didn't know it like wow yeah but then when you go inside hold the shit is the exact same the design is identical they updated sort of the shape of a phone to look more like a new iphone but like the wording is the exact same so you know like yo it's tough it's tough you know so you just have to understand if you're not looking at this

that the cover that has the same title basically repurposed, has 24 icons on it. And on both of them, it is the identical same icon, same order. Like they didn't change shit. They just basically took it. If you look at the cell phones, they're less thick around the rim. Like they caught on to like rimless phones.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they updated the iPhone and we're like, okay, that's good. We're there. Yeah, you can check the footnotes if you really want to see, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they updated the iPhone and we're like, okay, that's good. We're there. Yeah, you can check the footnotes if you really want to see these images. Yeah, you should. So, I don't know.

It's just another example of them just not thinking people are paying attention, I guess. Yeah, definitely not. I mean, look, plagiarism is chill. Who better than the first lady to let kids know that? Yeah. I mean, at the same time, it's just like, this isn't the worst thing that the Trump administration. No, not at all. It's just funny because this is so devoid of any kind of original thought or even effort.

I think it's funny just because of how much they shit on the Obama administration to then be like, oh, but we actually like all of your plans. Right. But not Melania. Melania certainly doesn't shit on them because she was laughing at Barack's jokes at Barbara Bush's funeral. He's charming. I mean, how could you not?

He's charming. He's a charming motherfucker and she's used to being around that fucking, the guy who doesn't even wait for her when he gets out of a car. That's the real Mr. President

right there. So, we also, that's a real, mm-hmm, let him know. You know he probably told Michelle, he's like look don't get

mad I'm gonna make money laugh it's gonna be a good photo it's gonna get done he probably was like you know we got a guest room if you ever you know yeah yeah he's like hey if it gets hot at the West Wing or no granted she doesn't she doesn't go near the West Wing in that same article they also mentioned it's like yeah we got a little uh condo if you need to just duck out for a second. All right. Let's talk about the NRA convention because that happened within the last week. Yeah, and it was really cool. Super chill.

I mean, look, they know what they're doing. You know, they basically appointed the greatest weapons smuggler and guy to cover up foreign collusion ever, Ollie North, to be the new president of the NRA. Now, if you don't know who Ali North is, Oliver North, he was a part of the Reagan administration, and he was working on the NSC, the National Security Council, where he cooked up a really dope plan. He's like, look, we're going to sell weapons to Iran, but we're not supposed to.

So we're going to do that shit on the sly. But also, with the profits we make off of that, we're going to help fund the Contras in Nicaragua, who Congress said we can't fund because they do shit like smuggle cocaine and they're problematic, blah, blah, blah. It was like crime syndicate shit that they were doing. Yeah, 100% illegal arms dealing, using the profits to fund another conflict in Latin America. Now, the reason the Contras were fighting the legitimate Sandinista government in Nicaragua, because they were socialists, they were like, fuck no. That's basically a precursor to everybody in the U.S. honoring and bowing down to the hammer and sickle of communism.

They were just like, fuck that. Let's get the Contras to basically turn it up in there because they need to fight on behalf of capitalism and he even tried to cover it all up he had his secretary shredding documents and shit and the whole thing was a gigantic fiasco uh so actually and also take also just want to do a little side a shout out check out the ethnically ambiguous episode called we are over trash dictators to learn more about the Iran Contra affair. But basically, this was a very big, significant moment because everybody was like, wait, what the fuck is going on? You guys are illegally selling arms. Wait, like the whole scheme was blown up and it was a gigantic controversy.

And Ali North basically was the fall guy for the fuckery of the administration. Right. He is the most iconic person you can come up with for like doing something illegal with weapons. Yeah. And the NRA was like him. Yeah. It's like we're like if Mark Furman became the head of the NAACP. No. Or him of like the Policeman's Union. Right. Right. OK. Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. Well, it does because if you think about it, the new tactic for the NRA is to now circle the wagons

by just ramping up the culture war. Right, fuck libs. Fuck liberals, even if they own guns too. The only people we know who are really going to buy our insane narratives about not holding guns responsible for the violence in this country is to just ramp up the culture war and to have Ollie North,

who already historically, like for some older conservatives, already look at him as a victim of cuckery. The liberals are like, oh, what's going on over there? And they're like, this guy was just being a fucking patriot, man. He's doing what's right. Yeah, this is a perfect thing because, look, it melted down the internet and the right takes joy in this. And they're like, yeah, exactly.

This is the kind of guy we need because he gets it because this is a full on us versus them situation. Yeah. It is sort of sad. The entire agenda on the right seems to be trying to make the left mad, which is not a coherent strategy in terms of how to run a country. And it will have actual effects, IRL. Trump at the NRA convention made the following argument. May I just make one more point? Yes.

I just want to also bring up what's amazing about Ali North is that he quite literally tried to create a deep state like organization in the government. Oh, did he? Oh, yes. When they really started talking about like his money scheme okay so this is from an article like from the 80s in the la times like right after all this shit came out uh they were saying that he and the late director of the cia william casey had a

plan to establish their own clandestine alternative to the cia what the senate investigating committee uh chairman daniel inouye uh shout out to Hawaii, called, quote, a secret government within our government. As North described the plan, he and Casey would have used profits from the secret sale of U.S. arms to Iran to run a, quote, off the shelf, self-sustaining standalone entity that could perform certain activities overseas. Unlike the CIA, the secret organization would not have to depend on Congress for its funds or notify lawmakers of its activities. Boom! They called it Project Democracy. I mean, the dude has also literally tried, he

had a really plan to figure out how to fund a government within a government. That shit happens, guys. That's happening now. It only exists if they're at C Pizza, they're hiding kids in the basement or something. That's your deep state.

Not this guy who actually tried to funnel funds to create like a side project. Right. Anyway, I'm sorry. I digress. Yeah. Wait, no, I don't. We're still talking about it. Also, look up the business plot.

If you find that hard to believe, look up the business plot plot which is when a bunch of uh rich businessmen decided to try to overthrow the u.s government uh of fdr because they were like nah he's not like we need to take this over he's trying to share yeah become fascist uh because he's trying to share our wealth uh and the only reason it got broken up was because they went to a former military guy and were like, hey, Snidely, I think his name was. Wait, actually? Yeah, I'm pretty sure his name was something. Not just an adjective.

Something crazy, evil sounding. Can you help us overthrow the government? And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then went and told the government. Yeah, yeah, hold on. Let me just talk to somebody really quick. Yeah, it's Snidely. They're trying to overthrow. He sounds talk to somebody really quick. Yeah, it's Snidely. They're trying to over...

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Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I'm sorry, it was General Smedley Butler. Smedley Butthole? Uh-oh. Burned him. Hey, you need to read Melania's online bullying thing.

Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. I mean Smedley Butler, the honorable. Yeah, and it was the heads of a number of well-known and still well-respected companies who were trying to overthrow the government and become like- Well, look, everybody has to try and shoot their shot at one point.

Smedley Butler. I bet he looks like Toby from The Office. Right. Just like, God, fucking Smedley again. Smedling in our business. All right, real quick. Also from the NRA convention over the weekend, just a couple amazing images.

This young child loading a bolt action rifle as a woman sort of cheers. Egged him on. Yeah, like almost like. Encouraged him. Yeah, yeah. Cheerleading. Yeah.

I mean, go faster, harder. Yeah, for the record, he's not loading it, but he is actually demonstrating a full on function of this bolt action rifle in like military speed. I guess we'll play the clip. I don't know if it's going to really translate for people that are listening, but the sound you're hearing is a child. Yeah, he's like four. Who. Yeah for uh can barely like walk in a way That seems like he has control of his body, but my god if his hands know his way around that rifle. Let's hear this

That is awesome, how old are you Maverick? He is four years old. Show me what you do with the gun. Do it again. Then also pulling the trigger right after, too. Oh, can you put it back in? Oh, my God. His little child laughed. He's loving it. Yeah, it's a toy to him and probably his parents

as well so that's something um that is adorable I saw on

yeah that's what I meant by something I meant that's adorable the woman who posted this on twitter you know she said this is incredible parenting done right

American flag American flag American flag and again not that you can't you know like said, I'm not fully against all weapons. I do think this kid just thinks like he's just doing a thing because it makes his dad really happy. It makes him clap. The responsibility of these parents are to also kind of like let kids know guns are not like he, he, he stuff either at that age.

It's be very careful. It's so tone deaf from this side, from the amount of school shootings that we have had it's just frightening and terrifying and i saw people on twitter that were like so like what if his dad takes him hunting he can't teach him like he's four years old yeah and thinks that this is essentially a toy um and it's terrifying that i yeah like that she was encouraging him. But that's what you're saying right now is exactly the point. They want you to say that they want, they put this video up.

They want you, they want the reaction of people to go, right. That little boy knows how to use a gun. This is disgusting. And then they retweet that and say, see, this is what we're up against because the narrative that only works for the NRA is liberals are trying to steal all

of your fucking guns. So fuck them. Maybe you were trying to take them away from your four year old. Right. As we've talked about, like the gun sales have gone in the tank since Trump was elected because everybody was arming themselves because they thought Obama was coming for their guns. And so in order to get gun sales back up, the NRA has to make it seem like liberals are coming for your guns and sort of weaponize this culture. Obama was coming for their guns or they were just very afraid that a black man was president.

And that would embolden other people of color to think they can do stuff in the world. I have like a hundred guns now. I took everybody's guns. You took all of them? Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize. I have three with me right now. Yeah, your earrings look amazing. I know. Is that a lower

receiver for AR? And then I just want to talk about, so Trump spoke, obviously, and did a bunch of crazy calling out the left. Straight jazz. But one specific argument he made was amazing. He said, if we're going to outlaw guns

like so many people want to do Democrats and everyone's like, ah, yeah, fuck Democrats. He was like, we're going to have to outlaw immediately all vans and all trucks, which are now the new form of death for the maniac terrorists, which,

okay. First of all, I would be fine with that. But second of all, uh, if we just regulated guns as much as we regulate vans and trucks, that would be a huge step up in how much we regulate guns. Like if you had to get the deed from somebody when you purchased a gun and it was registered to the government and you also had to get a license and pass a test with an expert before you were able to use a gun? I mean, mine was at Sears.

Yeah, my expert fell asleep during my driver's test. Oh, no, I was going to say, yeah, I learned how to drive. Sears has a driving course. They do? Uh-huh, yeah. When I was like 16, learned how to drive outside of Sears in Dallas, Texas. Oh, really? Sears?

Damn, we didn't have shit like that growing up for my where did i learn how to drive just stealing my parents car when they were now um yeah let's let's outlaw vans and trucks and um airplanes and movie theaters and churches yeah okay then yeah okay then let's do that uh so we want to talk about This is America one more time just because I walked in this morning. Miles was still watching it. When I left last night, Miles was sitting in the same spot watching it.

I don't think Miles left. I think he's just been watching it over and over again. So you have analyzed this video like Bill Belichick. I mean, not to the point of some people who have written some really amazing think pieces on this video. But, yeah, like watching this video Sunday morning on the toilet hungover is much different than watching it eight times in a row, nine times in a row, sober, just with the light of day on your skin. I mean, this video, it's just so dense, and the commentary on it is so compelling. I mean, like, there's so much that you really take for granted in this video,

especially, like, even in the beginning, like, where people obviously have been drawing the Jim Crow imagery comparisons to when Donald, like, shoots the dude who's playing guitar in the very beginning. But even up to that point, like, his modulation from, like, this hyper-masculine aggressive facial expression to, like, like his modulation from like this hyper masculine, aggressive facial expression to like the sort of minstrel sort of contorted facial expressions to having the fun, like no pain black experience version where we are just dancing and everybody loves that version of the black experience. He's even doing that with his face prior to that

moment. There's so much going on in this video that I don't even know if I can really talk about it without its own show. But there are a couple of things that are really amazing because the way the video just set up symbolically is great. Like even with him just saying like, this is America. Don't catch you slipping now. Like there are moments where you are distracted that you are slipping because you are missing what's even happening in the background. There are moments when the chaos kicks off. There's a dude who just straight up dies, like jumps off. Maybe he's thrown off. Maybe he jumps off, comes off the railing and falls from above down on the ground.

There's another moment where because of like the cool meme dance choreography, which is sort of meant to sort of talk about the parts of black culture that from the outside people can kind of look at and be distracted by. Oh, look, it's fun. We can engage with this part of black culture that is actually distracting from everything that is happening beneath the surface and with that there's a rider on a pale horse that goes by like from the four horsemen of the populace but basically behold a pale horse yeah and then hades followed him if you watch at a certain point the thing that is proceeding it is a police car,

which has become the bane of existence for many people of color, and just many people in general when we talk about police brutality, but especially for people of color in this country. There's just so much going on. And just from watching Donald deal with having to modulate between, am I shucking and jiving for this white audience? Am I being real to myself? Is this the version of blackness that America can accept?

They can take the version when everybody is smiling and dancing, but when we start talking about what's fucking real, then people are like, ooh, I don't know about that part. And you can tell just with the way the video is, all this shit is happening around him. He can engage with it when he wants to, or he can be completely removed from it. And it's just such a great commentary, just this deep bit of inward reflection, introspection

that I'm just so grateful for this video. That's why I was watching it so much, because I'm like, man, this guy is communicating so much, even within four seconds, than most people can do in a fucking four-minute track. And that's just with like just a little bit of imagery. So, yeah, please watch it over and over again. Really look at it and really understand what, you know, the song is really saying about the state of America and even just the state of the black experience. And like, you know, a lot of people want to bring up Kanye and things. And I don't like that because I don't think they're they shouldn't be compared because they're not doing the same thing.

Yes, they are comparable in that they are creatives. but what they are doing with their art is completely different. What this video is really underlining is a lot of the performative aspects of even black culture, it carries a weight of everything that has preceded it, of all of the trauma that comes with it. trauma that comes with it and that's what makes the idea of these kind of achievements even more powerful because you juxtapose that with you know the historical context of the black experience in this country and the pain that's actually there but we can hide it and we can just be like no we can be funny and we can just be the cool black guy or whatever right and it deeply underlines too just like with when people want to bring up kanye know T.I. said that when he met with him Kanye had not even heard of the travel ban and was so removed from the day-to-day experience that to me that completely negates or there's no way that this is performance art this is pure ignorance and it's

like a selective engagement with history that has led this person to this point but that's why I feel like this video is so powerful because god I mean it's like a thing that i saw at first i took damn that video was hype like there was a lot going on i could feel there's commentary and then i look at it more and more and you begin to think what parts even for me as a person of color the expectation of me as a black man even like in high school of like oh i should act this way because this is the version of blackness that people accept or people expect and am i giving people that or am I not giving people that? And like there's this sort of just very deep subconscious effect of how this all works and the effect on even other people who engage with black culture selectively or, you know,

appropriate or whatever. But this is all part of the equation in this country. And yeah, the video has so much so much more going on than I even led people to believe yesterday. And I was like, yeah, it was dope. It was dope. It was dope. Cut to me like just fucking like sobbing, being like, God damn, like this is so good.

And I'm so grateful that we have people that are taking the time to make shit like this. I feel like it's such a commentary, especially on black entertainers as well, and athletes and everything that we've seen this year with social media and people having access to them to be like just shut up and shut up and dance shut up and dance and i remember i don't know who said it but when all that stuff was happening at espn somebody was and it stuck with me like all year that it was they were like espn wants brown faces not brown

minds yeah and i feel like that is america that they just want to absorb and be entertained by black artists and want them to forget about all their struggles that they've especially like whenever someone like Donald Glover's like, oh, you're rich now. You're rich. And it's like, yeah, you want to forget about all the years that he struggled and continue to struggle. So, yeah, I'm going to watch it. How many times have you watched it? I don't know, maybe 12 at this point. I'm going to beat you. I feel like I'm at 5 I was also doing a version

where it took me it took me like 30 minutes to watch the clip once cause I would just watch 4 second chunks and try and take everything in

and then keep going from there and there yeah and it's true it's just the same thing where you know the second you are actually

making it real you are bringing the black experience to light for people. They don't want to be reminded of that. Yeah. Yeah. They just want you to dance. Yeah.

And this video, again, it just shows you like, yeah, when he's doing all the cool dance moves, hitting the folks and all them other like, you know, big meme dances. People love that. People love that. But then look at everything else that's going on. Yeah. Great video. Great piece of art. Dani, it has been a pleasure having you.

Where can people find you? I'm at MsDaniFernandez, M-S-D-A-N-I-F-E-R-N-A-N-D-E-Z. I'm also a host here at HowStuffWorks, a Nerdificent. We have new episodes coming out every Tuesday, so come take a nerdy deep dive with us. Crap, I wanted to get one more 90. It's like going through the Matrix. Oh, hell yeah.

Red pill these people. Red pillow. We dropped off on our 90s references. I know. We'll have to build that into the show. Yeah, for sure. Miles, where can people find you? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey.

You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information in the episode that we talked about today. Miles, we also link off to the song that we ride out on. What is that going to be today?

I would like to draw people's attention back to an early attempt at woke rap, a track by Missy Elliott and Jay-Z called Wake Up from her This Is Not A Test album. This was more talking about going against the materialism of hip-hop, but I remember back in the day, I was like, yeah, man, this is kind of like, I'm waking up. Such a good album. Man, we was only scratching the surface. So yeah, this is Wake Up featuring Jay-Z and Missy Elliott. Missy Misdemeanor.

Missy Misdemeanor. All right, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you then. Bye. Yeah, turn the motherfuckin' music up Crazy Yeah, turn the motherfuckin' music up Motherfuckers better wake up

Stop sellin' crack to the black Hope you bought a spare for your flat Can't accept me talkin' real facts Down the hill like Jill and Jack. I speak what your weak mind lacks. You heard that? I'm creative to the fullest. What you talking about, Willis? Cause you talking never kill it. I hear but don't feel it. Thou ain't realest. You're just sweet meat in the village. Yeah, I'm a Don Diva, Don Neva. Y'all not seen her. He the squeeze into her wife wife beater Yep, I'm a top leader, I got the Martin Luther King fever I'ma feed you what your teacher need to preach you It's time to get serious, black people all areas Who gon' carry us, it ain't time to bury us Cause music be our first love, say I do, let's cherish it If you don't got a gun, it's alright

If you making legal money, it's alright If you gotta keep your clothes on, it's alright You ain't gotta sell your little phone, it's alright And your wills don't spin, it's alright, if you gotta keep your clothes on, it's alright, you ain't gotta sell your little phone, it's alright, and your wills don't spin, it's alright, and you gotta wear them jeans again, it's alright, yeah, if you try it, oh well, it's alright, MC stop the beef, let's sell, it's alright, hip hop better wake up, the better make up, some of y'all be faker than the dragon maker, got issues to take up, before we break up, like Electra, let go, Miss Anita Baker, I love Jacob, but jewelry won't fix my place up. Gotta stay up, studio nights to kick up. Now check my flavor. Rich folks is now my neighbors. I got cable, and

check out how I made my paper. Hip hop, don't stop, be my lifesaver. Like Kobe and Shaq if they left Lakers. And like an elevator DJ on a crossfader. Black people wake up or see your ass later. If you don't got a gun, it's alright If you're making legal money, it's alright If you gotta keep your clothes on, it's alright You ain't gotta sell your love phone, it's alright And your wills don't spin, it's alright And you gotta wear them jeans again, it's alright

Yeah, if you try it, oh well, it's alright MC, stop the beef, let's sell, it's alright I need rims that don't listen and a booming system First piece of change I see, I'm gon' get more 745, no license to drive I ain't even got a home, I guess I live in my ride, fuck it I can hear myself but I can't feel myself, I'ma feel myself like Tweet 745, no license to drive

I ain't even got a home, I guess I live in my ride, fuck it Couple carats and the ear won't hurt Need a nice chain I guess I live in my ride, fuck it Couple carrots in the air, won't hurt Need a nice chain laying on this thousand dollar shirt If these new jeans cover the rectum I kick games just like David Beckham Anybody in my way, I wet them I'ma be this way till the cops come catch em Till detectives sketch em on the sidewalk

And chalk New York's infections Till I got taught a lesson Couple niggas gone, couple ain't corrections Hemory got ten, Ty got fifteen Nigga, even my kin Got five years, bringin' nineteen in I just think I used to think like them Now they gotta live through the pictures that I send them in the pen

Hope you don't start your life where I end Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! If you don't got a gun, it's alright. If you're making legal money, it's alright. If you gotta keep your clothes on, it's alright. You ain't gotta sell your love phone, it's alright.

And your wills don't spin, it's alright. And you gotta wear them jeans again, it's alright. Yeah, if you try it, oh well, it's alright. MC's stop the beef, let's sell, it's alright. In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest. Because the company had promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The

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