The Daily Zeitgeist - Iron Zeit Tyson 4/21: Mike Tyson, CNN+, Rudy Giuliani, Supreme Court Ruling Against Puerto Rico, Gratuity Fatigue & Joel Embiid

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

On this edition of Trends, Jack and Miles discuss Mike Tyson punching a drunk passenger that was accosting him on a JetBlue flight, the shuttering of CNN+, Rudy Giuliani's appearance on The Masked Singer, the Supreme Court ruling that Puerto Ricans don't have constitutional rights to federal benefits, a New York Times article about 'gratuity fatigue,' Joel Embiid's game-winning 3-point buzzer beater in OT and Bill Simmons' freezing cold basketball takes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yep. Let's just get right into it. Mike Tyson beat up a passenger on an airplane. Have you watched the video? Yeah. Dude, did you see it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the video is very illuminating i would not i would not uh

take an opinion on this until you watch the video uh it's uh it starts off with like 45 seconds of the person who got beat up's friend filming him as he sits behind Mike Tyson and just is talking shit to him nonstop and then turning to camera and making the grossest asshole guy faces you've ever seen and being like

dude he is pissed bro and and then he said does he start calling him a peasant too I forget he starts saying some like I couldn't really hear what he was saying I could just like see uh who he was uh spoke so loudly

I couldn't hear what he was saying yeah yeah uh but I mean yeah all all of that to say that this after I think Mike Tyson was like a told him to chill yeah didn't heed that warning if mike tyson tells you to fucking chill don't and don't then say you know what i would like to now enter the find out phase right like you're not and look putting your hands

on somebody's never the answer but and i'm just saying'm not saying I would do this but you're fucking with Mike Tyson who professionally put his hands on people and now you want to test his patience on a fucking flight and you're just getting in his shit like that's you're honestly asking for it and that's why it's so funny that that video

hard cuts to him after he got the hands and he's just leaking and he's like doing this face he's like sticking out his bottom lip yeah oh yeah cuts to him after he got the hands and he's just leaking and he's like doing this face he's like he's very drunk that's also worth yeah oh yeah he's hammered and so I don't even know if he's like feeling the punches yet

and so he's just making like silly like sarcastic sad face yeah like he has he has some those weren't even good. Mike Tyson punches. He got punched in his face, but we were like,

you didn't get the, he knew his hands were registered weapons. Yeah, probably. So he's just like, let me give you some light smack. Also the, the bruising on the guy's head is very strange.

It looks like he got, uh, attacked by a cookie cutter shark. Like he has just like a circular, like he got, uh, attacked by a cookie cutter shark. Like he has just like a circular, like round of, uh, like red marks on like the backside of his head. So I'm not sure what,

yeah, Mike was wearing on his hands at the time. Who knows? Who knows? I, there is this thing though, where people, Mike Tyson loses his cool.

Not shut the, this guy's not losing his fucking cool that says local asshole kept testing somebody and found out what happens when you don't respect somebody when they say leave me the fuck alone yeah i mean grant yeah and granted shouldn't have gotten to that i hope he doesn't like get in trouble for this. And like how, how the fuck is, I guess it was jet blue. Cause I think the friend was like,

we're on jet blue. And this dude is like, yeah, Mike Tyson, the fucking goat. But how, I don't know. It does feel like somebody should help get this guy away from him.

It shouldn't be a situation where he just has to sit and be accosted by a stranger for five hours. There's probably a better way to deal with it. But anyways, fuck that guy. And CNN Plus. Let's move on to that. Rest in peace, CNN Plus. Fucking grand opening, grand closing. Grand opening, grand closing. CNN Plus, the streaming service that...

Just so you know, what you're reading is a headline from CNN. Now, know that that headline was written from CNN and then consider the tone of that line cnn plus the streaming service that was hyped as one of the most significant developments in the history of cnn history of cnn what the fuck uh will shut down on april 30th just one month after it launched so i mean this this feels like this headline was maybe written by somebody who disagreed with the decision. I mean, definitely like front-loading that

to be like, look at all the weight. It just collapsed from the most significant development because it's like you're just basically reporting. In the history of CNN. Sure. It will go down in museums, in history books. Absolutely. yeah it's uh they're 30 days uh and now like oh man the conservatives are loving it because chris wallace left fox news to

do cnn plus and so they're just see walking all over his grave right now like literally there's like you know gifs of like tucker carlson like laughing at a grave that says chris wallace um because he left he switched teams folks you know what happens why would cnn put chris wallace on cnn plus do we think i don't know this fucking it's just so these streaming shit is just, I don't know what their plans are. Clearly the new ownership is like, we cannot do this anymore. Like, this is a fucking mistake. I don't know why we did this. I don't know.

This is, the streaming, the stream wars are just, we're like at the, we're getting to the real fucking wacky part of it now. And, well, yeah, I'm glad to watch it all crumble. It's really just pay. So like no streaming, like news thing has really worked, right? Like there's not something that's like, capture the zeitgeist as a news,

uh, streaming video, uh, product. No, like no one's getting, no, no one's going to,

I feel like news still feels very traditionally set in broadcast television. And Twitter. It feels like Twitter could do something with this, since it is the only digital thing that people

go to for real-time shit. If CNN launched something on Twitter or something like that, I don't know, for for like go to for real time shit like if right cnn launched something on twitter or something like that i don't know but that's all bullshit who knows why anything succeeds or fails cnn and twitter brained simultaneously that's a fucking wild concoction i'll say that fox has their streaming thing that doesn't seem to, there's no evidence that anyone has ever watched it other than people trying to be like, let's see,

let's see what Fox's latest effort. Yeah. But anyways, uh, and then there's the, like a John Stewart show on Apple that hasn't really done very well. Um, the,

uh, John Oliver show is doing well, but that's like you know has its foundation like grounded and on hbo which is traditional um so in there and the main story always just does numbers on youtube so right like yeah yeah plenty of places for people to get their John Oliver. Right. Um, right. So anyways, uh, podcasting still King.

Uh, finally, you know, we've all been waiting for it anxiously, uh, on the edge of our seat. Uh, because we found out months ago that one of the masked singers in this season do they actually call

them seasons of the masked singer? Season 5 of the masked singer about to drop. Probably. But anyways, the latest season one of the mysterious masked singers would be Rudy Giuliani.

And we had heard that Ken Jeong was going to be pissed and walk off. So it finally went down. Rudy Giuliani popped out of a Jack in the Box lick thing and started singing Bad to the Bone. Sing talking? Talk singing? Yeah, Bad to the Bone. Bad to the Bone. Bad to the Bone. Bad to the Bone. Sing talking? Talk singing? Yeah, I was not singing. And yeah, full,

like almost as if it was a work of performance art. Just not even like trying to put a charismatic spin on it, just standing there and delivering, you know, there and delivering you know the straight Wong Wong vowels of the song without

any tone to it and Ken Jeong said I'm done walked off Jenny McCarthy fully compensated by dancing to it like it was the hottest shit that

has ever been dropped. She moved her body like a snake, Ma. She was getting snake charmed by old Rudy. That was fucking sad. Just dance. Also, because it's just such a fucking weird clip.

This fucking monster pops out of a box and then Ken Jeong's like, this is fucked. Apparently, I heard that they this is a rumor, but the audience reaction was also really unenthusiastic that they were supposedly cutting to old footage of audience reactions because everybody in that crowd was like, oh, what the fuck was that? because everybody in that crowd was like, yo, what the fuck was that? Yeah. A lot of the audience reaction did strike me as very much unlikely for any audience that wasn't at a Tucker Carlson deaf comedy jam

from like five years ago. That was the level of enthusiasm that they were getting if that is the case though if they cut enthusiastic reactions from previous performances into this one those people should be allowed to sue because they they are now no jack they signed a release come on man you know better than that but that is we got them we got their ass the second they walked in i'll do it assassination to read the fine print just being like yeah let me read the fine print rubes guess what you signed your likeness over in perpetuity across the universe even in media that is yet to be invented is usually what those how those fucking releases work so yeah you right now that that group of like uh asian people in the audience look like

they're the biggest rudy juliana i'm like yo that's that's who i'm like looking at till i'm like they don't want to be associated with this yeah we need an interview with them but anyway fuck that show and it's fuck any show that's like putting these disgusting people i mean just fucking kid stop putting celebrities on tv just show me webcams of people doing their work rather than that was that was that uh social media app that just kind of pings you randomly and you have to check in and be like, I'm working. Yeah. They're like, all right, post right now.

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So there's this whole case happened because a guy moved from New York back to Puerto Rico and he was still getting his SSI. So like, you know, his social security income, supplemental security income. And they were, he was told to pay it back. They're like,

no, no, no, you're in Puerto Rico. You can't have this money. This is this doesn't this isn't applicable. And that's sort of how this all happened to just sort of be like, can we please make it the law that like you can't just be getting SSI benefits if you're in Puerto Rico? And that's essentially what this decision did, because they were saying, no, this does not violate the Equal Protection Clause in the Constitution.

They were saying, no, this does not violate the Equal Protection Clause in the Constitution. The lone dissenter surprise is the only person who's Puerto Rican in the Supreme Court. Sonia Sotomayor, Justice Sotomayor was the lone dissenting opinion there. And it's you know, this is just a it's just so fucked up. Like we're talking about American citizens, but then it's like, no, but you don't got to fucking extend all these benefits. Plus, like we said earlier, when there was a orinkineers day, it's like, yeah, you you American. Well, we need bodies to fucking spill their blood in the name of fucking American imperialism. Yeah. You want a social safety net?

Fuck out of here. Yeah. That's straight up colonialism. Yeah. you want a social safety net fuck out of here yeah that's straight up colonialism yes so you know again just to keep the theme america help is not on the way never and i think it also you know and it continues this like very tortured discussion of like how the puerto rican people want to live what benefits they should have if they even want to be treated as a state, what, what is any of that going to mean?

Because all of the examples of living under, you know, American rule, like rule has been absolute nonsense. So we'll see. Some people are pointing to like Gorsuch may have like stealthily put like a potential that he would vote. Like if,

if this bill was, or if this case was like brought back in another capacity that he might have been more open to uh siding with uh you know puerto ricans or just like the people who would have but puerto rico would have been affected by a decision but i all i'm looking at is the decision and uh yeah so to my horror is the lone dissenting opinion let's let's talk about gratuity fatigue folks thank god oh boy i mean wait what is it i'm just like i like anything fatigue i'm gonna just say yes i'm tired of being grateful is that what i'm you yeah yeah uh so i'm just gonna read the first couple paragraphs of this piece from the New York Times. Last year, Anna Johnson found herself using an electronic screen to pay for a pickup order at a bakery in Phoenix, a normal enough experience that many food businesses she frequents.

But this time, she was bewildered when the machine recommended that she tip as much as 35% on cookies. I love your asshole New York Times voice. Yeah, that is who they are. Help sell it. Okay, go on. It just surprised me that they're asking everyone for that, said Ms. Johnson, 66. People can't afford to keep on paying more and more and more. And then the thesis paragraph, which is only a sentence long

tipping fatigue like ms johnson's is real and it is widespread so what that means uh miles it means that americans have been too kind to one another for too long um is i don't know the thesis here that um it sounds like they're right that it's saying that because of the pandemic people were more tip conscious especially as it related to someone like a food delivery or like a checkout or anyone you could tip but it just it's it's gone to the altruism the gratitude the the generosity has a limit just like our customers including some who have worked in the food service business said they felt uncomfortable with the many requests to tip and pressured into giving more um first of all, it's your choice. This is just saying, hey, this is an option for you to do.

If you don't have the money, that's understood. But at the same time, I don't know. Yeah, it sucks that we're in this system. Super producer Ian, before we start recording was like you know at the same time there are lots of countries that don't have this tipping culture uh that that might work better um but america has a tipping solution to health care like we we have GoFundMes for life-saving surgery or to bury our loved ones. So that's where we're at.

That's just the solution in America. And the fact that this is the social trend, the New York Times, rather than reporting on the systemic issues that put us in this situation, continues to be just a mouthpiece for the police to ignore the fuck out of social and economic inequality and injustice. And then they come through with, they're putting efforts into interviewing customers to ask if they feel like tipping is out of control. Yeah. That's how you get here. They didn't just get a tip from the tip desk.

Scientists have discovered this tipping fatigue uh trend they are they were like i'm at starbucks and they're asking me to tip 25 dang percent and then like that becomes that becomes the story right rather than like you're saying well look that's the the new york times they just need to change their subheading or their tagline to be the New York Times. Nothing systemic to see here, folks. Yeah. Just keep it moving. It's actually tipping fatigue.

The thing is, they can never fucking talk about massive inequality. It's not like people are having so much greed about being like, well, it's a pandemic. You better fucking tip me. No, it's not like that people are having so much greed about being like well it's a pandemic you better fucking tip me no it's it's a pandemic the fucking wages are stagnant i have no fucking medical support or uh insurance so i'm left alone in this fucked up hellscape please if you can find it in your heart if you may have a little bit more to give please find it in your heart, if you may have a little bit more to give, please find it in your heart to do that. But they're taking is like, what are they trying to do? Make me fucking feel bad.

Like, it's like weird. Like the energy from a lot of these, like that, that sort of like brew, like brewing underneath the surface. It's like, they want me to be in touch with how maybe my life may be comparatively a

little bit better because I'm the person in the, having the opportunity to tip or whatever it may be. But I don't know. New York Times. Really, really cool. Nailing it. Cool thing there with gratuity fatigue. What the fuck is that?

And also just the thing about other places where you don't tip. Those are countries where people, their lives are actually valued enough that you don't go broke because you're sick. It's not necessary. And also, we already talked about the historical roots of tipping as it relates to slavery, that we're only extended this version of wage slavery. And maybe look into that, New York Times. I don't know. And finally, there are rarely these times when something happens and there's not enough content on it for my taste. I'm like, look, I'm just like going to the Twitter latest section, just being like, I don't care who's talking about this. I'm just going to the uh twitter latest section just being like i don't care who's talking about this

i'm just gonna read it and then i'm gonna watch more highlights then i'm gonna read it uh joelle of my uh 76ers hit a game winning three uh he's seven foot one 300 pounds uh he's the size of shack and he has the most feathery light touch. And it is, if you're not, I try to keep my biases out of the show, but if you're not watching Joel Embiid, you should be watching it. It's very, it's fucking incredible. And okay, now I know how cynical you can get based on that. How are you feeling about even, like, do you feel bad about the second round because you said you never know you could do this and then the second round we're done first of all

good impression of me um yeah i do feel bad about the second round they haven't made it out of the second round okay i'm just making sure i don't know if this altered your feelings of confidence around it. My feelings, my judgment around the Sixers is so bad and so broken that it would almost be instructive for people to just hear how stupid my thinking is. I just said, yeah, I feel bad about it because I didn't want to jinx and because I felt bad about it to this point. And so I'm like, can't not,

I can't stop feeling bad about it because then they're going to start losing. Oh shit. You're you're fucked, man. Yeah. That's bad. Yeah. It's bad.

So yeah, you're down bad. Okay. So, so, um, well, I,

as a neutral, I thought it was great. You know, the, that the hitting a buzzer beater and the venue of a horrible nightmare for joelle and bead previously i think was nice i like that he was getting in drake's face telling him to get ready for the fucking sweep yeah um and drake was also like he dude he's like actually not really that cool because based on how he was like going back and

forth joelle andid he looked like a scared little fan guy who was like we'll see I was like dude he got your number just fucking just fade off into the back yep Celtics continue to beat the Nets which

is I wish I didn't care about that series as much as I did but I do and really want the Nets to win doesn't look like that's happening you know just keep an open heart Jack keep an open heart and open

mind and maybe good things will come you never know in my hunt for content where just other people being as excited as I was about the Embiid game, I made the mistake of going to The Ringer. And that is Bill Simmons's new media thing. Not new, I guess like six years old, but after Grantland was no longer a thing.

uh, after Grant land was no longer a thing. Um, and it's wild to see, like he had like four, like half assed tweets last night. Like one was just about like how, you know, well,

there, there were probably like 20 about the Celtics. I just like went through there, went through, ignored them. And then like his tweets on the sixers game which was like the exciting thing from the night in nba basketball we're all like doc rivers is like making bad mistakes he's like screwing up the side out of bounds and like the shot that mb hit was off of

a side out of bounds play and so he it was like just freezing cold takes galore from him. And but then like when you listen to ringer podcasts this morning, like they are only talking about Doc Rivers being like making them like they. It's weird. It's like a pro Bill Simmons, like propaganda machine where they're only allowed to acknowledge like the opinions he puts up on twitter i know this is very esoteric but it is interesting to see such a weird uh you know now he's i think close to a billionaire and uh i'm sure not getting a lot of pushback but like the that editorial staff man when he's on a podcast the super producer on a hose has talked about this before I think on the show but

they are doing the hardest laughs at the wackest observations like it's it's like they're blinking like torture in Morse code like the video versions of the podcast um yeah it sucks anyways yeah go sexers go Joel Embiid Morse code like the video versions of the podcast. Oof.

Yeah, it sucks. Anyways. Yeah. Go Sixers. Go Joel Embiid. Yeah, go on. Also, I think just again, seven footer hitting a buzzer beater three to win

in overtime. That's just cool. Yeah. Yeah. And then didn't like the second he let it go. I, you know, was confident and it's not like, you know,

somebody throw throw him one up in desperation. It goes. I'd hate to recommend this to you, but if you really if can he let it go i you know was confident and it's not like you know somebody throwing throwing one up in desperation it goes yeah i'd hate to recommend this to you but if you really if you're trying to go where all the people are going to you know uh bask in the glory of it it's the sixers subreddit because we're gonna get the most shit posty content around it all right i gotta go i it. All right. I got a good I got to go do that. Like right now. That's going to do it. Yep. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

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