The Daily Zeitgeist - Is Email Killing Us? Sneaker Resale Grift 3.3.21

Episode Date: March 3, 2021

In episode 823, Jack and Miles are joined by Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and Ridiculous History's Noel Brown to discuss a fifteen dollar minimum wage, the far-right platform Gab, the evil scam t...hat is anti-abortion crisis pregnancy centers, how tech is not making us more productive, Qanon doubting its own conspiracy theories, sneaker resellers, New York streets, and more!FOOTNOTES: Who is the Senate parliamentarian and why is she important? Liberals on fire over failure on $15 minimum wage We Need a $15 Minimum Wage, Not Excuses Far-Right Platform Gab Has Been Hacked—Including Private Data What “crisis pregnancy centers” really do Pennsylvania must stop funding anti-abortion programs We’re future OB-GYNs. Pa. needs to drop its support for ‘crisis pregnancy’ centers | Opinion Welcome to #ExposeFakeClinics Email and Slack Have Locked Us in a Productivity Paradox  What is the 'sovereign citizen' movement? QAnon followers newest conspiracy theory has them planning a Trump inauguration on March 4th: report QAnon Thinks Trump Will Become President Again on March 4 Nearly 5,000 National Guard troops to remain in Washington through mid-March due to concerns about QAnon chatter How Donald Trump’s Washington, D.C. Hotel Feeds QAnon’s March 4 Conspiracy Will Trump Reclaim the Presidency on March 4? QAnon Isn’t So Sure Trump Will Magically Become President Again on March 4 Nike Executive Leaves Following Report About Son’s Business What New York Could Do if It Took a Quarter of Its Roads Away From Cars WATCH: Konteks - Moonlit Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:55 It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 174 episode 3 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's wednesday march 3rd 2021 my name is jack o'Brien, a.k.a. A little bit of coal gas in my life. A little bit of coal gas by my side. A little bit of coal gas, all I need.
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Starting point is 00:02:54 fun of me for constantly referencing the British coal gas study. With a little lubega. And I am thrilled to be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I hate to do this to Daniel or Justin, but here we go. Work it, miles it, gray it, cite us higher, better, geister, longer, more than daily,
Starting point is 00:03:16 trending later, ever, after, blunt is over, smoke it, hit it, rip it, makes us higher, better, snacking stronger. Hit it, rip it, makes us higher, better, snacking, stronger. Thank you so much to Hank Scipio for that Daft Punk just related AKA. And maybe that'll be vocoded. I don't know. We'll see. Who's Daft Punk?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Daft Punk. That was a Kanye song. You know, I'm not going to lie. I don't know. But I hear they're cool. Why didn't you do that? I need you right now part from that that's a song that you were just saying from that mega uh yeah i mean and also guys uh if you do i feel like vocaling every any one of my songs ever uh much much appreciated it would be so funny it's like you know how stalin would
Starting point is 00:04:02 be like pedaleach phot Photoshop people out of shit? Like you start hiring ringers to just put the audio in and they're like, damn, Jack fucking sang Hallelujah and it made me cry. You guys don't worry about it. I'm just going to turn my video off here for a second while I do this, a.k.a. Mountain, do you hear the door open?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Mountain. I get an actual Rufus Wayne right well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious the talented
Starting point is 00:04:36 the brilliant Mr. Noel Brown RIP Daft Punk you guys even though they haven't made a record for like 10 years yeah I know but I you know even though they haven't made a record for like 10 years yeah I know
Starting point is 00:04:46 I guess they just occupied this rarefied air you notice people were like posting things as though they had died or they had been like dismantled or something like fucking Vision it's very weird I don't fully it's a spoiler for WandaVision not really no it's not
Starting point is 00:05:03 it's not it's a spoiler for the Marvel Universe at. Not really. No, it's not. It's not. It's a spoiler for the Marvel Universe at large. The Marvel Universe. Yeah, and I haven't seen those movies, and I don't even know how to put that together. We good. Yeah, I think it's true. It's not like they were prolific in the last few years. It's just they have hits. I get it.
Starting point is 00:05:20 They have hits. They did that weekend song, Starboy, and that was literally seven years ago. Right. They haven't really done anything. I mean,'ve made classic albums and i adore them and i love the whole scene they came from i think it's so crazy that uh daft punk phoenix and air all came from versailles they lived in like versailles in the you know shadow of the palace of versailles and ended up making this like dope crazy french disco and they all went to school together and they're all like equally famous oh they did they went to school together they're all like buddies they all grew up together i felt like phoenix is like slightly younger than the other
Starting point is 00:05:53 two but they're roughly maybe mentor age but like they definitely knew each other versailles is not a big place and then uh i mean if i don't know you've seen a lot of palaces i think versailles is pretty big the palace for sure oh oh right the township ah yes yes not as much also great cuban restaurant in los angeles versailles is yeah nice um i i also wonder how much of it is that when a band that is not associated with its actual public or, or like the person behind the mask, uh, hangs it up. Then it's like,
Starting point is 00:06:31 then it's like Superman dying in the Superman comics. It's like a big deal. Um, or, uh, you know, uh, just not to make another Marvel reference.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Right. I'm a real comic book nerd. You guys, Marvel, Superman. Exactly. Doggy, you nerd, you guys. Marvel reference? Superman. Exactly, doggie. You know how I do. That's a really good point.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It's almost like they were immortal in some way. And so to that end, why even make a big deal of it? Why not just kind of fade away? Why do they have to go, okay, we're done. It's over. Yeah, it would have been
Starting point is 00:07:03 maybe something powerful where there's articles being like, is Daft Punk still together? And then it's like been years and like, oh yeah, no, we stopped a long time ago. Yep. Yeah, I'm just doing my thing. See, I have no helmet on. So did they just make that a Starboy song or have they been producing a bunch of the weekend stuff? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It was just, that was like one collab. And they might have done some other under the fold kind of below beneath the fold kind of deep cut stuff but i don't really think so they did that tron movie i think it was before the weekend song they did like tron legacy the soundtrack for that and then that was a dope soundtrack though it's super dope and they put out like a like a expanded version of like all the you know outtakes or whatever and they made that at henson studios when a buddy of mine who lives in in la was working there and he would see them coming in you know they don't wear their helmets just walking around i was just talking about that another person who i knew was at henson who was talking about seeing them without their helmets on it's just so funny it was just a very
Starting point is 00:07:59 thing like yo they're at henson studios they're human beings right go work at henson studios if you want to have your childhood just demolished any because you're watching like big bird walk around without his head on and shit i'm sure right right right it's just it's have you ever been to henson studios i have not it's so like it you can tell like some people that work there have worked there since the beginning like because like the there's like a person who like works there who's like their desk is just surrounded like by like dark crystal props and stuff and they're like so kind and like they feel like you feel like you're on sesame street the way some of these people interact with you and shit and then then the like
Starting point is 00:08:38 loan out space to like you know struggling media companies who just want to be like yeah we're on the henson lot and then you have a very nervous meeting that you realize i did go to ilm once in san francisco and it's the same deal industrial light and magic where it's like you know you walk down the hall and there are these like the dusty ass slimer you know like uh rubber suit thing and like but it's like they don't really take care of it they've got all these like plates on the walls from like the kind of when they used to do matte paintings for like star wars backdrops and they're just like they're all painted on shower doors and like the person that gave us the tour explained like oh shower doors were available at this like hardware store next to where ilm used to be and
Starting point is 00:09:12 it was easier than ordering the real stuff and they're just like on the walls but they're all like covered in dust and stuff and doesn't seem like right really yeah see them with the reverence that like you or i would see them because like i was like that's from lab week whatever i'm calling stuff out and they're like oh yeah and i'm like that's from lab week whatever i'm calling stuff out and they're like oh yeah and i'm like it's criminally spider fucked with all the webs on it but i get it this is your office and like fuck it that's just some old shit we don't fuck with anymore but yeah spider fucked is a very uh specific condition that a lot a lot of my outdoor outdoor tools and furniture uh gets that i've heard put that way, but that needs to be immediately coined, trademarked, spider-fucked.
Starting point is 00:09:52 It's spider-fucked. All right, Noel, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We'll talk about that minimum wage hike. Where is it? Just that. We're going to talk about gab we're gonna talk about um whether tech is making us more productive uh we're gonna talk about uh the upcoming inauguration of the president uh on the 4th of march uh if you're not up on your q anon
Starting point is 00:10:22 game um oh okay yeah yeah the real inauguration uh what we saw was a fake inauguration for the if you're not up on your QAnon game. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The real inauguration. What we saw was a fake inauguration for the corporation that is America, but the real state that is America actually doesn't have its inauguration until the 4th, and that's when Donald Trump will finally accept office. So we'll talk about sneaker resellers,
Starting point is 00:10:43 specifically one who got his mom's fired, uh, from being in charge of Nike North America, uh, or not fired. He caused her to resign, but yeah. Uh, we'll talk about, uh, what New York city streets could look like in the future. Uh, all of that, plenty more. Uh, but first, Noel, we like to ask our guests guest what is something from your search history friend oh my gosh well i just typed in trump golden calf c-pack yeah it was for y'all's benefit for a little later in the uh in the episode if you don't know what that is uh i'll make sure to to discuss
Starting point is 00:11:17 it when uh when the time is right fuck i'll talk about it now if you are you covering c-pack have you talked to any about c-pack yeah we the golden calf, but we didn't talk about the literal prayer sesh. Okay, so you saw the bizarro statue with the giant golden calf wearing four shorts. But we didn't see what ended up with it. Okay, well, I just heard about this today, so you guys are way ahead of me. But that was my last search. What's the prayer sesh, Miles? Dude, the people, they prayed on it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Like, oh, in prayer. Like laid hands upon it and shit? Yes, the fucking religious people did the fucking thing we were joking about. Wow. Of being like, you're praying to a false golden idol. Right. Yeah. Is that just lost on them?
Starting point is 00:12:03 This is what I said. I think the only thing that makes, because it's so on the nose, right? That they are literally trying to provoke God into bringing the end times. I'm pretty sure that's what they think is going to happen. That's the only way, because that's what they're hell bent on.
Starting point is 00:12:17 They're like, well, moving the embassy, or like moving the embassy in Israel didn't do it. Fuck. What else you got to do? All right, I guess we'll pray to this golden idol. And maybe God will come down and smite us. I don't know. It just seems very imprecise.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I don't think they've thought this through fully. No. And I think at the end of the day, they're not actually religious people. They're just using religion as like the shield to obscure their racism and hatefulness. And that's all it is so i think maybe i think they don't even really know what what that all means in the context of christianity
Starting point is 00:12:50 but if anybody missed the uh golden calf it's trump in board shorts it looks like like we said it looks like a big boy uh statue like a bob's big boy statue it's not a holy sacred looking statue it looks like shit it looks like a funko toy or something like and and he's wearing flip-flops and yeah his top half his top half is just his suit and tie you know the too long tie i just don't understand it looks like a float from a retirement party or something. My retirement parties have floats. We go big. What is something you think is underrated, Noel? I think that laser pointers as cat toys are underrated.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And I have a very personal reason for this. I recently got a cat and she's really great. But in the morning, she likes to just get in full crouch pounce mode and just pounce violently on bare feet. So I literally am tiptoeing, tap dancing around my living room, trying to get from point A to B and not get just mauled. So I've started using the laser pointer to distract her and point it away, and then I can scurry into the kitchen
Starting point is 00:14:02 and do my shit and then use it again when I come back. So for me, it's literally like a lifesaver. But I also think I pose this question to y'all. Is it cruel doing this to a cat, knowing they will never catch this thing? Are they just like clean slate every time and they're okay with it and it's just fun for them? Or is it like maddening and driving them slowly insane? I'm no feline expert.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'll let Zeitgang weigh in on that, but I know my cats love it because I can get my cats panting like my dog with the laser pointer. You control their every move too. I mean, it's wild. And it's low energy playing because it's all my wrist.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And you know math, a little inch movement from 50 feet away is like a whole length of a fucking yard so i have do i have my cats doing up downs and shit running up the walls because it's great yeah tires them out and then they're chill and they're not screaming in the middle of the night like they normally do yeah so producer anahosnia uh resident cat spurt uh says it's good exercise for them so okay um. I have some experience with... So I had a dog that was basically a cat spirit in a dog body.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It would stretch out in the sun and lick its paws like a cat and just was a cat. And also had a thing where... I think we used a laser pointer with it, with him when he was young, and he really got into it. like when it, with him when he was young and he like really got into it, but then it like fucked with him. And for his whole life,
Starting point is 00:15:29 he was chasing like little glints of light, like around anytime they would come up and dark side of laser pointer. Yeah. And would like whimper and it really fucked with him, but he, you know, he had other issues coming in. I've talked before about,
Starting point is 00:15:43 he was like kind of suffered from depression. Got it. Yeah. So I think typically consensus is it's okay. Unless your cat is a dog. Got it. Right. What is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:15:59 I think I'm probably not super alone in this these days, but I think Jameseron has become painfully overrated uh i think i think terminator 2 is a perfect film and i actually just listened to an episode of the rewatchables um on the ringer and they dissected t2 in a way that i'd never really thought about i always just thought about it as this like tentpole movie from my childhood but it really is beat for beat a very intentional and well executed movie and it kind of knows exactly what it's doing but like who asked for four more avatar movies like 15 years after the original one came out uh when no one even remembers or cares about the original one
Starting point is 00:16:36 i mean it was like a theme park ride at best and now he's like you know putting all his eggs in that franchise and i kind of think it's going to fail miserably i don't know what you guys think i'm interested to see what happens but he's got like three or four of them planned and they're like all underwater and i'm sure they're gonna look fucking cool but i just yeah i don't see it they're underwater like uh they're losing money or they're underwater as they're physically underwater okay they have submerged yeah yeah i don't know i'm i'm not invested in that universe at all like the fun for me of avatar was more like look what we did with 3d y'all you're welcome and then no
Starting point is 00:17:11 one's done it better since and it was really epic and memorable for that and that alone to right but you're like savior nerd colonizer savior narratives aren't gonna play well in the year of our lords 2021 and beyond uh especially when people like yo isn't this fern gully also no this was fern gully like straight up dances with wolves it's like the last samurai i mean it's tired man yeah exactly but for me fern gully you know as i rank those films that you just mentioned i know the batty rap from fern gully almost by heart i had that on cassette when i was a kid and and I still recite it while drunk at parties occasionally. There you go.
Starting point is 00:17:48 A barrel of laughs. I liked Avatar a lot when I watched it. I am a serial underestimator of James Cameron. There has not been a James Cameron movie since I've been looking forward to them that I didn't talk about how it was going to be a complete debacle, like starting with Titanic.
Starting point is 00:18:09 That was a whole story about how he was losing so much money on that and it was a disaster and everybody fucking hated shooting it. Nobody wanted to be there. And it was famous for being a complete disaster before it came out. And then it became famous for being like the most successful movie of all time. Kind of the same thing with Avatar.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Avatar is weird because it is such a like it didn't. You're right that it didn't really have a cultural impact other than, you know, Jamie loftus's avatar culture uh that she's embraced i think it's i can't say didn't have a cultural impact because right people still want to go to a theme park and there were support groups for people who wanted to go back to pandora it's just weird how yeah it was just most movies like that have that sized cultural impact like then there is some follow through. There's something that happens afterwards. And Avatar, for some reason,
Starting point is 00:19:09 I just feel like as maybe because it's so, such a kind of insular world or like a completely closed off world that like it doesn't come up that often. And like you said, it was also telling a story that has been told a number of times uh of like white guy comes in and becomes uh like essentially goes native uh and that and then that like saves them um you know i have heard recently some like a chopper trap house, like had a like avatar appreciation episode where they were like talking about
Starting point is 00:19:48 how the politics were really like great and avatar. But I do feel like it's more of a, that is like a backlash to the backlash where it's like, this is the, it's silly of us to say this. I still really enjoy it like i just very specifically remember the physical sensation of my eyes being dried out from not wanting to blink while i was watching it like that it was huge yeah jack you banging down the doors for avatar avatar four i mean i'm gonna watch every single one of them in the theater.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And I am too. No question about it. In the theater? Hold up. We'll just see about that. Let's see. Right, right. I mean. But yeah, I mean, I think at the very least what we know is they don't go this far unless they have the marketing research to suggest they're going to make their money back.
Starting point is 00:20:41 So as much as we might not be interested or not, I as a tentpole event it may draw people in but yeah to the to the extent that the first one did i don't know i mean they do go this far sometimes like sometimes the john carter of mars or whatever that movie was that like they they went pretty damn far with that and then realized they were out over their skis. There are flops all the time, and especially there are flops when there's a filmmaker who has had a bunch of success and keeps just getting hit after hit after hit, and they just have that creative blank check,
Starting point is 00:21:21 and a staff of people who don't know how to tell them the truth then you come then you get something like the star wars prequels that uh you know are just a very specific failure of a single person's vision but they did well though i mean they made money yeah for sure for sure um it's just or you know any number of blank check uh robert zemeckis's later films uh well i am a cat have we talked about cats yeah cats yeah that guy had two huge hits and they were like all right he's the broadway guy give him yeah the weird one that like um yeah by the way i am somebody asked if i am a fan of the podcast blank check I am
Starting point is 00:22:08 I like that show a lot and they do a great job of documenting you know they'll do an entire series of like a filmmaker's career and you get to like watch as they go from like huge success to, you know, what comes next when they get the heat check, as it were. But anyways, that would be something I recommend, a blank check podcast over rewatchables. I have gone from rewatchables to blank check, I think. Cool. Check it out. You heard it here. All right, guys. Let's take a quick break, and we will be right back. When you think of Mexican culture,
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Starting point is 00:26:40 available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And let's talk about that $15 an hour minimum wage. Still way too low, but at least a step in the right direction and uh where are we at miles where are we where are we who are we where are we who won who won who won the election who is president who is vice president what did they all say on their way to wanting to be that joe biden's inner monologue hey who am i where am i where's the applesauce the one good c-pack one who's the boss where's my applesauce stupid anyway so yeah what does that even mean because they're it's all taking shots at his mental acuity yeah oh i see senility okay um so yeah the 2020 campaign joe biden he
Starting point is 00:27:43 was out here saying we're gonna we're gonna get the minimum wage up to 15 because I'm the guy who knows how to do government. Then cut to sorry, the parliamentarian said it's tricky. So we're going to cave. OK, now everyone's like, who the fuck is this parliamentarian? Essentially, the parliamentarian is this nonpartisan advisor on like the legislative process and protocol in terms of like how the senate works so they'll flag stuff or you'd be like well if you want to do this under budget reconciliation this might be a thing they kind of just vet what's happening to make sure everything's on track again it's an advisor and they're non-partisan they're just they're just they just nerd out on the rules to
Starting point is 00:28:24 let you know make sure things all going okay and i've never heard of them before once in my life neither uh definitely not when the republicans were in charge they weren't like well but the parliamentarian says the democrats might be mad yeah or what so here's the deal this whole thing about the wage hike they put it in uh you know we talked about budget reconciliation which is the way the republicans basically got every all this nasty shit done through a simple majority because it usually related to spending or taxes and that's how they were able to pass things on a majority the democrats are currently trying to use budget reconciliation as a way to get the stimulus package through and attach this federal wage hike of $15 for minimum wage. So the Senate
Starting point is 00:29:06 parliamentarian just said, okay, as I see it, this could be problematic in that potentially the Republicans could raise a point of order when they're voting on this to this specific bill or provision in the bill and potentially strip that out by raising a point of order. Now, what does that mean? So here's the other thing. This is just means potentially the Republicans could do that. But to understand what the parliamentarian's role is, first of all, the advice is non-binding. It's just advice. The presiding officer of the Senate is the ultimate decision maker and can ignore the parliamentarian, in which case would most likely be the vice president, Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:29:46 That's who would be it. Which was the pitch, right? The whole thing. She's going to be the tiebreaker. Everything's going to be good. We can do whatever we want. Tiebreak, tiebreak, tiebreak. If the minimum wage is in the COVID-19 bill and they want to raise a point of order, Kamala Harris could reject the point of order.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Boom. $15 an hour. Boom. 32 million people living under the poverty line would be helped and countless others but they are looking like the sheba dog meme with the two energies that this administration has 2020 campaign joe had his chest up oh saudi arabia the prior state yeah exactly yeah thank you for all the new y rap fans out there. Thank you. Exactly. Thank you, Dunny. As Mobb Deep would say, but like out there, 2020 camp, $15.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And then in office, like, well, I don't know, you know, the parliamentarians. So what the fuck is going on? The vice. So then they ask the administration what's going on. This is a quote from the Biden National Economic Council director, Brian Deese. The vice president's not going to weigh in the president and the vice president both respect the parliamentarian's decision and the process decision um yeah exactly that's harris ran in the primary on 15 minimum wage if you supported her in the primary you remember this most people will like she was getting a
Starting point is 00:31:04 lot of support because she was like yeah fucking $15 that makes sense on top of that but here's the deal joe mansion is a no on the $15 minimum wage so shit's already all fucked up but there are options to to figure this out rather than just saying that's the roadblock you could sort joe mansion out you could try and figure out if there are other republicans who realize yeah that's actually that that that'll help me in my whatever reelection bid. But again, another pebble on the scale to shift power to the fascists in 2022. Is this just dead? The debate's just.
Starting point is 00:31:35 No, it's not dead. They're just kind of figuring out, like, well, what do we do? I know, you know, Bernie Sanders said he's going to try and force a vote on this. said he's going to try and force a vote um on this but you know the other thing is like they could they could switch they could fire the parliamentarian because it's all about how they're they're interpreting the bird rule which is all wonky shit and you could just get another parliamentarian be like yeah i'm good with this but like the parliamentarian doesn't matter right like that's just advice they're getting no it's all optics it's just like the idea of like we're playing nice we're playing by the rules i mean exactly it's they don't want to they don't they want to play by the quote unquote
Starting point is 00:32:09 rules but like all the rules we're seeing in terms of voting on legislation seem to be just there to ensure minority rule or completely muck up the gears when people are trying to swiftly you know progress any kind of law or you know statute that's frustrating so frustrating yeah i mean it's and again like they're not treating it like a a fucking big deal and it's it's the progressives like the rashida talibs and uh aocs cory bush type people who are like what the fuck are you guys doing just and it's and to me it's no surprise that the younger members of the party are the ones who are the closest in understanding what the tensions are that are pulling on people financially in the country versus, you know, 20K freezer Nancy Pelosi with the Jenny's blowing out. what i i like please listen to them like they're not this isn't like some like weird ploy to make you look bad they're saying this these are the needs of the american people there's nothing there's nothing else to that right it's already a drop in the bucket i mean it's already not nearly
Starting point is 00:33:17 enough for like a living wage in cities like los angeles or in cities like new york it makes no sense that this is this hard to get through when there hasn't been a wage hike in what how many years decades right yeah yeah it's at seven seven so seven and 75 cents right now right what about cost of living increases like i mean that's like basic human shit yeah yeah it's definitely not keeping pace with anything else like in the economy. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I mean, if you just look at the way, even the rules that were fed from your early financial literacy, it's like, well, 50% of your annual income goes to housing or something like that, and 30 to discretionary expenses, 20 to savings, or maybe some people say don't spend more than a third on your income on rent. But that's hard fucking now. And when you look at what people need to be paid, like $15 an hour is a fucking joke. Right. It's very easy for, like, I mean, where there's a will, like, it's easy for me to say this but it's true it's been true throughout the history of american politics that like it you can play politics but or you can just be like
Starting point is 00:34:33 well they said no so like that's our if you if you don't actually want to get anything done it's very easy to do that and just pretend like it's somebody else's fault right but that or completely unacceptable i mean i know this as like somebody who like there's chores i want to get out of right and i'll be like damn if like one thing goes wrong i'm gonna use that as a reason to not do that shit when they ask why that didn't get done i'm like well you know i went to the store they didn't have the right gravel right so of course i'm gonna have to push that to another few days or whatever versus like okay well if you really wanted to push that to another few days or whatever. Versus like, okay, well, if you really wanted to do that shit, how come you didn't get it done?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Why are you making it hot? I'm lazy. Okay. You sound like my four-year-old when I'm trying to get him to repave the driveway. Prep the damn driveway. The gravel talk is going to be here in 10 minutes. All right. Let's talk about a couple of things happening on the right uh one is uh gab uh we we talked last week about how parlor is just a um they're having a hell of a time providing a
Starting point is 00:35:36 both gab and parlor having a hell of a time providing a competent alternative to the social media platforms that have banned uh nazis uh and it seems like there might be i don't know why they're so consistently bad like maybe it's there's an informal internet democracy going on where the fact that most of humanity hates fascists is is hurting the fascists but uh so we talked on monday's episode i think about how parlor was hacked stripped clean of all its data uh revived as a glitchy mess with no archive and basically rendered useless by uh not being usable on smartphones uh well now gab uh who i think a lot of people first heard of when they like live streamed just a mass shooting at uh the new zealand mosque they uh had 70 gigabytes of private post passwords and other data just downloaded and now being made available to
Starting point is 00:36:41 researchers journalists and social scientists so they're So this is not being like WikiLeaked where it's just like we're dumping it and anybody who wants it can exploit it. It's actually being specifically given to targeted people who will use it for good and for research. Not just for memes and lulls? Yeah, not just for memes and lulls, but it is interesting just how bad these platforms are at doing what they intend to. It seems like there's a sleeping giantization of most people have a conscience and are not happy that these platforms exist. And so you're able to, just through the fact that the vast majority of people
Starting point is 00:37:33 who know how to code and the vast majority of hackers are going to be on the side of common decency to fuck these people over. Yeah, I mean, it's almost like hate kind of fucks you up and you start missing a lot of stuff when you're so focused on giving your energy away to like taking shit away from other people yeah but hey i don't know i mean great great keep fucking up and you'll you'll people will always be able to track this shit and try and bring some accountability to them i mean yeah i mean this is i'm sure these are great resources for the researchers so i hope i mean i hope we get some something good out of it for sure do you think it's just because they have such a big target on them or are like republicans
Starting point is 00:38:21 just typically very bad with technology because you see this kind of stuff happen with campaigns a lot. I don't know. It just always struck me that the right isn't quite. That's not true, though. Trump used technology to great success. Yeah, yeah. It's just these breaches just seem like they are either just willfully ignorant or they think they're safe or they don't care or it just seems like you know with the with the parlor thing they were using like a trial version of octa the uh right three factor authentication thing and like it was just not even hard to hack you could barely even call it a hack
Starting point is 00:38:54 they just exploited like an obvious weakness in the platform and i think that sounds a lot like what happened here yeah i mean it sounds like they're using free trials and shit like i think that was a part of the parlor hack was that like their uh part of their software was written with like a free trial that expired or something yeah it's just i think this is partially like you know polite society being like well it's not good for us to have money invested in nazis uh we've we've learned that from history and therefore you know it's like partially the mainstream uh culture kind of working ah bezo sick yacht dude what is this yacht cost for billy he's like yeah man i went in on nazis bro invested heavily on that shit right all right real quick uh anti-sponsored content uh yeah yeah look out of here to crisis pregnancy centers whose ads were sir i'm sorry people had to hear that
Starting point is 00:39:54 shit yes uh we had an ad this is something that happens from time to time and trying to document fucker in 2021 united states is like drinking from a fire hose of shit. But one way a terrible right wing grift can guarantee that they'll get on our radar is by sneaking an ad onto our ad network. And that ad appearing on the Daily Zeitgeist. That's how we spent a year saying fuck fox news fuck rush limbaugh and fuck the coke brothers uh at the top of the episode uh and now we will add fuck crisis pregnancy centers to that list specifically real alternatives uh ran an ad on the daily zeitgeist uh this is just like i mean noel you understand this as a fellow podcaster this is just like, I mean, Noel, you understand this as a fellow podcaster.
Starting point is 00:40:45 This is just like there are some ads that just get filled in that we do not approve, have not. It's like an opt-in, opt-out, in totality thing per show, basically. Right. And then it takes us to here to be like, oh, no, we opt out from that. Yeah. But, you know, this is something that we have specifically asked not to have on our network, but that sometimes still sneaks through. And so this is, you know, anytime that happens, we do want to take a moment to kind of educate people about the shitty thing that ran an ad. So real quick summary of what crisis pregnancy
Starting point is 00:41:27 centers are. They disguise themselves as actual medical clinics while being staffed by volunteers with no medical training. The medical advice they give is shot through with misinformation about abortions and just about women's options when they are pregnant. It's purely ideologically driven to try to steer anyone who comes to them with a pregnancy away from abortion and just disguising that by. they claim they give false information about pain caused to the fetus and abortion. They give false information about depression being a symptom or something that's caused to a woman who has an abortion. They will even delay ultrasounds to make sure the mother hears a heartbeat because that's like the anti-choice equivalent of like propaganda
Starting point is 00:42:25 um yeah the heartbeat bill right right and people who got care at a facility were told uh that abortion is a liberal elite scheme uh trying to at black population control uh basically um so they do uh a lot of damage and uh fuck manipulative it's fucking evil the fact that you set up a scam like a prank show set where you have all this medical equipment around you to give the some semblance of legitimacy is so fucking cynical and fucked up yeah like it's just straight trash and you see billboards like when they the billboards are like worse it's like a confused pregnant person with their hand on their head it's like oh are you pregnant don't worry we're here to help and then they want to talk you out of just doing whatever you want to do with your own body um which is so fucked up so yeah eat a eat a pile
Starting point is 00:43:19 of shit when i read about it originally like from from this i'd never heard of it um it sounded to me like super culty like they're trying to like know, indoctrinate women or like get them to convert to Christianity or something. But it turns out it's also like it is that, but it's also like, you know, in terms of the data, it's a lot of people that are already going in that direction anyway. So I don't quite understand the point. Yeah, there's a study on it that says like it's a lot of preaching to the converted and like the people who take advantage of it usually were already planning on having uh uh giving birth to the child but that the study is a little bit limited in the sense that it uh it only sampled people who went to those clinics and then actually gave birth.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So it doesn't sample anybody who went to those clinics and then had an abortion. And either way, the existence of something like that is fucked up. And also, all you have to do is look at the advertising strategy of them and like the billboards miles. You're talking about the fact that they're like putting ads just like blasting ads across podcast networks to be like hey guys we're here to to help um you can go to www.exposefakeclinics.com uh to kind of learn more about about this practice but it's also taxpayer funded so yeah uh cold tea So yeah, Kulti, but also funded by you, your money. And he basically raises this overarching point that tech might not be might just be making us busier and not actually making us more productive. Right. No, I mean, it's it's who'd have thought for all the times you're like, yeah, man, because, look, we all see shit and we see a technological advancement.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Oh, wow. That makes that thing so much easier, actually. Thank you, technology. And he just kind of raising this point it's like we have to kind of stop defaulting to being like all tech makes working so much easier and collaborating easier and therefore will be more productive when the data does not support that uh at all he's talking about when the pc came out and began being worked or introduced into workplaces people were like wow this thing is great and it's making everything easier. But a lot of when they really started crunching the numbers as to what was happening, um,
Starting point is 00:45:53 like in these like major corporations with the introduction of computers, they were like, nah, there's, there's this kind of a disconnect between like what's easy and like what's effective. It seems to actually like it sort of rearranges people's time in a way that causes more issues. Like, so for example, they did a study like back in the late eighties and nineties about these five major corporations that were replacing their typing pools, like where people were the typists to get you your documents and shit with word processors, where people could like type on computers and get that shit, quote unquote, a lot easier or quicker.
Starting point is 00:46:25 But they found that the typing pool, all their work fell to the people whose work they were supporting as a typing pool, and then created a need for now more expensive, higher paid managers to keep the newly minted typists to keep churning out the work. So it really increased staffing costs by 15% with not even this, not a proportionate increase in output or productivity. So now the focus is being put on this for, so for this writer talking about, you know, Slack and email is kind of like this whole new thing where, you know, this is a quote from him says in 2005, just based on numerous studies found in 2005, we were sending and receiving 50 emails a day. In 2006, it jumps to 69.
Starting point is 00:47:10 By 2011, it was 90. Today, we send and receive an estimated 126 messages, checking our inboxes once every six minutes on average. So we're basically spending more time just talking about work and not having like the uninterrupted hours to do the work. So that's why they're like, what? We actually need to have a reckoning here because like Gmail is now even finishing our sentences, which seems convenient. But like, is that actually going to make me more efficient? And it'll just give you allow you to get to the next email quicker. allow you to get to the next email quicker. Right. So that you're, you know. Constantly distracted.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And I think the answer to this problem isn't easy, even as the author of the opinion piece says, it's not going to be easy, but we have to actually begin to slow down and begin to solve this issue because it's like this weird, this that's the productivity paradox, as it's called. Like we don't know how much it's actually helping
Starting point is 00:48:02 and points to like other industries where they have more of like a project, like project management protocols where teams spend less time talking what they're doing. And it's like check boxes and being like, these are my tasks. I have to get done. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. I'm done. I can check in when I'm done with my tasks versus like, hey, where's that test?
Starting point is 00:48:18 You know, there's checking in on this task and leave people to their own devices to just start work uninterrupted. But that only works for specific industries. And I think opinion piece raises the larger question of how are we going to ourselves try and solve this problem by taking a moment to look at these inefficiencies? Yeah. Giving us busy work that we can do efficiently while not making our overall productivity any higher and also not giving us like any way of any time to think about whether like the overall like philosophical and ethical implications of of what we're dealing with. Like in a world where the problem is that we keep observing the same social injustices over and over and over,
Starting point is 00:49:12 and nobody's ever doing anything about them. Like that, that feels super relevant that we're right. That we're, and like, just that I feel like this expands to social media too right yeah well i mean even the way you talk about too it's just sort of like what the pandemic offered people societally societally for a moment where shit slowed down very quickly and now we had in one
Starting point is 00:49:39 year increased class consciousness increased consciousness around white supremacy and things like that that i'm sure i mean like i don't think those things are unrelated like because we had the time to think to see to process versus like i gotta get this done i gotta i know that shit happened oh another unarmed person got killed but i gotta send these emails oh my boss hitting me up on slack i gotta get like yeah where do you find the time to say wow how do i solve like i'm seeing people who are hungry in my neighborhood like what am i how what what's going on how do how do we are there things i can put my energy towards on the flip side of that though that's probably how q anon started too you know people had this like gap they needed to fill you know and like like you know soccer moms at home clicking around on the internet looking for something to kind of validate their feelings you know and then that's
Starting point is 00:50:29 then they go start going down these like internet rabbit holes and i think that's how that picked up so much steam and got mainstreamed so quickly so i do think there's like a dark side to it as well oh yeah i don't think anything is absolutely good or bad but yeah i think but overall uh i think we're we would greatly benefit at least in the context of i mean shit you know we i'm glad people woke the fuck up even slightly but at what cost the other thing though with our workplaces now is how are we like we have to like kind of think about what this whole way of work like what our whole mode of working is and is it doesn't make sense to do this thing of like everyone is interconnected at the exact same time and we can start firing off messages to each other without overloading our own circuits and capacity to just
Starting point is 00:51:15 do like focused, you know, work, whatever our jobs are. Or even like all these like unnecessary zoom meetings about other meetings. And like you said, it's all just meta think kind of about talking about working instead of actually doing something. You have to like talk about it first and then kind of agree. And you could have just done all that in the first place or had it be like one email instead of a hour, you know, waste of time Zoom call. about even just like how certain activities in the beginning with like a computer were more efficient, but just, it creates more work, right? So like if you, if you're like, there was a, you were running a business instead of having an accountant update your ledgers that were on paper, a business owner is like, well, I got QuickBooks now. I got a spreadsheet now I can do this. And yes, they may be just a little bit worse than my account. Right. Exactly. Which is fine. I get it. It it might be easier than this paper book that you have to like work through but over like they're saying but practically business owners now just
Starting point is 00:52:10 have less time to do the other things that might be more important because they're like well since it's easier i can take this on and what we're doing is we're being like well that's easier i can take that i can take it on and then we're really we're becoming more and more unbalanced yeah i think this is part of the overall issue that like we'll be continuously documenting of just uh overall like kind of broad but invisible social issues that are giving us the a lot of the issues that we're having right now all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.
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Starting point is 00:54:46 It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey,
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Starting point is 00:57:09 But there are theories being propagated by the Sovereign Citizens, a loose movement of anti-government extremists who believe they are immune from the law. There are some really fun videos of these people they're getting they're called the fuck around and find out clip yes on youtube where you get to see them fuck around and find out in one uh very satisfying clip they're also uh started with like a 1970s super anti-semitic theory based around posse comitatus and yeah it's it's all, it all goes back to, you know, it all goes back to anti-Semitism or race. I don't want to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Uh, but so they believe, uh, March 4th is going to be Trump's, the, the real election because, uh, 1933 was the year when inaugurations were changed from March 4th to January
Starting point is 00:58:02 20th. Um, and in case you don't recognize 1933's importance, that was the year the FDR sold the U.S. citizens to foreign interests. I don't know if you knew that, but that happened. So Trump, the big piece of evidence they're pointing to, uh, that proves this is true is that, uh, Trump's DC hotel, uh, jacked up its rates by 180% for March 4th. Usually the least expensive room at Trump international is $476, but now it comes at $596 per night
Starting point is 00:58:46 on that night. By the way, just a fun little fact, the least expensive room at Trump International comes with a king-size bed with an opulent headboard topped with a gilded crown. Cool. Just to set the scene.
Starting point is 00:59:02 The reservations team from the hotel, I think Snopes did some reporting on this. Uh, and the reservations team was like, it could just be because so many people are trying to book a room that night because they believe this bullshit theory. Yeah. And it's,
Starting point is 00:59:18 we do supply and demand. What are they going to do? The QAnon community. I mean, like you can only kick the can down the road so much before there's no can or road to even do this with anymore. It's the moving of the goalposts. lot of people had of like trying to figure out what they start saying now like do we keep saying that we know what's going to happen do we not are we sure about this march 4th thing like for especially for the people who are peddling this bullshit because clearly they're worried too about like well i can't like i can't fuck up my uh my trustworthiness as a q it misinformation peddler
Starting point is 01:00:02 that like it's also there's divides within q anon to be like well i don't some people think it's march 4th i don't know right yeah yeah there was like a internal schism between people who at first said march 4th it was going down uh but then started backpedaling when they realized that literally nothing that they've been predicting has actually happened. And so they, you know, it's now a pattern among the smart Q people to be like, yeah, this is going down. It's March 4th. And then like right before that, be like, actually, we just got new intelligence and we're going to push that off to March 20th, I think.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Actually, I meant March 45th. And then go march for 45 oh and really that is april 14th oh my god like fuck um that actually made that's what it is march 45th tax day april 15th oh my god y'all you're actually makes so much sense uh yeah you should you should do this for a living um but other better conspiracy theories and these motherfuckers take years but they think that like they're also the people who are like we need to take things into our own hands and make this happen on march 4th so uh they're they have uh left i think 5 000 uh national guard troops in dc uh just to because there is so much chatter around this i mean there's always like like what does that look
Starting point is 01:01:36 like if this thing happens the way they're hoping they just like wheel him into town on like a golden chariot and like crown him or something like i, I mean, it's like some fucking Ghostbusters shit. It sounds like Zool or something. It's really, really sinister. The Scolari Brothers. Like, what the fuck? I mean, it really is fantastic. It's that like, it's like you would write it in your own way.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It's like you would write it in your own way. Joe Biden and Kamala will be in cuffs and they have to walk by President Trump as he salutes them flippantly. And we're going to love it. And then he's it's like, what the I don't know. I mean, but I guess that's how invested these people are in their like oppressive fantasy world. Yeah, that's their avatar. You know what I mean? Like this is their support group for going back to pandora baby um oh my god it's exhausting isn't it yeah i wonder what that overlap is from
Starting point is 01:02:35 the pandora support group people and like january 6th insurrectionists i mean they're definitely providing the same service to people. Right. Like, remember then, remember that time. Right. There is research that's suggesting that, like, most QAnon people, like, don't actually believe this stuff. It's, like, more of a, like, half-hearted. They read about it because it's, like, a fun story for them to believe in. But, like, they're not actually actually gonna do anything with their chest out so those are probably the the april 14th people yeah yeah but i mean at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:03:12 like even when they do like those polls it's like only seven percent of americans believe q and i you're like that's millions yeah people that's a lot of people that's a lot of people yeah let's talk about sneaker resellers uh this gentleman uh who goes by the name of what is it west coast street wear uh on instagram i think don't give him don't make him sound cool i think he's very cool miles he's a piece of shit reseller. I love just the built in hostility for this guy. OK, let me tell you something. As a fucking lifelong sneaker head. Yeah. As all sneaker has no.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Now the refrain is the game is all fucked up now. Yes. It used to be people fucked with sneaker because they wanted them some to collect, but mostly to wear because that was our way of expressing ourselves. Like, yo, I got these fresh kicks on or whatever. That's just that's our personal thing. And then resellers completely fucked the game up where these people try and buy large amounts of product to take away from people who want to wear them personally. who wear them personally, and then they resell them on your Ebays or your StockX or consignment stores for massive profits because sneaker culture has become much more popular that now coveted pairs of shoes are going for thousands and sometimes tens of thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Sort of like the ticket scalper is using bots and all of that. I mean, similar situation. And no different. Bots are being used for sneakers, like sneaker drops, where suddenly it used to be like you could line up outside of a footlocker and if you were there in the morning when they opened up you could get the shoe you wanted because you were there because you bothered to get up or you were online you bothered to refresh the footlocker or nike website and then you hit click and then the foot you were like yes okay i got my shit yeah but now shit it's like fucking locusts immediately devouring shit like the second
Starting point is 01:05:05 you try and load the page like sold out you're like how in the fuck did this happen well i will tell you how that happened yeah uh so yeah this was just uh if nothing else an interesting uh look at like how what you're describing happens for somebody who's like i only you know i'll try and get get the shoes when they drop every once in a while. Almost never am successful. And eventually, like, you know, spend too much money on the shoes on StockX or Goat. The reason for that, he... So this is just like a look at his day on a day that there's a big shoe drop.
Starting point is 01:05:46 The day these Yeezys were released, he'd woken at 3 a.m., signed on to the messaging platform Discord, gotten 15 members of a cook group, a term sneaker resellers use to describe basically people who work for them, to they all just get together, use code, code and buy up all the shoes which are supposed to only go to one customer by 6 a.m. the shoes were sold out and his bots had rung up one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars on his amx and then in almost as little time as it had taken him to buy them he had sold them for a twenty thousand dollar profit um so yeah wait where'd he get one hundred thirty two thousand dollars from uh so how does a
Starting point is 01:06:35 19 year old young man have so much capital so uh the reason this is making news yesterday is that this young man's mother turns out, and the article actually mentions this, is the head of North American operations for a small shoe wear company called Nike. Oh, I heard it was also on his mother's corporate amex that he was using wow to buy up shoes and also i heard that he was using his mother's discount to procure even more pairs from certain outlets right allegedly he he denied it. Right, right. Exactly. So she resigned. Yeah, she resigned. I'm genuinely not sure if she's leaving out of shame or because she's going to go run his business with him because she sees a market. Because the way they talk about this is like,
Starting point is 01:07:38 yeah, no, this is... I mean, this is... The thing that is eye-opening about this article is that they're like this is just what stock traders do every day like what this dude does uh they and that's always been my suspicion is that like the stock market is all about just finding these little inefficiencies making people pay just gaming a vast system to try and eke out like find a market make money off that market and not provide literally any value to anyone not to mention if you have access to one of those like bloomberg terminals or whatever which costs like a hundred thousand dollars a year or something insane you have access to or if you have this kind of insider information on you know the the sneaker situation yeah i mean it
Starting point is 01:08:29 makes sense and we're obviously moving toward this like everything is a commodity you know society like with things like you know bitcoin and cryptocurrency that literally represent nothing but are just bought and sold and traded and using all this energy and so i'm sorry i'm on a soapbox but it's just it's all kind of part and parcel of the same conundrum right yeah the big issues for me too are like one as a sneaker head specifically his mother's purview in his mother's purview was running the sneakers app which anyone who tries to buy hype sneakers knows nike only has one way to get this you go on this app you join a queue or a lottery system and you pray to the consumer gods that you will get a hype sneak most of the time you don't it's like a meme in the senior
Starting point is 01:09:20 community it's like yep took a l taking, taking another L this Saturday morning or whatever. And then to know that this guy's mother is running, I mean, like there's so many more questions I have because it's almost like someone at Nike was backdooring their own product out of sneakers to the resale market just to get, woo. Is this different and maybe less like galling to you that are more rather than like some of those boutique shops like on melrose that have like the these sneakers and plastic like
Starting point is 01:09:51 maybe like last year's you know it's the same thing they're just doing it's on consignment too like they're not selling it for the retail price if you're not selling shit for the retail price i'm angry uh and i get it but that's sometimes you have to go to these secondary markets to get the shoes or whatever all that to say a very small problem a very small minor problem overall for most people but like when you also look at the amounts of money that's being made it's just like it's it's again it's just a it's just a mirror reflection of america but we're just seeing it play out in this very specific way i mean the whole the whole so capitalism we we keep talking about is a system that is designed to uh preserve capital and like help people with capital maintain their capital that's not uh but like this is
Starting point is 01:10:42 illustrates sort of something that we're seeing with, like you said, Noel, the Bitcoin, the Top Shot, the digital trading cards. It's like value is being completely decoupled from reality. They're not providing any value. Shoes, I guess, are more than any of those other things, but it's just finding inefficiencies, squeezing money out market economy is like that it uses yet value and like demand and supply to like allocate things intelligently and we've just completely lost track of like that's that's gone and never coming back so like i don't want to hear that argument like when when people are trying to argue that like socialism is bad it's this this is not better than anything uh you can it's like health care it's like well how much can we get away with charging people the shit like
Starting point is 01:11:58 well shit if they're gonna pay it why are we gonna pay why are we gonna do it for less not to say that sneakers are the same as like life-saving insulin or something like that but it's the like with this resale market is like well how thirsty are you for this thing because that's how much it costs it's not what it's worth i'm just gonna prey on how desperate you are to even because daniel's in the chat right now yes on stock x dude there are ps5s there are video cards there's shit that is not even sneakers that people are like and yeah you're just being like okay well how bad is your fomo poppy i think it's interesting you bring up the healthcare because i mean it just it really is just about like a lack of empathy there's there in this system there's just no thinking of individuals it's just like i mean
Starting point is 01:12:40 this is all it almost sounds cliche to say out loud but it's like just profits over everything and you don't think about human beings and like, you know, in socialist countries or places where they have socialized healthcare, they do, or they, you know, subsidize artists and people that are choosing to live their lives in this way where they're providing this amazing thing for other people to enjoy. That's considered valuable. You know, their people are, their people are no better than our people they their people are not uh you know don't have more empathy it's just a system right they have a system
Starting point is 01:13:14 that takes that empathy and that like fundamental understanding that we will not allow somebody to die because they don't have enough money. And they take that as a baseline. Like that is what the entire system is built on. And we have a system where that is drilled out of it by billions of dollars of marketing and things that are designed to distract us from from uh our empathy you know anyway it's on site for this reseller i'm telling you that the sneaker community hates this little fucking guy because though i'm this is the other thing he he would post these images of like hundreds of boxes of like yeezys or jordans and the people post the people flex like this on instagram all the time these resellers
Starting point is 01:14:12 and you're like how the fuck does this person have this many pairs of shoes like it's impossible like you don't know enough people that are have enough addresses and when you start seeing these stories you're like of course it's someone who's fucking hooked up at this level um but yeah he was not like admitting to the author of this article like who his mom was but uh at the beginning of the article when he was still collaborating with them he was like if you know the right people here this is the city to sell shoes he lives in portland because his mom is the head of nike um north america the right people can give you access to stuff like that or to stuff that like a normal person would not have access to uh that's amazing that he was shrewd enough to be born to the head of nike north america
Starting point is 01:14:57 what a brilliant businessman wait but you know what how american you know what i mean using your parents connects to start fucking making your own nepotism is number one yeah and then not even being like ashamed of it it's like almost using that as another like sub flex within the like stacks of sneakers it's yeah it's everything like i got it and you don't right i mean that's the takeaway when the reporter was like so we know that your mom is the head of Nagy North America. He was like, you can't mention that in the article. And they were like, of course we're going to mention that. I'm just going to fuck up my cred as a sneaker pirate.
Starting point is 01:15:32 And so he then stopped cooperating with the article. And the thing is, that's not going to hurt his resale business. No, no, no, no, no. People are going to still buy, you know, people are still the hype. Because now it's global. And it's not just Americans that are paying out. Like it's all over the place. And yeah, it's cool. Let's, let's talk about something hopeful real quick.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Uh, New York city streets, 2.0, a, a vision, uh, that, that has been put out there. So New York City has been through a lot of changes since the pandemic, and we've talked a little bit about why change back if they converted miles and miles of road to just pedestrian and, you know, parking or not parking, dining areas and just like basically open source communal space. And somebody has kind of put together a plan where you would take one in every four of the city's
Starting point is 01:16:41 19,000 miles of driving lanes and 3 million free on-street parking spaces and open just 1,000 miles of pedestrian streets. Miles, you put this together. Well, it's just a good... It's a great... I mean, it's funny. Right now, there's a lot of people who... Especially in New York politics who are bringing this up as an issue for the city. There's local people who work for the municipality who are like, we should really think about making this permanent. There are people who are running for mayor who are making this part of their platform about taking the streets and being like, wasn't this great how we had, from being in our apartments, we said, hey, you can kind of walk outside and stretch your shit out and do what you got to do in the public space. So this group called Transportational Alternatives is saying, OK, 25% of the streets, if we modify
Starting point is 01:17:33 it for pedestrians, what can we do? So, yeah, Jack, you're saying a thousand miles of pedestrian streets is the first thing you would create. Then it could open one car free block for play, outdoor learning and pick up and drop off outside of each of the city's 1,700 public schools. Okay, great. I like that. Put every resident within a five-minute walk of 500 miles of bus lanes and 40 miles of busways and within a quarter mile of 500 miles of real bike lanes, protected from from cars bike lanes like legit bike lanes which is not necessarily the yeah it's not necessarily the case in new york city's uh current bike lanes
Starting point is 01:18:12 you're you're basically out there uh dodging and like bumping up again like trying to box out a taxi while you're riding and praying a door doesn't fly open in the middle of uh you know you're trying to get to where you got to go. And so, yeah, it would, it just does all these other things. They could potentially plant 15,000 new trees, the equivalent of adding almost an entire central park to the city's canopy. 38 million square feet for neighborhoods to allocate for whatever they want. You want to build a little, like a little soccer court for some street futsal? Cool.
Starting point is 01:18:44 You want to build a basketball, handball court street futsal cool you want to build a basketball handball court whatever the fuck garden whatever yeah yeah and then also it established hubs for street vendors benches trees public bathrooms bike charging outside of every one of the subway stations like there's when you think of like all these things that could happen it makes you really realize like the like how much we can actually use these kinds of public spaces. Because right now it's like, I know I have my house. I walk to and from on this sidewalk and then I go to my destination and everything in between is just kind of like something I pass through versus something that will add to my sense
Starting point is 01:19:16 of community. Because that's ultimately what the, one of the higher benefits of something like this. Yeah. I want to start highlighting more ideas like this that are like, we should not settle for anything less than this. We should not settle for... In Los Angeles, the same thing happens with the 1% has all these country clubs that are the best park space in Los Angeles that you have to pay $200,000 a year to access. Like it's- And our taxes are funding it. And our taxes fund it.
Starting point is 01:19:49 It's bonkers. And it's just like, there are these things that we just take as like, well, that's a given because that like are, if you just view them with fresh eyes make literally no sense they should not exist and we need to you know just realize that we can change these things we like the vast majority of people would benefit from changing these things uh and yeah there's uh so this is a overall movement in new york city if you live in new york city uh get on it like find a way to contribute uh and la let's let's do something about these fucking country clubs man i'm so pissed about the country clubs i remember like i had a friend who like whose backyard would look you could like
Starting point is 01:20:39 look into a country club and you're like it was the first time i had seen a country club i was like what the fuck is that you got a park and they're like oh it was the first time I had seen a country club. I was like, what the fuck is that? You got a park? And they're like, oh no, that's the Wilshire country club. This was somebody who's on my hockey team. His family was doing very well. And we had a team party there. And I'm like, they're like, oh yeah, you guys can go on the golf course to play bocce. And I'm like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? And I look in their back, like, I just thought it was someone else's yard. And then we hopped the fence and i'm like it's this whole fucking golf course right in this part of town i didn't know as a kid was here and you're like this place looks fucking magical yet again we're limiting the access to people who
Starting point is 01:21:15 you know really don't need it and don't deserve it uh cutting off our outdoor spaces to like children anybody you could fucking go work on your devil sticks so a bunch of rich guys can go there and like network and that that's literally you think they're spending two hundred thousand dollars a year because they love golf they're doing it because they know it's a good investment to you know make more money and it's like a yet another it's a literal like castle wall being put up by the 1%, uh, to allow them to do business where nobody else can access them. So fuck country clubs and,
Starting point is 01:21:53 uh, fuck New York, uh, city streets until they are all parks or at least, uh, the vast majority turn New York into, uh, I am legend. oh hell yeah mannequin parties in
Starting point is 01:22:09 every intersection yes thank you uh no it's been a pleasure having you always thanks for having me back where can people uh find you and follow you sure you can find me i'm pretty much just on instagram i'm at how now noel brown uh or you can listen to me on uh one or all of three podcasts that i'm on corporeally uh stuff they don't want you to know with ben bolin who's also a recurring guest on daily zeitgeist folks would know and matt frederick another amazing i heart executive producer and uh and podcast host and then i'm on a show called movie crush with chuck bryant from stuff you should know or we just kind of talk shit about movies
Starting point is 01:22:50 uh once a week and then i'm also on ridiculous history with ben bolin again who is like my official work wife so yeah all of those are everywhere you get podcasts uh and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying well i i wouldn't say enjoying but i think it's a really good point celeste ing who wrote little fires everywhere uh did a really nice hot take based on some things i think that trump jr said at cpac it's weird how it's cancellation in quotes when an artist's own trust wants to remove racist work it's no longer proud of right and that was in response to you know trump saying the muppets are canceled but it's literally just disney putting a little you know historical disclaimer saying we're aware that some of these jokes might not have aged well over time or like say the fact that like you can't get song of the
Starting point is 01:23:43 south on disney plus right yeah yeah uh miles where can people find you what's tweet you've Or like say the fact that like you can't get Song of the South on Disney Plus. Right. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Grey. Also the other podcast for 20 Day Fiance where Sophia and I are currently on a campaign to try and get Seth Rogen to come on the podcast ever since he interacted with one of Sophia's tweets. So support us as we endeavor for the Canadian stoner to grace his presence on that podcast ever since he interacted with one of Sophia's tweets. So support us as we endeavor for the Canadian stoner to grace his presence on that podcast.
Starting point is 01:24:08 You know, he's also an, he's a potter. He's really into pottery and making pottery. He throws, he throws them. He throws hard. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:18 A couple of the tweets I like one is from Catherine Spears, a former guest, a great, great food writer uh she tweeted i once dated a guy who had been dumped for will forte and he got really angry that i didn't think will forte was the hottest guy on snl um another one is from lindsey gibbs at linds sports l-i-n-Z-S-P-O-R-T-S, tweeting, Stop glamorizing, quote, the grind, and start glamorizing getting seven plus hours of sleep at night,
Starting point is 01:24:50 having healthy relationships, feeling safe at work, taking sick days, being paid a living wage, working hard when you're at work, boundaries, and self-caring your way to success. 100%. These are words that we do not use enough when talking about navigating our live work lives so yeah sleep healthy boundaries you know what i mean self-care
Starting point is 01:25:13 like not torturing yourself then telling yourself it's gonna be okay don't listen that voice in my head that's been riding with me since birth that's kind of been fucking with me um and then also reductress at reductress tweets quiz did your souls meet in a past life, or did you match on Hinge five years ago? Ha ha ha. Slow down. Oh, man. Yeah, the world is like a half memory now.
Starting point is 01:25:37 It's like, I know I fucking recognize that person. Where do I meet him? Hinge, five years ago, yeah. Right. How you doing? I'm married. Oh. Tight.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Tweet I enjoyed Michelle King tweeted all negative book reviews should end with despite all this it's pretty impressive that this person wrote a book. And I agree. You can find me on Twitter Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:26:02 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we recommend. What song is our recommendation today, Miles? Oh, man. You can check this on Spotify.
Starting point is 01:26:24 It's called Moonlit lit and it's by uh this producer context k-o-n-t-e-k-s uh you know uh just a big lo-fi kind of beat maker that i'm really enjoying if you're not following me on instagram you're missing my current musical beat journey because i just started making beats again and And if you check in, you can watch me cook, baby. So I'm loving this sample-based hip-hop. So more sample-based hip-hop from Context. Moonlit. Wonderful. Alright. We are going to
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