The Daily Zeitgeist - Is It Mueller Time? Space Jam Save Us 2.25.19

Episode Date: February 25, 2019

In episode 335, Miles and special guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by actor and Winnetka podcast host Jessica Harper to discuss Steve King planning to run again, Times Up CEO resigning over her son's misconduct, Space Jam 2, the Mueller report coming soon, Michael Cohen testifying soon, Roger Stone being told to shut up, Adam Schiff;s letter to Republicans, North Carolina getting a do-over election, reparations gaining popularity with democratic presidential candidates, Pinterest taking down anti-vaxer material, a man offering marijuana for fast food on Facebook, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Steve King: 'I have nothing to apologize for,' plans to run for re-election2. Time's Up CEO Resigned Because Her Son Was Accused of Sexual Misconduct3. 'Space Jam 2' will slam dunk into theaters in 20214. Original Space Jam website5. The Mueller Report Is Coming. Here’s What to Expect. 6. Michael Cohen to testify before House panel on Feb. 277. Judge Orders Roger Stone to Shut Up8. Adam Schiff: An open letter to my Republican colleagues9. North Carolina Is Getting A Do-Over Election10. 2020 Democrats Embrace Race-Conscious Policies, Including Reparations11. Pinterest Is Trying to Curb Anti-Vaxxer Misinformation12. Police: Local man's Facebook offer to trade marijuana wax for fast food lands him in jail13. Winnetka: A Memoir by Jessica Harper14. WATCH: Video Age - Pop Therapy Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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New episodes every Thursday. Well, hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 71, Episode 1 of the Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and maybe sometimes subconsciousness. It's Monday, February 25th, 2019. My name is Myles Gray, a.k.a. LayLadyGray. Okay, thank you so much for that short one from at Soltis Hannah for that one.

And I am pleased to be joined once again by my guest co-host for the last week, holding it down in Jack's absence, Ms. Jamie Loftus. Jamie, you know I have hectic boots. I want a code crypt loot. On site, but I could take down the world and that's an issue. I'm going to not read the rest. Wow. But that's a Soulja Boy inspired AKA. You're a big Soulja Boy fan?

No. Right. No. Yeah. And who blessed you with that AKA? Once again, it's at just TDZ AKA. It's really the go-to source. I know.

You came in and you were like, that account has really been a godsend. It really has. Yeah. And on this, the last day of, you know, Jack is going to be released from the woods, allowed back on the show. Right. So, thank you. Go out with a bang.

Yeah, really do. Well, we are pleased to be joined in studio by our guest today. I mean, how many hats can I say that this person wears? Right now or in the future? Author, composer, podcaster, icon Please welcome Jessica Harper Wow, I love icons Yes

I haven't called one of those lately Oh, well, hey, welcome, you are the icon I love it Jessica, how are you? I'm good, thank you Thanks for coming by Oh, I'm so happy to be here Oh, we're stoked to have you

And you got an Independent Spirit Award recently Yeah, no, oh yes, over the weekend Over the weekend, correct No big deal And you got an Independent Spirit Award recently. Yeah. Oh, yes. Over the weekend. Over the weekend. Correct. No big deal.

It was the Robert Altman Award for the best ensemble. Ensemble, right. For Suspiria. Yeah, for Suspiria, the latest Suspiria. Yes. Amazing. Well deserved. I won't ask you the tired question that I think I've seen you answer in every interview. It's like, what was it like doing the first one?

And now the second one. Okay. Or what's the difference in between? You're not going to ask me that question? I mean, do you have a boilerplate response? The boilerplate is, it was great both times. Did you like one over the other? No, but they were very, very different.

I'm sure, right? I loved both of them. I loved. I loved the first one because I was, A, because I was in Italy for four months. What's not to like about that? Right. Working with this brilliant director and learning to speak Italian and ending up in this iconic Speaking of Icons movies.

Thanks. Well deserved. Who knew was going to, over the next 40 years, morph into the so-called one of the greatest horror movies of all time. Right. And then I got to be in another Suspiria. Right. It just seemed like a miracle, the whole thing to me.

And then I got to work with Luca Guadagnino on the- Yeah, what's Luca like? He's incredible. He's incredible. Well, you know, you've seen- Yes. Others of his movies. Call Me By Your Name,

which particularly stands out in my mind right now. Right. And he's also a brilliant director, and he really just let it fly on this movie. Right. And even got Tom York to do some work, too. And got Tom York. So cool. I got to hang with Tom York in Venice.

How nice. Wow. Wait, that was... He was on site? He was... Yeah, well, this was at the Venice Film Festival. Oh, great. Okay.

So it was all like locks and riding around in boats, and I got to hang with Tom York. That was what most people who know me were the most impressed by that film. Oh, great. Okay. So it was all like Lux and riding around in boats and I got to hang with Tom York. That was what most people who know me were the most impressed by that film. Sure. We're like asking the planet, like, is he shy? Yeah. Is he gregarious? I need to know. Did he dance a lot?

Can you tell us a little more about your podcast as well? I'd love to. I'd love to brag on my podcast. So my podcast is called Winnetka. It's now an episode today. It's episode five. And it's a childhood memoir, actually. So, you know, and it took me three years to make it.

I interviewed my family members. So it's like, you know, a memoir that has the voices of the characters in the memoir speaking to you. And it also has a lot of original music in it. So it's very musical as well. And it's like, what happened when you grew up in Winnetka, Illinois in the 50s and 60s? Right. Okay. Well, let's talk about that a little bit later because I have so many questions about that.

Before we get to know you a little bit better, let's first talk about what we're going to be talking about. A little preview. It turns out that the Nazi congressman, Steve King, is not going anywhere. He said he's going to run again in 2020. We're going to talk about a little bit of controversy around the Time's Up CEO's resignation. Some good news about Space Jam, finally. Talk a little bit about the Mueller report. I know we haven't talked a lot about it, so we'll condense that all to catch everybody up to speed about what we know so far. Adam Schiff,

calling out his co-workers on the other side of the aisle and telling them to man the fuck up, if possible, as well as some other things good and dark, like any day dealing with the news. Really a mixed bag this week. Yeah, it really is uh but first jessica what is something from your search history that might reveal a little bit about who you are well i as it happens i was looking up uh i was googling the word sage do you know what that is like as if you're satisfied no like say shade sated? Oh, I'm thinking sated. Okay, sached. No, this is a much more sophisticated word.

How do you spell it? Okay, S-E-I-C-H-E. The reason I was looking it up was because there's a story in my podcast about a sache, and I had to confirm some facts because my brother was challenging me on these facts. Anyway, so I was looking it up last night. So here's what a sache is. Okay. fact. Anyway, so I was looking it up last night. So here's what a seiche is. So when I was like four years old in Winnetka, Illinois, we spent all our summers romping on the beach, right? We're

right on Lake Michigan. We go to the beach. We spent all the summers there in the water. Well, one day we were told to get the hell off the beach and go home and stay there for two days. We couldn't go near the beach. And we were told there was this giant wave that was going to sweep the beach. It's like a seiche. It's Lake Michigan's tepid version of a tsunami. Oh, wow. It's not like the one in Thailand. Right, right.

It's a little bit smaller because it's a lake. And if something scientific happens, I don't know what that is. I'm not Bill Nye. But what happened? So there was this giant wave that that that swept the beach it killed eight fishermen oh oh really oh my god yeah no serious no no serious business and then uh you know so a couple days later we're still little kids and we don't know what what the hell go down to the beach and it's covered with this incredible detritus like gnarly shit this green stuff and then there was a lampshade and then

there was and then i remember particularly there was this giant fish on the beach that was the size of my babysitter you know it was like we had a big round babysitter and i thought all these summers i've been swimming in the lake and this is monsters right anyway so that was what i was googling. Well, wow. And I'm confusing it with like food. I'm like, where are your seish? Yeah, you know seish, like you're full? Yeah.

No, it's a lake tsunami. Yeah, it's a lake tsunami. It sounds poetic. It's very cool. People don't know about it, though. They've never heard of a seish. Well, I'm glad. That's what we like to do is bring seish awareness on this show.

Yeah, it's my goal. Learning all the time. What is something you think is underrated? You know, I think the Midwest in general is underrated. There you go. People refer to that cluster of states as flyover states, right?

Like they fly from east to... They don't even look down from the plane. Don't even So I would like to encourage people to look down and notice actually what goes on. We have, I say we because I grew up there, we have good cheese. There's lots of good meat products, which I don't eat, but I'm glad to know they're there. There's like, look down from the plane, there's lakes and stuff.

And by the way, they have these state fairs where you can go and purchase deep fried ice cream. Oh, yeah. Deep fried ice cream is the thing. I grew up in California, so I obsess over Midwest state fair food. And on the show regularly, whenever like I'll comb like the local news or news websites for like Idaho or Iowa or whatever to see what's going on. And we talk about, we're like, okay, it's time for our like state fair food roundup because it's such a,

it's, it's its own place. And I love, I think people are very kind, at least the experiences I've had in like Nebraska and Iowa, like Ohio. They are really nice. Maybe a little racist,

but really. Yeah. Hey, look, they're not racist to my face. They're not without their flaws. Right. The Midwest is one of my favorite areas to perform in where when I started doing shows there, I was nervous because of the whole like flyover state mentality.

But like to this day, Fort Wayne, Indiana is like my favorite place to perform. Isn't that the place where the Airbnb, you and your Airbnb host became friends? Was that in Fort Wayne? Yeah, the guy who was like the president of Gays for Guns or whatever. It's just like you find the wildest, most interesting characters. They're like, I don't know. In Fort Wayne? In Fort Wayne.

They've got Gays for Guns? They've got Gays for Guns in Fort Wayne. They've got a great comedy club. Just all sorts of stuff I didn't know about. Awesome. That's great. I mean, we should just have GoFundMes for people to bring us out to their part of the Midwest. Yeah.

Show us around. Because I'm fascinated by it personally. Again, because I just grew up in L.A., I've always been like, I want to go to there. Yeah. I had such a coastal upbringing that it's cool and it's a part of the country I didn't know much about before I started traveling. It's full of cool, mysterious stuff. Like they have seiches there. Yeah.

Seiches. The seich hunters. That's right. And what is something you think is overrated? Well, given what just went down this weekend, I, but I mean, you know, the Oscarscars obviously but then on the other hand great show but on the other hand i feel like everybody already feels like the awards are overrated by makes them not actually overrated but so then i was thinking of maybe pot brownies are overrated well the reason i say that

is because of my personal experience because now everybody's so into pot edibles right and um i had two experiences with pot brownies that were just devastating oh really really so when i first started my career i was in like i was in the cast of Hair on Broadway. Okay. I know a lot of people right now don't even remember. So I'm going to tell you it was a big. Oh, I know. It was like. Seems like Pop Brownies were around.

The vinyl of Hair. Mine too. Mine too, yeah. Best. It was like the Hamilton of his day, right? Anyway, so one day, one night I'm doing the show and we're all starting to get ready to do the show. And it's Keith Carradine was starring in the show at that point. Wow.

Yeah. This was a long time ago. And he comes to the stage, and he says, I've got a snack for everybody, and he starts handing around these brownies. And I'm so stupid. I just came out of Winnetka, Illinois. I don't know. Literally, I was –

You think you're just – you're like, oh, great, a brownie house kind of a brownie house kind of you like so nice of you to do the baking keith right so keith starts passing oh that's really good can i have another one keith anyway everybody had them right and but and they were so power you know in those days actually they were hash brownies right right is hashish still a thing yeah well you know it's it around, but it's slowly being phased out, I think, by modern stoners with a more, even more potent,

concentrated form of weed. Right. So, yeah, like, yeah, I mean, Europe is still big, you know? Love hash in Europe. Well, that was the other time

I had the hash brownies. I'm a cop. I don't know anything. I'm so bad at... Thank you. I'm glad you didn't entrap me. No, no, I'm just, I'm just bad at weed culture. I also can't handle edibles. I can't know anything. I'm so bad at- Thank you. I'm glad you didn't entrap me. No, no. I'm just bad at weed culture.

I also can't handle edibles. I can't. Well, we all lost our mind. Right. Everybody in the cast of Hair was tripping. Right. Wow. And we started singing Aquarius, and everybody was hallucinating on the stage.

People have their backs to the audience, like, turn around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So was it a disastrous production or was it more just like nerve-wracking for the people on stage it was nerve-wracking because you know it was like the stage was tilting you know right the ultimate trip bad trip and uh so it was nerve-wracking for us i think the audience had absolutely no idea because they were watching hair i mean everybody was supposed to be stoned right no one's like sober it's just a new level of realism yeah like art imitating life or whatever well yeah i think in in a certain way i whenever i've even made like a brownie it's always been too strong

yeah and i've never and i'm just not good at like regulating or moderating so i would just eat like a piece i'm like yeah this should be. Cut to me asleep in a movie theater. And like one of the people working like after is like the movie's over. And I'm like, oh, okay. And it's not enjoyable. My depth perception gets very bad. And then I like the only,

I've only done it like two times, but both times there was an issue of like, you're standing very close to me or like, why are you standing three feet away? You're like, hi. Can't do it. And finally, what's a myth that you want to bust? Oh, a myth.

What some people get wrong. Okay, here's a myth that has been so widely promoted that even Stephen Sondheim wrote a song about this myth and even named that musical after it, Anyone Can Whistle. Ooh. Now, musical after it. Anyone can whistle. Ooh. Ooh. Now, I am here to debunk that myth right on your show.

I can prove that that's not true. That you cannot whistle. All right. Here's my whistle. Do you hear anything there? I mean, even if I was being generous. Oh, there's a whisper. Wait, there's a little bit of a...

I cannot... I think it's the tongue. You know, that's... There's steps, you know, the air flows one. And I mean, I feel like everyone has the physical capability. But can everyone inherently whistle? I don't know. I think it's a...

Was that something you've aspired to do in your career yes actually well mostly it was a dog related thing i was trying to oh right summon my golden retriever i can't do the fingers in your mouth whistle no no that's too advanced that one i would always like my dad used to act like he could do it and would just spit all over the place like really be like like i remember being at the dog park and he would try and whistle for our dog growing up. And he would like do this thing with his fingers that didn't look to me like how I had seen other people use their fingers to whistle.

I appreciate that commitment. Right. But it wasn't even a whistle, but he would, I don't know. I just remember very vividly looking at that. And that kept me away from ever trying to attempt that kind of whistle. Oh, yeah. I haven't even gotten to step to attempt that kind of whistle. Oh, yeah, I know. I haven't even gotten to step one yet, the basic whistle. Then you move on to that one, which I aspire to, because I just think it's cool.

And then you just start doing, like, effects, like tractor beam. There you go. The people who... Yes, listen to you. You know that one? Okay. You're good at it. Oh, my God.

What? Oh, yeah, the water drop. My favorite and least favorite thing that you know how to do. Wait. Oh, my God. Yeah, this is me in high school, yeah. The water drop? That's my favorite and least favorite thing that you know how to do. Wait. Oh, my God. Yeah. This is me in high school literally not paying attention to, you know, grammar as I just try and master the art of the water droplet sound in my mouth.

Yeah. So I have a lot of free time. Oh, damn. Even now. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's get into- You're still using the skill.

Yeah, I am. I am. Just to make you uncomfortable. All right. Let's get using the skill. Yeah, I am. I am. Just to make you uncomfortable. All right, let's get into the news. So Steve King, our favorite Nazi racist taint scab from Iowa, has just basically unequivocally been like, I'm sorry. I didn't do anything wrong. So I see no reason for me to not run again for office in 2020.

Very brave of him. Very, very brave of him. Can't stop, won't stop. Yeah, exactly. And in that way, we commend you, Steve King. But in another way, you know, fuck off. But in an interview on Iowa Public Television, he basically said, let me just read this quote.

He said, I have nothing to apologize for. Each thing starts out with some formally credible organization that launches this, and then we have this phenomenon that America's not ready for, and that's this cyber then we have this phenomenon that america's not ready for and that's this cyber bullying that unleashes that's there creating a firestorm so he's a victim of cyber bullying i'm not sure how he saw that but i don't anyone he's he i wish like even his spin game isn't that strong he just is saying oh, what are some buzzwords that I've heard? Cyber bullying.

It was that. That's what, yeah. Well, yeah, and even before, his tactic is just to basically act as if whatever he said is not offensive. And his base will follow whatever he says. It's just so wild when people who are cyber bullies get into a thing, a snit about cyber bullying. Right. Witness our president. Right. Yeah. Witness our president.

Right. I read this thing recently. I forget which author it was, but she's a teacher, and she played Dumbo for a group of, like, sixth graders. And she's like, well, no matter the bullies in the class and the good kids in the class and everyone in the class identifies themselves with Dumbo. Like, no bully will ever identify themselves as the bully in the story. They're like, you know what I mean?

Oh, weird. So it's just like, you know, you're always going to be the victim of your own narrative. Well, I think I don't. Very big ears. I'm trying to think of anyone who actually embraces the fact that they're a bully. I think Marcella Arguello is probably the only person I know. But that's part of her bit. But she's the woke bully.

Yeah, exactly. She bullies for good. Yeah, bullies for the little guy. But yeah, okay, well good luck with that. I mean, like, the governors basically distanced themselves, like we cannot endorse this person. So we'll see what happens there. Okay, and next a bit of a Mengazi update.

Mengazi,. Mengazi. As we call it around here. Jamie, what's going on? So I know that the only headline I saw was that the Time's Up CEO had resigned because her son, something's going on with her son. Yeah. This is a story that I'm sure will continue developing. It doesn't seem like all the particulars of the story are quite out yet. Particulars of the story are quite out yet. But Lisa Borders, who is the CEO of Time's Up, resigned this week to attend to, quote, family concerns that require my singular focus.

So basically what that boils down to is her son, who is a 36-year-old masseuse Reiki instructor, was accused of sexual misconduct by one of his clients. And I won't get into the details here, but it is, I mean, it did not sound like a good situation at all. It sounds like he, you know, in all the ways you think a masseuse could violate. Right. When you're completely exposed to somebody and vulnerable. Yeah, exactly. In a captive state. So there was a victim who reported an incident to the Santa Monica Police Department

on Wednesday. Lisa Borders, it seems like she hasn't released a formal statement, you know, detailing it, but it seems like she was supporting her son. And so it was no longer appropriate for her to be the head of an organization like Time's Up, which, you know, the objective is to make things like that not happen and not defend the people who are allegedly doing it. Right. So that's what people have been saying. She hasn't announced that formally, but someone close to the situation said Lisa's decision to step down was the right one for her and for the organization as well. So that story may continue to develop, but it's just, that's just not.

As this movement continues, you start to see like all the shades of, the shades of gray. For lack of a better term. For lack of a better term, Miles Gray. Thank you, Miles Gray. But yeah, it was a disappointing story. I appreciate that she at least had the wherewithal to know that you can't be the head of an organization and cop for it at the same time. Maybe she has more specifics that she'll come out with later. We don't know.

Okay. But that's what's going on. Well, let's bring the mood up for a second. All right. Because, I mean, it's been a long time since I was happy. If I can be specific, it was 1996. And a little, you know, live animated film known as Space Jam had come out. And ever since, I've been trying to find a way for me and Lola Bunny to ride off into the sunset together.

But more importantly, I need my Space Jam. And a while back, we were teased with the idea that LeBron James would be the Michael Jordan of the new one. And going back and forth, we didn't know what was going on. Nothing had been fully cemented. But now we know. It's 2021. The Space Jam is back. It's awesome.

I really don't have much else to say about this, except, okay, great. Buy tickets now. Jessica, were you a fan of Michael Jordan's work in the original Space Jam? You know, I have to admit that in 96, I was busy with my children who were not of an age to see Space Jam. I missed a whole decade. Oh, no. Jessica, you must.

All I saw during the 90s were those Disney, you know, the Little Mermaid, about 150. Sure, sure. Those videos that kept my children busy for 10 years. With the foam cover. Like, why are all those Disney VHS tapes have, like, maybe it was just child proof? Super enforced, yeah. I think that's what it was. So, like, if it dropped on a child's head, it wouldn't be damaging.

Versus, like, the cardboard sleeve that VHS tapes used to come in. One child couldn't kill another child with a VHS. Although I did get a cut from the – anyway, that's – They were sharp. They were sharp. But that's on another podcast called Grievances with Disney Videobass. So, yeah. I mean, I'd imagine there'll be some of the same characters.

I don't think the Looney Tunes universe has expanded too much. I don't think so. Besides that one movie they did with Brendan Fraser 15 years ago. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Looney Tunes back in expanded too much? I don't think so. Besides that one movie they did with Brendan Fraser 15 years ago. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Looney Tunes back in action? That's right. That movie got a bad rap, but I thought it was fun.

You mean because it was just panned by every critic? I was, well, I don't know. I was like nine when it came out. I was like, looks like cartoons to me. I'm on board. What's the problem here? What's the problem? Yeah.

Right. There was just no depth to Brendan Fraser's performance. No, where was the depth? I love Brendan Fraser. But there was depth in Space Jam. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes.

I mean, especially when I believe Bugs Bunny was flattened, quite literally. He gained depth and become three-dimensional. So, yes, I'm right with you on that one. Just a quick bonus. If you didn't know, the original Space Jam website is still on the internet. In all its HTML glory. Yeah, so if you want to take a time capsule to the year 1996, we'll have the link in the footnotes at the end of the show.

But please, I mean, it's so funny because I've never seen something more, yeah, just like retro. Oh, yeah, I saw that. There's Behind the Jam. They have links to, obviously, merch. There's Pressbox. The Pressbox shuttle. No Space Jam news at the moment.

We'll just check it out again later. All right, well. Is it kind of the best thing that happened in the 90s, maybe? I can't even remember the 90s. I mean, it was a highlight for a lot of people. Space Jam? Yeah, like what else happened in the 90s maybe i'm trying i can't even remember i mean it was a highlight for a lot of space jam yeah like what else yeah i mean unless we're just like like comedies that don't age well and other things that don't age a lot of things just didn't age well in the 90s yeah i'm including me there's a there's a we have to do a bechdel cast episode about space jam because i'm sure

there's some lola bunny stuff that's uh perhaps do you think she might be a little bit sexualized? Oh, believe me. Hard to know. I mean, like... There was a million little boys, like, jerking off to a cartoon rabbit, which, you know, happens. There have been other cartoon rabbits. So what about... What's her name? Roger Rabbit? Jessica Rabbit. Was she a rabbit? She was a human. No, she was... Oh, right. She was married to a cartoon rabbit. Oh, she was a human married to a rabbit. She married into the rabbit family. Confusing. Why wouldn't she be married to a rabbit?

Right. I mean, progressive, honestly. Yes, very much. Very much so. Interspecies, marriage, I'm all for it. The last thing on that, there was a great on-internet video called Space Jam 2 that Josh Fadum released a couple years ago that is now being eclipsed by this Space Jam 2 news. And I just want to recommend everyone go back and watch Josh Fadum's Space Jam 2.

F-A-D-E-M Space Jam 2. The animation is from another dimension. It is fully done in Microsoft Paint. Okay, I was going to troll people and be like, that's into Avatar. Has there been anything? But yes, it's all Microsoft paint. It's, it's such a great video.

Everyone should check it out. Also, there's a Yahoo one where they treat that game between the, uh, tune squad and the monsters as an actual sporting event with like real ESPN pundits being like, I remember that game. I mean,

the fouls, the monsters were committing. I'd never seen before. It's like the most dry mockumentary. So check that out. All right, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia

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It could have even been dropped by the time. I mean, as of this recording has not been released or submitted, at least to the DOJ. But a lot of people feel that it is very imminent. He's like the Beyonce of DC right now. They're like, could drop whenever. We don't know. We don't know. Could surprise you with an album.

Do you think he'll release a video album? I hope. It's a concept. Mueller's Lemonade. It's a concept report about the Russia probe. It's like a high art where there's only like three videos in existence and you can watch in public space. But anyway, there's many things sort of swirling around this imminent submission of the report. I mean, some people say it might not be in the next couple of weeks.

Other people point to different timelines. But just to put things into perspective, Michael Cohen is finally going to be testifying in front of the Senate and House committees this week. On Tuesday, it's a closed session. Wednesday will be an open session, followed by another closed session on Thursday. If you need a little refresher on what Michael Cohen is in trouble for, let's remember there was campaign finance violations when he was giving hush payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. You know, he lied to Congress about a bunch of this stuff. Classic. In addition to pursuing a Trump Tower Moscow deal

very, very deep into the election when, you know, Donald Trump was claiming up and down, oh, I don't know Russia. I don't even know Russia. Where is Russia? What is Russia? Explain Russia to me. I've heard of Prussia, but I don't think that exists anymore. So many people have the same litany of crimes. It gets very confusing. Yeah, exactly.

How does Mueller shift through all this stuff? Luckily, he has a team of people, which is what another thing that people point to that it's winding down is that a lot of the people, you know, he was slowly sort of closing different or he was slowly like wrapping, for lack of a better word. I'll use a production term. Some of the people on his team who are like the prosecutors and investigators he had brought on for the investigation. They're beginning to report back to their old bosses and saying, I'll be back to work pretty soon. That's a good sign. That's a sign.

Another one, you know, the DOJ people, Matt Whitaker, if you want to believe Attorney General Dick Toilet, as we call him, the man who patented the terrible toilet. I'm sorry, yes, Dick Toilet Esquire. Show some respect. Saying that it would be over soon. And as well as like Rod Rosenstein, you know, he's leaving, I think, in mid-March. And that was contingent on him seeing out the Mueller investigation.

So I have a feeling that I think mid-March is probably the latest it'll probably be. For the sake of everyone's sanity, I hope it's almost over. But then what happens when Barr gets his hands? Then does he stay? So that's almost over. But then what happens when Barr gets his hands? Then does he stay? So that's the thing. I mean, you know, I think for people like us in the general public, we probably won't know much for a while. But it all depends, right? So William Barr, who's now the attorney general, has said that he's going to act within Department of Justice norms and guidelines regarding reports like this, which means if he really stuck to the letter of the law, all he's obligated to do is tell Congress, Mueller gave me the report. Right. And that's that. Right. And he doesn't even have to

share with them. People are going to make such a stink. Right. So that's that doesn't seem very feasible. They'll probably be some kind of I'm sure he'll definitely report to Congress, but they might not be able to say anything. There is a way where Robert Mueller could also file a report that doesn't have any classified or sensitive information with redactions. That's more of like a very general 10,000-foot view of what he discovered in the investigation. So we don't quite know. is so damaging that it would be absurd for the Department of Justice to not try and raise some kind of issue about what he found. It's possible that they would want to submit it to the public or have some version that the public could see, which would most likely cause the White House to sue.

And it would be a very long court battle before. I mean, the version that the DOJ will see with all the evidence and things like that, we probably wouldn't see for years. I was trying to think of what is a comparable. I mean, the only thing I can think of is the Star Report of like a government report that will absolutely go viral and have these gigantic implications. But the difference is that the Star Report was like hard copies. Well, and also so many you could get. The law was different around those kinds of special counsel investigations back then. So now this abides by a new law that was created in 1999 regarding this. these investigations or at least the reports from becoming too broad that the only things that they can actually that they'll report on are actual crimes that violate united states legal codes

so anything that's like untoward or unsavory or shady that we would be like why wouldn't you talk about that because it might not have been technically like a crime that might not make that won't make it in we need to get a deep throat going. Yeah. And I think I have a feeling with just, you know, with what's at stake with people in the FBI writing books, being like, I started to investigate a counterintelligence operation because I thought there was a chance the president could be some kind of Russian operative or be under, it could be, have been compromised by the Kremlin. I think there's probably, there are some details we clearly don't know that are very pressing,

but we might not know. But again, I don't think, I think for me personally, and I think on the show, we've talked that we try not to fully, you know, put all of our hopes and dreams in the Mueller investigation basket as like the salve that will soothe this open wound of the Trump presidency. Yeah. But, you know, we'll see. I mean, Sarah Sanders is confident.

She was saying like, I think it'll be like a, I think the police will be cleared. But at the same time, Rudy Giuliani says like, well, if it clears the president, we'll move on. If it doesn't, we'll fight back. And I have a feeling they'll rock the board. Sarah will be fighting. Sarah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean doesn't, we'll fight back. And I have a feeling they'll probably. Sarah will be fighting. Sarah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I mean, Sarah's just a problem child. Is she the least favorite person in the administration? Possibly. Possibly. I mean. Well, maybe. Stephen Miller. I think Stephen Miller probably takes that one.

Rudy Giuliani's reactions to things is always pretty telling of what is actually going to happen because he seems to have little to no impulse control over what he does and what he doesn't. And just says exactly what he's like. I mean, we'll fight the thing right away. It's like, oh, so you do know what's going to happen? I don't know if it happens. Unless we don't. Unless we don't, in which case we'll move on. But there are reports

that the White House even already has like a rebuttal package ready to go. Yeah, that's not what innocent people do. Yeah, right. Secretly, they'll be like, okay, what'd you do? Okay, well, this is how we'll try to spin it. So yeah, like I said, Michael Cohen,

he'll be going up to tell the Senate and House everything, I guess, that he knows, although he did lie to them already. We're not quite sure what he's going to tell them. That'll be new, considering that he's already pled guilty and all of his crimes are recorded. So I think this is more of a tour for him to act like he's very sorry. He regrets all the deception, his actions, the laws he broke, the crimes he committed. And he's a new man because, you know, his sentencing is coming up. And that's why he's. I don't know about this new man thing yeah i mean i've heard that from a lot of men

yeah exactly no i don't trust anyone who has gone this far to lie about things that they're i think you have to no being a new man right before your sentencing hearing tired yeah and the idea that somebody is going to get off scot-free for rat fucking the election more than like people who are committing like real crimes and like oh love love it it's it's become a very new term and just describing all this russia stuff i love it kind of works yeah yeah you'd think that you like those people actually no matter even if you like oh i rolled on everybody can that be forgiven like no you need to see the inside of a jail for a long time, my friend. But, you know, we'll see what happens.

And, hey, look, if something happens with the Mueller report and things do change, maybe my heart will change. Amazing. I mean, I would love to be wrong about that. Yeah, sure. I think we all would. I'd love to be wrong about so many things. Right. But, yeah, we've become very cynical the last two years.

And questionable enough. You'd be wrong about so many things. Right. But yeah, we've become very cynical the last two years. And questionable in that. And oh, just to check in with Roger Stone, because last week we spoke about how, you know, the judge presiding over his case that he posted on Instagram with a crosshairs image near her face. One of the worst Photoshop's of our time.

My husband went to school with Amy Berman. Oh, really? They go way back to childhood. Yeah. So he's his old girlfriend Berman. Oh, really? They go way back to childhood. Yeah, so he's seeing his old girlfriend on the- Oh, wow. Do you have any gossip? What's the hot gossip, Jessica?

What was Amy like? No, she's brilliant. I bet. She's a tough ass, too. Well, that's very clear because she- Roger Stone wouldn't be so scared of her. I know. Right.

Well, if he knew that, he wouldn't have done the dumb thing. Anyway, so she basically called him in and said, you need to show cause. Like, why did you do this? Like, I'm not going to take your filing of apology as like a remedy to this. Yeah. Because he was already like, he was already out on bond. And they're like, you have to follow rules still here. Like, you can't just try and incite violence or something or bring a

suspicion on like this court with your cheeky Facebook or Instagram posts. Which is like people who say she went easy on him, you know? Yeah. They felt that, yo, he could have just been put in jail until this whole thing sorted out and really affected his liberty.

But she decided to say, look, you have just don't talk at all about anything. Essentially, the gag order is do not speak about anything or anyone having to do with this case. See, I viewed that as almost strategic because the longer he's out on bond, the more he fucks himself over. And that's I mean, that Instagram post is proof positive of like if he's allowed to

walk around freely, he's going to be buying steampunk stuff. He's going to be talking shit. He's going to be buying steampunk stuff. He's going to be talking shit and he's going to be making the situation way worse. So hopefully that's strategic. I think even more than jail, him not being allowed to talk and just shoot off at the mouth could be the worst case scenario for him.

Yeah. So she's smart. Yeah. So we'll see what happens with Roger. But yeah, the only thing he can talk about is to proclaim his innocence and to beg for money. And sell Roger Stones. Yeah, that is.

She did allow him to ask for funds for his legal defense fund because it's expensive, as you said, fighting off the federal government. Maybe he could sell Roger Stones swag. Yeah. Well, he had Roger Stones. Crosshairs, t-shirts. He was literally selling stones with his name on them. Yeah, full on Roger Stones. Crosshairs, t-shirts. He was literally selling stones with his name on them. Yeah, full on Roger Stones. Oh, my God.

In a way, not that it broke my heart because he's just a vile creature, but almost like when you've reached the end of your well of creativity. I do have terrible news. Roger Stones are currently on sale. They are? How much are they still? They were $12. Now they're $10. They're on.

Oh, you meant like they're on sale. Like they've gone on sale. They're on sale, but now they're discounted. I'm going to wait till it goes to five. Yeah. Yeah.

Honestly though, I have a feeling if, if you want a Roger stone, I'll make you one. Yeah. I'm going to go to the, I'll pick up a fucking rock and write Roger. Off brand Roger stones.

Bootleg. Yeah. And then we get sued for piracy or something. Sell them downtown LA. Yeah. Go to the, I'll pick up a fucking rock and write Roger on it. We'll do off-brand Roger Stones. Bootleg, yeah. And then we get sued for piracy or something. Sell them downtown LA. Yeah, go to the Santee Alley. With the fake Gucci bags. Yeah, and pitch them over there. And then donate it to candidates we like. Boom.

Boom. So, yes. So, you know, all that to say that we should know somewhat shortly whether or not we know anything about this Mueller report. Oh, wow. shortly whether or not we know anything about this Mueller report. But that kind of feeds into the next story is that Adam Schiff wrote a very, I guess, nice letter in the Washington Post. He was basically telling, it was called an open letter to my Republican colleagues, in which he's just saying, you guys, how long are you going to let this happen? Like the president is clearly like on a path to even hijack the power of the purse that Congress has like in that branch of government, along with all the other horrible things that

have happened. When are you going to wake up? So just like the crux of this letter is in this paragraph, which says to my Republican colleagues, when the president attacked the independence of the Justice Department by intervening in a case in which he was implicated, you did not speak out. When he attacked the press as the enemy of the people, you again were silent. When he targeted the judiciary, labeling judges and decisions he didn't like as illegitimate, we heard not a word. And now he comes for Congress, the first branch of government, seeking to strip it of its greatest power, that of the purse.

Many of you have acknowledged your deep misgivings about the president in quiet conversations over the past two years. You have bemoaned his lack of decency, character, and integrity. You have deplored his fundamental inability to tell the truth, but for reasons that are all too easy to comprehend, you have chosen to keep your misgivings and your rising alarm private. That must end. The time for silent disagreement is over.

You must speak out. Want to take bets on whether or not anyone's going to speak out? Good luck with that. Good luck with that, Adam. If children being just torn apart from their families and doing irreparable damage to their psyches, their development wasn't enough for them to speak out, or the myriad of other things he could have just listed, had a whole list of things they didn't speak out about i don't know let's go right back to the p word yeah i don't know what will i mean it's you know it's too bad adam's

figuring out all of his friends are cartoon villains and they have to write them they're not responding to him in the group text anymore he's like what if we were nice and there's no reply a lot of thumbs down reacts what's true like that's the one consistent thing you always read since the beginning like since he since trump got the nomination was so many uh gop politicians like off the record were just groaning and rolling their eyes and like couldn't believe what was going on yet you know i think because his base is so vocal, they're just again, they just fear this base that he has cultivated. Exactly. And they don't want to get they don't want to be on the receiving end of that.

Sure. I think, you know, I think the timing of this letter may if the Mueller report is soon to come out. I mean, he is the head of the House Intel Committee. Right. the Mueller report is soon to come out. I mean, he is the head of the House Intel Committee. Right.

So I'm sure he knows a few things that are probably kind of messy, for lack of a better word. For sure. Maybe hoping, like... You know, A for effort, Adam Schiff. Right. But there's no one that does anything. Yeah, he does get A's, I think. Yeah.

He's occasionally, he gets A's rather often. Yeah. For his behavior. But this one is like... But he's the only one yeah well i mean it's probably for democrats yeah i mean i think everyone's ready to yeah you know if someone was like okay i think we have the votes to impeach maybe we'll do it maybe not but i think he at the very least is really just i think he realizes this the way

things are moving right now with all this, all kinds of evidence that this person is unfit to hold the office just right there in front of you. You admit it privately at the detriment of the country. You know what I mean? And you're not actually doing anything. I think he really sees that that is really one of the more fundamental things like Russia or not, that the party itself, the GOP itself needs to find a spine in which case, because it's at this point they're doing damage to

the country. So who is benefiting really aside from the millionaires and billionaires? Right. And especially it's like if the GOP is to survive the Trump presidency at all, if Trump is taken down to any degree by the Russia report, the GOP has to have some stance of, we don't completely condone this now. Or they're fucking toast. There's no Adam Schiff. Damned if they do and probably damned if they don't.

The whole world is damned. Yeah. I mean, if you can just get a group of people who could just, you know, speak up, they would be idolized. I mean, Jeff Flake. If everybody spoke up, that would be awesome. Because Trump can't get rid of all of them. Right. Exactly.

That would just be too weird. Yeah. I mean, there's strength in numbers. And Jeff Flake would always sort of pretend like he was about to be that Republican with a conscience. And he just wusses out. And then just be like, no, I guess Brett Kavanaugh is all right. Yeah, right. No, he's actually really cool.

I love beer. Beer is awesome. I mean, when he said beer, you know, I could. That was it. Yeah, I can't talk down on beer. Really humanized him for me. I'm one of the freaking boys. This letter reminds me of, like, me realizing in college that everyone in my improv group

was evil. Like, you're just like, hey, guys, Jamie here. Wondering why we're all so awful. Anyone ever thought about that? And then just like, no reply. No reply. Yeah. Did you have an awful improv group?

Oh, terrible. Yeah. Like, it was just toxic? It was both not funny and extremely toxic. Like, I think 95% of existing improv groups. Sure. I'm calling it right. And just a quick update in North Carolina's

ninth district, we talked about how Mark Harris, his own son. Father-son drama. I saw that video finally where he was like, you know,

I love my parents, but this is wrong. It is wild. Essentially. And yeah, then I did see that clip of him just like sobbing in the court.

He was just like, you know, he's a preacher who's, you know, playing some games with the election fraud. So now the North Carolina State Board of Elections, they voted five to nothing to hold a do-over election,

special election to get that thing going again because it was clear that there was just massive amounts of election fraud being committed. Oh, God. But by any means necessary. I mean, I think that's been the mentality of the GOP, like especially since Obama took office, where it's like, let's just figure out how to stack the deck

in any possible way, whether that's gerrymandering or just stacking courts or whatever. And, you know, it seemed like this sort of form of duping people out of their absentee ballots to goose the numbers for you know a candidate

how stupid do they think everybody is I don't know and it's still we talked about this in the last episode as well

but just the fact that this is such a blip of a story is an indication of how crazy things are right now because in any other

like in a calmer political climate people would be like oh my god what what a disc well we're dealing we have so many disgraces happening simultaneously right one doesn't really stand out and relief against all the exactly and then there when you also think about you know when trump was claiming like in new hampshire the the kind of the fake voters who were like bust in from God knows where to like vote for Hillary. And then in California, he was claiming millions of whatever. He had this like voter fraud panel he put together that Mike Pence was leading.

Oh, God. They wrapped their thing up saying, we found no evidence of any of these allegations, yet they are just silent right now over this. But of course, you know, I think a lot of it to do with like the audacity of them to keep trying this kind of stuff is, up to this point, a lot of these people have been living in a consequence-free world.

So there was no, there was no like sort of subconscious feeling of there to be like, you know, repercussions for their actions. Because if you've done something over and over again and nothing's happened or like it's just bad press, then maybe there's no reason for them to stop. And even at the highest office in the land there's no repercussions right all these egregious yes that trump does one thing after the next and nothing ever happens so why should anything happen

and yeah exactly well i think that's why you know slowly we'll see what happens in this next election yeah we can put someone else in just make him a one-term president. Because now a lot of... Put it out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's interesting, though, about a lot of these Democratic presidential candidates, like Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, Julian Castro, they've recently been really outspoken about their support for reparations for black Americans,

which is not like... As a black person, which is not like what? As a black person, I'm like, wait, what? Really? Okay. Because Obama was like, I don't know. Right. It's impractical.

And the Clintons were not about it. Bernie was not about it. Bernie was like, you can't find the votes. It's like it's too big of an idea. Well, that's one of Bernie's hurdles to, yeah. Those are the same arguments people gave against his policies, things, too. So please, Bernie, come on. He still hasn't really addressed it recently like this week.

No, he's not. He's yet to comment on it fully. I'm sure, I mean, based on the other candidates that have, he'll probably have something to say. I hope so. I mean, Kamala Harris has come out and just basically said to The New York Times, said, we have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities. I'm serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities. Now, that's great.

Yeah. Not everyone is too specific on what exactly they would do because it's a really nuanced issue. You can't just cut checks for people and then be like, OK, inequality solved because we cut a bunch of checks. Everyone got $20. I mean, if you gave everybody their 40 acres in a mule back then, maybe we would be looking at something else because we would have people who owned land and were able to do something with it, but that isn't the case. And a lot of different economists and the other social justice warriors out there, you know, point to the idea that a lot of the remedies or proposals that have been put

forward about reparations are mostly income based and they aren't actually really addressing solutions that directly address the disparity between races. And I think that's something that I think would be a great conversation to have with candidates because this country has yet to have a real reckoning with the history of slavery and the idea that most people of color in this country are still living under different dimensions of oppression that have existed for centuries now. Yeah, what's most is alive and well, it turns out. Yeah.

But Elizabeth Warren, she didn't give any further info, but actually had a very interesting proposal because she was, not that this was about reparations directly, but she did call for the federal government to basically subsidize, like just have special home buying assistance for down payments for residents of communities that were affected by redlining, which is, you know, the racist practice of just carving out places for people of color to live and then denying them mortgages in other areas. So to sort of naturally begin corralling people of color and segregate people.

I think, yeah. So we'll see. I'd be really interested. I mean, I think it's great that it's entered the conversation at all, but I hope that candidates start getting more specific about it. Because it seems like this could be a very different, like each candidate could view addressing this problem very differently. And it might be interesting and productive to see

how we could combine some of those solutions. Yeah. The one person who has actually tabled like a specific plan for reparations is Marianne Williamson, who is the author and self-described spiritual teacher. I mean, she's a long shot, but she's called for $100 billion in reparations for black Americans. And I'm not sure how that would be used, but she was like, $100 billion. Sounds great. Great.

Sounds like a number. But I think, yeah, when you're dealing with systemic racism and things like that, those are the things that actually have to be dismantled and taken down first to even begin for people of color to, you know, live in some kind of equitable world or country at the very least. So we'll see. All right, let's take a quick break,

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This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. your podcasts. And we're back. And I just want to point out, I just want to shout out Pinterest because it seems like they're one of the only major social media platforms

that is taking a stance on the issues of anti-vaxxers. Pinterest, they've seen just sort of an uptick just over the years on how people were interacting with anti-vaxxer material on their site. In 2016, they said 75% of the posts related to vaccinations were anti. So that resulted in the platform putting in language that said they banned anything that promotes false cures for terminal chronic illnesses and anti-vaccination advice. So that was in their community guidelines. But now they've gone a step further and they've completely removed search terms like vaccine, vaccines,

vaccinations, vaccination and anti-vax because Jenny McCarthy just deleted her Pinterest account. I know her other boards were great, though. I know. Her other boards were great though. I know. Nantucket Bathroom. I love Nantucket Bathroom. Great inspiration. Jim Carrey Art. Yeah. A lot of really good boards. She's rocking. Suspicions about Who's Who and The Masked Singer.

She's a host of The Masked Singer. I didn't realize you could really use Pinterest for putting together that kind of information. I've always used it as like putting together sort of design ideas. Like when you're buying shoes. Wallpaper.

My friends use it to oppressively be like, here are the bridesmaid's dresses we are going to get. They're all five million dollars and they're ugly. Have you ever been part of like wedding pinterest boards i have my daughter just got married so i've had have been yeah absolutely tons of these pictures of it's vast but it's more like a way to just collect

keep your ideas together right and be like oh we like this we don't like that flowers on it how do just completely out of flowers there's so many hoopas with flowers on oh i'm sure they're beautiful, actually. And they all cost $5 million. Yeah, exactly. And at least they can all be aggregated in one place. You'd be like, well, we really can't afford this. Pack, build the frame for the hoopa yourself,

hire a florist to just attach flowers to it. Or just drag some of the bougainvillea from your backyard and strap it over. Put it on some PVC piping. Nobody knows. But yeah, so like I said, they have taken a stance because it's very clear that the anti-vaccination movement has created a very clear public health risk. I grew up in a time when there were no vaccines in the 50s. And my mother, I have a recording of her in my podcast saying, we had everything. We had mumps.

We had the measles. We had the chicken bugs. We had the German german measles we had one after the next i'm telling you it's a very messy measles wow yeah that's a whole other thing right there's a death sounds really wicked there's multiple strains yeah that sounds like a post-war like a pump up where it's like yeah and the german measles just like 2019 children can die of the same diseases sailors once died of like 300 years ago. Well, and it's funny because people do always point to the fact that they're like, well, our parents are alive and they didn't have vaccines. And it's like, but like, as you say, there were also many other people who were affected by it, may have lost their lives, may have lived through that. But that's why we're at a place now where we try and create herd immunity for people who might be vulnerable it's nice to see a social media platform of any kind take a progressive stance on something because

it just seems like every news update with facebook is a shit show nightmare uh tumblr removing all adult content that had like a bunch of weird ramifications as well it's just social media platforms have such a terrible history of making the wrong wide decision that it's like, all right, Pinterest, if you're going to remove anti-vaxxing, I mean, that's the best news I've heard. Right, from a social media platform

because Twitter won't get rid of all the Nazis. That's kind of escalating, don't you think? All these, like Facebook, they're all starting to get a little more conscious, aren't they? A little bit. I think they know. Facebook is waging a war in Asia.

Right. They understand how it looks. I think now they understand how it looks. I think that's what that phase they're in right now. They care more about how it looks than how it is. Well, I think more so that they're like, their first thing is like, oh, this looks bad. Yeah.

And then a few more controversies will then be like, oh, I guess we should do something about it. But right now it's like, it looks bad. Because, yeah, there was a story earlier this week, I think, about Facebook. They were allowing people who wanted to buy ads to target people whose interests were in Nazis or fascism. Oh, yeah. I think Facebook is just figuring out like, oh, it's bad optics to be like warmongers who accept anyone's money ever right um and you know good for them but stop just like removing things and start being progressive i mean right like to stand for something well right there's no like exactly and facebook even

allowed uh the promotion of anti-vax propaganda like by finding users who were curious about vaccine controversies. But again, and everyone was like, why are you allowing these people to just bombard your users with misinformation that is not even based in science? Yeah. And then Mark Zuckerberg is like, I don't know. They gave me five dollars. I don't know, man. It adds up.

It adds up. I have my price. Yep. And just a cautionary tale I wanted to bring up because this could have been me. In fact, it was me on MySpace in 2004. But let me just read you from the Idaho State Journal. This story about a man who was using social media in an inappropriate way. It says a Facebook post requesting fast food in exchange for an illegal substance led to the arrest of an Idaho Falls man.

The Idaho Falls Police Department took 22-year-old Brian Starlipper into custody after searching his home at 3-1-blah-blah-blah. They gave his address. Starlipper had posted on his personal Facebook page earlier that day offering a gram of marijuana wax to anyone who would bring him McDonald's or Burger King marijuana wax so that is that was I was that's what I was uh referring to so the wax concentrated uh form of marijuana uh which they now dab we call them dabs in the street that is that's what that is yeah that's stupid I know no wonder you didn't infiltrate that teen gang I know you're like dab you're infiltrate that teen gang. I know. You're like dab.

You're just like dabbing your pizza slice with a napkin. Yes, yes, yes. Like with a dressing. A little dab will do it. It's bro cream. Right. A little dab will do it. They're like, what lady? I know.

That really does it. You're out of the scooter gang. Really days me. I got removed from my lime gang. Oh, lime scooter gang. Yeah. I mean, I just... It's so funny to me that, A, why is somebody snitching on this guy?

He was clearly just a lazy stoner who was, it seemed like, this is the barter economy. It seemed like a fair shake. You know, he had me at Starlipper. I'm still stuck on that. What do you think? He's a good kisser. Yeah, right? Or he has like a really weird bottom lip.

This is really, you know, a scourge on the Starlipper name. And I won't stand for it. Or maybe, is it pronounced Starlipper? Starlipper? We don't know where the emphasis goes. Does it smell like it sounds? There's only one P, so maybe it's Starlipper. I didn't want to say Starlipper.

Starlipper. Yeah, that's bad. Let's stick with Starlipper moving forward. That's the only way I can. I'm sure we'll be talking about him a lot. Yeah, I can't move on thinking his name is Starlipper. He'll be running the only way I can... I'm sure we'll be talking about him a lot. Yeah, I can't move on thinking his name is Starlipper. He'll be running for Congress. Yeah, pretty soon enough.

I need to know how to pronounce that name. And I would vote for him because he would probably have some pretty interesting ideas on the economy. Although I would say that, I mean like in California, a gram of marijuana wax for like the good stuff would be well over $50. So, well, hopefully he was asking for $50 worth of fast food.

If he was like, I'll give you $50 worth of this drug for a hamburger. Right. Then I would have serious concern about this man. Right. About his, don't want to have him in any trade deals. Yeah.

And, I mean, but he's a giver. He is. He's a giver. Justice for Starlipper. Justice for Starlipper. Jessica,

thank you so much for joining us. Yes, thank you. Thanks for having me. So tell us a little bit more about your podcast, because the really interesting thing you said to me before we started recording was sort of the idea that if you think about it, nearly any family, if you dig deep enough, or just sort of try and tell the tale of your family, any family,

is probably going to be a fascinating story. I think so. I really believe that. As I was telling you, someone suggested that I do a podcast about my family, and I said, what? Right. Why would anyone? And then it didn't take much time.

I just went, oh, I see. There's a couple of stories that go through. There's a few threads that are actually, I think, really, really interesting. I think that's true. Almost everybody has some form of family, and there's got to be a story in there. You find the story and try to find a way to tell it compellingly. You too can have a podcast. Right.

Not just one where we have to talk about other people's lives. Right. Boring. Exhausting. I could do one just about my parents' divorce. Oh, I could do one about my parents. Yeah. See, there you go. Do a podcast about everybody's divorce. The podcast is called Everybody's Divorce. Right. Was there anything like that you had discovered? Was there sort of like a central narrative that you knew going into your like that your friend was like, Jessica, you got those stories about your family. Did it sort of start from there, or were you kind of forced to try and find something? No, there were, well, the truth is,

I have just, you know, just a surface description of my family. I do have some nutty shit going on. Right. So, you know, there was a lot of, I had five siblings, and, you know, they all, there's some weird stuff. Okay. So there was enough already just to get started, and, you know, they all – there's some weird stuff.

So there was enough already just to get started. Right. But then there's also some stuff, some threads. As I mentioned, there's a thread that has to do with racism. I'm sorry to say that this affects my family history and affected my father's father, for example. But this tells the story. My father's father, for example. But this tells the story. It also refers to all the stuff that we went through growing up in the 50s and 60s. We grew up in this town, Winnetka, Illinois, which was very sheltered, prosperous, beautiful, pretty little town where nothing ever happens except that, of course, below the surface there's all this gnarly stuff going on.

So there's a little bit of, you know, that's course below the surface there's all this gnarly stuff going on right so there was there's a little bit of you know that's one of the threads is like what and america was like that that's when america was great right it was just just coming right it was coming out of world war ii economic boom and all the men are coming out of the war and uh they they just get shoved right into this economy and they start commuting with their fedoras on their heads and my father was one of those guys but you know they never got to talk about you know they didn't They just get shoved right into this economy, and they start commuting with their fedoras on their heads. And my father was one of those guys. But, you know, they never got to talk about, you know, they didn't get to talk about the fact that. Well, that's what my father had, the PTSD. And my mother tells about this in the podcast.

And she's, you know, there was, for example, my father is a Marine. He's in the South Pacific. He's in a foxhole with his comrades. They've been fighting together for a little less time. And he gets out to go to take a leak. And by the way, when he comes back to the foxhole, it's been shelled and all his comrades are dead. Oh, my God. But there's like that's just one in a million of these traumatic things that happen to these guys.

And they never had to talk about it. They came home and they weren't supposed to say, you that war was kind of a shit show right they're supposed to come up and go this is the greatest moment for america and we won and as my mother said do nothing to to tarnish the shine of that accomplishment right so um you know so then they all kept it he never talked about it until he was in his 80s and then he got together with a group of veterans and they talked about it for like hours wow i'm glad he got that and he finally had this kind of cathartic yeah thing towards the end of his life but so there were so many things like that going on in the course of mccarthy or you know there's lots of stuff america was pretending to be so cool

and it was in many ways of course right but also in some ways not. And it was, of course, free civil rights. There was a lot of stuff. So where can people find the podcast? Everywhere. Where podcasts are served for free. Everywhere. Yeah, grab that pod at, I mean, obviously Apple. And is this called Winnetka?

It's called Winnetka. Well, there's and it says Winnetka colon a memoir. Ah, perfect. But you could just type in Winnetka and it pops right up. W-I-N-N-E-T-K-A. Yes. And I was telling you as someone who grew up in the Valley, there's a part of the Valley called Winnetka. And I was like, oh, maybe Jessica's from the Valley. I was like, nope, Illinois.

And are you on any social media? Oh, God, yes. Where can people find you on there? Well, Instagram is my favorite. There's lots of pictures from the show. So there's two. I have two on Instagram. One is Winetka Podcast.

And one is at Jessica Harperama. Ooh, Harperama. All right, well, that's a follow for me. Yep. Jamie. Yes. Where can people find you and follow you? And also, Jamie, thank you so much for holding it down this past week of shows with Jack being off in the wilderness on his sojourn.

Yes. It's all good. People, I know, I miss Jack as well. I know that people are starting to have dreams about Jack. Yeah, I saw that, yeah. Missing him, having sexually charged dreams about him. That's not my business. I am, it's been an honor to be here.

Thank you so much. It's always a blessing. Thank you so much. It's always a blessing. Thank you so much. And please, also for the listeners, Jamie, Jack, Caitlin, and I will be doing a live show together. March 9th. Bechdel cast with The Daily Zeitgeist talking about the year 1999 in a seminal film at the Dynasty Typewriter.

So please buy your tickets because they are about to go out very soon. I'm really excited. And Jamie, where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help. You can find me on Instagram at Jamie Cry Superstar. And listen to the Bechdel cast. We just released our new episode about Romy and Michelle's high school reunion. So, yeah, and then come to the live show and that's all and what is a tweet that you're

liking oh this is from a couple of days ago but it was a really funny tweet from matt oswald uh on kirk cobain's birthday that's pat and oswald's brother right yes it is uh where he says happy birthday kirk cobain your words and image will never be forgotten. And then attached is a mural of David Spade with a Kurt Cobain quote next to it. It's better to burn out than fade away. Someone, I don't know who made this David Spade mural, but, you know, it turns out he's mural worthy and it made me laugh a lot. He's at Matt Oswalt VA. He has 5 million followers.

He doesn't need my endorsement, but it was really funny. I have a... Oh, I guess we'll talk about me. Twitter and Instagram, at milesofgray, G-R-A-Y. A couple tweets I like. One is from at Niles100. It says, LMFAO, Jussie Smollett still casted more black

actors than Judd Apatow. Oh! It's crushing. Listen, I love when people get hard on the Judd. Oh, yeah. crushing. Crushing. Listen, I love when people get hard on the judge. Oh, yeah. You got to do it. Yeah, it was one of those, as I read, I just groaned. Yeah, for real.

And also, oh, sorry. Sorry, Jessica, do you have a tweet as well? I have a tweet. Oh, sorry, yes, I totally forgot. Now, this is a tweet from George Wallace, and I do not mean the dead governor of Alabama. Other guy, George Wallace. So he said not mean the dead governor of Alabama. Other guy, George Wallace. So he said, shout out to top five pans in the world.

Those are, he didn't say those are. Frying, Dust, Peter, Lifes, and Jeff. No, Jeff Hand, yeah, thank you so much. As a black and east person, I love you. George Wallace's Twitter is priceless. No, Jeff Hand, yeah. Thank you so much. As a black and east person, I love it. George Wallace's Twitter is priceless. I know. I just imagine him just, I don't know if he's doing it so easily or he's like kind of really working hard at doing it.

I know it's coming easily, but I don't know. There's part of me that I'm so interested in his Twitter process. He's one of the few users that you can hear all of his tweets in his voice. Yeah, right. which is great. But when you're a great joke writer, it probably is very easy. Let's see. Another tweet that I like is from PotsyGirlSarah.

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