The Daily Zeitgeist - Is JFK Jr Back Yet? Sesame Street = BIG PHARMA? 11.9.21

Episode Date: November 9, 2021

In episode 1026, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jenny Zigrino to discuss AstroWorld, what happened?, Speaking of Texas- Shit keeps getting weirder in Dallas with the QAnon folks…, Jenna “I���m TOO White For Prison” Ellis is READY for prison y’all!, Do people like AMC Theater popcorn THIS much? Anti-Vaxxers Have Been Attacking Sesame Street For a While Now and more! Astroworld: Travis Scott and Drake sued over deadly Texas concert crush Within minutes, the Astroworld Festival turned deadly. Here's what we know about the show's timeline Travis Scott will refund all Astroworld tickets, cancels Vegas show Speaking of Texas- Shit keeps getting weirder in Dallas with the QAnon folks… Jenna “I’m TOO White For Prison” Ellis is READY for prison y’all! Do people like AMC Theater popcorn THIS much? Anti-Vaxxers Have Been Attacking Sesame Street For a While Now  Ted Cruz condemns Big Bird for advocating Covid vaccines for kids Newsmax to Implement COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate After Weeks of Attacking Vaccine Mandates Sesame Workshop, the Ad Council, COVID Collaborative and CDC Launch New PSAs About COVID-19 Vaccines Jenny Zigrino Live Show TicketsLISTEN: If You Want It - Wilkinson Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And it's Tuesday, November 9th, 2021, which of course means that it is National Scrapple Day, National Louisiana Day. Let's just leave it at that. Those are two huge days for everyone Across this great nation My name is Jack O'Brien A.K.A. So bye bye Democratic

Divide Brought progressives to the table But the moderates lied And good old Dems were so Quick to comply Say and look how we can help all of you Don't you think we're better than you? That is courtesy of the Quarantine Kids

And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! A swastika Oh yeah, this song was about a swastika Yes, we were dancing And fascists were advancing A swastika. Oh, yeah, this song was about a swastika. Yes, we were dancing and fascists were advancing. A swastika. Oh, you think this song was about a swastika? Cracked article is still up.

Read and be sad you ever like this song. Cause it's a Nazi song. Oh, oh, okay. So that jill of all trades on the discord shout out to adam todd brown a lot of past little past work there on on the correct website yeah man that was adam todd brown did some deep diving into the background of ace of base found out that Base of Aces was a Nazi term about their U-boat base and that they had a lot of Nazi sympathies and a lot of people think

the sign that they saw was that old swap. I mean, they couldn't have struck gold better though. You know what I mean? Yeah, just so positive. Well, Miles, we, though. You know what I mean? Gotta give it to them. Yeah, just so positive.

Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an extremely talented comedian, singer, and actress who you've seen on At Midnight Cone and Girl Code. Adam ruins everything. She's starred in the movies Fifty Shades of Black and Bad Santa 2. You can see her in November in Massachusetts, Brooklyn, in 29 Palms, California, and in January in Idaho. Please welcome the original Jay-Z, the hilarious and talented

Jenny Zagrino! Welcome. Hi. Oh, you know, just watching the slow collapse of everything I've ever known. Yeah. Hey. Existential dread and all that stuff. Yeah. That's right. I'm was taping a special in a week nice

how's that how's that motivating you for the special is that are you having to compartmentalize as part of you like well here we go make it part of the the feeling it's like it's just gotta get done and then also too i've run into a couple snags as far as like content i'm just like fuck i have a week to fix this right got it got it you need to get the rights to the entire beatles catalog because yeah yeah yeah god i hear it i thought it was different he's a tough negotiator that's what i've heard do you guys know what scrapple is is that something yeah scrapple is like Is that something? Yeah, Scrapple is like a, it's famous in Indiana, I think. Oh, Indiana. It's one of the Midwest states and it's like almost like a hash.

Yeah. It's like pork scraps and flour and it's like a meat cake. Yeah. Right. It's, it's, uh, yeah, my, my uncle was really into Scrapple. He's from Philly and like he claimed it was a Philly thing. So I didn't know if it was like a known thing outside of the Philadelphia area. But it's just basically like bad breakfast meat. It's like, what if bologna was a breakfast meat? Breakfast meat. It's a, they strongly associate Scrapple with the area surrounding Philly,

Baltimore, D.C., Eastern Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, Eastern Virginia, and the Delmarva Peninsula.

I guess I'm wrong about the Midwest. It just feels like a Midwest thing. It does, right? The Midwest is just gonna, is just now finding out about Scrapple. Also, I just found out about the Delmarva Peninsula. Oh, bro, you gotta go. It's beautiful. Who is the Delmarva Peninsula? It's a landfill. No, I don't

know. No, it's part of the vast majority of the state of Delaware and parts of the eastern shore regions of Maryland and Virginia. Delmarva. You've seen it it if you saw it

on the map you'd be like oh that thing yeah tail on delaware wait i don't even know what delaware looks like i love when a word mashup makes sense you know like down under the manhattan bridge overpass when i found out that's what dumbo meant i was was like, yes! You guys nailed it! Cool. Well, Jenny, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about, of course, the tragedy that happened at the Astroworld concert over the weekend where eight people died. We're going to talk about another terrible thing that happened in Texas.

Not that terrible, uh q anon folks are still hanging out in dallas getting weird making that state even weirder we're going to talk about jenna i'm too white for prison ellis also texas actually so yeah is this all texas related except for astroworld that's jersey right astroworld was in hou. Wait, isn't there an Astroworld in Jersey that's like an old theme park? Oh, that is, I don't know. I know there's like Adventure Park. That's what I was thinking. Because I remember thinking about this.

Six Flags Astroworld. Oh, wait, but that's also in Houston. Maybe it's like Adventureland. Some are being like, wait eight people died like on a roller coaster what are we talking about oh no yeah and then i was like it was a concert right yeah still glad i was in jersey this still feels like a jersey thing to happen sure oh yeah it was action park right action park that was it the joke was like class action park yeah that's why i was like oh yeah people are dead there. Right. Very awful.

Uh, so we'll talk about that on this fun comedy podcast. Uh, we're going to talk about AMC theater popcorn. We're going to talk about the, uh, anti-vaxxer Sesame street feud, uh,

that we've all been waiting for with a growing sense of dread, all of that, plenty more. But first Jenny, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? King-size pillows. King-size pillows. King-size pillows.

Just looking for some different pillows, you know? Okay. This is the thing. Since I've, in the last few months, have been very, I guess, domestic. And like looking to revamp things. So I'm looking for pillows. I'm looking for sheets. I'm looking for comforters.

Damn. You didn't have any of those things before this past month? You got to get. But you know what? If you have like a king size pillowcase with a queen pillow, that's fucked up. OK. No one will respect you. I'm a 34 yearyear-old woman.

Just makes for a good weapon in a pillow fight, but otherwise not good. You could suffocate all that extra fabric. It gets stuck in your mouth, and then you die. Yeah. I do have a tendency to chew my pillow. Just to start. You ever looked at a pillow? Okay, this is for a lot.

I had a boyfriend. It's men. I'm going to say men. Yeah. His pillow, like, I remember changing the sheets one time. The pillow, I didn't understand how it had become. The whole thing was brown. Yeah.

All of it. Hmm. Like, have you ever looked at your pillows? Sweat? Like, out of the pillowcase? It's a nightmare. Yeah, I mean, I remember growing up. Because, like, I feel like my first pillows as, a kid were like probably like my dad's from when he was in college

or something so like you know like pillows i just feel like weren't a thing i bought in my my family like we had like a set number of pillows from the past generations that we had accumulated and all the time i'd be like when you take them off i'd always be like i'm like mom don't have to wash these she's like there put the case on and we'll just deal with it just don't ever look at it again i just remember being like it was gross it felt greasy i was like what is going on with this pillow it's uh yeah my uh pillows look like a fucking murder scene it's pretty bad it's like how did blood get on there i don't know i don't know how it Yeah, it's like, how did blood get on there? I don't know. I don't know how it happens, but there's like orange rusty shit coming out of my head at night. Like, what are you doing at night?

Do you like sleep? Fuck your pillow? I do, but like that still, you wouldn't think that that's... I do use a condom. So it shouldn't... Yeah, I don't know. It's really hard to understand. But yeah, I don't know it's it's really it's really hard to understand but yeah i i don't

know i guess you just have to walk i think all that to say is you got to really make sure you wash any parts that can be washed rather than like there's a case on it there's a there's a thin fabric over it that will protect the rest of it that would be a good like somebody needs to do just a scientific mysteries of everyday life and like what is leaking out of your head at night guys would be a good, would be a good episode. But, but it passes through the case unscathed. It's fine with the case.

Right. And then it's just a nightmare. I think I drool. I think that that might be part of it, you know, and I usually have like a candy bar in my mouth while I'm going to sleep. So that probably has something. That's where I hide my candies in my pillowcase and I forget it.

Or secretly you just suck it through the pillowcase so no one knows. Ew. No one's wise to it. There are all these Jolly Ranchers just stuck to the inside of my pillowcase oh man i think i had like melted jolly ranchers all over my bedroom when i was a kid because i would hide them and then yeah wait what do you mean you'd hide like like like like the like the feds were coming and you're like yo you gotta fucking stash these or i think you would like lick them and then like forget them maybe lick them and forget them. I just remember finding a bunch of baseball cards

that were fused together by a melted Jolly Rancher that was just in the back of my bookshelf. Again, don't have any recollection, but that kind of defines my life. I remember a grand total of probably two hours of my life, and everything else is just a black hole so and simpsons references that you keep mistaking for your life exactly what is jenny something you think is overrated i think that the concept of cancel culture is overrated the concept of

cancel culture i think i don't think people really get canceled. I think, I will say this, if you're a woman, you probably have a higher chance of being canceled versus a man. Right. And comedians especially who are like, cancel culture.

They're doing so good. Right. They've never made more money in their entire life. Yeah. It's literally a legion of fans who like you just because you said a dumb thing and got in trouble. Right. Or being like, yeah, man, this guy, he's got a funny way of helping me rationalize my racist worldview. I like this.

I like this. This is good. This is a clever way of convincing myself I'm not a piece of shit completely outside the norms of a healthy society. Yeah. And it is something like within the comedian community, because I was talking to some comics about this, where we like justify bad behavior. Like there's a comic who says some racist shit and everyone's like, but it's like, you know, it's like he said it, but it's like he wasn't even there.

You know, like, it's like he became another person. And it's like, no, he said the racist things. They came out of his mouth. They were his words. Stop. Stop making excuses.

He's been workshopping that joke for the last five months. He's suddenly like a racist spirit didn't enter his body. Right, right. joke for the last five months. If you look, you're like, this is like some demon improv. A racist spirit didn't enter his body. Right. Right. That is an interesting one too. That wasn't,

that's not, I don't know what happened there. I don't know. You know, it must've just been all the ambient he's been on. Yeah. Oh God. I mean,

I didn't realize he'd pinned that tweet for three months, but. He didn't, he didn't do that. That was, that was the divorce he was going through. Like whatever'm just like can we stop making excuses for these shitty people and then also too they're gonna be fine they're gonna survive like it's not no one's canceling you you're like you said a dumb thing and people are mad about it yeah right yeah because yeah

there is the version of people saying i'm a victim of cancel culture. And the reality was they've never made more money since. Or the other time, too, where I think, you know, just hoping and praying that if enough people understand that, like certain, you know, we've moved forward, progressed forward past like doing material that's like offensive to like huge numbers of people. Where was I going with this? Sorry, I took a lot of mushrooms this weekend. With those sexy cops that I referenced last week, right? Dude, they were really gentle though. And no, so all that to say is like, you know, for even when these transgressions are committed, that, fuck, give me one second.

Keep this all in there. I'm'm telling you it was a long it was a long weekend long strange trip that at a certain level right if you're access to resources and you're actually a revenue generating figure you're not gonna get like there's no way they can put down something that makes money in terms of like sure on a consumer level people might say i don't like this but at the higher level where the people who would actually be able to, quote unquote, cancel someone, which would be like venue owners, bookers, publicists, since money can still be made, it's like, well, let's move to another seem to be it's often a business decision on the men's part. The most like lucrative stand up comedian, I think, of the past 25 years is Tim Allen. You know, that's like people people recognize that some Tim Allen shit will resonate. resonate. Meanwhile, I just looked up because I was thinking of examples of women who've been canceled for bullshit. And, you know, Kathy Griffin for the beheading of Donald Trump, like photo joke. She like had a bunch of shows canceled. But even like back to like Janet Jackson for having Justin Timberlake like open her shirt like that negatively impacted her career.

Britney Spears, as the like framing britney spears documentary pointed out like because she was struggling with mental health issues people were just it's like not even a competition it's like women's careers get canceled for like showing vulnerability and then men men's like get to pretend like they've been canceled for like you know being racist and then they actually make more money yeah yeah interesting how that machine works it's a cool system yeah that we're all very oh and then also you can also get canceled for refusing to have sex with harvey weinstein that's another way that people's careers have been actually canceled. Right. I think that's maybe where people would be like, well, there's a difference, you know,

like there's like cancellation and then just have your career like smothered out or going the wrong way. Like, I feel like the word is charged in different ways where, you know, I think because cancellation even like woke to or using like just like on CNN, someone asked, I think, Senator Warner, like like are democrats too woke and you're like these are just these thought killing cliches to not advance an actual conversation forward in any way it's just like oh woke or canceled and it's rather than saying if it's canceling saying is there a discussion about can people evolve is there a path for people to evolve because that just sort of seems the road ends there. I hope you're a fully formed person by eight years old because everything you say and do from this point is going to have ramifications in your life.

Yeah. Like, and then we're all like, we're all like fucking be like, phew, thank God I was in high school when there weren't camera phones or things like that. And like, it's, it's, it's interesting how people very quickly forget that you have to grow. It's interesting how people very quickly forget that you have to grow. And even with woke, it's rather just saying like compassionate, wanting better. But use that word. You get it. Move on.

Nothing to talk about. Agreed. And also, too, just a side note. I think a lot of people think with like the Weinstein thing is that, well, you chose to be in entertainment. This is part of it. and so it justifies it yeah but they don't think of the same way as like well you're a you are a comedian and you said something that angered a lot of people like why shouldn't you also have the same consequences of you know as you put on these women you know it's like well you chose to do entertainment so right here you go right oh yeah that same like yeah that thought process yeah

yeah that's overrated yeah a wild double standard and christmas is canceled i hope it's fucking canceled you're not a big christmas fan actually i I love Christmas. I'm a Jew, but I listen to Christmas music because it makes me feel good. Yeah. I heard some Christmas music bumping out of a car this weekend. I was like, oh, hell yeah. Here we are. It's hitting. Who do you like to listen to?

What's your Christmas jams? I like the old standards. Yeah. Just like, you know. Like Andy Williams? Who? What? Andy Williams.

It's the most wonderful. No, no, no. That's too early. I'm talking like Frank you know. Like Andy Williams. Who? What? Andy Williams. It's the most wonderful. No, no, no. That's too early. I'm talking like Frank Sinatra. Oh, okay. Nat King Cole. Oh, you go further back. Further back.

I like him. It's a wonderful life level. Got you. Got you. Oh, yeah. Because I feel like when you put that stuff on and like a fireplace could be going, like, I think it's like 1940. Oh, I love it.

Yeah. You know, when the war was happening. Yeah. The good times. And my mom's family was fleeing from Tokyo to Niigata from all the fire bombings. It was a wonderful time. Yeah,

I remember the fire bombings. Jenny, what is something you think is underage? Massages. People don't get enough of them. Yeah. Yeah. There are,

there are men and i've dated them who have been like i've never gotten a massage i'm like how how do you exist how does your how your limbs move how do you just function like right you've never been touched just wow i don't understand what's the what's the explanation if you say well well, why? Some dudes are like, I just don't like being touched, which I'm like, that's crazy to me. Who doesn't love being touched? Yeah. Or they're just like, oh, I just never thought about it. Uh-huh.

Like, I took my friend to get their first massage ever. Yeah. And he was just like, that was amazing. And I was like, yeah. And no sexuality happened. And it probably was better than sex because it is better than sex. Right. There is something about like, yeah, because, you know, you can have good sex and be like,

whew, all right, I feel lighter. But sometimes with a massage, you're like, things that were fundamentally wrong in my body, I think might be changing for the better in a muscular sense. Yeah. I wonder how many of those guys were like, I'm never getting a massage. Or like that episode of Seinfeld when George got massaged by a man. And he was like, it moved when the guy was touching me. You know what that means, Jerry?

And you're like, holy shit, really? What are we doing? 90s. What a good time. Yeah. I think we're severely under touched as a as a society like yeah it's like i'm a man i have horrible knots in my shoulders like that's the last thing i want someone to address that therapeutically right i can't turn my neck and that's fine because i look straight ahead. I'm a fucking straight shooter.

It's like Tim Burton's Batman suit. I don't need to turn my head. That's right. It's all from the hips, baby. I haven't had a massage in a minute, but I've... I yearn for... I'm like one of those people, too, who I like to get my body just

ripped to shreds because like no that feels like the most you feel like the most relief if your knots are like really worked out and a lot of the times like if it's too light sometimes i'm like you know just a just a little bit more force and they're like are you sure and And I always say things like, I need to hurt after this. That feels like capitalism to me. That sounds like capitalism. If I don't fix something, I haven't earned this. Right. Exactly. I sneezed this morning and my head was turned the wrong way and I almost threw my back out.

I think it might be time for a massage. I thought you were going to say you sneeze during a massage. Just the funniest visual with your face and one of those donuts. Can't cover your mouth. And you're like, man, you sneeze all over the floor. I'm a violent and repetitive sneezer.

Are you a sunlight sneezer where you have to look into a light? I'm not. No, but my son is and my dad is. Those people are wild. Yeah. I use it like, well, I can do it if like I have a sneeze just right on the edge. And just to get me from 99 to 100%, I can get a little bit of UV sneeze, you know, inspiration.

People who have that think everybody has it, in my experience. Like, you know how like when you like need to sneeze you just look at the sun and then you can start to sneeze not true that doesn't make any sense to me well you know that's the thing we've talked about what people aren't very aware that others might be experiencing life in a different way than them i am of course talking only about my dad i'm like people are like weird because they think that everyone's a photosensitive sneezer and they don't hug you enough. He's like, all right, all my kids line up and look at the sun. The ones who don't sneeze aren't my kids. Go. All right. Let's take a quick

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slowly and like people too behind you don't realize that they're crushing you. It's, it's really awful. I mean, yeah, you look at what happened. Eight people passed away with hundreds of injured, you know, they're teenagers who were among the people that lost their lives. And, you know, from the way people describe it, like the real trouble started, you know, like in the earlier in the day,

like a bunch of people rushed the VIP entrance and like they just security just couldn't handle it. And like, you know, people were like, that's not a huge, that's not nothing not nothing new you know people are always going to rush fed gates at festivals because that's the time-honored tradition of being a young broke kid and that in getting that thrill in but then as like the show the festival went on and travis was about to go on there was like a 30 minute countdown graphic that came on the screen and that's when people started to move closer to the front of the stage. And it wasn't quite like getting to the terrible point at that point. But that was sort

of what began this like movement towards the stage. And then about 35 minutes into him performing, the crush became so much that there were people that were passed out, they were trying to figure out if some had actually had succumbed to their injuries and authorities had called categorized it as a mass casualty event and there were moments where you could see travis was like in between songs might say hey can you help this person or people you could hear the crowd saying stop the show but with the size of the crowd and the music and things like that just nothing apparently was happening and the concert went on until 10 15 and at that point you know the worst of it had happened people were trampled people had you know died from a

number of different causes probably from this rush of people but now i think a lot of the focus is really turning on like what happened and how could that happen because i think at most i've i've been to shows a lot of people have been to shows where there's huge crowds and you will hear sometimes, Hey, like kind of take a couple steps back. Like we want to make sure it's safe for things like that. Or like you're saying, like in England with the Hillsborough disaster where 96 people died, that completely changed even how football matches were even, you know, being secured or how they even thought of crowd movements and things like that and now it just seems like a lot of finger pointing not knowing who to quite blame there's already two lawsuits being filed against like live nation travis scott i think one even

names drake because when he came on like a lot of people moved forward too so i'm not sure what the benefit of those lawsuits are more than like really understanding like where things went wrong, because most of it, you know, a show like that with that many people, there's typically contingency plans in place to keep people safe. And I think that's where a lot of the, you know, the question marks around were there enough security people? How prepared were was the production to actually stop the show if things got bad enough and who knew what when because at this point you know there's just a lot of like i didn't realize it was that bad kind of stuff coming out of people like travis scott i mean the fact that they said the words mass casualty event at 9 38 and the show didn't end until 10 15 like like just turn the fucking

lights on like go up on stage and talk to Travis Scott and be like, hey, what? And, you know, there's a lot, there's video clips of people climbing, like, the camera towers to plead with the camera operators to talk to someone and say, like, there are people who are severely injured.

Or, you know, there were ambulances that were trying to make their way through the crowd, but these concert goers are so turnt up, they, like like hopped on the ambulance and kept it from getting to the people that were in need and you know at this point you know travis scott i think a lot of people have seen he posted like an apology video that many were like this feels so like your publicist your crisis pr team just like told you to read this it It felt, I don't know, whatever. He's probably in shock too. But he's like, at the very least, he's like, well, we'll refund everyone's tickets.

He says he's going to be paying for any related costs for funerals for these eight people. And also like offering mental health support for any of like the festival attendees for, you know, having to endure such a like horrible event. But I think, you know, I think the thing that's very clear is there weren't enough people doing the right thing in terms of how the event was produced to prevent this.

I heard that the security was really low as well, so there just wasn't enough people to just even pull people out of the crowd if they had to. Then I saw something about, did they have this center, like this split down the middle? It looked like they had it set up like, you know, to have like those channels for security to like move through the crowd, like those pens that they set up. Is that something that's usually done for safety or like to avoid something like that?

Well, yeah, because then the security can monitor better and you have more exit access points. Yeah. And you can let people into those areas, too, to relieve the flow of people just to kind of, you know, it's all fluid dynamics of where people are moving and where the pressure is. Because it's really underestimated how powerful these kind of crowd movements are. Like, it can bend, like steel can be bent from just people moving like this in one one massive you know body but yeah i i the a lot of like just reading like the accounts of the people were there just like so many people were there to go have fun and just due to the negligence of and lack of i think proper protocols it ends like this and it was wild i read an article in like the houston chronicle where there were two veteran like as they described

it in the article two veteran concert concert promoters and producers who do a lot of big shows in texas they said they had some ideas about what may have gone wrong but they did not want to speak on the record out of fear of retribution from live nation because they're the largest producer of live events jesus so it's weird that they even put that in the article but i think that's something that also needs to be really addressed too where even that this this thing is so big too that there are people who'd be like they might not do everything the best way or there's things that could have been done better they didn't even want to give that analysis to be like that that could fuck my whole career up. So, yeah.

Stakes are pretty high. Yeah. Ultimately, I feel like a lot of the attention is being paid to the artists. And, like, really, it comes down to the producers and the company that's in control of planning the fucking thing. Yeah, I think suing the artists isn't really going to do anything. No. It should be live nation and yeah because i mean unless they can prove some negligence where travis scott has an earpiece and

they're saying hey you got to stop or whatever and he's ignored takes his earpiece out and he's ignoring it then that's one thing but even then you'd hope that there are people like he's not the be-all end-all with who decides what's happening when he doesn't have all of the facts like you think there's someone right at the highest level to say nope cut the cut the fucking monitors cut the speakers put the security brief like put the security notices on all the screens put all the security announcements through the audio there's no more music but i think just right now just a lot of people trying to you know just move through this tragedy so i'm sure it's going to be an ongoing thing. where he became president and then stepped down in order to restore Trump as the one true God.

I don't think that happened. I don't think so. I Googled it right before we started recording and there wasn't anything about it. And I feel like that would have made news. That's why I'm in Texas. JFK back yet? Yeah. No. So apparently a lot of the q folks have remained in dallas

they've been returning to dealie yep to stand in q formation is that a actual thing like a guy this dude like michael protzman he's like one of the people who was the main sort of q anon influencers who got people you know real excited about this idea of him coming back he had them like when you know i think the run of show was sort of like, yeah, JFK Jr. Tuesday night. And then when that didn't happen,

it's like, all right, let's do some other fun stuff real quick. Since I got you guys here, I'm going to put in a queue for it. Why don't you guys stand in a queue? Maybe that'll work. No?

Stand in a queue. Interesting. It's like, it's like when, you know, you get that like free vacation, but then you have to sit for like four hours. They try to like sell you a timeshare.

A timeshare. Well, he has all we're here excited to see JFK Jr. But what the hell? Before we get to that. A timeshare. Who's here about to be retired? Greg, Greg. Okay, a lot of you.

Greg, because we can talk. I'm just telling you the flexibility that's offered by buying into here. I sat through one of those, by the way, for a free jet ski rental and free tequila. So that's all it took for me. Did it work out for you? I have a timeshare that's actually been really great and I need some investors if you guys are interested. No.

No, but I just like sat. It was one of the more obnoxious four hours of my life. God, for just tequila and a jet ski? Yeah. Yeah, that hundred bucks, that's's your life you just gave away there's bad planning i did like 60 that's on me that's on me um but yeah like another thing like people were kind of documenting what they were doing in dallas over the week at another point there was this video where people lined up to talk to a guy with like a fucking parrot on his shoulder. And they were single file.

And a guy kept telling him to look at this thing. And they'd turn around. And apparently, there was something to do with they saw a triangle in something from a building near where Oswald may have been. So they're like, oh, see, that's the Illuminati. Because they put pyramids wherever they kill people. And so that was, I guess, an activity. Sorry, I fell asleep.

What were you saying? I know. It's an activity to see where people died. Hold on, hold on, because if you don't like that. actually,

that's every historic tour I've ever been on. It is interesting. I've actually done the Dealey Plaza tour. Good. The weirdo. Was there a guy

with a parrot talking about the Illuminati? It's interesting because like, there's the like, JFK Jr. was, or JFK was assassinated here. Museum. But there there's the like jfk junior was or jfk was assassinated here museum but then there's just like all these conspirators like there's literally like a shack down there where the that has like all these conspiracy theory oh like the museum in santa cruz

yeah yeah exactly it's like it's like a port-a-potty with some pictures. It's a museum, okay? Get in here. But the thing is, despite the sad shit going on with JFK fucking not showing up and zombie form to restore Trump to power, this guy Protsman, he's like, I've got some real news for you, man. The thing was, he kind of got cold feet because he's dead. He kind of got cold feet because he's dead. Well, let me tell you why. Because you're at the Rolling Stones concert. And guess who was fucking at the Rolling Stones concert in fucking Dallas? I'm going to play a clip of these people talking. They got a fucking hotel, like conference room at the hotel. They're staying at just to kind of like talk, like yell into a microphone and applaud each other about nonsense just listen to this because if just listen okay i'm a little worried

that i'm gonna listen to this and be totally converted to the q thing because everything you've mentioned sounds very convincing and rigorous i mean i found out a new conspiracy theory i really like about how how the sun's not real. Really? It's just a bunch of reflectors and LED lights. Go on. You had me at the sun. That's it. That's the sun. It's not real.

It's in the middle of the night. They took the sun away and they replaced it. Yeah, they did. With LEDs. So these are two clips. Unfortunately, you can't get the one continuous clip because he gets cut off mid-sentence, but we'll continue in the next clip

because he's talking about, you know, the people who went to the Rolling Stones concert, they saw a few people who you thought were dead and they were fucking there. This woman just said Prince was on drums. So Michael Jackson was Mick Jagger. Michael Jackson was Mick Jagger. Keith Richards was John John.

John Kennan. JFK Jr. JFK Jr. 114. Trump Card 114. Elvis was playing... Hold on. That's what I said is getting good. I will continue. This is a boomer fantasy. I'm sorry.

Elvis was what? Elvis on keyboard. Famous keyboard player. Elvis. Piano. Prince was playing drums.

Okay. You already said that. And Heels Up Harris being played by Aaliyah was the

backup singer that walked right down the runway all the way to the front and was featured

in the show, in the song. Evil. It's only a shot away. It's only a shot away. Because it's, I-T-S is 48. Okay, so he starts doing his numerology to prove that these Rolling Stones. It's is because of the use of it's, the very strange word. If you think about those lyrics, it doesn't make sense.

Like, why would you use that very strange word? It's same as whatever. So Aaliyah was backup singing Prince on fucking drums. Elvis on keys was a JFK as Keith Richards and Michael Jackson is Mick Jagger. Uh huh. I'm I don't know. Too much. uh-huh i'm i don't know it's too much every aspect just seems like i don't know if i just have psychedelics on the brain because you're you you're near me because i'm near you and

breathing your uh exhalations no because it but they like your description of like them pointing at evidence of the illuminati like really felt like people who are like tripping. And then this just he just seemed I mean, he seems like he's blacked out, like just out on his feet, like hammered. Oh, he he was it. There was a time where he like said and the woman I'm sleeping with, he gestured to like someone he's sharing a hotel room with and like made this weird joke. And everyone's like, but like people people were like the audience was very strange and you know along with all this stuff there was someone like on their you know telegram channel asking a question like are we putting too much faith into this guy like he just said jfk was going to show up like all

this wild shit that could never happen didn't happen and now more of you are going along to remain in Dallas because you think there's a chance that he could reappear and this person was like chased out of the group and being called like a non-believer so you know we already the cult aspect of this is pretty established it's more like when you hear this stuff I'm like I just don't know what the end game is and where it goes because not to say that this is the most mainstream q stuff but it is definitely part of that ecosystem like where are they headed and is it just going to create a lot of people who are seeing all kinds of skewed meaning of you know what they're experiencing in their day-to-day and like beginning to like act out in real life.

And that's where I get real uneasy of seeing like where this stuff goes. I think I mean, I think so. I think it's just it's a mix of like people being confused about what's going on, bored and just like have very little meaning. like have very little meaning. And that's, I mean, kind of what capitalism does is it kind of, you know, gets rid of the meaning of your life when your life is just like work and money. And then suddenly you're a super spy. Right.

Like you're fucking James Bond over here. Right. They're all the guy, Bill Pullman's character, or Bill Paxton's character from True Lies. That's who they all are. I got a little dick. It's pathetic. You're gonna shoot me!

His delivery, like when he was saying like the prints on keyboard, he was like staring into the camera because I think he knew that this was gonna like hit the media, but I don't know. How many people were at that concert and could just be like no, that didn't happen.

Yeah, they're like, no, that didn't happen. Right. Yeah. They're like, I'm sorry. Just even show me how this person was Prince on. Just, I'm curious to know. Yeah. What the, again, how they sustain this sort of logic of. Yeah.

Where the fuck was little Richard? Okay. Where was little Richard? Yeah. Thank you. Exactly. Also down in Texas, while we're talking about it, we do just have checking with Jenna Ellis, who took a P-Jet to the January 6th insurrection. She tweeted the that hot fire. Sorry, I'm not going to jail. My skin is white. I did nothing wrong. Sorry. that's not how it works. Sorry, I have a good job. Blonde hair. Yeah, blonde hair.

Not happening. I have a future ahead of me. Never going to happen. So she, I think, was probably surprised that she got the absurdly late sentence of 60 days in prison. Even though it should have been much more than that. I'm sure that was a bit of a rude awakening to her. But she is now making the rounds. Just being like, this ain't shit.

I'll do this shit on my head. I'm ready for jail. And also I'm a victim. First stop when you say she's doing a press tour, it has to be Newsmax. You got to go on Newsmax where they'll have you on to say just whatever you want. And she was met with such sympathy and kindness on newsmax when she was just talking about her ordeal and what she's gonna have to go through just because she broke like some laws you know something and you're gonna have to forgive me i see that that is in response and

you're saying sorry i have blonde hair white skin and a great job yeah you have been um you're you're a victim here you really are i'm a big time victim like i've gone through hell like they've gone through my phone um text messages that i sent to my mother on her deathbed were brought up at my sentencing um i was treated like a terrorist at the airport with eight tsa's anyway so, so she goes on. Eight TSAs. Okay. Also, I like how he changed the sorry to her being apologetic.

Right. Yeah, right. Sorry. You feel like you have to apologize for this? Yeah, exactly. God, I mean, that is witchcraft. Yeah, truly, right. If you didn't believe in sorcery, y' God, I mean, that is witchcraft. Yeah, truly, right? Yeah, if you didn't believe in sorcery, y'all, watch this clip where...

And then they'd be like, and I'm so sorry. You are a victim here. I am a victim. You're right. I'm out here dressed as a pilgrim. Yeah. She's dressed as a pilgrim. Dressed as a sexy, smoky-eyed pilgrim.

Smoky-eyed, Aryan Wednesday Adams. Who's trying to overturn an election, y'all. Fuck with my little collar. And then, again, naturally, once you hit Newsmax, there's no other place that will allow you to say anything. So you go to your own TikTok to post a video where you're saying, I don't know, she posted a TikTok where she is so in love with her reflection, the way she keeps like doing her hair and like doing, pouting her lips and stuff. But she's letting everybody know, I'm going to prison, but I got plans and it's not going to hold me down.

So here's Jenna Ellis on. There are people in prison are going to hold you down, bitch. Well, she's got thoughts about that too. I'm going to go to prison in two months. And I go for 60 days. And I don't know what you do in prison. I guess you do a lot of yoga. You work out.

Read a book. Write a book. I already have a book written. What is she doing to her face? Just checking her face. I'm her face agent i'm excited about that i just have to finish a little piece of it because you know we have to sell it and you know maybe it might be a movie someday of how how i got entangled in this political fiasco all right anyway so i'm like yeah i'm gonna go to federal prison to do some yoga you feel me some book reading and i mean look she's not wrong a federal

correctional facility is much different than a state one because you got to break federal laws to end up in a federal prison so just by virtue of that yes maybe not as violent than a state prison but she's very like she's really trying to like almost frame it like she's selling someone on a timeshare here. She's like, it's really great. She's going to do yoga. You're going to work out. You're going to work on your book. And I have a literary agent.

When she said that, I was like, you might, but I don't know if that person's an actual literary agent. Oh, my God. There's so many literary agents out there who are happy to give you a book deal. Who works for Amazon self-publishing. Yes. Right, right, right. Why do they all seem so drunk is my first question. And then my second is,

I really want to know about the book that she has written. Because she talked about how she now has a deal to write the book about this story. But she was like, I already have a book written book written like do you think it's like ya fantasy or like what do what do we think she's working with there no it's probably uh my trump romance novel yeah a story of strength yeah jenna ellis i mean she's also doing that thing where like when you take a l you say i meant to do that right because you can't take a l so she's been like yeah i want to go to federal prison stupid yoga and work out and you sell a fucking book fuck y'all you wish you were in federal prison with me so because you know

she's not going to say like i don't know because here's the thing jenna i don't know you know you know there's no manager you could speak to in prison when you want more TV time or something. Or maybe you need to get a few more poses in for your yoga class in the yard. I don't know. I think I want to get a job in that prison now. Just be her hell. Right. You want to do a yoga day, Jasmine?

Right. I'll be like doing yoga in your 5x5 cell Oh you need a yoga mat? Here's some old boxes Some produce came in, why don't you break those down Get your Kundalini on Maybe you can eat pray love While you're doing kitchen time you dumb bitch

That's what I'm curious Like we've talked about Is this a deterrent at all? Especially when you have people going out there with their, you know, pouty face and doing their hair on TikTok talking like this is going to be fine. Like, it's great. It's great. It's great. And I don't know to other people who might think of being, you know, insurrectionist adjacent if that's enough to make them think twice of this weird fantasy world they're living in where they're the hero of this fake story. Yeah, it certainly opened up a lane

for anybody who wants to get famous who has crippling narcissism. The easiest way is there is just an entire group of channels that are willing to make you into a celebrity if you just go do something wild enough this is that cancel culture shit she's gonna have a go fund me

for her prison fees oh yeah her commissary is gonna be she's gonna make so much fucking money from garbage piece of shit you know whatever patriots hello garbage piece of shit, you know, whatever. Patriots. Hello.

Garbage piece of shit patriots. That's the thing. I can't even classify them as a political party almost. It's like they're just fucking weird, awful people. Yeah, who have a terrible worldview to gather around.

It's weird because it's like the more they realize they're wrong, the more it energizes them to keep going. Yeah, right. You know, and it's like this really fucked up, it's like snake eating its own tail. But it's like the more they're proven wrong, the more it just accelerates. And it's like, what do you, like, I wonder by their logic,

it's like if you're like, no, you're right. They're like, okay, fine. Now I i can relax they're like defiant children it's you know having temper tantrums and as when you point out that they're doing something wrong that actually like makes them double down and do the wrong thing harder right all right let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about some bullshit. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members

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that it is immediate like if it's going out of the popper directly into your mouth like all popcorn like that's the best popcorn can be is like freshly popped but like getting a fucking like bowl of

just old stale AMC theater popcorn or even like the kernels. It doesn't really do anything for me. Thank you. There's so many other popcorn companies I'd rather eat. Yeah. This is the thing.

They've come out with a huge press release. Probably not because their Q3 earnings calls in a couple days. I have nothing to do with that. There's like, man like they're really coming this press release is like we know popcorn and everyone loves amc movie popcorn i'm like what the fuck that's like such a weird claim and also one that i can't even be like, okay, I won't challenge you on that. Like my first response to hearing that was like, I don't know about that, but okay. And so they have these plans. They're going to have, they're opening up brick and mortar.

They call AMC theaters, perfectly popcorn stores and counters and kiosks that we're going to, they're going to have in malls in the early part of next year. They're going to have them in malls in the early part of next year. And then, so these locations, quote, will feature traditional and gourmet-flavored popcorn, candy, and other movie theater treats, as well as Coca-Cola freestyle machines and bottled water. Popcorn will be made on-site, and the company plans to add delivery options. So it's a candy store. Yeah. With four types of candy? Right.

Raisinettes. What have they done? M&Ms. Right. They were like, what makes money at our at our theater i guess the food let's let's expand on that it's like well it makes money out of necessity because what else is there to do or it's like the stoned people like me who's like fuck i should have ate before i came here and i have to eat three fucking 17 dollar mini pizzas to even get my hunger to cease to watch fucking cock blockers.

Are they going to have squeezy fucking 7-Eleven nachos too? I know. Right. Exactly. Hey, you want a nacho cup with that? I'm like, uh... I do do that with my popcorn. So you've decided to become a 7-Eleven without most of the stuff but with popcorn.

Without booze or cigarettes. Instead of booze and cigarettes, we have popcorn! They'll add that eventually. And the popcorn's fucking stale by the end of the movie. Like, it doesn't last. I mean, initially, this sounded like something I might do, like, in the height of my lockdown

isolation where I yearned for something I could not make myself, and it gave me some memory of the before times. Yeah, like a movie theater popcorn. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, shit, right, this, like, even though I'm not make myself. And it gave me some memory of the before times. Yeah. Like a movie theater popcorn. Yeah. And I'm like,

Oh shit. Right. This like, even though I'm not eating it cause it's delicious. I'm like, this is kind of fun, but things are very different now. And I just don't understand there.

I don't think there's that kind of appeal. If I go to buy popcorn, I'm buying the flavored shit. I'm not buying, I never buy plain, like even movie theater styled popcorn in a bag i'm always getting that cheesy popcorn or fucking kettle corn or caramel corn or something like that and the delivery option what you want a tepid bucket of fucking popcorn yeah yeah why don't

you give me fucking deliver fries on delivery too we we deliver fries. That's why you gotta get the air fryer. Right. And ice cream cakes. Air fryer, dude. And ice cream cakes. Oh, great. Okay. You're gonna love it.

Yeah, milkshakes, fries, and popcorn from seven hours ago. Yeah, I bet they saw good numbers when they were, like, just their concession stands

were open for a little bit during the pandemic and people were, like, going there to feel alive again but they i think they're just making the same mistake like we all did with tiger king where it was where now we have a memory where tiger king was like a great show it was fun but like you know like i i just think that they are assuming that things are still the way they

used to be and they just they just aren't and you're like oh honey honey no this was never about you and your popcorn this is about how sad i was and i it was kind of fun to fill up a garbage bag full of popcorn for five bucks yeah watch tiger king but yeah it doesn't track like with i get that obviously this is all part of making up for lost revenue because of the pandemic but to me like the smarter ways to diversify was like when they're talking about having like concert coverage or sporting events where people normally will sit down and stare at a thing as a way to like get more people in there rather than being like hey you know what people love is making a

really terrible flavored fucking coca-cola in the middle of their shopping and popcorn i bet you can't even fucking butter yourself i mean what i am like a buttered movie popcorn and coke freestyle machine queen i do love those things and even i'm like i i'll still go i'm not gonna just go to a store and get those that that is only something i will allow myself at a at a movie theater right i mean is do any of you just snack on popcorn are you are most people like in the only in the context there's one particular type i like. Okay, there's two. Number one, a Garrett's popcorn. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Chicago style,

anytime, day or night, I'm here for it. I love a Christmas tin. Yeah. Yes, that is the... With all the colors, the violent, like the green one. I will eat my fucking weight in Christmas tin popcorn.

It's not good, but it's in a giant tin. I remember when we first got one of those i was like what what angel dropped these off that i'll fuck with and then i fuck with this one popcorn that is the buddha popcorn that's like coconut oil oh yeah yeah yeah that stuff's not bad that's just good it's like a nice little thing yeah it's like salt but kind of sweet with the coconut oil yeah but see do you ever buy movie? Oh, the other thing that they're doing is they're going to fucking also make microwavable AMC popcorn.

I'm like, you fucking idiot. Don't they have that? Right. I feel like they already have that. Or they have something that is that in my brain. Pop Secret does that shit. Yeah. But it's like, we still haven't figured out how to do that right.

Even in a microwave. You know what I mean? So microwave popcorn gives you popcorn lung that you can't breathe. Yeah. Same with vapes, everybody. Look out. Y'all can have popcorn lung. You know what I've started doing that is fun is making it stovetop with oil myself.

Wow. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It does. And then I'll add coconut oil and then I'll add like other different flavors just to make it exciting. A little bit of spice. Jay-Z, you sound like you're heavy in the

popcorn game. What started as a casual you're slowly revealing yourself. I'm like, yeah, I'll buy this shit here and there. I love popcorn. But not like this. This is my secret shame is i just love popcorn yeah and again i like the flavor stuff but amc you got to do better and i'm sure look like they said they'll have flavored popcorn too but i just don't i don't know maybe they're

seeing something with like kids that like maybe if you're dragging kids through a mall like suddenly they're gonna want it because it reminds them of the movie theater but I mean if they can succeed on this hell yeah like I want movie theaters to stay in business so if they can fucking make money off of this great like as long as it does

as long as it doesn't replace your movie theater business well that call it'll matter to like what like the four million individual stockholders right old amc stock you know yeah it'd be an interesting call all right real quick we do have to go back to texas because there is a showdown happening between big bird and because he tweeted that he got the vaccine and that fucking enraged Ted Cruz, who is like, that is government propaganda for your five-year-old. That fucking salamander.

Yeah. Oh, that's propaganda for your five-year-old. Not fucking Paw Patrol. Right. Fox contributor called it twisted. Newsmax called it evil on the same weekend that we learned that Newsmax itself has a vaccine mandate. But it's just, first of all, it's not even like Ted Cruz's top 50 lowest moments, but it's just ridiculous because Sesame Street has consistently been reinforcing public health

messaging throughout the pandemic. There's one wheremo's dad gets vaccinated and like sesame street was even doing this like trying to get to the grown-ups through their children who haven't like had the humanity just fucking sandblasted out of them yet and so they're just like it's elmo's dad getting it and like elmo being like good good call dad oh whoa i didn't even realize elmo had a dad like that yeah he's like elmo was a fully grown adult yeah elmo he elmo i it's hard to know where yeah his dad's like three or four and big bird is like five or six i think his dad's a child oh yeah yeah apparently but he's so big i know that's what's that's what's so terrifying about him how old is oscar the grouch i think he's he could be late late yeah i think he's like late 60s

probably but elmo's dad looks like a guitar tech for like fish he does he that is his character is like he like is something in the music industry like like a backup musician or something because his like soul patch and shit i'm like it's just weird to see like and that's elmo's dad this guy honestly doesn't look like someone who would get vaccinated to be honest right Right. Right. This guy looks, he looks like this racist. I was doing wine tasting and he looks like the racist owner of a wine company.

That when I was like, I'm a comedian, he goes, like, immediately said the N word. Like, immediately. Oh my,

like reflexively? Like, oh, you're a comic. You can't say anything anymore. Back when I was a kid, we called everybody by their racial slurs and then proceeded to

tell me. What those were? Exactly like this guy. Wow. Interesting. And he's like, and also, this cab sob is going to pair with a lot of different things. I know. That's like not what I associate with wine. But it is like a very

boomer thing. He's like, oh, you're Jewish, huh? How does this compare to Manischewitz? You're like, whoa, no. I'm in the wrong. I was doing shows all weekend in Fort Worth. One of my jokes is I say I'm a liberal Jew. And I kept getting booed.

Which part are you guys booing? To clarify, what part are you booing? Yeah. The liberal part. I'm like, is it? There's a tiny poo for the Jew part. I don't know. Let me poll the audience real quick.

How many booed for the liberal part? All right, all right, all right. How many booed because I'm Jewish? Okay. But this is like Sesame Street's whole thing. Like last year, they were teaching handwashing and like wearing a mask when kids were going back to school. Pre-COVID, Sesame Street was promoting vaccinations like back in 1972. Like there's a viral video that went viral over the weekend in response to Ted Cruz with Bigick getting a measles vaccine in 1972. Elmo don't get

smallpox. Elmo can now go to public school. Elmo loves Zoom learning. Elmo goes to a Waldorf school. What are they teaching in there, Elmo? Friggin' CTR?

But it's funny because anti-vaxxers keep coming at Sesame Street. This has been their white whale, where they're really pissed at Sesame Street. general, extolling the benefits of vaccines and was attacked by the National Vaccine Information Center, which that is the nightmare reality we live in, where the National Vaccine Information Center is an anti-vaccination, anti-scientific organization that's basically trying to kill people. Inform people. Yes. But there's also this 2009 article about a PSA in which Elmo talks about preventing swine flu through hand-was sneeze guarding with no mention of vaccines whatsoever. And people were claiming that like big pharma was out to brainwash Americans' children with vaccines. The comment, Elmo will be turned into a status quo neocon working for Big Pharma by the same powers

that did the same brainwashing to most of our recent presidents. Elmo will be the next Orwellian big brother to our children. You'll be in the kitchen doing dishes while Junior is glued to the tube watching Elmo and slowly being brainwashed. The vaccines Junior is getting is helping him on his way to becoming one of them soon you won't recognize him and he will and it keeps going yeah because he's grown up because he's yeah

he'll have a fucking beard and my parents are ignorant actually one of my favorite tweets i have a couple tweets i wanted to read but one of them has to do with bad vaccine advice okay i'm waiting with bated breath for that one it's what i mean what are they it's the anger right like for that one especially they're not saying vaccine but it's like the idea that they're trying to get young people in touch with just general health tips yeah they didn't say vaccine in the psa and yet this person had this like just violent anti-vax response i mean you know because i know you know there's some people and i know some anti-vax people in my life and And one of them, some seem to be like motivated by like this belief that it's like autism,

like the root, like the thing that will happen is autism. Like that's the vaccine injury. And as they even like look at their own children, I wonder how many people are just constantly powered by like that anger that they feel that a vaccine may have like their child is neurodivergent because of a vaccine or they hate a doctor from back when they were a kid like i'm it's it's hard for me to sometimes wrap my head around what exactly powers them to even see like hand washing no like where the like what the fuck where's that energy coming from or is it just sort of the anti-academic sort of you know perspective anti-elite vibe right right it's that the

what is it the um uh i don't even want to say because i'm like my history's i don't know my history's not very good about communist russia but you know the elite are the enemy and but it's in a weird but it's in a weird twisted way where you're like um doctors and scientists are not the elite they're people and then your billionaire elite class are not heroes that are coming to save you right which is odd because they're the ones funding all like the madness over critical race theory right now and trying to have like this discussion of like ripping out things in libraries that could might inform someone like what critical race theory that's not even it's critical race theory is just like laws are made to with race like inside them that we don't even know like it's you know like voting laws are

critical is part of it but it's like they don't get it they're just like they think critical race theory is a teacher being like white people are the devil right good yeah it's all these fake news stories about then they separated the white third graders from the black third graders and the black third graders got to yell insults at the white ones like that i feel like that's where it's it's happening on facebook basically yeah but it's just amazing like how inevitable this was that they were already like venting anti-vax views on sesame street before sesame street even advocated for vaccines like that it's just yeah it's inevitable yeah is it the white whale because no matter how much they scream kids still fucking love sesame street like they're like man i don't know how my

kid keeps intersecting with this you can crap. You can't cancel Sesame Street. You know what I mean? Exactly. Where they're trying so hard, but it's like also because there is something like, I feel like every kid, I don't know a kid who's like, I fucking hate Sesame Street. Yeah. Well, like seven-year-olds are like,

that's when they feel like they're too old and too cool. But I'm saying when you're up in it, you know, like a preschooler, they will flip the fuck out for Sesame Street. Yeah, I mean, a 10-year-old's not like, Elmo's a fascist. Right. I mean, with these kids now, they're like, dude, I'd be worried about Elmo's dad. Right.

He's not that guy, dude. What's his upstack look like? My little sister's being homeschooled by my dad right now, and he's a very right-wing guy. And I'm just like, oh man, this is trouble. Oh, like what version? Yeah. Yeah, I'm just like, oh no.

He's teaching American history? Oh no. But what was it, I mean, growing up in a house like that, were you at what age did you begin to feel like your worldview was diverging from whatever the norm was in your house? Well, I was always an artist, so I was always like, you know, interested in art. And so I think already having that view of, you know, counterculture. Yeah. Yeah. Like at 16,

I went to an arts high school. Right. So, and I was a goth kid and I was like, always little alternative. So I already had those ideas and then going to art school and then art college really like expanded my mind on that but also 15 years ago this wasn't a thing like my parents were republicans but it wasn't crazy yeah yeah it was just like we like low taxes and George Bush seems like a cool guy to have a beer with yeah yeah it was just like we like low taxes and george bush seems like a cool guy to have a beer with yeah yeah pretty much and they were like we gotta go jenny jfk is he's gonna appear you know yeah and you know they also they would watch the daily show and they would think it was funny right you know what i mean like it wasn't it wasn't as right as so polar now. Right. So, and where there's just literally different worlds that exist because of social media.

Yeah. Yeah. That's why there was like this sort of expert on weapons and gun violence in the U.S. was like ringing the alarms. Like the number of guns that are being bought plus this like hyper polarized world they're like this is the worst equation i've ever seen in my life right and it's like really trying to be like we need to come to grips with what's happening here because like as much as you just think oh yeah it's like whatever whatever it's like the seeds are being planted

for something awful with just like what with people's media diets the way politicians are normalizing violence as a way to act out their goals and things like that like it's a very slippery path so yeah yeah hope we can pivot to something but it's difficult to know what that's gonna be unless jfk dave chappelle prince uh and many others come together to heal our country. I mean, look, if Prince came back from the dead, I'd be cool with it. Right. I think we'd have to all get on the same page if Prince came back from the dead. Yeah.

But what if Prince was QAnon? What if Prince came back and was QAnon? I'm just like, oh, no, Prince, please. Jenny, it's been such a pleasure as always having you. Where can people find you and follow you so um huge thing is on uh sunday november 14th i'll be shooting my one hour special in new york city at little fields nice and um tickets are free they're at 6 30 and 9 p.m um i'm running my new one hour called Gen Z. Hey.

It's basically about being in your 30s and as a millennial and, you know, every time just totally passed us by. Our time to thrive is gone. And now it's Gen Z. It's Gen Z and it's boomers. Like millennial, we're just like, can we have 3% of the wealth, please? Yeah. So it's about that. It's also, you know, just fun. So come to that show. If you're in Boston on the 11th, I'll be performing at the Comedy Studio.

You can find me at Jenny Zagrino on everything except on TikTok, where I got banned for calling anti-maskers stupid or talking about my OnlyFans. That was either one of those reasons and so i'm jenny's a great old comedy on that one yeah pivoted and is there a tweet or two that you've been enjoying yes so there's a whole account that i really enjoy it is called bad medical takes you guys know this one no you don't know this one it's so good i have to read you guys know this one? No. Oh, you don't know this one? It's so good. Oh, I'm going right now, Beth. I have to read you guys a couple of these because they're so good. This is a guy named Jeff said this one.

And he said, I do rely on my healthy immune system. I don't wear masks. And I played in a creek with raw sewage as a child. I wash my hands sometimes. I realize that hand sanitizer and constant masks over time fail our immune system. I trust my immune system more than the CDC. And so I thought that was a real raw sewage part. Can't argue with that.

Right. And that's like a real fun way for that person to be like, how the fuck did I get through that then? Yeah. If not my immune system i was playing with shit folks not mine even right here's here's another bad medical take let's see this is from one woman named free spirit why did the spanish flu pandemic of 1918 peter out after two years but covet is still going strong two years in in In 1918, they didn't have TV or internet. They didn't have Zoom, school, and Amazon.

They didn't have smartphones. And most of all, they didn't have the PCR test. Oh, my. That's... Man, I need to put that one on the plaque. Well, they didn't have PCR tests then. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. I just, there's so many good ones.

Yeah. Oh, I'm sure. The level of like blaming the messenger that is represented in that take, that like PCR tests are the bad, are the bad guy. Right. Because there's a thing that tells you you have COVID. Them and the doctors. Yep.

Here's a, here's a non-COVID one. That's a good one. You can smoke cigarettes all of your life and never get cancer. Why is that? Smoking debilitates your system from pollution, but it's not the cause of cancer. Lung cancer is caused by a fear of death. You need to study German new medicine for the answer. Oh, wow.

I've been saying it forever. I've been saying that for a long time. German new medicine, man answer oh wow i've been saying it forever i've been saying that german new medicine man that german new metal german new medicine look if disease is caused by fear of disease fear of death yeah also that's an entire religion i think that's also someone who has a terrible fear of death who's trying to convince themselves if they can just get over that hump of the fear of death and they'll live forever yeah yeah yeah it's it's everything i also really love um right wing cope is another one i love oh yeah right wing cope was great yeah because that one took off right after january 6 i remember and oh yeah or no it was right after the election right because everyone was like but how did it all go blue to and suddenly you're like because numbers because voting yeah miles where can people

find you with the tweet you've been enjoying i can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also the other show for 20 day fiance with sophie alexandra where we talk 90 day fiance in our own very unique way so this is a tweet from somebody auntie at so-called shauna tweeted i was so drunk yesterday i pulled a young man over to the side who was trying to fight and i had a talk with him i said young man we are here to have fun don't ruin our good time with that foolishness he said yes ma'am and at that moment i knew i had turned 50 um and this other one is from at Astro blog tweeted. I was

writing alone at a bar and this guy comes up to me stops at a respectful distance. It says just wanted to check on a scale of one to 10. How open are you to talking to a drunk stranger? I'm waiting for friends, but I can totally just leave you alone. A plus immaculate vibes.

That person fucking rules. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Zach Zimmerman tweeted, in Boston, Wicked the musical is called very. TJ Chambers tweeted, you're allowed

to call anything country music's biggest night. Like, literally no one checks. You can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy let's do okay look i've been on my bike listening to that drum and bass i found this really interesting uh cover of redbone by childish gambino but it's like so electric it feels like it's like almost a parody of the song, but it's,

it vibes with me on my bicycle when I'm just flying through the streets. So this is called if you want it, because if you want it by Wilkinson, so check this out. This is, if you want it by Wilkinson, don't know if, you know,

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