The Daily Zeitgeist - Is Netflix For Real? Dude Looks Like A Robot 12.14.18

Episode Date: December 14, 2018

In episode 294, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian the Reality Bytes podcast co-host Sofiya Alexandra to discuss a 'high-tech' robot in Russia that's just a man in a costume, earthquakes in the Mid...west, Trump's love for Adderall, David Pecker and AMI flipping on Trump, the Senate passing a resolution to stop support for the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen, the creep the GOP were trying to bring in to discourage increased minimum wage, how women-led movies are more profitable, Netflix claiming 'The Christmas Chronicles' is the biggest film of the year, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. 'Hi-tech robot' at Russia forum turns out to be man in suit2. How likely is an earthquake in the Midwest, South? The Big One could be coming3. WATCH: Noel Casler 12 1 18 Gotham Vet Show4. Trump confides to friends he's concerned about impeachment5. Tabloid Publisher’s Deal in Hush-Money Inquiry Adds to Trump’s Danger6. What Exactly Is Our Problem With Saudi Arabia?7. A Big Day For the War in Yemen8. House panel delays hearing after discovering witness’ anti-gay, anti-feminist blog posts9. Sorry, comments sections: Women-led films just make more money10. Netflix says 'The Christmas Chronicles' is Kurt Russell's biggest movie ever11. Netflix’s ‘Christmas Chronicles’ Breaks 20 Million Streams in One Week12. Brandon Coleman - 'Walk Free' (Flying Lotus Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien, Miles Gray, and a Hosni-ay. The daily zeitgeist in your ears keeps all problems at bay. Like the salt guy. That is courtesy of Sean Constantineine on twitter and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray jackie are you oh gray jackie are you oh gray are you oh great jackie jackie are you okay jackie are you okay are you okay jackie jackie are you okay are you okay jackie all right anyway that is is from at Sir Brentsworth, Brent Liberati.
Starting point is 00:03:08 I can't believe you did the actual lean. That was incredible, the smooth operator. Yeah, I drank a whole pint of promethazine. Yes. Oh, that lean. The lean from the video. Sorry, yeah. If I stop breathing, just smack me around.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Smooth criminal, not smooth operator. A little water on my head. Different song. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by fan favorite and one of our favorite comedians to have here on the show, Sophia Alexandra. Thank you so much, Rebecca. Thank you. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:34 How are you? How are you? Feeling great. Good. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better. But first, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. Talking about a fancy Russian robot
Starting point is 00:03:48 who turned out to be just a guy in a robot costume. We're going to talk about more earthquake shit. That's going to be a new segment on the show. More earthquake shit. We're going to talk about the dude who claims he has witnessed Donald Trump just grinding up the Adderall and blowing lines. And we're going to talk about AMI and David Pecker, our old homies from the days of Floyd.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Flipping on Trump along with so many others and other things. We're going to talk about a lot today. But first, Sophia, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? First, Sophia, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I tried to search the most prolific child killers. Like people who murdered children or children that killed? Children who murdered the most people. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Now that's more fun. Now that's what I call searching. Yeah. yeah and um my favorite thing that i came upon in that search was a child a girl okay that had killed another child then came over to the mother's door knocked on the door and was like hey have you seen billy oh i feel like i saw him out in the meadow just so she could watch the mother discover Billy's body. What? I know. That's my favorite thing that I found. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:10 How old was she? I think she was like seven or eight. Oh, my God. I mean, like a child. What country was this in? England. Wow. Recently?
Starting point is 00:05:21 No. Or is it like an old mythical tale? Yes. A tale as old as time. A child that murders other children. Wait, is that what the tale as old as time is from that Beauty and the Beast song? They were talking about that little girl who is savage. That is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah, how you like listening to your little boy dead, huh? You didn't know that the Beauty and the Beast were the same person. Wow. You just blew my mind. I know. Yo, is that the moral and the Beast were the same person. Oh, shit. You just blew my mind. I know. Yo, is that the moral? That's the moral. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Okay. Yeah, that's a whole thing. I'm going to rewatch that movie now. Through being a fan of last podcast on the left, I've learned about killers who really enjoy. It's true what they say about look at who's at the crime scene when the body's being discovered because that's like part of the thrill for a lot of thrill killers. Right, right. I mean that's why you return to the scene of the crime. There was a Japanese guy who killed his classmates that were bullying him and then he killed his own mom because he didn't want her to live with the shame of being the mother of a killer.
Starting point is 00:06:20 That's so thoughtful. That's the other way. That's the other direction. That's how we do in Japan. That's so sweet. Think about your mama.'s the other direction that's how we do in Japan that's so sweet think about your mama I'm gonna send that person a card good luck getting it to them
Starting point is 00:06:30 are there any did you find any children who like killed a bunch of adults like kids who are like 12 or younger that would be dope nothing that was nearly as interesting as this right like everything paled once I found that
Starting point is 00:06:44 especially when you're like yeah I think I saw him over there yeah that is what got me nearly as interesting as this. Right. Like everything paled once I found that. Especially when you're like, yeah, I think I saw him over there. Yeah. Yeah. That is what got me. I was like, oh.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It was like two in the morning, all the hair on my arm stood up. Right. That is so crazy. I just like the idea that you went through some other bunk stories too. Like,
Starting point is 00:06:59 man, this ain't fucking lit enough. It wasn't. You got Google. Other child murders. I was like, please, a child that didn't
Starting point is 00:07:05 even care whether the victim's mother was gonna see no not for me thanks so that's what you'll get on
Starting point is 00:07:13 Sophia's Twitter feed some shit like that and her dating podcast Reality Bites yeah that's the sort of you guys listen to
Starting point is 00:07:20 when Jack and I are on learn a lot about our romantic lives if you ever thought what's it like to date us? Yes. Check it out. I love that story Sophia just told.
Starting point is 00:07:29 You'll never want to date us again. That's not true. I think everyone's going to fall a little deeper in love. Oh, come on. Get out of here. And Jack, you were vulnerable. Oh, Jack was so vulnerable. And I know a lot of you listeners don't think that Jack is capable of being vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:07:43 That he's just a brain and humor machine. Well, you'd be wrong. Want to see a grown man cry over having a baby? Yeah. He doesn't do that. Check out another podcast, because it's not that one. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, you know
Starting point is 00:07:59 I fucking write these down in advance. Okay. Have you guys seen the movie The Favorite? No, I'm about to though. I have the screener. Okay. I'm about to get down. That shit is amazing. That's so underrated. Big fan of that movie. First of all, it's
Starting point is 00:08:16 just so many women being so dope and hilarious. It's a legit funny movie. I heard it just walks this really amazing line between being torturous and hilarious at the same time. Yeah, I tweeted. I was like, hilarious. It's a legit funny movie. I heard it just, like, walks this really amazing line between it being, like, torturous and hilarious at the same time.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah, I tweeted it. I was like, it made me, like, think and it made me horny and it made me, like... Oh, wow. It was a real weird mix of things.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Are those two things possible at the same time? Yes. Jack, watch the favorite. Have you seen Fahrenheit 9-11? That's true. You know my sweet spot.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Guess who's coming to dinner? So this is your underrated, correct? Have you seen Fahrenheit 9-11? That's true. You know my sweet spot. Guess who's coming to dinner? This is your underrated, correct? That is my underrated favorite. Okay, cool. We're going out of order. And also listening to the whole album, okay? I thought that might have been too emo to say,
Starting point is 00:08:55 but I just want to talk about how people don't listen to a whole album of music anymore. It's all, what's the best song? It's all playlists now. What's the single? No. Yeah. Listen to a fucking album i prefer doing it on a tape or vinyl not because i think the sound quality is richer some bullshit which it is it is i know don't write right no um the reason i like it is i read
Starting point is 00:09:20 something a long time ago that made me think of albums in a way that was really cool. And every time I listen to tapes or vinyl, I think about that, which is that people used to, when they made albums, think about the first side and the second side. You're like, how do you want to begin or end this part and this part? Because there's no skipping tracks. There's no skipping tracks. I mean, the vinyl yeah more less so with the tape yeah but it's also like annoying you're not gonna do that so and you get more uh i guess you pay attention more to the music when you physically have to go and flip the thing right to like side b yeah and it makes you connect more with what you're listening to and it used to also be like you would study the liner notes and you would just lay around and like try to the experience of listening to a whole album. I think
Starting point is 00:10:09 like you will rediscover songs in a different way versus just listening to some of your favorite songs. That's all. Well, especially, yeah, I think like Marvin Gaye, What's Going On is a great album if you don't listen to all the way, because like there's a central theme that kind of goes through the entire album and like the's going to the next, and I was like, oh yeah, listening to albums, like in college, I think I had a professor be like, you should listen to albums all the way through, and that blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Also, I think that Blurred Lines case was solved, and I think Robin Thicke and Pharrell owe them like $5 million. Totally. I think that finally just got done today. Oh, they finally did that? Yeah, they lost. They're like, $5 million, bro, sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah, especially albums that were made at the time because that was part of the intent of the- Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. I like to think of them as filmmakers. Wow. My favorite albums tell a story. Where'd that beret come from? Why is he wearing a scarf?
Starting point is 00:10:57 It's hot inside. What is something you think is overrated, Sophia? Overrated? Adding lady endings to jobs. Adding lady endings? Like a comedian? Like a comedian. Like I am so fucking done.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So gender descriptors of occupations. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you're not calling someone a doctoress or a lawyeress, please do me the fucking favor of not calling me a comedian. Presidentress. Even when you're like, people, I think they're being polite. But I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And comedian. Yeah. No, I do the same thing as a, I'm a comedian. Right. That's what I am. You don't need to know I have a vagina in that word. It's just not applicable. They'll know from your set.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah. I mean, obviously, because I open with a vagina dentata bit. Oh, great. That's how everybody. Oh, great. That's how everybody. Oh, good. She's a comedian. That's how they do it. Got it.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Got it. The audience walks immediately. Right. It's easier, though, too, because just give it one thing. Like, you stop saying stewardess or flight attendant. Right. Or not waitress. It's a server.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Right. You know what I mean? Or firefighters instead of firemen. Right. You know? Uh-huh. Okay. We got to move towards that more. Yeah. Podcaster. Yes. You know what I mean? Or firefighters instead of firemen. Right. You know? Uh-huh. Okay. We got to move towards that more.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah. Podcaster. Yes. You know? Yeah. Podcastress is not a thing. Podcastress sounds like an amazing podcast, though. And also, I'm serving you a ham in one hand and a stew in the other, and I'm wearing a
Starting point is 00:12:21 ruffly kind of like- Lunch lady type thing? Yeah. Outfit where I'm like like I'm here to serve right right podcast dress podcast raider I'll take it okay all right
Starting point is 00:12:33 we're accepting that for free okay what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false feminists can be feminine I wrote that in small font I was like Sophia you could do better feminists can be feminine I wrote that in small font And that is a myth Sophia you could do better
Starting point is 00:12:48 Feminists can be or cannot be Can You're saying they can be Yes I just feel like you know It's very trendy To be like feminist Or you know they're hard And they're badass and I think that means to a lot of people
Starting point is 00:13:06 that you can't like be feminine and enjoy shit that people think is like frivolous just because it's feminine right you can be a feminist and like makeup and shave your legs i feel like that's an argument like men have more against feminism right than women themselves because i feel like that's when you see on twitter they're like oh like this, but you're a feminist? Because it's like a very shallow, one-dimensional understanding of feminism. Miles, I wish that was true. You're right. I live in an ideal world when I'm high.
Starting point is 00:13:32 There's a serial thing that was going around of women posting signs being like, I'm not a feminist because it's like – Because I like this thing. Because I like my husband. Right. Because I don't mind that he opens my jar for me these are the kind of things that you don't think that you think women should be immune to like someone else limiting
Starting point is 00:13:52 us but no we're also capable of limiting ourselves women can be terrible too Miles no I think women are great that's feminism Miles men bad women women good. It assumes that feminism is attempting to just erase all differences between men and women.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And to categorize masculine things as better. You know, that a woman that's like, I'm not like other girls. I love beer. I sleep in a football jersey. And I have a dilly dilly back tattoo. I'm not like other girls. I love beer. I sleep in a football jersey. You know, like. And I have a dilly dilly back tattoo. Oh, God. We're like, I love Rick and Morty.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It's like everybody, everybody can like those things. Yeah, right. Exactly. They're not gendered. And it's not, oh, if she likes Rick and Morty, she's better than a girl that just cross-stitched last night instead. It's born out of a very, yeah, I think regardless of your gender or whatever your viewpoint is on it,
Starting point is 00:14:47 it's born out of a very superficial understanding of what feminism is. Because you're like, I think feminism is just like when a woman stomps on a guy's balls. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's it. Yeah. Am I getting that right? You got it.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Great, great. That's why I'm not feminist. Yeah, precisely. I just feel like, you know, we're doing ourselves a disservice to like grade what kind of feminist you are based on what your interests are and then preferring masculine, quote unquote, seeming interests and also gendering interests. Like men have been chefs for like. And artists. More, no, more respected chefs for much longer than women.
Starting point is 00:15:24 But cooking somehow is considered a feminine and domestic thing. So we're getting fucked on two levels. It's like there's not as many women profiting from being chefs and getting as much respect. But at the same time, if you're a man who cooks, it's like either you're gay or being feminine. If you're a woman who cooks, yeah, you're doing domestic shit and you could be doing more important things with your time, but you're gay or being feminine, if you're a woman who cooks. Metro. Yeah, you're doing domestic shit, and you could be doing more important things with your time, but you're not, you dumb domestic bitch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 So, yeah, anyway. My thoughts exactly. Oh, you were saying that's not right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-oh. No, terrible. All right, guys, that's enough about here, the present tense. I want to take you into the future,
Starting point is 00:16:02 where a robot named Boris dazzled audiences at a tech forum near Moscow, and it answered questions, danced, demonstrated skills that not many humanoid robots have. Not many Russians have either. Yeah. Also that. I'll tell you. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:16:20 But yeah, I've long been disappointed by humanoid robots. They suck at walking. They're just idiots. They're good at dancing, doing the robot. Not good at fucking. Not even, really. Okay. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Jack, isn't that what you were saying? I was saying that off mic, but. Oop. Sorry. Well, anyways, Boris, who had given us all hope that the future might be here, turned out to be a human. Just a guy in a suit. Nooid robot about it.
Starting point is 00:16:50 He was just a human in a really good Halloween costume. Yeah, it was a really weird thing where Russian state TV was like, check out Boris in its advanced technology. And then a lot of people in Russia were watching. They're like, yo, how come? People who just had a very elementary understanding of robots are like, check out Boris. Check out the moves on Boris. And then a lot of people in Russia were watching. They're like, yo, how come... People who just had a very elementary understanding of robots were like, where are the outward sensors so it can make sense of where it is in space?
Starting point is 00:17:13 And why is it making so many unnecessary movements as it dances? At one point, when you look at the footage, it looks like a dude in a fucking suit pretending to be a robot. And then people on stage are like, whoa, Boris, look at this robot. And then I think the people who were organizing the technology for him were like, well, we never said it was a robot. We never said that, really.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And you're like, what? Why the fuck would you have this? Your headline was, check out this crazy good robot. Yeah. They were just like, no, no, no, no. We don't know. We never said that. But the wild thing was when you look at the photos from the like, no, no, no, no. We don't, we don't know. We never said that. But the wild thing was like,
Starting point is 00:17:46 when you look at the photos from the thing, you could see the guy's neck from in between the helmet and like where the shoulders start of the thing. But again, you know, it's fun to, I guess, pretend.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah. But the costume was bought from a website. So it was like, it was an expensive suit. It wasn't a cheap ass robot suit. Like it was one of the more, like you had to put your money into this hoax.
Starting point is 00:18:06 But also don't we have a history of cheating with things like that? Russians. Well, I think America too. You guys are the only ones that are good at cheating. I mean, we cheated the Olympics hardcore. We also. I call it winning. It's true.
Starting point is 00:18:20 By any means. We do win a lot. Yeah. But yeah, no, we don't. Didn't we also pretend to have a chess robot at one point that used to beat people and then it turned out it was just a chess master? The Turk. The Turk, right?
Starting point is 00:18:32 The Turk. I think that was a Hungarian dude. Oh, Hungarian. Well, whatever. It's former USSR. I'll take the credit. The Mechanical Turk or Automaton Chess Player. This is actually a thing that has been like a hoax multiple times throughout history.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And it's just, you know, they'll have a thing that looks like a robot. They'll be like, can you beat the amazing chess playing robot? And then it's just a dude like in a suit sitting there playing it. And you're like, yo, the robot sneezed. Yeah, it's the oldest trick and a very simple trick,
Starting point is 00:19:02 but it apparently still works because it fooled the unfoolable RT or whatever Russian state television this was. Guys, earthquakes have been in the news a little bit, and that's always unnerving for us here in L.A. and California. But this time, so the last earthquake was all the way up in Alaska. And this time it was in Tennessee called the New Madrid seismic zone, where all these towns along the Mississippi River just got completely like swallowed by the earth by this like 7.9, I think, earthquake that I think it's one of the top three strongest earthquakes in the history of North America on record. And it basically like it turned the earth. There's this thing called liquefaction where the particles of dirt in the
Starting point is 00:20:10 ground like shake so much that they basically stop cohering together and they like swallow everything on top of them. I don't need this. And it sent tsunamis up the Mississippi River. It was just fucking bonkers. And so that's a thing that they're saying could happen again, basically. Oh, so this earthquake in Tennessee could be related to the New Madrid? It's the same fault zone.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Oh, seismic zone or whatever? Oh, so it is like a fault line that's running along? Yeah. Wow. Cool. I was like, is that fracking? Yeah. Like, nah, nah, nah, it's been there. Wow. Cool. I was like, is that fracking? Yeah. Like, no, no, no, it's been there.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Right. Yeah. But it's crazy because it's like the most dramatic earthquake I've ever heard of. And it was along the Mississippi River. They basically say that if this happened today, Memphis would be gone and St. Louis would be in ruins. What? Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:21:02 What? What? Like it would just swallow up. Like when they say Memphis would be gone, they're saying the damage, it would just level the city? It would just be, yeah. Not the liquefacts thing you're talking about? I don't know about the equifacts thing. I think probably those towns aren't necessarily as much built for earthquakes as Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:21:21 People are there like, yeah, there's earthquakes here, so we need to retrofit everything in the event that shaking. And also because it's landlocked and because of the type of rock that exists in that part of the world, which is like limestone, the rocks don't take the shaking as well. Oh, because it's so rigid. Right. Yeah. Shale in the West is better at containing the shockwaves, basically. Well, perfect. Then we're blessed.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yes. You know? Except we got LA, though, it's basically outlined by fault lines. Yeah. Cool. Yep. Yeah, no, we're all fucked. No, we're safe, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Forget it. But it's like you can get such good juice. That's true. Actually, do they have moon juice in Memphis? Do you guys, do you all, yeah, yeah. Forget it. But it's like you can get such good juice. That's true. Actually, do they have moon juice in Memphis? Do you guys, do you all have moon juice? Doubt it. They're ribs, though.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Oh, they're ribs, though. Not a game. Shout out to Memphis Tenneke. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered.
Starting point is 00:22:31 There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
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Starting point is 00:23:47 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary,
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Starting point is 00:26:00 and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And did we want to talk about the Adderall sufferer-in-chief? Well, this is a great story because it's the intersection of things we all know about,
Starting point is 00:26:33 politics and terrible open mic comedy. Yeah. And, yo, this comedian, quote unquote, named Noel Kassler, took to the stage in New York, I think, and basically just spilled the tea on his time working on The Apprentice and was like, I don't give a fuck about my NDA. Yes. And let's just listen to some of the nuggets he drops. Yeah, it's like he knew he wanted to get some publicity
Starting point is 00:26:56 out of having this crazy information, and rather than doing an interview with ABC, he was like, I'm going to launch my stand-up career because he didn't know how stand-up worked. And here are the results. He's a speed freak. He crushes up his Adderall and he sniffs it because he can't read. So he gets really nervous when he has to read cue cards. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:27:19 This is true. I had a 24-page NDA, non-disclosure agreement. I didn't know then he was becoming president. Now it's no way, dumbass, I'm telling you everything I know. So he gets nervous and he crushes up these pills. That's why he's sniffing when you see him in debates and when you see him reading. That's why he's tweeting, you know, it's like he's out of his mind. It makes sense if you think about it.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Methamphetamine was invented by the Nazis to keep the fighter pilots up all night on bombing runs. Right? So it makes sense that Trump would use it to hate tweet and it's self-centered rage at 4 a.m. on the toilet. So we missed a couple awful jokes. I'm glad Super Producer Nick cut that out because there were some lame-ass jokes about his preference for women. But yeah, he also spilled some tea about when he was doing the Miss Teen USA competition.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Teen USA, mind you. Yeah. He was inspecting their teeth like the fucking Westminster dog show and then being like, if you want to win, meet me in the penthouse.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Mm-hmm. And people were apparently going up. Yeah. And the people who went up were performing well in the competition. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So I don't know what the fuck people would laugh at that story and he would be like, performing well in the competition. Yeah. So I don't know what the fuck even went on there. People would laugh at that story and he would be like, no, I'm serious. Yeah. Which is not usually a good stand-up strategy, but it is a fucking crazy story that this guy apparently had access to. Yeah, working on The Apprentice, saw that he was snoring. I mean, who knows if this is real,
Starting point is 00:28:41 but he was sniffing so goddamn much during those debates where you're like – Yeah. That's when everyone was like, what the fuck is going on with that? And that is definitely something that happens. You start getting – Well, I mean, yeah. You don't want –
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah. I mean, they start farting and shit. I mean, let's be doing that below. But I think – weren't you saying like in the 80s, though, he was like into doctor-prescribed pet pills or something? There was like that – oh, wait, the the 80s, though, he was like into doctor prescribed pet pills or something? There was like that. The doctor said that. Yeah. There was a doctor who prescribed him all sorts of pet pills and like feel good pills. And he yeah, he has like a medical record history that I think people are trying to pull from his doctor's office that either the Secret service came in and like pulled it or something
Starting point is 00:29:26 or like got rid of it. But it was that dude who like looked all shady with the long hair. Like a scummy porn director. Yeah. Oh yeah. Who does not look like a doctor. He's like the doctor that gives you your weed prescription. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Exactly. That's what he looks like. Dr. Lebowski. He checks your fucking blood pressure for two seconds. Yeah. Yeah. You're good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You might want to get your blood pressure checked. Yeah. I forget the specific details, but I know that he was using basically medical speed during the 80s, and then the trail kind of went cold. I mean, there's a type of celebrity who uses their influence and celebrity to get doctors to give them the good shit. Do you mean every celebrity? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Or just any person who grew up on the West Side. A lot of like teetotaling celebrities. Like Elvis never took illegal drugs. He just died of a drug overdose from drugs that like his homie doctor just prescribed to him. Yes. Or Dr. Pepper. Yeah, I think, I mean, that's the same kind of mentality a lot of people who get even
Starting point is 00:30:24 into other prescription drugs do because they're like, well, it's not a drug. And it's easy to just in your mind be like, oh, I'm not a drug addict. I'm taking these things to Dr. Pepper. And that's never gotten anyone in trouble. Yeah. Except for America right now. So we'll see. You know.
Starting point is 00:30:38 And it's also like for sure he's on speed when he tweets. Yeah. In like the middle of the night. Like how else do you think that happens? Yeah. I thought he was just really inspired. He's a man with incredibly poor nutrition. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Of course he would be asleep. Do you know what I mean? He doesn't eat well enough to have energy. He doesn't exercise. He doesn't believe in it. He believes that exercise wears out your machinery. Right. So if you don't believe in any of those things,
Starting point is 00:31:04 I can't imagine you have enough energy to run the country. So of course you're going to be a speed addict. Yeah. Well, there's also that thing he said that he only needs
Starting point is 00:31:12 like what, three hours of sleep a night. I wonder if that's a lie he created because he's just twacked out all night. Right. I only need three hours of sleep. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And I need a screwdriver and some old TVs and a lot of porn. A lot of porn. Just leave me alone. And there was a screwdriver and some old TVs. And a lot of porn. A lot of porn. Just leave me alone. And there was also the dude who he wanted to give the entire Veterans Affairs Department to, who ended up having to pull himself from contentious... Dr. Ronnie, I think was his name.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Ronnie something. One of the things that he got in trouble for was being like a Dr. Feelgood. Yeah, just handing out pills. Yeah, just handing out pills to everybody. And a lot of people were like that. It's funny because there are a lot of people on other administrations who were like, yeah, well, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Take those flights. It's a hard job. You might need a little something to go to sleep. You need something to stay up. No, I don't doubt that. Also, I got to say, Dr. Feelgood always sounds amazing as a job. No. He's not a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:32:00 He makes you feel good. No, he's Dr. Feelgood. Yeah. You should call it something more nefarious, like the killer of Prince. Right. Wow. Something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 There you go. Dr. Yen. Yeah, he killed the king of pop and Prince. Was it the same? No, it's not the same doctor. No, but doctors. Doctors, yeah. Doctors.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Who just did. I don't know how to say no. Enabler doctors. Yeah. Dr. Murder Early's. Yeah, exactly. Dr. Who just did. I don't know how to say no. Enabler doctors. Yeah. Dr. Murder Early's. Yeah, exactly. Dr. Murder Early's. It's better than Dr. Feelgood.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah, no, it's great. We'll workshop that. No, I think we got it. Okay, let's print this shirt. And we just move forward from here. Let's talk about AMI. This is a company that we've been talking about for a long time. Guys, yeah, catch up.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Since before they were in the national spotlight. This is run by a dude named David Pecker, who is a friend of Donald Trump. And AMI publishes National Enquirer, Us Weekly. Most of the tablets, except for, I think, OK. Yeah, there's like two tablets. That aren't AMI. Yeah. But anyways, he's gotten pulled into the entire Trump investigation because he was basically catching killing stories to try and protect Trump.
Starting point is 00:33:19 So he would buy a story and then just not run it in order to protect Trump from, you know, having that story told to another outlet. Right. Well, in this case, now they're saying he's involved now because it's an illegal campaign contribution by paying money for someone to alter or influence the outcome of an election. And yeah, he got caught up in all this shit. And we find out, oh, he has an immunity deal and he's ready to talk about all that that's happened. So at first, we know Michael Cohen got done for doing that.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But there's a lot to say that, oh, well, he's a liar. So we can't really trust his testimony. But now you have people like David Pecker, who's like, well, I can tell you everything. And we have receipts. And there's also his like second in command who also has immunity and can testify but the whole thing with Cohen's plea basically makes it hot for a lot of other entities so AMI was the first one they've basically are now caught up in this and are working with the investigators and also the Trump organization itself and now like you know granted Trump is one of the part of that executive
Starting point is 00:34:23 body that runs the organization but the other people who work there and are part of that decision making are his children's that he loves. So that's Ivanka, Eric. I don't know if he loves him. And Don Jr. Just the one he loves and the others he tolerates. Yeah. And the two. According to how useful they are.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Exactly. And then also this other guy, Allen Weisselberg, who's been the CFO of the Trump organization forever. He was like Fred Trump's accountant. This guy, Weisselberg, also has immunity. So you've got like basically like three other people besides Cohen who can actually attest to what happened and basically say like, yeah, this motherfucker is directly implicated in this felony. It was all done at his direction.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So, yeah, we'll see what happens there. And I think that has also led to a lot of people, especially in the GOP, to begin kind of having to check how they're defending this president because first you have people like orrin hatch who's like i don't care even if it like he's like the democrats are trying to smear this guy and like a reporter's like this is the southern district of new york who's pointing this out he's like i don't care and then grassley is also like he's white it's all good and then but then Marco Rubio is like well we have laws so
Starting point is 00:35:28 maybe you know if you break the laws I guess like maybe you should like answer to said laws I don't know like not really putting his foot in but definitely not defending him and also Bill Cassidy was also kind of saying the same thing so I think it's got Trump a little worried but do you also think
Starting point is 00:35:44 that like part of him when they did the catch and kill on the story of him with the newest like with the Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal. Yes, Karen McDougal. Don't you think part of Trump was like mad that that news didn't get out because he was like
Starting point is 00:36:00 how are people not going to know I hit that? Yeah, right. Well it's also it's a 10 year old fucking story also. I mean, I saw her picture and I was like, he definitely wants this to get out. Yeah. For sure. He's like, yeah, it was pretty good, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Nothing happened. It was a very simple transaction. I don't know. Nothing's wrong. But if there was a transaction, I was pretty good at it. Well, yeah. And I think when you see just how it's getting closer and closer, we're seeing bigger chunks of his fake facade statue start to crumble.
Starting point is 00:36:27 You know, he's apparently, according to NBC, they're saying he's really confided in close aides that he is very worried about impeachment now. He's like, I didn't know I couldn't do that. Right. So maybe we'll see what happens. We'll see. You know, we've got the new Congress coming in, new year. So we shall see where they take it. But yeah, it's definitely looking like it's getting closer and closer to Mr. Trump.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Mm-hmm. So speaking of it being close to the end of the year, Time Magazine has released their Man of the Year, Person of the Year award. And it's basically a combination of journalists who suffered or died to fight injustice, Jamal Khashoggi being one of them. And that kind of ties into the next story we wanted to talk about, because the Senate has now decided to care about Saudi Arabia. And it's not totally clear why they're now deciding to worry about people from Yemen, but they are, which is good. It's just a matter of how are they going to justify it, I guess. Yeah. And how do you move forward? Because so the Senate passed a resolution using the War Powers Act or the War Powers Resolution to end U.S. cooperation with the Saudis in Yemen.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Now, this isn't the end because there's also a similar bill in the House that would have to pass, but the Republicans have procedurally done a lot to basically, they're doing a lot of trickery to make sure it doesn't come to a vote. But those things can change once the Democrats are in the majority come next year. But it's odd because, you know, in the beginning, when a lot of even Democrat senators were confronted with the evidence of what's happening in Yemen over the, what, past three years? Right. They were like, I don't know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And then suddenly, like, after Khashoggi, people were like, oh, okay. Well, let's, I think. So that's what that means? Right. Yeah. Jogji people are like, oh, okay. Well, let's, I think. So that's what that means? Right. Yeah. Well, and then now it's like, well, what reason now have, are they using to begin reevaluating this relationship with Saudi Arabia? Is it the, oh, you know, it was okay when like tens of thousands of civilians are dying
Starting point is 00:38:39 needlessly and children are dying of starvation and widespread famine. That's fine. But now that this journalist got killed, well, hold on now. Is the calculus that we need Saudi Arabia as like a strategic ally? Or is it the freedom of the press angle? Or is it, you know, like it's weird to see how they're going to begin to articulate why they're suddenly now there's the votes, especially in the Senate, to try and do something. Yeah, it's just embarrassment, maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Right. Well, of course. Yeah. I mean, the pressure clearly got to a point where they're like, the Khashoggi thing happened. And then now people are looking at all this other shit. And they're like, yo, what the fuck is going on? There was that picture of the starving girl who was starving because Saudi Arabia had been just bombing the shit out of her town in Yemen. And the ports where any of the aid was going to come to. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And, you know, she was on the front page of the New York Times and captivated a lot of people's attention and was just one of the most horrifying pictures you've ever seen. And then she died on November 1st. Khashoggi died on October 2nd. So it's like, you know, Khashoggi brought attention to this conflict and to Saudi Arabia being just international fuckboys. And so then like the New York Times was motivated
Starting point is 00:39:56 to, you know, send more resources to Yemen. And maybe it's just like the freedom of the press sort of working. I think it's just that the Khashoggi thing made it too hot for them that they finally had to acknowledge how bad the Yemen shit was, too. Right. And I don't think they really gave a fuck because it was only public outrage. Because, I mean, pictures had existed for years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:17 If you wanted to get there, you could figure out what was happening. So it's a dark outcome. You're like, well, I'm glad it happened. But, you know, like what's going on? The other thing, too, is I wonder if they're going to just solely be like, well, it's a dark outcome you're like well i'm glad it happened but you know like what's going on the other thing too is i wonder if they're going to just solely be like well it's all mbs you see that's the problem right that way they can keep the status quo in terms of the relationship the elite alliance between the u.s and saudi arabia just be like well it was mbs that has to go and that's the problem but are you just going to ignore anything that's happened before that
Starting point is 00:40:43 it's you know we'll see what you know, are we really going to actually reevaluate the relationship between the two countries? Right. I don't think we're going to go to war with MBS or, yeah. No, but I mean, they can. Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is not going to back down from what they want to do. If the U.S. spearheaded a thing to be like, yo, you're fucking up, my man. Yeah. That's a huge shift. But I think also too, the fact there's also way too much money in
Starting point is 00:41:10 like the defense industry that is being used in lobbying to keep this thing going on. Because if we pull out of this conflict, that inevitably means less arms sales or, you know, there are a lot of money isn't going to come the other way for people who are trying to arm the saudis yeah and they have a stake in this too so right yeah anyway although trump's argument about like well we have so many so many arms sales that we can't like stop selling them arms or it's going to hurt our businesses is kind of bullshit right it's horrible yeah for what like not not just uh ethically, but also militarily. Don't worry. The people who make these arms will find some group that is a new customer,
Starting point is 00:41:53 and they'll lobby to put them off a list of why we can sell them arms. Right, exactly. It doesn't matter. That's not the case. They're just like, just come on. This is an easy customer we got. I'm a little worried, though, that it's taking us, like, more and more every time to care about a situation. Like, we need, like, oh, this is a picture of a murdered child,
Starting point is 00:42:12 just like the picture of the Syrian child washing up on shore. It's like, do we just need to see children's bodies graphically displaying, like, the fate of the country in order for us to have any kind of real attachment to fixing the situation? Do we only begin to care when it's like so, so dramatic and it shakes us out? And is it getting worse? Because like the news is getting crazy and crazier with like everything Trump is doing
Starting point is 00:42:42 and it's hard to keep the same level of outrage going all the time. So is it just that now it's going to be even harder for us to give a shit? Well, I think it's also on the media too, to keep reminding people it's easy to obscure what's happening. If you only report on shit that's going on in Yemen, like once every six months, you know, there's no, most people, they're not proactive enough in understanding what's happening in the news. They're more passive audiences. So like if you're just talking about all this other shit, it doesn't come to the forefront. And it takes the media being like, hey, this shit, because I mean, look at even like with the gun controllers. So many kids have been killed in mass shootings, but there's still no like, well, I don't know. I don't know what it is, because I think most people are empathetic enough. Like when confronted with that kind of shit, you'd be like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it is because I think most people are empathetic enough.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Like when confronted with that kind of shit, you'd be like, yeah, that's not right. Right. But the leaders also is writing about it. But also like that's not what's being presented to us. Like when you go and see what's trending on Twitter or whatever. Yeah. I mean, no, that's right. So frequently the things that are being served to me in my moments or whatever, it's like those are the things people are clicking on, but they're all really dumb.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And it's hard also from like you have to catch yourself and be like, wait, why am I clicking on what did Chrissy Teigen say now before like I click on, hey, they murdered a journalist or these people are starving to death. So, I mean, it's on us and it's on the media. Yeah, no, you're right. I mean, yes, but there are these huge institutions that are in place that, I don't know, I think it's hard for us to hold people to account for not being more interested in it because I think that's just the problem with Twitter being a news source or, you know, us having these algorithmically derived like editorial institutions. Yeah, but there's also more stories than before about everything because everything is a quote unquote like news source.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Well, I think people have to just confront their privilege too and understand that I also need to be aware of people who have a vastly, nearly antithetical existence to mine. Yeah. That is completely different. And it's uncomfortable, I think, for a lot of people to be like, oh, my God. But like, I don't want to think about it. Like, I think that's a problem. A lot of people, they'll see it and they go, I don't really want to think about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I really don't want to think about it. But, you know, it's usually not until the shit comes to your doorstep that people are like. Yeah, of course. And then it's too late. Right. So, yeah, I don't know. Just please, just keep your eye on shit. I don't know. I don't say, man, if you look at that shit and you're not moved to do something, try and just figure out, like, you know, do what you can to try and move in a direction where you can be more empathetic and not just sort of tune out for your own comfort
Starting point is 00:45:26 right because i think that's the problem for like our own sanity which i know it feels like oh it's part of my self-care but it can't be part of our self-care to like not let the horrible shit in that could make us care about other people right right all right we're right, we're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered.
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Starting point is 00:49:38 Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and we just wanted to check in real quick with a real world villain who puts any movie villain that has ever been invented to shame uh except he's like i guess not he wouldn't make a good movie villain because he's like unless you could kill somebody with douche chills which i think this guy might actually succeed in doing one day yeah uh so this dude is kind of the architect of the gop's economic argument against 15 hourly hourly minimum wage. They picked the worst guy. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:27 So like on- Shockingly. Yeah. On Wednesday, the House Education and Workforce Committee, they had to postpone their presentation where they had this kook economist come up and be like, oh my God, if you start paying people 15 bucks an hour minimum wage, I mean, say goodbye to everything. Right. Because I'm telling you, equality doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Right. And the reason they had to postpone it is because people started looking into this man's past and found a weird ass blog he used to write called No Shades of Gray or Zero Shades of Gray. That was like, it self-described was like, the like no holds barred conservative blog. And he had some problematic automatic takes that were, I mean, so there's one entry where he talks about in response to a story about fast food restaurants having to begin listing calories on food.
Starting point is 00:51:23 He's like, oh, what's next? You know, the government's overreaching. I guess at this point, there should be a gay sex tax and wrote this really long thing about it. And it says, and I'll just read you a little bit so you understand where the geniuses on the GOP are coming from. It says, in gay sex, we have an activity that is clearly leading to disastrous health consequences.
Starting point is 00:51:43 What rational person would engage in this sort of activity? There is only one solution. Let's tax it. So he's likening the, not just having a fucking deeply homophobic take on that, but, you know, the government stepping in because too much calories is bad for us. And then he says, come on, Sabia. You say his name is Joseph Sabia. How are you going to enforce these taxes?
Starting point is 00:52:04 You're going to send government officials to peep in everyone's bedroom? Eventually. But first, we have to mount the assault on big gay. No, I'm not talking about Rosie O'Donnell. We can tax gay nightclubs. Classic Rosie joke. Websites, personal ads, sexual paraphernalia. So anyway, this guy's out here really-
Starting point is 00:52:20 Why do conservatives only have like two punchlines? That's crazy how bad they are. Because I don't know if you noticed, they're not good at comedy. They're really bad at it. Because comedy requires empathy. Right. Yeah. I really, I just don't understand.
Starting point is 00:52:32 There's no, the creativity coming from the right, I don't understand why it's so terrible. Right. Like there's not, remember the It's Okay to Be White guy? That track was kind of a banger. But not really. He was ripping off existing material. Right. I mean, you know, there's no Beyonce be white guy. That track was kind of a banger, but not really. He was ripping off existing material. Right. I mean, you know, there's no Beyonce on the right.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Do you remember how sad it was when Trump was trying to book musical acts for the inauguration? Because no people who are right wingers make good music. Right. Exactly. He's like Ted Nugent, I guess. I don't fucking know. He's going to play a machine gun, I guess, as a guitar. But then he also, this man, Joseph Sabia, the economist, he also, he's like an incel, too.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Like a very early incel, just based on his description of college women. Right. It says, as women have strayed from the church. Okay. Good start. They have replaced what is holy with what is temporally pleasing. For Catholics, the model woman was Mary, the virgin mother of God. Okay. Good start. Okay, he keeps going, keeps going. He says,
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yep, nailed it. sex in the city and the floozies on friends to set their moral compasses. Additionally, other sex-based relationships have become commonplace. In recent years, a new and disturbing arrangement known as, quote, friends with benefits has emerged. In this arrangement, men are not even forced to perform the normal duties of boyfriends, i.e. flowers, Valentine's Day cards, rides to the abortion clinic. Okay. And it said, instead, girls consider these guys just friends whom they happen to screw every clinic. Okay. And it said, instead, girls consider these guys just friends
Starting point is 00:54:06 whom they happen to screw every now and again. This type of arrangement is the next logical step in the direction that young women have drifted in the last few decades.
Starting point is 00:54:14 These women have become unpaid whores. At least prostitutes made a buck off of their trade. These women just give it away. Oh, wow. So that's the kinds of people that they have to present as experts on shit.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Everyone's, they're just, you know, really bad open mic comedians. He is an expert on not ever getting any. Yeah. So again, just the kinds of experts, only the best people. And everyone has this like shitty incel background, I guess. Let's go with a news story that that guy would not be able to make sense of in his worldview. And that is a recent statistical analysis
Starting point is 00:54:52 that found that women-led films do better at the box office. Sophia is opening a bag of Pirates of the East. I gave up on it. Just open it. Yo, watch your stress open it. I, I'm not going to eat during this. Okay. I was going to.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I just had to let people know. There's a lot of tension in this room. It's a lot of tension because this Pirate's Booty is looking at me. Needs to be eaten, gobbled up. So, yeah. So women are doing better, huh? Yeah. All budget levels.
Starting point is 00:55:18 So it's not just, you know, blockbuster movies. It's all budget levels. you know blockbuster movies it's all budget levels it's almost like women are 50 of the population and are as relevant to the human experience that's crazy as men whoa feminist what's that about right me off the show but movie studios are paid like movie executives are paid to read the zeitgeist and they have spent the last, like, I don't know, five, 10 decades,
Starting point is 00:55:49 uh, saying that like women led movies don't do as well. Right. And then finally enough movies that star women have come out and they did a statistical analysis. And I still, I still doubt that this changes anything but uh yeah i mean yeah there's also i think that whole thing also showed a clear it's
Starting point is 00:56:11 still white man central yes but despite the fact that diverse casts and female-led casts have done way better yes the other thing was that since 2012 every film that has gone on to pass $1 billion in global box office has passed the Bechdel test. Right. Think about that shit too. I love that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:56:32 Also shout out to the Bechdel cast if you don't know, if you don't know about the Bechdel test, check that podcast out on this here network. Yeah. But yeah, I didn't even realize
Starting point is 00:56:40 that dimension of all this. But this is a very common thing to be told in Hollywood and they say it with people of color this. But this is a very common thing to be told in Hollywood. And they say it with people of color too. My husband was making a TV show and was casting a black woman as the lead. They were like, oh, even black people don't like to watch black people on TV. Oh, I'm sorry, white guy. And Max was like, what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:57:04 Right. What do you mean? How could that possibly be true in any way that like people don't want to see themselves represented? Anybody doesn't want that. That's an insane thing. There's so many things that
Starting point is 00:57:17 show that representation matters and affects like, oh, if you can't see it, you can't be it. Anyway. I think it's like even with politics, you have this whole subset of the old generation still basically at the levers they don't want to let go even with the evidence in front of them like because even now you look at politics they're like what are you talking about people want maternity leave or this other shit yeah they can't just quite get over despite all the evidence that says you're fucking up.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And yeah, we see this too in the entertainment industry where many of the decision makers still have this very terrible mindset. But I guess now as the box office returns show, oh, well, these are winners. Profit will ultimately guide them to the light. Yeah, you'd think so. I mean, it's like,
Starting point is 00:58:02 you would think that profit comes first, but I think it's like if it also affirms our long-standing yeah uh like you know patriarchal and uh white people oriented world like if it confirms that it's way easier to believe those numbers than when it's like hey uh actually the opposite thing is supported by numbers. Then you're like, wait a minute, that doesn't confirm to my worldview. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And I mean, movies still remain dominated by white male actors or white male led movies. And there's no excuse at this point other than just the fact that there is a, you know, residual abundance of white men in the Hollywood infrastructure. And the smart business thing to do would be to have the most diverse staff and make the most diverse movies. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Because it'll speak to a multitude of people. There is an opportunity. And I mean, this is- And also, it's more interesting. It's like the argument for not having all male comedy lineups or all white people comedy lineups, anything. If you think you're funny now, Brad, wait till four other Brads aren't right after you. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you're confident in your talent, then like it'll only shine when it's contrasted to other people's talent. Yeah. This goes back to a study I love talking about, but where they found that people who were in more diverse groups when compared to a control where it was people in homogeneous groups. So the more similar the people were, the groups were less successful at the task they were doing, but they were more likely to be very confident in it. And because it was like easy for them to- Reaffirming, like, yeah, we're all on the same page.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Right. Because they arrive at whatever decision they wanted to arrive at. It was easy because they all agreed with one another. It's just that the product was worse. Whereas people who were in more diverse groups had less confidence because their process was more conflict ridden, but it also resulted in a better product. And I mean, this is true across everything. Like the more diversity you have in a culture, the more open exchange of ideas you have, the more success, the more technology moves quicker. And the reason that technology and discoveries and medicine is moving so fast right now is despite authoritarian tendencies right now at the top of different Western countries, we're still about as free as we've ever been. And the reason there were fucking no technological or medical advances during the Dark Ages
Starting point is 01:00:47 is because ideas and people were not free. And it was just a couple of white people at the top deciding who could talk to who. So yeah. Look at us now. Look at us now. And the people look hotter when you let everybody mix up. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:02 You know what I mean? Yeah. And also when you give them, what is it in their salt? The calcium? What? Iodized salt. Yeah, that's because... No goiters. Yeah, in the dark ages... That really makes you not hot.
Starting point is 01:01:15 In the dark ages, everybody had like facial goiters because they weren't getting enough iodine and then once we started iodizing our salt, we all became way hotter. Oh, really? People look like bogus? Gerard Depardieu character? Things coming out of your...
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah. Wow. That was one of the greatest leaps forward in human fuckability. Was that just in Western Europe? Or we got goiter faces like in Asia too? I think it was just when we started iodizing our salt. I think that was not happening in a lot of different places. I also think it was just when we started iodizing our salt. I think that was not happening in a lot of different places. I also think it was probably the goiters were more common in Western Europe because Western European people were filthy as fuck.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Right, right. When they came to the New World, they found Native American people to be like incredibly beautiful and like clean and well kept compared to them. Because they thought bathing was bad for you. Right. They thought bathing was literally terrible for you. They're like, they all smell good. Their hair's all shiny and silky, not matted, greasy. Oh, I just have one dreadlock.
Starting point is 01:02:18 You can strike a match off it. Go ahead. Go ahead. And just while we're on the subject of box office watch, I wanted to talk about a claim Netflix is making that their Kurt Russell Christmas movie, The Christmas Chronicles, well-named, is they're claiming the number one movie of the year, essentially. What? Because in its first week, it was viewed 20 million times which would be the
Starting point is 01:02:46 equivalent of making 200 million dollars at the box office um but they did it right but they didn't they didn't put it out in theaters which they totally could have done but that's the same thing they do with bright too weren't they like oh this movie would have done really well right right yeah but still it is frustrating. This is something we've been talking about this week, how frustrated I am by the fact that there are these huge companies that have all this information about us that they just won't let out. Right. And so there's all the companies that made our locations a $21 billion industry. our location's a $21 billion industry.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And Netflix just also doesn't release anything about like the shit that we're actually watching unless there's like some big project they- You just want to know who watched that Kurt Russell movie. You want to detail this- Who was it? God damn. Who it was. I'm surprised they didn't even go any further.
Starting point is 01:03:37 They're like, and assuming that not like in one viewing, there's probably at least one other person there. We're looking at, I mean, $3 billion. Right, yeah. Plus shared Netflix accounts. I mean mean we don't know how many motherfuckers are really watching yeah so yeah i think the the most they've done was like right at the end of the year didn't their like twitter account like started calling people out they're like to the one person who watched uh avatar 900 times this year who hurt you remember like they were getting weird on their messy on their twitter last year yeah yeah well that was like a thing they thought was like cute like a funny thing
Starting point is 01:04:09 to be like who watched they were like that wendy's account is mouthy oh it was lord of the rings thank you anna yes it was the lord of whoever watched lord of the rings like 300 times what the fuck happened right and it's like that's funny except you're seriously paying a lot of attention to us and judging us all. Yeah. And not telling us what you're finding out. I wonder if they just know so much, though. They're like, yo, we can't even let people know how much we know. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Because it's too hot. Yeah. Because I'm sure you can really juxtapose that with some psychographic data and be like, oh, wow. Learn some things you don't want to know about yourself. There are five kinds of people based on our Netflix viewing habits. The other thing that's somewhat foreboding about Netflix is that they're so deep in the hole. They're spending way more than they're making.
Starting point is 01:04:55 And so it suggests that there's like some end game where they start making money off of us. Right. Off of all the information they've learned about us from like their psycho graphics and you know the things that told them to make that Ashton Kutcher sitcom the place on a ranch that's like like they know all this shit about us that is just kind of profane and weird and somehow they're planning on monetizing it or they'll just get bought by Apple, which would also be scary, I think, because they'd be too big and powerful.
Starting point is 01:05:30 But anyways, yeah, it's not clear how anything works inside Netflix. So you only get like their product and how much they're spending on different shit to make sense of it all. And none of it really makes sense. Yeah, well, I don't know. Because I think a lot of other companies
Starting point is 01:05:47 are getting wise to what Netflix is doing. And they're like, well, fuck it. We'll just take our shit, all of our IP, and all the things we own, and make our own streaming shit. That's why a lot of those Marvel shows are getting canceled. Because they're like, well, don't worry.
Starting point is 01:05:58 When Disney starts their thing, they're like, we'll just reboot it over here. Because we own that IP anyway. Right, right. So, which will suck. Because then you're going to be fucking subscribing to like nine different things because it used to be centralized and then maybe that could be the end of it for them because the other films they count on that in their as part of their library will begin migrating towards the streaming platforms of
Starting point is 01:06:17 those like networks or studios right and then they're left with just their originals and like terrible other shits i mean i, I watch all them shits. So I'm still here. I'm still here for you Netflix. Look, as long as there's Married at First Sight, Honeymoon Island, I'm going to be fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're good. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And this is where you guys start talking about 90 Day Fiancé for like three weeks. Okay, we're not going to because you are salty about it. Don't worry. Sophia and I, we're having an in-depth conversation after this. Anyway, Sophia, it has been up to this point. Really great having you. Where can people find you and follow you? You can listen to my podcast with Courtney Kosak,
Starting point is 01:06:53 Reality Bites, Bites with a Y. And you can find me at the Sophia everywhere. T-H-E-S-O-F-I-Y-A. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes, there is. The tweet is by Anya Volz. And the tweet is, relationships are so casual these days.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Nobody actually has an anniversary anymore. They're like, October 14th is the day he responded to my Instagram story for the first time. And it's like, where did all the romance go? Why can't my dad trade me for livestock anymore? Ugh, take me back. That's great. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at
Starting point is 01:07:33 Miles of Gray. And a tweet that I like is this is when Anna showed me from Reductress earlier. It's a woman crying with Christmas lights and a wreath in her arms, and it says, All I want for Christmas is your approval. The woman looks so tortured.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Love it. Nice delivery. Yeah. A pictorial tweet. Thank you so much. Another one just applies to our office is, How to cut out all the people who are not obsessed with your dog. God. Got to respect people's dogs, right?
Starting point is 01:08:12 Yes. Or it will get hot. We certainly don't do that enough. Well, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I enjoyed from Super Producer Anna Hosnia. She tweeted, this is real and happening on 12-21. That is the live read of Santa University. A live stage reading, December 21st, 8 p.m.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Be there. You'll see some favorites there. You will see some favorites there. You'll miss some other favorites there. And another tweet I was enjoying is WDSU tweeted, this Sesame Street Muppet will become the first to experience homelessness. And Deon Gata, shut the fuck up, tweeted, Oscar the Grouch been living in a trash can for 49 years.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Exactly. Which is true. And the best names to bring more attention. Oh, did he? He was like, Oscar, you're such a grouch. He was like, bitch, I live in a fucking trash can. Ah, he good. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:09:13 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. As well as the song we write out. Miles, what song are we going to write out? Let's go out on a little remix by Flying Lotus of a Brandon Coleman song called Walk Free. So this is Walk Free, the Fly Low remix.
Starting point is 01:09:39 And you know, everybody just go into your weekend walking freely. Okay? Honor yourself, honor your spirit, and honor your desires. Love you, Uncle Miles. I'm saying I love my Uncle Miles. Bye. We're going to ride out on that. We'll be back on Monday.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Enjoy your weekend, everyone. Bye. Bye. Walking through the dark, with you by my side It's all I ever needed, with that look in your eye Moments into memories, as the day goes by Each second with you, makes it to a light Walking through the dark, walking past the dark, I believe in me. Talk with me, talk with me.
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