The Daily Zeitgeist - Is There A Plan? Amazon Running Out Of Exploitable Humans 06.28.22

Episode Date: June 28, 2022

In episode 1276, Jack and Miles are joined by storyteller and lead creative strategist for Salted Logic, Hina Wilkerson, to discuss… What’s the plan Dems?, White Christian Men Are So Horny to Be The One Thing They Can’t Be In America- Oppressed for Being White And Christian And Men, Leaked Amazon memo - "We are running out of labor to exploit..." and more! What’s the plan Dems? Democratic women call on Biden, Congress to protect abortion rights White Christian Men Are So Horny to Be The One Thing They Can’t Be In America- Oppressed for Being White And Christian And Men Leaked Amazon memo - 'We are running out of labor to exploit...' LISTEN: For You by Kadhja BonetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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take care, and spread the word. Also, a big thank you to Ariel Nissenblatt of the Earbuds Pod Collective for putting this together because this is a just monumentally important message to get across to all podcast listeners thanks hello the internet and welcome to season 243 episode 2 of their daily zeitgeist a production of my heart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness uh it is tuesday june 28th 2022 which means miles oh, June 28th, 2022, which means, Miles. Oh, June 28th, 2022? I know what to do. It's National Logistics Day.

Yes. Also, National Paul Bunyan Day. So shout out to fucking white people myths. Yeah. Logistics Day. Who needed that? Who is passionate enough about logistics that they thought, we need to stop and appreciate these things. I mean, hey, with all the supply chain issues, you know, and maybe like now you care about logistics, huh? Okay.

Not just June 28th every year. But yeah. Paul Bunyan. I've been corrected. but yeah paul bunyan i've been corrected did you wasn't there i feel like at the old shitty universal tour there was like a paul bunyan like just statue and i was like this isn't even from a fucking movie like why is this here it's from fargo maybe is that no this shit was like i remember in the 80s the giant who had the ox yeah with the big blue ox. Babe, the blue ox. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Much more interesting. Talk about a sidekick that outshines the star.

Right. They're like, yo, look at that big dude. It's like, yeah, man, Paul Bunyan, what's up? It's like, no, no, no, wait, what's up? Whoa, whoa, whoa. That blue ox. There's two weird things about that ox. I'll tell you what.

Right. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. The Thirst Baja Bls and the blast shall end thirst basic instructions before drinking surf and that is a baja blast themed basic instructions before leaving earth thing that i just thought of as i was gazing upon they have baja Blasts and bottles on store shelves right now. Also, Baja Gold and Baja Mango Gem, which I have at hand. Oh, my God. He just picked up. He just splashed all those on screen.

I got three flavors of the blasts that I will be taste testing to distract me from our crumbling country. And I will be letting you know how they taste. Does Baja gold really taste like baja gold i don't like weed this is like this slightly smarter version of idiocracy where the baja blast taste test isn't to like distract from like the thing and not talk about it but be like to deal with our crumbling it nation i will now be taste testing Baja Blast. As we, yeah, just to get through the conversation. Well, anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

It's Miles Gray, aka the Lord of Lancashire, was twisting up crazier than Hideo Nomo himself. Call me Ho noho and a new actual nickname i will call myself tasip kweli because i can't i can't help myself but partake in the blast because i bought a 12 pack of y'all i drank three before bed last night miles it's because it's a drink before bed i don't have my ac on because like i have like like old sometimes I keep it off, and I'm like, fuck, it's hot. Let me crack over another Baja Blast. And that, again, was the only thing. Oh, right.

Because you are the most caffeine insensitive person. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That has nothing to do with it. In the history of the universe. That might as well be Dimetap PM. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I feel like they wouldn't even put that in

a baja blast commercial someone like slamming one and then like going off to sleep i feel like that that's not on brand that is not blast behavior for sure for sure well miles we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant storyteller who is the lead creative strategist for salted logic working in everything from fine art to technology to academia to conservation. It's Hina Wilkerson! Hina! What's up? Hello. Lovely to be back.

Lovely to have you back. How are you doing? You know, I've had better days. I've had better weeks. Lots happening. had better days i've had better weeks yeah lots lots happening and i feel i'm sad and i'm desensitized and i'm horrified and i'm not shocked and i'm all of those things at one time right yeah which i think is probably the most unsettling like most fucked up place to be where you're like i've like my i've burned out a lot of my other receptors and i'm also

expecting that i'm going to be just terribly disappointed that's really fucks it up too yeah well i feel like on tiktok especially there's a lot of white women that are making references to um the handmaid's tale and saying things like may the lord open can you believe i'm wearing my red coat and blah blah blah and blah. And it's like, girl, we've been here, you know, like we've been knowing.

So welcome. I have empathy, but babe. Yeah. I'm like, Oh, you just got to the party. Oh,

okay. So the flyer, relax, girl, we're going to be here for a while. It does. The bar never closes. For real. Oh man. All right. Well right well we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a

couple of things we're talking about we're gonna ask the democrats what the plan what's what's the plan we we knew this was coming for months where where are we at what what are some things that can be done also the supreme court hits just keep coming we uh the prayer at a public school basically being being all right and i i think it underlines this thing about like white christian cis men are like so horny to be the one thing they can't be in America, which is like oppressed for being Christian and men. And so I want to talk about that a little bit because it ties into the Supreme Court ruling. We're going to talk about some leaked Amazon memos. But before we get to any of that shit you know we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history thank you for asking because i truly did go into the history this is

not for the bit this is true uh christine brown interviews sister wives 2022 i don't know if you're familiar with the tlc show sister wives okay but it's about Cody Brown, the patriarch of a fundamental Mormon family. And they've had a TLC show for like 17 years and recently one of their wives is saying I'm done. Cody, you're an asshole. I'm through with this. And so when the world explodes

and I can't look at that drama, some people kind of move back and they do yoga or they take a break i want to lean in but i want to lean in to like some meaningless shit yeah yeah you know i can't read the news but i do want drama i do want tea but just make it about this mormon white woman and then i spend hours and hours looking into has she done any interviews what's she up to now she has a hobby she has a cooking show she lost a lot of weight christine's doing great

so is she doing like spawn con she live in that like influencer life or what yeah well they they their whole life is like being mormon and having this show but now she has a show called cooking with only christine a little dig at oh with only the only literally that's in the fucking title wow or with it with just christine that's what i came for right she said look bitches i've been done you stay with that man with the balding head but i'm right i'm through i'm the only chris with only christine over here just christ. It's wild. You know, it's funny how so many people, myself included, like when you are so engaged with the news

and current events and have to like really be analytical and think critically about it, like day in and day out. So many people retreat to garbage reality TV. Like, it's wild how I'm seeing this too. Like, even like, I bring up Cerise Castle, who,

you know, just one, I believe like just received an award for her reporting on like gangs in the LA Sheriff's department. Who's like, you know, one of the most brave journalists I've ever seen constantly dealing with death threats and stuff. And then I'm talking about 90 day and I get DM like,

Hey man, I want to come on the podcast about 90 day fiance. And I'm like, wait, what? I'm like over here thanking you for your work you're like i love 90 and it i i see like how it's pretty much the opposite of what it means to be like engaged it's just that's the reality i want to be in you know what i mean it makes the

world look so two-dimensional and it's comforting and you can just like accept the vision of the world they're giving you and you're like like accept the vision of the world they're giving you and you're like great no notes this is right right right you're right you should move back to utah christine cody is an asshole yes that's all that matters way back to utah she wasn't in utah yes so they fled utah because they were criminalizing it and went to las vegas and lived in this cul-de-sac these four houses like a little they all have this whole family cul-de-sac with these four houses like a little, they all have this whole family cul-de-sac and then they move to Arizona for some reason. But Christina, she's feeling her heart being drawn

back to Utah because it's not a crime anymore and she wants to live her truth, but I think she's going to move into monogamy. Okay, Christina. Yeah, I've spent days. My life is 100% Christina. When I Google Sister Wives, I get autocompletes of season season 17 so this has been

going on for for a while sister yes i think they have like 25 kids right like since the days of big love yeah yes lots of babies you know i mean i feel like it like it came on the heels of big love almost got it i don't think I've ever seen Big Love. It was like an HBO prestige show. That was about a similar scenario with three connected homes with very different... I think three wives, right?

And then Bill Pullman? Yeah, nailed it. I'm getting so good. I don't think I've misidentified a Pullman-Paxson in a while. I'm getting so good. I don't think I've misidentified a Pullman Paxton in a while. So my training has paid off. I think I just said his name wrong, but

I think it is. It's Paxton, isn't it? Paxton, yeah. I said Paxton like he's Jim or John. The one who passed away, right? Oh, yeah. See? Big Love came out 2006. Sister Wives Season 1, 2010. There it is. I felt like that was like that sort of brought in the conversation. We're like Season 1, 2010. There it is. I felt like that brought in the conversation.

We're like, yo, there's the real life version up the street we can talk about. What about this reality show? Why this instead of 90 Day Fiancé? Yeah, thank you. That's the hard question. I think that 90 Day Fiancé feels too gimmicky and it's almost like too easy for me to understand. Like I get getting to a place in your life, not that this applies to everybody, but like you're sad and you just want something exciting. And wouldn't it be crazy to marry someone from another country and bring them over?

And like, you just want to be messy. I get that feeling. I can connect to it. I was there two weeks ago. be messy. I get that feeling. I can connect to it. I was there two weeks ago with sister wives, right? Where they all have this religious aspect and they've all been together for so long. And then you have the new wife, Robin, who is clearly the favorite and he's spending all this time with her because they have young children. And then the three wives were like, no, I'm so okay with this. I don't even like spending every night with my husband because actually I'm like, I have all these hobbies. And then they like get so deep into like,

and it's this huge like sunk cost fallacy, right? They have all these fucking kids. It's all intertwined. Once you're unhappy, what do you do at that point? And in the last interview, Christine says that she was like thinking about renovating and she was like, well, we'll put our our room on the opposite side of the house so we can have some intimacy and then she asked cody like do you even think we'll need that anymore and he's like nah not really i mean you can just put the house like put the rooms anywhere and she was like he didn't even like take that as a very clear like no look do you even need that shit anymore man and he was like instead of being like what do you mean

oh my god of course we still need it exactly of course i love you number three and even in my darkest days even in my darkest i don't think i could ever do that much mental gymnastics knock on wood but like they're all participating in this like kind of shared delusion. Oh, I fucking love it. It's like more nuanced. 90 Day Fiance is too simple. Right. Because 90 Day Fiance, very easy to wrap your head around like the interpersonal drama. This takes like interpersonal drama and then puts like a seventh, seven dimensions on top of it. There's like Heavenly Father.

And then they're white from Utah, but now they're in Las Vegas. Right. Stifling, actually communicating your needs to a partner every time. Yeah, I feel it. Right. Amazing. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated?

I'm going with Amazon reviews. And what I mean by that is I feel like there are certain people in the world we need. We need people to make compilation videos on YouTube. We need people to write reviews. They're the backbone of society and i'm certainly not going to do it but i feel like amazon reviews at this point are either a right paid for by a company five stars it's the best product ever no notes or b it's people who are like egregiously lying to get their review on one of those like craziest amazon review lists and so they like make up this elaborate lie about like i ordered this grill for my son and it came with all these

bullet holes on the side and i've had paranormal activity ever since it's like a complete lie right right and so now it's like it's not even fucking helpful anymore. The first top result is like, hmm. Yeah. Had somebody found physical proof that an afterlife does exist, I'd probably learn about it in an Amazon review. That's probably where it would first show up. That's where the CIA initially had the reports about the aliens. They were like, kind of soft launch it on Amazon.

Yeah. See how that revelation does on amazon first weather balloon that real quick but it is wild like i i i realize now you're right like i never look at the amazon reviews but i don't i didn't really consciously think there's too many glowing reviews because there are times like you know when i would use prime much more like frequently when i was less disturbed by jeff bezos like where I'd be like, yeah, man, sure, that fucking power cable sounds good, and it comes, and that shit, like, busts in three seconds, but you get sort of,

you get sort of hypnotized by the amount where it's like, dude, 7,000 reviews on it, and it's four and a half. That's got to mean something. Well, it just means probably 7,000 people made the same fucking mistake you're about to. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the reviews. We now think that amazon is cheaper like amazon's not cheaper

like you use it as like a google tool and then you go to that person's website and it's always cheaper somewhere else yeah and the other thing is too if it's like anything that's like you know not you being like i need a brita filter or some shit. If it's like some other stuff, almost every website you go to, I think this happens every time you go to some retail website. It says, hey, man, you want 15% off your first order type shit. So you're already going to pay less than retail. So let it rip. let it rip you know but i was gonna say the review that i love the most in terms of like you know what the what i get joy out of is the one where you can tell somebody just having a terrible day and they're taking it out on a business yeah you know what i mean because

it's so that's another one like the transparent lies are fun to read and then the transparently like oh let me guess you last minute planned this birthday dinner for your wife and then when they fucked up and then she didn't like the vibe of it. Now you decided to write a five page screed about how they lied to you. Right. And like the complaint doesn't fully make sense. No. Like you can. Yeah.

There's like no actual complaint there. You're just like, yeah. I love when they come back with the where it went, when the organization comes back with the like super polite, full, like clap back. Yeah. Clap back. That's just like,

Hey, we actually remember you. It was so great serving you. And unfortunately the thing you're talking about didn't happen. And what happened instead was that you showed up and all your credit cards got declined. And then you got racist with trying to start a fight with somebody who is clearing your table. so but yes exactly love to continue to hear from you and continue this dialogue

yeah because that's like the best way to neutralize it like because i had a friend who's you know his his partner was a business owner and we're getting those yelp comments like like they were fucking fighting for their life and And I was like, that's a worse look. Like when you're like, um, actually, no, you were being fucking rude and I don't want to fucking hear it as a business owner. I deal with them like, you could kill them with kindness too, or just not.

Yeah, it does feel like you have a lot of time on your hands, right? The person leaving a review, like waited in the front lobby for three hours and they're like, uh, excuse me. And they're like, that's review, like waited in the front, the front lobby for three hours. And they're like, Oh, excuse me. And they're like, that's what you were doing in the lot in the back. Well, I waited in the lobby. You were writing reviews, responding to all these Yelp people. Yeah, no, I wasn't. Hold on. Here's video of me of you asking why the appointments late. You said, hold on. I have to finish this Yelp response. What is something you think is

finish this yelp response what is something you think is underrated google flights that's all you need you don't need kayak you don't need it right now you don't need you can learn what the prices are going to be for like nine months into the future and you can just put a destination you don't need to say from where to where you don't need to say it just shows you all your options and i've never found it cheaper somewhere else besides flights yeah i tried that sorcery is this fucking google they own all the info they better have the best fucking flight comparison service they have all the fucking data like i would be pissed exactly google couldn't do that shit but all the information i've been giving you in gmail and yeah exactly you've been reading all my emails for 15 years the least you can do is put it towards uh getting me good flights yeah exactly right you do want to

put on private though because if you put where you want to go you will start getting ads for like right and sometimes some things they track like if you've been on a site multiple times they'll they'll they'll slightly bump the price up i know with like a hotel listing to try and like coerce or catalyze you to be like actually yeah i don't want to miss that deal hey i didn't hear you endorsing uh duck duck go flights okay so and i stand by that mess with duck duck go is Yeah. Good for your privacy. 100% terrible for getting your consumer goods. Unfortunately, that is their one point. But yeah, like the other cool thing too, is you can just put where you want to fly out of

and the dates and it's like, here's what it's gonna cost to go across the world this time. And then you can really open like it really does feel like you're spinning a globe or being like well oh okay cool i can go to phoenix for 350 that's too much yeah yeah it'll show you right like for a seven-day trip here's every city by price so if you just like want to go on a trip for seven days they'll be like oh well miami will be 300 bucks, but Canada on this weekend is 200 bucks or something like that. I'm actually doing a search right now because we have a trip back east coming up that I need to get flights for. You got to do that right now?

It does not want me to... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could you guys just hold on for a second? Stop talking. Oh, no. Stop talking. Stop talking. Why do I need...

Just you do your thing. I can't talk while you search? It does keep telling me that I want to go to the Philippines andines and not philadelphia which is nice of them you're going to manila maybe maybe that's what we should do instead all right yeah but so this is basically like what kayak but better like what kayak yes to be okay correct nice and you don't have to do all the pop-ups i feel like those like sites take forever to load. I just love how Jack is so sincerely engaged with this.

I think it was meant sincerely. He was like, yeah, yeah. I'm into it. I mean, I'm not trying to gatekeep this anymore. Right, right, right. I'm letting it go to the world. I'm not afraid. You know?

Yeah. Thank you. I want to give people tools. Exactly. Please help that little alphabet company out. Yeah. Well, and you may need to travel because things have changed where you're living. Right.

So if you're looking for cheap flights. Just keep an eye out. No flights. Like I.I. Captain. There you go. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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It was total chaos. Biden said, you know, just sort of gave a speech, strongly worded, but essentially saying like, you know, that the administration would prioritize access to contraception and abortion medications and allowing people to move freely to seek medical care. Pelosi, you know, as we touched on, read a poem and then said, this is bad. Y'all should vote in November. That wasn't very inspiring. So none of that felt very comforting. I mean, the closest thing to a plan was probably when like the draft opinion like leaked and he was getting pressed by Democrats to be like, maybe you should do something through an executive order. If we know this is coming, maybe is that something?

Not much of that happened. So things are a little more active, like on the state level, at least, you know, there, there Democratic like the Democratic governors of California, Oregon and Washington. They're launching what they call a West Coast of offense, essentially to protect access. And in that means that like as these three states that, you know, they are going to set up protections against states that are going to target medical professionals who provide abortions or people who are seeking them. It also says like, we're not going to, we're not going to cooperate with any out of state police over this kind of shit, like miss us with that. We're not going to help you at all. And also we'll not be extraditing people, especially if this is related to accessing legal reproductive healthcare. So, you know, those those there's also legal challenges and all this kind of comes together with, I think, a lot of people still wondering, like, what can we do right now?

Because that's also a very, I think, not often spoke about dimension of what's happening right now. I feel like when you turn on the news, everything's like, yeah, you know, we got to vote. Here are some legal challenges that are happening. But I feel like completely misses the human beings at this moment who are going to find themselves in a state that is going to restrict their access to, you know, reproductive care and what their options are and what they might be experiencing. And everything seems to be like in this future world where no one might need any access to an abortion right now or in the next month or two months. Yeah, it's all kind of coming together with, I think, a lot of people scratching their heads while also beginning to coalesce around certain messages. But I think the most prominent

one is about voting in November. And the ultimate critique of the Democratic party is that they were letting this hang out there so they had it as a a thing to get people to vote i heard people being like well pelosi in the house like encoded through abortion access like back back in the fall but like in terms of functionally doing that like it's just it's weird to me that like mansion and collins were both like this is bullshit but like nobody followed up and was like all right so let's so like i'm in your office right now let's let's like get some shit done and instead it was it was just like they issued strongly worded statements the president issued a strongly worded speech. Pelosi, like, read a poem, but, like, it's all about, like, feeling pain and, like, getting people to vote in the future. And, like, that just seems so

transparent to me. And I feel like people can't help but see that, right? I think there's a part of me that, you know, on one hand, I have all this empathy for, like, education is so important to be able to understand the legal process and to have a critical eye and be able to think about the semantics. But I also know that that's, like, that education and access isn't available to everybody. But it's, like, how much grace are we supposed to give, right? There's a certain point where you grow up and you have a responsibility to contribute to your community have some awareness have some respect for other people i don't know it all feels fake like we're living in a semi like it's bullshit no i you know and like you, I've heard from people saying, like, we need to inspire Democrats to action to not drag people down. And I feel like that is such a disingenuous take on the people who are being critical of leadership right now, because it's not about dragging people down. It's about merely observing what has happened. I'm looking at, you know,

Democratic majorities that presidents have experienced in the past and failed to act on it because it was easier to do like this electoral gamesmanship shit and get people to vote and use that as like a way to chum the waters. And so I'm sorry that in these instances, my empathy doesn't go towards trying to understand people who will be wealthier than I ever could be and trying to figure out why they want to think it's okay to play with people's lives and have some weird long game view. Like that's not where my heart goes out to people who are trying to live, who are waking up in a world where they have limited rights, you know, and that they could potentially die because of this fucking decision. And, you know, the voting solution is not instant, right? That means vote

in November. That means wait for people to be sworn in next January. That means legislate. Even if shit happened at lightning speed, that's like a year away. That's like in the most charitable view. Like that's a year away. And I think that's really fucked year away that's like in the most charitable view like that's a year away and i think that's really fucked up to think of people who are considering what their options are for having a child you know how that affects people who might even be seeking like ivf and other treatments like that because this has all kinds of like knock-on effects to the people that are in the military who are on bases in states that have these trigger laws and they don't know if they can speak to like a a commanding officer because they might run afoul like there's just so many people right now who are in a situation like yo what the fuck like what are my

options and i just hate when you know we hear these things of like you know you just gotta be patient just be patient and then we'll be able to, to get these things, but we're demanding better for ourselves. We're demanding that we, that there's a, that there's a minimum that is not being met at all. And that is, there is no patience for that. Go tell somebody who's fucking 18 and just graduated high school. It was like, Hey man, I'm trying to get a Lambo. You know, I need a better job job tell that motherfucker to have patience don't tell somebody who right now they're doing the equivalent of telling people who pulled up in an er with life-threatening injuries to be like hey you're gonna need some patience right now right

i don't know and i think that's what is so mind bending and frustrating about this is because we're talking about real shit that's going to have real effects on people's lives, disproportionately people of color and poor people. And the ball is being passed back like, yeah, man, just wait on that real quick. Right. Well, we need from you. Well, and as someone with a uterus, right, I cannot help but believe that Republicans don't truly care whether or not people have abortions, right? They know that we do, right? People without any money, BIPOC people, right? We care about having abortions. And so the Democrats prey on that. And Christian people without a lot of money care about people not having abortions. And Republicans know that and they prey on them to vote, right? Like, this is all about making their friends richer at the

end of the day, and I think that they're using the ploy of, you know, a moral quote-unquote issue as seen by the religious people and a human rights issue. I think they're just, they're playing chess with us, right? Like, here's this really important health issue, and we're going to dangle that so that everybody can fight while we're still getting richer, right? Democratic representatives, senators, all those things, they get paid every year, no matter what decisions are made, right? And we're just kind of, it just, it feels inaccessible right their their problems and what they care about are so different than the problem as they present it to us yeah how can you access that like i don't you know what i mean because i'm now so concerned about my rights that i can't have the time or capacity

or space to really think about right which one of your friends are you getting richer by doing this? Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's, like, things, I'm sure it's not the case, but it feels like the most things that got worse in a single, like, I don't know, one, two-week period. Like, yeah, Miles, you said demanding better and it is things are getting significantly worse and people are being told to be patient and i keep or entitled

right that's another word people entitled you're entitled to everyone's actually entitled to you know live a life free of these kinds of fucked up forces pushing their life in a certain direction that's the only thing that we feel people are entitled to and at the end that language is fucking violent and it's effective because you can constantly spin people's actual pursuit of progress which benefits everyone at the end of the day to make it just a very narrow issue. Right. So, I mean, we have some pre-roll that we'll be running on this episode, our trending episodes directing people to choice.crd.co donations for the number four, abortion.com

is another place that people can go. Those are important things just to realize, too, because in all of this of like, you know, dealing with the shock of, wow, we're going we just went back five decades like it was nothing. Yeah. And even further. And we have a and we have a this this judicial body that has now just become like this ideological runaway train. It's important to know just to interact with these resources, the very least, because I think that's one thing that a lot of people are going to have trouble figuring out

is to A, know the situation that they're in and B, also knowing what their options are too. So yeah, the choice.crd.co has just no matter what state you're in can very easily answer basic questions. And then if you have the ability to donate money to these funds, then donationsforabortion.com is also a great place. But I think the biggest thing right now is most people need to be aware fully because I think if you're listening to this show,

you're probably more engaged than most people are because this show isn't fucking for everybody, you know what I mean? And it's important that people are also communicating into their immediate circles just how much of a fucking like what path we're on right now you know electoralism aside like this is this is absolutely serious and we're dealing with a group of people who six people right now they feel like they can, you know, basically create whatever reality they want at the moment. Well, and I think if people want to get involved in their community, it's so important to, like, look to the people that have been doing this work for years,

for decades, right? Don't try to reinvent the wheel. Also, more specifically, right, if you're a man, if you're a white cishet man, and you want to enter this fight and enter this space, by all means, please do. We need your voice. We need your representation. But you also need to focus on the people that are being most affected and help them uplift their own work, right? Not come in with this huge campaign about how you think that you can solve the problem. Because I think in some ways, these spaces are often super liberating and amazing and then sometimes they can also reinforce some of the misogyny that they're trying to take down at the same time right so be an activist please but be a responsible activist for sure by the way, Baja Gold is not good. Shit.

Classic segue. It's bad. It pains me to say that, but it's, you know, I'm a big Baja Blast fan, but. That's a shame. Yeah, it's not good. It's one of the worst Mountain Dew flavors I've had. It's still better than anything, like 90% of the things I've ever put in my mouth, but it's not. It doesn't live up to the Baja Blast title. I don't know why they would have given it that title.

So that's what you're going through right now. Exactly. See? We all have a demon. Yeah, we all have things. I'm glad you're not at some kind of rally being like, yo, yo, we got to talk about Baja Blast real quick. You know there's about to be some people with some weird agendas.

Yeah, I'd like to get something in too. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about this latest Supreme Court decision. It regards a football coach, a high school football coach for a public school who basically came out and was like, he started praying by himself, but everybody was like, ooh, he seems to like it when we pray with him after the games. So then it became this big thing where he would basically deliver a sermon at the end of football games, and his players would obviously feel pressured to be there and be the bestian prayer at this public school so

people noted it to the school board the school board was like hey could you not do that and he turned it into you know every white christian male's favorite, which is like a opportunity to be like, they hate us because we're Christian. And like the next game, he kneeled to pray and did his sermon and all the news cameras were there. And the school board was Elvis. Like if, yeah, if he's going to wiggle his hips and shit. Yeah, exactly. And the school board was like, I mean, could you just like pray and I don't know, like by yourself somewhere. And he was like, you're like the Nazis basically. And so they put him on leave. And that that was the Supreme Court decision was like he was being persecuted for his Christianity. being persecuted for his Christianity. And I don't know, like reading the opinion, I just kept thinking of Brett Kavanaugh and how mad he was that he had to even like face questioning, like the whole narrative around him being like, what is this? I'm being attacked. I like to drink beer, you know, like just like the most inarticulate, dumb, but like full of righteous indignation display by a human that maybe I've ever seen. is one of the least oppressed groups of humans maybe in the history of Earth becoming less repressed with each Supreme Court decision.

The one thing that they can't be in America is oppressed by the system because they are the system. And the whole text and belief system is based on worshiping a person who was persecuted and i just feel like it doesn't it's never sat comfortably with them like that they don't get to be turned into like the martyrs for being christian and i i used to go to a public school that had like fellowship of christian athlete things where you

had to like sit through the wildest most like over the top you're burning in hell if your soul is not saved by the lord type shit like and it was just everybody did it because you wanted to like be on the basketball team essentially and yeah man it's it's there's also the rudy story which is it's like i mean all this shit right like this is another like what happened to the fucking the establishment clause you know like most people point out like you have a public cert because this is a public school So someone who's a public servant mixing religion and that's becoming like what a governmental entanglement or whatever, like the laws, like, you know, a theocracy is like actually the official, you know, now the official system of this country now because church and state, we're not trying to separate them. It's church and state together. single moment where we're like the other thing that I guess that's frustrating as I look at all these things is that we're

also being like batted around being told to respect these like ancient sheets of fucking paper right whether it's the Bible or the Constitution and those have somehow become these infallible fucking things where to use

to lead your argument with that the Constitution says the Bible says, that has become just such a potent argument against fucking logic. That's another part that completely blows my mind is that our deference to these things too is all like just continues this sort of like fucking trip up

that we're experiencing judicially. Well, I think what's funny about the coach situation is that let's say you remove religion and morality from it. It's concerning to me that a coach in charge of young, impressionable people can't understand the concept of coercion and persuasion, right? How, if you don't understand how a child would feel pressure to participate in a prayer that they don't want to participate in because you're an authority figure and you don't understand power dynamics, just the concept of it, you really should not be working with children. Like even if you don't get that concept right that how coercion manifests in this like coach mentor relationship oh i'm sorry babe like you just don't you don't understand enough about human interaction to work with children and then to that they would say you know

they don't for them it's really not about coercion right because for them a kid's going to see a drag queen read a book at a library's coercion and grooming oh yeah they're so quick to use these concepts but immediately it doesn't apply the other way and i think that's why a lot of there was that twitter thread from somebody saying like this isn't like to think of it as hypocrisy is completely wrong like there isn't they're, you can't get a conservative, like, well, what about this though?

But that's coercion. But then this isn't, that's not the game. The game is it's a theocracy straight up. We don't want, we don't, we want to completely erase and disappear for like marginalized people that don't fit with our,

you know, Christian worldview. That's all it is. But we'll use the words of the law to so because we can't just be out here saying, we don't think gay people should be around. We don't like this. We don't like that. We just there are too many brown people here. So we have to we so we can use our ancient sheets of paper to sort of justify what these sort of aims are and use like these cases that are really just at the end of the day, arguing for the fact that Christianity is the number one religion.

Fuck, fuck anything else you're saying, because I'm sure I'm curious if someone in protest would be like, OK, let me test that out. I'm Muslim and I work for the city. What can I what what where's the line for me now? Because if this is saying like are we then gonna begin to dial it in more and have to be specific that's like well it's actually you know christianity but the other religions you know we're not really so we're talking to you but yeah exactly and i think that's the thing that like we're we're also looking at a lot of these decisions like yo this doesn't even make sense it well, yeah, it doesn't make sense to us because we wouldn't try and have these laws over people that gave them no options. Like in the same way that you could make an argument that says,

you know what? I think Christianity is fucked up. Right. And I think it's been used to justify countless horrors since time immemorial. What I don't want, I don't think Bible should exist because I don't want that near my child. I don't want my child to even have the opportunity to engage with that because that's how they look at these other things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If your child's teacher is gay, he's going to be gay. Like the second your child walks into a room, if the teacher is gay, your five-year-old is going to be sucking dick next week.

the teacher is gay your five-year-old's going to be sucking dick next week right and like the it's that well yeah you're like you're saying it doesn't make sense right because their whole their truth is that those papers whether they be in a book or on the constitution are law so even their methods of getting to those laws being upheld it almost doesn't matter like if they kind of get there in a fucked up way like at the end of the day it's it was the right thing to do because it was moving towards making their papers truth right so even if we did it in a shitty way even if we did it unethically it's ethical at the end of the day these ancient sheets of paper got my back though that's why and i I don't want to fuck everything else you're saying. And I think

we do ourselves a disservice to continue to look at this group. Like, you know, we got two parties, right? We got the ones that are saying, like, fuck what you want. This is a theocracy. Also, we love capitalism. Then we have the other group that's like, we love capitalism. We also kind of

know what's fair, but at the end of the day, it's money over everything the other group that's like, we love capitalism. We also kind of know what's fair. But at the end of the day, it's money over everything. So it's like, which at the moment, it looks like the people who want to bring in the theocracy pose the largest threat to people's human rights, putting aside the financial economic oppression that we just generally experience under capitalism. But like now to like even call this thing a like a political party i think is completely is just so far off base and many people have been saying that for a long time when you look at the kinds of things that these people read and the events they speak

at where you have people who are taking office like secretary of state who are also believing in the end times right you know these aren't these aren't people who are actually looking at the world and like uh okay this is the history of this country this is this is these are the forces at work they're like no no no this shit needs to happen so it matches up with the ancient sheets of paper sky daddy gotta come back and so i just gotta make it happen whatever sky daddy says and you know you you mentioned earlier this idea that it feels like the a lot of the energy comes from the on the left, but also, you know, the Democratic Party like that does seem to be the guiding principle right now and yeah but that that is a dark path to travel because that ultimately is about dehumanizing and like that somebody made the point that like man when you when you read the like grooming and child molesting shit from like the q anons of the world talking about

the democratic party you really start to realize that they want to kill a lot of people and like that that it that instinct to be like whatever causes the most pain like that that leads to very like dark historically horrifying places and it does seem like the that is the that is the magnetic north of this of this movement right now i mean that's that's really it is just it does seem to be headed in a very dark direction that i'm not i'm not sure like there are two parts of the resistance that are like one part is like well we've lost and like do it doing anything practical like fuck all that and like i understand the frustration and then the center ish movement is like i don't know it just i i'm like I'm worried that the leftist movement isn't taking the urge to actually kill people seriously enough is a thought that keeps coming up for me as I kind of worry about reality yeah i mean you've heard people at like city council meetings like

bring up execution and shit like yeah the fuck and then you have some people like yeah yeah yeah i'm on that that is i'll i'll take that person at their word that that is the a world that they're trying to exist in yeah now whether or not it gets to the plurality of people, I think that's really where we're at right now, trying to figure out which way this thing's going to go still. And I think it is tough because on one hand, the Democrats have completely botched their audition for having power. And then on the other side of it, you've got literally these Christian murder terminators

who are like fuck what you heard like there are no laws that can keep you safe if you're not on this team and and now you're finding like again you're seeing it express itself in the in the voting polls too and this is like a thing that a lot of people are treating as like the one bright spot like on like msnbc where it's like you know this is bad but polling has swung eight points in the democrats direction now they were three underwater and now they're up because of this and yes i get it because suddenly a bunch of people became acutely aware of this existential threat but then i'm like for them to even talk about it as being like, well, here's a good thing for the game of elections rather than like, actually, you know, I'm I'm already I'm already going to take everything that this that party is going to say with a grain of salt.

But if they're at the very least able to articulate something that was like coherently a plan, they may do better than to just keep being like, you got to vote in November. better than to just keep being like you gotta vote in november and and i feel and it sucks because it's so cynical because we've seen them dangle so many other carrots in front of voters just to be like you know that like you feel even like it feels even grosser in this situation too when you're like man they just literally just fucking took these rights away like it was nothing i feel like their their show of power to date has been hashtag softened prayers. They talk about these issues and they put a lot of emotive language and make it all emotionally driven. And then it just is the biggest case of blue balls on the planet. Right.

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And there was a leaked Amazon memo that revealed some never-before-seen internal research from Amazon. And it basically says, hey, we're running out of people to exploit. And this is a real problem for Amazon. Yeah, real problem for the company that employs countless people across the country.

So this memo that Recode got their hands on, one of the sentences says this, quote quote if we continue business as usual interesting amazon will deplete the available labor supply in the u.s network by 2024 that is such a fucking wild sentence like we're gonna run out of motherfuckers to exploit wow in 2024 if at at our current pace, now, like, allow us to warn you about these, like, what the things that can be done. This, just from Rico, this says, quote, The report warned that Amazon's labor crisis was especially imminent in a few locales, with internal models showing that the company is expected to exhaust its entire available labor pool in the Phoenix,enix arizona metro area by the end of 2021 and in the inland empire region of california roughly 60 miles east of la by the end of 2022 and this is at at current levels right it certainly makes you question right why are there why are they so invested in all of

us having babies yeah yeah 100 we talked about this yesterday about like well who does it benefit to have like forced birth uh you have an inexhaustible supply of labor to exploit and you know a lot of people have uh talked about like the work of like that guy ben wattenberg in the book the birth dearth where you know there was a like in within it talking about it's like you know this neoconservative guy ben wat Wattenberg saying, hey, the biggest issue is the low amounts of white babies being born in this country, too. Or else there will be a demographic inversion, if this isn't addressed. And that's another element of like, this is something that was totally like, this person was in pretty upper echelons of our government and you know with a near presidents and shit so his ideas are getting out there and that is something that you have to keep in the back of your mind too that there are people who look at that who you know because there are many american people who have a fear of the of the brown america that they look at this too and look at the statistics that you know the amount

of white people having abortions is like more significant than you know people of color so there it's easier for them to say well if we can knock that off then maybe we can help the numbers but immigration too so it's a little bit hard plus you got the race mixing there that's like there's so many of these like other ways like that these fucking ghouls look at how how life works in such a different way which is like yo we need to cut down on immigrants we need more white babies also we're running out of people to exploit too so it'll be good to have just more people in general there it is yeah exactly well and the way they look at the world right is just completely

inaccessible to us. Right. I cannot empathize with that. I cannot put myself in your shoes. I don't know what that would be like. I can't connect to it. But also, it should put into perspective just how hard they're going to fight any sort of labor organizing movement within Amazon. Oh, they already are. organizing movement within Amazon. Oh, they already are.

I mean, yeah. There's stories every day about Starbucks and Amazon doing the fucking absolute most to try and stop it. It's kind of a miracle

it's gotten as far as it has the labor movement. Well, I think the difference is, right, the thing that these people who are at the levers of our economy don't realize is that

people are experiencing lack at such an intense level. They can't just like brush it off like maybe they could 15 years ago and be like, I don't know, do we need to unionize? They're saying it could be bad if we do. Now people like I don't give a fuck. Right. Like this is the only option to try and guarantee myself the kind of outcomes i need to live a life and that kind of energy you can't really bottle that shit up unless you the only way you can stifle that is to give motherfuckers more money that's really the only thing you can

do like if if you're trying to you know stem the flow of or rising unionizations that's really the only thing to do because at the end of the day, that's what they're fighting for. So until you give them that, that fight's going to continue. But I just do want to say, like, with this, like, with Amazon, they're kind of in this spot where, like, they don't know what to do about this issue, because each potential, quote unquote, fix has drawbacks from their perspective, right? Like, they don't want to go full robot and go fully on automation because then a lot of people are going to be like, you see what these companies are like, they're just there to take the human labor, then pivot to this other thing and leave people completely jobless so they can

make profits. And like, that's going to be a little bit of a PR nightmare. And then you start paying people more. They're like, well, you know, I don't know if we could start paying people more. That's like less in bonuses. That's less than other like frivolous projects the company might want to just throw money away on like rocket ships and shit and like in places like phoenix they were so desperate to keep people like at the warehouse despite the shitty conditions the managers there were basically told by hr they're like hey man any of your write-ups that you normally write up for like being inefficient or like all that nasty draconian shit that goes on here we're actually just not we're gonna exempt them because we can't afford to fire people so just so you know and i think the thing

i'm trying to figure out is if this was written as like a an alarm bell from people who work in there just to be like just so you know like you can't keep doing this shit or is it truly like you know that real terminator mindset where they're like right running out of bag holders by 2024 like this is must change this is an amazon internal document version of like humanitarianism right that's but it's like so foreign and like devoid and divorced from any sort of care for a human. They know their audience. And they're like, well, the way to put this is actually by describing the humans who work for us as a depleting resource that will be fully depleted by 2024. Which is wild and also probably won't work but you know jesus

christ the the the robots thing is gonna that's the direction they're gonna take it ultimately right yeah no doubt no a robot doesn't have you don't have to consider a robot's fucking humanity right you know and like that that's that's all it is it's like i just need a thing that will constantly churn out like activity from my revenue stream yeah and these humans got this idea like they got rights and shit or like some shit about a living ways man fuck that get these robots in here that is the they'd much rather do that you know and you already see it like in certain places like there's already like semi-automated mcdonald's and shit i can't man that shit is stupid first of all like it's so confusing to use some fucking gigantic screen to order the

simplest shit i don't understand i mean i do understand it's cheaper to just have a thing plugged in than to pay someone fucking health care costs and shit but yeah there's just so much like i don't know like you just we're constantly just seeing the inefficiency of like their their like their constant pursuit of like maximum profit or to be like the largest employer in the world or whatever without realizing like how it you know you're just burning through people as you do it. Right. Oh, no, they realize. I mean, right. But now they're at a point where they're like, fuck, though, our our our workplace is so fucked up. We don't burn through the whole fucking city. Right.

And now and that's what's funny, which is now it's almost like, holy shit, our shitty business practices like it does. Actually, it's coming back around because now we've completely purged anybody who would want to even fucking work for us because they fucked off to another place now what do we do and that's what's kind of like the weird you know sort of horrifying dimension of that memo well you know it's been truly a pleasure having you on lovely It's been lovely. Thank you for having me back. Yeah, yeah. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Yes. If you want to check out the company that

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you've been enjoying? Yes. There is a TikToker. It's called At Get Him Out. And she's basically relaying her horrifying surrogacy story over like 75 parts on TikTok. She like got pregnant for her friend who wanted a baby

and then she made her life hell. It's At Get Him Out. It's like my TikTok reality fix at the moment wow amazing miles where can people find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying uh man you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray uh check out the other podcast mad boosties if you like basketball 420 day fiance just trying to get lost in the trash with me. And also Lords of Soccer, which is a new show that I'm working on about the corruption at FIFA. Let's tweet. I like I just just just please look into like mutual aid groups and just do just do that.

I don't I couldn't even really look at the last couple of days, to be honest. And I would just much rather, you know, just figure out a way that you can contribute. Like Hina was saying, there are people who have been, you know, working on creating the infrastructure to support their communities. Help add your human power to those operations

because that will feel good and that will actually create livable outcomes for you yeah yeah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song

do we think people might enjoy? Let's go out on a track from an LA native Kaja Bonet. Got a track called For You and I just love it. It feels nice

dreamy it puts me in a good mood and I think y'all will like it as well like you know very Kate Bushy like on the vocals

if you like that you know upper register singing too so there's a little bit of something that might resonate in your ear

if you've been watching Stranger Things like I think everybody on the internet has been so this is Kajibone with 4U. All right. Well, the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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