The Daily Zeitgeist - It Burns, DJ Spiderman 8.23.19

Episode Date: August 23, 2019

In episode 459, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Chinedu Unaka to discuss the new Apple card, the fires burning in the Amazon, Sarah Sanders joining Fox News, Trump denying detainees vaccines, Joe Walsh possibly knocking Trump out of the race, the big business of scavenging, the Spider-man Sony / Marvel debacle, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. How to clean your Apple Card2. Amazon fires: Bolsonaro says Brazil cannot fight them3. Blame humans for starting the Amazon fires, environmentalists say4. People are deliberately starting fires in the #AmazonRainforest to illegally deforest indigenous land for cattle ranching5. Jair Bolsonaro claims NGOs behind Amazon forest fire surge – but provides no evidence6. Fires in the Amazon, the planet at risk7. Sarah Sanders becomes the latest ex-Trump official to join Fox News8. Trump’s new press secretary was arrested for DUI while working on the 2016 campaign during her rocky rise to the White House9. Opinion: Denying flu vaccinations to border detainees isn’t just cruel, it’s dangerous10. If Joe Walsh Primaries Trump, Will We Stop Calling Him A Deadbeat Dad?11. THE GOP SUICIDE SQUAD GEARS UP TO PRIMARY TRUMP12. How China used Facebook and Twitter to spread disinformation about the Hong Kong protests13. The Big Business of Scavenging in Postindustrial America14. Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’15. The Secret History of Spider-ManMovies 16. Sony once turned down a chance to buy all of Marvel’s movie rights for only $25 million17. WATCH: Black Taffy - Lantern Flies In Mist Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 96, Episode 5 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially, off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Friday, August 23rd, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Listening to a pod. I think it was the Daily Zeitgeist.

Listening to a pod. I think it was the Daily Zeitgeist. People's hot takes. People laughing. Miles selling Tuscany. All right, that's it. That is courtesy of Jake Odinson Beardsley.

That's a hell of a name, Jake. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. This is the drum fill. Boom, boom, boom. Don't you want to be in Tuscany? I am Miles of Grey and I have ED. But on the daily Zeitgeist Show, I will grow and take a rip off of this bull. Let's do the show.

Wow. Wow. Another En do the show. Wow. Another En Vogue hit. Another hit. Again, to the same tune. Don't let it go by En Vogue. I think you just need to do that from now on. That's one of my favorites. That is from Mitch Wheeler

at The Mitch Wheeler for that En Vogue AKA. And let's see, for next week, let's do AKA's inspired by Mary J. Blige no

I'm sorry no Missy Elliott cause Missy Elliott is out so give me Missy Elliott inspired AKA's

for next week thank you challenge challenge set well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious

comedian Chinadu Naka yeah how you guys doing good I'm great challenge set well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian chinadu naka yeah how you guys doing good i'm great i also go singing man that was hey well you know thank you when you have thanks that too yeah oh you thought his was good too oh you could beat that he was looking at you actually wait what was yours too saturday is in the park oh by chicago wow i always know i've done a good job when you asked me uh which one it was not a huge Wait, what was yours too? Saturday is in the Park. Oh, by Chicago. Chicago, wow. I always know I've done a good job when you ask me which one it was too. I'm not a huge Chicago fan, so there's a reason why that wasn't on my radar. Yeah.

I mean, that song is like one of those three songs that I like to sing at karaoke. Yeah, yeah. You've got to play to your strengths. Yeah, some songs are meant to be sung at karaoke. Yeah, exactly, and not on a podcast. That's right. No, but that was- That's where I blur the lines. You carried the note. I can tell you karaoke. Yeah, exactly. And not on a podcast. That's right. No, but that was... That's where I blur the lines.

You carried the note, you know? I can tell you practiced. Yeah, I do a lot. A lot. With tears in my eyes, typically, in the bathroom. All right, man. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today.

We're talking about the Apple credit card. The Apple card. The most, I don't know, fragile credit card? Fucking precious thing you can buy, yeah. We're going to talk about the Amazon being on fire. Sarah Suckabee Handers joining Fox News and her replacement. The new cruelty not going anywhere, guys. Joe Walsh might be joining the presidential race.

There are rumors. And we're going to talk about Hong Kong. We're going to talk about garbage scavenging being a new business and the crazy history of the rights to Spider-Man since that's in the news. But first, Chin and Du, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Something recent. I was watching a documentary on serial killers, like the top 15. The top 15 serial killers.

Not that I plan on killing anybody. Right. You're not getting competitive. No, no, no. Learn from their mistakes. Exactly. Well, no, not that. No, no, no.

I just want to stay above the curve. I want to catch. I'm always looking at ways people could pass because I want to just not catch, be caught slipping. There you go. I want to catch i'm always looking of like ways people like to pass because i want to just not catch be caught slipping there you go you know i want to stay alive i'm determined to die of like natural causes okay perfect yeah oh because you want to be able to see a serial killer coming no i just want to yeah exactly that too because they look very normal yeah yeah yeah yeah or it looked like youth pastors that too but it all depends a lot Wait, which, is there, do you watch a lot of true crime? I do watch a lot of true crime.

What's your draw to true crime? Everyone has like kind of a different draw to true crime. Well, my girlfriend watches it a lot. And so by default, I just got into it that way. Right. But it's just interesting like how people just kind of turn that weird, you know? Yeah, get to that point where yeah just for some it's like a you know something happened when they're a kid but for others it's just it's just something

this person got into right right right and then kind of makes you think like well how many people like the cops don't really know you know who did what like there's some people that die we don't hear about i feel like there's not like a number they give out end of the year all right guys this is how many unsolved murders right right yeah which is creepy to think about man and like think of like probably the greatest serial killers you never heard of them right yeah because they don't yeah yeah usually only serial killers get caught because they can't keep a secret those are the whack ones and the real ones like yeah all right right one is like i gotta tell somebody i'm really good at this right that's what brings him down to at a bar.

I killed like 48 people and nobody knew. Say what? That's true. Because the ones they catch, they always talk about being a narcissist and a megalomaniac being a symptom of a serial killer, but that just might be a symptom of

being a serial killer that gets caught. It's like Dennis Rader, the BTK killer. He just kept giving the police clues until they were like, yo, you left your email address on this one, man. It's just a basic slip. It's only like 35 years later when it just gave up.

Exactly. Or you're feeling yourself too much and you just get lazy. Yeah. I've been listening to a lot of true crime. I've been listening to My Favorite Murder and Last Podcast on the left. It's kind of crazy how My Favorite Murder always has to defend themselves about being able to talk about true crime in a comedic way. Yeah.

Because people... Because it is real people's lives. And when you get flippant, I guess for like victims, families are like, I don't. Right. It's hard to hear. I think that I think that criticism is inherently sexist, first of all, because last podcast on the left never have to, you know, defend themselves. They say some real dark shit on that show. But second of all, because I think people like it's always men who are criticizing them.

Because I think people, like it's always men who are criticizing them. And I think true crime is interesting to women because the world is so dangerous to women. Especially for women. Yeah, most of the victims in these stories are women. So, yeah, you have to pay attention to it because that's your reality. Men are like, this isn't cool. This isn't cool. Plus, I would never get fucking murdered oh no you can for sure yeah yeah it takes nothing yeah just a little you know i don't know

what you put in my coffee you know yeah that's true that's all it takes uh what is something you think is overrated something that's overrated um i would say uh maybe instagram man i'm such a twitter person i just love you on twitter it's hilarious i think if uh i know a lot of people Something that's overrated. I would say maybe Instagram, man. I'm such a Twitter person. I just love being on Twitter. It's hilarious. I think if – I know a lot of people who have Instagram that don't have Twitter. And I just think it's so much more fun. Yeah, I was definitely more Instagram heavy than Twitter before starting to podcast.

And then now I use Twitter. I definitely enjoy looking at Twitter more sometimes if I tailor my feed to not just be a toxic dump site. Right. That's true. But then I also, at times, I don't have the drive to be as witty as I feel like I could be on Twitter. But I feel like that's why comedians are so great for Twitter because that's what y'all do. Well, for me, it's like the funniest people on Twitter are just random people, man. It's like the funniest tweet, the best part is just the comments i'll just go through

pages of replies to a crazy video right right right here it's like 12 year olds just have me crying right right right buddy is helping oh yeah i mean yeah it's all about you know the the visual part people are getting lazier on instagram. I remember, like, in the beginning, people kind of took their Instagram seriously. Like, people, like, curate their shit. Yeah. And then now, I think as I get older, it's just slowly turning into Facebook now where it's like, this is what's happening in my life. And I'm like, yo, what happened when you were all, like, fucked up on the gram? Yeah.

It's my six-year-old's first day of school. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. It's becoming very professional. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know. And Twitter's like, day of school. Yeah, yeah. That's true. Yeah, it's becoming very professional. Yeah, yeah. But, you know.

And Twitter's like, exactly. Twitter's like, you know, shoes off, you're on the couch. Exactly. Instagram Facebook is like, yo, my parents might see this. Yeah, right. Or they'll post. There was some study that came out recently that there was something to say that people who did selfies more on their Instagram feed were viewed as less likable than people who

posed in their Instagram photos and had someone else take their photos. Oh, interesting. Wait, selfie, they weren't posing for the selfie? No, like, they were candid selfies. Whoops. Oh, man, how'd I have it? Arm fully in his...

My arm is crazy. In bed. I cannot keep track of this stuff. I think I have alien limb syndrome. Right. Just took off and took a selfie of me. But, like, I think, yeah, I don't know how, you know, scientifically sound that study was, but it was seemed to indicate that I guess people's, the perception of a selfie

person is different than a posy. Got it. If you, you know. You ever offered to take a picture of somebody who's like doing a selfie somewhere like scenic and they're like, no, no, no, no. I'm doing a selfie. I used to, when I was still, when I was still single was still single, that's how I would hit on women. Like if they were taking a photo.

Can you take my picture? No, I would see like a group of people. I'm like, oh, let me take that. And I would take a selfie. That's good. And they'd be like, oh, you're crazy. Oh, yeah. Oh, my, yeah.

You're so fucking original. Oh, my, thank you. Right. I need a ride somewhere. I need a ride to the valley. By hit on, you mean ask for a ride? Yeah, yeah. It was mostly ride-based.

He put his address. He put his address in my phone. He thinks I'm on Uber or something. I'm like, you have no charging cable in here? God damn. He's crazy, but he comes off very faithful. What is something you think is underrated? What's underrated, man?

I would say bread. I mean, I want bread to come back. Yeah. It needs to come back. Cards begin a tough rep out here. I'm waiting for a scientist to say bread is good again. Yeah. I'm a big bread person.

I used to eat a lot of rice, plates of rice. You used to. What happened? I mean, to cut back. I still eat bread. You know, wheat bread, but I miss the white bread. Hawaiian rolls. I used to eat a pack of those. Before I eat bread, like, you know, wheat bread, but I missed the white bread, Hawaiian rolls. I used to eat a pack of those

before I knew better. You just eat a pack of King's White Rolls? You know, like, they come in a 12 pack. I used to take like four and make it look like

one big ball. I would just sit on the couch and be like, like, is it an apple or something? You can bunch it together, make it as big as you want. Make mega rolls.

I would just sit there. No butter, just dry. Yeah, I'll make it one, so I want to be judged, but it as big as you want. Make mega rolls. And I would just sit there. No butter, just dry. Yeah, I'll make it once a little. I want to be judged. But it's really forward there. Do you have a picture of that on Instagram? That's a great Twitter photo. Man, I got no photos from when I was little, too.

Yeah, fresh off the tree. One of these roll apples. Right. Roll apples, man. Croissants, I used to fuck those up, man. Can we curse later? Love a good croissant. Yeah, you can curse.

Rice, though? You had to cut down on rice? Yeah, down on my nigerian so man rice is huge joe off rice yeah joe off rice man white rice you know and i had to get my dad and mom to switch to brown rice you know wow yeah that was tough man what was that like they didn't believe the numbers i was like we can't eat his mouth of white rice no more. Right, right. So, yeah. It worked, though.

Yeah, come on. Bring carbs back. Yeah, for real. I mean, I get it. It's weird, too, because in this city, man, everyone is so health-centric. People fucking judge you. Like, wow, you're going to eat that sandwich not deconstructed in a bowl? Right.

I'm not getting a fucking sub in a tub at Jersey Mike's. You fucking out your money. When you go to the South, it's different, man. The like what yeah they go crazy yeah if you don't have diabetes in the south they call you hollywood what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false i was think i think aliens for sure exist yeah i think uh to think they don't is like a way less probability you know oh yeah right there's so many uh too much space out there right it's too much space i can't wait till they come man if they not here already yeah well yeah you're going you got your tickets to Area 51?

It's going to be popping, huh? That's expensive. I haven't been to Coachella yet, so I think I got to go to Coachella first. You storm Area 51 with all the weebs? There's levels. You got to go to Coachella, then Paris, and then Area 51. The town that is closest

to Area 51 is going to declare a state of emergency or just declare a state. Like, literally, that was a headline yesterday in the LA Times. But the planned fucking run on Area 51 isn't until September, right? Yeah. So I think they're just prepping because... Yeah, because it all started with that Facebook group. Yeah.

But I think on that date was like September 20th or something. It started as a joke, but now it's like all social media indicators. And I think they've looked at travel plans and shit like that. And they're like, uh-oh. This is going to be a flood. Part of me is like, we should go. I will start a GoFundMe just to rent a van. That's all I need.

I just need a van money so I can just go out there. I don't know, Chinadu, if you're down, we'll go. Let's do it. And watch from very far because I have a feeling if people really do try and roll up on you, if you do want, something bad will happen. Well, the military was like, we're going to shoot you. That's what we do. These people were like, yeah, but have you seen Naruto?

Yeah, right. I'll fucking run through them shits. No, you won't. Right. This is sponsored by the Russians for Naruto? Yeah, right. I'll fucking run through them shits. No, you won't. This is sponsored by the Russians for sure. Yeah, right. Exactly. They're like, yeah, yeah, gassing everybody up. It's like if you do run fast enough, the bullets will go around you.

That's true. That would be smart. Yeah. Yeah. I'm down to go, man. I mean, security got to be pretty insane. But yeah, I wonder what the actual distance is like from the closest sort of civilian area in that desert road that you inevitably have to take. That's like, you know, I'm sure it's miles and miles before you get to that entrance and then party out there.

It's probably something crazy. Yeah. They can't shoot us all. People have another thing coming. Right. They can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. can't shoot us all people have another thing coming right right they can yeah yeah yeah because i mean like it's over like you go through the gates and then it's over the horizon to like get to even the actual facility yeah well if they don't have enough guards at the gates then inevitably

you know what i mean yeah they'll probably just have like two dumb guards sitting there they're like no well it's kind of like they're like no my cousin's one of the kids okay well the guards are aliens they're like yeah what's up yeah they just look at

you but oh fuck actually never mind never mind yeah we exist what's popping yeah yeah back up back up back up back up right right right that would be awesome if they just they were like

that you got us like come on in guys or just put the alien at the fucking gate and be like okay right go home now. Take your selfies. Now that you know. What are you going to do with this information?

Yeah. What would you do? I don't know, man. I'm assuming that Independence Day was correct, and that's where we got all our computer technology from. The computer chip was developed based on alien technology. Oh, wow. Which is why it's not a plot hole in the end when they upload a computer virus to the alien hardware because they're working off of the same system.

Who was Jeff Goldblum? Was that Judd Hirsch? Goldblum, Hirsch, Smith. When they're like, you're going to catch a cold. Yeah. Wait, a virus. Dusty-ass MacBook that they empower. Actually, excuse me, PowerBook.

I don't know if I'm using the correct Apple nomenclature from back then. Right. Then they just light up a cigar. If not aliens, then what would they be hiding in there? Right. I mean, it could be whatever the technology is that's been flying around the sky, like those white Tic Tacs. Yeah, you never know space tic-tac

parking lot whatever's in there or maybe it's like a really chill resort we don't know about yeah very exclusive yeah that's on some like military fuck fest yeah you never know it's like yo if you actually do really well you get to hang out here in 51 yeah this is like on some like beyonce's been there right right right exactly richard branson secret concerts like oh you don't know yeah it's just obama and richard branson yeah playing chess in like a topless beach or something right they could try all the new games first right that's all it is we put your iPods. We just get video games first. That's all this is. It's a dream world, baby.

Swimming in a pool of free iPods. Yeah. Like Scrooge McDuck in the opening of DuckTales. Well, speaking of free iPods, the latest technological innovation to come from Apple since the iPod is the Apple card, which I don't know, man. So this is a credit card from Apple. That doesn't really have great perks. Doesn't have good perks.

Probably doesn't have a good rate. No, it's just a good, as I call it, a status-indicating rectangle for you to carry around in your pocket. Apple's never been known for their great deals. like they they fuck you over yeah yeah well this is again i mean the thing i think that was the novelty is a it's an apple product right and like because it doesn't have a number and it's always changing the number as you use it like it's hard to you know have your uh be i guess a victim of fraud when you're using it okay but the thing that just caught my eye about this which i want to talk about it is because someone found there's already an apple support

page that's up for the apple card and it's a fucking titanium fucking rectangle but there's apparently like a lot can go wrong with it so this is what it says there's two sections it says how to clean your titanium apple card and how to safely store and carry your titanium apple card in the, how to clean your apple card. It basically says like, you know, wipe it with a microfiber or something. Uh, isopropyl alcohol, do not use regular solvents or soaps or whatever. But this other part here says some fabrics like leather and denim might cause permanent discoloration that will not wash off. Then it goes down. Isn't titanium supposed to be really tough?

Yeah, but I guess it's whatever the coating on it. First of all, this is what I'm worried about. Hold on. Leather? Okay, does everybody have their child tri-fold wallet that they had from sixth grade? But, I mean, most people have leather carrying cases or something. Right. Or denim.

A lot of people wear jeans. Wear jeans. Okay. So what's supposed to happen? They say, store your titanium Apple card in a wallet, pocket, or bag made of soft materials. Place your card in a slot in your wallet or billfold without touching another credit card. If two credit cards are placed in the same slot, your card could become scratched. Don't place or store your titanium Apple card near magnets.

Okay, that makes sense because it could get demagnetized. Don't place your titanium Apple card in a pocket or bag that contains loose change keys or other potentially abrasive objects. So anything. Yeah. The most in your pocket. It's basically like feels like a preview to basically saying like, oh, and here's the new Apple card case that you can buy that you wear on your neck.

Right. Like a fucking meal card. It's just a setup. Yeah. Or it's just a setup. Yeah. Or it's just one of those things where I think they're so focused on the look of it, they actually never thought to think that this is something that will be fucking used

pretty regularly, and people aren't going to like, who treats their credit card that fucking preciously? When I have a magnetic hotel key in my wallet, it stresses me out because I try and keep it away from other credit cards so they don't demagnetize each other. This sounds like a nightmare. Yeah. I mean, I also feel bad because a lot of people who are into Apple shit, they want to keep it as pristine as possible. There are people out there who – I still see people who have the fucking plastic

coating on their phone sometimes and I'm always like, really? You're leaving the fucking plastic part on the screen? He's like, yeah, man. Yeah, it's like, but you know,

it's not scratched. Put it back on eBay. Yeah, right. But your screen is all cracked underneath. Don't worry about that. The top still looks smooth. It's not dirty though.

But yeah, you know, so if you have an Apple card, just know that you can't use it like a regular fucking credit card unless you don't give a fuck how it looks. And it's, I guess, stained by your leather wallet. But it won't. It's not. They're not saying it'll fuck up the functionality of it. It's all about the look.

No, but again. But yeah, because the whole point of this, I think, is just to flex, you know, on the cashier, a date, a colleague, when you're like, I got this. You put your Ninja star credit card. Sorry, car's been denied, sir.

Yeah. Run it again. We have many times. No, it is my jeans, man. I think the denim. Right.

Yeah. You always have an excuse. He's like, well, hold on, man. Did you, did you put my card in your denim?

Right. That won't affect the funds available in your account. Right. You'd be using. Yeah, exactly. Did you put it card in your denim? Right. That won't affect the funds available in your account. Kind of low shit you'd be using. Yeah, exactly. Did you put it on the leather restaurant credit card holder that literally every restaurant has? You're like, well, I need to speak to your manager because someone's going to replace this card. Right. Jesus Christ, man.

And have all vendors agreed they're going to carry Apple, like accept Apple? Well, they can use that card where it's accepted. What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? It's a credit card.

It's like, what do you mean? They'll accept a credit card. Well, no, I mean like credit cards, you know, they'll have like Amex, MasterCard, Visa. Like sometimes they don't accept Amex. Well, I think it's backed by Goldman Sachs. Right. It's a MasterCard technically. Oh, okay. Well, there think Amex is the- Because it's backed by Goldman Sachs. Right. It's a MasterCard, technically. Oh, okay.

Well, there it is. There it is. There we go. Cahoots. A MasterCard you cannot put outside of the caring. What was their old campaign? Priceless? That was MasterCard?

Was it? Tickets to the game, 20 bucks. Right. Popcorn. For everything else, there's Visa. Wasn't that Visa? Yeah. Oh.

I don't know, man. Whatever, man. See, these corporations got me fucked up. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.

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There's MasterCard. So, yeah. You've been shamed. Although, I think I never paid attention to which one it was because I just knew that Visa and MasterCard were accepted everywhere. Like, the Visa ads make it sound like you can only use Visa in certain places with us. Don't pull up with that discovery. Oh, yeah. They're like, sorry, bro.

They're like, what the fuck is this? I still use Diners Club. This't pull up with that discovery. Oh, yeah. They're like, sorry, bro. They're like, I'm sorry. What the fuck is this? I still use Diners Club. This is Texas. Diners Club. Do they still have Diners Club? I think so. Wow.

I think like probably in like five places. Yeah, yeah. Wasn't that like the first credit card? I don't know, Jack. You tell me. You were alive then. I ain't never heard of Diners Club. That's my official shit.

All right. let's talk about simmons i remember overhearing a couple argue over the a rush card um out of ralph's parking lot in north hollywood that was four years ago i just remember very distinctly being like, you took my rush card! And I was just like, no, I didn't. It was like an argument over a rush card, and I was like, this is awesome. That was actually a commercial shoot. And cut.

Beautiful, man. That was great, man. I love the stab. That was great. Their catchphrase, you took my rush card, you motherfucker. You motherfucker took my rush card. Well, the Amazon is on fire.

Oh, okay. Yep. Yes. I want to, yeah. Because the- You're sad and fucked up news. Yes. Although when you search Amazon on fire, you get-

The fire tablet? The fire tablet. Holy shit. Yeah. But- That's the first. Yeah. The third page is the actual news.

But yeah, because the Misen scene wasn't matching the plot of how apocalyptic our world was getting, we had to, you know, set the biggest rainforest in the world on fire. Yeah. rainforest in the world on fire yeah i mean it's the whole situation down there is very very uh wild because you know on one hand you have you know bolsonaro basically was like i don't give a fuck about earth essentially yeah fuck it deforest it do whatever the fuck you got to do because let's open this up to like mining and farming or whatever you make more money out of this thing um and while many people are like hold on the amazon is vastly important so a lot of the fires recently there were reports coming out that the farmers were you know just like racists in trump's america they were feeling emboldened to be like well i think the president's cool if we just slash this shit down and burn it down and that's what began

happening to clear fields uh for cattle ranches because that's a huge driver of the deforestation, is exporting beef. And then when this all took shape, Bolsonaro was like, it was these environmentalists. They're setting the fires. Yeah, the NGOs. Wow, without any evidence. Right.

Despite his own administration, basically, his own environmental agency, they're barely issuing any penalties. There have been ministers that work in that agency that have basically said, we side with the loggers, not the indigenous people who live in the fucking forest, whose lives are actually at stake. We're on team logger. So all of this is sort of creating this atmosphere where these fires are burning.

There's very little concern about it, at least in Brazil, from the government. Obviously, the people are very concerned because the Amazon is, you know, it a lot of the Earth's biological biodiversity is like housed in the Amazon and like oxygen production and carbon dioxide balance, all this stuff. The Amazon is like fucking a vital part of that so yeah this is really like a global issue um and that's where you know we've it's odd to see you know ourselves included i was like oh damn right this shit is burning down right but in the media you're barely seeing it really covered meaningfully yeah because this is actually a very interconnected issue that we all need to think about because, I mean, even our consumption habits, like when you think about even like what we are looking at in terms of the food we eat

and how that's contributing to it, this is all a factor. And yeah, I feel like our legislators too need to also be saying something as well because that's where they can, if there was some kind of leadership in this country, they could be like leaning on Bolsonaro or the government or working like not sending firefighters right he's just there's a very lax attitude right too expensive yeah it's like the earth is smoking now basically you can see from space smoking fully um what one kind of detail about this that jumped out at me so asked on thursday who was responsible for starting the fires bolsonaro responded the indians do you want me to blame the indians do you want me to

blame the martians everyone is a suspect the biggest suspects are ngos there's this like he's not taking it seriously that's the thing that robert evans has been talking about over on behind the bastards that there's this like irony, uh, aspect of fascism that we kind of write out of history. Cause it doesn't like totally make sense, but like Hitler was always like joking around in his speeches, but we like cut that out and make it seem like he was always very serious and

angry and shit. But like there was like the not taking shit seriously and just being a jerk off type thing that like made people less suspicious of hitler and i guess it sounds real you know yeah yeah he's a real guy yeah wait like right now in this country right like the same guy who's being flippant about anti-semitism and telling journalists like it's only in your head. Right. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Like, there was a line where he was talking about, he was like, we don't have any problem with Jewish people. And we, you know, are happy for them to become the rest of the world's problem. And it was, like, met with, like, gales of laughter. And, like, basically, it was like, we're kickingales of laughter and like basically was like we're kicking them out of the country um but I was Hitler that was Hitler that was some some Hitler mature second I was like oh I know some juice recently yeah yeah we've been saying oh well yeah I'm the king of the Jews King of Israel but yeah along with that there was another story talking about why he started kind of getting angry or calling like Jews America who typically will vote democratically or for Democrats disloyal is because in his mind, he thought moving the embassy to Jerusalem and saying that the Golan Heights belong to Israel and all these other things were going to basically solidify every Jewish vote on his side without realizing the people he interacts with

are a very different type of American Jew than the general voting electorate. Like the wealthy business people who are like only interested in reclaiming parts of Israel that are not theirs. Is there, you know, those are the people he talks to. He's like, well, I made them happy. I thought that was everybody. Right.

Treating everybody like this, like a monolith where it's like, you know, he's confused. That's like, well, I made them happy. I thought that was everybody. Treating everybody like a monolith where it's like he's confused. That's why he's being all salty now. But this is the same kind of logic that we're seeing applied in that White House. Same with when Jared Kushner gives Trump advice. It's like, oh, yeah, fire James Comey. The Democrats will love that. It's like, what? What are you basing this off of?

It's like two anecdotal pieces of evidence. I'm like, okay, that's what reality is. Right. Yeah, his golfing friends, whatever his golfing friends are. Yeah, like Sheldon Adelson, who's just like Jabba the Hutt. New York Times conservative columnist, Bari Weiss, my favorite writer, was pointing out that she suspects that this is what he hears at cocktail parties, is both American Jewish people saying, like, you're the best, but also being like, I can't believe these other Jewish people who don't support you.

And so he's just, like, echoing their complaints. He's being encouraged with the wrong kinds of takes that are not an accurate reflection of what the general population or how they view this kind of activity, behavior. Yeah. And then when you don't denounce the Klan, you're not exactly going to get Jewish people living in America. Right. On your side. Exactly. Yeah.

Well, they're fine people. Both sides. I mean, look at them. They keep their robes very white. I mean, come on. They're great at laundry. sides. I mean, look at them. They keep their robes very white. I mean, come on. They're great at laundry. That's the way you met that. Sarah Suckabee Handers joined Fox News.

Big shock, right? Yeah, big shock. Wow. Does she have a show? What's she doing? I think she's going to be on Fox and Friends. Okay. Like after Labor Day.

Okay. So look out for that person. One of the main people? Because they seem like a bunch of... She's a contributor. I don't know if she's going to anchor it, but they'll probably figure out a way to deploy her properly

to just completely lie about everything. Because those people seem like they're constantly on laughing gas or drunk. Yeah, did you see when they were like, they were talking about Greenland, and they're like, wait, Greenland is actually the cold one,

and Iceland is the nice one. nice try Vikings like I think Brian Kilmeade or something said that this morning or the other like yesterday but it's just like yeah and then add liar in chief uh in there but that's what Fox News is that's dangerous though because Sarah's a great liar man yeah and she's the kind of person who like in the morning morning when you have these bumbling people on Fox and Friends, a little bit different than someone who's going to really give you the hard spin on every single topic. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see if she can stop being so dour. Because that was kind of her main thing.

But that was because she was dealing with the worst job. The opposition right in front of her. Yeah. I think, yeah, it's a safe crowd. She's going to be amongst friends. So I think she'll be a little bit looser and laugh as she talks about how, you know, immigrant children are dying in government custody. She did look dead inside when she was up there, like, protecting Trump.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't think it's going to, yeah, we'll see if that sparkle comes back to her. Right. Meanwhile, has she been like, who's her replacement supposed to be? Because there hasn't been a press conference in months, right? No. Yeah.

It is. What's her face? Well, there hasn't been a press briefing since I think March, I think I want to say. Yeah. No one has spoken on Trump's behalf since she left right yeah stephanie grisham it was the new press secretary but we've not seen her give a briefing she just kind of like comes out and says shit and falls back because at this point there's no fucking reason to have briefings which is true because it's just gonna be he's gonna say some shit the press secretary will come out and be like no he didn't mean it like that and they're like but that's what he said and they're like yeah but that's not but that's not what he meant though right right when he said he hated

all brown people what he meant is that he hated how brown people look right okay i mean look okay yeah okay maybe he said that but like this is how you know i it's just too turbulent and that role is like the whole point of a press secretary is to be like, when there's all kinds of maybe mixed signals coming out of the White House, it's like you have a briefing, the press secretary will be like, let me synthesize this for you into what is the actual position. But you have this president, I mean, he didn't even know what fucking day it is anymore. So I guess what's the fucking point?

Which is odd because now we're like living in a world where we're sort of like yeah fuck it too i guess because right yeah nobody's like really mentioning that like the position just disappeared kind of yeah because it's becoming normal right it's still on linkedin you know right you want to apply yeah if you do uh go to monster.com every day i check it pay more and more every day check out racist monster.com uh for your for your open positions in the white house uh so let's talk about uh the administration's policies because they're getting just more aggressively uh? I mean, just a few. Yeah, this week we've seen Trump threatening to end birthright citizenship through an executive order,

which is absurd. Because all of this is basically to say, fine, if we can't just be completely, just build a wall around the country, we'll just find every legal avenue of citizenship and just shut that shit down. So it's like, unless your parents are fucking in this country and they're already Americans, you're not American, basically,

is what they're trying to do. If you're born here, that doesn't guarantee that you're a citizen. Well, essentially, if they tried it. But most people are like, I don't think you can do that. That's a thing you want to do because you're running out of steam for the economy, and now you just have to stoke the flames of your base you're going after this immigration issue um and then on top of that there was this thing about they're like oh well you know what if we kept families detained indefinitely you know rather than like going by the florist agreement and you know having a very

defined amount of time that people can be uh in detained and that spin from the white house is like well actually we're doing that so we can keep families together longer okay and it's like and we want to guarantee the best possible care but a lot of people like there are people already dying in your care so what what is this how is this humane especially when all the accepted knowledge around this is that this is so fucked up for children to go through to be in a prison-style environment. I don't care how many fucking Dora the Explorer posters you got up on the fucking chain link fence. It's a fucking prison. And like a lot of places, babies aren't allowed to crawl.

You know, like the parents have to hold them. There's just a lot of developmental factors, too, that are being threatened by the conditions in these places. No education you get in there either. Yeah, and no recreation. And then even them making the arguments like, well, I don't know if they need sanitary products to take care of themselves. Right. fucking lame just cowardly sort of spin moves they want to do to basically never actually give up the ghost and be like yeah we're trying to be as fucked up as possible to deter other people from coming here because if we make an example out of them that will decrease the amount of people trying

to enter this country which hasn't proved to be the case at all by the way like the worst they treat kids and families like people are still coming because they're fleeing violence. Yeah. It's like, oh, right. I'll chill here because I'm hearing about this. Like, well, guess what? The options are pretty fucked up. It's like roll the dice coming here and the journey up there or face the existential threats you have in your own country that have been exacerbated by this administration, too, by pulling aid to a lot of the countries where these people are coming from.

So it's all a very dark scenario. Wasn't there even a question around vaccination? Yeah, that they're considering not vaccinating against the flu for these people that are detained. How does that, like that causes a huge problem for them, for everyone. Because you're living in close quarters. And already we've heard about how unsanitary these facilities are, that it would be, first of all, again, their justification, because they're like, how the fuck could you not, like this is a real, that's like a public health hazard. Yeah.

Because we already see flu season is fucking fatal to people. And then if you want to confine people in a shitty, unsanitary environment, you're only exacerbating that. So what they said is that border detention is intended to be short term and that once children are transferred into the Department of Health and Human Services, then they can get their vaccinations. But a lot of these kids have been there for much longer. And now we're talking about indefinite detention. It's just like, it's not matching up. It's all like all the pieces are there for something really, really terrible.

And like, when you think about it too, it takes, I think, two weeks once you get a vaccination to develop the antibodies. And then, so there's an incubation period that you need to count on. And then also, even if you just consider the fact that it's cheaper to vaccinate than to rush people to the fucking hospital. Yeah, of course. Just like everything about it just seems like if you really care about the cost, then vaccinate.

Right. To prevent these risks. But this is all part of treating these people who are seeking asylum and just a fucking better way of life to just treat them as non like a subhuman right um and again i'm sure his base you know they love that shit but again this is a fucking you know this is what's happening right now in the name of the united states and you know for some people they're deeply affected and for many others they're just completely indifferent yeah so it's getting so bad that people are starting to ask the question of whether a different Republican might run in 2020, which still

seems kind of like a pipe dream to me because he's as well-funded as any person running for a second term in the history of the office. But things are looking pretty bad. I mean, his approval versus disapproval is pretty far up. Yeah, he's upside down. I think it's 12 points underwater. He's in the upside. We're in the upside down. And he is surfing the best streak of economic indicators in a long time in terms of like overall stock market shit. Yeah, it's weird.

But like because you're starting to see people who before Trump were pieces of shit who are now acting like, yeah, this guy's really bad. Like Joe Walsh, for example. He came in on that teabaggeragger wave in 2010 only did one term uh tammy duckworth uh ko'd his ass and so he was out after one term but you know he was out here saying like when there was those police shootings like in i think it was dallas a few years ago and they're like oh black lives matter like they want a war he's like oh we'll give you a war it's like whoa hold the fuck excuse me um and a lot of just a lot of his rhetoric has been absolutely disgusting but then recently he had like an op-ed

come out he said this is him trying to make amends he says in trump i see the worst and ugliest iteration of views i expressed for the better part of a decade to be sure i've had my share of controversy um on more than one occasion i questioned mr obama's truthfulness about his religion at times i expressed hate for my political opponents we now see where this can lead there's On more than one occasion, I questioned Mr. Obama's truthfulness about his religion. At times, I expressed hate for my political opponents. We now see where this can lead. There's no place in our politics for personal attacks like that, and I regret making them. Now, I'll never know if any fucking politician is actually capable of seeing the light,

or they just get better at their hustle. Right, yeah. Actually, this is a better lane for me like i can maybe catch a wave over here um but you have people so joe walsh is someone that they're rumored uh that would possibly run against trump bill weld jeff flake that little fucking coward uh mark sanford and john casick these are all people who people say they want the smoke right but i don't know but that's the thing where you know none of these people are going to win right for the same reason you're talking about his approval rating trump's approval rating among republicans is very high his fundraising machine is on fucking next level next level fundraising meme yeah seriously and then so but the but the best thing though and also you have states like

south carolina they're like actually we might even skip a Republican primary to not even, like, threaten Trump's, you know, ability to run again. Like, we'll just, we're fully behind him. But the thing is, whenever there's an incumbent who has to fight off a primary challenge, they're typically weakened in the general. Oh, for sure. So, fuck it. Yeah, bro.

Fight on. You know, I mean, like, I would love to see the party split and see what happens and cause as much chaos as possible yeah because i mean that that could only help someone else right occupy 1600 why haven't they went for like impeachment democrats why haven't they yeah because it's still this argument of like well is it politically sound like do enough people want it because again democrats are you know really good at being shook shook from doing the right thing when there's clearly enough shit happening right now. You're like, this can't happen. Only Republicans will hate that.

And those Republicans that will hate it, they're not voting for you anyway. Yeah. And I think that's where there's a lot of looking to, like, swing voters. And, like, I feel that they just want it to be like a whole you know groundswell of public support so there's not a risk but at the same time if you're leading then show us some fucking leadership because what is happening right now is unacceptable yeah yeah they lost the news cycle with uh muller you know because he wasn't charismatic enough uh they lost that news cycle and i think that scared them off yeah which is insane right

well you know he he sounded fucking old yeah which is sad because we're still so like we're so into people's appearances that like we couldn't just listen to what he said and take that for what it was is trump's lawyer still is don mcgann still going to testify is that still in the offing we'll see I mean I know they're they're trying to sue the shit or counter sue to keep him from uh actually testifying so uh but I mean they're I know the judiciary panel is trying to like put like uh file lawsuits to enforce these subpoenas got it so. So it's just a court fight. All right. We're going to take another quick break.

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recently. The organizers say it was actually more like 1.7 million, around 25% of the population. I noticed some more people putting a little bit of a damper on the organizers side of the issue just online a little bit. And apparently China had been seeding Twitter and Facebook and all sorts of social media with pro-China takes. Right. And just to paint these people as violent rioters who are just pushing back for no reason. I mean, look, they're still in the streets for the same reasons. They want this extradition bill, which would basically say that if China wants to try you in the mainland, that they can pull your ass out of Hong Kong and try you in the mainland. Hong Kong and try you in the mainland, which again, a lot of people are like, no, we see, we're very critical of shit out here because we have a little more freedom than they do in the mainland that they see that as a way to just, you know, silence people. And right now the bill has been suspended and they're like, no, no, no, we want this shit fucking withdrawn because what they see is that they think, well, if it's suspended, they'll stop demonstrating. People

will forget about it and they can sneakily bring it back and that's absolutely not what they want because hong kong has been semi-autonomous you know since uh the british handed it over and they still want amnesty for demonstrators who have been arrested because they're like this is horse shit and the label of being described as rioters they want that taken away because that carries a harsher prison sentence because they're not writing i mean this last demonstration with like if it if it really was 1.7 million people, was completely peaceful and incident free. They just pulled up in physical space and were like, this is who, like we're here. Just so you know, and we're not forgetting, we're not leaving.

They also want like an independent investigation on the police brutality and some of the tactics the cops are using, like planting weapons on people or using plainclothes people to infiltrate some of the demonstrator groups. And they want the chief executive, Carrie Lam, to step down also. Chief executive of? Of Hong Kong. Oh. So, like, it's interesting when you look at sort of how their government, like their legislative

bodies made up, this legislative council, you know, when you look at the elections, so they have elections, but the chief is actually choosed by another political committee and it's typically just someone beijing like from the capital is saying like okay that's who we feel well is fine to be the chief executive then on this legislative council they have 70 seats like a congress or whatever and 40 of those seats are voted on by the people directly. But the other 30 are given to different industries and businesses. So it's like the fucking banking industry has a seat. Fucking medical devices or any industry essentially. Do those all roll up to China?

Those all end up being typically pro-China seats. Because for business, you don't want to fucking bite the hand that feeds. So that's sort of how they upset the balance because in in a popular election the pro-democracy and anti-establishment parties always win the popular vote right so this is a way they kind of balance things and that's another thing they're upset about is because in this agreement when they were uh handed over by the british was that hong kong and china were like eventually our goal is to have all 70 seats voted on directly by the people and that's another thing they want because they're like we're not actually being represented in the way that we want to right um so it's really amazing to see that many people come together and i think god i don't know what it would take in the united

states to even see something like that i mean there's no way you would ever get a quarter of the fucking country out for anything. Yeah, too much entertainment. Yeah. And I think also, too, like, we're just, we have different, we're just, we have different views on how we, the people, feel we're supposed to be treated. You know what I mean? Like, it's very normal to be like, well, yeah, you're in the streets. You can get clubbed in right like that's just sort of like an accepted thing of like a risk of demonstrating where i think for them it's like whoa what the fuck like they shot somebody in the

eye with a beanbag gun and like all this stuff is unheard of and i guess that's where we're a little bit desensitized to that too so yeah our overton window is completely fucked up for what we feel is like outrageous behavior from the government treating people who are like peaceably demonstrating at the same time if los angeles was threatened to be under like legal jurisdiction of the trump administration and he could just pull you in to like some to some court system that he ruled over. And we're a city that's very critical of him. I feel like a lot of people would be out in the streets. Yeah.

But that's what it would take. It would take something completely unheard of. It couldn't just be like, oh, we're shooting unarmed black people to death. Right. Or like, oh, these other things. It's like our palette for this shit is a little bit different. Right. And I think, yeah, that could potentially, yeah,

if we're talking a full-on authoritarian takeover. Yeah, for sure. But I mean, that's basically what they're dealing with. Yeah, but yeah. You know, like they have pro-democratic leanings and all those people will be disappeared if China gets this way. Yeah, and there's already reports of people who have been pro-democratic activists who have returned to the mainland who they haven't seen or heard from since returning from Hong

Kong. So, you know, it's something to definitely, you know, keep watching. Yeah, I mean, they're fighting for their lives. Yeah. It's pretty... And there's just a whole generation of kids, you know, who have been born after 1997 who have only known, like, this very, you know, this semi-autonomous version of Hong Kong, and they don't want that to end.

Right. Well, to complete the descent into a Mad Max universe of desert and scavenged vehicles, the New York Times published a piece yesterday about how pulling copper, aluminum, and brass out of garbage is now a $32 billion industry. What? Yeah, it's wild.

But yeah, just like recycling, pulling metals, precious metals, out of different garbage is $32 billion. Not just stealing them from construction sites? Right. Well, yeah. But I mean, that's like where we're at you know it's well because there isn't there a shortage like copper has become more and more finite right yeah they talk about like the shortage of virgin like versions of these things around the world whereas you can just like pull it from that that's the one thing the u.s is really good

at producing is garbage right so you know oh so these industries are thriving in places we're shipping off our trash or just no it's in the it's in the u.s within the u.s i don't know have you seen have you noticed like more trucks with just like pallets of cubed garbage on on the highway no i've started seeing a little bit more of that, or at least I've noticed it. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm so numb to being in my car that there's not much that catches my eye

when I'm in a car or in traffic. I haven't seen cubes. What's your commute? Yeah, what freeway did you see it on? Is that the 2? I think it was the 101. The 101? Headed out of downtown?

Headed towards downtown. Headed toward downtown. Oh, yeah. I mean, I would imagine 101 goes pretty far. you see it on that the two i think it was the 101 the 101 headed out of downtown headed towards toward downtown oh yeah i mean i would imagine one goes pretty far so yeah that would be the freeway anyways yeah the the story follows this one dude who basically survives on they call it the detritus of civilization like most of his possessions he pulled out of the garbage but he like what one of the things he does is like cuts the copper uh wiring out of old pianos and shit and he's balling yeah i mean he's doing well he's like a small player in this huge industry so like what did they talk about kind of what the incomes are for people like what the levels they didn't no they didn't talk about like him i mean he seems more like he's kind of scrapping from moment to moment.

He's rich. But then there's just gigantic corporations that are in the game too then? Yeah. Wow. He used scrap to build a furnace and then forge hunting knives out of garbage. From his grill to his sewing machine to his 20-foot powerboat. Oh, hell yeah. He salvaged all those from the trash.

I like really interesting interests he has there. Yeah. He grills, so he likes to cook. Yeah. Sewing machine, so he's making maybe homespun clothing. Or he's an up-and-coming fashion designer. Yeah. And he fucks with boats.

I mean, he's just self-sufficient, you know? And he's 20-foot power boat. He's living off the land, and the land just happens to be producing garbage now. One of the parts they say i told paisley that his job and his very existence seemed post-apocalyptic that's exactly what it's like man but instead of me hunting for water i'm hunting for metal so hell yeah yeah bro i mean shout out to him man it sounds like he's having a good time i know yeah uh but smells that's where we're headed yeah i know probably like garbage water like yo this burger's delicious man but i don't know it's like man i gotta tell you thanks for taking me out on the water man but your boat

smells like piss i'm sorry because it is piss yeah oh yeah yeah yeah it was actually where you're standing it was about was about three feet of piss. It took me a month to wash that shit off. Salvage this out of a urinal. Damn, I just got... World's biggest urinal. 20 foot powerboat, huh? Yeah. Let's talk about Spider-Man rights, guys.

Spider-Man will probably be leaving the Marvel Cinematic Universe. A lot of fanboys were sad to see this happening. It's a dispute between Marvel and Sony, and I think everybody was just inclined to side with Marvel. What the fuck happened? Sadly, I like Marvel Comics, but admittedly, I'm not a huge MCU viewer, so I wasn't sure.

I was not really following this in terms of understanding. I know that Sony was, they all, they had the rights first to Spider-Man. They've always had the rights to Spider-Man and basically Marvel in order to get Spider-Man back into some of their films, uh, agreed to a 95 five split where Marvel would only get 5% of the revenue from

Spider-Man movies, but they would get Spider-Man for shit like Civil War and stuff like that, and those were Marvel movies. So it was kind of like questionable, why would Marvel agree to that? And it was so that they could then try and renegotiate at a certain point, and they were like, okay, now it's 50-50 on all.

So it went from 5% to 50%. Right. And Sony was like, whoa, well, like, okay, that's a crazy opening offer, but let's, like, we'll counter. And Marvel was like, half. We're only doing half. It's like Bernie Mac and Bad Santa. Yeah.

So half. 43%. Half. uh 43 percent but yeah i mean the rights to spider-man have always been just kind of fucked up the first person to make a spider-man movie was roger corman uh who's like a b-movie dude he owned it and then sold it to the canon group uh which is the studio that made movies like masters of the universe the happy hooker goes to washington they bought spider-man rights for 225 000 back in the 80s so those guys didn't really get spider-. And in one draft of a script, Spider-Man is literally an eight legged monster. Hear me out.

Yeah. Just hear me out. He's a spider, right? So, but a man with a mustache. It's just a spider with a mustache. And a 20 foot power boat.

Just hear me out. God damn it. So Canon didn't end up making a movie. They sold their rights to Carolco, which is the studio that made The Terminator and Rambo. They hired James Cameron to write a treatment. James Cameron wrote Rambo 2, by the way. But Cameron's treatment for Spider-Man included violence,

swearing, and a bondage sex scene on top of the Brooklyn Bridge, where Spider-Man restrains Mary Jane with his webbing. Peter Parker's a virgin and Mary Jane doesn't even know who she is having sex with. What the fuck? Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's out of context. That's out of context. Who wrote that summary?

They met on Tinder. She knew it was Spider-Man, obviously. Because he had the mask on. That was like a classic 80s movie trope. Guy with mask on has sex with woman who doesn't know who he is. That was like Revenge of the Nerds. Played that one for laughs. Yeah.

Can you imagine if that Spider-Man had been made? Right. Wow. With a bondage, webbing sex. Fucking on the Brooklyn Bridge. Trump is like, I love it. This scene. Yeah.

I wish I was in it. That changes the whole trajectory of, because I mean, like, the way they started was with basically the Tim Burton Batman and like that, a lot of those things hold, you know, like having it like be an artistically like sort of dour but like very beautifully shot do you think there would be a way to do a tasteful beautiful bondage sex scene where the woman doesn't know who she's having sex with on the brooklyn bridge probably not not yeah the whole doesn't know if tim burton maybe did it if she yeah she will have yeah the character would have to have uh some kind of knowledge yeah i mean she'll have to consent, but otherwise, unless the whole thing's like, come on, Spider-Man.

Who doesn't want to fuck Spider-Man on the broken bridge? Me? Yeah, me. It's fucking freezing up here. What the fuck? Spider-Man, these fucking webs are sticky. He's an awesome director and writes like a five-year-old. I was a really fucked up five-year-old, you guys.

Really into bondage. So anyway, late 90s, Sony approached them I was a really fucked up five-year-old, you guys. I was really into bondage. Yeah. So anyways, late 90s, Sony approached them wanting to buy the rights to make a Spider-Man movie. Marvel's counteroffer, Sony could have all their characters for just $25 million. Sony refused the offer because according to one Sony exec, and this is a quote, nobody gives a shit about any of the other Marvel characters. Oh, this dude. I hope his fucking, I hope his family.

I hope that's written on his fucking tombstone. Tattooed on his fucking face. So instead, Marvel agreed to sell them just Spider-Man for $10 million. And then they made some pretty classic movies. Do we know who that guy is, that executive? I'm sure. I'm sure they do, but I think it's been kept from us. He's like, I never said that shit.

He's like, that's a fucking lie. I knew. I was saying, you know, the Z guys and fucking Scavengers. So X-Men and Fantastic Four were already owned by other studios, but he was referring to Iron Man, Captain America, and Black Panther as being characters nobody gives a shit about.

It was a Black Panther that took them over. It's like, fucking Black Panther. Condom my ass. And then, so Sony made the movies with Tobey Maguire, directed by, what's his name? Sam Raimi. Sam Raimi, yeah, which were really good for two. And then the third one was Troubled.

And then they decided to reboot it. And when the Sony leaked emails were released, it became clear just how clueless some of the Sony execs were with regards to the Spider-Man character. I just have to read this one part from one of the emails. From executives discussing what to do with the Spider-Man. So this is an executive talking about what he wants to see incorporated in the new script. All right. It's a list.

First, EDM, parentheses, electronic dance music. Thank you. Is the defining music for millennials. Wondering if there's an EDM angle somewhere with Spidey? His movements are beautiful. Would be awesome with a killer DJ behind him. Next list item. Snapchat just launched a quote story

functionality which is sort of a quote day in the life of me told in a series of Snapchats that expire after 24 hours. It has a very VIP quality about it since invitation only. Getting invited into Spidey's Snapchat circle

would be huge and very buzzworthy and cool. Oh, man. Fucking EBM. That's bad. I can't imagine how much cool shit got kept from like being... Ever happened, yeah.

Because of fucking people in suits, man. Fucking trying to legitimize their job. So, guys, I've been doing some field research and he just Googled millennial and was like snapchat my daughter told me trust me yeah my stepdaughter who hates me right always dying her hair and going to these raves i think there's something here what a fucking d like what the fuck is gonna be by the way i still featuring spider-man right when was the sony hack it was

like three years ago four years way back well it wasn't around the? It was like three years ago, four years ago. Way back. Or wait, it wasn't around the time. 2014. It was five years ago. Five years ago. So that was five years ago. That dude who sounded like he was writing in the 1960s. And then he caught on EDM in 2014. He was already like eight years late.

Yeah. Jesus, man. But yeah, so Sony ended up, you know, they didn't make much money from the Marvel movies, and then Marvel wouldn't make much money from the Spider-Man movies beyond the 5% of the original share. So Marvel asking for half the profits of Sony's Spider-Man movies would have been an insane change to the original deal. would have been an insane change to the original deal. So it doesn't seem totally fair to just blame Sony, which seems to be the way that social media has treated it.

Well, because I think everyone thinks that Marvel is the established power or whatever, and they went against it. Meanwhile, like, you know, Perlmutter, who's like, you know, max out Trump donor. Right, yeah. But they're not going to boycott the series. We're not talking about that yeah meanwhile sony made the venom movie without marvel and uh that made over 800 million dollars despite being a piece of shit apparently i didn't see it but whoa that's all

venom is it good i enjoyed it i like everything tom Tom Hardy does, though. Yeah, yeah. I love Tom Hardy. And they also made Into the Spider-Verse without Marvel, which was fucking great. That was great. Won an Oscar. It was probably the best superhero movie of that year. I didn't realize there was a thing behind the scenes is they were animating Miles' character at a lower frame rate than Peter Parker, and they were slowly catching him up to the same frame rate. So his movements slowly became smoother. I was like, damn, see?

That's what I'm saying, man. It's like they were the first people who were like, oh, animated movies. Right. So we can do whatever the fuck we want. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's a fucking acid trip. And I love parallel universes too so yeah

me too incorporated that oh this movie's everything yes yeah yeah so that's the story of spider-man chin and do it it's been awesome having you man where can people find you follow you um my twitter and ig and my website is chin and do comedy so So that's Chin, E-D-U, Comedy. So I have Zad Malls around town performing in our different cities, man. So just check my website for tour dates. Nice. Yep, yep. Where are you going to be next?

I'll be at Flappers Tuesday, August 27th. Doing an hour there. Oh, nice. And then I'll tape my album in Santa Barbara September 6th and 7th. First album? Yeah, first album? yeah first album I'm super excited, congratulations, appreciate it is there a tweet you've been enjoying? oh man

my homegirl Paige she tweeted yesterday she says I'm always moments away spending $30, I don't know why that hit me so hard that is so true I'm like bro the cost of living is insane man, I feel like, bruh. That is so true. That's some real shit, man. I'm like, bro,

the cost of living is insane, man. I feel like I'm spending 30 bucks every three hours. Is that Paige Walden? Yeah,

Paige Walden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's been out before. Funny comic too. Yeah, she's really funny.

Miles, where can people find you and is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yeah, Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. A tweet I like.

There's a couple of things I like from reductress. Uh, this woman's love language is calling people dude. And also another one is like these women, uh, enjoying a cocktail says cocktail tastes delicious apart from faint trace of alcohol. Uh,

like so many cocktails are becoming just sugar. Yeah. It's really weird. What happened to like when people just needed that bite to get over their childhood fears and trauma? All right, this is a shot. Give me another one on the ice. I love the sugary drinks though, but when you got a beard, you're not allowed to drink them. Oh, come on, man.

You know, reclaim that. I love the umbrellas all over again, but you know. I love a good Tiki drink. These fucking rum drinks are fucking powerful. Yeah. Some of the fruity drinks are actually pretty strong, you know. I go in that closing time. Terrible hangovers with all the sugar, too.

Yeah, that's real. That's real. Sorry to be the Debbie the Downer. Debbie Downer. But the hangovers are bad. You win, buddy. Yeah, I hope you like a hangover. What an asshole.

Ben Wasserman tweeted, got a rib added so Marilyn Manson would stop sucking my dick. Frong tweeted, we should split bathrooms by pee versus poop instead of men versus women. I like that. That's real. And Joe Rumrill tweeted, don't even think about honeying me if you've shrunk the damn kids. You can find me

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We Ride Out on Miles West's I Can Beat It. This is an instrumental track from a Dallas-based composer, beatmaker, called Black Taffy, the son of Pentecostal music ministers, but now just making fire beats. And this track is, yeah, it's, I mean, you know how I like vibes. This one has a little mix of, like, Eastern instruments along with, you know, if you like instrumental beats, you're going to like this. It's called Lantern Flies in Mist.

Yeah, you've been playing a lot of dope instrumental shit the last couple days in the office. Yeah, so this is continuing that trend. Take you into the weekend. You know, enjoy yourselves. Heal yourselves. Take care of yourselves.

Is Britney Spears an anagram for Pentecostal or Presbyterians? Got it. Presbyterians, plural. Yeah. Presbyterians. All right, guys.

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