The Daily Zeitgeist - It Trends With Us 8/8: 'It Ends With Us', Coca Cola Olympics, Fox & Tim Walz, Islamophobia, Trump Virtual Town Hall

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

In this edition of It Trends With Us, Jack and Miles discuss the new film 'It Ends With Us', Coca Cola being used by Olympics swimmers to keep from getting sick, Fox struggling to drag Tim Walz, Islamophobia having a bit of a moments on the Right, Trump's virtial townhall and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.

They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts there's so much beauty in mexican culture like mariachis delicious cuisine and even lucha libre join us for the new podcast lucha libre behind the mask-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts.

Señora Sex Ed is not your mommy's sex talk. This show is la plica like you've never heard it before. We're breaking the stigma and silence around sex and sexuality in Latinx communities. This podcast is an intergenerational conversation between Latinas from Gen X to Gen Z. We're your hosts, Viosa and Mala. You might recognize us from our first show, Locatora Radio. Listen to Senora Sex Ed on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to this episode of it trends with us oh that's right it's a play on the big movie dropping this weekend it ends with

us starring blake lively jennyate adapted from the Colleen Hoover novel that was a book talk sensation I'm Jack that is Miles as you might have been able to pick up on from my read I'm not I'm not overly

familiar with it ends with us I was mainly reading that off of like a description I'm also not i mean i'm familiar because i feel in the last week i keep seeing stuff about like blake lively and like headlines about like cast feuds and i'm like i don't know i don't i don't care enough about them but i know it's happening something behind the scenes tench yeah what i'm hearing is what i'm picking up on um the the star and director justin baldoni uh who i'm not overly familiar with maybe maybe if i have looked more deeply i would recognize him from some stuff but um i just want to read this description and just want to get a get a

sense if anything pops out to you, because I was impressed by a couple of the details here. A chance meeting with charming neurosurgeon Ryle Kincaid sparks an intense connection. But as the two fall deeply in love, Lily begins to see sides of Ryle

that remind her of her parents' relationship. Like Kyle with an R? with an r when lily's first love atlas core again suddenly re-enters her life her relationship with ryle is upended um i i just love those two names ryle kincaid um wow wow wow wow wow wow yeah okay because like that guy ryle or baldoni isn't at like any of the press stuff i think that's what i was reading is like where the fuck's the director and star where's the baldone stir um oh i also didn't realize that the the the book itself is about domestic abuse and people are like is this movie actually handling it well

wow so it looks like a lot a lot is happening a lot going on hey ryle baldoni baldoni come to these screenings oh wow that's just a thing i just came up with that's cool man yeah and that's cool bro and that is cool man um miles yeah we love to talk about people swimming through shit in the heart of poly um the sen is gross still gross uh but apparently swimmers have a solution and i i'm intrigued by this okay um so apparently being an open water swimmer, this is not their first rodeo. Uh, when it come rodeo, the rodeo being swimming open mouth through a bunch of, uh, poopoo water. That's a thing that you have to do a lot as a distant swimmer. Sure.

And so they have methods for trying to flush their system. Uh, so they don't get an infection from all the shit water. Um, and apparently one of the tricks uh maybe it's an old wives tale maybe it's uh science but uh it is like kind of openly adopted is chugging a can of coke to poison whatever living microbe is trying to like work its way down your throat and get into your stomach so probably not probably not the resounding endorsement that coke coca-cola is looking for from their olympic sponsorship sure sure yeah official drink of people who have swallowed shit followed shit coca-cola always wait so they the theory is just like coke it has some kind of magical power to destroy the bacteria essentially i mean this is a uh an urban legend that we uh

debunked i think a myth about this back at cracked because i i think a lot of people have done the thing where you put a tooth or something in a cup of coke and it like immediately dissolves it dissolves or something yeah I remember that so I remember there was one that was like the highway patrol used to like clear accidents by spraying them down with coca-cola like to like get things off of the pavement I was like that's a terrible idea it'd be so sticky that can't be true and that turned out it was not true but in this case Moesha Johnson of Team Australia said

the myth of Coca-Cola is true we will often have a Coca-Cola afterward just to try to flesh out anything inside of us wow wow so drink enjoy Coke or use it like it's like a lie I was like like moe's all of your insides

i was like there's is this a black woman and i looked no uh i was thrown off by the name moesha johnson that's i'm like who were they moesha fans mo to the eat to the and they're like oh yeah you know what see we should name our daughter marisha daughter marisha marisha yeah um wow well yeah drink a coca-cola i mean that's like i feel like it is sort of like the same thing like with black people it's like ginger ale is like what solves all things possible mcdonald's sprite is a is a tincture from the gods so yeah man coca-cola sure yeah multiple doctors told the wall street journal that there's no scientific evidence of coke's cleansing properties but you know it's the reason that gatorade is not just salt water that they put

like bright colors and sugar in there because it feels good and when you feel better like you you know tend to do better yeah so um it's well uh also just the the article ends with you know or maybe it just we shouldn't be swimming in the sand um despite the reassurances some argue swimming in the sand was never a good idea i I would never have selected the Seine. Davy Jones, professor of environmental science and public health at Bangor University, told BBC Science Focus, I know it's iconic, but it also runs through a hugely urbanized area, which is always a recipe for disaster when it comes to potential exposure to chemicals or biological pathogens. I would have never selected the Seine, uh davy jones ghost of legendary pirates yeah yeah um i don't know why i swam in the ocean and where i could have reclaimed their soul that's right um all right fox still struggling with uh tim walls yeah they're trying to come up

with an angle it's gonna resonate new one twitchy tim is trending uh because jesse waters has absolutely found the fucking hammer blow to the whole tim walls is daddy vibe train that's happening uh here's here's this jesse waters trying a new one he's enthusiastic and effusive i think is what he means here but hey hey, let's let him embarrass himself. Here's Twitchy Tim on stage waving profusely in a very unsettling manner. Very unsettling. Okay. Frame by frame,

how would you describe that wave? Um. Waving? Yeah, it was like waving. Maybe how you wave at a kid? Waving enthusiastically. Yeah. Like, at the wrist, wrist you know you're not doing full you know you're not moving from the shoulder you know it's not a big wipey wave it's a little wrist flick at a wrist look at it look at a wrist okay cool i would i would also describe it as

uncool but not necessarily trying to be cool yeah that's yeah looks sincere. We'll move. Okay, go on, Jesse. That was exhibit A. Men should not move this way. It's not the way we do it. The handshake is probably the most telling. This is Waltz and his wife shaking hands like business associates. It's awkward to hug

and kiss your wife in front of thousands of people, probably. And she was also kind of like, oh, well, hello there. He did a thing where they were like waving yes yeah and he kind of pulled her in for a hug via a handshake again this this is what you're saying with kamala's husband doug interesting and then he hugs another man yeah oh he really went in for the hug oh the boy they're just such the boys like that oh my god wow i will say at times that one laugh he did felt like he was putting a little too much sauce on it you know it was like i was like is that you tim but that's okay because it's pretty well I was like, is that you, Tim?

But that's okay, because it's pretty well known he's not one of these big powerhouse political performers at rallies. He's a pretty normal dude. He's not a teleprompter guy from what I was reading at all. So whatever. But he seems like a normal guy who's getting used to having to be in front of thousands of people and be like a focal point and not just be like, Hey, good to see you. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Give a little something to the crowd. You know what I mean? Um, but yeah, there's just, and you know, the tampon Tim didn't think work doesn't now it's twitchy Tim. We'll see what happens. Uh, he just seems to be genuinely excited and that's, they don't know what to do with that. So the struggle continues. Unfortunately. Uh, we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back in 1982 atari players had one thing on their minds sword quest this wasn't just a new game atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists, but the prizes

disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.

Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Substance use disorder and addiction is so isolating. And so as a black woman in recovery, hope must be loud. It grows louder when you ask for help and you're vulnerable. It is the thread that lets you know that no matter what happens you will be okay when we learn the power of hope recovery is possible find out how

at startwithhope.com brought to you by the national council for mental well-being shatterproof and the and we're back we're back and uh islamophobia seems to be have you heard about this stuff because it seems to be having a bit of a moment like even more than usual um so the reaction to the riots in the uk um has been there there's a good jacobin article we'll link off to in the footnotes but just very tolerant of white supremacists uh reticent to call out and condemn islamophobia when they see it and like not not willing to call this white supremacy like terrorism when when they see it if you aren't up on you know the international news there was a horrific mass stabbing of children by a person who you know a lone wolf native-born english citizen um and it was blamed on uh immigrants by a Russian social media account. And that rumor kicked off massive white supremacist terrorism and right-wing riots complete with book burnings, Nazi salutes.

Burning cars, buildings, attacking hotels where asylum seekers were staying. staying yeah just setting up roadblocks to check people's skin like i've there's been a lot it's fucking scary shit yeah yeah and the government seems to be having a hard time recognizing it as terrorism that needs to be dealt with as such and there yeah there just seems to be a mainstreaming of Islamophobia like and then just I don't know as right wing groups become more popular it just like we need to be really careful about when

watching the mainstream media like catering to them and moving policy toward them like with all these elections happening and being like well what about this like is this unpopular would this make you more popular it's like that's no like it that that can't be part of the calculation it is interesting because like oddly enough the u.s is slightly ahead of the uk here with being like yeah man white supremacist terror uh i mean we don't like to talk about it because

you know that definitely appeals to a certain subsection of media consumers right yeah like like in that article and i think just generally hearing a lot of the commentary is like this has just been allowed to simmer like underneath the surface that this just little bit of disinformation set off a ton of wacky shit i mean i am heartened to see the amount of counter protesters that have also come out to really be like fuck out of here like this yeah this is not happening because there were a lot of uh sort of protests that was uh that were being you know coordinated by this uh you know like regressive right-wing white supremacist group in the uk um but that was met with a lot of counter protests but yeah it's

this is it is this is sort of what happens when that kind of rhetoric goes unchecked and when you don't push back enough it's acceptable enough that people will then act out this shit in public in like physical space it just feels like the way the our like the american mainstream media has like metabolized the student protests like they just seem to have been like you know that wasn't a thing that got brought up when objecting to josh shapiro you know the like that wasn't or it was i'd say like people on the left were yes exactly concerned about josh shapiro's characterization of people who are fully there to protest the genocide in gaza yeah and again this is something rhetorically that people like to use to sort of begin to fuse anti-semitism into the

conversation so then now you're having to then debate whether or not it's anti-semitism when your stated goal is to say i'm trying to stop genocide then there are definitely bad faith actors but that is not the point of the like 99.99 of the people like what they're being fucking killed yeah um and this yeah like you know cory bush uh who is a member of the squad in missouri lost her primary apac put in like something like nine million dollars to unseat her and again i think it created like you know a political misstep that she was critical of israel you know exactly like it's just like well should have known better in the mainstream this is also i think a lot of people don't understand too as many people of color do see

their struggle intertwined with what is happening with palestinian people of course and that that we are living in a world that says human or not human, and you are allowed to be on the receiving end of some horrific oppression and having your rights stripped away. So then to then condemn people who are saying, like, I see our parallel struggles as being intertwined and like the liberation that we're seeking is to dismantle these systems of oppression and colonization. the liberation that we're seeking is to, you know, dismantle these systems of oppression and colonization, uh, to then have that be like, well,

you went a little too far there. I think shows everyone sort of what the stakes are in terms of pushing back against the status quo. Um, and I think that sort of definitely like to your point, like American media has definitely for decades been like some people in the middle East are just bad guys who we've flattened into these one-dimensional caricatures of bad people and not human beings experiencing

their own struggles and trying to live their lives in a way like every other human being is um which i think also again another thing that was trending was kamala's rally in michigan uh that happened yesterday and uh like protesters who were there because again there was some of there's a huge um arab and muslim population in michigan that they were there to protest the administration's you know co-signing of what is happening in gaza and the west bank and people were interrupting the speech they were protesting um now i know in the beginning kamala first tried to say hey you know like i this is a democracy that's why i'm here your voice is valid all of our voices are valid but i'm speaking here and then they kept going and she said something to the effect of like look if you want donald trump to win just say that

and the crowd erupted and like yeah you know big d democrat twitter started like dunking on these protesters in a way where you're like you you we need to like for these people they have to look at these people as also very concerned about what is happening and what is happening in the name of americans and american tax dollars um and kamala met with the organizers from the uncommitted movement and yes but it yeah it's mainly like the response like online and you know where it was like yeah shut the fuck up was just like wait what what yeah why yeah that that's the kind of thing that disturbs people who are you know really concerned with any kind of sort of like liberation movement and to have like someone who's at the top of the ticket sort of just like try and

being like i'm gonna reinforce the status quo and everyone's gonna cheer that does not feel good so that is something i think that the harris waltz campaign hopefully addresses because that was sort of like the first big you're like ah it ah, it's wobbling again. You're in Michigan. You could have even just said something like, I totally understand where you're coming from. No one wants to see this massive loss of life on a scale like this that is harming innocent children and people. It's terrible. Let's find a time to speak, but please allow me to finish. You know what i mean like there's a way to diplomatically say that acknowledge them and doesn't necessarily make

you look like you've caved to the quote hamas wing of the party as conservatives or moderates are trying to say um and like this is at a time right now too where nearly 75 percent of voters 75 percent of americans right do not want to be dragged into a war in the middle east um over netanyahu's desire to stay in power so articulating some kind of boundary is especially prudent at a time like this at the very least oh as a way to deter netanyahu from his worst impulses as things get more and more tense um with his feud with hezbollah in iran um so i don't know like so everything just feels like in limbo people are looking for answers and i feel like this is now the time too for kamala and the the kamal the harris walsh campaign to truly begin articulating like what this administration is

going to stand for like we know what you're against you know it's not enough to say we're against tax breaks for billionaires well then say we are for taxing the fuck out of billionaires so we can offer people more social services it's not enough to say you are against gun violence uh you know say you are for substantive gun control laws and articulate what it looks like and people are so stretched so thin rhetoric alone isn't going to inspire hope like people need to see a road map so we know where we are and where we are going and how we get there it's not enough anymore to just be like yeah that's bad and i know they said like obviously you support a woman's right to choose you want to codify roe v wade like okay that that's that's a talking point that makes sense

because you're saying if they're codify roe v wade well will that happen tbd but at least you're articulating something that people can put something a bit of like emotion into and i bring this up because trump did like a virtual town hall Because he's not really going in public anymore. Or as much. Where he was like in Sturgis. It was like with bikers in Sturgis. He's like on the phone, right? Yeah, he's on the phone. And on Fox, they're like, hey, what's something you want to ask President Trump?

This is a really, I think, a really instructive moment. Because this is someone who, this is a fucking stars and stripes vest cladded biker who looks like, you know, the character, like a caricature of what you think a MAGA person is. And I just want you to hear like what this guy's question is for Donald Trump and how terribly Donald Trump even handles this. What are you going to do about bringing down the rent and things like that in the economy? Because out of eight children that I'm a father and a stepfather to, five of them are struggling and I'm giving them part of my income on a regular basis. How are you going to make the economy not just the food and electricity, but bring down the rent the rent prices the housing prices so that these kids can survive without their parents help such a good question you're right i hear it very well and i i tell you first of all i i love the people that you with i know that i must have at least 99 perhaps 100 of all of them and i think they're incredible we are going to drill, baby, drill.

We're going to bring down the cost of energy. Energy is what caused the worst inflation, I think, in the history of our country. Food prices are 50%. Sometimes more. You look at bacon. Bacon is quadrupled. You can't order bacon. You can't order anything.

We're living horribly. We have the worst inflation. Okay, I got gotta stop right right this guy's like drill baby drill i've got eight kids i'm supporting and he's like we're gonna drill and find and then your kids will be able to pay their rent in bacon slices because bacon will now be it's like you're not again this is like such a real experience that american people are in the entire political spectrum it's it's touching them and so like this is again if you can articulate something that is a little bit like because right now the

other guys is being like drill bacon uh-huh uh-huh drill for oil is my answer to your children's rent yeah abilities exactly and like this is at a time when a lot of moderates and like establishment democrats right-wingers in the media they're all saying some version of kamala better say sorry for exactly and like this is at a time when a lot of moderates and like establishment democrats right-wingers in the media they're all saying some version of kamala better say sorry for wanting single-payer health care or people will be mad it's all about apologizing for any progressive leanings in the past feels like the yeah this ain't the time to do that like you have you have excited young people who think that something can be made of this. So offer something different. And when you just refuse to articulate something, that allows people to reflexively think, oh, this ticket isn't going to change anything.

Yeah, yeah. The one mainstream media criticism I've seen of Harris that I think is worth paying attention to is that in polling, and again, polling is not uh true like a snapshot but um in polling about who you trust to like handle the economy um they like she runs 10 points behind trump because he's a rich guy i think in people in people's mind um so there's work to be done there to your point like and yeah the way to do that is not to just like sit back and try not to offend people but to like have ideas that you can put out there um because that's how you drill for oil to lower rent because you're you're gonna get applause if you say the rent's too damn high and housing price are too high. Food costs are too high.

Yeah, sure. Yes. Then now fucking articulate what the plan is like what. And I get you've only been in the driver's seat of your own campaign for a little bit. So that is coming. But I think that's truly the next thing. Like the Democrats passed their first challenge by picking a vice president that helped like augment the likability of the ticket and now the next one is truly going to be

like what can you articulate policy-wise to now really get people to be invested in and what this future is going to be because if it's just you know look at look at trump aren't these people fucking weird you can't fucking coast off that into November. Like it's just impossible. And I know that that is coming because no, like what fucking administration or potential administration doesn't articulate those things. But this is the next thing that will help, you know,

get more people interested in what this, this ticket looks like or be more deflated and yeah I think after I think a lot of people saw that comment to protesters who were just you know speaking up on behalf of Palestinians um and were like ah man like that's it's a huge issue that like a lot of a lot of people are concerned with but I think for them uh they probably see this as like as a minority of people and if they can just kind of whatever they can if they can there's probably more people that don't care than do care and maybe that's their calculus but i think it's yeah um there's a lot of there's work to be done there's work there's work for sure all right uh that is gonna do it for us this afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show until then be

kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, get the flu shot. Don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years.

I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister? Or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.

They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky.

The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts.

What happens when a professional football player's career ends and the applause fades and the screaming fans move on? I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. For some former NFL players, a new faith provides answers. You mix homesteading with guns and church. Voila! You got straightway.

Be trying to save everybody. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.