The Daily Zeitgeist - IT WAS ONLY NUKES! Burger King The Creepiest Of All? 08.15.22

Episode Date: August 15, 2022

In episode 1309, Miles and guest co-host DJ Danl Goodman are joined by co-authors of How to Be Fine: What We Learned from Living by the Rules of 50 Self-Help Books and the hosts of Romance Road Test, Kristen Meinzer and Jolenta Greenburg to discuss... Ohhhh so they planted nuclear secrets…, Burger King Has A Long History Of Creeping People Out and more! Burger King Has A Long History Of Creeping People Out Burger King Just Sent a Blank Email to Everyone Tim Hortons app tracked movement in violation privacy laws -Canadian regulator Tim Hortons Offers a Free Coffee and Pastry for Spying on People for Over a Year Here’s Why Burger King Just Mysteriously Sent Thousands of Customers Blank Email Receipts Burger King Ad that Uses Voice Control Backfires, Then Goes Viral Delete 10 Facebook friends, get a free Whopper The Untold Truth Of Burger King Check Out: By The Book Pod LISTEN: Confession by BudgieSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, Internet, and welcome to another wonderful, wonderful season. In fact, season 250, episode one of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of Drive Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Monday, August 1-5, August 15th. You know what day it is, Daniel? The Ides of August? No. Well, okay, that 15th. You know what day it is, Daniel? The Ides of August?

No. Okay, that's fine. Clever. National Leathercraft Day, because I know you like that leathercraft. That's right. We do the national days. That's right. National Relaxation Day.

So please relax. Okay. National Lemon Meringue Pie. Down with that. You like Lemon Meringue Pie? Oh. I'm not mad at it. Oh.

Okay. What does that mean? It's not my favorite pie. I mean, I do like it sure i like lemon meringue pie yeah but i mean you know ambivalence is how i would describe yes okay if someone were to present me the lemon meringue pie i would say wow thank you so much and i would eat the whole dang thing oh okay i would be like that sounds like i need a whole pie that was aggressive i mean a slice of pie if someone if i was the whole no no challenge accepted i'm going

to present you with a lemon meringue pie and if if you don't eat the whole thing, I will be terribly offended. And it will be drama. Okay? I walked into this. I walked into this. Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Hold on.

Let me just get this. Jack's gone. I'll have you on. Rip Bugs. Cash Bugs with anyone. My cold brew is strong. Rip Bugs. Rip Bugs cast bonds with anyone. My cold brew is strong. Rip Bugs. Rip Bugs. Okay, shout out to anybody

who fucks with Kraft. The track Headstrong. Were you punching through drywall as an angry teen like I was tonight? Well, shout out to Hannah Ramick View on the Discord for that wonderful aka Yes Jack's Gone. And I will have you on, Daniel. Which allows me to introduce my wonderful guest co-host, Mr. DJ Daniel Goodman.

How do you pod? Well, you make me a pod with Miles. Anyway, that was off the top. Anyway, happy to be here. Miles, happy to be here. Wait, that was, you're doing Incubus right there? Incubus, yeah. A little Incubus.

Slightly different kind of like tone, but I was in the same kind of like world. People laugh at Incubus, but in Southern California, bro, bro, we were listening to that shit. That was the vibe. If you were playing guitar in high school, you were learning Incubus songs. Oh, yeah. 100%. Like stellar. Meet me in outer space.

That line, as like a 19-year year old who just started doing like mushrooms. I was like, yo, this is the heaviest lyric. He said, meet me in outer space. How do you even get there? I almost got that shit tatted. I'm not joking. Wow. So allow me to show a dimension of myself that I'm not too proud of.

But that is the truth. We were feeling incubus out here. But let's move on to people with greater levels of self-respect and achievements than Ali's. We are thrilled to have in the studio, two wonderful podcasters, as well as co-authors. Maybe you know them from their podcast by the book. Maybe you've heard about their book, how to be fine. What we learned from living by the Rules of 50 Self-Help Books. And if you like self-help books, great, great topics to talk about because I think all of us, we look in there and say, does this stuff work? What if I really followed to the letter of the law? Guess what? They did that. And also you can hear them on the latest show for Romance Road Test. Again, trying out different kinds of advice, seeing what the results are. Please welcome to the microphones.

We have Kristen Meinzer and Jalenta Greenberg. Hello. Hi. Welcome, welcome. So excited to be here. Thank you for stopping by. We feel like we should sing, but we're not going to. That's fine.

No pressure. Jalenta is such a good singer, by the way. She is. not gonna that's fine you know no pressure let's look jolenta is such a good singer by the way she are you i just can't come up with like you know a song from our youth and and then make podcasting lyrics about it on the fly jolenta you got you got you got some pipes no oh she's being modest she has a beautiful voice okay what's your karaoke song What's like your number one karaoke? What's your go-to? Oh, that's hard. I'm always good to do nine to five because people get impressed. If you can keep up with all of like the fast lyrics, which I usually can, depending on my level of inebriation.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are chops right there. It's the end of the world as we know it for the other fast lyrics. Wow. Yeah. TikTok is hard also. Oh, yeah. TikTok is hard also. Oh, yeah.

Oh, TikTok does go. What about you? Kristen, do you have a go-to? Oh, absolutely. My go-to is always Raspberry Beret by my hometown hero, Prince. He's from my hometown, Minneapolis.

Okay, shout out. One thing I really like about that song is you can kind of talk half of it instead of sing it. Sure, you can swag it out. And since I'm not a good singer is you can kind of talk half of it instead of sing it. Yeah.

Sure. You can swag it out. And since I'm not a good singer, I can just, you know, talk it through. Love to hear that. I was working part time at the Five and Dime. My boss was Mr. McGee. Do you hear that? Wow.

See? Whoa. Yeah. Expert singer. Drift out in swag. Oh, wait. So where are you both coming to us from? Are you in Minneapolis or what cities are we in collectively right now?

We are both in Brooklyn. Okay. Not too far apart from each other, but in our respective homes. Okay, fantastic. Love it. Shout out Brooklyn. Man, we've had yesterday or on Friday's episode too. We had some people from the 718 checking in. Brooklyn in the house. And also Becca.

Look, we're a national international podcast, obviously, but we're out here. And so tell us a little bit about your newest show. Because as someone who, I used to read a lot of self-help books in college because I thought that would make up for never going to therapy. Turns out therapy is more effective than self-help books in most instances. But when I saw the premise of this, I'm like, okay, what I like you, I'm like, you're in my similar mindset of like, let's test the advice. Let's see what is actionable. Give us a little bit of a taste of what's going on with the new show.

Yeah. So Romance Road Test, we, rather than reading full self-help books, cover to cover, 450 pages of how to improve your life, we just snack on short articles, TikTok videos, YouTube videos, and so on that are dispensing relationship hacks, things that we find in women's magazines and so on, and we apply them to our relationship. So everything from do something terrifying together to assemble flat pack furniture to get closer with your partner, introduce each other to your hobbies, read smut to each other. We do all of the things. Sex every day for a week. Yes. All of that. I saw grooming as well, grooming each other. Grooming each other. Oh, yes. Yes. We do all that so you don't have to.

You get to eavesdrop on it because it's kind of an audio reality show. So we tape ourselves laughing, crying and fighting through every one of these hacks. Oh, that's amazing. Great. Is there is there one like because like you've typically this is kind of like the stuff you focused on was like taking knowledge or self-help things or relationship advice. What's been like the most surprising thing that you're like, this is the this will never work. And you're like, oh, they were right about that. Damn, that really worked. you're like oh they were right about that damn that really worked i mean i don't want to speak for you kristin but i'm going to but i would say uh trying i would say trying something terrifying together was was a surprising thrill shall i say like it was definitely something i went into reluctantly and was like this will not work but. But like, you know, when your nerves are up, like your endorphins are up and then you guys are like bonded and like jittery together.

And it's like, yeah. Right. Yeah. It supposedly simulates a lot of the same feelings you have when you're first falling in love with someone. The uncertainty. Where do we stand? We're not on firm ground. What's happening here?

Right. And then also the shared trauma of surviving that terrifying thing. The trauma bond afterwards. And that was one of the only hacks that we did that both Jolenta and her partner and I and my partner, it was one of the only ones that we all universally felt was great. And that's relative, right? ones that we all universally felt was great. And that's relative, right? Because for me, something terrifying would be to, you know, go to a Lululemon opening.

That sounds terrifying too. What are the parameters? Like if someone who's listening right now says, what's the sort of sliding scale to say this is terrifying? This is adequately terrifying to improve my relations. That was going to be my question. this is adequately terrifying to improve my that was gonna be my question what is the terrifying thing yeah if you're if it's just for us it was just like what we could agree on as a couple like because you know even yeah the stuff that terrifies you may not necessarily terrify your partner but you gotta find like a bit of a middle ground right and like it doesn't have to be too extreme as long as it makes both of you a little hesitant. Right.

Like, go to, like, a mattress store and cut off the tags. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Just thrill-seeking. Never know where we end up. This is apparently a federal offense. Wait, so do you mind if I ask what you both did respectively as your terrifying events?

Yeah. So my husband and I did something that on the outside probably just looked cute, but on the inside was so scream inducing that half of the audio from that episode is just me screaming the whole time. It was us riding a tandem bicycle together. And I'm literally screaming at the top of my lungs through half this episode. screaming at the top of my lungs through half this episode. And Dean, when he gets very tense, he just goes silent. So it's just him saying nothing and me screaming the whole time. Wait, so are you not comfortable on a bike? What made it terrifying? Or the idea that the two of you have to in tandem keep the bike upright? Well, I am not a super confident bike rider in the city. I can ride a bike maybe on the beach, but I've been in bike accidents. I've been hit by bikes before. I've been injured by bikes. And meanwhile, my husband, he's just a little bit too much of a thrill seeker on bikes.

And just a few weeks before we did this, he was in the ER because he had a mountain biking accident. So the last thing I want to do is get on a bike with somebody who's so reckless that he gets into mountain biking accident. So the last thing I want to do is get on a bike with somebody who's so reckless that he gets into mountain biking accidents. And the last thing he wants to do is get on a bike with somebody who's too scared to ride a bike in the city. And so it was terrifying for both of us. Okay. What about you, Jalenta? I mean, mine was like very heteronormative, but my husband and I, I drove us to the beach. And normally, even though we're both like very good drivers, he's the one that tends to drive, especially in the city. I'm like, I'll drive out of the city, no problem. But he tends to do the city driving. And so just him sort of

giving up that control and like letting me have it and me sort of getting my my sea legs or like my city driving legs again was definitely terrifying like I tend to be like maybe a little overly cautious which will get you like honked at and like yeah you know there was lots of yelling but in the end we couldn't believe we made it and like we were definitely on a high nice and i think yeah actually the more i ask i'm like wait the real exercise here i think for somebody trying to figure out what is a good activity is more to be open enough with yourself to be like what are my vulnerabilities actually because that those will probably lead to more trying activities that will only enrich the relationship for sure uh okay cool well before we get to know

you both even better just want to give the listeners a preview of what we are going to be talking about first you know we were speculating like why are all the lawyers being like they probably planted stuff at mar-a-lago so we'll we're starting to get an idea of maybe what they quote-unquote planted uh rather what donald trump was taking from the White House. And then we're going to check in with our with our king, the Burger King. They sent out like a creepy email that like had everybody thinking that they had ordered something from there. And then they're like, it's a joke.

But people are failing to understand what the joke is here. If it was a privacy data breach. So we'll just go over some of the burger king's trying history with trying to be like hey it's me with this bad idea for viral marketing um because it's actually it's a pretty lengthy one okay uh but before we do any of that gotta ask you both kristen jolenta what is something from your search histories that is revealing about who you are. Oh, well, I was literally just searching Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville Times Square because I have a little bit of an obsession with Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville restaurant and resort. They exist all over the world. I dream of going to many of them, if not all of

them before I die. But I was just clued in on the fact that the one in Times Square has a rooftop pool, so you really can feel that five o'clock somewhere feeling in the middle of Times Square, poolside, with that Jimmy Buffett feeling. And who doesn't want to feel that? Who is bankrolling all of this like margaritaville empire exactly like it's all jimmy buff like obviously like some vc money or like in like capital investment came into this yeah i don't know who's behind it but i think that person or that you know conglomerate i thank them because i've had many good times at various

jimmy buffett's Margaritavilles. I've had good times in the ones in airports like in Cancun and San Juan. I've had good times at the one on the beach in Atlantic City. They always are just so corny and unpretentious. Yeah. And corny and unpretentious. I kind of feel like that's sort of me. Sure, sure, sure.

And also kind of elderly, you know. I'm kind of like an 82-year-old trapped in this body since I was seven. You're like, look, it's 5 o'clock in my mind all the time. Yes, all of that. I do have one of the drink makers. I have paid my dues at the feet of Buffett. To the empire. And how does the drink maker work?

Does the drink turn out magically delicious? got at their house and like, man, I got all this passion fruit. I got to do something with it. And then she surprised me with like the three blender, like three tank Margaritaville Tahiti machine where there's like an ice reservoir on top and you just set it to like margarita, daiquiri, smoothie, whatever. And you hit the button, the ice drops, auto blends, re-blends, re-drops. And by the end of it, you just pull it off and you pour it. It's fully automated. Oh, I love it. Keeper.

So you can make like a frosé and anything. Yeah, you could do anything. So you could do at one time, I could be like, oh, here's a pitcher of daiquiris, a pitcher of frosé, and some smoothies for the kids. Oh, my gosh. Do a couple button flicks. Boom, we're pouring.

Mind blown. Yeah. I need this. Yeah. But again, if you know anything about the, if there's like a sordid business history behind the Margaritaville empire, please let us know. I'm very curious. Like who is, who is behind this Margaritaville?

Pardon me. It can't just be Jimmy Buffett. I know he's the founder, but who else has their hands on this? Jalenta, how about you? What's something from your search history? Actually, last thing I was looking at was also a dining establishment, a place called the Lexington Candy Shop, which is, it's on the corner of Lexington and East 83rd Street in Manhattan, New York. And I was on TikTok and I saw this video of someone making like a super old timey Coke, like just a Coke where they like pump in a bunch of syrup

and they use like the soda fountain and pour in the soda and like stir it up and like, there's your Coke. And they were like, you gotta see this, like almost a hundred year old, like luncheonette. They've got soda jerks. And then, yeah. And then it was like in New York

and I was like, well, I gotta look this up. So it's like this super cute, like luncheonette that has like an old timey, like soda fountain, like soda jerk. I don't know the lingo, but it looks adorable. And it like was it opened in 1915. So. Oh, wow. Oh, wait, not 19.

Oh, shoot. Sorry. I got it wrong. No, no, no, no. 1925. Oh, wow. So, no, no, no. 1925. Oh, wow. So it's almost 100 years old. Damn.

Yeah. And it looks adorable. And so are you your big like food, like retro nostalgia food type person? Or is this or is this just happened to be something you just searched? By accident, I've always loved a really good diner. Yeah, yeah. Sort of by accident. I've always loved a really good diner.

Yeah, yeah. Especially my husband ended up covering a campaign trail for work. He's a journalist. And so that involves going to lots of diners. Yeah. And like stopping to like meet the people. And so then he would go to lots of diners and then I'd visit him. And then like going to diners was sort of a thing of ours.

So I'm always kind of like a little interested and i love i love i do love the nostalgia of the decor and just like who doesn't want like an egg cream like once every few years to be like oh yeah that's why i don't have them that often exactly to remind you that's why i never drink this shit yeah i remember as like a kid like in the early 90s they used to sell like bottled egg creams and i remember as a kid being like i want that and my i remember my dad like you don't want that shit he's like i didn't like that as a kid and i was like it's egg cream he's like you that sounds whatever i remember drinking and i was like and it tastes like fizzy mayonnaise with a little bit of vanilla. Wasn't the best experience for me. Yeah.

But we digress. Underrated. Kristen, Jalenta, what is something you think is underrated? Well, there was a movie in the early 80s, which was the pinnacle of roller disco chic called Xanadu. And I am just heartbroken that this past week, Olivia Newton-John died, and every single headline out there refers to her as the star of Greece. And I am thinking, why are you not celebrating Xanadu at this important moment, at this painful, historic moment? Xanadu should be front and center in all of our minds and hearts.

It is where Gene Kelly, where ELO, and where Olivia Newton-John met together in a magic moment that changed music, that changed cinema, that changed our lives. Why aren't we talking about Xanadu? Wow. I'm even... Wait, tell me more about this now? I was like, wait, yeah, ELO. I forgot about that.

I mean, okay, I... What? Yes. That's why it's underrated because people are talking about this. And roller disco. Yes. So Olivia Newton-John essentially plays a muse. And there is this artist, writer, cartoonist, I think he's something or another. He is dealing with writer's block. He needs some inspiration. And then the muses come to inspire him. And one of the muses is Kira, played by Olivia Newton-John. And in her leg warmers and her flowy dresses, she roller skates into his life and inspires him. Along with Investor, played by Gene Kelly. And together, they open the roller rink of Santa Monica's dreams.

It is beautiful. And yes, there's dancing and roller disco everywhere while ELO plays their music throughout. Wow. I mean, I always knew of Xanadu more as a cultural punchline. People would reference Xanadu. I would see it in people's comedic writing as a character's niche obsession. It was like, maybe you knew John Xanadu like I would see it in like people's comedic writing as like a character's niche obsession was like right in John Xanadu and like I always saw the poster and I'm like this looks like if Sandra Dee from Greece like was a Pokemon and whatever her next evolution was

was the Xanadu poster where she's like my hair is even more feathered and gravity has no you know bearings on my existence but But to know like now, I'm like, because I really like ELO too. And I'm like, wait, I'm fucking ignorant as shit. I'm like, that's the whole shit is based on the ELO. The music is so good. I know the movie was a bomb,

but the album, I think, hit number one at the time. Wow. For good reason. The music's fantastic in this. And I got to run this back. Yeah, the movie is just bananas. There's sections where suddenly it just turns into a montage to Singing in the movie is just bananas there's sections where suddenly

it just turns into a montage to singing in the rain and then there's another moment where it all becomes just a cartoon oh wow okay so this is like i like it it's in that period where there is everyone doing psychedelics from the 70s is carrying over to everyone doing cocaine in the 80s yeah here's a good way of putting it. Yes. It's got it all. Okay, I'm checking. Okay, Xanadu, I'm coming for you. And I'm sorry that

I did not take you seriously, Xanadu. Jalinta, how about you? Wow. Well, mine is not as roller disco-y. My underrated thing that I have just been so into lately

is playing cards. Just good old playing cards. Yeah. What games? What cards? What games do you play? I've been playing gin nonstop, almost like forcing my partner to at night. But I feel like it's a good thing to do while we're unwinding and maybe binge watching Friends or whatever at the end of the day.

To be a little more connected or to like a little more like in my own reality. And plus, like, it's fun to just like loosely keep track of who wins all the time. Oh, yeah. Exactly. I love that loose scoreboard. I like to play King's Corner. King's Corners. OK.

That's my favorite one to play passively because if you're not paying attention like you you'll skip your turn and then like completely open the door for whoever you're playing with to be like oh that was a mistake should have been not sleeping i went again uh but also doesn't take much like attention so yes i'm right i'm a big you play cards a lot daniel i you know i think i play cards in similar scenarios, like when I'm with my family or when we're like, you know, passing time together at the end of a night, like usually on like family reunion style things. But lately, me and my partner have been playing a lot of train dominoes. Is anybody familiar? Nah, train dominoes. I mean, kind of works like regular

dominoes. But the idea is it's kind of like Uno where you have a bunch of dominoes and you're trying to put them in an order matching from matching all the way down until you don't have any dominoes left. And similarly, it's passive. It's fun. We do get to loosely keep track of who's winning. And my partner is, of course, 3-0 right now. So, you know, I'm really working on getting back in the mix, but she's just a stellar trade dominoes player. So that's just how it is.

the mix but she's just a stellar trained dominoes player so that's just how it is but um yeah i'm a big fan of the kind of like light engaged gaming of just you know very what you know one-on-one competitive interaction it's fun well and also like it's another way to you know you can you can add texture to merely your passive tv watching too you're yeah, I can actually have the brain capacity to watch this and play a light card game and stimulate all of our senses and, you know, mental faculties at once. For sure. Yeah.

I'm a big fan of cards. Cards are great. I always buy, like whenever I see a weird deck of cards, I like to buy them too. Yeah. I think that also stems from when I was like a, tried to be a magician phase as a kid.

Oh, I love those phases. Yeah. Shout out to anybody. And then you forget which deck that you picked up and you was like, I tried to be a magician phase as a kid. I love those phases. Yeah. And then you forget which deck that you picked up and you're like, Miles, why are half the deck aces of spades? What is this? And I'm like, are they now? And they're like, ooh! And I'm like, I set your ass up.

You didn't even know. I was like, hey, grab that deck of cards real quick. That's how the thirstiest magicians do it. Alright. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back to talk about what's overrated after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah

Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.

Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.

What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports,

where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better

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How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me

about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools

were exempt from that bigger than a flag or mascot you have to be ready for serious backlash listen to rebel spirit on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back uh let's continue on getting to our guests uh what is something you both think is overrated pants yeah no go ahead and i know that during covid we've come to understand that pants are overrated but as we're you know quote unquote you know going back to the office and more and more people have to be in civilization with others. I see trousers coming back. We don't really need trousers. We are with climate change dealing with historically hot temperatures. Why not the

kilt? Why not the skirt? Why not the sarong? It makes no sense to me that part of being a respectable adult is to wear long trousers in public or to work. And I was recently watching that Predator prequel, Prey, on Hulu, which is excellent, by the way. And part of the storyline is the Comanche in the 1700s in this community are dealing with these French fur hunters. And the French people, it's summer. It's humid. They're in Comanche land. And of course, they're wearing long trousers and jackets.

And I'm like, you idiots. Yeah. And then I thought, oh, my God, it's 300 years later and we're still doing this. We're still wearing trousers and jackets when it's freaking 98 degrees outside. Right. And that's what you say to somebody. They're like, you look like a fucking colonizer right now. You're not the rest of the land you're occupying. I'm sorry. What is this? This is not France. This is some other stolen land. But yeah, I agree. I don't like leg jail either or pants as we call them, I guess, in English. Because I know exactly what you mean. Like, there's this perception almost like if you pull up in shorts, like you're unserious.

Right. Yeah. Totally unprofessional. Yeah. I get hot very easily. And the difference between having my like knees and shins exposed versus having them covered is the difference between me like looking normal and me looking like I'm like sweating through like a FBI interrogation or

something. It's like, that's, I don't, I feel like we need a movement to make sure that we don't look upon shorts as an unserious garment. Yes. I think that's the big thing too,

or just exposing your legs, the knees down. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. And again, as I said, the sarong and the kilt,

those allows for more breeze to get up in there. Formal kilt. You know? Yeah. Yeah. There are many, many options. I'm with it.

You can wear it to a wedding, but not the office. Yeah. Unfortunate. I had a major loss of innocence moment when one of my favorite clubs I used to go to all of a sudden had a sign outside that said no hats, no shorts. And I was like, I'm here to dance. Like, I'm going to get no shorts. And I was like, I'm here to dance.

Like, I'm going to get really sweaty. And they're like, Daniel, you can't. No shorts anymore. I was like, no shorts anymore. Is that when you had to use the hoodie to make pants? You remember. Oh, my gosh. Yes.

Yeah. I remember you saying that. The beginning of the hoodie pants. Yes. The beginning of drop crotch trousers. But really, the drop crotch trousers. They're like, he has a really enlarged scrotum that his pants are having to contend with. No, that's a hoodie he's wearing his pants.

That's a hoodie from Swery. Trying to make that joke, that's all I could see. And that would have been my first thought to somebody if I was in a club with somebody wearing hoodies on. I'd be like, what do you think's wrong with him? And someone said, great pants, where'd you get them? I said, it's a sweatshirt. Touche. You fool. Tis a hoodie.

Tis no pants. Jalinta, how about you? What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Or overrated? I'm sorry. Overrated. Right? I was like, underrated was cards. The hoodie thing completely threw me for a loop. Overrated? I'm going to be maybe a bit of a buzzkill.

But I have been thinking that lately the CDC is a little overrated. I'm immunocompromised. I currently take like chemo medication and watching the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, like relax guidelines even more. And like just make public health about sort of personal politics and individual responsibility. Like, I don't know if they're living up to their name. No. Agreed.

Center for narrative control. Right? Yeah. Center for like, we're doing fine during a surge. I hate to turn into a Ben Shapiro type talking point. That's what probably would have been said in 2020. But no, I mean, I think it is always disheartening when you're like, this is where the foremost people looking at diseases and what is a threat to our health are then being like, I don't know, fuck it. Right. What? Like one of the new guidelines

they just put out for schools is basically says like schools should consider non-punitive policies to support individuals who choose to wear masks regardless of COVID-19 community level so like try not to punish kids or teachers who wear masks like like to keep either themselves or family members safe even when it's not like super high transmission like it's just such a bummer to be like that's the guideline you give like it's a free-for-all reveals our lack of any sense of responsibility to like our fellow people in this country you know a lot of other countries there is like even ones that there are like immigrant populations there's like a sense that you're like still like hey we do the right thing for each other whereas here it's

like collective responsibility don't make me fucking wear a diaper on my face while i you know countless people around me suffer the consequences and also like to the idea that you know when when people bring up these talking or not talking points but the issue of like why are we still acting like this is like there's not a pandemic happening. Like the next question really should be why isn't the government supporting people so we can actually put the safety of ourselves first, rather than how much revenue is being generated by like commercial real estate and people going to offices, or etc. Yeah, it is a little, it's hard to hard to like grapple with it all when I feel like so much of it, you know, we could have avoided so much if we did the right things at the onset rather than turning it into this like whatever it is. Hodgepodge. Yeah.

An embarrassment. Sorry to bring down the mood. No, not at all. I mean, we talk about this all the time. I mean, I. Every day. Yeah. Like I was recently in Europe and, you know, a lot of countries there have a very similar tactic or perspective on it, which is this is the flu. And I get for a lot of people, it can be like that. But again, for people who are immunocompromised or for people who, you know, the people who don't know they might end up with long COVID. Right.

The risks are a lot more than just like you're going to miss work for seven days. And I think that's all those other dimensions are completely out of like sort of the mainstream like discussion about it yeah to the detriment of those others that actually need help so yeah no i feel that yeah it just and it just doesn't help for the people who are even like slightly on the fence or who are like you know i mean on the fence is a little bit like relative but you know what i mean and that like people are tired people are like i've been doing this for so long i just want to see a sign of light at the end of the tunnel and when you have a government organization saying we can back off a little bit when it's just not backed up by transmission rates

by you know like wastewater tracing and stuff like that it's just like you're really not helping us move forward feel good like in the long run no in. Like in the long run. Not make us feel good. No, in the long run, which we still don't even have enough research on to call it yet. It's like two years. We do disease tracking for decades before we're really confident

in like how, what we understand about them. Two years, two years. Not really enough. Not really enough. Yeah. So anyway. So yeah, there's like that fear that this could be like a mass like disability

event oh totally mass disabling event because of like that number of people who have long covid who still struggle with like not even be able to work because they're right still have you know the brain fog or fatigue and literally anything uh but yeah just so you know i think most of our listeners know as we always say it's not over mother nope they're saying to not give a fuck about it but if you are so inclined please take care of yourself because it's not this shit isn't going away and i think many of us you know our our guests a few days ago karama karama donkwa she she got covid like twice within like weeks oof wow because of the variants that are going on. So anyway, all that to say, be careful, folks. Let's talk about someone else

who should be very careful. That's Donald Trump. Now, look, we've said it before, we'll say it again. I'm not here to say everything that's happening means Donald Trump's going to jail, finally. Come on, now.

There are so many times we thought that. Haven't we learned now? Oh, boy. It's going to jail finally. Come on now. There are so many times we thought that. Haven't we learned now? Oh, boy. It's going to take a lot to convince me. And by that, I mean, I need to see it happen. Literally, he needs to be in the cuffs walking out with that sad look on his face being led by an FBI agent. However, it's nice to see bad people sweat the shit that they're doing. I will say that.

I like to see the sweat all this flying around the place now around tuesday of last week we began to hear a consistent theme from trump flunkies like like other gop senators or his own lawyers just starting saying things on tv and in the press being like i don't know like what if the fbi planted something or? I mean, no one was looking at what the FBI was doing. They may have planted something. And we started getting this like evidence planted thing going on. I was like, that doesn't sound shady at all, because in the past we used to hear fake news. Don't worry about it.

It's nothing. It's like it's a totally blown out of proportion. Or like like I said in the past like the zielinski phone call where he was pressing him to investigate biden where he was like it was a perfect call like even though there was a transcript he got out ahead and was like it's perfect doesn't matter what's in there because i'm calling it perfect this time it's they're setting me up which is a very different tone and it reminds me of like a friend in high school who got caught with weed in his dresser. And his parents were like strict.

And they got suspicious because his room just was fucking. Smelled like weed all day. Loud. It was loud in there. Loud in there, kid. And they said they were going to search his room. And his first words when his parents were like, get out. We're going to search your room. He said, whatever you find wasn't put there by me.

Oh, boy. get out we're gonna search your room he said whatever you find wasn't put there by me oh boy and you go bruh just fucking point it out just tell them where it is and to go on with the consequences part so this falls in line with a just like it's one of those classic refrains of somebody who is about to find out after fucking around so So when we heard the FBI is planting stuff rather than their trip and nothing to see here, we knew it was going to be some shit. We didn't know quite what it was. We're like, oh, they're talking like they're preparing us to hear something is probably not good.

Well, according to the Washington Post, some shit that we were maybe going to hear about turns out to be potentially nuclear secrets. So, yeah, that's like, I think, a big moment where, like, it'd be one thing if they're like, OK, he took some. I think they were trying to paint it as he took some tchotchkes that he wanted to save. He accidentally brought a box of paper. Oops. OK, 27 boxes of paper, some that were in a skiff that only he knew were there.

And we probably need a lot of people to intentionally put those specific documents in another box. But some of them were like a letter from Kim Jong-un. Oh, lock him up. I wanted it framed. I wanted that one framed. That would look nice on my desk. And all the while, right, Merrick Garlandland uh attorney general has said that the doj they're as of this recording uh we don't know what's coming but he's saying they're going to file

a motion to unseal the warrant so that people can actually see because he's tired of all the conjecture and like all the dispersions that are being cast by the right being like it's nothing let's see what happened they're just trying to harass this great patriot and so he's like no no okay let's unseal it then uh trump said he's like oh yeah me too i want i want everybody to see that as well they're good they should see that but we don't know where you know officially where that stands i feel like again it could be unsealed because maybe he thinks that's the best move it might not be or i could also see this thing being like another tax return thing where he's like um actually my lawyers say that it's a bad idea so i can't do it because my lawyers say do not do it and then we'll be living in that space for a minute yeah dealing with that it's ridiculous

how the script changes so much when he's the one being investigated for possibly having you know confidential materials and then you know, confidential materials. And then, you know, when it was Hillary, it really was lock her up, lock her up, lock her up for like years and years and years. And then it ended up being just very boring emails and cookie recipes or whatever it was she was mailing back and forth. Yeah, like literally the most boring things in the world. And in this case, nuclear secrets possibly. Yeah. I mean, it goes to show, show i mean the irony too is that like because of the hillary thing trump like changed the laws for doj to handle mishandled documents like to treat them as a felony so he's like falling victim to his own bullshit as well which is another you know poetic cherry on top. But with all this going on, you can tell that the GOP is really having a hard time

trying to explain this away. At first, they were just trying to be like, this is a banana republic or Gap, Old Navy. There we go. It's one of these things. This is a holocaust. Yeah, exactly. Or that other brand that shut down that

was like the technical urban wear for men don't know what happened they had a really stellar sale i knew it was a knew they were in bad trouble when everything was 60 off uh but you know doing that or saying that you know they got all these irs agents that can come for you like they're or trying you know trying to redirect to other things or say say, what about Hunter Biden's laptop that does not have top secret things on there? But okay. And they're really, really trying to figure things out. And things got a little more complicated, right? Because last week, this man attempted to enter an FBI building in Cincinnati with like shooting a nail gun at it.

A nail gun. And then eventually dying in the ensuing standoff uh that's it enforcement yeah oh my gosh yeah he went into a cornfield vanished and then they said the operation is over meaning that the he succumbed to a gunfire or maybe other injuries whatever it was but anyway yeah he he did not he did not not survive his attempt to kick off a revolution, which he was on, like things like Parler, I think, or one of the other like right wing social media sites calling for like civil, like saying, I'm not calling. Like someone said, are you advocating for terrorism? He said, no, I'm calling for war. We need to just go to the FBI, attack these places, et cetera, et cetera.

So when that happened immediately immediately all of the people in the MAGA social media world and pundits were like, this is a false flag thing. This isn't a real guy, clearly. Who goes in with a nail gun? Some unhinged person who thinks he can do battle with the government because his cult leader got in trouble?

Yeah. But sure. I mean, all that to say, who would do that? And that's become the newest thing is that this is a false flag crisis actor. They say that a lot. But, oh, those people who stormed the Capitol, that was clearly Antifa. You know, look at that. Those aren't ours. Those aren't ours. Not at all. And this is like always the case, right? They will literally call for bloodshed constantly out loud we hear them be like this is war these people be locked up i'm locked and loaded then when one of these people acts on these impulses suddenly it's we would never do that that's a false flag that's

a crisis they're trying to make us look bad even though we're saying all of these things out loud and i think it speaks to this like bizarre underlying fear that conservatives experience like aside from like the loss of status from what they see becoming like a more diverse nation but also this like idea that you know they they really have this weird ass rambo patriot civil war they fantasize about but are actually like they don't i think are actually like they don't. I think on some level, they don't want to acknowledge how that would completely upend their very comfortable ways of living, like to live in a country that is actually devolving into a civil war.

And I get that every country would look differently. Doesn't mean that you're going to go to your work, check the civil war highlights and be safe, like your life will become increasingly chaotic no one wants to live in a country experiencing any form of civil unrest like that nobody does but in this instance like they insist upon it but then when the reality strikes it's like oh we would never do that that's not something we're interested in that's a false flag we're just we half mean it and it's just a very odd space that they consume because there are clearly many people who are willing to act out on these things and others who

probably prefer to just be the ones who were like, rah, rah, these people on as well. Yeah. I mean, I think the whole stance is rah, rah.

It's, you know, it's, it's constantly back and forth flip-flopping between we want this or we don't want this. We're rooting for this person. We're rooting against this person. And it's purely to like, continue to drive forward this anger narrative of you know you are being

you are being tread upon and you know and and don't tread on us it's it's it's wildly hypocritical it's it's consistent in its hypocrisy it's very predictable in the ways that they will react to certain things and it's continuously disappointing how it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like anybody sees that outside of out or inside of that party it doesn't feel like anybody is upset by a lack of consistency it seems like there's just a continued like we're just going to keep riding for whatever our talking heads say yeah and and more than that and like and less about you know aside from the policy differences in the way that we feel differently about people's rights and and you know what people you know our beliefs

basically what does kind of confuse me more and more is just why isn't there why isn't someone like why do we keep flip-flopping? Like, why do we keep changing our own narrative? Like, I want to believe one thing consistently, and I want to stick by that. And is that, you know, am I, is even me thinking that short-sighted? Like, where is the consistency,

regardless of whether it's like, you know, what you believe in, just like believe in the one thing over and over. I think what's happening is they're they're trying to solve a really like nebulous problem that can't be solved through policy. Right. Like stop this deal. There's a there's an article in The Atlantic recently that was just the headline was stop this deal as a metaphor. Right. Because if you go back to like the patriot or the Tea Party, patriot people, the teabaggers, their whole thing was they think they are a reaction to Obama's election. And it became this thing of like the country's being stole, like this sort of language is being used about this. This isn't our country anymore. And really, because it is about this perceived like loss of status, but you can't solve a problem like that because what they're doing is inherently pushing against like the natural progression of what this country

is looking like. So there, so it's easier to always be in this chaos mode because really it's just a feeling they're chasing, which is, I don't like that white CIS head Christian people are, may not be that the, like the top of the pecking order in terms of like

who succeeds in this country and that we're creating space for disabled people for trans people for people of color to extend empathy to those who need like support then so for them that feeling is like just so overwhelming that it's easier just getting like these bullshit talking points it's like that doesn't really solve anything but all it does is like just so overwhelming that it's easier just getting like these bullshit talking points that's like that doesn't really solve anything but all it does is like you're saying they know that the feeling is fascism or like autocracy where nothing can be decided through voting and just through sheer power and like they're moving towards that without a real way to articulate it all but they have all these like weird sayings and things, which is really just like a catch all for this idea of like, I don't like that things

are progressing in a way where I feel that I'm, I'm somehow secondary, even though people who looked like me have benefited from most of the things that were good in this country. Yeah. Talk to some native Americans about that. Yeah. About having things stolen and then having all your power taken away. How does that feel? Yeah. About having things stolen and then having all your power taken away. How does that feel? or chattel slavery to create the economy which they benefited from to get the the properties that these people are building like generational wealth from there's there's always a thing it's like it wasn't really all me you know i kind of had to fucking do bad shit to get here or

it or it or emanates or the or it originates from those places and yeah so it just creates like a lot of confused people who are angry and it's easy to use these like really clever sayings to kind of keep moving towards this thing where they're not even sure what the end goal is. Aside from as long as everybody who doesn't look like me feels bad about their situation, then that's good enough for me right now. So it's just like it's being pulled in a million different directions. So it's just like it's being pulled in a million different directions. So along with that, right, everyone in the party is also trying to figure out what to do. We have sad little Rudy Giuliani. He's out here threatening revenge raids on Biden in 2025. If Trump wins the presidency, that's what he said. He's like, well, he better watch out because we'll do a raid after 2024. Like, OK, fine.

Sure. Start the clock on that one majorly tainted goon our marjorie taylor green is out here selling like defund the fbi merch like a sentient hotep meme while others in the party like continue attacking the doj and the fbi and it turns out though behind the scenes that may not be the smartest move. This is from the recent New York Times article. It said, quote, Some senior Republicans have been warned by allies of Mr. Trump not to continue to be aggressive in criticizing the Justice Department and the FBI over the matter because it is possible that more damaging information released related to the search will become public that's like cool your jets everyone

yeah where even the people around trump do like a uh this could be a terrible you know just just you know if you're thinking if if you're if you wanted to maybe shut the fuck up i don't know like it might end up looking super bad if you're super aligned with him still. Right. Exactly. And I don't know if you were talking to him a certain time. Whatever. We'll deal with that later.

But all that to say is like on Friday, like on the heels of that article, there was a group of Republicans that were going to address the press and then they canceled it. And then another group came out to talk to the press and man, Congress, this Congressman Turner, uh, he, he tries his best to act like nothing bad is happening. And you can tell he doesn't quite want to attack law enforcement. So this is what we're left with. When you have a bunch of people who are not smart and in a cult try to defend you. It's true that he has classified information or what it is or that it was about nuclear weapons. I can tell you that there are a number of things that that are classified that fall under the umbrella of nuclear weapons, but that are not necessarily things that are truly classified. And many of them you can find on your own phone as we stand here. And if they fall within that category,

they're not an imminent national security threat that would rise to the level of you have to raid Donald Trump's home and spend nine hours there. Oh, boy. Yes, it has to do with nuclear weapons. No, that's not necessarily classified. It's classified stuff, but not all of to do with nuclear weapons. No, that's not necessarily classified. Classified stuff, but not all of it in it is classified. You can find it on your phone.

Also, I'm going to clear my throat too much. Like Robert Durst burping. Yeah, like the burps. I was thinking the same thing. It's like, sir. Like, and I don't know if that's like a tick that he has or whatever. But I was like you. This may be if I'm like a CIA spy hunter. I's like, sir. And I don't know if that's a tick that he has or whatever, but I was like, if I'm a CIA spy hunter, I'm like, this is your tell. This is your tell.

For sure. You're trying to act like, let's go. Let me pause really quick. Because you could find this stuff on, but you could find it on your own phone. I'm sorry. I'm not going to find keyword secret, top secret documents on my fucking phone.

You might find a couple save tiktok videos that i like to save because i'm like i don't like to navigate to the app i like to just summon them for people at times thank you but that's the extent of my documentation on my phone but again it does speak to the idea that now they've like i'm guessing they heard the thing of stop fucking attacking them. And maybe just more became more of a thing of, hey, you know, this stuff's lying around everywhere. I mean, if you go into a, you know, go to a random light pole in D.C., peel back a sticker, you'll probably find some top secret documents behind there, too. Probably find something. You're scrolling through Tinder. Oh, there's a document. Yeah yeah right yeah oh no i guess i should

tell the doj you don't follow nuclear talk they're talking about it all the time yeah come on like not all nuclear secrets are bad okay like what are we saying just because maybe we're revealing some experimental technology that we're trying to keep out of an aggressor nation that might you know do harm to the countless millions or something like that. This is, this is really, this is John Bolton saying, yeah, we've done coups before for sure. But you know, they, they take more planning than that. I mean, like we've done a bunch of coups.

Well, at least that was honest. Like as horrifying as that was, that was the most honest shit I've ever heard. He's like, that's not how you do a coup, bro. I've done coups. I've done coups. Let me tell you something. I've overthrown governments before. Okay, let me tell you what. Stop dry snitching. Me and this mustache here.

Look at it. Look at it. Come on now. It's dancing. But yeah, again, this is, I'm sure the news will continue to get worse because like every day there's a new dimension that comes out. So who knows? By the time this episode airs, you know, maybe we're in the midst of some kind of terrible

apocalypse. I would love to see the pickup that gets recorded on Monday being like, so this was before we discover that, that Donald Trump had actually sold nuclear secrets to Saudi Arabia and use that to leverage a non extradition deal with them. And he fled on a jet there right now. We didn't know that allegedly. Okay.

But I mean, those are the kinds of things that a lot of people speculate, a lot of people speculate about, like, those are are the like that's the value of these documents it could be worth billions of dollars to another country to reveal like this like devastating violent technology or you have other compromise or something that maybe you know is a value to another country that you can use in a weird you know geopolitical poker game But that's what I'm always like. A lot of people have been like me. He might flee or something.

I don't I mean, I don't know. I can't see him having having fun in other countries. But I do see him if things are getting really bad. I don't he doesn't strike me as someone who would stand to account for his actions. But no. And also his reach. I mean, his reach is continually limit or it's like it is it is further and further diminishing yeah with each with every second he is farther and farther away from the

white house like these stolen documents are like the this is the last power that i have grasp on and everything else that he's he's running out of money he's running out of friends he's running out of literal property he's running out of everything what i mean like that's i think we're getting too rosy i think there's there's still like i said there's still enough people who are bought into this idea that they have to fight back against like societal progress yeah that whether it's trump or not i don't see them abandoning him because he's because he's still the avatar for this movement towards like you, correcting the progress of the civil rights movement or whatever these people are coming up on.

So I'm not going to go fully there, but I will say you love to see them sweat. Yes. I love to see them sweat. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk BK after this, not Brooklyn.

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i just feel like they're creepy you know know, like the Burger King mascot guy? That's creepy. He's creepy. I'm still adjusting to him. I'm just going to say just a word for him. I don't think he's as scary as their original Ronald McDonald, though. Oh, yeah. I mean, clowns are always fucking scary.

Plastic head kings. Yeah, but he's like a mixture of like, like, like a guy Fox mask and like that Duracell family from the nineties commercials. Oh my God. All those like super exaggerated facial features, white family, like,

Hey, we're the Duracell people. Yeah. That's what the Burger King guy, like he's definitely their cousin or some shit, but Burger King, they're back at it again, freaking out their customers. They sent a mass email with a blank receipt for an order like

where it just says thanks for ordering from burger king your order will be ready and placed at like with all this blank stuff so it's like it didn't really have any details but it said thanks for ordering and a lot of people were like oh fuck did someone hack my shit and it's like doing what all people do when they immediately get their hands on a hacked account which is by burger king and the burger king later claimed that this was simply they said oh we they're being coy and then said it's just the result of internal of an internal processing error of people were just sort of like, I don't, I've never created a Burger King account. So how do you even have my, like, what is this? So with that piece aside, a lot of people were like,

wait, they're also owned by Restaurant Brands International. And if you remember in Canada, Tim, Timmy's, Tim Horton's, massive data breach where like all this sensitive information like leaked. And like even the privacy commissioner in Canada said like this quote crossed the line for like how much like of this information that came out. And at the time, Tim, like Horton's like, please don't sue us. How about we give you a coffee and a donut? How about some chips? Okay. No, maybe. And, you know know people weren't too happy about that either but sorry about your data loss yeah sorry about your data loss i know someone completely started three credit cards and maxed them out already

with your fake information would you like a cruller or an iced coffee this coffee is only slightly burnt yeah only slightly but like you know this is like a thing that people were like okay whatever what the fuck is going on like this is kind of part and parcel with burger king's like weird creep marketing and a lot of people like this has to be part of like some kind of like elaborate scheme because in the past like this is what they've done in the past in 2017 they made a commercial specifically designed to hijack a google home device yeah it was like so to the point where google had to like the said this from this article quote viewers discovered that by asking okay google what is the whopper burger like the like the speakers would then do all this other stuff. And Google had to intervene and be like, we had to stop this prompt, like from the from the our products, like understanding this prompt because it's causing too much chaos.

And that was it, we thought. And then in 2015, apparently they had to settle of eight and a half million dollar like class action lawsuit over junk fax ads. Like facsimile machines. Faxes. They were ascending in the year of our Lord, 2015. Faxes to fucking people. That's amazing. I believe that.

I worked at a place that got faxes still. It was a theater company. And we would get spam from people like that right yeah every day we get at least like five faxes and it was like 2012 through 2015 or something what yeah and it got to this people had fax machines i don't know either it got like converted into an email and would get sent to like like one of the admins or you're like or like i remember working in an office like one of the admins. Or like I remember working in an office where the big networking Xerox machine was also a fax machine. And then every now and then you look in the printing tray

and then like faxes had come in and you're like, what the fuck? I am not interested in a reverse mortgage on my car. What? But the people that were the members of that class action lawsuit were getting up to $500 per fax that they received. And they could get a maximum of four grand back.

And that totaled out to like eight and a half million. Oh, now I really wish I would have gotten one of those faxes. I was going to say, I want one of these faxes. I know. Where are my 500 bucks? You know, people are making money from getting like coming after the spam text people. Oh, they love me. They're calling me all the time.

I got scammed likely on speed dial. Sorry to completely derail this, but like if you're on the do not call registry and someone is like hitting you up, if you can find out who the actual entity is behind that call, you can typically just be like, here's a form letter that sounds lawyery

and they'll try and settle with you. Okay, here's a form letter that sounds lawyery and they'll they'll they'll try and settle with you okay here's somebody shut the fuck up please get on that i need this i get about 30 calls a day i'm not exaggerating if you're on that and if and it takes it takes energy though like a lot of people say like you have to have the time to be like what is this company who runs it can i get an email uh because it's different than like if you're getting scammed right if someone's calling you and being like, hello, I'm from Windows XP security. That's a different thing. But like when you get the ones that's like, hey, you're auto warranty.

If you can find out who's sending those. Replace your HVAC. Yeah. You can get some money. You know, there's a way to fight back. It sounds like an episode of Get Rich Nick. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Just be like the just balling off of complaints from being on the do not call list another thing i just want to add lastly in 2009 burger king also made a facebook app that you remember facebook apps damn i was gonna say wait what yeah i remember they were like built they were like oh yeah i remember i was just sorry that i haven't used in so long it's believable that you wouldn't remember I just went back in my brain This app Basically said if you delete 10 Facebook friends

You get a free Whopper Sorry Miles you're out I'm getting this Whopper I won't be precious about that Get your free fucking Whopper But then after they were doing it It would also send a message though. If the person got deleted,

this app from Burger King would let them know their friendship was quote, valued at less than one-tenth of a Whopper. Why? Just like dunk on them. And then Facebook shut the shit down after 10 days. That's... How does that...

As a business decision, This is just bad. That part is bad marketing. Now. Now these people all hate Burger King. Like bad business. Why? Why not refer people to Burger King and get 10% off your next Whopper? Right.

As opposed to just tell them they're worth less than one. Fuck these people over. Oh my God. And then we'll message them. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Which is, I'm sure we'll put you into their hearts in a positive way and when they did like an analysis of what happened about 20 000 people took them up like on the deleting the 10 people but then in cnet they were like yeah but they also created 200 000 people who are like pissed at like burger king or things like what the fuck was that burger

king but people get into fights with their friends i mean yeah look the things will do for a free burger i get it things will do uh well jolenta kristin thank you so much for uh stopping by the daily zeitgeist today it's been a pleasure we're both wonderful um where can people find you follow you and listen to you most importantly well they can find our new show, Romance Road Test, at audible.com slash romance road test. It's an Audible original. You can listen to every episode at once. Not at once, but you can binge it. Okay.

And you can also find us at By the Book Pod. That's our regular self-help tryout podcast on basically every platform. By the Book Pod. That's our regular self-help tryout podcast on basically every platform. Buy the Book Pod. Okay. And what about some socials? Where do they do you? Are you guys active or maybe not? I get it too.

Yeah, we're very active on Twitter. We're at Buy the Book Pod and we're also at Buy the Book Pod on Instagram. And we're getting into TikTok a little tiny bit. We just dipped our toe in. Yes. For the pod. It's great. I lurk. I love watching it. I'm a lurker.

I think I only used it once, but it was to use the very easy editing software to send my niece a happy birthday video. I was like, where else can I cut in a green screen with wacky stuff in one app? And I'm like, TikTok, I'll just use it for that. Honestly, the cheapest way to make a great birthday card is like make your cut a TikTok video and then send that.

But don't have to publish it. Anyway. Noted. Note to self. For the lazy. Now, is there a tweet or other work of social media that you have been enjoying? Oh, my gosh. A nutty bird lady.

I love watching birds. I love watching bird videos. I am a big fan on Instagram of Daily Bird Pics. That's P-I-X, Daily Bird Pics. You can see birds that look like monsters, birds that look like dinosaurs, shoe face birds, like literally have faces that look like shoes. Today, there was just the cutest little California pheasant, or sorry, California quail with a baby quail underneath it that just got my heart going. So check that out. Daily bird pics. Love their eggs. Love a quail egg. Sorry. They're tiny.

They're good. They're so cute. So cute. And I crack them on my natto. Sorry. Sorry. But yeah, I love birds. I just saw a quail this morning on my walk.

Really? Yeah. We don't see that in Brooklyn. No, we never see them. Yeah. Hey, but we also don't see rats fighting pigeons out here in LA either, so you know what I mean. It is majestic. You guys do get that. We have no pizza rats out here.

Jalinta, how about you? Any social media posts that you've been liking? Yeah, well, I found this tweet by Linda Holmes who alerted me to the fact that ABC is going to air a special about the Whitney Houston Brandy Cinderella, and there's going to be like a cast reunion and then

they're going to air the film on August 23rd. It's the 25th anniversary of that. Oh, stop telling me things that... It came out in 97. It came out in 97. I recall. I thought if you would ask me, I'd be like,

it came out in like 2010. He came out, what, like eight years ago? Yeah. Try tripling it and adding a year. Yeah. So that was an exciting thing to find out because I forgot how much I loved that until it was brought to my attention again. I need to check that out. You know, that dude who played Prince Charming is still so good looking.

I saw him. Oh, yeah. Paulo Montalban. He does a lot of live theater stuff. Yeah. I need to check that out. You know that dude who played Prince Charming is still so good looking? I saw a tweet with him recently. Paulo Montalban. He does a lot of live theater stuff. He's still looking so good. So fly. A handsome fellow. DJ Danil Goodman.

Thank you so much for helping me co-host. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, watch you? And what's the tweet there? Some other post you'd like. You can find me on the internet at dj underscore danil d-a-n-l on twitter instagram tiktok all that you can find me on twitch three times a week at twitch.tv slash dj underscore danil playing video games telling stories playing dungeons and dragons building computers doing a little bit of everything putting an embarrassing

amount of work into little silly animations and i have building a computer great no problem what's your budget we'll talk about software but yeah i'll build you a computer no problem whatever you want oh that's my budget what's your budget that's what i'm asking you what's your budget um i got two tweets all right one's funny and one's exciting uh one is from kenny keel at kenny keil cdc says go ahead and eat the silica packet. And then the other tweet is from one of mine and Miles' favorite artists, Fred Again.

It's a picture of him and Skrillex and it says, almost here. And in the picture is a little caption that says AL3 final touches in reference to Fred again, putting the final touches on his latest album, which is so exciting. Because if you are unfamiliar, if you haven't been listening to the last week of episodes and hearing Miles just go

about this artist, Fred again is a British producer who put out an album in 2021-22 called Actual Life, which kind of like skyrocketed his interest in the larger electronic music sphere. He was just part of a show called Boiler Room, where they do these live, you know, live events in small spaces with crowds that are right on top of the DJ. You can find it on YouTube, go watch the Fred again Boiler Room. But every song in that set was an original or a collab or something that everybody was like, aongar a banger where's that tune yeah they're all going to be or hopefully at least some of them are going to be on this album and goodness when that album comes out we will be eating we'll be eating well tune really big

tune feel the rumble you can find me at miles of gray on twitter and instagram check me out on miles and jack got mad boosties if you want to hear us talk basketball or maybe you love trash tv and smoking weed like i do and specifically like 90 day fiance like me well check out for 20 day fiance uh with myself and sophia alexandra as we just rant and rave at our trash reality that is like the the calm calm pork in the storm we call our lives. Gotta love the trash. Some tweets that I like. Drum roll, please. And what I mean is let me pull up my likes.

First one from Hannah Dickinson at Hands Dickie tweeted, A guy suggesting a day date on a Wednesday is him soft launching his unemployment. I think that's spot on. Another one is from at Con Blob tweeted. Let me get this straight, Libs. When you laughed at him for not knowing about the nuclear triad, he was unpresidential. But then when he takes time and effort to better himself and study the nukes on his own time in his own home it suddenly becomes a problem hypocrisy much uh love that and then finally there's this clip of ben affleck in an interview

this is from uh marty preciado at marty preciado uh tweeted this is a clip of ben affleck giving an interview in spanish and uh marty tweeted ben affleck speaks an interview in Spanish. And Marty tweeted, Ben Affleck speaks Spanish like if he were raised in Tijuana. And I just want you to hear Ben Affleck come with the fucking Espanol. I'm, I was, I'm taken aback by this. Ben! Wow. Somebody said, how is this man speaking Spanish? I forget who it was. Like, when he has one of the biggest impediments

going against him, being from Boston. But yeah. I thought you were going to say that bad back tattoo. Boston? Oh yeah, that Phoenix tattoo. Yeah, no, that is... No me gusta to that tattoo. But yeah, that Phoenix tattoo. Yeah, no, that is no me gusta to that tattoo. But back to his Spanish.

Incredible. But he's giving Hilaria Baldwin a run for her money right there. Now I just want to see a bunch of clips of him going off. I love when I hear people like speaking new languages. Like the first time I heard Sandra Bullock speak German and I was like what? Yeah, there's always like, look, as like a bilingual person,

I always like to see people flex their linguistic skills. Anyway, you can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We've got a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Thank you, Daniel. Where you can check out all the articles we talked about,

as well as the song we ride out on. Today, I mean, look, until actual life comes out, we'll just be waiting and I'll be listening to bootleg riffs of that track Rumble. But Confession by Budgie is what we are going to go out on. Budgie, I have not heard much. I just kind of came through a playlist I was listening to. And this track i listened to called confession sounded like if you mashed up like japanese city pop through like a

vaporwave machine because it's like kind of rigid chops like some vaporwave artists do but it also has like that sort of japanese city pop texture to it that's very niche music shit i just said but if you know you fucking know so check out the confession by budgie by Budgie, B-U-D-G-I-E. That's going to do it for us today. We're going to tell you what's trending later on. Until then, y'all, we will see you. Bye. Bye.

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