The Daily Zeitgeist - It's A Zeit Day For A Geist Wedding 7/23: Kimberly Cheatle Resigns, Sonya Massey, Disney Strike, Flaming Hot Cheetos Inventor, Home Depot Halloween, Jon Voight

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

In this edition of It's A Zeit Day For A Geist Wedding, Jack and Miles discuss the Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle resigning, the murder of Sonya Massey by Illinois police, Disney cast member...s voting overwhelmingly to go on strike, the man who didn't invent Flaming Hot Cheetos (is now suing Flaming Hot Cheetos), the 2024 Home Depot halloween decorations, Jon Voight blaming propaganda for Angelina Jolie's support for Palestine and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
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Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of it's a zeit day for a geist wedding that is courtesy of max r billy's on the discord billy's i don't uh my name is jack that over there is miles gray oh yep i'm miles aka billy's idol aka billy's that's right you give up big billy billy idol energy yeah not billy ocean billy's idol billy ocean what a name what a name. We love him, don't we, folks? Don't we love him, Billy Ocean? Alright. We said who we are. I'm Jack. That's Miles. Here are some of the things that are trending
Starting point is 00:02:12 on this Tuesday afternoon. The Secret Service director, Kimberly Cheadle, became the less high-profile person to swear up and down they were not going to resign to say, i can't resign i'm the best person for the job um and then finally resign yep yep yeah i mean uh after
Starting point is 00:02:33 i think like again most people who saw what happened on that assassination attempt are like i feel like even in the movies they they disappear you like the second shots are fired like oh get the fuck we're gone we're gone we're gone but they're like the second shots are fired like oh get the fuck we're gone we're gone we're gone but they're like let him get his shoe let him get a photo wait wait let me get my shoe wait wait let me do this well now there's okay all right you got your shoe now okay mr president let's go now let's go wait wait wait let me do something that looks fucking those little pops are bullets snapping by your head all right whatever it's fine it's fine so yeah the fucking hearing was bonkers you're making me look stupid
Starting point is 00:03:12 get off me it was like the did you see any of the the hearing like yeah i saw aoc's uh line of questioning which i thought was actually very smart it's not the part that seems to be getting picked up the most but yeah most people are like tim burkett and stuff who's like you're a woman is that allowed and it's like this is essentially what he's asking and he's like and if you're up to me you'd be gone on mars and you're like okay thanks for that constructive question but yeah aoc was more like what the fuck are y'all doing over there yeah and she also like got in some good questions about you know that mentioned referenced the popularity of the assault rifle that was used and was like so how come you didn't set up a security perimeter to guard against a gun that is basically
Starting point is 00:03:59 statistically everyone at that rally has one in their possession like most likely you know um yeah which i thought was a good gun control talking point that she slid in there um and then also just talking about how the speed of the report which i don't really give a shit about but sure um yeah but she was two months to figure that out only need to 60 days to figure out what how the fuck that fucking story straight oh sorry did i say that out loud i saw new i saw that new york times video you're talking about jack that had all the angles and stuff yeah that one made it pretty clear how like where all the fuck ups were happening yeah yeah um but yeah again like we said conspiracy or maybe uh law enforcement people who are ordained to do violence maybe not always the best at their job yeah um so yeah i mean speaking of which uh we have the
Starting point is 00:04:53 story of sonja massey um a unarmed black woman in springfield illinois uh who was murdered in her home by the police after she called them about someone potentially snooping around her home um just a horrifying the body cam footage is terrifying i don't i could i this i mean i didn't watch the whole thing the second i knew what was going on like i had to turn it off because this woman called the police saying i think someone's trying to break in i'm not sure they they came in. The first thing when they came to her door was like, she said, please don't hurt me.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Please don't. Exactly. And they're like, why would we hurt you? You called us. Yeah. Why would we hurt you? The tone is so eerie. And she was boiling a pot of water.
Starting point is 00:05:38 One of the officers asked her, said, hey, can you actually turn that pot of water off? Because I don't want to fire hazard or whatever. And she goes, oh, I rebuke you in the name of jesus she said like under her her voice or whatever and when she went over there they suddenly treated this pot like pot of boiling water as a threat told her to put it down comply and she was just just murdered in her own murder yeah um but the officer that pulled the trigger i'm surprised at this heat this this happened in the beginning of july he's been arrested and charged with three counts of first
Starting point is 00:06:08 degree murder as he should be um and is being held without bond until his trial um but yeah i mean just again the enough again we still have the same fucking problems in the country and you know these are the kinds of things that you want people who are running for office to be able to touch on to understand that there are generations of people who are traumatized just from hearing over and over about how black people are getting killed by the police just indiscriminately how just people are being brutalized by the police with and there's no legal recourse um these are this is what the fuck we're talking about when we have people just insisting that democracy is over sure i understand that threat but there are other things that are clear and present dangers to the people that live in this country that are being completely ignored
Starting point is 00:06:51 and it's sickening to watch this shit happen over and over and over and over again and that's the part i think that makes people nihilistic is you every four years i'm like i hear you man we got to do something about police and they do fuck all and then this this frustration compounds to the point that you feel so powerless and you're so frustrated at the system that in which you live in they're like what i mean even the people who are promising to do shit about it don't do shit about it and it's and this is these are the these are the fucking holes in our society that we have to begin to repair first before we have anything that resembles what we you know romanticize about this like representative democracy we have here um so yeah it's it's just again this is like the i think the last report that came out about police
Starting point is 00:07:36 involved killings like with police killing people in may the count was up to like something like 469 people that was as of jesus christ man so it's um yeah nothing yeah i mean you're sending racist people the guy's tattoos there was there was something a lot of people were speculating some of the tattoos i haven't seen all of like the analysis but like was rocking some white supremacist tattoos also yeah or you know like fucking rune tattoos that we know are pretty aligned um yeah in the semiotics sense with white supremacy all right let's take a quick break we'll come back uh we'll get to more news stories we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix
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Starting point is 00:10:42 She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything?
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Starting point is 00:11:46 guy jeffrey he fucking he missed he was sick so he missed the vote right but he would it would have been 100 just one person just like didn't make it today but yeah 99 of authorized to strike yeah so they're authorized it doesn't mean they're going to strike yet but this puts disney in a very vulnerable place because what the fuck else can they do but pay their workers can you imagine well what else can we do or scab i guess but yeah just though that would be so wacky just like scab disney like the vibes would be i mean because you know a lot of people who work there tend to at least be somewhat invested in creating the magic for the people who are stressed out about how expensive it is to go there yeah but yeah it's it i guess yeah disney i look man they got you you need this thing the
Starting point is 00:12:35 parks are a cash cow and you don't want to turn that thing into a a cash mouse yeah ah what i did the cash mouse that's like a fucking variety headline cash mouse cash cow cash mouse outside cash mouse house cash me mouse side uh disney makes billions obviously um while one in
Starting point is 00:13:00 10 disneyland cast members have experienced homelessness while working at the park um and 73 percent of disneyland workers say they one in 10 Disneyland cast members have experienced homelessness while working at the park. Um, and 73% of Disneyland workers say they don't make enough to cover basic expense expenses each month. Um, so I feel like this is true in so many industries. Like,
Starting point is 00:13:15 yeah. And again, goes against when a lot of people are saying like, but the economy is so hot right now. Yeah. It's like, it's not hot. If people who have a job are experiencing homelessness or
Starting point is 00:13:26 near homelessness it's hot for making extremely wealthy people extremely wealthier right well do you have like do you have like a hundred thousand in the market right like what would like we got like maybe two hundred thousand in index funds you're like oh huh i'm living in a car You're like, huh? I'm living in a car. Yeah. But yeah, keep lecturing people about the hot economy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Hey, speaking of hot, Flamin' Hot Cheetos. You did it. There's another chapter in the story. So we've talked before about how they made the Flamin hot movie about richard montanez who claims to be the inventor of flaming hot cheetos frito-lay allowed the movie to go forward i guess but then came out with a washington post article or no an la times article like right before the movie came out being like i mean he didn't really invent that shit though why did y'all do that then yeah why let the story go forward they're like but it's a fun urban legend and we we stand beside behind him as a figure but it's just an urban legend
Starting point is 00:14:40 and now he is suing them and basically saying like the company used media coverage to attempt to discredit him and he's lost out on book deals and speaking engagements as a result uh which which yeah like that's the thing i was like i think we were even talking when the movie came out that it was still like a a little bit unclear as to what exactly his involvement was. Because there were other Frito-Lay employees who were like, I didn't know that guy. But that's why I'm curious. What's really going on here? Because on one hand, I could totally see...
Starting point is 00:15:19 I mean, if the LA Times is reporting it, I'd imagine they're doing some level of research. Or maybe they would have uncovered an actual racist plot against him but i also i'm also i'm never surprised at what a corporation is capable of um in terms of like trying to erase like the contributions of someone that's worked there yeah yeah but that sucks dude it will be interesting yeah hopefully there's more you know the the article is one thing but that's like a single source but i'm sure during a trial we'll we'll actually learn more and right because it's frito-lay's thing it's like well like we love that you're like kind of like the vibey origin of it but like legally you're not but you can have
Starting point is 00:16:01 the vibes but you better shut the fuck up if you expect money from us don't say you invented it um but yeah did you i'm like did you did you see flaming hot i did not i forgot it came out but now i'm curious how they what they do here like what came out after movies stopped being a thing that anybody paid attention to yeah yeah yeah unfortunately unfortunately yeah yeah gotcha um unfortunately because fuck movies uh let's see the home depot 2024 halloween decor is upon us are we 6.8 weeks i was gonna just say we are 6.8 weeks officially 6.8 weeks which is good news if you're a millennial because with fourth of july just through 2.3 weeks behind us uh the six point and it's not even a fucking day man like six point it's not even an actual number of days yeah keep going back that food and wine article is still there when it has not been edited yeah no clarity the person is still ducking me on the dms
Starting point is 00:17:05 but some of these i gotta say man like you got you got that big reaper one don't you in your front yard i got uh the big witch oh which okay similar technology see on here a similar deal not a full 12 feet i think probably closer like 10 um and she appears to be hovering so it's basically what they've got going with this uh led levitating reaper yeah similar similar physics involved here engineering yeah yeah exactly they got a lot i mean look i guess the 12 footer 12 foot scales are the big thing. Now they got accessories. So you could put a wig on there or looks like shoes with spats on them because they're a dandy from the 20s or some shit. It's a black braided wig, a beaded necklace, a skull person shoes, all waterproof.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So you don't have to worry about them getting ruined when it rains. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. Good. proof so you don't have to worry about them getting ruined when it rains oh yeah yeah yeah good good good uh wait are you are you looking to augment your halloween display i don't know
Starting point is 00:18:11 i mean because your neighborhood's popping and i know you had that one house like it looked like a full-on butcher scene for like carcasses were being like torn apart on the lawn beheaded children um on the on their like halloween tree it just stopped my kids dead in their tracks there's like mouth agape um i think i'm gonna just stick with the witch because we did we changed our yard to be like drought tolerant so there's like more right plants and stuff that it would get in the way. So I think we're just going to stick Witch on this one. I'm going to hold for a year. But there's nothing on here that really
Starting point is 00:18:51 makes me... Other than the original 12-foot Skelly, which is a classic. That is the one that I would go in for. What about a 12-footin shkreli skelly martin shkreli skelly yeah and he's holding the wu-tang unreleased wu-tang album now you're
Starting point is 00:19:11 talking my language yeah you're trying to think a shkreli skelly yeah shkreli skells i'm trying to think of what would take me ah man man. There's a deemed a six foot animated Dean deathologist. I just, I'm a little disappointed that they are not getting bigger and bigger. I think they must've like, it might, it must be like that 200 milligrams of caffeine thing where they're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:41 no, we tested after this. Like you start getting deaths. Yeah. it doesn't make sense yeah don't go don't go 14 feet yeah like 14 feet and like people start getting trapped under it the dean deathologist is really i'm sorry for lack of a better word fucking dumb yeah in my opinion it looks like a like he's like a barkeep from the 19th century barkeep oh right okay that makes sense it's either akeep from the 19th century barkeep oh right okay that makes
Starting point is 00:20:06 sense it's either a person from the 19th century or a hipster yeah yeah i mean got the garter armband on you got a nice pringles man mustache you're pouring drinks all right but that also seems like what's going on with the pigtails girl with the purse and the spat shoes. It feels like it's either back in time or kind of hipster weird thing. But I'm just like, why are we doing that? We're rocking saddle shoes, man. Stride right saddle shoes. Like in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah. They're back. But hey, look, zike gang let us know what's is there anything is there a new hyped thing i feel like yeah i first i was like oh man new scales and i'm like man this is it yeah i mean so they do have a 12 foot inferno pumpkin skeleton with a light up inferno pumpkin head um that's up there and then they have they are trying to fly a little bit closer to the sun with the 12 and a half foot inferno deadwood skeleton um where the skeleton looks like it's made of wood um and then like has like a fire glowing in its rib cage i was hoping it would
Starting point is 00:21:21 say like loose lines of al swearingen from redwood yeah what's like horribly like yeah turn of the century racist stuff but no it's the regular skeleton and because you can hear your racist stuff yeah you can hear your neighbor yeah hear your neighbor scream turn of the century racist stuff that's right in your local neighborhood and to quote george costanza john voight, John Voight has blamed propaganda for Angelina Jolie's decision to support Palestine.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Amazing cognitive dissonance going on here. She has been exposed to propaganda, he told. Not you. It is not I who is exposed to propaganda. It is simply she. She's been not. I who have been supposed to propaganda. It is. She,
Starting point is 00:22:06 she, uh, she's been influenced by antisemitic people. Angie has a connection to the UN and she's enjoyed speaking out for refugees, but these people are not refugees. Oh my God, dude, shut the fuck up. John Floyd is the UN.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Like, is he like that? Because that, that seems to be the, uh, standard claim, right? Is that the anti-semitic now right i mean depending on whose words you listen to and take that as serious and valid yes sure uh that could be it but i think yeah oh man these people are not refugees is so fucking on brand for someone like john voight i like he said he goes on quote angie i think she
Starting point is 00:22:46 hasn't been available to this information because in hollywood people don't share this kind of stuff they're way off they have no idea what's going on it's a bubble uh-huh she's the one who's in a bubble that but you're the you're the more you have the more worldly access to information as somebody who only gets their news from Fox News. Do you look at photos or images of terrible violence befalling children and you're like, Nah, Fox News would show it to me if it was important. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, it's a thing that a lot of people are, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:23:28 dealing with in this country is older people just getting more old. Older people being like, that ain't what's, that ain't real. That's essentially what everyone says. And I was like, okay, man, just shut up.
Starting point is 00:23:41 The stuff that everybody everywhere else in the world thinks, that ain't real. Nah, nah. You're in your little bubble with the rest of the world's population you're in this bubble called earth yes and while there are yes definitely bubble information spheres i think to to use that to attack uh your daughter who obviously you're you know have estranged from but like for trying to advocate for innocent people who are being displaced by a ethnic cleansing or genocidal campaign um it's something else john voight just just go just be just i wish he was just
Starting point is 00:24:17 pick a character that he was in a film and just be that forever yeah you know what i mean like be the guy from anaconda like don't ever break character that would be fun just be that forever yeah you know what i mean like be the guy from anaconda like don't ever break character that would be fun just do that yeah don't talk about politics just talk about how you were fucking bit by a snake all the time yeah and and watch people creepily uh on your point to your eye snakes don't eat people they don't okay one of my favorite miles gray impressions it's one of my yeah you haven't even seen the you guys that'll be the first video episode of the daily like i still have to get them to do it just yeah watch a side by side all right you're gonna love this scene you're gonna love this scene find a way to cram the phrase snakes don't eat people into uh they don't and the condas are the perfect killing machine i
Starting point is 00:25:06 can do that whole monologue anyway um john voight stick to a character just don't be a human talking out loud on this earth anymore thank you that's gonna do it for us on this tuesday afternoon we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Yep. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert
Starting point is 00:25:58 Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories
Starting point is 00:26:29 behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history.
Starting point is 00:26:52 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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