The Daily Zeitgeist - It’s As Bad As You Thought 05.04.22

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Starting point is 00:02:17 Well, what, what, like, today is... It's May 4th, Jack. Oh, f***. Yeah. Bro, I forgot. Happy birthday. Thanks. What was that?

Starting point is 00:02:28 What? May the 4th. May the 4th. Oh, yeah. You too, man. And also with you. Yeah, his mercy endures forever. And also with you.

Starting point is 00:02:41 His mercy endures forever. Yeah, George Lincoln. Handmade Tales line really hitting different these days my name is jack o'brien aka potatoes o'brien and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray yes miles gray the lord of lancashire aka hideo noho just uh you know having a front row seat to this shit show we call America. Hop in, folks. We got some talking to do.

Starting point is 00:03:10 Yup. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious and brilliant comedy writer and podcast host who you know from his podcast, Secretly Incredibly Fascinating, producing and hosting 150 episodes of something called the cracked podcast creating the bison emoji and from being a four-time jeopardy champion it's alex motherfucking what's up baby always great to be back thank you guys oh man yeah always great to have you good to see you you know we were telling our new producers becca and tricia before we started rolling just like but you know you're the like to avoid eye contact you know maybe turn off their

Starting point is 00:03:53 zoom cameras because this guy's like don rickles yeah don rickles coming through and he uh he comes in hot and takes no prisoners and then then you came in and we were like, it's the nicest person I've ever met. When your camera turned on in the zoom call, you're, you were already in that ear to ear grin. And I was like, damn it.

Starting point is 00:04:14 I have some mystery. You blew it, man. We had a bit going. It also, I was looking at my browser at just something funny. And I didn't know that when the zoom turned on, it would pop in front of my browser. Like, you're just suddenly, it's like diving off a high dive or something.

Starting point is 00:04:31 You're just suddenly in the meeting. It's great. Yeah, and I started roasting people. Yeah, they're crying now, but we warned them, and I feel like it was good for everyone. How's North CAC? I've moved. I'm in Brooklyn now. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 00:04:48 So Brooklyn, New York. Okay. New Yorkers in the building now. Okay. How long you been in New York now? I'm surprised you couldn't tell from my very Brooklyn aspect I have. But yeah, but here like seven months or so. Okay, cool, cool.

Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah. We went and saw cherry blossoms in the botanic garden this weekend. That's how it's going. That's good. Okay, nice. So y'all living on the fucking edge, it sounds like. Yes.

Starting point is 00:05:13 Red Lion. I've got blossoms. He is an accent that people have here. Got blossoms over here. Is that, yeah. Oh, shit. Is that how you, like there was just a Brooklyn guy there with cherry blossoms who was waving it over?

Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah. Or is a guy who manages a group of blossom impersonators? Mm-hmm. All right. Also a blossom thing. Everybody got those denim bucket hats with the front flipped up like that. Yeah, blossoms, yeah. What do you want?

Starting point is 00:05:43 Kind of timeless. Her style was kind of timeless. It's coming that. Yeah, Blossom's there. What do you want? Kind of timeless. Her style was kind of timeless. It's coming back. Yeah. I feel like it's always like on the verge of coming back and no matter when

Starting point is 00:05:52 you watch it, even if it's at a point where it's not back, it's, she still pulls it off. Oh, yeah. And I guarantee you, you go to like a semi-hit party

Starting point is 00:06:00 in LA or New York, there will be one person dressed like Blossom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. like blossom yeah yeah that's just yeah that's just part of the texture of like one of these parties it's like oh and there's that okay y'all lean into the 90s thing but doing it authentically we see yeah yeah totally all the parties i go to yep that's true i was just at a party um the other wednesday and yeah there's I had a party the other Wednesday, and yeah, that's people dressed.

Starting point is 00:06:29 I noticed how people dressed, and it was like that. Jack, these parties I go to, they got everything. Blossom impersonators, six, her best friend, six impersonators. Six impersonators? Yes, six impersonators. What the? Six, six impersonators, okay? This place has everything, and a guy who kind of looks like stefan or kell also he's oh i was saying you were doing a good stefan impression there isn't that the bill hater character yeah i know that's the oh you saw it down you picked it up

Starting point is 00:06:57 uh anyways alex we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. Yeah. I mean, this happened two nights ago, but the leaked road decision, we're going to just be processing that. We are recording this the day after it was leaked and still processing it. I don't know. It feels like it's, you know, as bad as angry we thought i'm pretty pissed off and so we're going to talk about that we'll talk about some mutual aid resources and we'll ask

Starting point is 00:07:34 the important question do oscar winners really live longer than losers not just losers but people who don't win an oscar oh gotcha which basically Which, basically, I think we can admit that, like, all of us who have not won an Oscar are fucking losers. Just period. Right? Yeah, I won a useless gold statue. That's the only... That doesn't mean anything anymore?

Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah. Like, we all have an empty space on a shelf that's that size. Yeah. And we just look at it sadly. I have a question. For, you know, for you know for you guys did you ever in your mind think one day i might get an oscar i don't know i might i might be i might fuck around and be involved with something that gets me an oscar still still

Starting point is 00:08:15 leaving the door open miles yeah yeah yeah i think everyone needs to have that just in their in their heart you know i did i did high school theater and i feel like that was just an immediate go-to for adults talking to me and it probably happens to everyone whoever does high school theater it's like oh you got a part in one play one time next stop the oscars and like they don't don't do that adults you don't know that's not really how it works the next stop is probably 14 years of soul crushing community black box theater. That's how, that's what makes you stronger and ready for the big stage. But yeah,

Starting point is 00:08:50 the, I do, I feel, I don't know. I guess we'll talk about it, but I just feel like the, the whole mentality around Oscars being like, well,

Starting point is 00:09:00 that's the ultimate, that's the thing. You could either win an Oscar or become president. Those are the main things in America. It's probably unhealthy, especially given. It's go to Harvard, get an Oscar, or be the president. I feel like those are the three things, no matter you hear some version of that. Or all three Obama.

Starting point is 00:09:21 Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? Has he won an Oscar? I feel like. who gives a shit sorry who gives a shit I've moved I'm I'm in a different I'm in a different wavelength but you know trust in progress I do like the idea of any American president trying to play a different character in a movie it's just so distracting right right like they're they're so burned into your head they can't do it no matter

Starting point is 00:09:51 how a reverse reagan where somebody like wins the presidency and then is like i actually am launching a acting career you're like wait what where i'll be in beat movies opposite a chimp hold on you want to be one of the most powerful people on the planet to launch a fucking, to leverage a Paramount Plus streaming show? Yes. I mean. Yeah, yeah. Like, if you offer that to Trump right now, I bet he would take it. Like, if you were just like, actually, we think you might be one of our great actors and entertainers.

Starting point is 00:10:23 You don't have to put up with this presidency shit anymore yeah you don't have to pretend to like the people that voted for you i think he would he would be in swap him out in that fucking stallone thing about the you know the mobster who's got to rebuild an empire be like this is perfect for you man yeah this is one of these really cool productions we have these new cameras that are actually built into a lot of people's glasses and eyeballs so that acting can be really natural so don't please don't you know be dissuaded by the lack of production infrastructure this is a tv show now go say your lines in this dark room i think it's a pretty interesting outside of the box solution to the fact that he could probably has over 50 chance of being the next president again is just launch a movie career and put him in movies that are all like scheduled to come out that year

Starting point is 00:11:14 so he's like i just have a really busy promotion campaign and then he doesn't run and then we all just don't go see his movies and hollywood has done something good for once perfect all right perfect yeah no need to talk about anything else do we need to do the news today i think we're good everything intersects with that idea so we don't need to talk about anything if we do that then everything else is off okay all right before we get to any of that shit alex we do like to ask our, what is something from your search history? So I, and I cheated a little bit because my first several are all related to this Supreme Court case and abortion and everything else. But like the first one before that is the name Felicet. Because I learned about this to make my podcast, but it's the only cat that has ever been sent to space.

Starting point is 00:12:11 It was sent by the french space program in 1963 they sent a cat into space for like 15 minutes and her name was felice france is true to the brand they are like uh what can we do what can we do with this when did they send her 1963 yeah and it was it was when like it was right after the russians sent a dog and the u.s was sending primates and so we were still figuring out like how mammals react to space and so the french sent rats and then they sent a cat rats then cats okay and did they did the cat did we find out how how it? Did it come back? Was it a celebrity? It's good and bad. The cat came back successfully, and then they did surgery on the cat to study it, and the cat died of the surgery. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:12:58 Sorry. Sorry. That's a bummer. But it's fun that a cute tuxedo cat went to space. Hey, early history is all about just being like, I don't know, open it up and see what's inside. Yeah. All right. I guess that's the information you had back then.

Starting point is 00:13:13 So you this is part of adding to that data set. They kept ashing inside the cat because the surgeons were smoking the whole time, presumably. And that that didn't help with the scientific process. Yeah, died of an infection caused by stray beret felt that fell into the operating wound. Right. A team of surgeons and one accordion player worked around the clock to try to save it. Around the clock. What is something you think is overrated?

Starting point is 00:13:43 I know this has come up, but the idea that COVID is over. think is overrated? I know this has come up, but the idea that COVID is over, it's overrated. I got it a little over a month ago and it was not fun. And a lot of times I would tell people close to me like, hey, I have COVID. And they would be like, me too.

Starting point is 00:13:57 Like, it's just going on. Me too, but we don't say shit. It's over. So just everybody be careful. I know that's like dark news, but be careful. No, it's over so so just everybody be careful i know that's like dark news but be careful no it's not i think it's i think it's important that people don't can acknowledge that there very much still is the possibility of getting infected with covid that that has not changed at all it's the only thing is like these sort of politician and like media informed attitudes that we're seeing that's like, yeah, man, look, now that everything's over, you're like for fucking who? Like Her Majesty had it a couple of weeks ago.

Starting point is 00:14:33 I know so many people, too, that I'm like, I'm I'm not like my anecdotal data sets of knowing if infections are up or down or not changing. So I think that's for sure. It's pretty spot on. Yeah, but it's not on the news anymore. It's not. Yeah. It's just on social media. We find out from people. I think because to really, this is the thing, to talk about it, you have to acknowledge the humanity of the pandemic. And if you do that, then you're inevitably going to start talking about inequality again and wages and who's able to whether not working or lockdowns happening or who works in a place where the fucking rules are so lax that it's just a you know an infection vector from hell they and they

Starting point is 00:15:19 don't want to do that because look what happened like it it we we got the thing where people were leaving jobs like all the wages are going up and that's why we got inflation we're like no asshole we're getting your greedy greedy faced version of what you think is going on yeah doesn't it but the fact that the corporations that drove a lot of the inflation had record profits, nothing, nothing to see there. Just, it was natural, invisible hand shit. And don't pay attention to the invisible hand because it's invisible.

Starting point is 00:15:56 You can't see it and it works perfectly every time. So just trust it. Yeah. And I mean, think of how much we've, we've by again, when you don't have a pandemic now, nobody's a hero, right? That's the other thing too. You don't have to acknowledge anyone's when you don't have a pandemic now, nobody's a hero, right?

Starting point is 00:16:05 That's the other thing too. You don't have to acknowledge anyone's sacrifice if there's not a pandemic. So it's very convenient to completely just take all that shit out of the discourse because that's not what we're talking about anymore. We're talking about that. It's over. And if people get it, it's like,

Starting point is 00:16:20 well, you know, you should wear a mask or whatever. Everyone's going to get it. Like, who cares? And like, yeah, maybe we're still learning about long covet i don't know but also we don't have money for the pandemic response like all of it looks not great still and as i mentioned yesterday

Starting point is 00:16:34 i do bribe the doctors when i take a covet test to just make sure that it comes back negative so i still haven't had it but i yeah you know like that's that's just what it's just my strategy yeah i remember that yeah when you showed you're like yeah i just got my covid test and i was like what is this it says negative plus i was like yeah that's how negative i was it's negative new streaming service Never even seen some shit like this. I'm like, Jack, I don't know how this helps. It means I'm extra negative. All right.

Starting point is 00:17:12 What is something you think is underrated? Yeah, this one is just cool. Willie Nelson. Willie Nelson is doing great. He turned 89 last week and he put out a new album on his birthday, and it's great. It's called A Beautiful Life. It's very good. And he's just generally always been on the right side of most things, as far as I know.

Starting point is 00:17:33 He's great. Yeah. Really into it. He is one of the musicians that my parents listen to all the time that still holds up for me. all the time that still holds up for me. And there's a lot that probably the fact that my parents listen to them all the time make me associate with being nerds like Billy Joel. Maybe that's not fair. And Anita Baker at the time, I did not give a fair shake because I was just like,

Starting point is 00:18:00 come on, this is so slow. Put on Axl Rose. He will be cool forever. And that wasn't the case. But Willie Nelson, I always liked his voice even back then. And he stays cool. What a voice. He stays cool, huh?

Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah. And he spoke to a joint in the White House. He did, yeah, with Jimmy Carter's son. It was great. So that's fun. And I miss country music completely when I was a kid. Like, I've only started getting into it in the last couple of years. So I have no associations with it, really.

Starting point is 00:18:32 I'm just, like, fresh. And it feels great. He's very cool. He has, like, the way he sings, he'll do interesting phrasing, kind of like Sinatra, if that helps people on board. I don't know. He's great. Yeah, yeah. Really good.

Starting point is 00:18:43 I used to, as a kid kid I used to think him and George Carlin were the same person oh that's when I was really young yeah because I was like these are white guys with long hair yeah and like white beards and like yeah and I was again this was me not even hearing a single like my visual thing was like oh he's wearing a headband today oh he's not right and then I'm like as i got older i'm like they are not the same person at fucking all but i remember that very early on i was confused when i saw the two of them yeah they have kind of the same head shape like kind of a square head to me yeah and i'm kind of the same facial hair and i think it's just a little bit of gleaming long hair in the back that

Starting point is 00:19:19 was enough to say as a four-year-old be like and that is the same person and i know everything about popular culture yeah i mean willie nelson's hair i always associate with like being in the uh pigtail braids yeah yeah the fact that he was able to pull that off and still just be a complete icon is pretty cool 89 though yeah he got texas on board with that. The state of Texas. Think about it. You know? They don't change fast, but they did for him. Yeah. They're like, I guess we're doing this now. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:54 Like with, yeah. Reminds me of like, this is a very specific reference, but Jock Peterson on the Braves was wearing like pearls. Oh, yeah. When he plays baseball. And I was like, look at all these Braves fans and men coming out with their pearls on i'm like okay the power of sports there you go it's okay because he does it yeah him straight him hit home run i'm now where pearl also man he should he should push it like this year when he's in the postseason he should just like have more accessories just keep accessorizing until the breaking point right so like every man in georgia is weighed down by an insurmountable

Starting point is 00:20:32 amount of jewelry i've been thinking a lot about the carter white house i think we talked about it a little bit on yesterday's episode which i have mostly blacked out but the um we can't go back we can't go back the like the fact that the new york times is addressing you know centrist democrat in power as being like wow there's just a mood issue that nobody can quite pinpoint. And the fact that that was followed by just 12 years of hardcore Republicanism in the mainstream worries me a little bit. That we're back at that point where they're like, I don't know, we're out of answers here, folks.

Starting point is 00:21:19 I guess we turn it over to them. Hot potato, there you go. Fuck that up. Here, take it. And I feel like that whole thing is sort of like the response to inflation going up or something else. Like people are like, oh, I guess this is just how people feel. And I don't know. Look at the context, man. Like he's exclusively been president during a global pandemic.

Starting point is 00:21:42 Like that'll impact people's mood a little. That's not his fault necessarily. Yeah. And I think the other part just sort of like, what could it be? Do we, we point at the little breadcrumbs that fell out of his jacket pocket that were legislative wins and hope that's enough? Or do we dangle a bunch of existential threats in front of them to get them to fucking vote? And it looks like the ladder right now yeah so well i guess we'll be talking about that in a moment yeah so let's take a break gird yourself and we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series,

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Starting point is 00:26:30 And we're back. And on Monday night, two nights ago, Politico published a leaked Roe decision that suggests that the Supreme Court is about to overturn Roe v. Wade. And the opinion really lays the foundation for a white Christian theocracy where abortion, contraception, consensual sex acts are all able to be policed at a national level and banned at a national level. able to be policed at a national level and like banned at a national level.

Starting point is 00:27:06 And yeah, it's kind of, it's as bad as we thought, I think is kind of, and, and it's infuriating that we're at this place and people are losing the right to have autonomy over their own, own body. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:23 I mean, reading like just parts of that opinion from alito like he's referencing this guy sir matthew hale that a lot of people have pointed out is a english jurist from the 17th century whose fucking musings like laid the foundation for people to normalize things like marital rape and like he was regularly like, oh, these people, these women are witches and need to be burned. He's taking that guy's ideology and sort of using that to underline or bolster his, you know, his argument in terms of overturning Roe. And yeah, it's true that all of this, it's not just abortion that's at stake. There are many things they've articulated that they want to go after. And of course, this all goes hand in hand with your privacy, because now, again, the government will be, at the momentum it's going, if we're cutting off contraception, they're knowing when you're having sex and how you're having sex with who you're having sex. That's now part of what the government needs to look out for and respond to. And it's,

Starting point is 00:28:29 it's so fucking frightening to look at things we thought were rights. And in the, you know, in the middle of the night, a political leak. And then you're saying, Oh, Hey,

Starting point is 00:28:40 we're in the dark ages again. Right. The, yeah. And like my head spins in so many ways because i'm like what's the response i think that's the thing that i'm like really bracing myself for is like what is the terrible completely unaware can't read the room response going to be from democrats like in terms of what they think how they either they're either going to leverage this as a way to motivate people to vote without actually looking at the the violence that is in front of people

Starting point is 00:29:11 and say like this is why you got to vote we're already hearing that this is why you got to vote i think that was biden's first statement was yeah this is this is on the voters to elect more pro-choice then what the fuck do y'all do right right what do y'all do if this if the if if the fucking reproductive rights are stripped away and you say yeah y'all gotta do something about that then what the why do we need you then this goes back to the fact that this the government is completely incapable of protecting people. Right. Absolutely incapable and unwilling. That's how this system is built.

Starting point is 00:29:52 It's not built to protect anybody except for the wealthiest people. And so I don't know how many times we have to go through this example of like, oh, yeah, man, you got the right to vote. I don't know. Fuck it. Maybe you don't. Hey, man, we need to do something about, you know, police violence. Nah, maybe not. Oh, we got to do something about all these transphobic bills. Nah, I don't know, man. Figure it out on your own. Hey, man, we need to do something about police violence. Nah, maybe not. Oh, we got to do something about all these transphobic bills. Nah, I don't know, man. Figure it out on your own.

Starting point is 00:30:10 So we're left in a position like your house is on fire, you call the fucking firefighters, and then when they show up, they're like, yeah, man, we got some shit in the truck. You can handle that, man, because that's not what we do. Huh? That's the feeling I think a lot of people have right now

Starting point is 00:30:27 absolutely yeah like i i see them saying stuff like be sure to vote and i'm like okay like what is do you do you have a job you do because like if this is my job can you edit my podcast and pick up my groceries and like right sweep and like the things i have to do here like please i'll go lean on joe mansion for you if you need that right because i don't know what the fuck y'all are doing like hey joe no you're not feeling it all right okay i'll see you later like where's the leadership where that's where you hear all like with all these other presidents you hear about these monumental moments and all the fucking shit that had to happen behind the scenes to like get some semblance of civil rights or whatever i feel like none of that shit is happening the fact that biden felt comfortable coming out and

Starting point is 00:31:11 saying we need to vote like and elect officials like it is so like i can't believe that that is not a point that people are making more to the point that he feels like ashamed to say some shit like that, because the really insidious thing is that this is their model is having the Republicans do shit that like threatens our ability to live in a free society. And then you scare people into voting because if their model was to actually look out for the people as opposed to you know the corporate interests that kind of get them elected they would be doing more proactive things but it's like it makes

Starting point is 00:31:53 sense from a purely like cynical and power dynamics perspective for them to sit back let them do some shit that like is fundamentally like turning america into an authoritarian like society and then just be the only alternate like that that seems to be their model at this point is like being the other guy yeah while the country yo-yos back and forth between a straight-up authoritarian hate group that comes to power over half the time and then the ineffectual Democrats who can whose continued existence is based on like selling itself as the other guys without doing anything. the psychotically bad alternative and the bad alternative and like that's the bad alternative obviously benefits from that and like how are we in a position where they feel like what he said in his statement is basically yep so you better vote like that so our system is where you gotta vote yeah our system our plan is working this is our strategy to scare you into voting for us even though we don't do shit we just don't

Starting point is 00:33:14 put your safety and freedom at risk yeah and the and and also that politico stuff like they have the whole first draft or whatever drafted as of what alito wrote in you know wherever he writes these things and there was really shocking stuff in it if you look at it like i hope democrats really go after everything in it like at one point he compared he uses language that compares the roe decision to plessy versus ferguson that upheld segregation. And he compares it to Korematsu that upheld interning Japanese Americans in World War II. Like, there's no, they went all the way. There's no thing to wait for that they're going to do next

Starting point is 00:33:55 that's awful other than tearing down more things. Like, Democrats can go ahead. They have the green light to fight. Like, go for it. But they're, and they're not, you know? That's the fucked up part because we've seen we've seen them get we've seen i mean this is the thing i'm wondering when a plurality of american people actually understand that these people are not going to do shit

Starting point is 00:34:17 they're going to fuck in you're going to get a fucking text in like six hours with nancy pelosi's face on it being like i need 14 bucks where the fuck you at abortion rights are at risk man fuck you come out your fucking pockets and do something you're not doing shit all you do is posture and then you keep presenting this party merely as a pause button on fascism you're not you're not rewinding shit you're not taking us forward you just hit pause that's all you fucking do. Republicans, they're like fascism, fascism. Let's fucking go. Autocracy. We on this. Then the Democrats come in like, don't you want to hit pause on this?

Starting point is 00:34:54 We're here and we're here to hit pause on it. Don't expect us to right the wrongs or any fucking anything to do with that, because at the end of the day, they're still they're a branch off the same fucking tree as Republicans. They're just grow on the left side of the fucking tree. And that tree drinks water directly from corporations and moneyed interests who are the people that these these politicians are beholden to. They're not beholden to the voters. If they were when we're out there in the streets being like, man, fuck this. They would be like, oh shit,

Starting point is 00:35:31 these people vote me in or out rather than, no, there's actually these very wealthy people who vote me in or out based on the number of fucking media ad buys they do, the fucking oppo research they might do on me or maybe on someone who's trying to primary me or someone who's an opponent. There's so many other dynamics there that it's these people don't go into fucking service thinking how am i going to help my constituents now there are people who are you know a little bit more have their shit together but that's they're in such a minority that we're all we're only going to see these people capitulate over and over to the like not the people and i don't know how many times we have to keep saying that and say if it's not them then who is it going to be right because i think it's i think it's us because it's damn sure not them that's helping us out right yeah i mean and jacob and the article

Starting point is 00:36:16 about this they were like even if a massive popular uprising on this issue allows democrats to hold on to the senate unless they abolish the filibuster rule a law protecting abortion access has no chance what can they promise us tomorrow that they can't deliver today right that's what can they what are they dangling they're in power like well yeah we're we're gonna you know so somehow mansion's gonna be cool and there's gonna be like 10 10 more votes like it's it's not a feasible solution at this point and with these like mainly mainstream democrats because there are people like justice democrats and other ones who are doing well but with the mainstream democrats mainly saying hey make sure to. Like we, Obama ran on codifying Roe as law and we elected him twice. And Biden in the primaries said he would codify Roe as law.

Starting point is 00:37:10 And we elected him by 7 million votes. Like they're pointing to the one thing that is kind of going okay. Like the voting that Cubans are doing against that being repressed and in spite of other things is like one of the few parts that we're doing a good job of like it's it's very weird to be like that's the solution when it's all the other structural things that need fixing i mean i and i think a lot of people who begrudgingly vote for democrats really are trying we're at a crossroads like we can't keep getting played like this because people die yeah right all the time because of them with their fucking duplicity. And this is a it's it.

Starting point is 00:37:53 I'm not sure what it's going to take, but it's hard to believe that the Democrats could deliver a thing. I know they all got together outside the steps of the Capitol and they're like, Oh, you, this is Chuck Schumer's like, you, you awoken the giant the fuck in doing with what? Because Kristen, Kristen sent him already said she's, she wants to respect the filibuster. Right?

Starting point is 00:38:14 So there, there, that goes. So now what? And stop dangling bullshit in front of people, because this is, I think this is the really, I,

Starting point is 00:38:23 I, it's like every crisis we have shit gets realer for different segments of america and this is a very broad one now some people will know what fucking time it is other people can continue to live live in their comfort because let's be real this is really going to affect poor poor people uh especially poor women of color and if this was anything about being pro-life or whatever you'd actually talk about the mortality of people giving birth right and how you what happens there that people are more likely to die uh in childbirth than someone who's getting an abortion like if you're just putting it side by side and other demographic uh factors weren't but again because that's not what this is about it's just all about creating the most amount of cruelty to bring in this fucking Christian ethno state that they love.

Starting point is 00:39:10 And we're meant to be like, okay, well, what do we do? And part of me is looking at it. I'm like, you know, we're already living in a country where the conservatives control everything. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So what's the fucking difference? Right.

Starting point is 00:39:28 Honestly, the speaker's different and then you're not doing shit just so you can go to the senate and fucking die and not we're not passing anything they really have a problem here that they have to be able to articulate to say this is how it's going to be different but i don't think they can because this is all structurally just part of how politics work in the united states and there's there has to be so much substantive change like especially around money and politics before you can even begin to have some kind of philosophical shift on how policy's made that it's for me i'm like you know what i'd rather not put all my energy into being angry at these fucking clowns who do the same shit every time. And I'm like, what the fuck? The clowns clowned it up again.

Starting point is 00:40:06 And I'd rather put my energy in it. Like, you know what? How the fuck do we figure this out for each other? Because I'm tired of leaning on them. I'm, I'm much more interested in how come as communities we can look out for each other because at least those people, I feel more beholden to my neighbor or someone in my community than some abstraction in a suit talking to me with a D next to their name in parentheses on a TV screen.

Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah. Right. The sentiment that like people I've heard people, you know, obviously this is like truly horrifying and I, I don't begrudge anyone being outraged and surprised by this, but like the, the idea that like the the idea that a bunch of old

Starting point is 00:40:48 religious extremists can like take away the rights of a majority of people to bodily autonomy like we live in a society with six times the imprisonment rate of black people than prohibition era South Africa. Like we are living in an unjust society that abuses the rights and bodies and destroys the lives of the poor in order to conserve like very weird, very white supremacist, very like religious extremist values. This is not new. And that is our society. And so, I don't know. I feel like that can't be surprising to us anymore. This is a police state that governs at the whims of a very few, very wealthy people, basically. Yeah, especially with the Supreme Court as an institution, it needs to either be like fully reformed or abolished or something else. We kind of have nine popes or kings or something. Right. And just redo the whole government and the whole legal system anytime they want to. And in particular, if people want history on it, there's a great book by

Starting point is 00:42:09 Ian Millhiser. It's called Injustices. And the basic argument is that the Supreme Court has only done anything for people for like 25 years, the Warren courts and the Burger courts in the 60s and 70s, which, and one of the things they did was the Roe decision. But other than that, it's mostly made life worse for humans in the country and better for corporations and government power. That's pretty much all it's done across its whole history. And then like, there's a blip where they did Brown versus Board and they did Roe and they did the things we're excited about, but that's a real outlier historically. board and they did row and they did the things we're excited about but that's a real outlier historically yeah i mean i i feel like we we don't need a a separate governmental wing to do things for corporations they they already got off the tower i think we're i think we're

Starting point is 00:42:57 covered there it's like marvel movies enough you know plenty we've seen it yeah yeah i i just feel like more you know we have to be real about what congress and a president can deliver when their interests have nothing to do with what normal working people non-wealthy people like yeah when it's completely disconnected from that reality because they what we're like what we experience is like fuck it like as if congress is trying to do remote surgery like on the planet from three planets away like on one person like that's how many layers removed they are from the thing they're working on yeah and it won't it it shows more and more in the absurdity of it only becomes clear and clear. And I think and I I get why people feel so angst ridden, why the vibes are bad, because we're in a situation where we're like, hold the fuck up. Like, I thought the what this this isn't doing shit at all.

Starting point is 00:44:02 And we're and I think we're just not at a point where more like it's normal to articulate. This is fucking broken. And it, and it's not as it is, it's not going to work without a dramatic shift. And because it requires such a dramatic shift, the powers that be are not able to articulate that they're too entrenched in

Starting point is 00:44:22 it to be able to say, we're the fucking problem so it's really incumbent again on us to figure out what the fuck we need to do as communities as people collectively to be able to ensure the kinds of safeties and outcomes that we believe we are owed as people and i'm like there is a lot that the federal government can do but on a certain level we have to begin to find a way where we can say look no matter what's happening there like we can find a way to make this work for each other and i'm much more interested in those kinds of solutions than

Starting point is 00:44:53 me being like you know let's go to steve karnacki at the fucking electoral map and see where the vote counts come in right that's all spectacle yeah and it's and and every time we get all caught up in that shit, people are losing their lives to the police, to bigoted, homophobic people, to having to find some other alternative to reproductive care. And right. Yeah, it's it's it's just it's demoralizing, you know, to say like this is the country that we live in. It's demoralizing by by design, I think. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So speaking of like alternatives for producers, Becca and Tricia put together a list of various, you know, mutual aid organizations that we're going to put in the footnotes. There's also a point I'm seeing made a lot of places that's also in their research is just the medical improvements of basically medication abortions by mail for people who aren't able to travel or take off work. You know, home abortions are now very safe and also safe people who need abortions from going to a clinic facing protesters. So there are organizations like Plan C, Hey Jane, Abortion on Demand that can offer more information about that,

Starting point is 00:46:16 and we'll link off to that as well. And then there's a list of funds in each of the 26 states that are most likely to enact a ban on abortion. There's mutual aid funds in states where access to abortion is most at risk. And then figure out where there are protests near you. There's one being organized at the Supreme Court. There's also Foley Square in Manhattan, the Texas Capitol, U.S. Courthouse in L.A., many other towns and cities. So look up what's happening near you. And in addition to being able to show up and show your support physically, you might meet people who are also trying to figure out what the fuck we do from here. But we'll have more of that in the footnotes and also in trending episodes.

Starting point is 00:47:04 But yeah, I think public outcry is the one thing we have right now this is a draft i don't know maybe someone one justice decides to go the other way but i'm not counting i don't know i mean i'm i don't know i'm i'm very pessimistic at the moment just because i'm so fucking tired of the duplicity and nonsense that we're having to deal with when every single person is just trying to fucking live. But, you know, I think this decision was probably like a month away from actually becoming public. Yeah. I recently heard someone talk about how hope is underrated and an important thing. I think it can also be a dangerous thing if it's fueled by just being disconnected from the realities of what people are living through around you and what your day-to-day life is actually

Starting point is 00:47:58 being funded at the expense of. If you're not in touch with reality, then hope is actually bullshit and very dangerous. So, yeah. Yeah. And when we're taping this, I think there's no information about how the draft got out or who leaked it. And there's a bunch of claims about it being one side or the other side trying to do something. But either way, it just mainly seems designed to mess with all of us. It's trying to put something but either way like it just mainly seems designed to mess with all of us like it's trying to put some kind of german people's heads like if you do the right post or sign you'll you'll change amy coney barrett's heart like no that's not that's not part of your purview just like take care of yourself and and do what miles was

Starting point is 00:48:41 describing especially with like you know finding people around you who are working on the right thing right connect to other people who give a fuck yeah yeah bma is what can happen when you find a bunch of like people who have a you know a good spirit and want to look like want to do something good yeah i think that's the most hopeful thing is to identify those people be there for people because this is a very difficult moment to be there for people and just, you know, support each other in the moment. Because, yeah, this is this is this is a really grim moment. And to your point, like, I don't know who leaked it. I don't know if that's the DNC's type thing where they're like, oh, man, they fuck it.

Starting point is 00:49:18 They need to this is going to help. They need to know about this, you know, type shit. Right. Which feels very cynical. And I'm like, I don't know, the way they're talking about which feels very cynical and i'm like i don't know the way they're talking about it feels like they knew this i was gonna happen like maybe this will fucking help out the poll numbers which is so fucked up or whatever and then on the which is really interesting i do want to touch on how the conservative media was touching on it they were so

Starting point is 00:49:40 fucking enraged that it was leaked their rights so violated yeah yeah right who who knew who knew because their little fascist gender reveal didn't happen the way they wanted it to because i'm sure they wanted that pins and needles moment with people on the steps of the capital and then they ring the bell and i was like yay we fucking rolled back time right but on fox you have people like ari fleischer who was saying shit like this is i'm just gonna i i honestly i'm just gonna play these words because this i think this is a little bit instructive into how fox news and conservative media is also trying to get their viewers in line with what's happened because let's keep in mind only 30% of Americans had said they wanted Roe overturned. What really troubles me, not about the ruling itself, if that's the ruling itself, I accept and respect that ruling. But the leader, as a man, make no mistake, Sean,

Starting point is 00:50:36 this is an insurrection against the Supreme Court. I've already seen people on the left celebrating this leaker, calling him brave, trying to throw a Hail Mary to stop the ruling from being issued. Who at the Supreme Court will trust each other now if they know that their drafts are going to be leaked, just like everything else in Washington? Oh, who think who gives couldn't stop himself from cragging a smile if that's the ruling. I was so fucking happy. And this is Mike Huckabee also going along with this same trope. One step further. This is an insurrection, not by some guy from some state who got hot under the who has a duty under his particular job and employment to keep his mouth shut.

Starting point is 00:51:31 OK, so, you know, the outrage machine is fired up because if you no one's talking about the substance of the decision. Well, if that's their decision, I accept it. Well, right, because to go go there i don't think they they don't want their viewers to begin a thought experiment about what their own views are on abortion because they're like look you're you here you're on the same team now the the way to think about this is not all the reproductive rights that are being rolled back and eventually people who just want to have you know or any form of birth control it's about they did an insurrection to the supreme court and that shit's so fucking weak i'm like i'm like bro this is all swinging

Starting point is 00:52:12 that's some bullshit over here yeah but it's there they they were just waiting for the right moment to do the mirroring thing they do where they take the word that is being used to describe what they're actually doing and apply it to something that is actually a good thing to just kind of make us... Yeah, but the nuance is too much for the Fox viewer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what they're doing, but it's not good. It's easy to just be like, there's a freaking invasion of immigrants, and then show people at the board.

Starting point is 00:52:44 It's not this is like stupid that's someone emailed a document that there's no law like even if the you know uh chief justice roberts like there's gonna be an investigation they said unless there's real hacking or criminal activity that they can't arrest anybody but it's way worse that this person has a job and did bad job than somebody who got a little hot under a collar and tried to uh overthrow the government with guns yeah beat the shit out of a capital police officer with a flagpole i don't know but that's like the thing i i feel like sometimes i am dismissive of fox News and like Fox News viewers as you know that this is dumb that like they're doubling their mirroring like that shit is very effective. Like them just being like this.

Starting point is 00:53:34 Now we say insurrection and like they are learning like they pull the shit from Putin. It is how to lie on the internet and they are good at it and it's like there's not a counterpoint on the side of good and it they're just beating the shit out of the truth constantly on a day-to-day basis and they're very good at it and like i feel like the talking point of like look at these idiots is probably dangerous at this point because they're winning. They're winning and they're they're very good. the very few at the cost of the many yeah and because the republicans end game is actually more in line with that that's why they're doing a better job is because they're not fighting the current of of capitalism like and the problem is democrats pretend to so they don't get anything done right and they're but even though they're we're still playing in the same sandbox, though, where being a dickhead wins.

Starting point is 00:54:48 And again, I think it's just they're going to win if this is always going to be the venue for trying to legislate or adjudicate anything that is, you know, has a tangible effect on people's quality of life. It's just not going to work because the democrats or do they suddenly be like you know what we've become socialists right nope yeah that ain't happening that's not happening so yeah so how i mean that's why i'm like i i can't there's no way i can expect them to do anything that's corrective and i can't expect republic like republicans will keep doing because they're they're operating in a system that actually that's it's built to do that so yeah that's why they're winning because that's what the whole thing is yeah yeah this is like a that current analogy is so right on like this is a 50 year current that republicans have been fomenting and swimming with

Starting point is 00:55:44 especially specifically on abortion. Like, they've been holding a March for Life in Washington, D.C. every year. They've been, like, trying to make this happen. And they, like, today and then eventually when this draft becomes a thing, like, they got everything they've wanted for 50 years. And they're using a leaker to say, we are the victims today. and they're using a leaker to say, we are the victims today. We have been oppressed by this devious person who we're just going to decide is on the left,

Starting point is 00:56:10 even though there's absolutely no evidence of that. Yeah. Like we have been struck a cruel blow along the lines of, what's that word? Insurrection. Let's go with that. There's Santa. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:20 Great. Cool. You ruined the surprise. Oh! You blew it! I took the. Cool. You ruined the surprise. That's essentially it. You blew it. I took the ice cream cake out of the fridge. I can't put it back.

Starting point is 00:56:32 It doesn't get right when you put it back. It doesn't work. Yeah. Also, they have a good beard consultant, whoever's doing the beard work for them, because Mike Huckabee looks better with a beard. So that's another advantage they have. He looks like a dude who would lie that he's a Jedi. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? He's like, I'm a beard. That's another advantage they have. He looks like a dude who would lie that he's a Jedi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm a Jedi. I'm like, bro, get the

Starting point is 00:56:49 fuck away from me. He reached out to Cruz as a beard guy. It's powerful stuff. Everybody tell Mike, may the 4th be with you. Throw one of those to him. That's today. That's right. May the 4th be with you as well, brother.

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Starting point is 01:01:45 confusing because there's also there's also a version of the number set that includes people who are nominated but didn't win and when you combine all of them together the oscar winners outlive them by four years and presumably meryl streep will outlive my grandchildren and then glenn close should already be dead. What, she lose like eight fucking times? So around five years longer than those who missed out, the study found no official reason for this except that winners may, quote, follow the ideals of a prudent lifestyle or maybe gain confidence that allows them to avoid some stress.

Starting point is 01:02:21 This is some amateur fortune teller shit. It's real amateur bullshit. i believe that there's no official reason but my belief is that they follow some ideal of a prudent life and have abilities to have less stress okay yeah cool a happy person i so i have a theory i think the real reason is in is interesting and not okay they might just be happier and happiness good you know and they probably avoid some stresses so i i feel like you know first of all winning is not a product of merit or effort or skill because like one of the theories is also like that by having better like stress management techniques they put themselves in a position to like also be an oscar winner

Starting point is 01:03:12 no motherfucker what studio put the film out exactly what's their market that's their awards budget that's the the win is the result of an industry conspiring to work with you to wager money on your career and wager and then like an oscar win is good for your career and when you win you become more profitable like once money is wagered on your career and you win then you are more profitable to an entire like galaxy of very successful and shrewd people who are in the business of investing in people's careers. Each celebrity is not an autonomous individual like the rest of us. They are the forward-facing mascot of an entire small company worth of people working to try to make money off of their career right and you can squeeze more money out of a company that has won the big game at award season basically hey why is that one racehorse all healthy that keeps winning all the races well

Starting point is 01:04:16 because it keeps winning all the races and they put more money invest more money in that racehorse so you keep winning and that's why the shitty horses we don't talk about anymore yeah i know this this study is extra funny in the context of most oscar campaigns in the press which is how much strife the actor went through right like no it's just working out really good for them like i don't care that leonardo dicaprio was like in the woods for a month or met a bear or something that's that he he didn't really go through that much and he's gonna be fine it's okay right oh well i mean now now i really have to think about what the what's the true cost of the oscars if people are dying if they're only if they're living four years less right well yeah but mean, it's that's the other thing is like it's also, you know, actors who were not nominated. So presumably are they pulling from like all actors like people who are in B movies as extras? Because then I fully believe the number set. And like that's the least surprising thing in the world that the person who is like in the spotlight of the entire industry would have have a longer lifespan.

Starting point is 01:05:30 It's just like petty pseudoscience like this, you know, where it's like, dude, you die sooner if you lost at the Oscars. It's like that's not that's not a real investigation. But I like this idea. I like the concept. I like to ruminate on it but so dr don yeah redelmeyer is who the study comes from you actually may know his work he was the first to study the correlation between cell phone use and car crashes back in 1997 when only stockbrokers and alicia silverstone characters cell phones. And he was the first to discover a huge increase in fatalities on Super Bowl Sunday, which actually informed like public safety policies and campaigns.

Starting point is 01:06:15 So part of me doesn't think that one is as special. What are you talking about? I feel like people get fucked up on. You might want to be careful out there every time people get fucked up on this day. But it's hard to. Those are, I mean, the cell phone thing. Okay, so he's got a little bit of a CV to lean on. Like, yeah, I'm starting to think this guy just likes entertainment.

Starting point is 01:06:41 Like, I like entertainment. Am I a scientist now? Sure. Cool. All right. is it like yeah like and how i wonder if like how many like were him experiencing it like he was on a cell phone and like almost crashed oh fuck right oh man i can't be the only but he has like just that wherewithal to be like i can't be the only person who just almost did that we probably need to look at that cut Cut to, you know what? Cell phones might be dangerous.

Starting point is 01:07:09 Another time he got shit-faced at a Super Bowl party, embarrassed himself, tried to go home, and crashed his car into a fucking tree on an abandoned road, and then came to that decision too. I think he might just be living it. These are carbon offsets for his like own life where he's just like constantly like driving through parks and like taking out people and being like huh all

Starting point is 01:07:33 right well i gotta educate people about this i'm a i'm a method researcher right i try to embody the terrible thing that i think could happen like oh this doesn't sound like science at all the terrible thing that I think could happen. You're like, oh, this doesn't sound like science at all. I'm strengthening my theory that it's just because the whole industry wants Oscar winners to live longer so they can continue to make money off of them. While actors who won Oscars live longer, writers who won Oscars ended up dying sooner

Starting point is 01:07:57 by about 3.6 years. And that tracks because nobody gives a shit about writers in Hollywood at all. And writers are torture. Like, so many tortured souls that are really great writers, too. Yeah, I can see that. I hope it's also because the non-winning screenplays, the writer was lazy, so they conserved a bunch of energy. They saved a bunch of health.

Starting point is 01:08:22 They got eight hours of sleep every night. It's great. they saved a bunch of health you know right they got eight hours of sleep every night it's great i just like though that his whole this theory even came that he said he watched the oscars and he said the celebrities look quote much more vivacious at the awards shows than the regular people they were on cocaine man i just i just want to talk to this guy i'm like yo bro let's come up with a study right now man man. I like the way you think. He's like, hold on. He's like, they're vivacious.

Starting point is 01:08:49 Hold on, hold on. Do you die sooner if you lose an Oscar? Oh, my God. He's just a guy who hasn't learned that it's cool to be famous. Like, how is all this joy reaching them? How is this happening? It looks so happy. That's like a parent text that you said like you know a celebrity's mom is like hey great job on the red carpet you look so happy you look so happy it makes me happy it feeds my heart and that's all

Starting point is 01:09:21 i wanted you know i told you that i just want you to be happy honey so you brought that uh what's her name with you i wasn't doing anything but she looked happy too so that's a little too happy to do that for her mom her name's meryl meryl streep we've been over this pretty often i know you told me you liked the Iron Lady a lot, too. Like, you really liked it. She is the mother of your grandchildren, Mom. Jesus. I guess.

Starting point is 01:09:52 Still haven't seen a paternity test. All right. Alex, as always, truly a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah, thank you guys, as always, for having me. And yeah, I'm Alex Schmitty on Twitter and alexschmitty.com. And then I make a weekly podcast called Secretly Incredibly Fascinating. And each episode, we take one thing people think is ordinary, get into history, science stories, why it's amazing. And I do a bunch of research and then bring funny people on to make fun with me. So please check it out if you search secretly in your podcast app, it's the red logo secretly, incredibly fascinating. There you go.

Starting point is 01:10:29 Really proud of it. I hope people, hope people like it. You should be. It's a great show. People should go check it out. Thank you. And thanks for being on it.

Starting point is 01:10:36 Both of you. Oh yeah. I learned so much. What are we talking about? Refrigeration? Yeah, we did refrigeration. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:42 That's why I, anyway, if you, that's, what's great about your show is it starts on a topic like that. And even at the end, I'm like, man, I didn't know any of this shit that we're just talking about refrigeration. Thank you so much. And then suddenly just refrigeration facts start being sprinkled into Daily Zeitgeist over the next week.

Starting point is 01:10:59 Yeah, exactly. I don't know if you knew about this thing, but. Yeah. All right, I'll come clean. You know how I spent a lot of time talking about how the U.S. sewage system is a great metaphor for the electoral politics about a year ago? I did a sewage system, secretly incredibly fascinating. And it was very fascinating. Fatbergs, I was not ready for the fatbergs the size

Starting point is 01:11:27 of icebergs god that's gross yeah i do i love the idea of me being a puppet master some of the time that's really fun to me like just once in a while great it's always the one uh is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yeah i saw this is from it's at chris trauma is the name it's a funny account chris trauma the tweet was imagine getting fitted for a tux and the guy makes measurements with a fruit by the foot and neither of you say a word about it the whole time i love it yeah I'm getting married later this year to have my first Taylor experiences. And yeah, I want that to be what happened to me. You're still shopping around for Taylors until you find one who's going to do it right.

Starting point is 01:12:15 Yeah, one of them tried to use gushers. They're not really good as a unit of measurement. And I'm running it. Tried to combine a bunch of fruit roll-ups. I just like Davey. It's like, uh-huh. And he's like, obviously I'm a professional so I do leave the paper on so it doesn't damage your current garments when I'm doing measurements

Starting point is 01:12:32 with my Fruit by the Foot tape. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. If you like 420 Day Fiance, then check that out. That's not a good way to promote that, but check out that other podcast I do call 420 Day Fiance, then check that out. That's not a good way to promote that, but check out that other podcast

Starting point is 01:12:46 I do call 420 Day Fiance, about 90 Day Fiance. Also, the basketball show, as usual, Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Our NBA show, we're just great. We're in the middle of the playoffs. We're talking that talk, talking Giannis, maybe tune in.

Starting point is 01:13:00 I know a lot of Milwaukee Bucks fans like, when's the Giannis love? It's coming. It's coming. It is imminent. Yes. We have to take a breath and then we talk about our beloved basketball players. Some tweets that I like.

Starting point is 01:13:13 First one is from Sam Sanders at Sam Sanders tweeted. One thing I'll say about Politico, they don't hold vital reporting hostage until a book release. Which, yeah, for good or bad that is true and then uh sesla at sessy kiba k-h-i-b-a tweeted not my mom telling me she talked she still talked to my ex because i still talk to her ex ma'am that's my dad holy shit wow i hope that's based in fact, because that is... That's such a terribly unhealthy relationship with your mother. Like, oh, my heart aches. If that is true, I'm like, oh.

Starting point is 01:13:52 But hey, we love a joke. I feel like I just watched like a 10-part documentary and my brain is catching up. What did he do? Let's see. Twe tweets i've been enjoying i liked just a lot of the tweets about about about the experience of being on twitter while the met gala was happening and the overturning of roe was being announced i like jamie loft' tweet. What if we kissed while Elon Musk monetized our viral tweets about Roe being overturned?

Starting point is 01:14:30 And, yeah, I like, oh, the Logan Trent crack writer tweeted, y'all let them scapegoat Muslims with that Sharia law bullshit while they stockpiled as much Christian fascism as they could fill their carts with. Just good. Good perspective.

Starting point is 01:14:48 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Hello. Where we link off to the

Starting point is 01:15:03 information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh man this is a track from uh like a 70s 60s brazilian artist named vanderlea who was like a tv presenter but also like a musician and this track lindo is just it's it's sexy you know what i mean it's it's like got this like old like 70s like sort of poppy soul vibe like on the brink of disco but it's just i just love the instrumentation on it and it's real instruments i find myself like every now and then like i want to hear people play play on their instruments uh and make music rather than sampling and stuff like that so this is a great track so this is lindo by wanderleia

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