The Daily Zeitgeist - It's Chip Dipping Christmas, Snoop Buys Death Row 02.11.22

Episode Date: February 11, 2022

In episode 1083, Jack and guest co-host Marcella Arguello are joined by comedian Daniel Van Kirk to discuss Snoop Dogg Now Owns Death Row, The Big Game’s Coming Up! Side Note, How Do You Guys, As Stand Ups, Deal With This Fucking Country?, It’s Dip Christmas and more! Snoop Dogg Now Owns Death Row The Big Game’s Coming Up! Side Note, How Do You Guys, As Stand Ups, Deal With This Fucking Country? It’s Dip Christmas Pen Pals with Daniel & RoryLISTEN: Colours [feat. Ghetts & D Double E] by Frisco Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Friday, February 11th, 2022. Happy 70th to my dad. My dad. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka I've got a Samsung, and you look lazy. If you've got iPhone, then you're a baby.

Don't fucking at me. Look how mad they be. Go get a real phone, you fucking baby. That is courtesy of Rando Dixonart on discord i also have an iphone but i i just agree with the stance that people who are iphone users and look down on the samsung phone users the green or blue text messages need to you know back off a little bit because the iphone is just a baby phone made for people who don't know how to use technology that well which i happily include myself in the camp of

well i am thrilled to be joined today by a very special guest co-host a writer actor one of the funniest stand-up comedians doing it she's the the co-host of The Scroll Down on HeadGum. You can go get her stand-up album, The Woke Bully, from 800-lb Gorilla Records. Please welcome the hilarious and brilliant Marcela Arguello! Oh my god, thank you so much. It's me, Marcela, a.k.a. Fisher Pryor, a.k.a. Queef Latina, a.k.a. My Dad is Dead. I can't believe you would brag about your father's 70th birthday

Jack aka some of the best on the planet is our android users okay let's just clear that up right now thank you for having me it's wonderful having you how have you been you know what I've been good

I've been doing a little road road gigs here and there and uh i'm in love jack so that's fun hey look at that and yeah who would have thought i know and and i'm not and i don't have covet every time i travel and i come home i have to like i just kind of isolate myself a little bit for a few days just to make sure. And I don't have it, so I'm happy. Yeah. So you're home now from a road swing? Is that what they call it in comedy?

Yeah, Tacoma in Seattle. Sorry if you missed it. I'm going to Joylet, Illinois, this weekend opening for Felipe Esparza. And actually next weekend, I'll be at the San Francisco Punchline, February 16th and 19th, if you guys want to come see me for that too i know you guys love me out there you know uh well washington if you if you missed marcella you fucked up there's no other way to to put it

you actually there is another way to put it in c uh september i'll be back in seattle so there you go well get ready then i guess i'll be back in seattle so there you go those days so get ready then i guess i'll be well marcella we are thrilled to be joining our third seat by another one of the funniest stand-ups doing it you know him from bob's burgers the nfl network you can hear him every week co-hosting the hit podcast dumb people town he is the hilarious the talented, the kind, Daniel VanCamp! Oh, thank you so much. A.K.A. Danny from Rochelle. There he is. Thanks for having me here. I love when I

get to do this show. And I'm so glad Miles is here. We love when you get to do it as well. I know, right? You were saying that before we started recording. You were like, oh, thank God. That was the first thing he said. He didn't even say hello. He was just like, oh, thank God. That was the first thing he said. He didn't even say hello. He was just like, oh, that Miles is here. Yep. Yeah.

Miles will be back soon. Second to last. Supposedly. Miles-less episode. Supposedly. Where's he at? We're not talking. What's he doing? He's fucking and sucking?

Yeah, fucking and sucking. You know. You know how Miles does. I do. Out of the country. Oh, he's out of the country? Yeah. Damn.

And doing great. We miss him dearly. Do we, Jack? As we do. Being me. Listeners probably noticed the show is extremely threadbare as of late. You know. Week and a half into just me putting the show together.

And I'm like just recycling shit are you putting are you like doing the song thing you're picking out songs yeah well no our our listeners provide the song oh the songs at the end no that is uh all super producer justin smith i just put the stories together and those are you know it's getting thin out here. I think today's episode is just me going to be like so who you like in the Super Bowl guys? You heard about this thing? Jack is it because you

only subscribe to white news? Is that why? That's why it's not as spicy every week? That's right. It makes sense. I check out Tucker Carlson the night before and I just like kind of get some takes, load up a little bit. And then, yeah. And then I always like to hear the takes from the folks over,

the guys at Crooked who did Save America with their pod. All right, Daniel, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. Snoop Dogg owns Death Row. That is cool. I'm happy about that. No, that definitely deserves a mouth air horn. Okay, I wasn't sure.

Yeah. No, I will allow it. So we're going to talk about that and just other brands that should be owned by the very talented people who made them. We're going to the big games coming up. So I read a story about how people feel about the NFL and it just made sent me on a semi spiraling. And now I just want to ask you guys how as stand upians, you deal with this country, like how it seems to you guys as of right now. We are going to talk about dips.

I feel like the Super Bowl is dip Christmas. So we're going to talk about, you know, our favorite dips, any thoughts you guys have on dips. And we might even get to the movie Death on the Nile, maybe the most cursed movie of the year. I just want to make sure we talk about the dips, okay? Yeah. Oh, we're going to get to the dips.

I love talking about food. There's always at the beginning, like, one story that I'm like, well, we're not missing that one. And that is it for today's episode. Good. I agree. But before we get to any of that shit before we get to even the dips daniel we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history i went what you know because just like you guys like we're you know like if you're researching a bit or you're putting a show together sometimes my search history will be dominated by that like uh

uh mine and rory scoble and i a podcast called Pen Pals where people send us letters. And so yesterday I was trying to figure out what somebody meant, like what they're referencing. So that took over a lot of it. But I wanted to go with something that was personal for my own. And it was something I saw on TikTok. And then I wanted to research to see if I could buy it. It is called the Meg horn xl tp so it's a tp aka i wouldn't have called it tp it looks like a tent to me but it has a like port for like a chimney pipe and then you can also buy like a wood burning little like stove and heater to put into it it's meant to go into this i've just in the last like year and a half i've just

become obsessed with like camping and outdoor accommodations is that the right word just things to use and have to make your outdoor experience even better i went down a big rabbit hole after i started watching the show alone have you guys seen alone no i i have heard my many uh podcasters talk about alone but i am somewhat reality tv averse but that one sounds like it should be on my list of ones to check it's more of a docu-series than it is reality tv it's just people living outside in alone crazy remote areas and it it shows me everything i don't know how to do like i would never survive and so i think that's why i'm obsessive it's like man they they know how to build a shelter i have no idea how to do any of that so would you ever do it, though, like for a week? Yes. Rory and I are doing a like outdoor wilderness training, like three day or five day thing. We have not found the dates yet.

I feel like it's more of a warm weather thing I'd like to do. I'm just always happy when his wife gets a break. When Rory's wife gets a break. Yeah, shout out to Jordan. She's a mess. Love Jordan. So we're going to go do it, and I'm going to hopefully learn some stuff.

Like, do either one of you know how to make a fire? I know how to make a fire. Fuck no. Are you kidding me? We got a fire pit. But like, getting me out in the actual wilderness, I don't know. A lighter couple editions of New York Times

to use as kindling, and then some very dry firewood. Like you can't have been outside in the moisture for at least a couple of years. And then I might be able to start a fire. But even that, are you going with the triangular structure or you do a log cabin when you build a fire? I do. I do triangular structure. Just lean a couple things against each other.

I do that too. Yeah. The log cabin lasts you a lot longer. Yeah. Get me a finger so I can go, hey, you, can you light this fire for do that too. Yeah. The log cabin lasts you a lot longer. Yeah. Get me a finger so I can go, hey you, can you light this fire for me?

Right, right. I'm not, I'm not doing it. That's the only tool you need? Yeah. Hey you. Right. So I love it.

So that's what I recently searched was the Megahorn XL. That sounds cool. It is, it looks so cool. I'm trying to make myself sound all outdoorsy and MacGyver-ish,

but I did, I did leave out the main ingredient, which is a gas can. It needs to be full. It can't be halfway full, I've found. I need all the gas. The wood-burning stove, is that something you're kind of toting out there into the middle of the wilderness with yourself? It's very compact. I wonder how much you have to assemble it. toting out there into the middle of the wilderness with yourself it's very compact i wonder if how

much you have to assemble it that's right too it's like that might be the hardest part of for somebody who doesn't do it camping is knowing everything you need to bring and then packing it to be able to carry it because what you drive somewhere ideally right and then you're like all right i'm to hike five miles or six miles. I have to be able to take all this with me. Right. That's the thing. Like on that show alone, they're allowed to take one personal photo and then 10 survival items, and that's it.

So they know exactly what they're going to do. That's why they're building shelter and starting fires and stuff like that. So would you know what your 10 items would be? I have no idea. I mean, I think you'd want like a water. They have those water filter things that you can like pour in. Like it's a jug, self-contained water filter. I think that's probably key.

And then they have those little, I'm saying this wrong because I don't even know, like a flint stick things that like start the fire for you. Yeah. Because they haven't heard of lighters. Water and heat, key. And then I've learned from watching the show, things that like start the fire for you yeah those that because they haven't heard of like water and heat right key right and then i've learned from watching the show they have things that are they look like knives but they're also saws i think that's crucial and then fishing line i think i because i'm not good at hunting right or cleaning like an animal like but but you think you'd be

able to just have loose fishing line and just catch something with it? Just like garrot a fish? They'll create, yeah. Or they'll weave a gill net and then drop that in and then pull the gill net in each day. I know exactly what that is. That's cool. Yeah. So I don't know.

What did I say? Five things? Yeah. I'm halfway there. How many of the people end up eating that personal photo? Is that because I feel like I would. All of them. I think that's day one.

And I've heard that it tends to be the people who have the most body mass tend to win every time. That's a critique I've heard of alone. I believe that i would people yeah dude i went on a juice cleanse that was a it was a three-day one it was my first one and i did it in two and a half days because i know myself and within a day i was like i am i think i'm killing myself i think i'm dying i'm too thin to be doing that type of shit but i had to for health reasons and uh i yeah i can't imagine i would pass out right even after two and a half days did you feel cleansed like i've never done one

you know what i had very healthy poops okay that's what i had i had very like when it was like back when i was a teenager my poops were very healthy and that's how they were so sorry i don't mean to talk about make anybody uncomfortable about poops but very healthy and that's how they were. So, sorry, I don't mean to talk about, make anybody uncomfortable about poops, but I'm sure you guys saw there's a company that's encouraging people to, a bidet company that's encouraging people to post pictures of their poops after the Super Bowl. Did you guys see that? Yeah, Tushy's doing this. Bowel, Super Bowel Monday. Yeah, Super Bowel Monday. That's what they're calling it Bowel Monday. Yeah. Super Bowel Monday. Got it.

That's what they're calling it. All right. Yeah. And they're giving away like $10,000 to the best. Yeah. The best poop. I'm about to say this. Poop pit.

So maybe if you still got just enough time to go on this juice cleanse and then create your biggest dump of your life and win the 10K. Shout out to me. Is it the, are they judging based on size, formation? Jack, I couldn't tell you what the fuck they're judging on this. Yeah. Yeah, like, if you win, like, you got to be dropping boas? Is that what you got to be?

I'm tempted to try. I'm not going to lie. I've spoken before on this podcast about my now 70-year-old dad and how he grew up as one of eight in philly and he and his older brother it was like a way to brag that like they had to eat well they would save like their biggest poops in a shoebox and like you know yeah and show them to each other i mean that that gives you a sense of what the you know what eight kids living together smelled like is that it like that wasn't noticeable like people people weren't like what the fuck is happening the second they walked

in the front door that's wild yeah that gives us a sense of uh your trauma jack because i just learned a little piece about you and your family history yeah that tells me a little bit about you that i didn't know before. Yeah. It was very awkward when I was a teenager and I went into his closet and it was just shoe boxes. It was like the end of the prestige, but just shoe boxes and shoe boxes of poops. But they were all very impressive and well-formed. So he's been training for this Super Bowl Monday.

Tell him. Please tell him. Lifetime. Have him submit. Daniel, what was the name of the thing you searched? Megahorn XLTP. T-I-P-I. I think it's like an eight person.

I wouldn't need that big. Give me a three or a four. There you go. Yeah. Oh, wow. But maybe you want it big because you do have a fire going inside your tent. You never know who's going to stop by. Wait, can you do a fire inside the tent is that you well i don't think depending on how you set your tent up or

your shelter a lot of people do it on alone like their fire is inside their living space and that's gone very awry for a few people on the show just a few yeah but i would think if you were gonna have you would want a big size teepee or tent if if you have a even a wood fire you know contained wood fire burning like stove with a pipe coming out the top you'd still want to be able to have some distance from that i think yeah yeah i thought the one of the ideas behind the teepee was that you could have a fire in there and the smoke would go out through the top. Yes. But yeah, like,

uh, what are those called? Malms? Those like mid century fireplaces that people go absolutely nuts for that are ridiculously expensive. You've seen them. It's like a, like, it looks like a little portable fireplace with a pipe going straight up.

Right, right. Yeah. I have a, that's what I was picturing when you were talking about like a portable fireplace, just like, you know, this is like a square.

So you have the fire in like a, it looks like a little microwave, the wood-burning fire, and then it's a metal plate on top of it to serve as a hot plate for cooking things while you're in your teepee. Or you could just have a hot plate. What is something, Daniel, that you think is overrated? Okay, I don't know how controversial this is going to be. It might not mean anything to you if you haven't experienced it. There are people that I will say we, not even me, people that we respect and love

that we are friends with that love this thing. I am not a negative person. I like liking things. But in my personal opinion, Yellow Jackets is wildly overrated. I can't even, I had to stop watching it.

It was making so little sense to me. To the point where I still, I want to, you know, we're so like separated from each other still. These friends of mine, the NRs are comedians, great writers who love it. I want to, I can't wait to see them to be like, you have to tell me if I'm watching this show wrong. Because I trust you more than I trust negativity. You're talking to one of them right now. We are we are a Yellow Jackets family at the Daily Zeitgeist. Really?

We liked it. We did it as one of the watches. I don't. We did it as one of the watches. Are you insane? This is the second time I've heard somebody who's pretty adamantly against Yellow Jackets. But I like things. I don't like being negative.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it definitely didn't seem like it struck with some people. who I heard talk negatively about it last time really hated the trailer or not the trailer, the pilot which is all about high school like girls in high school Can I tell you my number one? I could tell you multiple but can I tell you my number one I had to bail on it? Marcella, is it okay if it's episode three?

I'm not giving away big stuff Sure, I just answered for Marcella I watched the first episode and I was like, meh Okay, so you know it I'm not giving away big stuff. Sure. I just answered for Marcella. I haven't watched it. I watched the first episode and I was like, meh. Okay, so you know it. Okay, yes. Yeah.

Okay, so you know it. So here's the deal. The coach loses a leg, right? Mm-hmm. Then he takes these kids out to practice shooting with the gun and ammo that they've found, right? Yeah. Girl, one of the girls, shoots really well then a guy who's shooting well for a provoke some not even that it doesn't even matter provoked and provoked points a gun

at the girl at her head now we would all go hey guess who never gets to touch the gun again right this kid right yeah He doesn't say that. Then they go back to where they've set up their little camp, where they're living in the little cabin. And he says, all right, you guys need to go hunting for us. You know who I think I'll send? I'm going to send the girl who did a good job, and I'm going to send the guy with the gun.

He gets to hold the gun. I'm going to send him with the person he just pointed a gun at. No supervision. No rationale for why you do that now here i'll tell you as a writer i write tv here's how you fix that the coach doesn't go with them when they practice same thing happens guy pulls gun on girl right when they come back since they're kids and teenagers and they don't want to like narc or be uncool he goes how did shooting go and they're like it went okay who was the best and they kind of begrudge and they go, she was and he was.

But he doesn't know what just happened there. And then he goes, all right, well, you two are the ones going hunting. So he unknowingly sends this possible toxic situation where a guy just literally threatened to kill someone with a gun to the head. But he doesn't know it. But the way they made this show, he does know it. So I ask you, Jack, as a fan of this show, why? Why in the world from a storytelling perspective? Jack, let me take this for you, Jack.

Would this guy be like, hey, you just tried to kill this girl? You guys should go hunting together. You know, I think the reason you don't like this show is because you're coming from a place of logic. And television doesn't always love logic. 100%. Like Hawkeye. Hawkeye is a batshit crazy show. of logic and television doesn't always love logic. 100%. Like Hawkeye. Hawkeye is a batshit crazy show. And I loved it because it knew it was batshit crazy. It was like, we shot that arrow.

We didn't need that arrow, but it was fun. That's why we did it. This is a show that prides itself on being a prestige drama that doesn't make... I'm not saying you have to dislike it. I'm not trying to dissuade it. I'd rather like it. But you can't tell me that makes any sense.

Well, I don't think it makes sense. I think it also is based... That dude just tried to kill that girl. Well, he didn't pull the trigger, did he? Jack, what are you defending? You put a gun to my head, I'm going to say, why are you trying to kill me, dude? Right. I don't know. I think everybody needs a thicker skin in america today pull guns on whoever we want that's not the check

i was expecting to i guess you know what does keep not everybody not everybody gets a trophy okay marcella no i i think that it is full of people making bad decisions. They're in situations they're poorly equipped to handle. And then it keeps going. But the show tells me he is equipped. I mean, not really. He's an assistant high school soccer coach. He says, I know how to hunt.

Which also, just for the record, people we've talked about alone and outdoors, knowing how to shoot and knowing how to hunt, not the same thing at all. But you don't hear me complaining about that because who cares maybe they didn't know that but this guy definitely knows that dude just put a gun to that other girl's head my only complaint now your logic is now just convenient for you i don't know daniel you're starting to lose me on that one i loved the performances i thought the casting was amazing uh prestige casting tm super producer on hosnia i thought and then when it really starts to go off the rails in the

later episodes, that's when it really got me. Got you in a good way? Yeah, yeah. Hooked me. Got me in. So I also just recently finished Station Eleven. I'm into that right now. I thought that was very good. Yeah. Oh yeah, well I'm watching Pam and Tommy and I love it.

I want to start it so much i've heard it's wonderful also problematic and from that weird time where we look back and go you know like how with the britney stuff we're like yeah this person was dealing with stuff and we all just villainized her like treated women just shittily like that no one was saying hey these this couple's privacy was completely violated like right. Well, also, I was a child. We were, but I'm saying as a society. We're all complicit. You were a kid and you said nothing.

And you were a child and you said nothing. Definitely. But it is that era of like they were trying to teach us that you can violate people and it's fine because they're celebrities and it doesn't matter. And we've definitely learned from that. I hope. I get you. I can't wait to start that show, Marcel. Yeah, his dick talks.

It's really stupid. That's the worst part of the whole series. Wait. His dick is talking to him. Yeah. Sorry for the spoiler alert. Are you talking about jackass? Are you talking about jackass?

I'm not talking about jackass, Daniel. I'm talking about Mammon and Tommy. His dick goes, hey, let's fuck a bunch of other bitches. No, penis. It's really... You want to talk about logic, Daniel? You want to talk about logic?

The pee hole works like a mouth? You know what? I'm going to let you watch. I mean, now I have to watch. It was one of those moments where, you know, because I was watching and I was like, oh, you know, feeling my feelings of like, yeah, we violated and they're trying to humanize and yada, yada, yada. And then that happened. And I had my jaw dropped.

I put pause and I had a big boisterous laugh for about five minutes because I couldn't believe that they took something that was I mean, it's a pretty serious story and it's a great love story. But yeah, they they sprinkled that in. So I'm sorry, Daniel, if you love logic, this is not the movie. I mean, I'm fine with it. I cried when I cried when Avengers Endgame started. So I am all I'll go on a roller coaster, Daniel. I don't know if I like your opinion. I just I just like operating within the structure of the story you're telling me yeah i like operating within the structure you're telling me you're telling me like oh all

these people are super smart this is what they care about and then they stop doing those things i'm like yeah i would i had similar complaints with yellow jackets in the like adult portion of the story that felt like okay this is more along the lines of lost or sub-lost. It feels like this is made by people who saw Lost, but then they really stick the landing, and I loved everything about the wilderness part of the story. Yeah, I'm into that part too. Hey, I'll say it for the last time.

I would rather love it. I don't like disliking things. Yeah, yeah. Well, I am now... Just one question about the dick talking what is the voice throaty is it like what what kind of voice are we talking you have to tune in hey tommy fucking south park yeah yeah mr hanky yeah mr they hired the same guy Mr. Hankey to do Tommy Lee's dick is it like every other bar of soap

or like anything that comes to life is just from New York I can't wait for you guys to watch it it will catch you it will get you there was also a second where I was like am I going to keep supporting this because of that? I don't like it.

I felt like Daniel in that moment where like the conflict really got me. And it made me second guess what I was watching. And I was like, this was a choice they made. This is, you know, keeping it light. Let me just move on. I'll never forget being in the movie theater when Bruno's dick talked to me. Like that like that was that was something that was I was not expecting it. And I had to look at myself in the mirror

and be like, why? Why is that such a such a thing for me? You know, processing. I'm OK doing it in the privacy of my home. But sure. What Bruno does it and suddenly it's not cool. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Daniel, we do finally always love to ask our guests what something they think is that's underrated. You know what I think is underrated? And my family's done this a lot. And I like doing it. Take yourself somewhere, preferably like in the country, like the Malibu Hills or whatever, like up into the wilderness a bit. And just drive around and let yourself get lost.

I think that like we're always so much like, I have to do this, I need to do this. Like give yourself a little bit of time to be like, I don't know where I am. You're eventually going to hit the ocean or the 101. So you can't get too lost. Just make sure you have enough gas. And it's something that I actually, I love doing.

And I think it's an underrated thing or just maybe even a thing people don't do of like give yourself a little bit of time every once in a while just be like i don't know where i'm going i'm just uh just taking a little me time yeah having the like gps app is i i think it makes me less likely to do that but it also like you should just be like no i can always find my way back because I have this. I'll just, I just hit home whenever I get super duper lost. Especially like in the hills. Just keep trying to go down. You'll eventually get to, like I said, either the ocean or the 101.

You get to do fun stuff like, should we go left? Should we go right? Even if you're just saying it to yourself. I don't know. It's an underrated thing that I like. I agree. But I will say that the Daily Light Guide listeners that live in the country who hear you say drive through the country like the Malibu Hills are really going to. They reacted when you said that. There's no way. You know what's weird? And you're so right, Marcella. A lot of people don't realize you get 40 minutes outside of L.A. and you are in.

Like I had family come visit and I took them like an hour north and they were like oh this is all agriculture this is like I was like yeah you're very quickly out and as a born and raised in a little farm town Rochelle Illinois and um spending a lot of time in Wisconsin I've I was born and raised in that like very like expansive area and even then I like driving around getting lost but you're so right a lot of people don't they think you're just driving around like gates and yeah mansions and there are obviously there are some of those up there but you could also very be like i think that's a mountain lion like you can be out there a little bit it's still california i will also say that's a romantic idea but as a woman and any womanless thing, don't recommend it.

You do got to tell your homegirls where you're going. But I do. It's a nice idea. Yeah. Yeah, that's true, too. Like, I wouldn't want to be without service. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It definitely is the start to many a terrifying horror movie. It's how Yellow Jacket started. Yeah. All right. I like it. Let's how Yellowjacket started. Yeah. All right. I like it. Let's get into some news.

Specifically, Snoop Dogg now owns Death Row, which, I don't know, this story... I feel like every once in a great while, capitalism works, and the person who deserves

to own something gets to own it. The NPR article announcing this development capitalism works and the person who deserves to own something gets to own it the the npr article announcing this development does include like just a soul withering bit about like how he acquired it from private equity firm managed by blackstone and then a senior managing director at blackstone like weighed in on what he thinks of the acquisition. I'm just like, who could possibly give a fuck what a senior managing director at Blackstone thinks about Snoop Dogg owning Death Row? But it does seem like this is how the world should work.

He's probably the biggest reason that kids still think it's cool to wear a Death Row T-shirt. And I'm curious to hear what he's going to do with it. Yeah, I mean, knowing Snoop, he's probably going to invest in the young up-and-comers, especially in the LA area, because he loves to support the youth. So I do hope he does invest in the young rappers in the Los Angeles area.

I love when, I don't know if this is a direct one-to-one, but like any musician that owns all their publishing rights, it always makes me so happy. But then you hear, did it already happen? Wasn't David Bowie's estate auctioning off his publishing rights? I didn't know that. Or maybe they are going to or they already have. Right.

And for some reason I'm thinking like $400 million or something like it went for. I prefer when venture capitalists own the publishing rights. That's always been my thing. I think they make smart decisions and they have the best interest of the music. You've always said you need to not be of the art to know what to do with the art. Check in with David Kestenbaum, a senior managing director at Blackstone, and find out

what he thinks is going to happen. What he thinks should happen with the publishing of David Bowie music. But yeah, so this, I wanted to do other things that should be owned by the person most... so michael jordan owns the charlotte hornets but i feel like in a just world that that's great i'm glad that michael

jordan owns the charlotte hornets i feel like he should own the bulls instead and i also feel like he should own it with pippin and rodman which would make it way more entertaining and give us something to read about every single day oh for sure dr j and alan iverson should own the 76ers i was trying to think of like another entertainment one like maybe trey parker and matt stone should own comedy central or something yeah they definitely should dan van kirk should own chilies right i would love to own chilies chilies or cheesecake factory either one the greats sign me up for yeah yeah it's a thing but am i crazy this is what i think when it comes to music i feel like who better than the person who created it yeah but like actors like we don't get to own

anything stand-ups we should be able to own all of our own stuff, right? Right. But, like, and hopefully we do, but, like, I don't know if sometimes, like, the face of the organization is as good to be the person owning. You see this a lot when, like, athletes try to become coaches even, and you're like, well, that didn't really

work out. Yeah. No, that's fair. Like, I'm assuming that there's a good management team that will help run the day-to-day on Death Row. But wouldn't it be great if it was just day-to-day Snoop?

Just answering the phones. Just grinding. Grinding through some Excel spreadsheets. Yeah. Do you remember when Michael Jackson owned the Beatles music? Yeah. That was a while.

There was a big falling out. Yeah, they had a big falling out, but it was just funny because he was just letting every car commercial have a Beatles song. He didn't give a fuck. He was like, nobody can have mine,

but you can play this fucking Beatles shit. Right. Yeah, I feel like the 90s were, like every commercial, He was like, nobody can have mine, but you can play this fucking Beatles shit. Right. Yeah, I feel like the 90s were like every commercial. It was just like a Beatles jukebox. It was like, which Beatles song is going to come on for this HP printer cartridge ad? That's wild. And Michael Jackson was like, this is hilarious. I don't know what the logic was.

If he was like, they stole from black artists, so I'm going to steal their shit. I don't know what the logic was if he was like they stole from black artists so i'm gonna steal their shit i don't know what his logic was that that makes me feel better especially if that was like led zeppelin or somebody like that then i would go well then i'm all good with any of that yeah yeah oh that's so funny any other any other ideas for who should own like people who should own i was trying to think of like kendrick should own something but maybe it's just his own music like should tarantino and miramax not that like tarantino's my favorite but you make a good point like when tarantino didn't you buy the vista here in town that was dope yeah yeah no that doesn't feel good yeah yeah

like i wish him and a couple other like big, big-time cinephile movie-loving people would buy the Arclight, which, for anybody outside of the Malibu Hills, is a, like, a chain of, like, movie theaters that we had here that were just wonderful and beautiful. Yeah. That are defunct because of the pandemic. I actually read this morning that Joe Rogan owns the N-word. All right. What are we doing? Come on.

What are we doing, guys? Isn't it? Certainly. Joe Rogan's trying N-word. All right. What are we doing? Come on. What are we doing, guys? Isn't it? Certainly. Joe Rogan's trying to take it back. Right. He owns it. Yeah. All right.

The big game's coming up. And as I was looking for a big game story, I ran into this news story on, I like to look at the front page of Yahoo. You guys ever do that? Yes. Yeah. Just see what,

oh, it's, it's the best. I haven't in years, but it used to be a thing I would do if I was super bored in another life at work. I'd be like, let's just see what's on Yahoo. Yeah. Anyways, the, the main NFL related story on the front page of Yahoo, which is like, you know, top five news sources in America, is like how the culture wars have taken a toll on Republican support for the NFL. And these are basically people saying, I no longer like the NFL because they're too nice to black players and coaches. And it's just, I don't know, it's so it's like six wrong turns from like the universe of the truth. Like, how do you and that so that's what then I was like, oh, I have, you know, two working touring stand ups on. I'm curious, like, do you notice a difference? Do you feel like when you're going out on stage, there's like more of an opportunity that there's going to be like a landmine in the in the audience and somebody is just going to not even be in the same universe as you?

Where are you guys at with United States go? This is really an adorable question because it's so innocent. It's rooted in innocence because you're basically asking us when when we go on the road, what our experience is, and everybody knows that going on the road fucking sucks because these people are dumbasses. And that is just, you have to figure out

how much you want to compromise your material and yourself when you do certain gigs. And some people don't give a fuck. Their material is not good. So they can perform in front of anybody and be fine and not offend anybody. And everything is fine. It doesn't matter what your background is.

And then there's instances where you realize, like I did a festival a few years ago. And it was a nice mix of comedians, different backgrounds, nice diverse mix. And then like the audience was just older white folks. And, you you know the comics that played it safe did great and then some of us who just just went and did our sets start to finish without adjusting we had a terrible time and you also know like you won't get asked back you know you won't work in this venue again and that's like you know something you have to like accept or not accept and that just depends on what you want to do but i i do want to say though that the other interesting thing about this

article it's like people are watching the nfl less and on the left side it's because how badly they treat the black players and on the right side it's how good they're they're treating the black players and then like if you don't watch sports, you're just like, these people are still getting paid too much money. People still spend way too much and invest too much when it comes to professional athletes.

And it's just, what a wild ride. And Daniel, I don't know how it is for you, but. Yeah, no, I mean, it's similar. I think whenever I found that somebody will get mad at something I say, I've gone as far to like ask that like i'll be like you're what are you mad about what are you mad about and then usually like if somebody was like well dude i just didn't like like that fucking shit you said about

wearing masks or whatever and then i'll go you're sick of it like you're sick of it to go around this road you're sick of like masks like you don't like them they're like of the, to go around this road. Do you're sick of like masks? Like you don't like them? They're like, no. You want to know something? I don't like them either. Right. Who out here is like, I like, so like, I'll try to like go into, and then also go. So you, you're mad about something I've said. And then I go, don't you? Aren't you?

Am I crazy for thinking you come from the side of things where they keep saying, fuck your feelings. So, but not your feelings. Right. Just, just mine. Right. Not yours though. So you're mad about your, and so then i'll try to like whatever and then i mean i've had people where i've been like you're more than welcome to leave i'll make sure you get your money back and i'm

like oh just just so you know i'm not being mean to you i'm saying you definitely would be having a better night somewhere else and you have my permission to go have that night i try to like yeah take it out but to be also to go have that night i try to like yeah take it out but to be also to go back to like my drive around and get lost in the wilderness type thing let's be honest here i'm a six foot two straight white male having any sort of aggressive conversation that i want with any person knowing probably with the exception of a weapon i'm going to be fine so i think it's completely different if you're a person of color or a woman or, you know, I don't know. I look, I always say, I have a joke where I'm like, I look like you guys think you know where I was on January 6th.

Like I look like that. And then I'm usually like, and if you're thinking Cheesecake Factory, you're correct. So it's different. Like, where can you come from, you know, to be able to, like, have that? But that's kind of my usual approach to it. Like, why are you mad? Because usually the person I'm talking to either looks exactly like me or is not my size. And so I don't.

You just have to play it differently. We have a friend who's a comic that, like, some guy, like, started going at her. And no one. It like took way too long for even other comics to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, dude. And I would you'd love to watch that video and go, oh, I would step in. But like, yeah, you would now, you know, you fucking turn this video on and you read the caption before it even started. You know exactly what's going on. That's funny.

I'm sorry. I was on stage and my and a lady was you could tell she was ready to charge the stage and my friend lydia popovich is a regular opener for me and a regular on this podcast and great yeah yeah but she um afterwards she told me she was like oh i took my shoes off as soon as i saw her get up and she had heels on and i was like yeah that's like because not everybody knows like what's what and people always try to say that you know they would you know do their do what they gotta do oh i would i would have gotten it's like because not everybody knows like what's what. And people always try to say that, you know, they would, you know, do their do what they got to do. Oh, I would I would have gotten it's like, no, you wouldn't. Most people are not going to do that. Also remind me of one time I was in Arizona and this white girl was getting so mad at everything I was saying.

Everything I was saying, she finally got up to leave. And I go, oh, my God, you know, you're just a drunk white girl. Like, you know, whatever, whatever. And she was like, oh, my God, that's so offensive that you would say that. I was like, what? That you're drunk? And she was like, no, you have to bring race into it. And then what was the best part was I look over, there's been a, there was like this older white guy who hated my whole set. Didn't laugh at a single joke. He literally just sat there, but he wasn't rude about it. He just sat there with his arms crossed, like, ugh, I want this night to be over. And I looked at him and I go, sir, is it offensive that I called you a drunk white girl?

And he goes, no, that's what she is. And I was like, see, if this man who has hated me all night agrees with me, like, you know you're in the wrong lady. It's just you never know what to expect. it's just you never know what to expect and daniel's right you know exactly what you look like is going to determine a how you are accepted or rejected and also how you choose to deal with these scenarios because even in like that festival saying me and one comic he's gay and white and and he was not trying to adjust his set and we were both like having the worst time and then there was a black comic who was like no you just got to entertain every like he was fine entertaining these people and he didn't care you know that he kind of had to adjust his set um he like happily did it and that's the thing everybody deals with it how they're going to deal

with it there's no right or wrong like you know i always think about too like comics who are single or unmarried or no children you're way more willing to risk all kinds of shit like when you got a kid and a husband or a wife or whatever like you're like no i gotta make this money i gotta pay these bills i got a mortgage i got a mouth to feed like the mentality is very different and and again not that's not true for everyone but i know that i know that there's a lot of comics who have fucking done shit they don't want to do because they're just like i gotta feed my kid literally gotta feed my kid yeah yeah yeah that's a really good point about those of us

who are you know just built like a brick shit house and like nobody will fuck with us like that it's easier for us right jack are you serious right now you're the worst host no you that uh have you guys noticed a a change at all though like do you do you feel like it's different than it was even pre-pandemic i mean mean, I think pre-2016. I think there's a lot of times there's just a vibe of sometimes even the people

who are going to agree with every single left-leaning point slash joke, hopefully, right? That should be all caps. Joke that I'm going to make. Even they sometimes will tighten up

because they want to be in a group with everybody laughing and they want everything to go well. And they're certainly not excusing anybody who's on the other side of any fence or line or wall or whatever, but they're saying you can feel sometimes I'd be like, Oh, don't split us up. Like,

I don't, I don't like, I don't, cause I don't want to have to deal with this asshole that I just, the person next to me who I'm about to find out is an asshole. And until then, I didn't know that. But, you know, if I've learned anything from, like, comedians pontificating on Twitter, it's that I need to challenge you all the time. And I need to take you through an abandoned amusement park of broken glass.

So that's what I'm trying to do. No, I just, I think it's just everybody's a little bit tighter. No matter what side they're on, they can just be a little bit tighter of like that hope and marcel you might know speak to this better than me too but that hope of like when you can when you are taking an audience where like i don't know some of you are going to agree with what i'm going to say and some of you might agree with me and get tensed up because the person next to you is not agreeing but you can feel that like that feeling of oh i hope this payoff is so funny and when it is they're like so relieved so relieved because everything is just socially just fucking tense

yeah i mean yeah and that that's true that's always been true and that's like depending on you know i i like i said i have opened for felipe many, many years. And his audience is predominantly Latino, probably predominantly machismo mentality. And there's a joke that I did actually on 2 Dope Queens, season 2, episode 3, I believe. And I talk about loving rap music. I say, I'm a feminist. And people, when I would just say that, they would turn on me right in that moment. You can feel it. You can feel it.

Here we go. Here we go. And then I would just say, oh, I love love rap music and i go into this whole act out and by the end of it they're fucking with me and it worked damn near every time and i loved it and it was the payoff was always worth it but now i'm now i'm in a scenario where i'm like oh like because i was when i was working that out that was back when i was just a feature now i'm headlining and like i'm i am trying to dab to dabble in what do I really want to say? How much do I want to push it? But also, I do want to make people laugh.

Unlike some of these collector comedians, the joke should be the priority. And making people laugh is a priority. And if you're a good joke writer, whether you're the left or the right, you should be able to construct a joke that will get people to laugh by the end of it. And I think part of the problem too is that sometimes audiences want to be offended. Like right-wing people will come to a show and they'll be like, oh, woman, she's gonna complain about being a woman.

It's like, yeah, but I should. Like, that's okay. And if I'm good at it, you will enjoy this joke. And, you know, and that's, you know, for whatever people's background is, it's the same thing. It's like, if i'm good at it you will enjoy this joke and you know and that's you know for whatever people's background is it's the same thing it's like if the jokes are good then you should be able to enjoy it but i've i fucking got a round of applause this weekend in tacoma shout out to tacoma it's this joke that i always get people fucking tightening up i had to switch the ending because i needed to explain to people like, I'm not the bad guy in the story.

This guy in the wheelchair is like he's a dickhead, you know, but because they hear wheelchair, they're just like, oh, my God, this is offensive. Yeah. And it's both sides, always both sides. So I had to change the joke and it worked. But what was funny was in Tacoma, I didn't have to do that second part. They were fucking like, yeah, that guy's a fucking prick. We are with you. Got a round of of applause and i still i was like shocked i was like oh my god they fucking got it and i was like what happened in tacoma that all these people got this joke without the little buffer at the end you never know what to expect with an audience never i know i'm but

i guess same as plug, but you just made... Like, I'm about to start my tour back up, and I'm doing the Pacific Northwest. So now I'm way more excited to do Seattle and wherever. That was a blast. You know what it is, too? Some cities that love comedy, they are even more excited than ever to watch comedy. Like, one of the best audiences i've ever performed for are the troops overseas those motherfuckers are just happy to have some touch

of home like whether they agree with you or not they don't give a fuck they're just so even i bombed and they were like thank you for coming out here usually if you bomb everybody knows after the show nobody wants to look you in the eye but they were like came and shook my hand and honestly there's a lot of places right now that that's what it feels like people are just so fucking happy to be out of the fucking war zone and be out and enjoying themselves and having a laugh and i feel like people i think comics are getting away with a little bit more than before, but that's because audiences are just having more fun. Oh, wow. To end on a positive note, Jack.

Yeah. I mean, that's how you fucking co-host a podcast right there. Let's take it into a break, and we will be right back to talk about Super Bowl dips. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.

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Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wait, can I do the and we're back? Yeah, do it. But leave this in.

Okay. And we're back, Jack. Damn. I did it. I did it. I always wanted to do that. we're back jack uh you that was so much better uh than when i do it i know you're so dead inside and out come on jack oh man i can't work with none of this i don't know it's super bowl or something maybe that is that that that

sentence perfectly sums it up in Los Angeles. I don't know. It's Super Bowl or something. That's so true. They're going to, for a third week in a row, have a home game where they have no fans in the stadium. People keep being like, can you believe it? It's the first time that the city hosting the Super Bowl

is the team playing in that Super Bowl. And I'm like, yes. And it couldn't have happened to a city where they care less yeah yeah i mean it hasn't like it's in troy and the lions are going to the super bowl or minnesota and the vikings are going or you know phoenix and it's arizona did it last year and so we saw that that what that looks like when the town that's hosting it actually cares about the team that's in the game. And you are not going to see that this year, unfortunately, for the Rams. When they would pan around that 49ers game, it was way more 49ers fans than Rams fans. And also, fine. Who cares?

You know what it needs to be filled to? People who are happy to be there, who aren't going to fight with each other over about it. That's it. That's the two rules. I want you to be happy to be there, and you don't going to fight with each other over about it. That's it. That's the two rules. I want you to be happy to be there, and you don't need to fight someone. No one from the team is going to come out and pat you on the shoulder after you put someone into a coma and go,

hey, even though we lost, or hell, even though we won, it really doesn't feel complete until you beat up somebody in the stands or the parking lot to prove that... Also, I always love, I say this all the time, when players get done and they you know what they do then because one like marcelo said millionaires right they hug each

other yeah because it's over right because and they were actually playing the fucking game so i just want everybody in the stands to be happy to be there and not bring any sort of violence into it and they're usually not drunk yet. Hot take. My big hot take. The difference between the players and the fans. I just love that sports is so out of control that we're just like, I just don't want violence at this game. Sports fans are lunatics.

Have been. I never get that part of it. Like I said, I don't like hating stuff. My fandom is never contingent on feeling negative about anybody else. It's just not the way you have me and you have nothing in common, Daniel. Here's what the Super Bowl should be about. I would personally if I were offered a ticket to the Super Bowl, I don't think I would want to go because I like I feel like it is a TV event. And part of that, it's not just watching the commercials, which are so funny, you guys, but the food is a big part of that.

Specifically, I feel like dips are a uniquely American culinary, like not that America created the dip or dipping chips in something, but this type of, you know, it's almost exclusively ingredients from a can in a lot of cases or largely very salty, mostly chemicals. I get excited about this. Me too. And so the takeout, probably our number one source on the Daily Zeitgeist, the fast food blog, the takeout, did a map of the top dips by state. Like the most uniquely searched game day dips. I guess it's a Google Trends thing. But they wrote an article about it. And there's some interesting stuff.

I mean, you know, you've got your seven layer dip. Seven layer, very popular. In Alaska and Hawaii. They've just found out about this. Also Massachusetts. But like jalapeno popper dip is California's most... Oh, that sounds good. I mean, I'm getting cream cheese.

I'm getting jalapenos. Have you never had a jalapeno popper? No, I've definitely had my pops. Yeah, I haven't either. Wait, have you never had a jalapeno popper? No, I've definitely had my pops. Oh, okay. But I got my pops. But I've never had the dip. Yeah, I've never had the dip either. Now I'm like, ooh.

Illinois is also the jalapeno popper dip. I've never even heard of this before you just said it. Me neither. Me neither, and I'm into it. The other one that's incredibly popular that I'm actually not as into is just the sound of it. I don't think I've ever had it. Buffalo chicken dip. So good.

It's so good. Oh, my God. Why wouldn't it be good? There's something about chicken in a dip. Maybe I just need to. Bro, that's a fucking whole meal on a chip right there. That's what that is. So the chicken is just like kind of ground up

or what's the shredded you're shredding that chicken i've never even had it and i'm like i'm in it's yeah it's gotta be shredded chicken think of it think of it if you could if you did like buffalo chicken nachos right you wouldn't think much of it in that context so just take everything that isn't the show and put all the notch to the side and that doesn't actually check out what i just said but you're just dipping the night you're it's a deconstructed i'm with you not sure even though your logic is a little lost it's like yellow jackets is it there is it not there you know i'm with you it's a good it sounds like a good dip right it's a meal i like a dip that has like a meal component to it yeah you got your carb you got your protein you got your whatever the fuck

else did oregon think did oregon i'm looking at the state of oregon french dip did they just think it was a sandwich i don't think oregon knows no i i blame i i blame google trends for that i think whoever was on the map creation at google trendss was just assuming that that was like French onion dip and didn't realize that they were doubling up both French onion dip searches and the sandwich French dip. Greek layer dip in Washington. I've never heard of that. And I will 100% eat it unless it's heavy olive. Not much of an olive guy. I love olives.

It's got to have olives in it. It's got to have the Kalamata olives. That's what's got to make it Greek. Can we talk about Oklahoma and what the hell they're doing? Yeah, chocolate chip cookie dip. Chocolate chip cookie dip. I'm sure that's good, but don't put that with the rest of my dips. That's for later.

I disagree. Guys, I don't like all this negativity about these dips. Chocolate chip cookie dip i'm fully on board with that one yeah that means you but not with the other dips what do you mean you got a dessert to go with your others dips you would put buffalo chicken dip on the same plate as your chocolate chip dip and alternate i would daniel fuck would, Daniel. Fuck yeah, I would. You don't know me at all. Don't ever take that tone with me on my podcast. Uh-oh. I knew this was going to happen.

How about... He's banned. He's banned from the show forever. How about New Mexico? How about New Mexico? Smart. You changed the subject quick. I'm easily distracted.

Oh, I'm good. I'm good. When everything's getting tough for me personally, I just deflect about pizza dip is that on the taco dip i don't know what that means i don't know what state that is because i don't know states but pizza dip is in there crab rangoon dip i do love a good crab dip and i just like anything with cream cheese i mean that's what most of these are yeah that's that's like, yeah, I will. Yeah. I mean, I have a dairy allergy and I like to make exceptions. Super Bowl is one of those days where I make the exception.

We have nachos. We have dips. Get that lactate. You will be entering the tushy contest, but you will not be winning. Yes. Yeah. I mean, maybe not. You know, like if you get a nice good pile

like the TP pile, like what you guys were saying. Yeah, put a little flag in the top of it. Yeah, you could. I could. You never know. What do you guys think a hoagie dip is? I don't know. What state is that? That's up there by Connecticut.

That's got to have like that's got to be real fresh hoagie dip. You fucking have like layers of turkey Vermont. Is that Vermont? That's got to be real fresh. A hoagie dip. You can have layers of turkey and mayo and lettuce. So there are two that seem to be intentionally mysterious. Missouri has green dip, which I think is what the Joker fell in when he turned into the Joker. And then Corn Dip feels... Where's Corn Dip?

Corn Dip is South Carolina. Which just... And some of them are very... Maybe I would try it. Yeah, yeah. No, I would try all of these. Like, I am struggling. I don't know why my initial instinct, probably because I'm a hater, was to immediately go to, like, which of these do I like the least?

Because they all look fucking awesome to me. Crab Rangoon Dip. You know what? I had to tell my mom. Finally, she's on board with me. You got to stop comparing foods. You got to stop comparing them, Jack. You got to respect them for what they are.

Enjoy them for what they are. Just like that chocolate chip dip. Yeah, I could live next to the buffalo chicken dip. serve their purposes guys you can't be comparing foods pizza isn't better than tacos is better than cheeseburgers they're all good on their own y'all this is the problem we have in our society too much comparing what are your favorite things to dip like i'm a straight up corn chip i'm not crazy about like i i feel like pretzels should be better to dip like i'm a straight up corn chip i'm not crazy about like i i feel like pretzels should be better to dip but for some reason i don't love them as much like i love cheese on pretzels that's one of my favorites yeah they're too thick and they like by getting them wet that

like adds a thing to it that i don't i don't love yeah because that top layer gets soggy really quick yeah yeah yeah i mean i love a tortilla chip yeah yeah it's good you go scoops or you of. Yeah, because that top layer gets soggy really quick. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love a tortilla chip. Yeah. You go scoops, or you go on classic restaurant style, or you go on rounds? You know, if I have a choice, I like to get the strips, because you get a nice

long dip in there. Right at the end, you get a little chip. That means your technique is off the charts good. Because I gave up on strips so long ago. Because they can, like, even when I'm fucking having some salsa, they usually break on me. The leverage. Yeah.

But, yeah, I think I'm just too excited about dipping the chip in the salsa. Yeah, the Hulk over here. You know what I love? It's one of my favorite dips. it wasn't on this and i'm happy to give out the very easy recipe to anybody who wants it's so simple it will crush any party you have to go to get some rouse you can get whatever you like but rouse is the way to go rouse just straight up tomato sauce and a and a block of goat cheese. Bake that and then just stir that up. And then this is one of my favorite things.

Any dip that incorporates this, then you just want to cut some little crostini, little baguette, and you just got like a small little piece of bread in that goat cheese and tomato sauce. I'm telling you. That's another one. People will lose it over this.

And you'll be like, easiest thing to make, easiest thing to make, easiest. The Rouse, by the way, I think there are two grocery items that I always over-purchase when I'm grocery shopping and never don't use within like a month. It's Rouse and it's the Green Mountain Medium Salsa is like so fucking good. I like tomatoes. I like a tomato sauce is where I'm coming from. Yeah. I got tomatoes tattooed on me.

Do you? Really? Yeah. That is love. That is pretty cool. I don't want to. I was raised. There's the one.

You can see one right there. Ooh. But I was. My dad had a tomato garden. He had a garden. My mom had a tomato garden. He had a garden. My mom had a flower garden. My dad had like a vegetable garden, but tomatoes were like the main. So I love it.

I'm with you. A nice fresh tomato in the hot sun. It's nice and juicy. Like when you pick it off, it's like soft because it's been sitting in the sun and it's warm. You put a little salt on it. You cut up a little salt, a little burrata and some basil. Oh, damn. I'm just saying the whole tomato outside a fresh one even that yeah like eating it like an apple my favorite so all right what last question kind of unrelated to dips but this is a celebration of like potluck

style culinary creations like is there a one of my friends makes a hash brown casserole that is near the top of my list of the best things i've ever put in my mouth there's this thing in that i think is from southern ohio or maybe i just had it a lot when i lived in southern ohio but it's called a buster bar do y'all have y'all ever fucked with a buster Bar? No. It's like an Oreo cookie crust and melted ice cream and fudge and peanuts. It's really, really good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure it exists elsewhere and just by another name.

Yeah, yeah. I recommend. Oh, you know what? I do got to give a shout out to the lactose people who aren't gonna do what i do and risk it all for some nachos the miyoko's brand cream cheese add a little vinegar you have your you can just mix it up in there and then you basically have a sour cream and then i mean they have different flavors and shit so if you're vegan and you want like a dip just for yourself get the miyoko's brand it's the best dairy-free brand of everything. Cheeses and cream cheeses and butter and stuff. And just add a little vinegar.

Make your own little sour cream dip for your ruffles. Okay? That's awesome. Do that for yourself. It's so good. They have a scallion one. That one's really good. That's the thing, too, guys.

In Rochelle, Illinois, I will crush just a big old bag of ruffles and some just store-bought French onion dip. Yeah, yeah. Ugh. The only thing you got to do is open a bag and open a lid. Done. The party started. That's what I was snacking on before I got on with you guys. I had my little chicharrones and my Miyoko's dip, and I was dipping them in there.

It's the best. There you go. It's the best. Well, speaking of the best, it's been wonderful to have you both on the show today. Daniel, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You know, there's two things I want to plug, and that would have to be my podcast, Pen Pals, with Rory Scovel. People send us letters, and then we write them back in audio form.

It's their podcast. We just talk about it. If you thought I was mildly entertaining, check out and see if I'm any better over at Pen Pals. It drops every single Wednesday. Full episodes drop on Friday on my YouTube channel. We've had great guests like Andy Samberg and Will Ferrell. And I forget, we have Amy Mann coming up.

It's just a really, really fun show. And sometimes it's just the two of us. It's great. And I hope people check it out and listen to it. It's called Pen Pals. And then I'm going back on tour, really fun show. And sometimes it's just the two of us. It's great. And I hope people check it out. And let's do it. It's called Pen Pals. And then I'm going back on tour, like I said. So March 1st, I will be in Bend, Oregon.

And then the next night I am in Portland, Oregon. And then on the 3rd, I am going to be in Seattle. And then on the 4th, I am going to be in Salem, Oregon. And then I'm going back up north to close out this run on the 5th on Saturday in Mount Vernon, Washington. So go to danielvankirk.com. Over the next few weeks, I'll be announcing other runs and other dates like in the Northeast and in the South, Texas, Midwest, back there again, too. So everything's at danielvankirk.com. I hope you check out Pen Pals. Yeah. Are you a fan of the Magnolia soundtrack? Do you?

Yes, of course I am. Speaking of Amy Mann. Oh, man. Oh, my God. Really one of the greats to ever do it. He was like, no, I hate it. No, that sucks. That's her worst work.

Why? Is Amy Mann affiliated with that? We did a show together in mid-December at Largo. And I know I didn't ask, but I always am like, I just like, please play Save Me. Yeah. And it's perfect every single time. And so is she. She played it?

Wait, did she play it? Yeah. Yes. Oh, wow. I fucking love that song. I know. It's going to take everything in my power when we have her on next week. Pen Pal's recording to not beg her to play it there in studio.

I just, she's so fucking cool. Dude, you got to just like start singing it in your head, humming it. And then she'll be like, oh, is that? And you got to like trap her. How does it go? Trap her, bro. I'm going to record. How does it go?

Yeah. You're like, here, see if you think this is better or Tom Cruise's rendition from the movie. You're like, here, see if you think this is better Tom Cruise rendition from the movie. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes, for sure. I've also been, as I might have come through when we were talking about comedy, I've also been liking things where it's like, you're not asking anything of me too much. We need safe places where nothing happens, like driving around.

So, at LAMag on Twitter, Los Angeles Magazine, much we need safe places where nothing happens like driving around so at la mag on twitter los angeles magazine i don't know if they're currently embroiled in some sort of dumb shit thing if they have a sorry but um they've been tweeting out just like pictures of la like randomly or most nights and they're just like good night la and uh they tweeted out one on 2 7 22 that is just a shot down fairfax with canters on the right the sun setting and palm trees and you just see pictures like this everyone's well and you're like that's fucking gorgeous and it didn't didn't hurt anybody so i'll show you guys that's that photo oh yeah just stuff like that i like it i think it's gorgeous has been fucking up but yeah i was right right they have you have yeah yeah okay well who's ever running the photo part of their twitter

right seems to be okay photographing la is like yeah there's just moments where you're like driving on the fucking highway and you look over and you're like oh my god when you're on the 134 californians here but when you're on the 134 people Californians here, but when you're on the 134, people know you're kind of in Pasadena heading towards LA. Yeah. And you're up like on the side of a mountain looking out over the city and the sun. If you catch that when the sun is setting but not in your eyes, you're like, oh, I'm in a postcard. Right. Yeah.

It's pretty wild. I'm in a postcard right now. So, yeah, I just, I loved that. Yeah. But the weather sucks. That's the one. Oh, wait. No, it's great.

Marcellalla where can people find you and follow you you can follow me at marcella comedy across all social media and most importantly i will be at the san francisco punchline february 16th through the 19th please come out come see me and i'll have other dates coming up too but that's the most important and that's the shit I want you to come. Do it. Zite gang. Jack,

Jack, where can people find you? Uh, no, it's your turn to tell people a tweet or some other work. I didn't fucking look one up. Oh, that's all right.

I forgot. Jack, where can people find you? Oh, that's such a great question. Thank you so much for having me, Marcella. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien a tweet I've been

enjoying like the fact that we made it through this episode like it as we're recording this the 76ers just traded Ben Simmons for James Harden and that's it's a I don't

love like I'm not over overjoyed but I've just been enjoying a lot of Sixers fans responses. Blake Wexler, frequent guest on the show, said this feels better than when we killed Bin Laden. That made me laugh. And just enjoying that, happy that the Simmons era, I think he's going to be in a better place. I think the Sixers will be in a better place. Everybody wins. And you can find us on Twitter, at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin doing double duty has been

just giving the fire song recommendation for the past couple weeks. Justin, what is a song that you think people should go check out? Thanks, Jack. I'm going to recommend the song Colors by Frisco, Getz, and DEE. You know, artists from across the pond in the UK. Very incredible lyrical content going on here.

They take the Colors pun very, very far in here. But the beat is where this thing really gets me. It sounds like someone made this track while they were smoking angel dust out of the flute in an abandoned home it's yeah it's very dark but it's very enjoyable very bouncy bass underneath this if you have a system in your car you're gonna enjoy how this sounds so this is colors spelled c-o-l-o-u-R-S because they're British. They had to do it. They had to do it to us. With Frisco, Getz, and D-E-E. And you can find that track in the footnotes.

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