The Daily Zeitgeist - … It's Winnie The Trending Pooh, B**** 7/3: 4th Of July, The Act, Michael Madsen, Diogo Jota, Israel

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

In this edition of … It's Winney The Trending Pooh, B****, Jack and Miles discuss the worst 4th of July since the first, the tragic passings of Michael Madsen and Diogo Jota, the shifting public opinion on Israel and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of all right, we got two options here we got. Oh, you thought this was a rabbit. They thought this was a rabbit. It's Winnie the trending poo. Fuck Fourth of July. Exactly. That's one option. Or you could do you could do we will not go quietly into the night.

We will not vanish without a fight. I forgot that those two it opens with a rhyming couplet that kind of sucks Those are called we're going to live on we're going to survive today. We celebrate our indetrendance day Fuck yeah Because that's how we're all feeling right now. Oh hell yeah, dude. Hell yeah I'm so thankful for the slaver our fathers to you know Do that the thing and fireworks and hot dog and firework and hot dog? Yeah, my name is Jack Oh Brian that over there is mr. Miles Gray! I'm hot dog.

I love hot dog. Guys, spiral cut your hot dogs. Just a tip. It is fun. It is fun. You get a sharp knife. Have you ever spiral cut your cucumber? How you say cucumber?

No, how you say cucumber in English? It's pretty fun. Wait, what do you, but I mean, you're not grilling a cucumber, you're just spiral cutting it. No, no, you just spiral cut it, and then it kind of slinkies out. Yeah. Cute. But the hot dog. The kids love it. Go this what you do.

You render a pound of bacon fat down and then you just deep fry these spiral cut hot dogs in this crease. And they're going to get a fucking crispy edge. There's so much surface area that you will that you will perish probably from all that bullshit. We're all, that's what our goal should be this 4th of July. We will not actually, Miles, go quietly into that night. No, we won't. We will not vanish

without a fight. No. I said a hip hop, a hip hop. A hip hop, a hip hop, but you don't stop. Now my name's Bill Pullman or Paxton. Nobody can tell the difference. I can. He's Pullman, right? Yeah, he's Pullman.

Paxton's the one that passed away. Paxton is, I got a little dick, he's pathetic. They're a legend. They're a real legend. You know what I mean? You're gonna shoot me. All right. A lot of bad mean? You're gonna shoot me. All right, a lot of bad shit happening on this July 3rd. First of all, I think they did pass the-

It passed, it passed. FKA, big beautiful bill. Yep, FKA twigs is out here giving $170 billion to ICE enforcement. Countless others, millions will be kicked off of their Medicaid. Snap benefits are also going to be just, yeah, a lot of bad stuff, but hey, at least they extended the Trump tax cuts.

Yeah. Only two people ended up having their shit together. Talk a big game, but as always, they don't really give a fuck about like any of this shit they claim to give a fuck about like the Balancing the budget has always been despite the fact that it's covered as like the only real like true story the only real policy shit by like the mainstream media the Balancing the budget is always complete horse shit and every time anybody gets into office They're just going to spend as much money as they can and if they're Republican, they're going to spend it on enforcing white supremacy. Yeah, the deficit is just something they say when a Democrat is in

power and then they'll maybe say it like this, but it's just like, you know, they're just racists in the end. They're just racists. You know, because trust me, no one was pushing back on like the turbo charging ice and immigration raids. No. It's just like the broader than like, well, what about the deficit? And Lisa Murkowski, my God, you almost you could have done it. You could have done it when it was getting out of the Senate, but you decided to be like,

I had to do what's right for Alaska. So fuck the rest of them. So yep, yep, yep. That's great news, I guess. The other part of that, another thing that's trending around the passage of the big, beautiful bullshit bill is, you know, with the Republicans and Trump, every accusation is a confession. Obviously, Trump has been screaming about how Biden didn't know what, what his administration was up to, who's actually signing this legislation. It was all auto pen. It's all auto pen that he wasn't, he didn't even know what

legislation was happening. Well, every day, I think it's become clear that Trump is not really in control of this administration. Um, like obviously he's the president, but you know, like it's like Russell Vought, the architect of project 2025. He's clearly the one who's in charge of, you know, the governmental dismantling operation. And then Stephen Miller gets to be baby gurbals and act out his like ethnic cleansing, secret police fantasy via quote immigration policy. But now we talked yesterday about Trump can barely answer a straightforward question, even if it's reiterated numerous times.

But now we're hearing, so right before this past, we heard about Republican holdouts and Trump summoned them to the White House. But then there was a bit of a, holy shit, this guy is really senile moment. This is a quote, this is reporting from the outlet, not us or notice, notus.org. Quote, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the comments, the president told Republicans at this meeting that there are three things Congress shouldn't touch if they wanna win elections,

Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security. Trump said that. Yes. And then- In giving a speech to them, talking to them about- Why they need to vote for the big, beautiful bill. That is cutting this Medicaid. Exactly. Then, then one congressman said to Trump quote, but we're touching Medicaid in this bill. Uh,

and then Trump seemed to be confused as to what that was all about. And the one yesterday, just to refresh people's memory was somebody said, so like it was at, uh, when he was doing the opening for his concentration camp in Florida and they said, how long do you expect prisoners to be held here? And he said, what was that? How you say it? What were you saying?

How long do you expect the detainees here to be held? Months, days, weeks? I love it here in Florida. I expect to be here. You know, I like it here. I like Mar-a-Lago. Back in Washington, DC, I like it here. Uh, I like Mar-a-Lago, uh, back in, back in Washington, DC, I do my best. Uh, I live in a diamond. Um, so

the office is like a diamond now, but it was really, it was really not well maintained. So yeah, I mean, that's that literally is what happened. Yeah. He either doesn't know or has totally forgotten that his tax cuts for the oligarchs bill is coming at the expense of people's benefits. But this feels just like another case

of people telling him what he wants to hear and then just doing whatever the fuck they want because he can't really keep a thought straight for too long. Like the alligator Alcatraz thing, obviously a big part of that was giving just a huge distraction to the media so Trump cancatraz thing, obviously a big part of that was giving just a huge distraction to the media so Trump can do his thing, but also in line with what his policies are.

But this took a lot of attention. Like, alligator Alcatraz, but when you look at how slap dash the thing was put together, like it couldn't even handle normal Florida weather. It feels like this thing was like, okay, he wants that, let's build it, let's just get it done.

We can move on and we'll send some people there and we can just go to his next weird fantasy. And he's treated like an easily distractible child. Right. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. And anyone who has had family or friends that have gone through like cognitive decline,

like dementia or something like this, you know that this is not going to reverse and suddenly he gets better. It's only going to progress. So at that point, like on the lighter end of the spectrum, is it like when the when he sees polling again, when this bill is passed, he's like, what the hell is this? Why are they so mad at me? What happened to Medicaid? And he's going, what the hell is this? Why are they so mad at me? What happened to Medicaid? And he's gonna lash out at his staff

or is it gonna be something like he orders a, like SEAL Team Six to raid a McDonald's that he thinks his dad's ghost is residing in or something. And he's like, he's gonna get it back now. Why not both? Poor Kana-Lostos, Miles. Yeah, I don't know. Just wanted to point out that this is very,

don't tell mom the babysitter's dead White House edition where it's like this. Well, the fucking Democrats had that lab before they had a whole administration with a guy who was like asleep at the wheel and they used it to do fucking nothing, right? They were like, well, what does he want? Because they don't have convictions to fucking like do, you know, like it was just like, yeah, we're, they, they could have taken the opportunity when Joe Biden was suffering from dementia and

didn't know what the fuck was going on to actually pass legislation that would fuck him in the long run, but would like actually help people. These people don't have the sort of insatiable desire to create more equality in the country. They say that. No. But it's when you look at the people on the right and their pursuit of like a white ethno state. Yes.

They're not fucking around, especially with Laura Loomer's making claims like, oh, there's going to be 65 million meals for the alligators. Quick Google search, Latino population, United States, 65 million. You're like, okay, uh-huh, mm-hmm. Jesus. That's what I'm like, it's not immigrants at all. It's the idea that white people are, like this should just be a white place.

Yeah, that's what they're doing. They'll figure out new ways to categorize people on how they need to be non-citizens. And I think that's why it's more important than ever to be fucking really talking about this and pushing back at every opportunity you have. Yeah, Democracy Now just reported the story of an American citizen.

I mean, this just keeps happening. American citizens being grabbed by men in masks, no outward uniforms. And then when people contact the Department of Homeland Security to be like, okay, where are they? They're like, this story is a hoax, but we don't have a record of that person in the system. So it's like, oh, so they were actually kidnapped. And then it's like, oh, no, it's just like we're accidentally arresting people because they just happen to be brown and in the place where we're doing a raid, AKA like where they're going to work. Right.

But I don't know if it's a person going to work who's not white. Yeah. How do we know, you know? Sorry. The wrong place at the wrong time is fucking everywhere right now for anybody who has brown skin. Yeah.

But that's why we gotta wear our masks, man, because people are hitting us and stuff. It's really unsafe out here being an ICE agent as they fucking cry about the, the assaults on ICE officers is increasing. I do like, I really think they're going to try and fucking arrest Zora and Mom Donnie. Like Trump is saying- I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, like he's like, we can't have communists in this country.

I'll protect New York. And also was saying like, then we'll have to arrest him. Look, we don't need a communist in this country, but if we have one, I'm gonna be watching over him. A lot of people are saying he's here illegally. We're gonna look at everything. So like straight up, he's just going to arrest him.

Like I don't like I know that's illegal, but that certainly is not stopping them anywhere else. I think. Yeah. I don't know when that would, I feel like he would have to get into office or a bee on the precipice of that. Yeah. Versus right now.

But I, but yeah, I don't think it'll be anytime soon, but I do think that's eventually where it's going. That's definitely a, yeah. And the narrative arc of where this goes, I feel like on some level. Yeah. Cause there's also Christie no to do the most provocative thing. Like they're doing the most out in the open provocative thing because I think they want to start like the thing in, in LA where like there was, you know, people pushing back that that's what they, they want to start a civil war because then they can declare martial law and suspend democracy, which seems to be the plan. Like I think they're going to do like whatever the worst, most offensively like anti-democratic

thing that you could possibly imagine. I think they're gonna do that because they want to be able to call it, claim that they need to institute martial law. Yeah, I mean, Christine Noem also said something pretty chilling about how she's like, oh, there are powers that the Department of Homeland Security has that we've barely explored yet

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The actor from Reservoir Dogs, Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs, who's just found in his home, passed away of what they appear to be natural causes in Malibu. He seemed to be struggling, man. Yeah, he seemed like he was struggling for a while. It was very, very difficult. And then also the footballer, Diogo Jota, who plays for Liverpool and the Portuguese national team along with his brother, they passed away in a car accident.

Oh, Jesus. And it's like, you know, like when an athlete dies and you're really into a sport, and even if they're not on your team, it's just like, you know, because you see them play, you have this sort of not a parasocial relationship necessarily, but some connection to it. This guy was 28. He just got married a few weeks ago. He just won a Nations League trophy with Portugal. He just won the Premier League with Liverpool, like for all intents and purposes, was having like one of the greatest years of his life

and then dies tragically in a car accident. Just really fucking awful, awful shit. And life is- Horrible, man. We are all hanging by a thread. And yeah, just, I don't know. I'm very upset by it. It's just really fucked up, man.

Especially when you think too, like when you think of professional, it's like, oh man, this guy's like, this guy's doing it all. And you're like, this guy's fucking young, he's 12 years younger than me. You know, and the life that was ahead of him, leaving three children behind.

It's horrible, man. It's so, so devastating. So I just wanted to just to bring that up because it's a really, really sad, sad story. Yeah. All right,, sad story. Yeah. All right. Another sad story, American contractors, US contractors guarding aid distribution sites in Gaza

are basically committing war crimes using live ammunition and stun grenades on hungry Palestinians, like trying to get food. This whole joint venture of the aid stations being ran by the US and Israeli like companies forces, it's just it's ended with they're just killing innocent people. Yeah. And now it's wild, too, because like this story came out because one of the guys who works for this company spoke to the AP to be like, people are fucking like doing whatever they want.

Like it just feels like they're just have people that are unqualified, as they said, unqualified, unvetted, heavily armed and seem to have an open license to do whatever they wished. Pete Slauson Jesus Christ. Chris Bounds Which is really horrifying as if like the optics weren't even like more against what is happening there. I mean, just objectively, because what is happening there is an ethnic, just a case of genocide. But it seems like, you know,

also with like Zoran's win, the going hard on people that stand up for Palestinians, it's not quite hitting the same way it was maybe 18 months ago. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like there I there there was this segment on CNN that they're like new stats guy Harry Enton, who used to be on 538 podcast, was talking about the shift in support. Basically, in 2017, they polled Democrats,

who are you more sympathetic to, Israelis or Palestinians? And Democrats at that time, 2017, so this is like into the Trump administration, sympathized with Israelis by a 13 point margin. They asked that same question this year and Democrats sympathize with Palestinians by 43 points. Jesus. A 56 point shift. And then if you ask people, Democrats who are, you know, under the, I think the demographic was like 18 to 49. So like people who are not old.

Right. Right. Right. And that shift was used to be Israelis by 14 points and now as Palestinians by 57 points. That's a 70 point shift. Yeah. Yeah. Because, yeah, because people have like, that's the thing is like a lot of the media narrative has been like, well, but this is not what Americans believe or this is unpopular or this is. And it's just like, no, everybody has, everybody's able to see what the fuck is happening here. It's not, it's just entrenched moneyed interests that are trying to stop people from saying what they're seeing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're just also looking at that Mamdani race.

Like there was a ton of money being spent against him, right? And it did not like he still do shit Cuomo the fuck out and even down ballot. There were other races where APAC and other like pro Israeli groups were trying to to get people who deign to say, stop the fucking violence in Gaza out of office. And they failed there too. Their usual attacks are just not ringing the same way. And I think it's the same way how when you look at a lot of Democrats who are running, who are on this old way of doing things,

those messages were just in a new era. And I think everyone's kind of realizing, like, what the fuck you supposed to say now? Like, I used to be able to be like, we're going to stop crime. And people like, what the fuck you talking about, man? Like my I can't afford to live. Talk about that. Like, I don't give a shit about this other stuff. I'm about to start doing crime because I can't afford shit. Yeah. And this is it's it's definitely we're seeing a weakening.

But there is a piece in Jacobin talking about how like, well, there's definitely this obviously projected strength that comes from groups like APAC. When you look at their record, it's not that they win every time they put money in. And I think along with like the sort of public sentiment around Gaza, it just shows that things are just not quite what they used

to be in terms of just like lobbying attacks at people and thinking that that's just going to do it and be like, this guy's Muslim. Sure. Maybe if this was 2005, someone would be like, oh, but now you're like, this guy's Muslim. You're like, oh yeah. Like Rami Youssef, I like that guy. Oh, like other people I know, what's the problem? It's not just, it's not, not for,

I mean, there are plenty of people who are like, oh, what? Yeah. But that's not the- I mean, I think it's recently is like 2017. Like that's, those numbers are from 2017. Like that's, you know, I think things have shifted like very drastically,

very quickly. Yeah, yeah. But it's not, I mean, they're not going down without a fight. The University of California System is making a law saying that student governments are banned from boycotting Israel So you can't boycott. Yeah, uh-huh. Oh, wow. We're gonna make you spend money On why can't I do this? Oh because we were we were paid to put this in our bylaws. Pressure straight doing it.

No, that's that's really a good way to win people over. Because it's objectively the right thing to do is tell fucking student affinity groups that they can't. Cool. Yeah, so they'll keep pushing. But I like the tide has completely shifted. They're not stopping this as long as there's just continued slaughter of innocent people over there. And I don't, I don't see it changing. And I feel like the Zoran race is going to wake a lot of people up,

but it's going to have to be happening against the push of like the democratic establishment. You know, they're not gonna be learning this lesson anytime soon. Although Kirsten Gillibrand did apologize. Oh damn. Yeah, yeah, she was like. Wow, big news. Yeah, big news.

New York Senator says sorry for the global jihad. That's how they were. That's how like the, you know, the New York Times and like center media, center in quotes, media works is like they, uh, issue a correction and regret the error. But like, that's obviously, they're doing that after all of the damage is done. Yeah. Um, and I think even like the governor Hokel,

like even somehow found herself on the right side. She's like, Oh, you shouldn't, she shouldn't be doing that. That's, that's not good smearing somebody. She's like, oh, she shouldn't be doing that. That's not good, smearing somebody. But yeah, apparently she spoke on the phone on Wednesday and said, congratulations, and I'm sorry. Quote, maybe we can set a path to move forward productively. Okay. Then they're acting like they're fucking,

like they're working with a far right group and not like the person who should be showing them the path forward for the, like maybe we can like, that's the same statement that they issue when like Donald Trump wins. Yeah. No, seriously. Maybe we can like work together productively. I'm sorry. Is he one of your ops? I mean, if we're keeping it a hundred, yeah, he is, he is one of your ops? Yeah, I mean I get if we're keeping it Yeah, he is he is one of our ops because we're here to protect the status quo But maybe there is a way that we can

Find a way to but it's gonna have to be all you know People driven it came it's not gonna be any of these institutions. They're all gonna be fighting it like it's a fucking cancer, you know, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep Hey Huh? Happy 4th of July. Hey fuck 4th of July 4th of July what what a great clip that was even more on point than I even realized at the time It's just when they say it's Winnie the fucking poo fuck the fourth again. I Can't emphasize enough how Important this clip is to our culture. Thank you Just broadly and and everyone on the internet everybody who loves a rabbit or loves fourth of July. This is

this is really the only way and I gotta play it again because this is the only sound that we should be hearing on the fourth July yeah again this comes from hitting like grab a fucking funny bitch it's fucking Winnie Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck Fourth of July. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Fourth of July. Have a good Fourth of July. Yeah. Have some good time.

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