The Daily Zeitgeist - Ivanka Trump Come On Down, DARPA But For Cancer? 1.24.22

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

In episode 1069, Jack and Miles are joined by superfan and podcaster Kristi Yamaguccimane to discuss Trump Financial Investigation: No Surprises, Speaking of Trumps…Jan 6 Committee needs Ivanka to d...o some ‘splainin, Meanwhile in Florida…they’re passing a bill to outlaw white people from hurt feelings…, Remember How Biden Was Going to Cure Cancer? and more! Trump Financial Investigation: No Surprises New York AG says Trump’s company misled banks, tax officials Speaking of Trumps…Jan 6 Committee needs Ivanka to do some ‘splainin Meanwhile in Florida…they’re passing a bill to outlaw white people from hurt feelings… Remember How Biden Was Going to Cure Cancer? Covid, immigration and voting rights: Checking in on Biden's year-one promises Unpacking Biden’s and Trump’s Big Cancer Promises The pitch for a health DARPA Skeptics question if Biden’s new science agency is a breakthrough or more bureaucracy Biden promised to eradicate cancer — where is he now? Listen: The Flower Blooms by TOKiMONSTAFollow: @wapplehouseJortsCenter Podcast Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:52 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 221 episode 1 of our production of iheart radio now this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is monday january 24th 2022 which of course means that it's national peanut butter day had to do it to them. Yum, yum, yum. Not enough for some people. Some people put butter and peanut butter on their toast. That's me. That's what I've been told.
Starting point is 00:02:31 It's decadent. I'm telling you, if you want to feel like peanut butter toast is like a luxury item, put butter on the bread first, then put your peanut butter on it. Well, that is a great idea, and I am, of course, saying that, Miles, because it is National Compliment
Starting point is 00:02:48 Day as well. Thank you so much. I don't actually mean it, but I'm just giving you a compliment. I love your tie-dye sweatshirt. Ha, fuck you, man. Alright, well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Mamas, don't let your babies grow out their mustache.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Don't let them be pickup artists that suck. Make them not look like creepy old fucks, a.k.a. Come a vaccine. Oh, it's just not the same. It is ruined. My cum's not worth anything aka tonight we fear ron he will set your town on fire he's a mean fighter so's his son Liar. He's a mean fighter. So's his son.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Those are three classic AKs. And what we'll get to why I'm doing classic AKs. They're all from Christian Gucci Mane. My favorite, I think, is the We Fear Ron. You know, coming with it after the long conversation about how Ronson must be the name of somebody who was Ron's son. Yeah. Shout out to old timey people naming their kids Ron. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray! never knew my balls were super size now you left me for another guy aka who get taco bell tonight
Starting point is 00:04:49 who get taco bell tonight ate as much as well tonight giving my toilet hell tonight and those are three from at wopple house because you know when you try and search at crispy meme donut that's like that shit is suspended. The fuck you talking about? You cannot see these texts anymore. At Waffle House is the handle. Miles, as those AKs might suggest, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Starting point is 00:05:17 by the author of all of them. That was sort of a medley of some of our favorites. He contributed just the last year or so. He's been doing it for years. A true wordsmith. A great follow on Twitter. You can hear him hosting his podcast, Jorts Center. It is America's stepdad, Christy Yamaguchi May!
Starting point is 00:05:37 Christy! Look at you. I'm about to be very annoying here. Here we go. Okay. I'm about to be very annoying here Here we go Blame it all on my tweets That I'm in the seat Ruining your zeitgeist affair No way to know
Starting point is 00:05:57 I'd be on the show Sitting in the third guest seat chair Should've seen the surprise And the look in my eyes When Anna DM'd Hey, I'm a Gucci man She said, hey, how would you Maybe like to come through
Starting point is 00:06:17 And talk about news of the day Now I called in sick To my workplace I sick to my workplace I lied to my boss, said I'm contagious, need off today But I'll be okay Now I'm not known in most places, but on TDC, I'm real famous cause I got friends in Jack and Miles Gray. Woo! Look at that.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Faded down. There we go. There we go. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you so much. I should have included the voice of an angel in the AKs, but I had to let them find out for themselves. Absolute legend we have on the show. Legend.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You know, Christy, you have been, honestly, I could say one of the many, but a few, the fortunate few day one listeners who would always write in AKs when we started doing that dumb nonsense. Yep. And it evolved. I mean, like, then we saw you for the first time in person at the DC live show. And what was that, February or the end of January 2020, basically? Yeah, it was right before everything shut down. Literally, like a couple weeks, I think. And then I remember when I met you, I said, what's your real name, bro?
Starting point is 00:07:41 That's the first thing I asked you. I have so many, like, I feel like a member of Wu-Tang or a superhero because I have so many AKAs myself. Or Satan. Exactly. Yes. Oh, I have so many names. Yeah, man. I heard an advertisement on the Dan Lebitard show for the Daily Zeitgeist right before it dropped.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And I had listened to the Cracked podcast with show for the Daily Zeitgeist right before it dropped. And I had listened to the Cracked podcast with Jack as the host. And Jack, thank you so much for lifting the restraining order that I got from my days on the Cracked forums. I really appreciate that and allowing me to be on here. You know, you've shown a lot of growth and also your lawyers are just relentless. They really are. Yes, absolutely. Or you're really good at pretending to be a lawyer on email. Yes. Really capture the voice, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So what should we call you? Christy? What would you like us to refer to? Either Christy or Will or Willie. Or a lot of people still call me Crispy from when my original account that got suspended for saying the word redneck on Twitter. Which sounds like I'm joking, but I'm absolutely not. Don't say the word redneck in a reply to a tweet about NASCAR. I found out the hard way.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I fucked around and found out about NASCAR fans. Damn. Because, you know, it's like, yeah, sometimes the term is embraced, but then if they suspect you being some libcuck, then they're going to be like, report this hate crime immediately. Don't drop that with ACAB in your Twitter profile. Yeah, yeah. They'll come for you. Yeah, I mean, Christy Yamaguchi, man, is tough to top. It is a lot of syllables.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Unfortunately, your real name, Willie, is also a very cool name. And I don't know many Willies. I been looking to add a willie in my life so i think i might i might go well then i don't let me be the willie that you add in your life jack thanks i like where this is going i like where this is headed but i feel like it's dealer's choice right we can you know yeah yeah anything this just cycle through them all don't call me late for dinner right that's uh hey there it is call me whatever you want all right willie we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about we're gonna talk about a couple trump investigations there's the financial investigation which is yielding few surprises, continues to yield few surprises.
Starting point is 00:10:08 We're going to talk about a January 6th committee investigation because they released the docs to the January 6th committee and Trump could no longer block them based on executive privilege, I guess. And they want to talk to Ivanka. Oh, so we're want to talk to ivanka oh so we're gonna talk about that we're gonna talk about how speaking of the thing that got christy yamaguchi main band on twitter we're gonna talk about a new law in florida that is uh trying to outlaw white people from getting their feelings hurt we're gonna talk about biden curing cancer all of that plenty more but first before we get to any of that shit willie christy yamaguchi man i think i'm just gonna keep calling you christy yamaguchi man uh we do like to ask our guests i have to mention yeah my mom and some of her friends who listen they think that you are somehow christy yamaguchi oh fuck this is like they have an ear
Starting point is 00:11:07 for the japanese last name and then they're like oh man you have like a yamaguchi song on the show and i'm like mom listen to what i'm saying and i had to i remember over the holidays i had to be like it's a portmanteau of never mind yeah it's christy yamaguchi that's uh anyway go on that's fantastic let's not let's not ruin it Justin, can you edit that part out? Let's not ruin the... My mom will still, if she's listening, it still will fly over her head. Because she's in the middle of tending to her cacti or something. Yes. Gold medalist figure skater Christy Yamaguchi here.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I'm just going to... Yeah, that's what you should call me from now on. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are, sir? Okay, so... Man, sorry, for Miles's mom, man. Oh, yes, yes. Thank you very much. How to scam NFT investors.
Starting point is 00:11:57 There's lots of stories about scams, but not a step-by-step on how to do one yourself, which I feel like somebody needs to write that. So, you know, get in on that money making scheme. Yeah. Come on. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Something you think you could do. I don't know. I feel like, I feel like with enough like Twitter clout, you just hype basically JPEGs up and then take everybody's money and then make off with it overnight. Has someone made an NFT of the pig shitting on its, on its box?
Starting point is 00:12:25 They absolutely should, though. That's like that would be like a weird shit poster. Gold. And yes, it really should. It really should. Every other day, there's a damn story coming across Twitter or Reddit or something about how somebody hyped up a bunch of bunch of JPEGs. And then basically all these investors are stoked about the word decentralized. And then when they get scammed, they're like, we need more oversight on this shit.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And it's like, okay, well, which one is it exactly? Because those are in a direct, you know, contradiction to one another. So,
Starting point is 00:12:56 um, anyway, I just thought it would be cool if somebody would, you know, write like a wiki how on how to, uh, yeah. Rip people off.
Starting point is 00:13:03 You need like someone who i have someone in mind who i feel like who could help us make that like who's you know in the tech world and sure inherently understands all this stuff moves and i'm like please just be really cynical for me with a second yes how tell me like what the process is and i know you're not saying that's what you're into but let's fuck around. Exactly. Exactly. Just, just, you know, just leave it out there on the internet and whatever happens with it happens with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah. Then, uh, the podcast business news network platinum, which is, I feel like I, uh, yeah, I know that's a mouthful, right? Apparently it's a real podcast. I got called up randomly yesterday and asked to be on a podcast, but not because I do podcasts or I'm on Twitter or anything, but because I'm a wedding officiant. And that's why I kind of chose this one was because I do weddings on the weekend, work in a body shop during the week, but I'm a wedding officiant. I do about 30, 40 weddings a year. Holy shit. And yeah, it's a nice little side business. You know, it's something that I get to dress nice and smell good on the weekends and, you know, go schmooze with people.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Uh, it's a cool gig. And, uh, I got called by this apparently real podcast wanting to do like a, an interview, right. And I cannot figure out the exact angle on this thing. Like what, what they're supposedly, I talked to the lady that called me and she said that they make ad rep, you know, when you share your podcast on your platforms and stuff, they get the ad revenue for it. But that was like as much as she would admit to me. So I agreed to do it, which I'm totally not going to, I just let them schedule me and everything. And I'm just not
Starting point is 00:14:41 going to answer the phone when it happens probably. probably uh because i still feel like this is a scam somehow um i'm not i just can't figure out the uh the angle on it so if any of the zeitgang out there listening know anything about the and i'll say it once again podcast business news network platinum which is like the most mlm sounding shit i have ever heard yeah i mean they sound like they'd be able to tell you how to do a nft scam that's actually okay maybe i do need to go on this thing the platinum is the detail that like pushes it over the edge for me absolutely absolutely do you as a serial wedding efficient do you track like metric like how the marriages are going? Do you keep stats on how... Checking back in? How many kids we're working with
Starting point is 00:15:28 here? What my field goal percentage is? What my slugging percentage is? What my slugging would be the number of kids, like how productive the marriages are, and then like how those kids are doing. You know, I should start.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I feel like that's something like a pro football focus. I should like start my own webpage. Like that has, it has all those like box score stats on it and stuff. Yo, these people, I think they are scamming. I'm sorry. They're dropping like six episodes a day. Right. Right. I don't understand what their release schedule is. And it's like interview with the guy who weight loss made easy roadmap. And're like yeah yeah yesterday i listened to a bit of a podcast yesterday and they had the host of like and and nothing against reiki or or any of that stuff like i'm not energy gods out there yeah right exactly but she was talking about how she talks to animals sometimes and she talks to a red finch and found out what was ailing it and she figured out what was wrong with this bird when the veterinarian couldn't and just go
Starting point is 00:16:34 on there and lie your ass off you know just do that create the most surreal reality the wildest shit yeah has anyone done that just a a show that is for gullible people and it's just a series of scams? Just like the place that gullible dipshits go to be scammed. Oh, man. Oh, it's called a genius. That's a money-making opportunity? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Platinum investment opportunities. Platinum investment opportunities. Has to have the word platinum in there. Has to. We've got in there. Has to. We've got Popeye Jones on to talk about his name. What is something you think is overrated? Guys, been waiting to do this shit for five years. So forgive me.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You're going to have to just pick whichever one you want to talk about. We'll say stop. Yes, exactly. Food rules. College football. Wedding traditions, Chick-fil-A, having hair, cult of personalities around politicians and political commentators, boomer musicians selling their entire catalogs to giant corporations, paying your medical bills, movies that start at the theater past 630 because I can't stay awake. I like the... All right, so I'll throw out the ones that jumped out to me. I'm curious
Starting point is 00:17:46 to learn more about why boomer musicians selling their entire catalogs is overrated. I also agree that college football is overrated, so I kind of want to hear that. Miles, what jumped out at you? The no hair, obviously. I mean, we've all heard
Starting point is 00:18:02 that from you. Yeah, but I like to keep hearing it. I want to put that out there. You know what I mean?'ve all heard Heard that from Yeah but I like to keep hearing it I don't want to put that out there You know what I mean Daily affirmation Yeah Absolutely But we already
Starting point is 00:18:11 You're right That goes without saying But yeah I'm curious about the boomer And the Yeah With the hair thing It's just The money you save on haircuts
Starting point is 00:18:19 And shampoo And all that stuff And not having to think about What you're doing with your hair Did you ever used to put shampoo On your bald head Like If I like ran out of the bar of soap Or something like and all that stuff and not having to think about what you're doing with your hair. Did you ever use to put shampoo on your bald head? Like if I like ran out of the bar of soap or something like that,
Starting point is 00:18:34 I'll steal a dab of like overpriced shampoo from my wife's, you know, one of the, I feel like dozen bottles of shampoo and conditioner that's in our shower at any given moment. But that's it. You can't use Bumble and Bumble on your bare skin. I just needed something to cleanse my scalp. Exactly. Exactly. For a while, I remember I would put shampoo on like, what am I doing here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:51 You know, but it's just to remind myself, you know, I can still keep that scalp clean. Absolutely. Absolutely. The Boomer musicians, it's just been this trend lately. And one of my favorite bands of all time zz top just recently did it as well where they they're these classic rock era bands and musicians are selling their entire catalogs to these investment firms essentially not even like other you know media companies but just like they're basically nfts themselves and then these companies get to divvy them up and license them for whatever they want. And there's just like, I had this idea the other day where like,
Starting point is 00:19:31 it would, it would have been super cool if one of these musicians, I feel like if, if, if one of these famous ones like Springsteen or Dylan or something, which this is high hopes for, for one of these, these guys to do this, but one of these catalogs of music could generate revenue for decades and decades and decades, you know, as long as they're protected by copyright or whatever. And I feel like if you set one of these things up in a trust or something to generate money, you could, you know, you could do so much goodwill with your music, with your legacy, all the hope and positive shit that you were singing about in the 60s and 70s and stuff. You could actually do some goodwill with the money that your music makes. But instead, they're just cashing out right here. They're already worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and now they're worth a couple hundreds of millions of dollars more. What the fuck is the point of that so any way that we can get private equity like more involved
Starting point is 00:20:29 yes exactly exactly and just the future of our culture so that like anybody who wants to make a movie with a bob dylan song and it needs to go deal with fucking private equity bros yeah like that's that's good for the culture yeah it's it's fantastic. It's fantastic. Way to go, Bob. Yeah, the problem is that like all these celebrities have, I think I've said this before, but when I'm driving around like LA and I'm like, what the fuck do all these people do for a living? Like in the entertainment industry, I realize, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:01 it's all people who like work in licensing and shit like that. Like there's just massive, massive companies that just like make shitloads of owner of the music they're not the person using the music they're just the middle management company that that gets permission from someone yeah that bullshit jobs genius genius but that's like you know that's how so many people like how people move it's like i can actually create a whole business by just inserting myself in this process and it's unneeded but i'll convince the other person it is. Yeah, yeah. And then what is something you think is underrated? Faking it till you make it. Dating hot single moms.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Being dumb as hell on Twitter. ZZ Top. Small trucks. A good pair of boots. A functioning pancreas. Karaoke. And losing weight to ride a horse. What's that?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Faking it till you make it. I think that is a good life lesson. I think so,. Um, and it's something as I've, I've gotten older, I've realized literally everybody is doing, nobody knows what they're doing at any given moment, particularly when you come into a new chapter of your life. Uh, you know, I think I've, I've heard people on here talk about this thing before, but like when you're little and you look to your parents or adults in your life, you think that they are, you know, possessors of knowledge or answers. And sometimes they are. But as as one now, as as a stepdad to three boys who I've helped raise for a dozen years now, man, we do not know what we're doing. And we are just figuring it out as we go along. And there's nothing wrong with that. You know what I mean? There's nothing wrong with that. It's, it's
Starting point is 00:22:48 literally how anybody does anything as far as I'm, I'm concerned. Now there's some things that you shouldn't fake, you know, like open heart surgery or flying a plane and shit like that. Very important roles in, in, in our, our lives from day to day. Don't fake driving a car until you make it either. That's probably a bad one. I'm on my grind out here performing heart surgery in the back alley every morning. Long haul trucking in my 18-wheeler. Do I know how to use a car with air brakes?
Starting point is 00:23:16 Nope. Let's get this paper this morning, fellas. Yeah. Rise and grind. No, it's true. And also, I think just in general, right, more than like fake it's not really about being deceptive because i think that's that there can be that sort of tinge of
Starting point is 00:23:30 that phrase right until you make it of more just like just be confident in what you're doing and continue to do it because i think to that point it's easy to look at certain jobs or like things you might aspire to do like i remember when i was lobbying and i really wanted to do comedy i was like i don't know man like i just i what was it gonna take to do it and i just had to really back myself really just to be like i want to do this shit i think i'm funny like fuck it like let's just do this shit and i'm gonna walk around like i know what the fuck i'm doing because to a certain extent we do but it's it's about sort of also crossing into that next, like, I guess, emotional phase where you're able to look at yourself and say, no, I believe in what I'm doing. And, and yeah, that's potentially, I'm just emulating other about it, obviously, when you have that confidence. But be humble, but be, you know, confident that you're going to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Eventually you do. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of people who are monsters in the entertainment industry or, you know, very successful people who are, you know, really awful to people underneath them. And I think that's like built on their insecurity that like, Oh no, like I, everybody's going to find out that I'm like, I'm a fraud. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:24:55 no, not nobody. It all just looks better. Like you're comparing your insides to other people's outsides, basically. Yeah. Yeah. And no need to do that.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Cause at the end of the day, it's just, just, just back yourself. That's's and that's really the hardest shit to do because a lot of the time like i don't have all this anecdotal data to suggest that i can do what i'm doing and you won't you won't have that data until you do it so that's like kind of the rub there is like you got to actually start got to take that push to the next phase i remember even starting this podcast i wasn't podcasting before this and i was just like fuck man i don't know what the fuck i'm gonna do and i in my mind i'm like well jack knows what he's doing so based off of that and i had to step up acting like i've been podcasting for a minute and i you know straight up i was like i'm using the confidence of just
Starting point is 00:25:40 jack being like hey i think this could be a good podcast for me to push aside any doubt I had to be like, fuck it, I guess we can do this shit. And the fact that I threw up right before we started recording it every day for the first two years, I was like, no, this is just a stomach issue. It has nothing to do with me being terrified. And I would have my sympathetic gag reflex too.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And I'd go, bro! Jack had to have his teeth replaced, literally. The aneurysm was gone's very, it's pretty bad. Yeah. The same thing with, with me, like when we started George center and Lauer after hours, I'd never done a podcast either. And eventually you just, you know, you pretend like you know what you're doing and then people actually start giving you feedback and tell you they're listening and it becomes a blast
Starting point is 00:26:22 or doing weddings. You know, a friend of mine asked me to do theirs in like 2006 and sure as hell had never done a wedding before. And, uh, they asked me because of my beard, literally, they were like, you look official. That's where to God. That's, that's why they were like, they were like, we like your beard in North Carolina. Uh, yeah. Yep. That's official out there. Like, exactly. You got the beard. I think like, uh, I looked official, but also kind of like a wizard at the beer i think like i looked official but also kind of like a wizard at the time so they just they just asked me to perform their wedding and then other uh friends that were there saw me do that one and then asked me to do theirs and so on and so forth
Starting point is 00:26:57 and now i got a little you know side hustle going so speaking of beard because you do have like a zz top beard and i do you know one of my favorite things about your AK is your taste in music. You have just like a great, very eclectic. Yeah, very eclectic. But it's always the hits that I've heard of. So I don't have to do too much research. Why is ZZ Top underrated? is underrated just because I feel like most people that aren't intimately familiar with their catalog don't realize all the songs that they're familiar with that are ZZ Top. They think it's
Starting point is 00:27:31 like all these different classic rock bands. I've had many conversations with friends of mine who aren't into them as much as I am. And I start naming songs and they're like, wait, ZZ Top does that one? Wait, they do this one? And you just keep they have so so many hits and they lasted over the decades they evolved their sound uh you know they started playing in the late 60s early 70s then when the 80s came you know with eliminator and and they they updated their sound with the synth and stuff and you know some of the the most classic early mtv videos just absurd absurd videos uh that are fun to go back and watch. Um, and Billy Gibbons is just, uh, like one of the greatest guitar players of all time,
Starting point is 00:28:11 but I feel like he's not ever listed in that same tier that a lot of classic rock guitarists are. Right. And, uh, yeah. And, and that's, that's basically why. And also like they, my dad always had a super long beard growing up so i associated them with my dad like i think you know in that little kid brain logic you know like well zz topper my dad's friends like they all look right you know i'm saying like it didn't make a damn bit of sense but uh that's that's that's that's what i told myself at like four years old yeah that was like having a look going into the 80s like was you know i guess lucky like i don't know did did they always have the long beards like before very early
Starting point is 00:28:52 on very early on they uh uh they were clean shaven but basically early 70s they grew out the beards and of course you know frank beard the drummer is the only one that doesn't have one. And he has a, has a classic mustache, but that that's the key to kind of their timelessness is that they've always looked like they were pushing 70 years old because of the dark sunglasses, the super long beards, kind of their, their dress and aesthetic. And so they, you know, into the eightiess their look didn't change the only thing that changed was like the guitars got like neon colored and they wore fur coats and shit and you know kind of had like a synth synth wave vibe to them and then and then all throughout all the decades they've literally it's been hard to tell how they've aged and of course recently uh dusty hill
Starting point is 00:29:41 passed away the bass player so uh r.i.p to him so that they they lost lost dusty i'd say probably like six or seven months ago and uh so yeah that's uh yeah that's uh that's that's why i think that they are underrated everybody should go listen to just listen to the greatest hits you know what i mean and uh and realize and they've got some silly ass songs too they're they've they've always looked the way that they do, but they're singing about like, they're singing about some perverted shit, you know? Like the song Tube Steak Boogie or Pearl Necklace.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Wait, what's that about? I don't get it. What do you mean? Check. This is for off mic conversation. We'll do it in the break. So good having the iconic look heading into the 80s with MTV. Bad for the SEO and listing of bands in your iPod era
Starting point is 00:30:31 with the very last possible name in any alphabetized archive. That's a good point. I've never thought about that, actually. Miles, do you have a singular musician that you are like that's my dad's friend because i have like billy joel i so associate with my dad for some reason i'm just like yeah he's probably they're probably friends they're probably hanging out somewhere when i'm not around i thought my grandfather knew miles davis right because i got this plaque when i was born from one of my grandfather's really good friends that was like this plaque from the album miles ahead and it was like this sort of
Starting point is 00:31:13 presentational miles davis album and it said like two you know miles young miles blah blah blah and then i was as a kid i was like man my grandpa got this from miles davis his friend right yeah so that that was one in the back of my mind i never quite articulate out loud but And then I was as a kid, I was like, man, my grandpa got this from Miles Davis, his friend. Right. Yeah. So that that was one in the back of my mind. I never quite articulate out loud. But whenever I looked, I was like, damn, he knows Miles.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I mean, you're. That's rad. Yeah. You do come from like really cool people who did hang out with great artists. So like probably not the same for you. I had to create a fictional universe where my dad hung out with Billy Joel. You listen to Piano Man and you're like, I wonder which one my dad is. Is he the real estate novelist?
Starting point is 00:31:53 I mean, my Iggy Pop almost killed my dad. I don't know if I've told that story. What? Yeah, that's cool. They lived together for a second. What? Miles, how have you never told that before? Because I say too much shit on this show. I i gotta have some stuff for the book for the nft okay yeah yeah when this all goes off the rails when this all blows up and you're doing the like vh1 behind
Starting point is 00:32:16 the podcast series yeah they'll eventually do you have to bring all stories about my dad yeah those childhood stories. Right. We should have seen this coming. Iggy Pop almost killed his dad. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:34:40 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball
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Starting point is 00:36:28 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And last week, there was a, I guess it was the Attorney General of New York filed a brief basically saying, you know, she's going to keep the investigation into Trump's finances going. She said that there are potentially fraudulent or misleading practices, which I feel like at the time the MSM, the mainstream media was like, he's in trouble. Got him as usual. Yeah. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Like that. I'd say that like my energy for like digging into Trump's finances stories is just like spent. Like, I don't I don't think we're going to get him. I just I think they're trying to go Al Capone with it, though. I think they're trying to go Al Capone with it. was a different era and trump is too like woven in with the fabric of like all of the mainstream finance yeah well just like not mainstream called mainstream like you know robber baron uh new york finance like the like the thing the stuff that is really objectionable in the uh the report is all stuff that is pretty commonplace like you know there's one thing that was like pretty blatant they misstated the physical size of one of his properties like just physically if you go in there with measuring tape and measure it it's like not
Starting point is 00:38:16 it's like half the size that he's complaining for genuinely be stupidity right there's there's no there's no way to know they ask him to ballpark it you know who'd probably give us a honest assessment they're like how big is your home office and what is it uh proportionate to uh the size of like the area you live i'm like i i have a 9 000 square foot home office right uh so that's basically like stealing 200 million dollars essentially but like a lot of the stuff is just you know misrepresenting the value of the company but that like as some articles are pointing out that's also like seen as highly subjective it's like hard to sort of nail somebody on that and it also like feels like the like
Starting point is 00:39:01 wackest parts of the trump hate where it's like one type of rich like neolib person blanching at like the uncouth rich person like I don't know like I'm not like defending him in any way I'm just saying that like this isn't going to change the way anyone thinks about him like what we're gonna find here like everybody assumes he's lying and that he thinks the lying is smart and assuming he gets away with it, he'll kind of be right. The world of private equity, like and, you know, just the wealthy people of the world won't let him go down for this because it is what they all like, what their wealth is all resting on as well. Yeah. Or, you know, you do that thing where you just shove somebody else out into the spotlight and be like, yo, take his ass. Yeah, that's true. Maybe, maybe that'll keep this shit going. Yeah, that's true. Maybe, maybe that'll keep this shit going. It's what happened with Michael Cohen and countless other people in Trump's orbit. And Jack, you're right. As far as the energy for,
Starting point is 00:40:09 for Trump's finances and shit that peaked with Rachel Maddow saying that she had Trump's tax returns for me, you know? And then it was just like, Oh, this, you mean the stuff that's already been publicly available for years? Yeah. That was like, he's never, he's never going to get busted for this shit. He'll just tie them up in court you know with whatever money he has left and uh and just it's it's the the only thing trump really is good at the art of is uh escaping from any kind of culpability or uh getting in trouble
Starting point is 00:40:40 for this shit yeah yeah especially in the world of finance. Yeah. You know, bankruptcy and all that shit. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's a tough one to see. Cause I know there's like, there's also the, the Manhattan DA also has a parallel investigation happening. So, I mean, it seems like for them, it's just like, yeah, I mean, we have all the evidence we need.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Like we also have stuff that says like, you know, potentially that there was like an articulated intent to defraud. But yeah, I don't know. It's just like one of those things where even though the I think Letitia James was like, people cannot just pick and choose which laws they abide by. And it's like, I know they do do that shit. Yeah. Literally happening constantly. Constantly. But that's what I'm like.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, let's I'll believe it when I see it. But yeah. getting out of bed. Constantly. Constantly. But that's why I'm like, yeah, let's, I'll believe it when I see it. But yeah. Now the January 6th committee, on the other hand, like I'm still, I'm still sitting down, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:34 Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif on that one. I'm like, all right, let's see where this one goes. And Ivanka's name is starting to come up. Yeah. And now she's not been subpoenaed, but she's been, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:43 invited to have a voluntary interview to discuss some things. Oh, that'll definitely happen. Yeah. And now she's not been subpoenaed, but she's been, you know, invited to have a voluntary interview to discuss some things. Oh, that'll definitely happen. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Voluntarily. Sure. Snitch on her dad. Yeah, we can see that happening. But, you know, when you look at how this like letter that came out from the committee is like worded, it's all they're saying is like, we know what the fuck happened. Now get in here. And if you want to tell your side of the story, we can do that. But we already have enough testimony from other people as it relates to what happened. So one of the first things, you know, it sounds like there are like three to four big chunks in this letter that they were trying to really get at in terms of what
Starting point is 00:42:16 information Ivanka would have first is that they're saying, quote, as January 6th approached, President Trump attempted on multiple occasions to persuade Vice President Pence to participate in his plan. You were in the Oval Office and observed at least one side of that telephone conversation where people were, you know, where potentially he was talking to Mike Pence. So sort of like, so what did you hear him say to Mike Pence? Because we have staff that have already told us what other people that were in the room. Just do you want to come in and clarify that? Do you want to come in and clarify that?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Second, essentially boils down to this whole thing of like, we also heard that on the day you had multiple requests from people begging you to talk to your dad because it seemed like you were one of the few people who could talk him out of this like coup in progress or at least try and give a statement saying like, all right, let's cool it down, folks. We kind of went. That shit kind of got a little too hot and she's you know she was there saying well what did people ask you because we know what people asked you but what are you going to say people asked you and then finally talking about how during this coup that several people in the white house were you know rebutting questions in terms of like when it came to was the president attempting to hold up the deployment deployment of the national guard was he actively trying to keep any kind of protection elements advancing on the capitol like did he want it to be as vulnerable and have that intent so it's
Starting point is 00:43:37 everything they're saying like they have kaylee mcinerney who has cooperated and and who else mark meadows obviously gave up a ton of information before he's like i'm not actually now testifying i will take a subpoena or a contempt of congress charge yeah that man got his book promoted and that's that's all he was out for i know and then immediately had to be like actually my book's live yep yep but please buy it this is why like very early in his administration everyone was like like, like, even Laura Ingram. No, not Laura Ingram. Who was Laura Ingram before Laura Ingram? The Fox News.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Janine. Janine. Ann Coulter. Okay. Ann Coulter was like, she's like, you can't have your kids in your administration. Like, that's just not done. That's an absurd thing. Worst person you know makes a good point.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Right. But if you're going to commit crimes that this this all goes back to like he was right about like he knew he was going to commit crimes. He knows he knew like that's all he does on a regular basis. That's why you keep people in your family around you because they also have a financial incentive for you not to like be completely fucked so like that i don't know that it's like that strategy paying off that they're like well let's see what avanka has to say it's like she's not gonna say shit like exactly that's why that's why i only do crimes with my stepkids around yeah they know who buys the groceries and stuff they were freeway Rick Ross hell yeah
Starting point is 00:45:10 when he was at the height of his game he was like yo come out here he had family in Texas that came out people know you gotta be able to trust people if you're doing dirt exactly but I think things change though when you got real charges and I think that's the thing we're all waiting for able to trust people if you're doing dirt exactly and yeah but i think things change though when
Starting point is 00:45:25 you got real when you got real charges and i think that's the thing we're all waiting for is like because right now it doesn't look like anything is going to inspire anyone to bite the orange hand that feeds yeah christy by the way what what age do did your sons become like good getaway drivers because my five-year-old fucking is not good. Is he still doing the little Tykes Flintstone car? Is he still trying to get away in that thing? Yeah. He can't reach the pedals.
Starting point is 00:45:55 He sucks at steering. That's rough. Upgrade to a Power Wheels and then you'll have a much better chance. But yeah, I would say probably around like 13 or so. Okay. Get him started on some F1 simulations, simulator stuff, just to get his reaction time up. Or some Gran Turismo.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's not going to, what, Gran Turismo 7 doesn't drop until like March, so, you know, in the interim. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about Florida.
Starting point is 00:46:21 All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about Florida. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.
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Starting point is 00:47:16 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
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Starting point is 00:48:30 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 00:50:18 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and you know florida always leads the way, maybe even more than Donald Trump since January 6th. But so late last year, our boy DeSantis proposed a bill that would allow parents to sue schools if their kids are taught critical race theory. Or even if they suspected it. Yeah. Yeah. And now that logic is evolving into a new bill that it's essentially makes it illegal to make white people feel bad about, like, reality, like anything. An individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, does not bear responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex. An individual should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Facts don't care about your feelings, I thought, though. No, well, come on, we know. Like, come on. There's nothing consistent. This is just amazing that, like, this is, you know, the darling of the right in conservative debate culture and all that bullshit. Ben Shapiro, his whole slogan is facts don't care about your feelings,
Starting point is 00:52:00 and yet this is the epitome. This is the most, like, i don't want to feel bad about anything bullshit that i have ever read it's pretty incredible i mean i think most observers are right to point out that it's like this looks this bill looks like it's tailored exclusively for white people you know i mean like this who is this for because it's obviously you know this is this isn't an actual problem you know or it's more just like the legal equivalent of like sticking your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes and screaming. As a way to like avoid, you know, having any kind of reckoning or self-awareness around history. But yeah, I mean, this is all just sort of part of the same effort to just nullify the concept of discrimination in the hopes that it'll just create more racists without any kind of historical awareness.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah. Like, what does that future look like if they are like continue to be successful and it's a world where you're not allowed to bring up. Like, it's like I'm trying to, like, put it in the context of, like, the future dystopias. It's just, like, not a future dystopia that anyone had really laid out, you know? Like, what is the Florida version of the Watchmen, like, museum? It's like, well, yeah, right? They actually take into account, like,
Starting point is 00:53:22 what happened, like, what's that version? It seems like just in general, they want to set the table energetically to be like, hey, man, everything's all good here. Like nobody's oppressed here. OK. And like if you're bringing that up, like that's bullshit because nobody's oppressed here. Oh, so it just looks like modern America. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. and critical race theory and shit. And like the ability to do this means that it's going to have people just accusing folks left and right. Just, you know, just because they don't like them,
Starting point is 00:54:10 you know, you're pissed at your neighbor because they blew their leaves into your yard. And then you claim that they were talking to your kid about Martin Luther King or the civil rights or some shit. And like, it's just, it's a, that's the future.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Instead of having this like police state where there's like a one in their mind, like, you know, some communist police department that is is coming to your home and and arresting you. It's just everybody is going to be able to point the finger and accuse each other of breaking laws like that seems to be the Republican dystopian future. Sounds like Cold War East Germany. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just everybody like we've and we've enabled everyone to go on a snitch mode. But yeah, it's and it's it's just very cynical. But this is, again, a cynical party doing whatever they can to kind of keep this going. So if there are any there's any sort of uh historical precedent that
Starting point is 00:55:05 makes what they do now look bad it's like well then we can't talk about that shit at all but the one hope i have is that when you look at the like literal complexion of this country and like how these younger generations and the diversity of america begins to change more and more and more i don't know how many kids of color you're going to be able to like get away from this idea that oppression isn't real because on some level it's going to be lived. And that is a whole other dimension to you can you can only teach people so much. But if the lived experience is one thing that does that does move people in a certain direction. But I think that's the most optimistic read at the moment. Yeah. All right. Let's shift focus over to the Biden administration.
Starting point is 00:55:48 They're not nailing it with the big core promises they made, such as securing voting rights and student debt, that stuff. Climate change. Climate change. They're still just throwing up their hands and being like i mean what fucking cinema you know yeah so that that's not looking good so we wanted to check in with uh one of his other campaign promises that i hadn't even really noticed at the time but this is a quote from biden during the 2020 campaign i promise you if i'm elected president you're gonna see the single most important thing that changes america
Starting point is 00:56:33 we're gonna cure cancer that is that makes me so scared that their cure for cancer exists they're just trying to figure out when to deploy that shit. Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that almost seems like, yo,
Starting point is 00:56:49 I was talking to the homies at Merck. Right. Like an October campaign surprise or something. Yeah, exactly. They're going to save it for the second term or some right. Or midterms or something. He's like,
Starting point is 00:57:00 y'all, if the house goes red, I mean, I got this cancer cure. Maybe not. I guess I'll have to, I guess y'all weren't good this year. So that's like, y'all, if the house goes red, I mean, I got this cancer cure. Maybe not. I guess y'all weren't good this year. That's his Bin Laden's body being kept on ice. That's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Right. That's a bold statement. Yeah. It's kind of strong. He came with it. I thought for sure, like, I know it's, you know, it's in the italics and everything. So I assumed it was on the show document that it was a real quote, but that does not sound real at all. Yeah, we're going to cure cancer. That sounds that sounds like a Simpsons quote or something of like a politician like running for office. That does not sound right. Fucking absurd. And all the rain will be root beer. you're like yes i love this guy and every pet you've ever known will come back and greet you uh you know right from your childhood exactly
Starting point is 00:57:52 who what other presidential candidates person necromancy it wasn't just a one-time uh you know his riff gun misfiring this was a thing that he he repeated another time. He mentioned it. Another direct quote. I've worked so hard in my career that I promise you, if I'm elected president, you're going to see the single most important thing that changes America. I've worked so hard in my career that it's it's like the central like the that neoliberal idea that like, well, you just study hard, work hard and like it pays off and you become a billionaire. And if you don't, then you should have worked a little bit harder. And that is just that ideal misfiring in his brain to be.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Well, I've I've worked hard. I mean, look at me. I'm running for president. So I must have done something right. And therefore, I'm'm gonna cure cancer it it's definitely got guy whose wife is threatening to leave him energy and like he babe i swear to god it's going to be different this time like you know we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna buy that house uh that you've been wanting you know we'll uh we'll we'll spend more time together and i'm gonna to cure cancer. I mean, it also has like the dude talking to Lenny and of mice and men energy, like right before he shoots him in the back of the head.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah, yeah. No, it's all. We're curing cancer, Lenny. We're curing cancer, guys. Yeah, we're going to cure cancer, George. Oh, boy. I'm so sorry about this. I'm sorry, buddy.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah, yeah. Sure. Sure we will. Fuck. Wait, so what is what is that even feasible i mean because what what's like the i because i get their constant advancements right i i always see different like obviously the oncology treatments and that that research is is rapidly progressing all the time but like is that even is that even close like is even swinging at something that can even be hit for a single it's close for so cancer is a catch-all name for hundreds and maybe even thousands of types of diseases we have cured some of them like that's that's the sort of
Starting point is 00:59:58 shit that also america is really bad at is like stopping and being like yo they just cured like this type of cancer they used to like the doctor would just tell you you have 18 months like now they cure it like that shit is wild we don't really report that but yeah so it's not a single disease there are massive advances happening all the time and in like cancer treatment and even like cancer cures. By the way, I do want to just note that this idea that sounds so absurd to us that like we are assuming that it was like immediately buried by the his like administration staff or his campaign staffers. Trump heard it and immediately said that he was going to cure cancer. Jesus Christ. Like a rat battle of false hope. Holy shit. As JM put it. Just. He to cure cancer. Jesus Christ. Like a rat battle of false hope. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:00:45 As JM put it. He would cure cancer if he allowed it. He would take me out one time. That's incredible. Absolutely. We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases, including cancer and others. And we're getting closer all the time.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Somebody taught that man about type 1 diabetes because I've had that since I was nine years old and there's still no cure in sight for that one. So, you know, because somebody taught Trump, you know, tell him, hey, you know what your bitch ass can't do? Cure type 1 diabetes. He's like, well, actually, I can't cure the greed for the pharmaceutical companies is the problem. We could. It's just that insulin, that insulin flow, baby.
Starting point is 01:01:22 That's quite the profit margin. Insulin, that insulin flow, baby. That's quite the profit margin. Trump had proposed shrinking the National Cancer Institute's overall budget by almost $900 million. So that was what he had done to, you know, help. But if you can't diagnose cancer, then it's not there. Like that's what he was trying to do. Yeah, it's all negative thinking. You become poorly in your old age.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Scientology, they got some interesting ideas about whether cancer is real or whether you're just scared. But anyways. Or you just need more e-meter readings. Yeah. So Biden's idea was basically based on this thing where they would create a version of DARPA like you know the amazing like futuristic technology weapons designer called ARPA-H that would be like the healthcare version of DARPA where like you just have all of the smartest people using all the money and all the futuristic technology to like try out all these outside the box things on cancer cures instead of like
Starting point is 01:02:26 fucking bombs that can like dig 30 miles underground. They're just going to be like, yo, this hypersonic missile cures cancer. This, this drone cures cancer. You're like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:02:38 It also happens to kill everything within a 13 mile radius, but the cancer is gone technically. So yeah, it won't show up on x-ray exactly exactly it's just obliterated so in the spring of 2021 biden put together his proposal for arpa h with a budget for the year 2022 of 6.5 billion dollars so he tried and it was unsuccessful you're never gonna believe this it was unsuccessful it's're never going to believe this. It was unsuccessful. It's been cut down multiple times. Now we're looking at a third of it. And also he proposed he changed the
Starting point is 01:03:13 proposal from being a standalone agency. And the whole point is like it's standalone agency that like can think outside the box on all this shit, like to being a wing of the national national institute of health which is like very bureaucratic and is right sort of the thing that you would propose this idea to like get around is like well so here's like what's interesting about this idea is we have this like thing of people who are just kind of like blue skying it and seeing like if they come up with something and everybody's like, well, that so that doesn't you don't really have anything, man. You're just like giving the National Institute of Health more money and they'll fuck it up somehow. So I don't know. It's it seems like it is not shockingly a watered down version of a watered down idea that is now being funded at one third of what the request was.
Starting point is 01:04:10 There is still funding for it, but it doesn't seem like we're going to get this like thunderbolt from the sky. Also, like you think about how much COVID has disrupted the hospital. Like I have family who had to get cancer treatment and during the pandemic, and it was not easy. You know what I mean? And to even think it's like, yo, get the fucking hospitals running first before you start being like, and then we're going to cure cancer.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Cause so many people have had to delay all kinds of checkups and things like that. And the stress of living in a pandemic, you're fucking, you're like being on top of your health can go into the back real quick and next thing you know you could have serious health issues absolutely just like there's so much shit compounding this that it's very very frustrating yeah almost like the whole health care system needs to be fixed and not just like i'm gonna get a splashy headline by making the a teamteam of cancer research. But yeah, I mean, so he,
Starting point is 01:05:07 in February 2021, he said he was going to do everything we can to end cancer as we know it once we beat COVID. And like you said, the idea that they're two separate things is wrong and misguided and the pandemic is massively affecting millions of... Yeah, it's all systemic, this whole thing. And I've been intimately familiar with our healthcare system. Like I said, I was diagnosed with diabetes when I was nine years old. I spent a week in the hospital. And so it's, you know, I've had a lifetime and I've gone long periods of not having healthcare. I've literally had to shoplift my insulin before. long periods of not having healthcare. I've literally had to shoplift my insulin before.
Starting point is 01:05:51 That is a true story from Walmart. You know, when I was 18 and I kicked off of Medicare and, and literally had to sweet talk the ladies into handing me insulin, you know, at the pharmacy. And then, and, and then, you know, slipping it into my pocket before I walked out and I'm, you know, not proud of it, but I don't give a shit because it's Walmart. Fuck them. But also like, you shouldn't feel ashamed that you have to exist in a fucked up country where it's like, Oh, I have to, I have to do this to actually live. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's, there's so like, there's immediate things that need to be addressed first like that. Now the concept of ARPA H, it sounds cool as hell to me. i know in practice the people that are actually going to be making this thing function and the bureaucracy like you said jack is is going to make it an impossible impossible thing to accomplish but i love the idea it's like a futuristic like uh like it feels like the plot setup of like some some some Michael Bay movie or something where we find out that the government funded this secret department that,
Starting point is 01:06:48 you know, basically solved all of the world's ailments and, and, uh, and disease. All they had to do was create an Island full of clones. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Shout out to that movie. That movie doesn't get enough love. The Island. The Island. Yeah. One of the greats. I like that one. Yeah. But, uh, yeah. I like that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:05 But yeah, it's just I don't you're absolutely right. It's going to get fucked up. And do you blame anybody for being cynical anymore when like this something is as like as should be universally proposed as like trying to cure diseases that everybody gets affected by gets trimmed down from just a measly 6.5 billion. What's our defense budget? Like $800 billion, 6.5 billion. And we can't even get like a third of that past for this,
Starting point is 01:07:33 this reason. Maybe that was their thing is like, maybe they'll think it's for DARPA for like defense and defense research. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great man.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Let's put it 200, 200 billion. Good, good, good. Like, yes, the H actually stands for hellfire, hellfire missiles. They're like yeah yeah yeah great man 200 billion good good good They're like yes The H actually stands for Hellfire
Starting point is 01:07:47 Hellfire missiles It's just a whole ARPA department just for Hellfire missiles Oh we already have one Oh it's for helicopters Helicopters yes We need more attack choppers But yeah I mean Look at the amount of money and lives
Starting point is 01:08:04 Spent on a response to 9-11 as opposed to the current pandemic. And like, we care so much more about violence than we do about the humanity of the people in our country. It's fucking awful. of the people in in our country it's awful i think yeah and this cynicism just comes with observing how you know just more you know i'm speaking just specific about the united states you know the reflection of how you feel the country treats you or how much you think the government cares about you and it's very apparent that they don't give a fuck at all so yeah when you when you have people who don't give a fuck promising you things like hey man we're gonna get you healthy it's like okay yeah yeah right you know what's really frustrating too is that like it's particularly about biden is i think biden thinks he gives a shit he just
Starting point is 01:08:55 like doesn't he thinks he's well he's just yeah he's just he's a fucking relic man and he's like in that like liberal headspace where it's like well i said the good things and that's putting hope out there right but like come on folks it's hard out here you got to contend with all these lobbying groups like we do the best we can and then we just keep this thing going and that i think that helps him sleep at night that or his just severe old age yeah that helps him sleep upright sitting at his desk for 15 minute increments every five minutes. I would love to talk to him for like 20 minutes just to see like if I could fuck with him,
Starting point is 01:09:30 you know what I mean? Just like kind of get him saying something like, yo, I agree with that, man. Keep going. Keep going. He's like,
Starting point is 01:09:35 yeah. And all the, all the black people, they'll do a black people test where they got to vote for me. And then they get their black card. I'm like, yes, Joe,
Starting point is 01:09:43 keep talking that shit, man. And you're like, yo, Joe, keep talking that shit, man. And you're like, oh, please, please, please get this guy away from him. He's entertaining all his worst thoughts. Yeah, you always hear stories about like, but this guy in person, like the specifically the president's like, you know, Clinton is one thing on camera, but like you get him in person, he knows everyone's name. He like will like hold a really in-depth conversation with you while doing the New York Times crossword puzzle and sexually harassing a woman in the back row or something. But like, I feel like our last two presidents are probably like if you got them in person, you'd be like, you know, that that level of ego, it creeps me out.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Like I've been around politicians a few times and that just or like just very successful businessmen, CEO types in general. I it makes my skin crawl to be in the same room with them quite often. And I don't I don't know that I could handle being in the same room with a sitting or former us president. It would, it would be overwhelming. And I would say some shit that would get me in trouble. Probably.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Yeah. You're like, you're like, what's that war criminal. Hey, man, come on now. That's not fair.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I'm sorry. Sure. The Hague would love to see you though. Anyway. Well, thanks for the poke. Oh, Obama. Don't give a shit
Starting point is 01:11:09 about your year. Because I'm in Obama's house in Hawaii. That was the whole thing I envisioned. We're all here looking at Diamond Head. You know what I mean? It was a good scene building exercise. He's definitely serving you poke. Oh, here you go
Starting point is 01:11:25 willie aka christy amaguchi main such a pleasure having you yeah where can people find you follow you all that good stuff well thank you so much it's been an absolute pleasure i called my mom and told her i was on tdz today and she said what the fuck is that and then hung up on me um so uh just a mom's a thrilling time to be here. You know, just a local kid that made good, took me five years of tweeting at you to incessantly to be invited on here, but it was worth it.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Tweeting great stuff at us. So don't think that everybody else don't think you can just tweet at us and get on the show. You have to be very talented. All the work that I didn't get done at my job, coming up with AKAs and shit was absolutely worth it. So thank you again.
Starting point is 01:12:12 yeah, a George center is the podcast that we drop every week and the handle for it is in my, my Twitter bio. And I also do Lauer after hours, which is kind of like a, just a fan podcast. If you're into Dan Lebitard show, then you might want to check that out.
Starting point is 01:12:27 But Jort Center is the more it's kind of just like shit posting for your ears. I think that's what our kind of mission statement, if podcasts have mission statements, would be. And yeah, I just want to shout out Poetry Chat and Chris Crofton's Poetry Window because I absolutely love that thing. I've become a big fan of him listening to you guys over the years. And, and I'm in a group chat with all those people that, that eagerly await Chris Crofton's tweets every day. And also just want to shout out Jesus Christ,
Starting point is 01:12:56 our Lord and savior. And, you know, the whole reason I'm here today, because all things are possible through him. So. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:04 All right. Absolutely. Is there, I'm not laughing y'all. reason i'm here today all right man because all things are possible through him so wow yeah all right uh is there uh i'm not laughing y'all i'm not laughing jesus christ i'm not laughing y'all better get your shit right if you want to be safe yeah and uh also real quick real quick just because there's so many zeitgang that i've become buddies with over the you know over the years uh also listen to bread sheet podcast killer history and grand rapidians play video games and the nice pilled podcast um uh they're all fantastic shows and y'all's listener base is super creative and uh and just a wonderful group of people man we're like undefeated yep yep anyway yeah But we're not having any of them on. We're having you on.
Starting point is 01:13:45 But listen to their podcast, though. Damn, Jack just laid down the law. Holy shit. He's just like, you are our only child. That was intimidating. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And also, if you like 90 Day Fiance or Married at First Sight, check out 420 Day Fiance. That's the show I do with Sophia Alexandra. First tweet I like is from... Did you do a tweet, Crispy? You know, I didn't. I just realized I didn't because I was making sure. I felt like, you know, in middle school when you call the local R&B station
Starting point is 01:14:22 and you want to shout at all your middle school friends. I feel like that's what i was just doing just then but uh uh so tweets i've been liking from schweitz ay what is the difference between a prime minister and a president of prime ministers are only divisible by one of themselves a post and monkey uh plant your four free covid tests in six months you have 500 covid tests sell them for two thousand dollars each boom you're a millionaire and uh from writhing underscore south, self-checkout feels good when you ain't got a bitch in your ear saying, please place item in the bagging area.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Yeah, yeah. So those are just three tweets I've been fucking with lately. There it is. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? As I said, Miles of Grey, you heard all that. Some tweets I like. First one is from Chrissy at Crib, C-h-r-i-b-b-z-z
Starting point is 01:15:08 tweeted y'all be like i'm entering my villain era and it's you just asserting boundaries which is so true because we are conditioned to think that having boundaries is some kind of villainous activity uh and another one i just laughed so much at this one. Maisha the Stallion at Maisha Chu, C-H-O-U tweeted, it's like a picture of a COVID test, you know, like where it has one line or two lines. And it says, just got my at-home testing kit from the U.S. government. And the picture where it says like result, it just says, go to work. It's funny because it's true. Right. And the last one mr john darby tweeted fred flintstone i've got a problem with my car podiatrist let's take a look
Starting point is 01:15:52 let's see a serious one i enjoyed sister helen pre-gene tweeted the death penalty is fundamentally a poor person's issue i've never met a single person with money or resources on death row capital punishment means those without the capital get the punishment that's just straight up facts DJ fuck tweeted love language yeah I
Starting point is 01:16:18 do it's very useful and I also I don't think I'd ever seen this pinch tweet before, but from our very own Christy Yamaguchi, man, Brom Stoker sounds like the coolest fucking surfer I've ever heard of. That's just absolute facts. Brom Stoker, bro.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Brom Stoker. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where
Starting point is 01:16:53 we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, man. So there's this Squid Game album that's tracks inspired by enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh man so there's this uh squid game like album that's tracks inspired by squid game and there's a track from toki monsta shout out toki monsta who's so she's like a wonderful beat maker producer dj from southern california and she has
Starting point is 01:17:19 a track on here called the flower blooms which is actually if you remember the first episode the red light green light episode. That little robot isn't saying red light, green light. It's saying that the mugunghwa flower has bloomed. So that's so when you hear this episode, there's a sample of that robot talking, but it's actually Tokimonsa doing it because she's also Korean. So this it's kind of it's wild to hear a track where you're like nodding your head and hearing. And you're like, oh oh shit, this thing goes. So check this one out.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Toki Monster, The Flower Blooms. Yeah. What? Is that what the game, like, is that how you play the game in Korea, I wonder? Is that like how, what they say instead of red light, green light? I think because our version is called red light, green light, I think because our version is called red light, green light, but they're the words just aren't red light, green light, because it's a national flower, from what I understand. I went in deep on this because people were like,
Starting point is 01:18:14 it's not red light, green light. And we're like, but that's the game that we use, our parallel game. Yeah, no, it's just so much more poetic. We're like, red light, green light, you go somewhere, you're a car. Right. And then they're like the mugunghwa has bloomed yeah what uh all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or
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