The Daily Zeitgeist - Jekyll and Himmler, WTF Is Blexit? 10.30.18

Episode Date: October 30, 2018

In episode 263, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Noah Gardenswartz to discuss Kanye's West's new 'blexit' stance, the Indonesian plane crash, the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, whether the mainstream media will start acknowledging the blatant racism in this country, Brazil's new far-right president Jair Bolsonaro, the Playstation Classic update, the newly released video game Red Dead Redemption 2 with editor Danl Goodman, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Kanye's 'Blexit' T-Shirts Are Lying to You2. Lion Air plane crashes in Indonesia3. Pittsburgh synagogue shooting suspect appears in court4. Asked about Pittsburgh synagogue shooting on @foxandfriends, @KellyannePolls says "what's important is what POTUS has done - he denounced anti-Semitism...he called for the death penalty for this murder. He said the word 'anti-Semitism'"5. 4 things to know about Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s new far-right president6. PlayStation Classic Games List Revealed7. Red Dead Redemption 2: Five tips for being the best outlaw you can be8. WATCH: Skinshape - I won't be there Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 55, episode 1 of Two Daily Zeitgeist! For Tuesday, October 30th, 2018. It's actually episode 2. We forgot to change it on my document here, but that's okay. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Oh, I'm Jack O'Brien. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm Jack O'Brien.

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Simple as that. Die, motherfucker. Die, motherfucker. Die. Anyway, that is a... That was when Diddy was just like going, just having an emotional meltdown in the background of his tracks. Well, he was trying to find his identity post-Biggie,

and he wasn't sure if he was really that gangster dude or just the take that, take that background guy. Yeah, well, when he was laying that track down, did you think the producer was just like, yo, are you all right? I think the engineer, like, basically looked at everybody else in the control room and was like, is he okay? So this is going to make it in? But anyway, yeah, that is Hate Me Now, a hate me now uh aka from captain butt napkin so at captain butt napkin

yeah he's always good for a good aka what album was that off of was that off of i am yeah whatever what he got the mad pharaoh costume oh i think it's i am got it which was an album i think he had two albums in that same year. Yes. We were talking about that. Yeah, because he signed a really bad record contract, and I was like, why is Nas just crapping out these terrible albums all of a sudden? And it was because he signed a really bad record contract, and it was just popping him

out. Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny writer and comedian. You can see him in the upcoming season two of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. This is Mr. Noah. Garden Schwartz. Hey, what's up, guys? What's up? I can't commit to a song the way you two did, so I'm just going to say hello.

I'm sure you could. I'm sure you could. Well, we're thrilled to have you, man. Yeah, always happy to be here. Well, we're thrilled to have you, man. Yeah, always happy to be here. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. But first, we're going to take our listeners through what we're talking about today. The goal of our show is to tell you guys what the nation is thinking and talking about what's on our collective mind, hiding in our collective unconscious.

We use the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google and social media. And today, we have some bad news out of the Kanye camp. He has released some new gear, some new- Some new garbage. Yeezy season is- Wearable trash. Upon us, and it is garbage. So we're going to talk about that. There was a plane crash recently. We're just going to give basically about that. There was a plane crash recently. We're just going to give basically the fact that there was a plane crash because that is something that is trending

and that people are talking about. We're going to obviously talk about the Pittsburgh massacre that happened over the weekend, just how the media is covering it, how the right is responding. covering it, how the right is responding. We're gonna talk about Brazil's new president and the PlayStation Classic update and also Red Dead. We're gonna do a Red Dead Redemption 2 update check-in with our Red Dead correspondent. Letters from the front. Letters from the front. But first, Noah, we like to ask our guests what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? This morning, I searched, and this is not a daily occurrence, but I searched daily horoscope

Capricorn. Okay. For whatever reason, this morning, I wanted to know what the stars had in line for me. I was hoping you'd be like, and I'm a Leo. Just had a feeling. Yeah. And supposedly, the day is today for me to commit acts of service for friends and family oh fantastic which is supposed to bring me physical strength so

oh so some kind of physical labor yeah okay so no no no if i just do something good for someone else it'll make me stronger oh just in general okay i mean that's true but that should always be everyone's horoscope yeah that right do good things for others, and you will have- Well, what do I get out of it? Stars? Bottom line, all my fellow horoscope Capricorns out there, today's your day to shine. Do you normally look at a horoscope? Or not really?

You said this is not- No, I don't do it regularly. I'm not a big astrology guy, but I'm not an astrology hater either. Yeah, yeah. I honestly don't know what the motivation for looking it up today was either yeah but that's the last thing i googled it was in the stars where was that from was it just the first thing you found on google uh horoscope.com i did a deep dive which is very good advice though uh i like it hey look if that gets somebody to treat someone else with i know yeah well i think that's good advice, especially today.

I think everybody's- Yeah, mine says to ask everyone for as many favors as possible. Well, today's the day that I'm willing to grant that. Fantastic, man. Find a Capricorn and just ride them into the ground. Yeah. I'm trying to take a piano out of a second story apartment. I was just going to say, if you were ever moving, today's the day to ask.

Right. What is something you think is overrated overrated hiking okay hate hiking with a passion i realize i'm in the city where everyone loves hiking yeah i will die on this hill which is what i want to do when someone gets me to hike yeah it sucks walking is is awesome. Hiking is the worst. Interesting. Walking. What are you considering the difference there?

Like New York walking? Yeah, the difference. Hey, I'm walking here. Hey, I'm walking here. The difference being the level of difficulty with which you have to do it and the surroundings. Put me on flat concrete and I'm happy. Put me on dusty mountains and i'm miserable right so you don't want you don't want to exert yourself at all correct i like being outside i

like feeling a little bit uh you know getting going aerobically i hate having to go uphill on a dirty path do you is there other exercise that you like doing like if it's if it's in line with sort of exerting yourself? I love basketball. Okay. So you need to compete a little bit to get your juices going. Sure. Yeah.

And if I'm not going to be competing, I want to do it in a nice, just leisurely walk. Where'd you go? What inspired this? Which trail? The fact is I've been a lifelong hiking hater. Just always like, I guess I'll go i'm from colorado right you know it's just like everywhere i've been there's always people trying to get me to hike and i've tried and i hate it it's just not happening god colorado must be i mean i i've not been there to like hike ever but what i from what i know of colorado's natural beauty must be a hard like party you must be like

yeah i guess it could be kind of chill to see right well like i've done red rocks and you know what's fun going to red rocks and sitting down and looking at red rocks yeah that's how i feel about moon rocks driving through colorado is dope yeah yeah what do you mean by that's how you feel about moon rocks the drugs oh just i've done moon rocks and i'd like. I like to sit down. What are moon rocks? Ah. Ecstasy. It's ecstasy mixed with something else. That's that pure, pure.

Yeah, yeah. And then there's also like- That's when it's like brown, right? Then there's like concentrated weed that they call moon rocks, too, that they dust on. I feel like moon rocks, the place you get those is in a parking lot outside of a fish show. No, I mean, mean look the moon rocks are everywhere you know what i mean you just got to find neil armstrong you know what i mean you say you are you buzz you got the moon rocks uh-huh just go to second period at any high school yeah

but no the kids are doing now i mean who knows who knows they're all just jeweling what is something you think is underrated underrated having a relationship with your barber having a reliable place to get a haircut and a person at that place that does it for you okay so you're not talking about a romantic relationship no no okay no i'm not i'm not talking about a romantic relationship i'm talking about an even more important relationship the relationship of being able to get a consistent haircut yeah Yeah, and someone not fucking it up and knowing that they want to give you the best possible haircut. Yeah, because as a recent transplant out here,

I've been on a search for a barber, and I went to one place where there's three barbers cutting, and I just went for the first available and got a decent haircut. It was fine. Didn't love the guy. Went back to the same barber shop, and again, because I didn't love the first guy, to the same barber shop and again because i didn't

love the first guy i wasn't like passionate about waiting for him so i just went to the next available barber and that guy was glaring at me angrily the entire time he felt like i was cheating on him in front of him right i went to the the next seat over so that barber shop became awkward to go back to so now i'm still on the hunt for a new barber and i just really miss being back in new york with tiago oh fly him out man you know you'll get there listen i aspire that's the way yeah yeah tiago only has one job it's cutting those hair how often you get a haircut because you always look pretty cleaned up try to go once every two weeks wow damn there you go okay all right uh and finally what's a myth what's something people think is true that you know to be false? Here's a myth I'd like to bust.

That Halloween is just a holiday for women to dress up like sluts. Because I went to a Halloween party this weekend, and I can tell you, it is men that are fully indulging in the nudity that Halloween allows. It is a bulge party out there now. It is a bulge party out there now. Women are covering up or just dressing in normal costumes, and men are looking for any excuse to show their dicks off. Wow. So what party was this?

What was the theme? The theme was Moulin Rouge, which I didn't follow. The theme was rock out with your cock out. No, that's the thing. There were so many guys not even wearing a costume. They were just in weird spandex outfits, just looking for any reason to just slut it up as men. Yeah, sure. Maybe they're exercising their own.

You know, I think we live in a country where, you know, if a dude wants to wear, be freaky, wear a spandex. Yeah, listen, I'm not even. Catch that heat. I'm not even hating on it. No, no, I know what you mean. I'm not saying they shouldn't dress how they want, but I'm just saying like the myth is Halloween is just an excuse for women to dress scantily clad right and it feels like men

have swung the pendulum i always see the dude wearing the borat bikini right well i i feel like that's what started yeah and you're like what is the point yeah of this like is it because you can say my wife with impunity for the whole day exactly yeah and then like attach the wild uh pubic hair with glue around there to make it look wild yeah i would have to attach yes x i would add some to the costume not hairy enough to pull that one off uh that goes back to my last point of a good relationship with your barber yeah there you go yeah that that is a very intimate relationship. Be like, yo, could you clean me up?

Take stress. So one thing that I've realized this Halloween is the importance of getting a good fit with your costume because I had a... What do you mean, like how it sits on your body? Yeah, well, because... So I think I've talked about it in the office. I don't know if I've talked about it on the episode,

but my Batman costume that is like, it's like two inches too short from like shoulder to inseam. Yeah. And so it just gives me the wild like camel toe moose knuckle. And it's like obscene. Like my wife pointed it out at like, as I was answering the door for trick-or-treaters, kids love the costume because it's like, it'sers, kids love the costume because it's like,

it's a, it's a legit, like it has the muscles built in and it's like a legit, like Batman costume from like old Adam West days. But it's like, it's a good costume. And like the kids are like, Oh,

it's Batman. But like, I can't wear it anymore because it just rides up in a way that even if I'm pulling down, it just goes right back. It looks weird, yeah. So I went and got another Batman costume. It was very similar. Oh, so you're committed to being Batman. Yeah.

It's the one day a year that I get to dress up like Batman. Come on, man. Yeah, I mean, I went as Julius Caesar specifically so I could just do the toga. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Not have to worry about moose knuckling children. The kids are responding great to it. To your grotesque bulge in the front. I just went from medium to large. There you go.

You're a big boy now. Yeah, big boy. Speaking of just unfortunate clothing, Kanye has its Yeezy season. These days that means he's dumping some weird political messages on the world. This time he has a shirt that says Blexit. Yeah, the brainchild of Candace Owens apparently. Just got his ear who is the woman who kind of began Kanye's

like really showing his ass when he was like, I like Candace Owens, who's very much like a victim mentality, like people of color need to get out of a victim mentality sort of take. And yeah, now they have he's got these shirts, the Blexit so it's like the black exit as black people leave the Democratic Party

is sort of the vibe. And it has like this really crude, like sort of person with their arms out, like a stick figure. And it says shit like, we free or Blexit. And I, it's just, it's garbage. It's trunks.

It looks like some shit that you would see in the Dave Matthews band gear website. Yeah. Or if Kanye had his own version of what Coco Pelly would look like. Coco Pelly is that Southwest dude who's playing the flute that you see on all kinds of Southwest garb. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure I'm getting his origin story all fucked up. But yeah, that's sort of how this crew-

Oh, I was envisioning Dara Leet from Zoolander. No, but this is a... Yeah, I think this is on his store now, and it's just this... How much is he selling it for? A hat is like 25 bucks. The T-shirts are like anywhere from 25 to 28, if they're long sleeve or not.

And it's, yeah, this is just a new piece of swag you could wear but honestly like i hope i'm this is like when you realize there's no if for anyone who is still sort of like well maybe this is a bit you're like no no is is this like make america great again hat meets fubu in a way for black people to wear yes you know or, can you imagine? How weird would it be to see a Trump, like a white Southern Trump guy wearing a Blexit shirt? Right. It's a very early 90s pastel color palette. So that would be really wild. Well, 90s are coming back.

Right. It's been 20 years. Yeah. No, I'm sure it's like the color palette's probably fashion forward. But then the design is like, it honestly looks like the fire dancer from the Dave Matthews logo. Yeah, it's just, I mean, because like he goes on and he talks about his free thinking shit and then he like donated a bunch of money to this mayoral candidate in Chicago who, Amaran Enya, I believe was her name, and she's like a very progressive candidate.

But then at the same time, you're having like black people leave the Democratic. He's just, again, he's not well. Right. And you have Candace Owens now taking advantage of his like sort of position as a tastemaker to be like, how can we make this like black exit from the Democratic Party thing like a cool thing? Yeah, I didn't know that he was specifically Republican. Like I knew he was like,

I'm open to all points of view. Well, I think he's just, again, for him, I think he agrees with this because he likes that idea that just because you're black doesn't mean you have to be a Democrat to excuse his Trump love,

which is his attempt at saying that I don't have to like all of his politics. It's all very convoluted. And again, this is, we're dealing with somebody who's not playing with a full deck or seemingly not but yeah they're just trying to make this shit cool and is not look i can't imagine anybody like really wearing it i mean i can but

not anybody that i would know if you're like we're three months in the simulation away from him and lavar ball teaming up for a clothing line well they were together did you see that photo no oh i thought you were joking yo he was at espn or something there's a photo of him and lavar ball oh yeah i was joking but all right i guess the simulation is real yeah you are seeing just the coding as it comes down got it west ball 2020 you guys uh west ball is also what we called your too snug Batman costume. It was just the one that kind of hung out there. Yeah. All right.

Let's talk. And the kids were responding really well to it. That's not what they were responding to. Oh, I'm sorry. They were looking at the Batman face. Oh, gotcha. Not the... Anyways. Not the other Batman face.

Yeah. I was also wearing a towel Around my waist They're like Yo why is Batman in a towel Don't worry Batman Batman just got out of the shower Yeah

Don't ask questions Alright You shower in your suit Batman What the fuck did I say About the question There was a plane crash In Indonesia 189 people

Were on board Doesn't look good uh crashed into the ocean and went down 13 minutes after taking off from jakarta there's not much it was a airline called lion air yeah this is going to be presumably uh the deadliest plane crash of 2018. And, yeah, I mean, on the one hand, shit like this makes me just even more terrified to fly. And then, on the other hand, it also is a reminder that there hasn't been one of these in America in a long, long time. Prior to this, what was the biggest plane crash that happened?

What do you mean? You said it could be the biggest one of 2018. This is the biggest plane crash that happened what do you mean so you said that it could be the biggest one of 2018 this is the biggest one of 2018 so presumably like yeah it just barely took over another one like i'm having trouble do they have any idea what the cause was no because i read something on the internet last year that basically said over the next 20 years because of global warming and climate change flights are about to get so much more turbulent because of the winds in the atmosphere and that plane crashes are about to become way more prevalent wow so maybe that will help assuage your fear yeah flying yeah definitely i mean one thing that helped assuage my fear was the idea that uh

even if the both engines die like the way planes are built like they can just basically hang glide to the ground from up in the air so sure didn't you used to were you ever boy scout building hang gliders yeah i just didn't know that you could build enormous hang gliders out of metal. Oh, the huge air crash was one from Cuba. Right. That was in May, where 112 people died. Yeah. So, I mean, it still happens.

A lot of these things happen way more than we think. It's odd, though, too. You know, like, again, it just speaks to how many tragedies occur, so, like, back-to-back, where back where I'm like, which one was that? That I'm losing track. It's tragedy overload. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that is one of the effects of 24-hour news is that we hear about every bad thing that happens everywhere. So even though flights are getting safer and at least in America, crime and violence is going down, it seems like it's going up because we're seeing reports on it just constantly. So is there hope that there's any survivors or it's just a foregone conclusion that that entire – I think they're sort of presuming everyone to be dead at the moment. I think so. They are interviewing a guy who just barely missed the flight was supposed to be on the flight so he's got to feel pretty lucky or alternately hopefully he hasn't seen final final destination uh yeah or survivor's remorse all right let's take a quick

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And we're back. and we're back and so the news from over the weekend that i think people are still you know is at the front of everyone's mind is the mass shooting at the pittsburgh synagogue this is something you know it continues with a long-standing trend that we've talked about a lot on the show where people, like we were just saying before the break, we tend to overreact to all types of violence in America, especially if the violence is done by a brown person. But for some reason, we underreact to terrorism motivated by right-wing ideology, or at least we find a way to talk past that with regards to the content of the ideology that's motivating it and i think on the right wing they're saying this is about hate like the act of hatred but refusing to connect it to politics so from that perspective it has like more to do with

road rage than trump and his ideology because that is also hatred it's just like they're basically trying to pull out the idea of anger and make that the thing that people should think about as opposed to the fact that unfortunately for the logical coherence of that point of view this dude specifically wrote on nazi twitter gab that he was doing this in direct relation to the caravan story that fox news was artificially like over hyping for the past week oh yeah same yeah. Same at Seoul right-wing meetings. Right, exactly. Yeah.

And, yeah, I think he even talked about how some people were trying to say, well, he hated Trump or whatever. And, like, so this is different than the MAGA bomber who loved Trump or whatever. And even in his own writings, he was saying that Jews would get in the way of Trump's agenda or whatever. that Jews were getting would get in the way of Trump's agenda or whatever. So as much as they try and divorce this person from being aligned with like the MAGA mentality, there's so much overlap that it's just so disheartening to then just watch so many people on the right try and be like,

well, how do we make, how do we shift this to try and not acknowledge like what is at the heart of the political strategy or the rhetoric that they're using to stay in power or to gain support. Right. I mean, he's clearly plugged into the same wave of energy that's being generated by Trump and his media apparatus

because he believed the lie that America was in danger because of immigration. I guess he was specifically trying to target HIAS, the Hebrew Immigration Aid Society, for their role in allowing and fostering immigration of refugees, but that he referred to that as like them allowing the slaughter of our people, which suggests that immigrants are more likely to commit crimes than us or than people who are already natives, which isn't true. Which would be rhetoric directly tied to Trump. Right. Right.

Yes, exactly. Kellyanne Conaway was really, the White House was in full swing, like trying to distance themselves as much as possible because, again, it's very clear, as we even said when we were talking about the MAGA bomber. If you want to say he's directly culpable or indirectly, the man is culpable. You know what I mean? Like you say, Jack, make this about something else, not make it about the environment in which you have a president who's saying that like after Charlottesville, when you have people going around saying Jews will not replace us. Well, they're good people on both sides. Right.

But he's not. But he stands up for. But he's anti anti-Semitism. He loves the Jewish community and blah, blah, blah. But he uses the same coded language as many of these anti-Semitic neo-Nazi people do. And there's tremendous overlap. And the fact that they can't even admit that part is really disheartening. So this is Kellyanne Conway somehow when brought up when she was on Fox this morning or on Monday morning asking about, well, you know, a lot of people say Trump's rhetoric is something to blame.

And this is just a very odd spin that she tries to put on it. Well, you know what they were saying yesterday, Kellyanne? They were saying that the president's rhetoric was responsible for the rise of political violence, just raising the temperature in America. Yeah, that's really unfortunate. And I went back and looked at a big compilation of comments that are made on other cable networks routinely the chyrons the comments i won't even repeat the insults because it gives them oxygen it gives them much higher ratings that they would also get otherwise get in their own shows so she literally

didn't address a single thing about what he was asking about just what about ism just yeah well they they they say stuff about the president that's different than when you are you're using language that encourages violence against certain groups. People being outraged about his terrible policies is not the same. No one's out here being like the Trump family are rats and therefore, you know, don't they're not. Let's strip them of their humanity because they're evil parasites who blah, blah, blah. Like the way that everyone, whether it's people in the caravan or people who are involved in police violence or whatever, they do whatever they can to dehumanize whatever specific group it is. So I guess that was her attempt to say that, well, the media calls the president out and that creates an atmosphere of anger. That creates an atmosphere of anger when you're not for one second looking at what this man says and how that's contributing to it.

So then she goes on to maybe give an easier defense to try and understand what was at play here. in this country, that it's somehow in vogue and funny to make fun of anybody of faith, to constantly be making fun of people who express religion, the late night comedians, the unfunny people on TV shows. So she's saying that because there are jokes about religion in the mainstream media, that that contributed to... The jokes were so fire that it inspired somebody to perpetrate a full-on hate crime against another group. Because if there's one thing the Jewish community can't abide, it's jokes.

Yeah. No, 100%. I don't know. Again, and it's just part of this thing where we, as a country, right? Like, racism lies at the core of this country. But it's like the one thing that a lot of American people don't want to acknowledge. It's very easy to paper over the cracks and say, you know, when Obama was president, it was easy to avoid real meaningful discussions around racism and hate because we looked at the situation. We're the poster child for progress.

Yeah, we're like, oh, it's fine. But this has been the case since the beginning you know what i mean and the idea of of uh white people losing their status in this country has motivated so many crimes like this no matter who the group is it could be black people could be jewish people could be trans people just whatever that lost perceived loss of status motivates these kinds of things. And again, when you look at even the news coverage, right, like the media even has a problem describing racism as racism, because for whatever reason, you have a segment of people in the country who don't like the idea of hearing that. And they don't like, oh, God, why are you calling everything racist or whatever? Because we have this problem in this country.

That's why. And every time we get into things where people say, oh, we shouldn't talk about the blah, blah, blah, the fire still burns. And we're not able to put it out because we're not actually being specific in our language that we can identify what these issues are. And I think that especially when you have people like on NBC or other places too, when they describe things like whether it's Roseanne or other things, people use like racially charged language or the president has a racial bias or whatever, they have to begin describing these things for what they are too. Because when we obscure it, it allows these people to get away with it. And we will continue down this path of nothing being solved because we're not

hold anything to account. Well, you can see that taking place in the kind of dual reality that people are always living in. Like I'm seeing a very even split in reactions to what happened with Pittsburgh amongst the Jewish community of half of them being like, I'm not surprised at all. The writing was on the wall. It was only a matter of time before our community was targeted. And then another half that's like, I can't believe this could happen to Jews in America in 2018. Right. You know, and so it's like we all kind of live in a state of disbelief mixed with, oh, of course this happened. Yeah.

And I think that's sort of the duality is like we know racism exists, but sometimes we don't want to get too in the weeds to be like, wait, hold on. Let's really ferret out people who are talking like this who are contributing to this atmosphere and that's where the conversation is starting to move where it's like well yeah what's going on here like when you have trump up there being like oh you know globalists wink wink and then acting like well that's not what that means and i saw people even on nbc today having someone like oh that's a reach to say that that's coded language to talk about like jews or that that has some kind of anti-semitic bend to it when you're like come really why are you even on the news right now because that's the problem when you can't even understand

that at the very least you can say that could be a reach in your view but you can also acknowledge that that is the language that these people use so you can on one one hand say – The global banking system. Right, exactly. And they say, well, they use globalists to talk about NATO or whatever. It's like, but of course. But the underpinnings of that are always about this just greater idea of Jewish people controlling the markets or whatever. And it's just one of those things where I wasn't surprised. I was shocked, obviously, and just so saddened to see things play out this way. But again, this is a thing that the country hasn't fully come to terms with.

And we're taking steps that are too small to really to confront this. Yeah. But what would an appropriate step even be? I mean, I think that's why so little progress being made is no one even knows where to begin and of course the journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step but what is that first step that actually chips away at it I feel like aggressively treating right-wing terrorist and right-wing like hate ideology the way that Americalamic radicalism that's actually an excellent first step september 11th is an important step but like yeah i'm not going to be surprised until the rhetoric around these killings changes to this is a radical terrorist these are the people he was talking to let's bring them in let's you know these are terrorist organizations

these are terrorist networks because right now we treat these neo-nazis like oh those are just them fools that hang around by the park they're not right they're not about anything no they're about they want people dead yes and i mean there was a dude you know a very clearly mentally ill person at the end of last week who shot two black people in a Kroger. And before he went to the Kroger, he tried to enter a black church and just basically recreate what happened in South Carolina and start shooting black people while they worshiped. Was there security that turned him away? They had security. Yeah, they had security there that turned him away.

I thought the doors were just locked or what? There was actual security? They said that they... I'm sorry, I didn't mean to laugh because I thought you were talking about how Trump was like, well, maybe they should have had a security guard. No, it might have been locked doors or somebody at the door who pushed him back. But yeah, he couldn't get in there. And they were like, we're glad we had some security in place. What I feel like is happening the same way over the last few years, the left has kind of become aware of this idea of gerrymandering and like how the Republicans for decades were kind of plotting something for the future completely under everybody's nose. I

feel like this past year, we've seen a lot of violence that's been sown secretly in this war that people have been planning to fight in the shadows for like two decades that are suddenly coming to the surface like i feel like the alt-right and the neo-nazis have been preparing for this very very ugly war for the future of america that no one really paid any heed to becoming a reality like we were all in denial of the fact that there really were crazy people out there prepared to kill and die for these ideas that we thought we were all past right and now we're seeing unfortunately every single week that it's happening yeah yeah and

it's i mean unfortunately we're a little behind on our defenses. Yeah. And these people weren't, these right-wing hate people weren't coming out as much and conducting all these mass killings as much. Obviously, they were responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing. I do feel like this is a testament to just having somebody at the head of the country who has rhetoric that tacitly supports your ideology is going to create more incidents like this. And this was the weekend where I feel like just the idea of, you know, I've heard people on the left be like, yeah, well, even if we replace Trump, Pence is going to be just as bad. Like we just that that doesn't make sense anymore. The flames. I just feel like, yeah, we have somebody who is actively stoking the flame. And he doesn't understand what it means to be the president, because for him, he's just well, he's like, well, I only fuck with the 50 whateverwhatever percent, 40-some percent of the country that voted for me. Right. That's who I represent.

That's who I fuck with. I don't give a fuck about anyone else. Watch me talk this shit about all these other people and get everybody really excitable and angry about this kind of thing. And, you know, what you mean is like, yeah, it's true. When he's at the top and this is the president and he's saying things like, yeah, I'm a nationalist. What's wrong with that oh yeah you know george soros wink wink is i can just point to george soros being behind whatever thing that is causing me problems today it's like when a substitute teacher comes and you know like when the normal teachers are you're not going to act up

because a normal teacher will has your number and can get you in trouble because you don't you don't act up what the sub is there yes there's someone there in place of the teacher, but you know you can get away with a lot more because this person isn't quite dictating what the norms are or whatever. And that's sort of like what's going on now. These people are sort of emboldened by the idea that maybe he might not be directly rah-rah-ing them, even though he is somewhat,

not to the point where it's that explicit, but that sort of atmosphere is just allowing just the things to become completely out of control and for people to operate an environment we're like well he's not going to say anything and he's not going to try and say anything to be like everyone hold on we're fucking up as a country because he's not going to say that he's just resorting to the same shit of like well you know the media is really there does the fake news has to stop so something that i've like struggled with internally is every time there's been a horrible tragedy in an act of domestic terrorism or racism towards other communities i always would be very upset

at trump for not responding with some kind of tweet in support or like acknowledging the suffering of other communities and then as a jew when i saw what happened in pittsburgh and trump had like five or six tweets in a row in support of the jewish community and rebuking anti-semitism and oddly enough i was angry that he tweeted in support like even though in theory that's what i wanted to read from him saying i was like shut the fuck up and you know like yeah where were these tweets for all the other communities and so it almost made it feel like a sense of fake support and political reaching out like he doesn't want to lose the pro-israel crowd right on the conservative

right and and so it's like it is a damned if you do damned if you don't from our leadership where when he's silent i wish he would say something when he finally finally says something, I realized I wish he never said anything. I guess what we're longing for is something sincere from him. Cause like you said, like, you know, Ivanka and Jared had to beg him to write that. Like,

and fuck them too. Let me tell you something. I will speak on behalf of the entire Jewish. We do not want Ivanka or Jared. Well, yeah. And the New York times, they were saying they use very interesting language.

They said it took the importuning of his Jewish daughter and son-in-law to craft a powerful statement, which sounds like he was probably very indifferent, wasn't doing anything. And they were like, hello, what are you doing? And again, I think that's where it rings hollow because right after that, he's back into attack mode and he's talking some other shit that just renders the thing he just said completely useless and negates it. I like that they said begging in a word that Trump couldn't understand so that he would then not get so mad at them and continue to give them interviews. He's like, no, I'm not into import tuning. I don't have a Nissan.

of a Nissan. The CNN argument or the argument that the fake media, like that he has blamed both of these things on the media is so like, I can't really understand the logical thread there, but it seems like it has the effect of the mainstream media criticized Trump, which in his opinion made Nazis mad and his supporter mad, the MAGA bomber. And so the mainstream media needs to stop being mean to him or else his people will, his followers will kill us. Is that like the theory? I know at a certain point we should just like be accustomed to the routine, but I truly am always continually shocked at his refusal to accept

any accountability for any wrongdoing at any time for anything he's done his life i mean i have never seen an adult with such a lack of regard for accountability and again and this is what we get when you have that kind of personality leading from the top one thing I'd like to see the media cover about this is just how fucking pathetic this shooter is claiming he's going in like some bad-ass military commando and then proceeding to shoot a series of like unarmed elderly and disabled people. And like, yeah,

he's being celebrated on gab that social media platform that Fox news was celebrating earlier this year for allowing like free speech on the right. He's being celebrated on Gab as a hero. Like their top trending things are like whatever the fuck his name is, hashtag hero and free whatever the fuck his name is. fuck his name is like so that can't be understated like what a piece of shit this guy is and like how comically self-defeating his attempt to like do something cool in the name of his ideology is it was just like so pathetic uh and it's fucked up to put worshippers in a position where a lot of people who are anti-gun now probably will not feel comfortable going back to their place of worship without an armed guard right there yeah like yeah no it's just bad all around all right it's just funny to me though too like when you think about this

like this shooting too like we're normally with every shooting we've talked the mental health thing comes up and the gun control things come up but But like it's weird. This feels like also I don't know if this is a breaking point for us in general, but like that we're having to really look beyond just those sort of superficial reasons. Well, because like when someone shoots up a school, I mean, any kind of killing is obviously like some kind of mental derangement. But like if someone shoots up a school, it's hard to imagine someone has an actual hatred towards children that's just a crazy person who had access to a gun they shouldn't have been able to access this guy of course is crazy but like it might not be a mental illness that led him to do this shooting this is just pure hatred and you know his intention was through anti-semitism it had nothing to do with mental illness so much as him wanting to stop the globalists from taking over.

It's a social version of mental illness. It follows that same thing. This guy was on Gab, the maggot bomber dude was clearly really into some of the memes that were popular on the Donald Trump subreddit. There's so

many avenues for radicalization now that it's just, yeah, it's just, I don't know. It's very frightening. I was reading an article last night about Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy and his assassination in particular. And, you know, with this story in the back of my mind and the idea that the right, like we as a nation refuse to think of the right as a coherent like hate ideology and a coherent like thinking about them as like a terror organization that is like pro-guns and pro basically killing and you know anti anyone who's not a white male or who is like helping people who aren't white males it's just I don't know like

if you think about it in that way the gun debate is is like they've used guns to murder our leaders and like continue to use guns to like murder people on the left, they killed Martin Luther King Jr., they killed JFK, they killed RFK, they continued to kill people with guns and then, like, mock the left for wanting to control guns. It's pretty fucking crazy. Well, yeah, I mean, and to see some politicians on the right, like, circle the wagons around this shooting, too, that's when you start really being like, oh, like, can we may might as well start looking at them as being like, oh, are you, you guys are actually starting to really have your foundations as a hate group in that sense. We're like, no, no, no, this isn't that.

And just denying it, they're like, well, we don't explicitly stand for it, but you know, we know who we rock with. And I think in that sense, that's why, like why like i'm looking at that's why i'm talking about the use of the term racism or like white supremacy or whatever that those terms need to be actually applied in a way because we're as we look at the behaviors and the rhetoric that's being used it's undeniable and i think a lot of the times people just because there are like ways to slip out of that argument it's like well you're just saying that because i said these things and i'm like no we're saying this because you're using the same language and the results that are rendering even when you see that you try and deny that that like there's

any connection between the two there's about to be like i mean america is going to be confronting a very ugly truth like there's so much pressure for this blue wave to take place on november 6th get out and vote get out and vote get out and vote if November 6th. Get out and vote, get out and vote, get out and vote. If all of America gets out and votes, I don't think we're going to like the results of what we see. I think America is going to have to confront the fact that at least half of our country truly is racist and truly does believe this way. I don't think it's a matter of too many good voices not getting out and voting or too many good voices being suppressed. I think there's an overwhelming majority of america that has really fucked up thoughts about people that are not

straight white males yeah i think there's an overwhelming majority of straight white males that have really fucked up views but i think you know demographically straight white males are becoming a smaller and smaller part of the population. So, I mean, that is really what this election and the future of American electoral politics is about is like trying to let everybody vote and trying to continue to allow the country that was built on immigration to have, you know, healthy immigration, as opposed to, you know, blocking everybody from coming in to preserve the power of straight white men, which, uh, all right, we're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered.

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As some people call him. Jair. I pronounce it correctly. Jair. Jair Bolsonaro, Jair, as some people call him. I pronounce it correctly. Jair. Jair. Jared, as I call him, Bolsonaro. Some people are calling him the Tropical Trump because he won the presidency by, you know, people appear to like him because he's entertaining and like honest in the way that, you know, Trump is honest and in the way that Trump is honest

and in the way the blue-collar comedy tour is honest, because they say what we're all thinking. Here's your son. Yeah, if we are all kind of racist, middle-class people, or just racist people of all stripes. And yeah, I don't know. It feels a little like watching people make the same mistake that you made. Just kind of having to hold your tongue.

Yeah. Like, well, Brexit, all the Brexit people beg the U.S. Don't vote for Trump. Whoops. And then now, like, people are like, Brazil, don't vote for Bolsonaro. Oh, oh. Yeah. Trump whoops right and then now like people are like Brazil don't vote for Bolsonaro oh oh yeah it's you know it's a disturbing trend to see take over time and you know like you're saying he had sort of the same playbook in the sense of like Trump where he was like you know I'm not like these other politicians I'm an outsider even though like he had served in the congress there

and then having like super hot takes on like rape or racism or lgbt loving the guy who tells it like it is yeah the 40 year old open micer who's here to shed some truth right right uh but that's part of where the trump brand of just consistently messaging how much you're winning like if you're in another country that's not necessarily seeing the day-to-day that goes on in America, and really the only newsflash of America that you get is seeing Trump talking about how great our economy is doing, then you might be brainwashed into thinking that your country needs a leader like that who can get your economy in here. recession recently and so like there are a lot of other factors contributing to people kind of looking at him and like well there was a massive corruption scandal and he's promising to tighten up the belt like nobody's ever seen right and yeah there's definitely sort of factors that have to be at the table before people like there's a lot of anger and resentment over all the stuff you just mentioned and he came in and it's just like i'm'm going to beat the shit out of some people. And he's also saying that he's going to go back to when there was a military dictatorship, or at least he's spoken positively about that. And Miles, you were saying that like universities already and just trying to find people who were talking that shit.

And whether it was like taking down anti-fascist posters or whatever, but you can start seeing the censorship. Are you talking about going after professors or students who were like creating organizations on campus? I think it was like a very loose headline just about they were going to campus and I think more so taking materials down. And they may have been breaking up like classes, not like that they were arresting anyone and being like, Hey, this is too, this is like politically subversive speech or whatever.

But you know, this is a, the, the rise of global fascism. Yeah. Fascism, the fasc wave, baby. Well, you know, that's why I got to fight it. Right. And a lot of the reasons why people are more open to fascism is because we are failing to take care of each other and that's where the ideas around especially in this country around socializing medicine and things like that can help alleviate some of these pressures that are on

people that look to someone like trump and be like oh maybe that's the answer to the fact that i'm not i don't have a living wage well socialism was in the name of the nazis national socialist party so therefore you're advocating for nazi propaganda oh right right exactly i don't know if you realized that therefore yes i'm the racist yes uh you talk about white men a lot that's racist right yeah um i i feel like you know them electing him is like us looking at somebody looking at our past. But I do feel like because they have a more recent history of, you know, military dictatorships and not the strong institutional tradition that America has, I feel like this is going to ramp up pretty quickly. And we'll not in not too distant future be looking at our our future or our possible future strong institutions yeah like amazon here like you're talking about last week amazon and the

yeah well let's talk about something happier let's talk about the purest form of escaping the video game because that's one thing that i can load up a bowl and go to a magical place where I'm a cowboy and everything is good. Now, first, I want to talk about the PlayStation Classic that is coming out because that's they're bringing back the OG PlayStation with a bunch of games preloaded on it. And my God, I remember when the first PlayStation came came out i was beyond myself playing the x games game like whoo it just gave me a thrill inside as a child so yeah they're re-releasing this playstation classic and before we reported on it we didn't know what games were on it they talked about stuff that they thought was going to be on it well now we know the games that are going to be on there and they live up to the hype i mean there are some that i kind of find interesting

destruction derby that was one of the first playstation games i bought that was just crashed the shit out of your car against other people what do you want to do very simple metal gear solid i'm not mad at that the resident evil director's cut i'm not mad at that ridge racer type 4 tekken 3 the first uh rainbow six game Metal. If you remember that launch title where you were around in a fucking weird ice cream truck versus another. It was like a bunch of Frankenstein cars. It was sort of like Destruction Derby, but with weapons on the car. Do they have some Madden or FIFA action going on? No.

I feel like sports games, they definitely shied away from. Totally. I mean, if they have FIFA 98 on there, I'm going in. And then also, one of my favorite games, Siphon Filter is also on there. So I'm definitely looking forward to this. The original Grand Theft Auto, is that a good game? Dude, the original Grand Theft Auto was an over-the-top thing. It wasn't like open world.

Grand Theft Auto 3 is the beginning of the end when it was like open world shit where you could just do the wild crimes in the street. This was like the overhead game that looked like Frogger but like for carjacking. Got it. Where you have to go meet a crime boss. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, so we'll see. And then also I got to say Final Fantasy VII. That's one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

Now, moving on. There is a game that people, this has been trending everywhere on the internet because for gamers, the Red Dead Redemption 2 release was a very big thing. That happened at the end of last week. It took my life away as much as I could allow it to. And also the life of someone else that works on the show, one of our editors, Dan. Now, let me bring him in really quick. Hello, everybody.

Hello, hello. This is your boy, DJ Danil. Wow. Wow. Coming in hot. I apologize. My bad. Damn, am I on your show?

So, yeah. Dan, you're the only other person in the office that understands what the fuck is going on. And I told Jack, I was like, if we're going to talk about Red Dead, I probably need somebody in here who knows what I'm talking about. So I don't just seem like a person who's ranting and raving upon the mic. I heard you guys talking to each other this morning. You were like, so what you been up to? And I was like, why is Miles asking Dan that? Miles usually doesn't let Dan talk to him.

And then Dan was like, oh, you know, I've been, I found a fence for some jewelry. I've been getting my gun engraved. I was like, damn, Dan's living that life. I had no idea. Indeed. I have a slightly different life than you're used to, Jack. I apologize for that. Yeah.

Now, Red Dead. Yeah. Let's talk about how beautiful this game is, first of all. Yeah. It is a game where you're basically in one of the largest maps I think I've ever seen in a sandbox type game. Yes, sir. But the details are so good, sometimes I'll just ride a horse, and I just stop, and I just kind of look around, and I'm not doing shit in the game. And I think they know that.

They know that in the game there's a button you can press that just changes it to cinematic camera. It's like as if what you were looking at isn't beautiful enough already. Just hold down this button for a second. We're going to make it an even more beautiful cinematic experience. Next. Yes. What is another thing that you love about the game? The music.

That was the answer, Dan. We should have prepped before we got these audios. I wish the listeners could see how your hand is on your hip in a sassy way. I'm like this. Ready to go. I'm doing a little sassy teapot move right now. Yeah, the music. The music is so good.

It has people like Daniel Landwab contributing to it. I feel like in the one before, Jose Gonzalez had a track on there. They've always strove for beautiful music in these games. The game plays out like, yeah, and look, Dan, I mean, Jack and Noah are looking at each other like, look at these motherfuckers. I don't know what they're talking about. If I may, I think this game in particular scratches on something that a lot of games have been going for, which is creating this landscape that you can truly, truly lose yourself in. Like Eminem. Very much Emin truly lose yourself in. Like Eminem. Very much Eminem

lose yourself. And I think, you know, like Miles was saying, you just ride your horse into an area and all of a sudden you're like, damn, look at that grass. What the hell was I even doing? How high do you have to be to play this game? As you two talk about this,

I am watching Anna's ovaries commit harikari in real time. They've shot out her body and left. So before, okay, you do reproductive harakiri. I got to say, the game also plays like a movie where you'll do a heist or something, and then shit just goes wrong, and suddenly you have to start playing, and you're like, well, the plan is completely different now, like in a movie.

And also, I got to say, with the music thing, there's a hidden d'angelo track in the game somewhere they haven't heard it yet are these all old-timey piano songs that they've written for the no no this is like an acoustic jam that like you can hear d'angelo's voice on it's like an unreleased track but they're all sung by prospectors playing uh an accordion an accordion around the wood fire. Oh yeah, and just a wash bucket. You joke, but there's plenty of that as well. If you go to any of the towns, go into a saloon,

all of a sudden half the people are just drunk singing and you can join in if you like. You hold down square and all of a sudden you're singing a happy tune. One thing I will say as far as the game, they could explain to your boy how to play a little bit more. Yeah, it's not holding your hand. They dump you in. There are almost too many options to the point where if, they could, they could explain to your boy how to play a little bit more. I, it's not holding your hand.

They dump you in. Like there are almost too many options to the point where if you're high, you might just be trying to beat the shit out of a fucking rabbit with a knife or something. Trying to skin a bunch of rabbits with just aimlessly. I would like a little nudging from the developers to tell me where to go. If at all. Do you have any doubt that at some point in the near future, you will figure it out?

I know, I know I will. Right. But you're used to like, you know, you play GTA, right? Yeah. And you have any doubt that at some point in the near future you will figure it out? No, I know I will. Right. But you're used to like, you know, you play GTA, right? Yeah. And you know, after you do a mission it'll be like,

yo, go meet so-and-so right here real quick to do this thing. And you could if you wanted to but you didn't always have to listen to it but at least the game prompted you to sort of be like,

this is sort of what we're trying to get you to do narratively whereas this one like, you'll end a mission and then you're just in the middle of of the prairie. This is 2018 parenting, baby.

We let him make his own decisions. And now look at me. I don't know what to do. It's also a prequel. So there's a little bit of in the game of kind of waiting for certain stuff to happen that it's not letting you know is about to happen. You're seeing all these characters

that are bad guys in the first game. And you're like, wait a minute. When is he going to turn? When's it going to happen? I just want to say, if you're a gamer these characters that are bad guys in the first game, and you're like, wait a minute. When is he going to turn? When's it going to happen? I just want to say, if you're a gamer who hasn't gamed in a while, and you enjoyed, like, any sandbox game. These are real gamer hours. This is the, this is a, this will bring you back.

Because welcome to 2018, and you're going to be like, yo, the game has literally changed. What do you have to have to play this game? You have to have a. Atari? No, you have to have a PlayStation 4, a PS4 Pro, a TV that does 4K, a pack of backwoods, and at least some OG fish. So how expensive is this? Like the skiing of video games where it's incredibly expensive just to enter into?

$60 game. Standard price. Standard disc, baby. You know what I mean? I'll upsell you later, Noah. I'm going to get you on this. You two are both sweating right now. Yeah.

It's hot in the studio. I'm nervous. Well, you got sweatpants on and a long sleeve. You're dressed like it's winter. Well, it's really cold upstairs in my little corner that no one talks to me in. Now we're letting people know. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out, man.

You freaked us out enough. But yeah, so that's what talks to me. Now we're letting people know. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out, man. You freaked us out enough. But yeah, so that's what's going on. If you see people who have probably bailed on plans you had this last week and they play video games, that's probably the reason why. Let me ask you this. What kind of toll do you think this is going to take on your relationship?

See, this is the thing, and I tell people this all the time. If you game and that's part of your shit, be honest with your partner off the rip. So she knows. She knows. And i don't get lost in games that often where i'm like yo i need like 48 hours to vanish off earth and you know her majesty she understands that because is that what you need for 48 hours well i need like to get over the first like hump and then i can just play here and there and i can just sort of maintain it but like hump and then I can just play here and there

and I can just sort of maintain it. But like I do need to sort of regress and go like to a time when I had all the time in the world and just sort of just grind out on the game. And were you straight up not asleep for two days, just 48 hours? Nah, that's the thing I realized as I get older. I'm like, I used to be able to just like play a game like into four o'clock at night or whatever. And I don't know if I'm just eating too heavy or something before but like around like 12 30 i'm just like your carb carb loading yeah just eating

a baguette and then i'm just falling asleep but yeah you know it's hard being older man yeah that's what it is man that's it's like those people who are like i don't know man i'm getting like my head hurts more and i'm getting like the Russians must be attacking me with sonic waves and it's like nah dude you're just getting older that's just what happened well it's very different worlds we live in because the last time the game came out the first one Red Dead Redemption that was in 2010 so eight years is a long time for my like physiology to change in my gaming habits because the last when the last one came out, that's when I was like, gross. And I didn't have friends.

I neglected all my relationships. My mom was like, there's a smell coming from your room because that's how well I was doing. I was like, well, my mom is playing this game, OD. That was very telling. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But now it's like, you know, a little bit older, a little bit slower. Grown man miles on the ones and twos. Grown man miles looking really pathetic when I'm like nodding off with a controller in my hand. And for people who don't play video games

who think we're spending too much time talking about this, if we were honestly reflecting the zeitgeist of our listeners, we would have talked about nothing but Red Dead Redemption today because it's all over the place. It's all anyone's talking about. And also another great thing, underrated thing about this game,

the physics of riding a horse are very realistic. I've been involved in many fatal horse accidents where I'm riding a horse and I hit a tree or just some other obstacle and you can injure yourself

severely falling off a horse before you didn't respect the horse. Have you been on a horse in real life? Yes. Frightening as shit. Painful too, too man i did a three hour it ended up being three hours out three hours back oh on a horse oh yeah for the first

time i ever rode on a horse when i got back that's just some masochistic shit yeah it was like i got back my batman costume didn't fit all right that's a good one to end on. Noah, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Thank you. Where can people find you and follow you? At Noah G Comedy on Twitter and Instagram. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? No. No.

It's all right. I got a bunch. Yeah. Yeah. I'm all ears for your enjoyable tweets. Okay. Miles. Yeah. Where'm all ears for your enjoyable tweets. Miles, where can people find you, follow you? You can find me in West Elizabeth, riding the planes upon my horse, my steed.

But in social media, at Miles of Grey. I gotta figure out how to do Twitch, because I feel like I would entertain y'all. Just me riding around, just being a good or bad cowboy Tweet I like though comes from Yusuf Roach, past guest at Yusuf Roach, it said Every girl on Tinder wants quote unquote adventure, but the second you find drugs

on the ground it's all put that down That's good You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien By the way are there O'Brien Are there any songs Like from Bon Jovi

About like That are about the similarities Between being a rock star And being a cowboy In Red Dead Redemption No I mean Wanted Dead or Alive Yeah like Wanted Dead or Alive

Or there was that other one From Young Guns 2 Oh yeah Oh Young Guns 2 Wasn'ted Dead or Alive? Yeah, like Wanted Dead or Alive, or there was that other one from Young Guns 2. Oh, yeah. Oh, Young Guns 2. Wasn't he in Young Guns? Yeah. That's why he got shot. He just got smoked real quick.

And I remember, I was like, oh, Lou Diamond Phillips looks like me. That's funny. Some tweets I've been enjoying, guys. I took some comfort in Twitter over the weekend, because even though the world is terrible, Twitter's good at helping me deal with that. Really? You're one of the few people who says that.

Yeah. Twitter helps you. Yeah. You found that, because you look at the good side of the moon. That's right. El Glicko, he tweeted a screen cap of the MAGA bomber van, and he said, this van looks like what Steve Bannon would turn into if he was a transformer. this van looks like, what Steve Bannon would turn into if he was a transformer.

By the way, Fox News was blurring out all the pictures on the side of the van so that it wouldn't be clear to their viewers that it was all stories from their shit. Alyssa Limparis retweeted Henry Winkler. So she tweeted, me, I hate that person. I'm finally going to tell them off. That person. Hi. Me. And then she retweeted Henry Winkler who tweeted, I hope you are so fine and we'll have a glorious

weekend. Which is just a weird old famous guy tweet that is also totally how I get mad at people. I'll go out on that. I'll share some of the other ones with you. I just spent this entire segment while you two were talking,

scrolling my feed, looking for a tweet that was worthy of me sharing on the segment. Unfortunately, I just find this to be an incredibly depressing sight. All right, I'll give you one. At nobody stopped me on Twitter tweeted, on mushrooms ripping my Halloween costume apart. All right. Yeah, I'll take that. All right.

I'll take that one on board. You can find us on Twitter, at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on you can also find that information in the show notes uh miles what

song are we gonna ride out on today we are going to go out uh on another track from skin shape which was a band uh we went went out on a couple weeks ago, a track called Detroit. But this track now is called I Won't Be There. Again, it's nice to hear people play instruments and really rock them and really get to rumpin' and tumpin' on those things because there's not enough rumpin' and a tumpin' these days. Are you playing?

Here, here. Rumpin' and a tumpin'. Are you playing the band Skin Shape because of my Batman costume? No, no, no. This is their song called Deformed Ball Bag And uh Skin Shape I won't be there Enjoy this little snippet

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