The Daily Zeitgeist - JFK Assassination Tourism, Nancy Kerrigan > Shakespeare? 11.22.23

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

In episode 1586, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by hosts of Celebrity Book Club with Steven & Lily, Steven Phillips-Horst and Lily Marotta, to discuss… X Is Suing Media Matters For Pointing Out Their Obvious Nazi Problem, JFK Assination Tourism Is Kinda Weird and more! X Is Suing Media Matters For Pointing Out Their Obvious Nazi Problem As Musk endorses antisemitic conspiracy theory, X has been placing ads for Apple, Bravo, IBM, Oracle, and Xfinity next to pro-Nazi content Apple, Disney, other media companies pause advertising on X after Elon Musk boosted antisemitic tweet "PR stunt masquerading as a lawsuit": Experts slam Elon Musk's attack on Media Matters' reporting Andrew Tate said he'd give $1M a month to Elon Musk after major companies suspended their ad campaigns on X. It's not nearly enough to help him. JFK Assination Tourism Is Kinda Weird Where to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the JFK assassination What's With the 'JFK Was Here' Banners in Downtown? Mixing Tragedy With Art In Dallas; Book Depository Site Now Includes Gallery JFK: Dallas recalls its low point Punches, Cussing, Threats: Tour Guides' Tasteful Treatment of JFK's Death When I Visited The Site of JFK’s Assassination in Dallas, I Was Appalled By What I Saw Visitors Doing JFKCustom TOURS LISTEN: Blue Nile by Mulatu Astatke & The HeliocentricsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 314 episode 3 of their daily's i guys stay production of iheart radio yep yep sure sure is this is the podcast where we take a deep dive into American Shared Consciousness, and it is Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Come and hop on our pod. Come and hop on our pod. We've been waiting for you.

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and brilliant producer and tv writer you know him from the you as this racist podcast it's andrew t and aka andrew t thousand this album new blue sun i'm in atlanta right now so it's on my mind t T-thousand. It doesn't, it kind of doesn't make sense, but it sort of makes a little sense. Yes. I love it.

Have you been listening? I did the other night actually, but it was, I really love it. I fucking love it. It was a very passive listen. Yes. So.

It's meant to be listened to passively. Yeah. I just did my second listen today and really loved it. I was like, oh, these are getting better. Here's the thing with me is that I put it on when I had some folks over for dinner a couple days ago. And I put it on. But once Spotify got to the end, it just continues playing other flutes, you know, like similar music. Other flute music, yeah.

Yeah, so I just didn't realize when it started and when it began. So I could not tell you if I like it or I liked some other thing. Like a middle school flute recital? I liked what the algorithm generated off of it. Like the whole experience over a few hours was very good. the algorithm generated off of it. The whole experience over a few hours was very good, so I assume I like it. There you go. I programmatically like it.

We are thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seat. What? Yes, it's one of those. The studio's cramped. Look, the studio is crammed. It's sweaty. We're all just elbow to elbow in here. They're the hosts of the podcast Celebrity Book Club. There are times when I'm doing research for

the guest and I start listening to their podcast or their standup special and I can't stop. And that's what happened to me this morning. So good news, bad news, good news, great guests, bad news. My takes in the news section are going to be really half-baked because I spent the morning listening to their Britney Spears episode. Please welcome Stephen Phillips Horst and Lily Murata! Hello! What's up, guys? Wow, you flatter.

Yeah, you really do. The show's so good. It's so fun. Thank you so much. Oh my God, I'm a listener now. Yeah, you really do. The show's so good. It's so fun. Thank you so much. Oh my God, I'm a listener now. Yeah, join the club. Join the hundreds of people who listen to our podcast every week. It's so fun.

I learned so much about Brittany. Yeah, it was just, you guys are really fun to listen to talk about Brittany. And I feel like there's always people who read celebrity books and like celebrity autobiographies, like always come away with great stories. So I'm looking forward to kind of digging in. These are the stories we need to tell our grandchildren. That's why we do it just to, you know, keep the generations informed. Little John is going to be on my knees and be like, Daddy, or I guess Granddaddy, tell me more about that bestseller from 2023.

I'll be like, well, gather around, Sheltra. Yeah. And it's not always like the big zeitgeist. Like your most recent episode, I guess, is the Nancy Kerrigan. Yeah. We like to switch it up you know when everyone zigs we like to zag but sometimes you have to zig when everyone else is zigging otherwise

you know what are you doing you know she she used to be a zeitgeist person but yeah no you know bring former zeitgeist people back into the guys for a second yeah re-geist them that's right re-geist yeah and the good news is this week the media tries to make it so that no news happens on purpose this week i guess they really like clear the decks so the people at tmz can be home with their families or whatever i do i do still remember tiger woods getting like didn't he have a thing over thanksgiving holiday where he like got caught drunk driving or like that was that the big crap the big tiger it was like the first the yeah it was the first one where it was like oh tiger woods gets drunk and he was like blacked out and the like i don't know there there was something with a car and him passing out and getting hit

in the head with something. I think his wife hit him with a golf club. With a golf club because she found out he cheated. It's what's lying around the house. What are you going to hit Tiger Woods with?

A bat? That'd be crazy. That's what they were eating their Thanksgiving dinner with. It was just various golf clubs. That's right. A bat? Like, that'd be crazy. That's what they were eating their Thanksgiving dinner with, was just various golf clubs. That's what they use at the table. And then, of course, the JFK assassination, which was the Tiger Woods getting hit with a golf club of a previous generation. You know, everybody remembers where they were. But, all right.

Well, we're going to get to know you guys a little bit better my mom gets to know you guys yeah you know i will say my mom's obsessed with telling this story about how she remembers where she was when jfk was assassinated she always says and the nuns wheeled in the televisions and you know they all watched walter concrete or whatever but that would sort of suggest that they weren't all gathered around the turkey table. It was a week so it was the Thursday before Thanksgiving but the anniversary is tomorrow. So I guess this is

a very early Thanksgiving. What is time? What is time really in the end? That's right. So Thanksgiving that year was the 28th. Oh, that's a late-ass Thanksgiving. A late-giving. That's right. that because it is the anniversary of the JFK assassination. And you know I love talking JFK assassination. We're going to take a look at the strange world of JFK assassination tourism. We might talk about X suing Media Matters for doing a story on them, just like doing reporting

the facts about how many Nazis there are. All of that. Plenty more. But before we get to any of it, we do like to ask our guests, Stephen, Lily, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh. Wow.

Okay. Okay. Take me out to dinner first. Yeah. I don't know if this accounts as search history but i went down a wikipedia hole last night while i was trying to fall asleep yes okay we'll allow it i don't know how this happened but it was like 3 a.m and my boyfriend yeah that's right my boyfriend was asleep next to me and uh you know he's snoring away and i was playing solitaire it wasn't really

working i was like what's gonna what's gonna calm down this crazy brain of mine you know what's gonna just too many thoughts i ended up on the wikipedia page for k2 the second highest mountain in the world i don't know if y'all are familiar oh yeah i think there's a movie called k2 right that's i mean there's a ski brand called k2 so why wouldn't there be a movie I just thought it was a ski brand I had no idea it was a mountain wake up Lily my favorite movie Burton I love that movie

my favorite movie Volcom, Burton and Vans if there was an Oakley movie I would watch hell yeah, Wraparound Shades the film franchise based around the Wraparound Shades oh my god there's no way that would be like oscar winner yeah that's a pure oscar bait they could have that scene do you remember lily so like not to sort of like plug our podcast but when we read andre agassi's book

he has a little anecdote he shares where at one point oakley was one of his sponsors and just as a congrats for him winning some tournament they drove a truck arrives at his huge house and unloads off the truck is a Dodge Viper brand new Dodge Viper they were just like the Oakley of cars yeah like I think it's wearing Oakley it's a wraparound car

it's very horizontal and like curvy yeah maybe they were like designed by the same person by the way there is a film 1991's k2 the ultimate high oh that's what it says underneath it yeah anyway it's the ultimate high because it's quite dangerous yes and you know that's what i hear you know everyone and their mom summits ever ever it's like every day you know there's probably once you get to the top there's like a line to take yourself and then you're on your way back down. But K2, it's insanely dangerous.

Only 100 people have done it like or a couple hundred in the history of, you know, time. And there was this one, you know, horrible disaster in 2008 where I guess 11 people died over the course of two days. And I was just reading this harrowing story on Wikipedia. Sometimes the reportage on Wikipedia is really quite breathtaking. Like it's, you you know it's written like a really exciting novel or something well it's written by the most passionate hobbyist on earth almost always right yeah you go if you're editing a wikipedia page you care you give a shit yeah and so you're seeing that that's sort of like beautiful nerdy dedication to a subject but it was just

really harrowing and it and you know there's all these like avalanches and ice falling and and people like tripping over wires and finding each other's bodies and then slipping and then dying and and then it's you know zero degrees and everyone's freezing to death and it just really made me not want to climb i also assume this didn't make you fall asleep this would make me like stay up fearing i don't know avalanche here's what was weird it was so calming and maybe it was reading about cold you know that kind of just lowers the heart rate yeah yeah i think for some reason i found it calming and i wonder if it's reading about cold

you know kind of lowers well warm and bed while warm and bed kind of like lowers your internal temperature and like slows down you know your whole system that's a great there might be a psychosomatic connection there and that's my hot or should i say cold take damn damn yes i'm burr lily what is what is something from take. Damn. Damn. Yes. I'm burning. Burr. Lily, what is something from your search history? So, you know, I saw the email and I said, let's take a look. And I think this truly does

reveal my personality. It was just so many searches on a guy my friend went on two dates with. Where I'm just like looking at his twitter feed like looking at random photos like an interview with him from like 2003 so yeah i think i spent 2003 so this is like an old guy he says a little bit maybe 03 is a little far i'm actually changing

dates because i love privacy for his middle i want to give the gossip but i don't want to give this man's full age but yeah i'll go deep on a random man i don't know if you tell me you're gonna go on one date with him and does your friend know that you're doing the deep dive is this like something you'll report back. Yeah, she was like, this is his full name. So, you know, she was giving me the deets. Just like the last four digits of his social, not the whole thing.

So now I have, you know, cut to me, like, I'm on Ancestry.com. I'm trying to figure out if I'm related to him. Right. Here's his PlayStation username. And then this is, I believe, a burner account. So you can search yeah he posted this on reddit on his burner account um

interesting what is something that you guys think is underrated underrated underrated that's rare what is underrated i mean i just started watching will and grace again from like season one but i don't feel like it's underrated i don't think it's underrated it's a pretty popular successful show it was like yeah um you can start with overrated if that, if that's, if we want to work up to the underrated. Okay. I'll, I have one for this kind of, I guess this is underrated and kind of a mix.

I do think my underrated, even though it's a really popular fast food chain of Popeye's, but I do think what's overrated is really like different expensive types of fried chicken where I'm just like, I don't know how much better you can get for you know this 34 at a fancy restaurant is it going to be better than popeyes yeah yeah kind of nailed it haven't they and the whole point of fried chicken is that it's like supposed to be the cheap it's cheap it's like right why make it nicer than it is i do think

okay i like i like the popeyes and it's so buttery and there's a flakiness the skin that's really exciting i when i get start getting into the bone territory on a popeyes i do i feel like i start to see the quality deteriorate and those bones do make me a little uncomfortable and i think they can be they can be brittle they can be colors that don't feel super health forward and when i'm looking at a more to quote the maren morris song if the bones are good right so you're saying the bones i'm saying that the bones aren't so good and it's kind of like it's one of those things or you know how you can feed like raw chicken to a dog and it can eat it bones and all like i don't know if the raw chicken they're using at popeyes is even is totally like doggable i worry about those bones breaking and

hurting my dog's trachea not that i would ever own a dog that's what's overrated in my opinion is dogs you got their dog ownership thank you yeah there you go that's that was the journey so you i'm just having do you want a sturdy bone in your fried chicken? Or are you saying- When I get to the bone, I want like a gorgeous piece of porcelain under there. You want a gorgeous gleaming kind of, yes. Bone colored bone.

I want a bone colored bone, some sort of alabaster sculpture that I could mount on the wall. You want like a cartoon bone, like that and it's like a perfect skeleton. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't have to be like such a massive femur,

but Andrew did pull it out of his mouth with two hands. How clean are your bones when you're done with fried chicken, by the way? i would say with wings i'm cleaning them hard i take great great pride in the cleanliness of my bones that it's just just bone no grizzle hell yeah after a lifetime growing up as as a white american where i'm leaving so much grizzle on the bone and then my wife was like

what the fuck are you doing this is allyship right here this is this is this is amazing she was like this is and i can't let you continue on like this and now we have clean bones and i take great pride that's what marriage does yeah that's right it makes you a better person that also feels like a dating like you know 20, you know, a guy is going to be good in bed. They're like, go up for wings. Like, if he eats the whole wing, like, you know. Like, he knows how to go down. Yes, ladies.

Yes, ladies. He knows how to please a woman. Please, a woman. My friend married a white guy and she was sending us pictures of his plates from their honeymoon, complaining about how he didn't clean various meats off of various bones. Wow. And it could not have been a worse sign. I've never seen something more terrible. From the honeymoon? Oh, they're not making it.

Literally from Hawaii. It was amazing. Sounds like he wasn't eating the chicken or her. Are they still i don't assume they're divorced they're together for now but okay he was updated we're keeping our eye on them yeah i'm just gonna post a picture from the honeymoon when it all goes bad and just say we all knew this was gonna go down right we could tell from the Yeah. I'm sure she'll appreciate that. Yeah.

They use it like in divorce court. Yeah. She gets, he's getting everything. Are you kidding? I would say I'm, I'm probably definitely more in the white stereotype of not getting all to the gristle.

You know, I feel like I get, I get the, I get the good parts, but then I also might hand the rest of it to a friend, to a hungry friend. That's right. I'm not above it.

When I'm around, I'll clean. I went to one of those Japanese joints where they give you the whole shrimp and the shrimp heads were like grilled hard enough. And they brought a bowl for the shrimp heads. And I was like, no, no, no, we don't need that shit. We're eating the heads. We're all Asian people here. And all of my friends sold me out. They're like, actually, I don't really. So I had to eat like nine shrimp heads. I thought I was going to have like anaphylactic shock. It was not good.

Yeah. You were like, yeah, literally like we are not pussies like we can do this and they're like no i would take the bowl and you're like okay that's crazy i love shrimp heads i love eating head on shrimp even when you're like not supposed to i'll eat the whole damn head yes with all the little antenna and the eyes and everything. They're so good. Yes. As smart as a shrimp. That's what we say around these parts. Just trying to be as smart as any given shrimp.

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X is suing Media Matters for pointing out their obvious Nazi problem. So Media Matters did an analysis that showed how ads from big brands were popping up next to pro-Nazi posts. And it's like, they're not subtle. The pro-Nazi posts have gotten very unsubtle. Have you guys noticed that? They're like, what enlightenment looks like, what people think spiritual awakening is like versus what it's actually like and it's like somebody doing yoga versus just like a picture of hitler and like hitler guys like and like brown shirts they're like that's that's your real spiritual enlightenment it's but anyways that is right next to an apple right next to an apple

ad which i feel like apple can't be can't be thrilled about so you know media matters reported they'd found at least five major brands with ads next to posts that tout tout hitler and his nazi party on x we're touting hitler but apple and ibm paused their ad spending on x as did companies like disney paramount warner brothers discovery probably not just because of the media matters article and probably also because elon musk's most recent posts have accused jewish communities of pushing hatred against whites so you know just reminding everyone what real anti-semitism looks like he's gone hard on that stuff yeah it's it's really like

how i mean you you i just assumed twitter used to be like the worst people on earth and it is actually truly amazing to see what actually the worst people can be yeah it's coming strong we thought it was like the worst it could be and there it turns out there was like a thousand people behind the scenes just like working day and night to keep it as good as it was. And they just fired all those people. So yeah, this is now just a slurry, a flood of garbage juice that they were fighting their hardest to hold back. I'm curious as to who has ever clicked on an ad on Twitter ever. I'm a little like,

has that ever proved useful for any company to advertise on Twitter? Have you ever purchased something from an ad you saw on Twitter at any point in Twitter's history? That's the only way I get anything is I just clicking through Twitter ads and banner ads is how I find out about all my stuff and all the free. I am the spam bot that's like accidentally being like, actually, yeah, I will click on this Pizza Hut ad to find out about all my stuff and all the free. I am the spam bot that's like accidentally being like, actually, yeah, I will click on this Pizza Hut ad to find out about stuffed crust. And then like instantly I'm having a message. From Twitter?

From Twitter? Look, this is, there was one time, this is just, it only happened once. I was intrigued what they were selling with their D quote unquote and this is an overrated Detroit style pizza and I was just curious what they were talking about

and yeah so I clicked I will say this did you buy the pizza? No I just wanted to learn about it so the conversion rate on that is zero anecdotally right now. It's still though, like learning about new fast food has to be one of Twitter's remaining uses.

It's like, oh, fuck. They're putting, you know, they're making hamburgers at Del Taco for some reason. Yeah. I guess I'm compelled to try it. But then aren't you seeing that like isn't that like just some sort of viral video that you're seeing that's like a screen grab or some ad that someone else is posting you're seeing it on twitter versus like you're seeing a sponsor post for it because that kind of for it yeah like that kind of advertising you know it's like you know we i

learn about a lot of television shows and movies that people are talking about because people talk about on twitter that you know that's's advertising for Netflix or whatever it is. That's not going to go away. And I think that's still probably what these companies find most valuable at Twitter versus this ad for T-Mobile that no one's clicking on. Or maybe people are and I'm not clicking and I'm just being, you know, I've got my head in the sand, and it actually is, like, a valuable place. Grandpa, everyone's buying cell phone service via a sponsored link. Yeah. The biggest, like, propaganda I've seen recently is I was watching a new Lifetime lesbian thriller starring Chrishell of Selling Sunset and there was like crazy

like Israeli army propaganda that was also then right after that played a Bounty Paper Towel ad and I was like this is kind of what I was not expecting from the ads of a lifetime fan. And not only that but it worked.

It worked. I joined. Yeah. You joined the IDF. Amazing. Bounty paper towel. Perfect for wiping up just anything. Anything. You might need one.

Any cleanups. You know, doesn't matter where they came from. But to your point, I've not heard I've not even heard of people really successfully like buying, you know, a product being advertised on Twitter and converting into a sale. And yet Apple's ad money alone totaled approximately one hundred million dollars in 2022. Yeah. Which. Wow. So that's a lot to be paused to put on pause.

They couldn't spend that on making the phones work better? They didn't want to make the phones work better. They want us to just keep on buying bad phones. see the ad and buy it. You're just supposed to have this pervasive sense that everyone's using an iPhone. You're just supposed to know that Apple controls your life and they're unavoidable. And enjoy it. Yeah. I love my Overlord. I mean, I guess it makes me think how Stephen's

mother bought an electric Mustang because she hates Elon so much. Oh, right. She didn't want to buy a tesla yeah no i mean once you know he's losing the boomer liberals he's losing apple he's he's gonna lose it all i mean i will say i don't think elon ever purchased twitter as like a financial it was always supposed to be like financially unfitable and Twitter has always been like not profitable right I mean I just think the whole point of Twitter is it's like you know it's a public forum

it's a place to talk it's like it's never gonna really make anyone a lot of money and he bought it as a vanity project and you know it remains it remains that way you know and it was already his vanity project has like turned his brand and all of like so much of his wealth was based on his brand.

And he's just like fucking turned it so toxic and just shit all over it. Right. It's only helped him make him look like a 1980s movie creepy computer villain, which is like his vibe. Yeah. Like not that smart. Usually they those people were like magic and like smart and could solve everything with computers and like he seems kind of like a fuck up at this point yeah did you guys even think about covering like is that this sort of celebrity like does he count

as a celebrity would you cover the walter isaacson elon musk book well we only we we um we're a literary criticism pod so we um and we use books as a way to talk about the author so if we did that book we would if we did an episode on walter isaacson we might do that book but we wouldn't do but it would have to be we don't do like bios yeah so we could maybe do we could maybe do a whole book on, you know, an episode on an Elon tweet or something, or an Elon tweet thread. That could be interesting. That could count as a book. We could do his deposition. Yeah.

I can't wait, because eventually he's going to have an autobiography ghostwritten, and it is going to be the most insane thing. So epic. Oh, yeah. Is there a book that you guys reviewed where you were like holy shit like nancy kerrigan is the great like literary voice of our time and we just didn't know we didn't realize it or is there somebody who like was just unexpectedly

a great writer or like just had like really poignant moments definitely wasn't nancy carrigan i would not have expected that i will say you know a you know an underrated actress but a vulnerable great comedian is um the actress of desperate houseate Housewives, Terry Hatcher. Her book was so fun, so funny, so real, so vulnerable in a way that, you know, some celebrities aren't ready to write about themselves in that way. Wow. Yeah, I'm going to give it up to Terry Hatcher. Yeah, Terry Hatcher's was super revealing.

I mean, I do tend to think some of the better books are just good because they have good ghost writers. Yeah. You know, Andre Agassi's book and Prince Harry's book are both ghost written by this guy, J.R. Morringer, who's a great writer. And it's like Prince Harry is a completely unsympathetic character. But the writing is it's it's occasionally quite gripping, you know, really well done. Yeah. Yeah. Did you read the New Yorker article by him about writing the Prince Harry book?

I want to say I did. And then it was all like... Yeah, let's just pretend you did. It's really good. It was a while back. Wait, at this point, does that mean y'all have like a list of your favorite ghost writers?

I mean, kind of. I guess. I mean, usually the ghost writer is not that prominent i mean you know the whole you know emphasis on ghost sure sure well because there's i feel like two schools there's the memoir that will be like you know someone with like louisa farrenson and you're like okay they're putting the ghostwriter out there or it will just be like demi more but it turns out the demi more book was by right i'm blanking on her name ariel levy yeah ariel levy and that book was like so well written my favorite ghostwriter was we did demi lovato's mother's memoir and hers was ghostwritten by this woman and i went to her website and like all of her other credits were just from like a local interior design magazine in pennsylvania

fuck yes yeah that's the dream gig yeah she shot for the moon on that one never stopped trying yeah and she was really good. She was. No, but I just loved her. It's just her friend from who was like, yeah. I mean, that book was insane because the whole time you're reading it, you're just like, this is Demi Lovato's mom. And just like every page you're like, OK, so you really thought like you're like we needed to know know this like what it was like raising the other yeah right yeah other levato she focuses mainly on that yeah there's a there's a whole handful but overall do you guys have your do you have your favorite just book in general like the one that you recommend to people when they're like okay you're this is what your podcast is about like what's the one

that i should read that like nobody well ideally you would listen to the podcast and then you wouldn't have to read anything right there you go hold on i'm intrigued by not reading you know that's that's what we really try to impart to our listeners. Stop spending money on Barnes & Noble. Cut up your Barnes & Noble card, okay? All you've got to do is listen to our podcast.

The interest rate on Barnes & Noble credit cards are crazy. It's insane. It's like 30%. They're nickel and diming you over there. Barnes & Noble are like nickel and dime.

It's awful. But I would say my favorite books are I tend to like either the ones that are super sassy and have a ton of like tea and dirt in them. So I would say Jan i my favorite books are i tend to like either the ones that are super sassy and have a ton of like tea and dirt in them so i always say janice dickinson is a real fun one for that you know there's just tons of drugs and sex and celebrities and you know she's stealing a car

from the pope and then like fucking antonio ben or like liam neeson on a beach and she is telling you how big his dick is like that's pretty big right oh she describes it as an an evian bottle wow which is something i will never stop thinking about like the teardrop one like it maybe it oh wow no it's very weird weirdly shaped also yeah yeah it's huge the teardrop and troubling yeah and then also in that category put mike lindell the my pillow guy who has a self-published memoir which is just incredible and it's just again it's just he's always like blowing an eight ball of coke while he's being chased by the cops and then like almost getting murdered in mexico before he's down $40,000 in Vegas and then doing crap for a week

and never leaving a house. It's really insane. And that one feels very un... I feel like my favorites are the ones that really, both of those, don't feel ghostwritten. It feels like... My favorite scene from a film is the 1956

film Auntie Mame with Rosalind Russell. And it's about this fabulous woman and finally her son hires a secretary to write her memoirs. And it's just her walking around her huge apartment as a nerdy woman types.

That is how I feel like my favorite books get written. A rich person walking around talking to someone. Yeah. Just like scribbling it down. Yeah. Visibly. Yeah.

That's exactly right. Like the best celebrity memoirs are essentially like the ghost writers, more of a copy editor slash slight organizer of whatever is coming out of their mouth. Who's afraid for their life. Yeah. Kind of the entire time. It's like,

there's some, some severe sunset Boulevard vibes involved. They're like, this person might kill me at the end of this. And that's how, you know, it's a good celebrity memoir. Amazing.

There's also the ones I'll say where just the person themselves is a writer. And so then those are good. Like Nora Ephron or like Tina Brown, where it's just like oh they're just like a fabulous new york lady who has like who just has an arch turn of phrase and right just been saving up these burns for like 40 years exactly like using them at cocktail parties yeah now they're like no oh yeah tina brown will just be like kissinger looked terrible she wrote that on a napkin like you know that she found in like an old desk and she's like exactly right i forgot about this kissinger looked terrible kissinger looked terrible

amazing can picture kissinger in the mirror before he leaves. Yeah. Before he leaves, just being like, I look like shit. Damn it. Yeah. Have to go bomb a country now. They didn't moisturize back then. They didn't know about it. Too real. Too real.

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iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back and today is of course the 60th anniversary of the jK assassination. I'm sure you guys knew that. You've been preparing. You have your little party scheduled. I have a pinata that you shoot, actually. I don't know what you guys do.

I'm renting a Cadillac tonight to do a drive throughout my neighborhood. Steven's going to shoot me. I'm going to shoot you. I'm making my famous pillbox hat pie for Thanksgiving. A little pink.

I love it. I just sit in the upper window and throw firecrackers out of it so that, you know, people get scared. Thank God we're talking about JFK, just as a mass hole, you know. We love JFfk we love

jfk our only president first catholic president that's right praise be i hear it's not safe in dallas for catholics uh according to that hold steady lyric but yeah so there's a lot of events going on in dallas to commemorate it And they're kind of... So the movie theater where Lee Harvey Oswald was captured will be playing the actual double feature that was playing when he snuck into the theater. Whoa. I'm literally booking tickets.

That sounds so fun. I have been to that theater before. I was visiting a friend in Dallas and we were like, fuck it, let's go see a movie. And then she was like, we get in and she's like, fuck it, let's go see a movie. And then she was like, we get in. She was like, you know, this is where Lee Harvey Oswald hung out.

And we watched Paris Dispatch and it was only okay. Paris Dispatch? I don't even know that one. Or is that the Wes Anderson? What's it fucking called? The French Dispatch. French Dispatch, yes. My bad.

They didn't get so specific and that's actually wes anderson films were playing when jfk died i know a lot of people don't know that yeah but it's i don't know have you guys ever been to dallas like have you ever been to dealey plaza or no i feel like so like i have not yeah been to dallas but i feel like I have not been to Dallas, but I feel like growing up in Mass, you can't turn right, left, without some JFK-ness

thrift stores or people talking about when he died or plates with his face on it. Plates from the thrift store. Yeah, it's like JFK is deep in the culture and it worked i mean he's one of my style icons and i feel like i've always been like obsessed with like you know him and sinatra and marilyn monroe and how like what cool guys they all were

but what about the death lily did that fascinate you in the same way the death okay so it's so interesting you asked me that jack ruby you know it was quite a tumultuous time for america in the 60s i wanted to this is very me i was like as a kid like a kind of 13 year old i was like i want to get into conspiracy jfk stuff and that that was like on my list of to-dos as a teen. But I never fully kind of went there. But I was like, this is something I could have fun with. Never too late. It's true. I think that is more of an older activity.

Oh, yes. And I guess if you're going to get into conspiracies now, this is quaint at this point. Right. It's such a retro like oh what a cute conspiracy yeah yeah yeah there's so many more places you could go like dallas has a weird weird relationship to it like i don't know when when kennedy was like traveling to dallas people were like this is dangerous people in dallas fucking hate guy. Like it's, he better be careful.

Like before it was like, it was not seen as like a safe move. And then like the museum, the person who owned the book depository, like took the window that Lee Harvey Oswald shot him from out of the side of the depository and, and put it in his house. Yeah.

And put it in his house as like, and put it in his house as a trophy for years. You know? Yeah, just like on a table window. Yeah, I don't know if he had it installed or how he had it, but

yeah, it was like a thing that he was like, yeah, we did it guys. There's a good book about the Bush family But yeah, it was like a thing that he was like, yeah, we did it, guys. And I don't know. There's a good book about the Bush family that talks about how like George H.W. Bush was in Dallas at the time. It was like one of the first people the CIA called like after he was assassinated. But he was not like actually a CIA agent. He was not like nominally aia agent he was not like nominally a cia agent at that time that's the only

cia connection that george hw bush had before they made him the head of the cia like so it's like very people were like wait why is he becoming the head of the cia he has nothing to do with the cia and they're like nothing that you know of to do with the cia but he was literally the first person we called when kennedy was assassinated and there's just like all you know and that's that's bush country down there in texas and so what the theory is that weird is that they did they called him and they were like we did it honey yeah like yeah and he's just like oh thank you way to go yeah nice shot nice shot

nice shot H like the 20th century is just some Hatfield and McCoy's shit when you go to this level it's just like a like family feuds I know it's like we don't have no one gets like you know classically assassinated anymore like they used to I know I know. It's like we don't have, no one gets like, you know, classically assassinated anymore like they used to.

Yeah. I know. I know. People always say we live in a crazy time when it's like, honey, let me tell you about a little decade called the 60s. Okay. Political leaders are getting assassinated left and right. And we miss that. Like we miss kidnapping. Is that right, Lily?

Yeah, it's kidnapping. It's, you know, everyone's, it's when men wore hats to assassinate, you know. Thank you. You dressed up. And wasn't, and Jack Ruby wore a hat

when he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, wasn't he? And now I'm just making, this is apocryphal, but it could be true. If he wasn't wearing a hat when he assassinated him, he had just taken it off.

Exactly. To assassinate him. Because a woman was there. Yeah. I know. he had just taken it off. Exactly. Because a woman was there. Yeah. He was just like, please. Good day.

Good day to you. Good day. And then under the hat is a little gun, maybe. That would be nice. Hello. I do think that, you know, I guess, I mean, the hot take is people love celebrity

and that's a famous thing that happens, so they'll be obsessed with it forever. I mean, how many times was there, like, a huge prominent assassination at a public place that we can all go to? And, like, there's that great Erykah Badu music video where she's walking naked

through Dallas and she's taking off all her clothes window seat is the song and then she gets right to the point where jfk was assassinated and she is now completely nude and her back is facing the camera the whole time it's like all one shot but it's yeah it's beautiful that is art it's art it just it literally is art yeah the pictures that the families take in a like replica like there's there's a activity a family activity you can do where you drive around in a lincoln convertible and recreate the final moments of kennedy's life and there's like all these pictures of like families just like what cheesing and like looking back behind like where towards where the shots came from like smiling there's like one with like a five-year-old girl like sitting in the kennedy spot it's like what

i mean listen i don't think anyone should kill any members of their family but if you're gonna this would be one of the funnier ways to have it hilarious you assassinate grandma while she's riding the back of this jfk experience But if you're gonna, this would be one of the funnier ways to have it. That would be hilarious. You assassinate grandma while she's riding in the back of this JFK experience. It would be so weird. It'd be so hard to explain to people. Yeah. Oh, God.

Yeah. That does feel, what you were saying, though, very, like, Dallas, where I feel like it's much more like a Dallas to recreate, like,, like kind of this crazy cowboy shoot-em-up scenario whereas Massachusetts is just like, let's praise, think of him on a boat. No one's driving around in that car. Well, he wasn't assassinated in Massachusetts. I know, but I'm saying no one's

wanting to kind of even really at a museum have that experience go on. No, it does imply somewhat of a disrespect for the dead. Yeah, which we do not do in Massachusetts. I'm sorry. Raise a glass. Do you think in 50 years we'll be doing a 9-11 experiences

where you can get in a plane? That just does a flyby of Ground Zero. They have an X on the ground where he was when he was shot and tourists like run out to the x and like give a little thumbs up while like standing next to the x and holding up traffic presumably oh my god so that's cool wow and classy and a good way to classy stuff. Yeah. Dallas is a weird city. I will just say the food was not kind of as Texas

amazing as I'd hoped. Shots fired. I was really hoping for some big brisket or whatever the fuck they're supposed to do down there. It was fine, but... You weren't impressed by the BBQ? I was more impressed by a wateraburger, which admittedly is amazing and will fucking kill you so fast.

But it was very good. Is that one of those where it's like a Smashburger where it's like flat or is it like really large? It was kind of normal, but it was just like so... They must put butter on it or something. It's like, you know,

just a fast food burger. I ate one in a rental car like one second out of the airport, and it was so good. That's such a beautiful experience. Rental car. Yeah. Regional fast food. The grease all over the fucking steering wheel.

It's not my car. Not your car. Just for the record, I would also do that in my car. You're like, oh no, my car is a sanctuary. Your Elantra is just a greased up hog. That's right. That's what I call it.

Well, I wasn't planning a trip to Dallas, but this honestly sounds kind of insane. So I might now have to put it in the books. We need to do the JFK assassination experience. There's like a little cottage industry of like little conspiracy theorists. Like there are people who want to talk to you about the JFK assassination,

just like kind of roaming the streets around where it happened. The museum runs a gallery and event space on the seventh floor, but they like try and keep it classy. They're like not available for weddings or bar and bat mitzvah celebrations. And guests are asked not to bring food or drinks downstairs to the assassination exhibition. Sorry. There's like in the sixth floor of the book depository.

Yes. Where Oswald allegedly shot from, you know, every, everybody has a price. I bet for a few mil you could get a wedding in there. I mean, like all things, the key

is just don't tell them you're having a wedding. Just kind of do it. Ask for forgiveness, not permission. They didn't say retirement party. I'm having a retirement party where JFK was assassinated. I'm already wanting the merch. I rode the party where JFK was assassinated. I'm already wanting the merch. I rode the car that

JFK was assassinated in and all I got was this shirt. What banquet is it appropriate to be like, this is where they shot his ass from. I guess like a Republican convention of some sort. Any Republican thing is probably pretty good down there.

I'm surprised they don't have a thing where you can like, like target shoot down to the X from the book depository. Oh, yeah. Oh,

like see if you can get the shot. Yeah. That would be the most Texas thing possible. It's just like, here's your gun. Here's one bullet. I guess three bullets.

I don't remember how many bullets it was. And it's carnival. They're like, three shots for $5. Three shots for $5. And you win a big JFK like stuff.

It's like a normal... If you get the shot, you get the head blown off one. And if you don't, you just get it normal. You just get him holding his neck. Like a New World Order pin pin i don't know what they thought was happening i i need to be educated by these people years ago i read the book called

reclaiming history by vincent buliosi who also wrote helter skelter about the manson murders but it's oh yeah it's it's a doorstopper it's an extremely thick tone but he basically debunks every possible conspiracy theory about the jfk assassination and it did kind of convince me and i was kind of like okay well he spent you spent a long time researching this i guess it was it was just lee it would be so boring to write that book if it weren't true like imagine making a boring thing that was fake come on on. Yeah. Yeah. There's a book called Mortal Error, The Shot That Killed JFK by Bonner Manager

that I highly recommend. It's the one that I find, it's the conspiracy theory I find most convincing, and it's the one where the first shot came from Oswald, and then the second shot came from a Secret Service agent freaking out. Oh, I think that's the one in my early

research I believed in. Yeah, because you're just like, yeah, I don't know. Secret Service, FBI, CIA. To human error and incompetence. You know, so many world events are just incompetence. They basically stopped

yeah it was a big it was a big time whoopsie but that's why the shots like look different the first one just like passed through them cleanly because it came from oswald's gun and then the second one came from like one of these like cia you know uh secret service rather like m14s that have like the rounds that are spinning so fast they just like destroy whatever they hit and so that's we play fortnite we know we all know what you're talking about what happened yeah all of duty do you guys think you have what it takes to be a secret service agent no i i get so distracted by boredom like i just i would need to be able to be listening to podcasts which i don't think you're allowed to do well they have your pieces always so i'm sure they would be so

mad if they found out i was listening to your podcast while i was supposed to be protecting the president oh shit and i would like laugh and they'd be like what the fuck is going on it's going on i don't know biden said something hilarious and they're just like i don't know if i buy that babe yeah no because i think so much of it is waiting around yeah yes in in that the main job according to popular media is getting shot i guess i could do that yeah you you think you take a bullet like a champ you're in for that i i'm not like enthusiastic about it but i could do it something i've never understood about the whole like you know hypothetical of taking a bullet for the principal for the for the person you're guarding as i'm kind of like if you have time to jump in front of the bullet just push him out of the way do we not have

time for yeah to push him out of the way it Do we not have time for him to push him out of the way? It just seems like what's going on here? Yeah. It seems like they want you to take the bullet more than actually doing your job. It's a power trip. The president just wants to like, yeah, just to know that somebody's willing to do that for

him. Presidents are needy, you guys. That's one thing that we've all learned, right? Yeah. How about you guys? Do you think you'd be able to do it? Oh, God, no. I'd be bored. I'm not saying I'd be good at it, but honestly, I

think I could just walk around and wear a suit and then run slowly. They're always not keeping up and everything and like that part you would nail that like that kind of jog in a suit and then just stopping

yeah and then like talking to her peers I'm being like okay Duke is one of our codes where I'd be like Duke to the left that would be fun like it was fun when people are entering and exiting buildings that part is great but all the rest of it is just like yeah i don't know are you talking about like

peering outside the building like stick your head out peer both ways and then report clear yeah yeah i'd be doing a lot of who's this guy who's this guy left right sunglasses yeah clear duke is entering olive garden you know like that's fun i think not that i could do it well but i could do any job that requires carrying a gun as well as most people who do that job yeah because they mostly do it incredibly bad exactly i could definitely do that yeah yeah because i just wouldn't use the gun. So that's better than what they do. I totally agree. But yeah, all cops, they're bad at it.

And they're all lazy and weird. And I feel like I was at the arcade recently, and I got the top score on a shooting game in the hall. Oh, fuck yeah. On the machine. Like, on the machine. And I was like, oh, actually I've been insanely accurate like shooting to them like getting

prospective CIA members from arcades they tap you finally I could also you could wear those sunglasses they sell at party stores that have mirrors on the side love those oh not the wraparound

no of sunglasses on the side. Love those. So you can see behind you. Oh, not the wraparound. Yeah, yeah. No. Not the dot viper of sunglasses. Wraparound Oakleys? Mirrored Oakleys, though? So it's like a 360 behind your head view? You see it directly

behind you? Yeah. It's like an iMac screen that you're inside of. All right. Well, Stephen and Lily, it's been such a pleasure having you guys on the daily zeitgeist where can people find you follow you all that good stuff oh god it's been a pleasure to be on here

talking about um jfk my favorite subject um well you can follow our podcast and listen to it on apple podcasts or spotify celebrity book club with with Stephen and Lily. And we're on Instagram. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Stitcher. Luminary. We are fellow I Heart Sisters. With you guys. And when you Google it.

Just make sure you look for Celebrity Book Club with Stephen and Lily. That's crucial. There are other Celebrity Book Clubs? Yeah. Those are the bad ones I know it's crazy you said it not us and follow us on X

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is doing fine. That's right. Just one person with a subscription to every service. Amazing. Andrew, where can people find you? What's the work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, just Yo! Is This Racist? is my podcast, my normal podcast.

And I also recently, I guess this episode will be the final episode of my friend Cody Ziegler and I did a miniseries for Earwolf Presents called, they shouldn't have let us name it this, but it is called Do You Understand the Words That Are Coming Out of Our Mouths, a series where we watch the Rush Hour movies.

And they shouldn't have let us do that. And a piece of media, this is going to be a movie that a friend of mine made that is going to be out in, I, I believe release stateside. Oh, I want to say in December ish at Alamo draft houses, I believe called raging grace. It won South by Southwest recently. And it's really good. It's like a kind of a thriller about an undocumented Filipina lady in

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