The Daily Zeitgeist - Jiff Peanut Trender 10/17: Donald Trump, Kamala Harris, Peanut Butter Ranking
Episode Date: October 17, 2024In this edition of Jiff Peanut Trender, Jack and special guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan discuss Trump's sundowning tour, Kamala's Fox News appearance, The Takeout's peanut butter rankings and much more...!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It's peanut butter, but trending. I am Jack, and I'm thrilled to be joined by special guest co-host Polly V.
Good.
Now, you know, I'm not afraid to say it.
I heart radio.
You know what I mean?
That means so much to us.
You're so welcome.
Thank you.
But do you I heart podcast network?
No, unfortunately, I do not you I heart podcast network?
No, unfortunately, I do not I heart podcast network poly V. It's been so wonderful having you here It is the most wonderful time of the year
My phone is blowing up right now. I've never felt less alone in a bad way
now. I've never felt less alone in a bad way. So many people want to talk to me with spam texts about the election. A spam text not about the election. It feels like they were like,
you know what? They're going to be getting so much spam texts about the election that we can do spam
texts. Just being like, Hey, how's everything been with you lately? I got two in a row with heart emojis like that.
Just double tap.
Okay.
Slept for Kamala.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I think they are trying to fuck me into voting for Kamala Harris.
We're going to check back in with Trump's sundowning brainstorming tour.
Uh, he, are you saying his brain is a sundown town?
Is that what you're saying?
He would love every town to be a sundown town and he is sundowning, which is what happens
to people suffering from dementia where they get mean and incoherent towards the end of
the day.
He had a Univision town hall where just continued to ramble incoherently, whether it be his
answer to whether he still thinks climate change is a hoax.
And I'm just going to read it.
Just so I always feel that with the climate and I have been a great, I have been an environmentalist.
I built many things.
I owned a rail right next door.
And we did
that in a very environment. I got awards, environmental awards for the way I built it
for the water, the way I use the water, the sand, the mixing of the sand and the water.
What could he possibly be talking about right there? Anyways, 400 more words, exactly this
coherent into the water coming up one eighth of an inch
over 300 years the ocean is going to rise and you know nobody knows if that's true or
not but they're worried about the ocean just killing it you know so yes very cool okay
I think when he was talking about his use of water he's talking about how he does wash
his legs you know and he uses the sand to exfoliate. He's not like the other quite, you know what I mean?
Have you seen him stand on a slightly sloped surface?
I feel like that evens him out because usually he's already leaning. It's all perspective
and angle.
There's no way he's washing his legs.
Did you ever do those math problems in geometry where it's like a ladder is
leaning against a wall? Yeah, exactly. Like Trump standing and you have to find the angle of his own
incline. Yes. He needs like a thing going from his forehead to the ground to like make him.
Yeah. Just like a little bit more stable. He also, I think this was the first time, so this was like a town hall where people,
like there was one guy who was just like, I don't think you're good.
I registered Republican and like, I think you're, you did bad at your job, convinced
me otherwise.
And it was, it was just like, he just kind of read him for filth.
People enjoyed that.
He also called January 6th the day of love and just, you know, he said, went
down to the capital for me.
Like I slept in, you know, reframing it as Twitter with my friends, reframing
it as Woodstock is like went down to the Capitol.
I said peacefully and patriotically, nothing done wrong at all.
Nothing done wrong.
And action was taken strong action.
Ashley, Babbit was killed.
Nobody was killed.
It's great because at that moment where he goes, Ashley, Babbit was killed.
Nobody was killed.
They're like panning the audience and this woman gives this like, wait, and then
he says, there was no guns down there.
We didn't have guns.
The others had guns, but we didn't have guns.
And it's just wild that he's openly identifying with the January 6th rioters.
Like he's doing the we thing that like sports fans do.
And I always say, in theory, it's annoying when people are like talking about their
favorite sports team and say we, but I fucking do that.
Like, I can't help. I can't stop myself.
There's something so,
and I think that's, it's interesting because like, it's just so tempting to loop yourself in
because we're so starved for being part of something bigger than ourselves that we're just like,
yeah, we. I think it's very human. I do it with anything I'm a fan of. Like, I'm like, we,
you know, are Finland. We have healthcare, you know, we wrote a best
seller this week.
We, the Royal we, it's funny that hit the thing.
He can't stop from identifying himself with our, the January 6th rioters.
So that was that.
There was also a Trump town hall event for an exclusively a women audience on Tuesday.
It ended up airing Monday morning.
Oh my God, I'm worried for them.
And he just like kicked off speaking about migrants
and declared himself the father of IVF.
Is there a creepier way to discuss that?
I know, father.
What the fuck?
I know, it's so gross.
What are you invading sperm banks and replacing samples?
You freak. He's trying to end IVF by like making it so gross that nobody
know what he wants to do.
Yeah, it could be like he made the association in my mind that it's Trump's sperm.
So I don't love that.
Also said he wants to somehow ban all trans athletes from competing in all sports. So just like they're not like even in backyard sports.
He also just went on some verbal diarrhea nonsense about Elon Musk's rocket that
they literally had to just like cut him off.
It was aimed at making him look presidential and appealing to women.
And it probably worked for his audience because they just went wild for him,
because it was like only people who were part of like official Republican
women groups were allowed to attend.
So the heavily vetted audience for Fox.
So I'm guessing his like trans fans weren't allowed to attend.
I'm assuming that's what's fucked up.
Let Trump's trans fans weren't allowed to attend. I'm assuming. That's what's fucked up. Uh, let Trump's trans fans attend.
Yeah.
Being a, being a Maga supporter is technically a sport, you know, you got
your off, it's very, there's a huge offensive line that's going to come out.
That's right.
Some of the best O lines in terms of just lines that offend everybody. Yeah, coming out of his mouth.
But yeah, I don't know.
I had like a moment as you know, on yesterday's trending,
Miles was playing some of his favorite little sound bites
from the past couple of days where he was like, blurrgh.
He was trying to say big, but he was like, blurrgh,
World War II, blurr blurr and just seemed to be
drifting on. It really did feel a lot like the moment that we had with Joe Biden, where we like, this
person is like his brain is dissolving.
Yeah, it feels like if they were regular people and not just like the scum of the earth, like you would
feel bad for them being like forced to do this, you know?
Right.
Like he is a horrible person and subjecting us to this.
And like if he had a loving family that he cared about,
he would be at home with them instead of fucking parading around his bigotry in town halls.
Yeah, it just it gave me a moment where I was like daydreaming about like what happens
if Trump loses, like not if Kamala wins, because you know, who the fuck knows what's going
to happen if Kamala wins.
But her platform has not been the best in many respects.
But just in terms of like this movement of open fascism, because it seems like this would be the end for him.
Right. Like, that's what we thought with Biden, like with Biden winning.
Like, even if it's not him, I know that Florida, what's his face?
Tried to do Santa's, Santa's right.
Tried to recreate the charisma and just couldn't.
But if there is like a less likeable Ted Cruz, like that's the thing I was
thinking about is like in terms of the full blown fascists at this point, like
DeSantis turns out to be a less likeable Ted Cruz.
J.D. Vance won that V.P.
debate, according to like most mainstream media outlets and his likeability has somehow like
Gone way down since then and he was already the least likable
Yeah, so like I don't know I I do think that there's not thus far that we have seen an individual that can recreate the
Charisma or whatever you want to call it that Trump has but I also think it would be naive of us to think that it would like
That won't
appear somehow. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the ideology is still there. The
hatred is still there. They just haven't been able to capture it in a bottle like the way
that Trump did. Yeah. Yeah. I do think they would be I do think they would be fucked at
least for a little while because I think they would be still at least for a little while, because I think they would be still stuck
on some DeSantis, JD Vance stuff,
and Nikki Haley might end up having a moment.
Oh yeah.
But I guess the thing is,
I hadn't really thought about what a Republican party
after Trump looks like since the last couple years
when it just became increasingly clear
he was going to either
win or come within an inch of just like, you know, taking the country into like full blown
fascism and just seeing his brain kind of you can't go half bash.
Yeah, we've gone many varieties of fashion. It turns out that fascism comes in a number of wonderful colors.
But I just got a good mouth feel.
I can't emphasize enough how fucked we are if he wins.
But if he loses, I think they're pretty fucked, too, which is just Republicans.
Yeah, the Republicans and like the mega movement,
because he really seems out of his like he's always seemed out of his mind,
but he seems like to be falling apart.
It's here. Yeah.
I mean, there's also been those moments in the past where he seemed like he
was deteriorating and it was just because he's been awake
for three weeks in a row on Adderall. And then he needs to like sleep again and then he gets a second one.
So again, maybe this is all just me being hopeful.
I also wonder like who were the big playmakers that are coming up because Mitch McConnell's
like hands are falling off slowly and like lazy Graham.
I don't know what's happening with him.
So like in terms of like party turn turnover,
I don't know who the clear leaders are for like the next generation of like the GOP.
Yeah. And who would be as effectively insidious as like Mitch McConnell.
Yeah. But I feel like you can always replace Mitch McConnell
with a different like insidious like, you know, just because like there was
no charisma there to begin with.
He was no, but he was working behind the scenes in like a really effective way.
Yeah.
And like, I don't know, like, who would be able to do that, because right now, it seems
like because Trump has been so forward facing, it does feel like a lot of people are attempting to usurp that position
and be in front of the camera and try to become celebrities rather than like work underneath
to kind of like obviously everybody knows Mitch McConnell, but he's not out there as
much as like Ted Cruz is just saying wild shit than doing the same after, you know?
Right.
Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break.
We'll come back.
Check in with the Kamala campaign and peanut butter.
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So Kamala Harris went on Fox News.
It was not a white
to I mean, I think if her point was to, you know, convey I can remain composed while being completely sandbagged and attacked in a hugely stacked interview, I think she succeeded at that.
Maybe she was recruiting someone for her cabinet position.
Exactly.
I like their spunk.
Continuing to double down.
I don't disagree with the Fox News decision.
I think like, I don't know.
It seems it played well with me trying to think like a Republican,
but I've never been able to do that at all.
I don't know.
Who the fuck knows?
I don't know what's useful on this media tour, but I'm just like mad at her.
Yeah, me too. I am mad at her, too.
There's there was a Kamala HQ tweet where they showed like Trump campaign
has spent millions on anti trans ads next to a New York Times headline under Trump.
U.S. prisons offered gender affirming care.
And we're like, oh, like trying to point out that they transphobia.
Yeah, like doing fucking transphobia is just very frustrating.
I also read an article where there's like this super pack that is working for them
is basically using social media to focus group,
like a thousand different possible messages.
And then the ones that actually resonate with people,
they then put those messages into TV ads and then the ones that actually resonate with people, they then put those
messages into TV ads and then do like 20 different TV ads and then focus group those until they
find the TV ad.
Right.
Dang.
Hot girl.
Exactly.
Just random word generating.
This is totally different, but I just saw a clip of the guy who wrote SOS by Rihanna and how like the second
verse or the first verse or something was entirely number one pop hits from the 80s.
And he went through song titles.
Yeah, song titles.
And I'm like, is that what the Kamala team is doing?
Just stringing together whatever is trending.
But again, so Clintonian.
Like the whole way we've already talked about how her positioning and her decision to like
just keep moving further to the right to try and capture a bigger and bigger part of the
tent is like very like the triangulation that Clinton, Bill Clinton made famous did not work out so well more
recently.
And that didn't backfire at all with the crime bill or anything.
Yeah.
And also we people are now smarter and are like, that is fucking a terrible presidency
in many ways.
But also just weather ballooning and responding to popular opinion is just such a, yeah, just like letting popular
opinion control your campaign. I understand the logic and that seems to be any anyone who like
objects to this is just like, yeah, well, what's she going to do? Try and win you over. You're
already going to vote for her. And it's like, yeah, but it also just like makes it look like they don't have any beliefs, which is
bad if you're running to be a leader.
It's also exactly what Trump's doing.
He like reads the room and responds in that way.
Like he literally will say things, will gauge whether it gets like a laugh or a reaction
and then continues down that road.
That's like every, every behavior of his has been rewarded in some way, which is
why he is the way he is.
Yeah.
So like, how are you different from the Republicans then?
Right. But yeah, I don't know. Just generally following this election, I feel like I'm watching
a weather report for like one day in three weeks and just hoping it doesn't rain in Seattle
or say, you know, it's just like, I don't fucking know. Like it. And nobody knows.
Like the New York Times had this headline.
How accurate or off target could the polls be this year?
Maybe not. Who knows?
The answer is literally very off target.
And we don't know in which direction.
More at 11.
That's like when there's like a breaking news story
and the reporter just has to keep talking
to fill time.
Yeah, exactly.
The polls, I mean, I think everyone else who is worried about this election has the same
thought.
Like the polls really seem to underestimate Trump every fucking time.
They did a big one in 2016 and we were all surprised the day after the election if you
were paying attention to the polls. 2020, in many ways, they were more off.
They had Wisconsin off by 10 points.
Like they were like, that's Biden's going to run away with this.
He barely won it.
But because Biden won, like we don't remember it as being as far off.
Do you think the polls were so off because they were manned by teen volunteers?
Right.
Do you think we will talk about that on tomorrow's episode?
Yeah, the poll.
Those are the actual polls that will be manned by teen volunteers.
But yeah, I mean, polling is a mess.
Like I've seen people who are saying that the polls now, like after 2020,
they were like, OK, guys, we need to change
everything. And they started shifting things like so far towards the Republicans that they were then
predicting a red wave for the midterms. And like, that's why they were off at that time.
And they think they might be off again this time. That made Biden cocky. Like he literally was like,
they said there was going to be a red wave. Yeah, there was it like every time he's asked about, he fell asleep in the middle of the
sentence.
So nobody seems to really know.
I feel very uncomfortable with any like tiny narrow polling lead over Trump who has always
historically outperformed his polls.
Like really the only possibility of Harris winning
at this point seems to be assuming that they've built
in a massive polling error, like pushing towards
Republicans because otherwise it will just be Trump
overperforming again and winning because this is
fucking life.
This is worse than the polls were for the Democrats heading into any of his
previous elections. So we'll see, you know, but the one thing,
given everything that's happened, that he's doing the best he's ever done.
Yeah. Like after being indicted, after talking the way he talks,
like it's just insane. I'm not surprised, but it's insane.
Not good. Polly would be how I would describe it.
But I think what's important is that one thing
Americans have gotten right is their peanut butter.
And that's called a transition.
And that is what we do here on this podcast.
We transition.
We transition.
And we're pro-trans.
And we are pro-transitioning.
So peanut butter turns out to be one of those things
that we have, I guess, mostly right,
or like consumers are getting right.
So there's a review in the food blog, The Takeout,
which is, we used to talk about The Takeout a lot,
but it's basically like food snobs reviewing fast food
and grocery store items and stuff like that.
And they did a ranking of widely available store bought peanut butter.
And the two best are Jif and Skippy, according to their blind taste testing,
which are the two best selling.
Skippy is number two in sales and number one according to their taste test.
Jif number one in sales, number two in taste.
But the fact that we got the top two right, I was like, that's... one according to their taste test, Jeff number one in sales, number two in taste.
But the fact that we got the top two right, I was like, that's.
Is it because they're filled completely with like sugar and it is they're bad for it.
These are all, these are all bad for us.
This is, this is a food review site.
I should say that like, you know, seriously considers the mouth feel of like Taco Bell
products and okay, that is legitimate. like, you know, seriously considers the mouth feel of like Taco Bell products.
And okay, that is legitimate.
Yeah.
So there's, there's nothing wrong with that.
If you're going to kill yourself with food, might as well be thoughtful about
it as you're going down, but I don't know.
It just, it's an interesting category of things, whether they be just like foods
or products that are, I guess you would call
them like accurately rated.
Like we kind of have it right.
Like I was thinking of consumer purchases.
Yeah, the consumer purchases like Heinz and hunts like Heinz being number one and hunts
being a distant second kind of matches up with my experience of those products and other
catch ups.
Like I've never had a catch up. That's as good as Heinz.
I don't know why this this now sounds like a Heinz ad sponsor.
I send us the ketchup.
Please candy.
I feel like despite all those like maps where they're like California's
favorite candy is actually nilla wafers.
You know, when you look at overall sales, Reese's peanut butter cups are still the number
one selling thing.
And I think I would have to rank them near the top for myself.
They are delicious.
But I will say, like, as I've gotten older, I don't know what happened.
I used to eat like litter and I still do sometimes like candy, ice cream, terrible
things for breakfast, like, but for some reason my palate has gotten hoity toity.
And I'm like, there's a weird aftertaste to Hershey's chocolate.
And I'm having a hard time.
Yeah.
I'm like, there's something like I'm feeling something in it.
I'm like, I don't like it.
There's like a spiciness that I feel like not even spiciness, but like a kind of, it's like it hurts the back of your
throat a little bit because it has so much sugar in it has always been how I've interpreted
that.
I was curious if like colas could kind of fit into this because I do feel like Coke, despite
the fact that there are like other types of sodas I've enjoyed. It's never like the cola kind.
Like I've never had a cola that I was like,
that's better than Coke, you know?
But also that depends on where you are.
Cause they have that like Coca-Cola tasting thing
with Cokes from all different countries.
And there are some that are horrific.
Really?
And there's, oh yeah.
There was like, I did it when I was a kid.
So I don't know if it's changed,
but like there were some that was,
I was like, this is awful.
Yeah.
Oh wow.
Or like the M&M thing and the Coke museum and like, I think it was in Vegas or whatever.
Yeah.
You could go like taste test all the different Cokes and they had like a fountain and it
was fun.
But yeah, there are some Cokes that are really bad.
So I'm like, I don't know if it's, but I've always been a fan and this might just be the
Indian in me.
I think there was some situation where with Pakistan and India when when stuff was going
down there, coke wasn't like allowed in India or something like that at some point. I don't know,
but they came up with their own coke called thumbs up. And like, I actually prefer that to Coke.
Oh, really? Yeah, but it might just be my nostalgia from India.
Yeah, I don't know.
Just like cultural conditioning.
I only think peanut butter like Jiffin, Skippy peanut butter or Jiffin.
Yeah, Jiffin, Skippy peanut butter are good because that is the peanut butter I
was raised on and like everybody else is like this tastes like rat shit.
Do you know what though is that we used to take food to certain foods to our friend,
our family in India and the foods that they or the fun things that they couldn't get.
We always take them Girl Scout cookies.
Like my mom always buys up a ton and then we take them to India and then they freeze
them and like eat them slowly over the year so that they can like ration them out.
Cookies are a great product.
And then also Big Red, although Big Red did change the recipe at some point and it's not the same
as it was when I was a kid. And then also peanut butter, we used to take peanut butter because they
didn't have good smooth peanut butter and we would take Jif.
Jif, there it is.
So that is transcending countries.
Pala V. Gannalan, truly a pleasure having you here with us.
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