The Daily Zeitgeist - Jimmer FreTrend 7/25: Trump, Hannibal Lecter, JD Vance, Joe Biden Dead?, Dave Matthews

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

In this edition of Jimmer FreTrend , Jack and Miles discuss why Trump keeps bringing up Hannibal Lecter, JD Vance: The Sofa King, the "Joe Biden is dead" conspiracy theory, people finding a new respect for Dave Matthews and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of jimmer for trend uh that's a reference to jimmer for debt a deep cut basketball player reference uh but not so deep not so deep as I thought because Johnny Davis

aka SST Spice short show title Spice came through with the Olympic basketball aka's and put Jimmer Fredette on there Jimmer for trend and I was like what is he talking about and it turns out Jimmer for trend. And I was like, what is he talking about?

And it turns out Jimmer for debt, a great shooter out of BYU overhyped NBA draft pick who never quite panned out in the league is on the three on three men's basketball team. And these are good for you. First of all, like I think I had read before the last Olympics that three-on-three basketball was going to happen.

I don't think I watched it. I think the U.S. did very badly. It just didn't become a thing. I didn't even know it was a thing until just now. In the 2020 Olympics, gold went to Latvia, bronze, Serbia,ussia won the silver

and the u.s like didn't even they have like one through eight and then the u.s just has like a little dot next to their name i don't even know what they rage quit they rage but the olympics oh they they didn't even qualify wow um anyways come on jimmer jimmer back at it again yeah um i think it's half court so you know our five on five men's team our like you know actual basketball team is very old they're like the space cowboys of the dream teams you know their last job one last job they pulled me back in and this team is even older our three on three team the youngest person is 30 like they don't even have young people to counterbalance the olds hey 30s young man to me what i'd give to me yes to in basketball years to not typically your peak physical condition condition that's around 26 um all right miles you're miles i'm jack yes and that's just how we

talk uh and uh we're going to talk about some of the things that are trending obviously we're going to get back to uh some couch fucking because that is going off on the internet today oh my god despite the fact that it was debunked not just by us doesn't matter doesn't matter in fact it seems to have uh picked up momentum because it was debunked um but first this is a debunking that i think is actually or like a an explainer that i think might actually be true um there's a tiktok video where someone is trying to explain why Trump keeps bringing up Hannibal Lecter in the context of the border. And I don't find this like that mind blowing as people seem to,

but it does feel like it's a, it probably makes sense knowing what we know about Trump's mind, that this is at least how it initially arose. So recently, like since the last time we brought it up he once again brought up uh hannibal lector yeah at a rally once again referring to him he had the late great hannibal lector um did you see when he didn't like he was confusing people and like forgot the word abortion was like and what's the word say it it along with me. Yes, abortion. I was like, whoa, okay.

So it really seems to have become a thing. We're going to get to it again elsewhere. But he seems to be very insecure about the idea that he is having cognitive decline. Because even in this Hannibal Lecter thing, he was like, all right, I'll just read what he said. They're coming from everywhere. They're coming from all over the world,

from prisons and jails and mental institutions and insane asylums. You know, they go crazy when I say the late great Hannibal Lecter, okay? They say, why would he mention Hannibal Lecter? He must be cognitively in trouble no no no these are real stories hannibal lector from silence of the lambs these are real stories hannibal lector from silence of the these are real stories he's a lovely man he'd love to have

you for dinner yes that that is a line from the movie um that you saw um i so first they go crazy when you say the late great hannibal lecter because uh it doesn't nobody's quite sure why you're bringing him up uh he's not dead he's not a real person so he can't be dead in real life and he's not a dead person inside the fictional thing and the actor who plays him is not dead so it doesn't make any sense uh but so it's just weird that he he seems very fixated on people saying he's cognitively in decline um but so the theory from the tiktoker is that the obsession stems from the fact that trump is so stupid, he doesn't realize that the word asylum has more than one meaning. So it's always insane asylum. Insane asylum.

Which I don't know if it's that he doesn't know the difference or that he's so like addled and he's just like pinging between words and it's just like word association. pinging between words and it's just like word association but it does it is actually it is at least a theory as to where where this came from and why he's so obsessed and also because it probably as someone who edited a you know popular uh like comedy website like the reference to a pop culture thing that people remember and like gives you a little bit of a like hit like people like that and so it's like a cheap thrill and so he probably is just like when he mentions it people are like yeah okay i'm back like after 45 minutes of him just rambling on about like he's like pizza, like how vanity fair wasn't nice to him in the eighties or whatever. You know,

at least Hannibal Lecter is somebody is a pop culture figure. People are like, okay, I'm back. And so that's probably at least part of it. But he also like, it doesn't explain why he thinks Hannibal Lecter is dead. And it's because he's stupid.

It's because he's stupid as hell. And he's, he's got is dead and a real person. It's because he's stupid. It's because he's stupid as hell. And he's got brain stew up there. Yeah, it's brain stew. Rhetorically, it makes no sense to evoke a fake thing. But I get what you're trying to say. That the danger of asylum seekers is such that it's at the level of Hannibal. It's like, whatever, dude. No.

Just say you hate people immigrating to the country and if the democratic party was smart though just based on like all all the shit that he's been putting out and like all the just like casual references to how he's mentally doing okay and cognitively all there which is the which is the thing that people who are cognitively all there are always talking about. Um, he, they should just go hard on, be like our cognitively declined candidate stepped down. It's time for you to do the same. Like you,

you, and just cut together all like they can go so hard on this now. And it's clearly something that he recognizes as a weakness. Like, yeah. And there's no shortage of him being like you know like just his brain melting before he can finish a word um so it does feel like it's time to really adapt to the fact that joe biden is no longer the candidate yeah we'll see yeah i wish he could be like how do you make me younger

we've got to figure this out like uh sir that's not he's gonna be on so much adderall yeah yeah anyways christopher ray uh this is the other big thing this is early days after the attempted assassination um it seemed like a lot of people were putting a lot of emphasis on like he wasn't even shot and it was like yeah right we don't know that and then it seemed like for a while like there was that video that purported to show the track that the bullet had taken as it like went past his head where he like turned his head at the last second and that's the only reason he's alive and i was like that seems like just as likely as any explanation so yeah but how many of the like how much of that analysis was actually done by like forensic like ballistic people you know what i mean that's where i assumed I assumed that that had some basis.

And it turns out it doesn't seem like it had much basis. I don't even know if they've done an investigation based on how Christopher Wray was talking in that hearing. So the FBI is in charge of this investigation and he came out and specifically said, there's some question about... This is a direct quote. There's some question about whether or not it's a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear as i sit here right now i don't know whether that bullet in addition to causing the grazing could have also landed somewhere else like so they don't

if that was a bullet like they don't know where that bullet is then right which seems difficult to explain so yeah this idea has seemed to fade to the background while people come up with like a you know hypothetical hyper skilled water tower sniper whose job was to graze his ear but and i don't know that it matters that much other than i do think it kind of undercuts his like claim that he was heroic and you know the entire republican apparatus spent the last month or the last few weeks just like making the claim that he was protected by god by like moving his head at the very last second so if it if it was like some it we know it wasn't the teleprompter splintering because like there are pictures of the teleprompters intact after it happened but like if it was like some piece of wood or something else

uh splintering that like hit his ear then and then he intentionally like had people cover it up then that does feel like it's in keeping with what we know of him um and yeah yeah i think it's probably not a bullet based on how it required no stitches it didn't even really need a band-aid after the fact um and also i mean like at this point it doesn't really doesn't help him either way or hurt him like whether it's shrapnel or a bullet like they they milked as much as they could out of this it's like so weird to be like they milked as much as they could out of the shooting okay but i feel like it it's it makes no difference i guess like they he was in he was injured and they have that so whether it's shrapnel bullet whatever fine uh but the thing

that's i think strange is that the doctors that did offer care like they've asked them not to speak to anybody about what care was given so it's like what the fuck this is the other thing because it was so minor right this is the other thing that's somewhat suspicious after christopher ray said that trump went on truth social and ranted about christopher ray but he ranted not about that which would be the thing that would piss him off the most like that he's claiming that you know the his version of events on this like major moment was not accurate he instead ranted about like christopher ray not knowing that biden was like diminished and then he posted a video of a doctor um who it says like medically what happened to trump like

and it seems like you're going to see a video where a doctor is like, well, you can tell from the way the blood is coming out. But instead, the video is just him being like this doctor basically saying that Trump is super brave. The way most people would react to being in a combat situation is to be scared and rattled. But he seemed so brave. My medical opinion is he is so brave terminal bravery yeah wow stage three i'm not getting political here it is genuinely an impressive feat uh and then the guy also specifically says and not the way somebody would react who is in cognitive decline, the doctor says. So again, he's... Yeah, he's got a bunch of stooges out there just saying whatever to help Bill paint this picture he needs.

Yeah. He's brave and so cognitive incline. Cognitive incline. He's actually on a cognitive incline that is just ramping up into the sky. Yeah. cognitive incline that is just ramping up into the sky um yeah but choosing not to comment on someone basically casting doubt on where the you know your grays came from um and then reacting to even that by being like guys sharp as a tack and you're like wait that's not what we were even talking about what the fuck is happening sorry what was your question like i just feel like the democrats should really go hard at the

cognitive thing and then this thing we should be working on in the background well they are i mean like already i think yeah like the harris campaign they're calling him like he's a 78 year old criminal so they're already being like yeah guess who's old now? All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and check back in with JD Vance. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.

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i'm a little surprised we were very clear in our debunking of the couch rumor and then it matter i wake up this morning miles i go over flip on the global internet and it is just one non-stop stream of jd vance fucking a couch means if you search jd vance couch like under the news tab on google it's taken over the daily beast rolling stone so what's with this rumor that jd vance had sex with a couch salon.com ap yanks fact check on raunchy but false claims that jd vance had an encounter with a sofa the verge like everyone is talking about this this is what i love about this story is that it's not it's so easily debunked and most people like uh probably not but people he's so unlikable they're like yeah this guy fucks coaches he just has the couch fucking gist energy of any public figure of all time that the they just like can't people can't forget it the like the person who tweeted that that's like kgb level

like like laser guided disruptive propaganda like it's fake and somehow it sucked up all the fucking oxygen not all of it but a lot around quite a bit of the oxygen has been sucked yeah truly but yeah it's just also funny because like his stock is like really going down there's's also stories about like people in the Republican Party talking about buyer's remorse, about him being the VP pick. Also, there's like this story that I think actually has some potential to maybe damage the campaign, at least like in terms of like rhetorically what they're saying is Vance's love of the fucking Heritage Foundation. is vance's love of the fucking heritage foundation like okay the fucking think tank that's the architect of project 2025 and who donald trump in his first administration took on about 60 percent of their suggestions for things he should do in office yeah um so for weeks now trump has done everything he can to distance himself from project 2025 he says he knows nothing about it when he says like he's like oh i kind of know about it but

it's it's from the quote severe right i don't know the severe right so they're very severe severe and they're pretty right about what they're saying um the problem though is that uh like kevin roberts the dude who is out there calling himself the head of project 2025, has a book coming out. And guess who wrote the gushy-ass fucking foreword to that book? J.D. Sofa King Horny Vance is out here. He said, quote, and this is from the foreword, Never before has a figure with Robert's depth and stature within the American right tried to articulate a genuinely new future for conservatism. We are now all realizing that it's time

to circle the wagons and load the muskets. You hear that? Hey, hearken back to some colonizer times. In the fights that lay ahead, these ideas are an essential weapon. Those are not the most essential weapons. Muskets are shitty weapons, by the way.

You guys are supposed to be gun nerds. We need muskets and a book and diet mountain dew and we're gonna win we're gonna win andy basheer i think has already said making mountain dew cracks at him yeah andy basheer came uh and also made a uh he's not like us they're not like us reference yeah wait where is he said i think this is towards the tail end. He talks about... I set the record straight, so I do owe an apology to Diet Mountain Dew. Look at his Jack McBrayer-ass

voice. AL81 is definitely the soft drink of Kentucky, but I don't believe that government should be making your decisions. So if you enjoy Diet Mountain Dew, UBU, we want to support you mustered on that beat ho to diet mountain dew uh very sorry didn't mean to say negative things uh

about you oh pepsico came for his from here just like everybody else that's speaking out thank you all very much i am from here he's not like he's not like us oh yeah l8 that's a big one that and it i thought i assumed it was like oh it's a local kentucky thing left kentucky hadn't thought about it again until this story just now yeah it just disappeared it's what does it taste like i'm pretty sure it's like ginger ale it's like ginger ale with a little bit of caffeine i think in it yeah yeah it's flavor profile ginger ale citrusy okay yeah yeah it's not about ale 81 all right i would but kentucky was when i was most addicted to most acutely addicted to mountain dew yeah yeah but not diet mountain dew you probably have more of

a claim to appalachia than fucking jd vance does yeah i didn't even know diet mountain do existed when i lived there like how long did you live in kentucky three years how long did you live in west virginia five years and then southern ohio five more years so i i got 13 years bro i think yeah bro like bro i ain't drinking diet do either. You know what I'm saying? What it do, y'all? It's me, Jack. It's me, Jack, man, weighing in for another what it do episode. This is your version of

a fireside chat. Bitch, and away we go. The other big conspiracy theory happening right now online. So it really like, I think we mentioned this earlier in the week, but this,

it just, it feels like the way the world is working right now is the internet is the writer's room for reality. And they're just workshopping shit and they're trying to cast you. And if you have the couch fucking fuckingest energy of any public figure and somebody makes up that lie about you the global writers room of the internet is going to run with that because it's just good casting it's too good yeah you are the biggest scale to use your phrase to ever appear on television not like outside of uh the role of hosting tales from the crypt like they're

going to cast you as a dead guy um and that is what they've done with joe biden that's the other big conspiracy theory uh just racing up the charts uh another number of theories trending on twitter earlier in the week suggesting he had actually died. Then he went and delivered his Oval Office address on Wednesday and everyone was like, he's too orange. Did you look at the background? The background looked weird. So it

didn't take long for a lot of online chatter to start about how he's probably dead. There's also his first appearance in any respect respect his first proof of life following his covid diagnosis and to be clear like the today's paper yeah which is what i think a fox news anchor as they were like we need proof of life yeah they're like it was proof of life so stupid but i'm like play out their fantasies for a second okay he's dead and it's ai now what

what do you want to do now what does this mean yeah but i mean what does that even mean even if that were like i get that it's just easy just to be like oh we're casting aspersions like the jd vance thing it goes nowhere because you just want to be mean to the guy who's a shitty racist right you know what i mean yeah whereas like this one you're like dude our country's all about this guy this guy's dead and he's ai okay so then what if he's dead what should we do yeah what does that mean but it's just like government boogaloo boys get them out there um yeah but there was okay there's also a phone call did you see this like kamala harris was addressing a crowd and got Joe Biden on the phone. And he was like,

she was like, and Joe's on the phone. Uh, and he was like, I love you kid. It did sound a little bit like they had a Joe Biden, like string pull toy. Um,

yeah, yeah, right. He's like, that's malarkey. Oh shit. The wrong one. Uh,

one more. I love you kid. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but anyways, at one point point kamala seems to say like and i know you're still on the on the call um and people are like she was about to say recording she's about to say recording he's dead um and so i don't know it's a dumb world and

it's a dumb world you're right you caught them now what does that mean who's going to jail does someone go to jail does that mean trump is now president yeah because biden was dead he would have dead the whole time god just fucking like they don't even like think out their like stupid ass conspiracy like usually you can it's like and if that's true then that means this is true yeah and we've got them but it's like he's old him die yeah yeah exactly our country is very dumb and this is what it looks like as it yeah i love how again it just the the rnc basically almost like beat for beat copied idiocracy like with terry cruz being the wrestler giving like that speech and he's like

you know what this guy's gonna do he's gonna solve all of our problems yeah just like screaming and shit you're like this is exactly yep look at my muscles now yeah i mean hulk hogan's speech seemed to have the most appropriate energy of anybody for that for the republican national convention like he was he was matching the energy in the room well yeah, yeah, and what? They had domestic abuser Dana White kick it off. It was all quite appropriate for them. Finally, I just

want to give a shout out to Dave Matthews. A lot of apologies people are making right now. I think we all owe Dave Matthews an apology. Someone I previously thought corny as fuck. And now I'm like, it's time to reevaluate the entire Dave Matthews song catalog. So much to say is a protest song.

Yeah, he was at the Netanyahu protests and was like, I don't want my tax money to fund genocide. money to fund genocide and uh yeah he's like in the same family as the weekend now who's just like you know don't donated so much money to gaza um uh yeah i'm like these are good artists and everybody who says otherwise needs to fuck up i know the weekend why those early tapes oh the early tapes i was all about the weekend i will clutch them as the world burns down to give me a little bit of blood uh going through my veins the idol didn't happen and move along never saw it don't care to and yep i will i only i love the like 10 or what maybe eight dave matthews songs that i know and like. When I was wearing a puka shell necklace at a Dave Matthews concert, drunk off cargo shorts,

yeah, baggy cargo shorts, drunk off of natural light that I drank in the parking lot. It was because I had a sense that he had like good morals. I could like tell, you know know you could tell by the lyrics that like yeah um yeah but any stand-up guy could you imagine suddenly they're like no guys you have to look into dave matthews past he murdered a bunch of people like oh fuck he i mean he's this is south african but he uh you know he's like the you know the south af Africa that has been like, we know apartheid.

This is an apartheid state. You know Dave Matthews' real name. It's David Matthew Rhodes, as in Rhodesia. That is where he comes from. Right. God damn it. I can never have anything. Yeah. off god damn it i can never have anything yeah anyway uh those are some of the things that are

trending on this july 25th we are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get the vaccine get your flu shots don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Later. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.

Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Mori Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way

we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.