The Daily Zeitgeist - J.Lo’s Lemonade Moment? The “RACISM DOESN’T EXIST” Hoax 01.19.24

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

In episode 1610, Miles and guest co-host Alex Schmidt are joined by host of Black People Love Paramore, Sequoia Holmes, to discuss… Trump’s Blotchy Hand Causes “Syphilis” To Trend, What The F*...ck Is Going On In This Jennifer Lopez Movie? Conservative is so smart he proves that white people actually CAN NOT SEE RACE, “Blue Monday” – The Capitalist Hoax That Continues To Persist and more! Trump’s Blotchy Hand Causes “Syphilis” To Trend Donald Trump's hand sores 'are syphilis', says ex-presidential adviser in wild claim We asked a dermatologist about the mystery marks on Trump's hand. Here's what he said. Trump Wants to "De-bank" your life (clip) What The F*ck Is Going On In This Jennifer Lopez Movie? This Is Me...Now: A Love Story - Official Trailer | Prime Video Conservative is so smart he proves that white people actually CAN NOT SEE RACE Blue Monday 2024: When is Blue Monday and how to beat it? IT’S OFFICIALLY THE MOST DEPRESSING DAY OF THE YEAR: AN EXPERT OFFERS SOME TIPS TO LIFT THE GLOOM ON ‘BLUE MONDAY’ Blue Monday is coming up: Are you prepared for the most depressing day of the year? Blue Monday: a depressing day of pseudoscience and humiliation Blue Monday is nonsense The ‘Blue Monday’ depression peak isn’t real, but seasonal blues are. Here’s what to do Blue Monday is (still) just a PR gimmick, actual science shows Man who coined the term 'Blue Monday' apologises for making January more depressing Online sales on Blue Monday rise 18% as shoppers turn to shopping to cheer themselves up “Blue Monday” is churnalism, beware any journalist who puffs it LISTEN: Magpie by Lava La RueSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:39 Guys, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast, not the production seat. Look, it's been a minute since I was the main host. You know what I mean? So forgive me, y'all. I'm stepping on my words. I'm stumbling and I'm just getting over jet lag. But this is the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Friday, January 19th, 2024. And you're probably asking yourself, well, what is January 19th? But what's wild is there's only one fucking holiday today or national day today. It's National Popcorn Day. So get it popping however you like to.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Microwave otherwise. Yeah. Or in a hair straightener. I just love popcorn. I'm very excited. Oh, really? It's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Well, let's interrogate that in a little bit. Well, first of all, let me introduce myself. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Now here I go again. I dream I'm in Japan. I keep my AirPods on in church. It's THC that's always suppressing all my dreams. And are there any dreams I'd like to see Dreams of Tokyo Okay, let me get to the fucking chorus real quick. Take me on a journey, DJ Khaled
Starting point is 00:02:58 Playing with a dragon when I'm playing said dreaming it will come and it will go when I'm off the weed my dreams will flow they'll flow yeah yeah yeah
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Starting point is 00:03:45 Because getting my dreams back has been such a weird... I don't know. It's been amazing. But enough about me. Let me introduce today's guest co-host. Someone who you've already heard exclaimed they are a lover of popped corn. Not only that, they're a fantastic comedy writer, fantastic podcast host. They won fucking jeopardy okay they have their own pocket podcast which i've been on i got the pleasure of being on called secretly
Starting point is 00:04:10 incredibly fascinating it is the one and only alex smith buddy thank you and i i didn't prepare it okay let's just let's just say i was on a skateboard drinking a lot of ocean spray while you were doing your wonderful song i think that was where i should have been and that's where i was in my heart. I mean, again, well, can I just clarify,
Starting point is 00:04:27 you love popcorn when you, like you audibly went for the popcorn. What go on? What is it? Is it the movie? Is it the, is it the microwave? Is it the popcornopolis?
Starting point is 00:04:38 What are we talking here? I think it's like only not my favorite food because it's kind of just air, but otherwise it's pretty much. And I like to make it on the stovetop because then you it's kind of just air. But otherwise, it's pretty much. And I like to make it on the stovetop because then you can flavor it however you want. You know, you can do the balance your way. It's not up to the microwave bag. I'm sorry. When you do it on a stovetop, would you put like in a skillet or some shit?
Starting point is 00:04:55 I have a custom, not appliance, but it's like an aluminum pot with a gizmo on it. It's called a whirly pop. And so you put all the kernels in it. And then there's a rotating tool that moves the kernels so that they like keep moving around and pop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fantastic. And then how do you see, like, what's your seat? Like you put the seasonings in with the kernels? Uh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can add them later, but there's an amazing specific salt for popcorn called flavor call. It's in like an orange carton. I am let me tell you i do not talk
Starting point is 00:05:26 about this a lot and i am learning how much i'm into it as i say it i know it's a popcorn culture this you even have producer victor in the chat he's like what the fuck you are blowing my mind right now i'm so jealous right now hearing of this okay now i'm interested because i i would love to like turn up popcorn that's like spicy. You know what I mean? I love spicy shit. Yeah. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I'm just thinking of it right now. Like a bunch of cayenne pepper or like other kinds of spices. Anyway, that's for another show called Snacks We Never Thought About, which is coming to iHeart actually next fall. So stay tuned for that. But before we do that, Alex, let's introduce our guest. Someone who also has a very incredible podcast which is also uh y'all i mean like we're saying label mates on max fun so exciting new thing yeah we've had
Starting point is 00:06:12 her on before everybody loves having her we love having her she is the host and creator of the black people love paramore pod please welcome to the microphone sequoia homesmes hello hello i'm so excited to be back thanks for having me thank you for coming back thank you for coming back all right where are you at on the popcorn conversation i saw you you were definitely you had movement too so i was like i was talking with the popcorn i love popcorn i love popcorn so much alex have you tried trader joe's has a seasonal popcorn that's stuffing flavored it's the best thing i've ever had in my life. It's wild. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It's so good. It's only there in the month of November, though. And it sells out pretty quick. If they have it next year, I'm buying so many bags. It's fire. I'm fucking dead inside from hearing that. Are you? It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I love stuffing is like one of my is really for me, one of my favorite fucking things. I love everything. I love everything. Thanks, Stephen. Don't get get me wrong but i fucking love stuffing same i think it's the time it's the every the celery the onion they have popcorn that tastes like that it tastes just like it too like i was shocked and when i went back to trader joe's trying to get it again they didn't have it but the lady pointed me to the seasoning that they have that they use for the popcorn and the seasoning is called everything but the leftovers and i think they have it but the lady pointed me to the seasoning that they have that they use for the popcorn and the seasoning is called everything but the leftovers and i think they have that year-round not positive and it's fire so you've had that one i i have put it on popcorn yeah
Starting point is 00:07:31 there it is there it is so you've had it more or less okay okay so we're learning a lot we're learning a lot about each other where are you on the you know like the tins of popcorn that you would get at the mall i love a good tin of popcorn i'm not mad i'm not a super sweet popcorn girly but i do like when they mix the the like a white cheddar caramel or something fire my mom is also from chicago and chicago has like this big thing around oh yeah what's the spot like what's i can't remember the name what's the name do you know alex producer producer just, you're from Chicago area. Garrett's.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Garrett's. Thank you, Justin. See, we always have proper Chicago representation here. There's like Nuts on Clark has the bags too. She can do that. But Garrett's, yeah, that's the way to get the tub of the three. Yeah, for sure. Wait, your mom's from Chicago?
Starting point is 00:08:19 She is. Is your dad from Chicago? No, my dad's from Alabama. Oh, okay. See, it's interesting because my grandparents came out from Chicago to LA. There's like, there's always, there's always that poll happening. I think it was mostly the second world war that did that for my grandparents, but anyway, Sequoia, we will get to know you and your love of popcorns and other things much better. But first, we've got to tell people, give them a light preview as to what we're going to talk about today. We're talking about what is going on with Donald Trump's hands. You were prior on Twitter and everyone's like, he's got syphilis or it's, you know, he's playing too much PlayStation. We will we will dive into this because I don't think it's syphilis.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But we have James Carville to thank thank for that the raging cajun uh and former clinton advisor also in just other just very obviously culturally significant news we must discuss whatever the fuck is going on in this new jennifer lopez movie we must yeah i'm i saw the trailer i like to think i have good sort of visual comprehension, but I'm not sure if I can adequately describe what this is. So we will take that journey together and try and figure out using our combined intellectual strength to decode whatever that trailer was. miles you you saying that i wish you were describing like made in manhattan too or something like just the most normal jennifer lopez movie for real of uh what was it marry me marry me say yes what was that movie was that was that the movie i think was the yeah i dude i don't know why i watch every like when j-lo puts something out i fucking watch it i don't know why a lot of people
Starting point is 00:10:02 right yeah yeah a lot of people feel that way about her acting roles yeah i don't know why a lot of people right yeah yeah a lot of people feel that way about her acting roles yeah i don't know but it's not even i don't know what the thing is i'm like i gotta respect it i think it's because she was selena and i'm like ever since then i'm like you know what j-lo i'll i don't know why i'm gonna watch everything even your straight to peacock movie black people love selena miles oh hell exactly Exactly. And also like West Coast, like West Coast, no matter what. But especially like for black people on the West Coast, you know what time it is with Selena. So we got it. We got a shout out.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Selena. But then we also talk about this conservative Michael Knowles. He's so smart that he actually proved that white people are incapable of seeing race. He's figured it out. He has the proof or he will just very in bad faith, misinterpret a survey and say that's what it is. But anyway, we'll get to that plenty more. We might even talk about blue Monday, which is like this thing that happens in the UK. And sometimes we see it over here and what is going on with that. It just turns out it's a a sales thing but we'll get into that plenty more but first Sequoia B Holmes we must ask you what is something from your search history okay I recently searched Billie Eilish and Rene Rapp
Starting point is 00:11:18 together in a photo because I have a hard time believing that's not the same person tell me that's not the same person it is the that's not the same person. It is the same human being. At a baseline, related. And it doesn't appear that they are. They're cousins. Right. I'm not getting proof of that. So, undefined theory.
Starting point is 00:11:35 What do you think? Is it the head shape? Because that's where I feel like they've, with their blonde hair, the way their hair falls and their head face shape, I'm like, okay, that's, we're in Eilish territory. You know what? Honestly, it's the whole middle part of their face. It's really the whole face, but it's something about the eyes. They both have these kind of like
Starting point is 00:11:52 not dead behind the eyes, but a little like they've seen some things behind the eyes. Yeah. They both have that look. Yeah. It almost feels like they're both characters in a movie where it's twins swapping lives or something, you know? A parent trap.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I need a parent trap from them. That would be so good. Yeah. She also, like, I would believe if she was related to Pink, too. Oh, I could definitely see that. Yeah, yeah, I could see that, too. That makes sense. But are we putting another, or should we put the conspiracy theory out there now that they are one and the same?
Starting point is 00:12:24 I do think, until I see them together. You can't tell me otherwise. So, OK. Yeah, I like this. Again, maybe we just start a podcast about that called How Come Billy and Renee ain't in the same photo ever. Why not put them together now? Put me wrong. Also, oh, I forgot to ask.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I don't. Were you on since you had Haley from Paramore on your podcast? I don't know if I've been on. I don't think you were've been on since then. I'm not positive. I was fucking geeking when I saw that shit. Thanks, guys. I was like blown the fuck away.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And it sounded like you had such a good time. I just wanted to point that out. I saw that. Thank you so much. I thought it was great. It gave me excitement in a way that I don't think I ever have. I was like, yo, fucking Haley's on the front of the group! I was so excited to post it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I was like, ooh. Were you sitting on that for a minute? For a minute. It was very hard. I don't think I've ever sat on a picture like that. I hope to one day be like, oh my god, post this shit. I couldn't think I've ever sat on a picture like that. Like, I hope to one day be like, oh, my God, post this shit. I couldn't even sleep.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I woke up at like 5 a.m. like posting it. Yeah, it's going up right now. You're like for the East Coast, obviously. For people in the UK. They are. Yep, they got it. People in the GMT Greenwich Mean Time also love Paramore. So we might as well post it then at that time.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah, they got it too. What's something that you think is overrated, Sequoia? Cold Stone Creamery is the most overrated ice cream chain among them. For sure. Go on. What is it about it? What are we saying here? It's so rich. Cold Stone is so rich.
Starting point is 00:13:55 The flavor combinations are not interesting or original. And it's just kind of gross. It tastes like I'm eating cheese. And we know I don't like cheese. I talked about this on the first episode. I don't like cheese and it tastes like i'm eating cheese and we know i don't like cheese i talked about this on the first episode i don't like cheese and it tastes like i'm eating cheese every time i eat cold stone i like i like that you've come by the anti-cold stone and then with the even bigger take of anti-cheese that's great like just escalating yeah yeah just the fucking attack of me like it tastes like cheese I don't want to eat that.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Okay, then what's a superior ice cream for you? Like you're saying, get that out of the way. Allow me to introduce you or we should be embracing this place. I'm a Jenny's ice cream girly. I think that's in different spots in the U.S., not as pervasive as a Cold Stone. I also love Haagen-Dazs. Haagen-Dazs has fallen out of public grace recently. Or public, I don't know, just public in general. But I like Haagen-Dazs haagen-dazs has fallen out of public grace recently or public i don't know
Starting point is 00:14:45 just public in general yeah but i like haagen-dazs it's great yeah haagen-dazs because like the whole thing was like it was based on like a fake like the the mirage of it being this fancy ice cream place but the people were just like what can we name this shit to make people think this shit is fucking fancy and they said haagen-dazs and they got my ass because yeah i'll stay with a little pint of haagen-dazs in the freezer it's good yeah jenny's has some good i mean jenny's i feel like they have nationwide distribution now like yeah oh yeah it isn't like grocery stores and stuff yeah because whenever i see it i'm like oh shit okay what about you alex yeah alex you got where were you in on this ice cream debate i i had never thought about my opinion of Cold Stone.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And I think I don't like it that much either because I'm not that into toppings on ice cream. And the whole process is sort of toppings all over. I don't really need that many toppings. The ice cream is so good already. It's wild. The ice cream is good, but it's not at Cold Stone. That's why I have to lean on the toppings. This is the thing.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I used to work when I worked at this laser tag place back in high school and college doing like kids birthdays the spot was above a cold stone and so i would go down there and i would trade like laser tags and shit with like the people that worked at the cold stone they're like oh let me hook you up i was like please don't i just want i just want this sweet cream ice cream on its own like that was the only thing i ate there i did not like they were like oh you're gonna try the apple pie a la mode i'm like i do not please listen to me when i say you're hooking me up by just giving me a big ass cup of sweet cream ice cream that's hard yeah that's it yeah that's it yeah it's not so difficult is
Starting point is 00:16:22 it yeah jenny's got it what's the one that I fucking I'm absolutely in love with over there? Is it Salt and Sal? Gooey Buttercake. Gooey Buttercake. Oh, at Jenny's. Yes. The Buttercake one at Jenny's. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Their Salty Caramel is my favorite. It's so good. It's perfect. Jenny's. And we're looking, we're willing to look past the Listeria scare that you had a few years ago. You know what I mean? Stop it. Come sponsor the show.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Stop it. I remember it full on. And everyone was like, no, our favorite ice cream place. I'm like, just eat around it. Eat around the Listeria. Enough. Please. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:59 When you said that, I suddenly imagined it being Jenny's fault personally. I don't know who Jenny is. Just a character popped into my mind who's like, oopsie-ing something into the ice cream. That was the story. One of the Desperate Housewives living on Listeria Lane or wherever the fuck it was. Was she? No. Are you joking?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Okay, thank you. Wasn't their shit called Wisteria Lane? Wisteria. That sounds right. Wisteria. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, sorry. That was a bad.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You know what? I'll see myself out. I'm doing Desperate Housewives references in the year of our Lord 2024. No, it's fine. It's worse because I fell for it. Sequoia, what is something you think is underrated? We're going to stick with the ice cream theme here. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Perfect. Or frozen yogurt in general. A simple tart flavored frozen yogurt or a plain vanilla ice cream is so superior. And if you have those done well, you don't need all the bells and whistles that everybody's doing right now. Yep. Who's your, what's your, who's your favorite tart,
Starting point is 00:17:53 frozen yogurt or ice cream? You know, I'm pretty indifferent. I can get it from yogurt land. I could do tutti frutti. I could do pink berry. I could do pretty much anything with a tart frozen yogurt. I haven't seen that messed up
Starting point is 00:18:05 yeah it's good because it's got that little yogurty bite to it just a little a little pucker yeah it's good it reminds me like when i could like my mom wouldn't buy me like snack pack or like chocolate pudding at the store she's like you should be in yogurt and i'm like there's no fucking sugar in here but i'll but like that's all i could get down on so once i remember when pinkberry came out i was like like, again, I'll just eat this. No toppings. If you put regular yogurt in the freezer, is it frozen yogurt
Starting point is 00:18:32 or is there something special about frozen yogurt? Is it not just frozen yogurt? I don't know. I don't know how they make it. I'm realizing this. This is an experiment. This is probably good. Alex, are you a topping guy? Are you simple pleasures guy because i know obviously you don't like your popcorn simple do you like your yogurt right i think i i'm very excited that i'm finding all three of us are so
Starting point is 00:18:57 on the team of simple dessert and like make dessert just one thing when you're having dessert just do it well yeah like i even the how. Winter always reminds me that I don't like eggnog very much because I don't need dessert to also be alcohol. I can just have dessert. Oh, alright. The team's breaking up. I never say you gotta have alcohol in it, but the flavor fucking goes. I don't even put alcohol in mine.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Yeah, the flavor goes. I will fucking eat the ice cream. Oh, we were doing so fucking well, man. This is, I jinxed it. Before this, Alex. This year, or this past year, I found a ice cream sandwich that had eggnog in the middle.
Starting point is 00:19:35 It was an eggnog ice cream sandwich. Was this also Trader Joe's? That sounds pretty good. Where was that at? It was at like Ralph's or Vaughn's, one of those main grocery store chains. It was the Signature Selects brand, like the grocery store chain brand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Yeah. Sometimes they don't miss. They understand our simple palates that we're little babies who just want to drink eggnog and have yogurt all day. All right. Well, we're going to take a break. We're going to come back and we're going to get into some just hard hitting those. Like, does Trump have syphilis right after this? This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.
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Starting point is 00:23:19 And we're back. And we're back. And I'm sure some of you have probably heard of this or luckily, maybe some of you have are doing the good thing and not spending a lot of time on social media. But there is a picture of Donald Trump that was really just doing the rounds on the Internet on Thursday or on Wednesday, going into Thursday as well, where he was leaving the courtroom where he was absolutely having a fit. We'll probably touch on that next week. And was just giving just a wave to the supporters and the reporters.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And someone took a photo of this. And on his right hand, not unlike a 14-year-old's yearbook photo, it was covered in red splotches. And people were like, what is going on with his hands? People online joked that he said the red spots could be everything from those McDonald's ketchup, because, you know, he loves McDonald's, to red ink from top secret documents. But then the word syphilis started trending on social media. And if you clicked it, you're like, what are we doing here? And it all basically, it seems like it all comes from an unverified claim made by James Carville, the raging Cajun who loved to just talk a lot of smoke about Donald Trump. And on his live cast show, he said this about the photo.
Starting point is 00:24:33 He said, they don't look like cuts to me. They look like sores. And I've asked a number of MDs what medical condition manifests itself through hand sores. And the answer is immediate and unanimous secondary syphilis i'm sorry i said what's the secondary syphilis he also said maybe the picture was doctored or whatever maybe the story will go somewhere maybe it won't it's like okay sir first of all you can't just i know you want to just be saying this shit but this is not journalism at all maybe it was doctored or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And maybe it'll go somewhere that I'm saying out loud that this is syphilis. Whatever. It's my podcast. Yeah. You mean he's not going to get the Pulitzer for guessing about hands? He's not going to get that award that they always give every year? Oh, and I'm just, I don't, what is secondary syphilis? I would imagine my theory on what secondary syphilis is, is you have syphilis, right?
Starting point is 00:25:27 And that manifests, you know, where syphilis usually manifests, I'd imagine somewhere on your junk. And then if you're Donald Trump and you tug it often, where does it go? Your hand. Oh, okay. So that's what, that's my theory. Yeah. What syphilis? There's just, there's too much going on.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And that was so specific. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's just, there's too much going on. And that was so specific. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a generalized infection. It's characterized by systemic symptoms. Okay. Whatever. All that to say is when I look at that, I'm like, as much as I want to be like, yeah, man, Carville fucking nailed it. This dude has syphilis and it's on his hand.
Starting point is 00:26:03 That's like, that's where everything goes. But like everything, like so many people like started talking about this, that like other like news outlets were like based on this syphilis claim, like they were reaching out to dermatologists to be like, what is it like? What could be going on? And most people said like, it's probably a rash caused by like over washing, which makes sense. We know Trump is like a germaphobe.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I honestly think it's from golfing. That looks like where it is like on your hand. That's from just swinging a golf club all the time. Like that looks like a friction injury is again, look, I'm not here to defend Donald Trump and his hands and whatever the fuck, but it's just like the people who are getting so giddy about the simplest thing is just a little too much for me like be real he's playing so much fucking golf and he sucks he's probably his techniques probably all fucked up that he's got a lot of blisties
Starting point is 00:26:55 okay yeah and i i think a lot of people are giving like this sort of clap theory a lot more weight mostly because of trump's love of not ever making sense when he's speaking out loud. And they're like, look, got to his brains, man. And people claim it's like it's it's his it's his mental deterioration due to the syphilis. It could also be because he's old and highly inarticulate. But here, a lot of people are saying like, because recently he said this, I'm just going to play this clip where he started talking about banks, but then it became about something else. I try and follow along with whatever Donald Trump was saying here in New Hampshire. But we're also going to play strong protections to stop banks and regulators from trying to debank you from your, you know, your political beliefs, what they do.
Starting point is 00:27:44 They want to debank you and we're going to debank think of this they want to take away your rights they want to take away your country the things you're doing all electric cars give me a break if you want an electric car but they don't go far they're very expensive they're going to be made they're like boom syphilis did someone i feel like someone taught him the word debunk and then he's just messing it up. Oh, is that what he's trying to say? Debank? Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I don't know. Or he's starting off, right? He said he wants to play strong protections. I think this is a culture war thing to stop banks and regulators from debanking you because that's like financially deplat like hate sites or people who are involved in hate speech you see where they're like oh okay this bank will no longer bank with me or i can't sell my like kkk fucking like t-shirts with this they don't want to do any of my consumer like transactional banking i think that's what he meant because that's what's like to debank you from your political that's they want to and we're gonna debank think of this they're
Starting point is 00:28:45 taking away your country it's like that's where we always end up yeah i mean i think that's where it's like and then maybe reflexively just went into like just you know doing the rah rah like let's get all angry about uh the fact that america is a diverse place it felt but then electric car then he did electric cars. He hit us with electric cars. That's where I really got lost. I don't understand. How do we get here?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If his flow is caused by syphilis, he's had syphilis for his entire life. Yeah. Just seeing it on his hands. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. We've, we've always just called it Trump jazz. That's just what he does. Right. It's like, you think it's like, and then he just changes up to something else. And now he's just like playing in a completely different key.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And you've got to follow along with all the changes. But yeah, you know, James Carville, as much as I like to say that, you know, I like that Donald Trump is lower than snake nipples. Maybe there's a different explanation here for his blisters, which it might look like, but who knows? I feel like it's such a media literacy thing. Broadly, people just need to know that if a story sounds way, way too exciting and good to you, that's the story you check the most.
Starting point is 00:30:04 If you're thrilled about Donald Trump suddenly having weird public syphilis, it it's probably it's probably too much of a treat we're back to talking about dessert you know what i mean like okay okay new flavor from jenny's secondary siffy with with i'm not i'm not even wouldn't even describe yeah i wouldn't even describe that but we get it and like it's true alex like I think a lot of people, like with anything, when your confirmation bias is set to a certain direction or a certain flow of things, narratively speaking, all you need is something that sort of begins to intersect with that. To be like, yeah, dude, he's got syphilis all over his hands, man.
Starting point is 00:30:39 He's losing his mind. It's like, relax. I know you don't want him to be president, but let's maybe focus on other things that might feel more substantive than just being like, it's the sy i know you don't want him to be president but like let's maybe focus on other things that might feel more substantive than just being like it's the same my last yeah well let's focus our energy on something truly confounding more than donald trump's hand source the trailer The trailer for Jennifer Lopez's new Amazon Prime movie just hit the internet. And, huh? Was my first reaction.
Starting point is 00:31:11 It's called This Is Me Now, a love story. And it's also the name of her new album, which also comes out the same day. So are we doing a lemonade type thing here,-lo is that what this is now i'm that's i'm look i have to i have to i'm just i'm looking at the pieces and i'm trying to put the information together to try and make sense of this or is this a musical that's what it is is it a feature-length gucci ad because that's what i also suspect i'm wondering how much money gucci put in on this because there is so much gucci in that trailer i was like okay like we get it like you either you're sponsored by gucci or they're sponsoring
Starting point is 00:31:54 this whole thing but nobody seems to be sure one person on twitter said that the plot was seemingly about quote a sex addict who works in a nuclear post-apocalyptic factory which kind of tracks visual visually like where are we what's happening what do we like the open this like the trailer opens says with a credit that says the movie is from the heart soul and dreams of jennifer it's like from the heart soul and dreams of jenn. I'm like, okay. Okay. Go on. Like, what is this about? It seems very dark. But then it plays like a, like a rom-com or something where, but they say she's a sex addict and she's getting married too much. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:37 What, what, what do you think? What is going on here? Or what were the most confusing parts for you guys watching this whole thing? I mean, the genre is the most confusing part. Like, I don't even know. I don't know if this is scripted. I'm positive that it's scripted, but like, it's not super clear immediately. I don't know if it's a musical.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I don't know if it's feature length. I literally don't know anything. Yeah. Yeah. Alex, you're smarter than most people. What is this about? got that vibe from the trailer maybe it's kind of a the city is a character kind of thing like it's just in the background of the film i don't i really don't understand that that big title of from the dreams of jennifer lopez i feel like somebody at least kind of knows this is out of
Starting point is 00:33:35 control yeah like that's it on it and maybe j-lo maybe j-lo stopped smoking weed and her dreams got so wild she's like y'all i figured out out my lemonade. So everybody says I'm a sex addict, but then I'm getting married to three different dudes because you know how I like to get married. And then I'm playing, I'm dancing on a basketball court, but then I have a hazmat suit on in a steampunk industrial complex where I'm also performing with the other. Right. It's, I don't know, but it's intriguing. I'm intrigued. I want to know more. And when you look at the people and they say like starring Fat Joe, Trevor Noah,
Starting point is 00:34:12 Kim Petras, Post Malone, Kiki Palmer, Sophia Vergara, Jennifer Lewis, Jay Shetty, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Sad Guru, the dude from YouTube doing all the spiritual shit, Derek Huff and Ben affleck i was like okay you lost me again i yeah i'm i'm not sure because there's like also these moments where she it looks like she's like on somehow like ripping the fabric of space time yeah sure it gives like really big disney channel original movie with movie with a budget. Like a high school musical production. Big budget, though.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Meets Interstellar. Yeah. Because the visual effects are like, they don't look cheap at all. Like, they don't look janky. Like, it would be one thing. I was like, this looks janky. I'm like, there's a lot of money in this. And I think Lacey Mosley, she was saying something on twitter about it how they're
Starting point is 00:35:09 like look she just went in there and said like all this wild shit and they just bought it in the room like they didn't give a fuck they're like yep we're all in on this we love it so much jlo we love it jennifer green lit how much money do you need okay uh 40 million dollars that's the life i want to have too. I admire that. Yeah. I have to say this does seem like some shit that I would do. It was just very zany off the wall. I'm going to sing and I'm going to dance and this is going to be my thing in my life story.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I get it. I get it, JLo. Yeah. It's totally like, that's what throws me off is like, there's some really dark visuals along with stuff that is like so pop, like not even like pop music like popular culture like rom-com like sleepless in seattle type stuff yeah but but then like you said we go to interstellar and i'm like i whatever i'm probably watch it yeah i don't know i don't know what it is but no idea i love it i think i think yeah yeah is the is the problem here that jennifer lopez is too talented like that opens up so many avenues for what this can be like like she can
Starting point is 00:36:15 dance and sing and do fashion and do like five genres of movies so we don't know what this is sing i don't know if she can she does she does say she definitely can dance oh yeah she can right she can dance so she does sing so she can put an outfit together but all right she you know she'll be able to look visual artists like that that's where i'm a little bit like i'm i don't i did not know let's let's see like i'm not trying to be disrespectful i'm just trying to say oh i did not know that about you j-lo that you were a visionary because i just know you to be a very talented performer but i did not know this is art do we think and sequoia i know you recoiled a bit is she trying to get in the lane of some of these other artists like beyonce who are like you thought it was just singing and dancing i'm
Starting point is 00:37:02 gonna fucking you thought i'm seeing art in five? I'm going to fucking... You thought. I'm seeing art in five dimensions. That's why I'm ripping the fabric of space-time, talking to Neil deGrasse Tyson. Come along for the ride. I don't think she's trying to do that. It kind of seems like she's in on the joke, or they're in on the joke,
Starting point is 00:37:20 based on the From the Dreams of Jennifer Lopez. That kind of makes me feel like you're in on the joke. There was no joke when it came to lemonade. We was not giggling. Yeah. That was so serious. was so serious right right right but that's what i'm saying like could you like do you think this could even have like a bit of like winking at the audience like i know this is kind of i do you do i really i hope i really do think that okay well what if it isn't like what if that's like what y'all think like is it if it's executed well enough i think she could pull it i think she could pull it off if it's executed well enough okay okay yeah well we'll have to have
Starting point is 00:37:52 some art critics on uh to really examine this yeah further because i love a good musical now singing and dancing in a number i'm in so i'm already wanting you to win j-lo please come through for me she's i mean how old is j-lo she's again the time i think she's like 50 lopez come on now what are we talking here 54 let him know halfway to 60 eating the girlies oh come on jennifer man i'm just like, is it? I mean, it's genetics and obscene wealth that I think puts you like in a time machine like that. We're like, I don't know, stress. I mean, I haven't had a driver look me in my eyes since 1988.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Yeah. So from that aspect, I think that was someone was saying that, right? It was Jennifer. Like someone was driving Jennifer Lopez around and like they couldn't look her in the eye kind of thing. Like that was for real. Like, why do so many celebrities have the note that people can't look them in the eye? What's going on? Are they okay? Or is that like an urban legend?
Starting point is 00:38:56 I've heard this story from about a number of people now. About JLo not looking you in the eye? No, about celebrities not want to be looked in the eye. Remember when Ellen didn't want to be looked in the eye? Oh, yeah. And there's one other one that was notable that was like, don't look at me. Right. Why?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Alex, do you think the looking in the eye could be like our confirmation bias with Trump's syphilis? We're like, yeah, I believe that. Ellen don't want to look nobody in the eye. You know what I mean? Thinking they're too good for eye contact? Or is there a real thing to be like no nothing they just don't fuck with eye contact from workers i i feel like it's an evolution of celebrities simply wearing sunglasses but now they're like sunglasses are for plebeians i tell people to not observe that
Starting point is 00:39:36 i have eyes right wow i don't have to wear sunglasses well i'm not gonna cover them you're just gonna not look at them yeah i'm high as fuck to not look at them. Yeah. I'm high as fuck. Do not look at me right now. Oh, now. I can believe now. Yeah. It's really like, I got some stuff going on. Don't look over here. I get it.
Starting point is 00:39:51 But, yeah, but it's such a flex where you're like, I don't need sunglasses. Those motherfuckers just shouldn't look in my direction. How about that? You should hide from me. Stop perceiving my face. Yeah. Exactly. Because I'm me.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Stop perceiving my face. And y'all are not. All right. Well, yeah. perceiving my face yeah exactly because i'm me and y'all are not all right um well yeah zeitgang let us know what do you think this is going to be a comedy do you think or not comedy but do you think it's going to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek is this her pushing her boat out to be just a complete like you know visionary and doing a whole new lane i don't know is it a gucci ad that's the other part. I know Gucci had to have funded some dimension of this. I just cannot believe
Starting point is 00:40:30 that I was hit with so much Gucci iconography and they don't have something to do with this shit. It would be fantastic if this turned out to somehow be like 30 seconds long even though the trailer is bigger. It's truly just a commercial. That's it. truly just a commercial that's it yeah the trailer was right does this come out on april 1st when is the when is the date no right no i think it comes out in february oh okay yeah yeah okay i mean but who knows yeah
Starting point is 00:40:58 but she pushes it back she's like actually i have to push the release back to march yeah march 32nd right 32nd yes Are there 31 days in March? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. See, I knew that. See, that joke landed.
Starting point is 00:41:11 All right. Let's move on to something a little more confounding, aggravating, but also so predictable. So right now, I feel like a lot of conservatives, they're loving to do this thing right now is to pretend that America has no history of racism or is currently having a contentious battle with the history of racism of the United States. We have people like Vivek Ramaswamy, Nikki Haley going around saying things like America was never racist, except a couple of years ago when they were very racist to me as being the only Sikh Indian family in this town in South Carolina but after that there has been no racism aside from chattel slavery and other things like that or manifest destiny and there was no racism during the Trail of Tears and things like that and then the genocide of indigenous people and taking the land and aside from that we I don't understand why people are bashing our history just makes no sense and then people like Charlie Kirk kirk are trying to take down
Starting point is 00:42:05 like the contributions of people like martin luther king just like the latest conservative tactic which is again to be like racism was never a thing in order to because i think the long game here is if like from what i'm seeing is that to attack the civil rights act and then say if there was no racism to begin with there was actually no need to have all these weird protections for marginalized people in the Civil Rights Act. And I think we need to rethink that because we were never, and now look what it's doing. It's just causing all these problems.
Starting point is 00:42:37 You see what I'm saying? But Michael Knowles is a contributor over at the Daily Wire, and he is mostly known for his violent homophobia. But this week he decided to talk about another thing he knows absolutely nothing about, which is race. And he's saying he can now prove through social science one of the most beloved tropes of racist politicians, which is, I don't see race.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I just, I'm unable to see race at all. The way he gets into the story is because the new coach of the New England Patriots is a black man. And he was talking about, he's like, I absolutely do see race because it affects people very deeply. So I do, I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit up here and say, I don't see race. Like I absolutely do. But for the reasons I'm saying, it's to not discount people's experiences as being on the margins of society or being part of a minority group. So that's sort of his inroad into sort of this next really wild quote you're about to hear from him where he breaks down. He's like, I just don't understand like white like white people just truly don't see race. I don't think y'all get it, but here he is in his own words. White people are the only people who do not see color.
Starting point is 00:43:52 In as much as that phrase means anything at all, I don't see color. The only people for whom that is true is white people. What? The only people for whom that has been true ever in the whole history of the world is white people. This is very clear from modern social science. When you ask people their racial consciousness, when you ask people, hey, is race, is your race somewhat or very important to you? Every racial group other than white people is above 50%. what were very important to you? Every racial group other than white people is above 50%. Asians, Hispanics, for black people, it's above 70%. What's the number for white people? 15. White people have zero racial consciousness, 15%, I guess. They really don't see color.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Everyone else does, and everyone else has for all of history, which is how we've ended up in a situation today where white people are the only group that you can discriminate against by law and according to the mores of society. Woo! Woo! Michael Knowles. Alex, do you have anything to say? knows. Alex, do you have anything to say? Even if any of it was true, it didn't make sense on its own thing.
Starting point is 00:45:10 He said it was zero white people, but also 15% white people. Which one is it? And how would either of those... I just can't stand it when people invoke a phrase like the whole history of the world and then don't cite anything. Well, this is the wild part.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It's always wild. Right? Because to start, he's citing this Pew Research study that came out during Black History Month, I think like two years ago. especially black people, black Americans, feeling a connection to a larger group, like a larger culture that, that is, that connection is vis-a-vis race and like their, the culture of blackness. And then they, then they go down and compare that with like Hispanics, with Asians, et cetera. And it was about their, again, their feelings of connection to their larger community and consider like, he's completely leaving out the part that this is about people that are living in america okay because this is a majority white country
Starting point is 00:46:11 with many people coming here whether through coercion economic or straight up uh just being like go get your ass over here get on this boat like that's that's that's that it's a very specific dimension to sort of look at rather than like being like all these people are like they're like their whole thing like race matters so much to these people like they they can tell your race like that's how he's trying to make it look like and say like for white people that's just not a thing and you're what's blowing me is he's saying race matters. The study was determining if your own race matters to you, not other people's race fucking matters. Make it make sense.
Starting point is 00:46:53 What are you talking about? You're not even talking about things. And if this proves nothing, this proves that white people see themselves as raceless. Right. Not that they don't see other people's race. And the reason that they see themselves as racist because they are the dominant race so they don't have to be othered they are not othered and never mind that's it i that's enough i know but but truly to your point michael it's called hegemony okay people's whiteness typically is not has not mattered because it isn't an obstacle for them to
Starting point is 00:47:23 live happy that's the fuck. Why is that? Because white people are like the people, the respondents in this survey were like, I don't see a race. It's just a different, a completely different experience. And like when you completely leave out the part of like what the experience is
Starting point is 00:47:38 for people who are not white, cis, het, Christian people in this country, a lot of these other things matter a lot because they've typically been presented to you as a reason for you to not get a raise or to not get an opportunity or the reason why people don't want to sit with you or be friends with you and shit like that so it's a very it's very like wild to just like look at that and just in such bad faith like
Starting point is 00:48:01 you see what i'm talking about 15 don't even see race it's like he's illiterate like words don't mean things to him like he read those words and decided that they didn't mean what the word means right they mean something else yeah it it feels like you know again this is like why this like information landscape is so bad right now is that you have people because there are people there are going to be white people who listen to this who are like probably beginning to have some kind of feeling of like interrogating or inspecting or having some introspection about like race and it's like has like it doesn't matter like is it is it bad that i'm white am i bad for being white or something and you have people who just want to like dead any kind of real thought there and just be like
Starting point is 00:48:44 no no stop stop stop stop stop they're trying to make you feel bad because you're white and the DEI stuff that's going to make planes crash. Just please stop thinking. It's a thing to consider. These people are just haters. Right. And you just need to get past that because guess what? We don't see we're actually like, here's a study to help you stay in your place of no growth is we're actually like one of the only people on earth where it doesn't matter. And I think and that's what bothers people is that we honestly, we're just not even capable of having race matter. I can't do this. Slippery slope, slippery slope slippery slope yeah i am i'm so curious about this guy's like co-workers that is his right wing billionaire funded content mill or whatever like do they think he's just doing kind of what the rest of them do for work
Starting point is 00:49:40 or is he really going even beyond what they say when they when they log into the office i mean this feels this feels like part and parcel of what you hear in conservative media in general which is to always dismiss the idea of racism because if if racism doesn't exist then we never have to take people seriously when they say racism is an issue yeah so to because if you begin to entertain someone's criticism or someone's observation analysis about a society then you would have to begin to engage with that but they don't even want to begin to engage with that because they saw what happened in 2020 some people were like oh man like should i read a book they're like i don't read no fucking book
Starting point is 00:50:20 they're fucking tripping okay they're tripping that's it and it sounds like the kind of shit that like people when they have like bad friends who like you know for example like if you drinking or doing a lot of drugs and you're like yo i'm actually thinking about like doing less like oh really oh so you better than us no don't do that bro the people that are telling you you got a problem they're haters bro they're haters and they want to keep you at the same level they don't want people going whatever outside of that way of thinking so it's always good for them to just be like neutralize any kind of critical thought with this like yeah no thought killer here's a thought killer we're incapable of it and racism doesn't exist i don't know why people keep saying this y'all this is so wild to me that
Starting point is 00:51:03 don't you know social science disproves that don't know why people keep saying this, y'all. This is so wild to me. Don't you know? Social science disproves that. Don't you know social science? Right. And then they can go and say that at, you know, the next, like, local gathering of people. And they'll be like, well, I believe that's actually, we're incapable. And people are going to be parroting this shit straight back to someone who's trying to actually make a point. Yeah. And then it'll make it to the RNC stage.
Starting point is 00:51:22 And then it'll become more mainstream. And then we'll be fucked. So rnc stage and then it'll become more mainstream and then yeah we'll be fucked so yeah yeah which is wild because with uh nikki haley being like oh you know like racism doesn't exist or whatever guess donald trump has started calling her by her given name nimrata to to begin to turn up the heat on her to be like, just so y'all know. Stop it. She's not white. She is Nimrata. She is Indian. Yeah, you're like, people, it's... See, Nikki?
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah. Watch your motherfucking mouth. Watch your mouth. Look it. Don't get cozy with them. Don't get too cute and cozy. Yeah, because I understand the feeling that to be in the in-group might feel like it's safe,
Starting point is 00:52:04 but the second you are a fucking obstacle or they just need you're too much for them, they're going to fucking throw your ass out. Just like I was talking about Vivek Ramaswamy on the Babylon Bee, which is like the conservative shitty version of the onion. They're already making jokes that they're like, oh, he's going to be working the White House 7-Eleven. That's going to be his job in the administration. And you're like, look at how they're already doing yeah like and i'm sorry but they don't see race though yeah what is that based on that's based on the simpsons that's what i thought yeah this is i have a simpsons i have a simpsons based philosophy yeah i mean you know a joke is good if the simpsons did it and was not even the first to do it yeah yeah yeah truly i mean yeah so michael knowles uh you're trying it but again i think this is
Starting point is 00:52:52 important to see like this is this is the kind of mental conditioning inoculation that they're doing on the conservative side because again i'm honestly there's so much talk about being like the civil rights act man if we can just get that out of the way and you're like holy shit like don't even get the fuck out of me i literally did not know that this was going on i'm terrified people are that you i hear this more and more and more like when i'm reading conservative shit or like looking at their little fucking video podcast and shit there's like this real like that's why charlie kirk spent so much time with with the help of this black man to be like uh here black man can you tell everybody why mlk was actually bad and like and just uh you know
Starting point is 00:53:35 drag his name through the dirt and you know that way we can just prove this point that everything that he was trying to do was actually bad therefore the civil rights struggle was just for not like it was just all a waste of time it's dangerous it's dangerous very yikes yeah yeah i give that two yikes all right let's take another break and we'll come back to talk about blue monday and i wish we were talking about the new order song but we're not but we'll be back after this. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
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Starting point is 00:57:19 and kind of brought the song back? And my younger esteemed guests were like, sir, are you talking about debanking again? What's on your hands? And I'm like, no, it was this band. They brought the whole wave back. It was orgy. And shout out to my geriatric millennials and older who remember when orgy brought the Blue Monday song or Blue New Damn New Order song Blue Monday back. when orgy brought the blue monday song or blue new damn new order song blue monday back all that to say we need to talk about blue monday the capitalist hoax that continues to persist i
Starting point is 00:57:53 wasn't fully aware of this as a concept did you guys know about blue monday at all alex what about you i've heard that phrase but i think it's mostly because of kurt vonnegut's writing and he's referencing like an advertising concept for washing machines right you can beat Alex, what about you? I've heard that phrase, but I think it's mostly because of Kurt Vonnegut's writing. He's referencing like an advertising concept for washing machines. Right. You can beat Blue Monday by having easier laundry to do in like the 1950s. Ah, well, again, along that similar vein, apparently like this is something that's really big in like Europe, mostly the UK and in Canada as well. They've heard tell of Blue Monday. and in Canada as well. They've heard tell of Blue Monday. But apparently, it is the third Monday in January, and it is known as, quote, the most depressing day of the year. And I'm like, what
Starting point is 00:58:34 does that exactly mean? Like, here's headlines from the Standard in the UK. Blue Monday 2024. When is Blue Monday and how to beat it? Another headline. It's officially the most depressing day of the year. An expert offers some tips to lift the gloom on Blue Monday. Blue Monday is coming up. Are you prepared for the most depressing day of the year? So we had it. I didn't realize it was the most. I guess that MLK day for us was Blue Monday.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Damn. Yes. Maybe that's why they're trying to get him out of here. I know. I'm surprised there wasn't like, oh, coincidence much that Blue Monday is also Martin Luther King Day. Right. The most depressing day for white people. So they're saying, are you prepared?
Starting point is 00:59:15 I'm like, okay, so what is going on? Now, some of these outlets do admit that there is no actual scientific evidence to back up this premise, this concept of Blue Monday. But also not all of them call out this concept of Blue Monday. But also, not all of them call out the fact that Blue Monday is just a straight up scam. You're getting bamboozled. The culprit, perhaps, is late stage capitalism. This pseudoscientific reasoning behind why, quote, Blue Monday is so depressing involves like this actual, I mean, actual, I only say that because there are like like equation like it looks like a math equation a legit looking mathematical equation which equates things
Starting point is 00:59:51 like debt motivation weather and the time that's elapsed since christmas as a way to determine that like to quantify that this is the most depressing day but even anyone anyone who like looks at this for like one moment you'll realize like how the fuck can you even compute this because there aren't even like shared units of measurement like how do you compare it's like saying okay a large pizza times the gdp of brazil equals uh that mickey rooney is actually bill Billy Eilish's grandfather. Yeah. And you're like, what? Is this metric SADS or imperial SADS?
Starting point is 01:00:29 I can't figure it out. Right. How do we measure the depression? And whose unit are we using? And I guess the inventor of this equation was a guy named Dr. Cliff Arnall, who was hired by a fucking travel company, Sky Travel. They're defunct now, back in 2005, to basically just contribute to a press release.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And they wanted to sell people on the idea that there is a most depressing day of the year, which would then inspire the consumer to consume and to book a vacation, thanks to Sky Travel bringing this all to light and he kind of has like some credibility to back up these claims he's like yeah well you know i was a cardiff university psychologist but then pretty quickly the uh like cardiff university was like no this dude was a quote former part-time tutor like let's not get this like fucked up like he
Starting point is 01:01:22 was not that's not what he was doing and he later tried to walk back this great cultural myth that he created by saying it was never his, quote, intention to make January even worse for people. And he even admitted the idea of Blue Monday was not particularly helpful. But guess what? That fucking apology was part of another commercial campaign for a travel company virgin atlantic police keep fucking with this guy they said the campaign will encourage the nation to dispel their blue monday beliefs and instead embrace the new possibilities that another year can hold possibilities like traveling to Thailand or Vietnam or South America. It's just like one of those really, it's just super cynical when you're just like kind of like using this idea that, yeah, winter is hard for people.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Coming out of the holidays is hard for people. Having resolutions and like trying to stick to those can lead to people being demotivated. But then to be like, book your package holiday with us. Wild. Check out Marbella Spain. It's absolutely popping. And the time he also, he supposedly cracked the formula for the happiest day of the year. He said, oh yeah, I'm doing that now.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Because he pivoted to saying he was a freelance happiness guru, which sounds like me when I was just like dating a bunch of people and smoking weed in my 20s. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, well, what do I do? I'm like a freelance happiness guru. What the fuck? It's like a vibes curator. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But, and for some reason,
Starting point is 01:03:00 I kind of respect a vibes curator more than a freelance. I think it's just the wording is just more with our times. Yeah, guru's bad. Guru is bad overall. We have too many gurus, especially on social media. freelance i think it's just the the wording is just more with our times yeah guru's bad guru yeah it was bad overall we have too many gurus especially on social media yeah vibes curator you can say you're a vc that's kind of nice you know wow yeah yeah we should be c are you sequoia are you a vibes curator do you do you i like to think so absolutely i definitely do curate vibes yeah yeah like i think the same way if i'm having you know like a like a gathering or somebody's like being like oh like i want to have like a dinner i'm like
Starting point is 01:03:30 okay what do you like what are you thinking like you don't have a spread is it going to be like a spread you want a bounty for people do people bring in their own thing do you want to just have it so your guests are like blown away by your hospitality is it a group effort i feel it could be me overthinking maybe that's a vibes curator a little bit you know a little type a a little overthink but i never heard nobody i like that though i also like to host like that so i feel it yeah i mean i love can i for the record i love a spread same when people put a spread out there is nothing that blows me more away than somebody who's like you thought of all these other things just to put out here for this little gathering?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Like, these are fine meats. Maybe not cheeses. No cheeses for me. But yogurt flavored ice creams and popcorn. What's your spray? It's going to be frozen yogurt and popcorn. Yes. The fro-yo right there.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Frozen yogurt and popcorn. I'll give you some Cheez-Its, some Goldfish. Oh, you eat Cheez-Its though? Oh, yeah. I like cheese flavor things. Okay. Yes, but not cheese. Flavor blast?
Starting point is 01:04:32 Yeah, I like the flavor blast. Okay, Alex. Goldfish. Flavor blast? Oh, they're great. Yeah. Yeah, the more the better. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:41 All right. I'm just making sure. Just making sure. Are you a vibes curator? Do you see yourself as a vibes curator, Alex? I think maybe i i don't know if i aspire to it i think i try to participate you know but i'm not a big spread builder i'm more of a spread uh supporter or like oh good job keep it up okay i like that that's also but that is good you are contributing to the vibes in a positive way yeah so i think vibes consumer vibes contributor these are all contribute consume or be a connoisseur or curator either way
Starting point is 01:05:12 you do you do what you got to do but yeah the reason why like blue monday it just like sticks around like apparently all like in so much marketing people are still using it as like a fucking being like hey man like you want to buy a fucking big Mac by get the fucking vibe meal and shit. Burger King that a vibe meal anyway, but it seems like the calm might be working. Cause last year in the United Kingdom, online sales were probably reportedly shot up by 18% on blue Monday because
Starting point is 01:05:39 all this shit like, Oh yeah. Like, like it's wild how you can get in people's minds, right? Like in America, black Friday, cyber Monday. it's like yeah you better buy some shit don't be fucking stupid fucking around it's black friday you fucking dumb man go fucking buy something you don't fucking need because that weird mobile phone charger uh costs like half off now like i don't
Starting point is 01:06:02 and i and look at me i bought one but i use it sparingly sparingly but you know like i i try to i try to and then like so it's wild that like they're using this thing of like weaponizing people's own like mental health or like seasonal affective disorder whatever like just to be like oh yeah it's gloomy to be like you know what will fucking help you to buy some shit man that is so ugly. I don't appreciate being manipulated like that. This is so ugly. Well, you know, what are they going to do? Deal with root causes of people's feelings of loneliness, sadness, isolation?
Starting point is 01:06:33 Who would support the pharmaceutical industry if we had to do root causes? Yeah, exactly. Oh, what am I going to do? Pay real wages? LOL. No. No. It's Blue Monday. Okay. Did you buy that, uh, whatever the fuck? Did you buy that Stanley mug? The Stanley Blue Monday. Okay, did you buy that whatever the fuck? Did you buy that Stanley mug? The Stanley?
Starting point is 01:06:47 Right. Yeah. Did you get your Stanley? Oh, man. Yeah. It also just feels fake that it would be a Monday specifically is the saddest day. Like, why? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Tuesdays can be harder. And it just, I don't know. I don't buy that either. I'm kind of with you. I think Tuesdays, Mondays, I get like just because it's the first day back. But Tuesdays, you're like, fuck, bro. It's only like you do this. You're like, it's only fucking Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:07:13 It's the other part. Monday, you know, you're like, it's fucking Monday. But Tuesday, you're like, fuck, then there's Wednesday. Yeah. Thursday. You're so far from what we get on a Tuesday. You're like, nah, never mind. Let me just put it out of my head right now.
Starting point is 01:07:25 We're at Friday today, so we're good. Yeah, exactly. And happy Friday to you. And thank you so much to our guests, our guest, Sequoia B. Holmes. Thank you so much for joining us. It's always a pleasure having you. Where do the people find you, follow you, listen to you and all that very important stuff? You can listen to my podcast anywhere you listen to podcasts, including YouTube. You can find me
Starting point is 01:07:46 on social media at BPLPPod and listen to Black People Love Paramore. It's a fun time. Go see what we're talking about. Yeah, what are some upcoming episodes you guys are talking about? Today I'm talking about the Cheetah Girls. Oh my God, I'm so excited. I love the Cheetah Girls so bad. I recently talked about 13, which is a very dark teen movie that came
Starting point is 01:08:02 out in 2003. I don't know if y'all have seen it. It's wild. If you have not, please go check it out i i just remember hearing about it and be like i don't know about if i need that yeah it was way it was adult eyes and i remember being when i was a kid but yeah that's a raven because i haven't seen it yeah i was like oh that all that was in it what yeah yeah who's in that in 13? Evan Rachel Wood. That's right. That's right. That was the thing that kind of put her on, right?
Starting point is 01:08:29 Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. And also the one that played, the lady that played one of the vampires in Twilight. I can't remember her name right now. Yeah. Nikki Reed. Nikki Reed.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I learned from your show. Sorry. Yes. Nikki Reed. Yeah. Nikki Reed wrote it. She co-wrote it as a 12 year old or 13 year old You know interesting story
Starting point is 01:08:48 I used to get fucking high As hell with one of the cheetah girls Whoa You're going to have to tell me after You're going to have to tell me after It was Keely Not you telling us now Whatever
Starting point is 01:09:04 You know what that tracks We Whatever. You know what? That tracks. That tracks really hard. We were 18. You know what I mean? She had like her fucking whole. I remember she had her little checks and things. And she was like, y'all buy a fucking ounce of it. She could.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I mean. She was smoking. We buy it by the pound. She said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Was not playing. Did not get him to play. Anyway, Keely, I hope you remember me. It's Miles. I used to hang out with Mike and them. We used to the spot all the time yeah yeah yeah shyla buff that was a way that was just a whole other era though um anyway uh what is a tweet or other work of social media that you're enjoying oh i forgot about this it is io adebri and quinta brunson on the red carpet singing the cheetah girls lol um together and
Starting point is 01:09:47 then they put the little fake microphone next to Yami Rami Yusuf oh got it got it got it and he finishes the lyrics for the cheetah girls and I'm like gang wow and that's how influential it is thank you man because like what was the other was it Adrianrian bylon too adrian bylon yes yeah yeah what was the group that the 3l dub right 3lw yo yeah because that was the group keely and them wasn't and adrian came from yeah yeah yeah see this oh shit this is all because i'm telling you all the little child actors and shit they all lived in the oakwood apartments over there off barham in la and like that is sort of like the nexus point for like i grew up in the valley so i would always meet these kids so i have a lot the intersection with the oakwood apartments i have
Starting point is 01:10:31 i have so many stories man that should be its own fucking podcast anyway yeah thank you again sequoia um alex always a pleasure having you you're always so fun just a gentleman and a scholar um and a vibe contributor and consumer. I always appreciate that. Where did the people find you, follow you, and what's the work of media that you've been enjoying? Thank you for this spread. It's great. Media I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:10:56 I got to find a link for you guys. There's a TikTok I saw, and I believe it's in Italy, but they titled it Bongiorno Cat. Because when people say hello to this cat, it meows back three little meows that sounds like, meow, meow, meow. It's Bonjorno, but it's meows. No!
Starting point is 01:11:12 It's very exciting. Yeah. Hold on, I gotta look that up. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I love that. Bonjorno Cat. Oh, shit. Here it is.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Bonjorno. It's so cute oh man italy is such a wonderful place uh what a magical place um you can find me okay well first let me tell you a tweet that i like uh this one is from chase mitchell at chase mitt uh tweeted that photo of donald trump with his like hands all blistered and stuff and just just put a tweet a quote on it said many people said the fajita plate was too hot folks but i picked it up very easily some would say too easily that's a good donald trump impression come on miles ain't that yeah i love that shit that's oh no no no oh and you can find me uh at miles of gray on twitter and instagram you can find jack and i on our basketball podcast miles and jack got mad boosties that's an nba podcast and also find me on
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Starting point is 01:13:05 sped up on TikTok because when I first started hearing, I'm like, wait, I know the vibe of this song. But I think it's one of those tracks that gets like either like played at 3x speed or played at like 0.15 speed, which is what I feel like what all the kids are doing on TikTok now. So anyway, check this one out. It's really dope, I really love her sound The production is really cool And you know, just kind of give you some upbeatness As you head into your weekend The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio So for more podcasts from iHeartRadio
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