The Daily Zeitgeist - Joe Brandon’s WALL, Drew Barrymore FINDS OUT 10.06.23

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

In episode 1560, Miles and guest co-host Super Producer Joelle Monqiue are joined by writer, performer, filmmaker, and host of Past Perfect, Simone Polanen, to discuss… Joe Biden Never Stopped Build...ing Trump’s Border Wall, Matt Gaetz The New Madison Cawthorn? 2023’s Halloween Candy Map Is Here, The Drew Barrymore Show’s Writers Don’t Want To Go Back To The Drew Barrymore Show and more! Joe Biden Never Stopped Building Trump’s Border Wall Trump chides Biden over move to build border wall: ‘I will await his apology’ Biden administration to close border wall gaps in Arizona US to fill border wall gaps in Arizona for safety reasons Has Biden actually not built ‘one meter’ of border wall? Biden administration’s continuation of Trump border wall will destroy Friendship Park, a historical site Border wall that threatened historic US-Mexico Friendship park halted Friendship Park advocates promise to fight government’s border wall construction plans for historic site New border wall destroys binational garden at Friendship Park 2023’s Halloween Candy Map Is Here Most Popular Halloween Candy 2023 The Drew Barrymore Show’s Writers Don’t Want To Go Back To The Drew Barrymore Show LISTEN: Cerca De Ti by Hermanos GutiérrezSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 Well, hello, the Internet, and welcome to season 307, episode 5 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday. Thank you so much for getting us there. It is Friday, October 6th. And you know what that is. It's World College Radio Day.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It's National Coaches Day. Shout out if you ever had a good coach. National Orange Wine Day. I know my hipsters on both coasts loving their orange wine. Let's see. National Body Language Day. Shout out my hipsters on both coasts loving their orange wine. Let's see. National Body Language Day. Shout out to Pseudoscience. National Plus Size Appreciation Day. National
Starting point is 00:02:51 Manufacturing Day. World Smile Day. National Noodle Day. We are jam-packed. There's even more. National Mad Hatter Day. Shout out to everybody with mercury poisoning. Isn't that why the Hatter was mad? Because isn't that like colloquially where it comes from?
Starting point is 00:03:09 Working with mercury? Yes, yeah, because it's a dye in one of the colors. Why do I know this? Yeah, see, we're all on the same page. My favorite murder. Yeah, they did a whole story on it. Yep. Aha, aha. Well, guess what? My name is Miles Gray, aka, in honor of that FEMA broadcast.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Cause I got the vaccine. Zap my brain with 5G. I'm undead. I'm undead. Thanks, Joe Brandon. Shout out to Konichiwa. Wow. You spelled that like Ko and then Frederick, Friedrich Nietzsche and then W.A. Wow. On the discord. I see you. I'm picking up what you're putting down. And guess what, y'all? I am joined. You already heard the lovely tones coming from my guest co-host. Really one of my favorite people to do the show with. I don't know how many more times I have to introduce her as, you know, one of the shining lights out there on the internet. Someone who has impeccable taste when it comes to media. Someone who has their hands on some of the best podcasts in the game right now. Please welcome Joelle Monique!
Starting point is 00:04:16 Hey! Lipstick Donna's back. What's up? How are you? How you doing? I effed up my own birthday plans, so I've been a little sour on it for the past 24 hours. Initially, I told my friends, hey, let's do the 14th. And then my friend was like, I can't do the 14th. I was like, well, it's not gonna be fun without you. Let's do the 7th. But my brain didn't clock the change from the 7th to the 14th.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And then I was like, I really need a break. I filmed a movie last weekend. I'm so glad I took this weekend off and I'm doing my birthday on the 14th. So she reached out, she's like, what time am I picking you up this Saturday? I was like, no, honey, next Saturday. She was like, I'm so glad I took this weekend off. And I'm doing my birthday on the 14th. So she reached out. She's like, what time am I picking you up this Saturday? I was like, no, honey, next Saturday. She was like, I'm out of town next Saturday. I already had this conversation with you.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I was like, no. I got to re-figure out all my birthday plans. Fine, today all my girls are available. The ADD kicked in so hard. So annoying. I will be fine. I will pick myself up. I made myself French toast this morning.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So already a little bit better. We're working it but man the add strikes again she's brutal luckily you you know like i think i think that's a good way to give yourself a pass to have like a birthday three weeks you know what i mean i don't i like this i like this yeah i mean like you know i just recently celebrated my birthday with my mom, like, last weekend. And it was already almost a month ago. But you look. I love it. It's not always bound to the day.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Anyway. It's a season. Let us bring in our guest. Because we always have fantastic guests. Another titan of podcasting. You know, she's worked on countless amazing shows like Reply All, etc. Recently hosted the Amazing History Podcast, Past It, is currently hosting the show Past Perfect.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And not only that, on top of the podcasting, the writing, the performing, and filmmaking. Okay? Please welcome to the third seat, Simone Polanin! Hello, hello. Wow. Hello, Simone. I'm like almost out of breath listening to this introduction.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I've been on such a journey already. I have to hit my inhaler really quick. Make sure I got the lung capacity to keep up. But Simone, thank you so much for joining us. How art thou? How are you? I art fantastic. Thank you for asking.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It's a sunny day here in Brooklyn, you know. Things are good. What's the temperature right now in Brooklyn, you know, things are good. What's the temperature right now in New York? Oh, I can tell you. It is 76 degrees. Very pleasant. Y'all are really living right now. That's what I'm talking about. And you know, our guest yesterday also in Brooklyn and we were talking about the floods. Were you near one of the intersections that was flooding? and we were talking about the floods,
Starting point is 00:06:44 were you near one of the intersections that was flooding? The way he described it. Yeah. I was not. I was a little bit, you know, above ground. But I do know folks who, yeah, got into some hairy situations. Nothing life-threatening, thankfully. But, you know, like couldn't use their water because it would pump raw sewage up into their apartment kind of deal where are those
Starting point is 00:07:05 videos you know because most of the time it's like oh that bus got flooded and then other times i think joelle i think we were on a call actually when we were talking about this but i'm like i feel like the real fucking devastation happens in those basement apartments those days i actually saw a video right after that of somebody like trying to tape up the seam in their door as their apartment is flooding and i was like it's too late and he's just not gonna work i'm so sorry for you uh terrible it horrified i love the logic i love the cartoon logic though just tape the seams and that will hold back the weight of the water the torrential downpour they're really trying it
Starting point is 00:07:40 yeah yeah well you know we love a dream around here um well simone we are going to get to know you a little bit better. But first, I'm going to tell people what we're talking about today. A little bit of politics we got to touch on today because Joe Brandon never stopped building Trump's wall, it turns out. And we're finding a little bit more about what's going on there and why it's probably what's going to just keep happening. I it's probably what's going to just keep happening. We're also going to talk about Matt Gaetz, unfortunately, who might be the new Madison Cawthorn, because Republicans are starting to say some really weird stuff about him in public. And it feels like the you know, the same thing we saw, like the coordinated dismantling of a member of Congress. So they want to oust from their party. So we'll touch on that. touch on that uh also it's time the the annual candy map that we always discuss every year on this show has been released about every state's favorite halloween candy we are going to see you know what is going on you know what what has changed what hasn't changed who's on the come up uh because there's some movers on that list and also drew barrymore we got to talk about drew barrymore she her show's back but guess't? The writers, because they want nothing to do with her after that nonsense that she pulled, trying to be out here self-scabbing or whatever she thought she was doing. But we'll talk about that and plenty more. But first, Simone, asking you, since you're the guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:09:04 And you, since you're the guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Yeah. So this was a very interesting exercise to like go back and see what am I up to? Something that I wanted to highlight is a trio of searches. Jeggings followed by jeggings cringe and finally jeggings ugly. Oh, OK. So this is my journey. My OK. So I've done similar searches like this is it because you're in the jegging market and you just want to make sure that you're not totally
Starting point is 00:09:30 washed by wearing jeggings or are you working on a story about how jeggings are totally washed and nobody's oh thank god it is the latter no i am not in the market for jeggings in 2023 thank you very much that's what i'm saying i didn't that's why's why. Yeah, that's why I was. Yeah, yeah. I'm in the same place. I wasn't checking that because I don't because I know they are bad and washed. OK. Yeah. Yeah. We're all on the same page about the jeggings.
Starting point is 00:09:55 No, but so this was actually for an episode of Past Perfect. OK. So for those who don't know, it's a time traveling trivia show. And last week we put out an episode all about the 2010s. And I needed some visual references for jeggings. And I feel like the reason why there is this multiple searches is because, okay, conspiracy theory potentially. But I feel like there is an effort to erase how truly horrifying jeggings were as a trend. Because when you Google image search, it's all very tame. It's all the classy jeggings
Starting point is 00:10:34 and it's none of the real stuff. Right. Oh, okay. So keep your eye open for that because something might be afoot. Did you ever wear jeggings, full disclosure? Full disclosure, I did wear jeggings. And maybe that's why I feel like I have a deep wound in my heart. Because I did go out in public a lot in jeggings. We do have to let the children know that, okay, when jeggings came around, your only options were very uncomfortable jeans. They were stiff. They were too tight.
Starting point is 00:11:04 They're awful. And then they were like, what if you had a soft comfortable jean and that is why we went full tilt into the jeggings as a culture for a moment uh and then we had to review photos of ourselves later we were like we have respect we have respect as a ignorant cis head man are jeggings described as just leggings merely with the denim graphic printed upon the fabric or are we talking about those like super elastic jeans too were those jeggings i'm talking about like yeah essentially leggings fabric with a photograph of jeans like overweight on top yeah terrible photoshop now are there really elastic jeans out because i need those with my thick thighs so they just those technology what you're gonna want to do is head over to
Starting point is 00:11:51 good american i'm sorry to support a kardashian but chloe kardashian found a business that works and she's sticking to it and it's real good uh they have jeans i think there's like what six sizes in a single jean there's so much stretch oh wow which is crazy okay and they are apparently really really i'm sorry what is the name of the company good american that is the worst fucking name i've ever i will never buy anything i'm sorry i will never buy anything that says good i thought it was a mega thing when i first heard about it i was like what's happening over here and they were like no it's, it's Khloe Kardashian's jean company. And I was like, okay. It does kind of sound like Republican jeans.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah. Like, wow. Okay. they're, they don't look good, not bad. Where's,
Starting point is 00:12:35 I'll wear bad American jeans. Ooh, okay. Oh, okay, spicy. I like the sound of that. But then also,
Starting point is 00:12:41 that also sounds like from the perspective of someone like abroad who's like, another bad American has shown up. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm merely just from this sordid place. I don't carry all of its fucked up values. But yeah, jeggings for the record, I guess they're out.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So I will no longer purchase them for the record. OK, good to know. Simone, what is something you think is overrated oh okay i wonder if this will be controversial but go ahead go ahead baths baths i think they're overrated okay all right i need the details what is overrated about them walk me through this walk all wow there's a number of lists first of all so you have to do a chore before you even get started with the activity you want me to relax but preceded by labor like i'm already out you know what i mean i need to clean the tub i need to clear whatever's in there i need to get everything you know because i'm you know i'm about to be sitting in a yeah yeah you? I need to clean the tub. I need to clear whatever's in there. I need to get everything, you know, because I'm, you know, I'm about to be sitting in a hot bin of water. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:49 You don't want to be in a bacteria pool. Yeah, exactly. I get that. So that's already, that's a high barrier. Okay. First of all. Okay. Second of all.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Temperature control. Way too variable. I'm too hot. I'm too cold. I'm comfortable for like maybe 30 seconds of the whole experience right okay okay okay next and this is a big one for me oh shit okay okay i'm putting my butt on wet ceramic that is a sensory nightmare i don't enjoy the feeling of that but but you think at that point right the ambient temperature of the like it all kind
Starting point is 00:14:27 of equalizes right like it's you're saying it just or just wet ceramic just no i'm for you yeah it's not for me i it just makes me think of damp and dank and it's it's not a it's not a comforting experience for my body okay how about i'll put it that way i never thought honestly i never thought about the feeling of what it's like for your butt to be in a bathtub but now you've you've given me a new way to a new perspective i do thank you for that yeah oh my my pleasure yeah and then my final point if you do somehow get the slightest hint of texture a grain of sand a hair something that again like that'll send me over the edge i'm like no immediately like what the hell is in this tub with me yeah having you have bubbles and i'm pushing them around like what else is in here i'm horrified it's yeah you
Starting point is 00:15:18 get it you get it it's a horror show i do the bathtub stew has been uh confusing my mother is like a huge bath person she loves the bath like i get the sea salts and the bath bombs and all this stuff and she's like it's just so relaxing it's like a day at the spa it's like i've been to the spa and it's not all like that at the spa they do all of the work at the spa the tub is a reasonable height i don't know if you've ever been in one of those tubs where they're like okay so now you're gonna like with your whole body wet and slick, hop out onto a tile floor. Don't die, hopefully. That's not at all a relaxing situation.
Starting point is 00:15:48 We have hip issues. This is dangerous. And then on top of all of that, then, you know, when you're done with your bath and you've drained the tub, there's always going to be some kind of residue. So I just stay behind and like shower the tub down to like try to make it somewhat halfway decent. Baths are a lot extra. Buy a hot tub. Oh, process. OK, hot tub. i can get behind and they
Starting point is 00:16:07 seem like they're closely related but i think they're you're right they're totally different experiences totally different okay i yeah um i know producer victor said he he's riding with this take i'm i'm pro bath you know that's i think a cultural thing i'm half japanese we love the bath we're it's all about bath culture they're but there's a cultural thing i'm half japanese we love the bath where it's all about bath culture the re but there's a difference right when you get in a bath in japan you clean your you clean your ass and everything before you get in your tub you go you enter like the tub is something you enter clean so a lot of the times but most american bathrooms are not set up like a japanese or asian style bathroom where it's like your shower is kind of and like you would basically sit on a little stool and kind
Starting point is 00:16:48 of just like wash yourself down make sure you clean get all your dead skin off then go in the tub and enjoy it because that is it's very relaxing it helps me go to sleep like if i'm if i'm having trouble sleeping a nice bath before does the trick but i get it for those of us who have sensitive butts um that's it's not it maybe isn't the best way to go i'm gonna go on and let me say you're a very very sensitive person like in general right like you you the way you are pointing out different textures and things i'm like this person their senses are firing on all cylinders you know i i have been maybe called particular at previous times in my life. You may be picking up on something.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Do you have any other weird? Okay, so because I'm sorry, the thing about my butt being on wet ceramic, I can't let that go. It's so specific. Do you have any other specific things that are sort of similar in that vein where you would be like oh i don't do that yeah well i find i'm realizing like it's something having to do with like when my body touches surfaces i have a hard time being barefoot a lot of places oh like i get really in my head about like what's going on what am i coming in contact with but like being in like sand or mud or like in nature like that's fine but like oh my feet on tile i don't maybe it's something with bathrooms i have a difficult relationship with bathrooms i think i'm learning as i'm talking right now horrifying places bathrooms
Starting point is 00:18:20 oh yeah yeah it's always not that's always weird stuff happening there you know i may say so myself um okay let's go to something a little bit different what do you think is something that is underrated oh okay something that i think is underrated is listening to classical music at the gym and this is something i only started doing kind of recently. And it's been a huge game changer. It's like, it's really meditative and energizing at the same time. Beethoven's Fifth goes especially hard. Wow. If anyone's interested in starting somewhere.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I mean, that's basically EDM of house music. Kind of. Yeah. That's, yeah. Yeah. It's a very, like. That's Beethoven's Fifth, right? fifth right excuse me yes it is yeah it's a very arousing and i mean that in the just it's a very yeah okay stimulating like it's a no
Starting point is 00:19:16 yeah no we're you know yeah yeah yeah and like to the point where i was like like i didn't i don't i didn't know too much about beethoven's history and i was like this guy must have been like the guy of his day right like he's probably doing he's like the usher in vegas you know what i mean of his time so i looked it up and uh that is not the case turns out it was It was like the exact opposite. And he was actually a very romantic and lovesick person who like didn't consummate his love with the many women that he fell in love with. Which is interesting that you created this. A romantic king. Okay. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I mean, are we claiming him? You know, because the other rumor is that Beethoven was black. Okay, I have seen this. Have you seen the rumor? The internet rumor is hilarious. They're like, look at this. He might be light-skinned. I'm like, okay, sure, maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:18 It's like a very interesting internet thing. It was like, Beethoven was black. Oh, wow. Sure, I guess. guess i mean i love a black ludwig but yeah i'm down for that what about um okay so you got beethoven bumping through the headphones is it like is that like good for just in general it just puts you in a good place to focus because for me whenever i've listened to music I kind of need it to be like a motor that drives my limbs to keep going it's usually in the context of like running but again that's
Starting point is 00:20:50 my very narrow experience with it I think it has that vibe you know what it is too it's the the absence of lyrics I think help you focus too and you really are kind of like focusing on the rhythm and the tempo and and you know the various instruments coming together and it could propel you to like you know lift or run or whatever i find that it like yeah it's effective like just keeping you motivated and kind of tuned into your body also got you what other classics are you spinning if someone if you're putting together a workout playlist who else is showing up classical workout i really like a tchaikovsky yes you like so you like the aggressive one yeah yeah you know it's gotta be good music still divorce ox new world symphony you're like oh
Starting point is 00:21:35 you're fucking with divorce too okay you really those are bangers yeah you know yeah some vivaldi yes love vivaldi love those loveivaldi. Love the Four Seasons. You know what I mean? I might recommend Maurice Ravel's Bolero as a good warm-up track. Yo, some of my classical music nerds out here. I used to play in a youth orchestra, so I was all about the classical music back in the day. I love it. Okay, but you said lyrics distract you so who's the artist you can't listen to or else
Starting point is 00:22:08 you're gonna just be just completely singing along or completely distracted by the lyrics that's a great question okay okay i'll just reveal it i'm just gonna say it so i've gotten really into also the venga boys going back to that like 90s, early 2000s, like, you know, electro, whatever. Yeah. It's so hard not to sing along and be like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I want you in my room. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So wait, that doesn't mean we're like Venga. I'm sorry. I'm a Venga. I'm a Venga head. Yeah. Okay, good. I'm in withenga. I'm a Venga head. Yeah. That doesn't mean right back to my youth. I'm with my kindred spirits. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Where are they from? They were like from all over, weren't they? Are they really Dutch or something? I feel like that was that. They must be European. I think Dutch. Yeah. Well, because of the era when like every, like nobody was from America back then.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Like all that electronic music was either coming from like Sweden or Germany or, or you know euro dance group um like dutch okay they're dutch okay well sylvan d-pin and dennis vander dryson they're very dutch all right hop holland yeah wait what was that last thing you said i said hoot so i did live in live in Holland for a little bit and I don't speak that much Dutch. You see my Dutch? Hey, I'm out here. Yeah, there we go. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:23:36 That's it. That's all I got to offer this one. Okay. Let's take a quick break and just figure out what's going on with Joe. Going on with Joe Brandon's. Now Joe Brandon's wall, I guess we will figure that out when we come back after this. I'm Jess Casavetto,
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Starting point is 00:27:03 And we're back. And we just found out simone bit of a bit of a dutch passport holder just a bit you know like love to see it love to see it it's an international show at the end of the day but speaking of foreign relations uh we should talk about our president our president, our president, Joe Biden. So we just found out that the Biden administration will be continuing to build around 20 miles of border wall in Texas, quote, in an effort to stop rising levels of immigration. And, you know, this is this is using the funding that was secured by the Trump administration. So that's a bit of like the defense right now from the like from Biden is like, I mean, this was all these funds were already appropriated. So, you know, I mean, I tried to do something, but also I need I also need to be painted as someone that's tough on immigration. So I'm just going to go ahead and let this thing happen. And also
Starting point is 00:27:58 like using the presidential powers and homeland security powers to waive federal laws that otherwise would have prohibited the project, including the Clean Air Act and Safe Drinking Water Act. A lot of environmentalists are talking about like, again, even since the beginning of the construction, they're like, you can't just put an impermeable barrier in the middle of an ecosystem like it fucks things up. But that's where we are. And it's all kind of odd, because if you remember at the very beginning of the presidency, he said there would be, quote, not another foot of border wall built if he was elected. He was elected. And then his administration proclaimed, like I think on like week one, that the border wall, quote, is not a serious policy solution, which is true. Just to build a wall and your, you know,ophobia-like statue, not the best way to, I think, figure out how to deal with immigration. In response to that, now Trump is doing a fucking
Starting point is 00:28:52 victory lap. And he's saying like, will Joe Biden apologize to me and America for taking so long to get moving and allowing our country to be flooded with 15 million, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He said, I will await his apologies. Okay. I don't, I don't think they are coming, but the thing is, if we look closer, Biden actually never stopped building the border wall. And, you know, in 2022, he authorized the border patrol to close gaps in the wall in Arizona. This was supposedly done under the rationale of like, this is for safety reasons because a child tragically like drowned trying to get into the country. But many experts have said this is not like the logic is is fucking absurd here.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Like, that's what you're going to do. This is like a man named Miles Trafagan said that basically, quote, people have traveled halfway around the globe on planes, trains and automobiles. So to expect that closing four small gaps is going to make them turn around and book a return flight is sheer fallacy. And that's kind of sort of where we are at. And many people I think there's a lot of a lot of fingers being pointed. Is this because he has an eye on the election and doesn't want to give the Republicans or more conservative Democrats ammo to say, like, he's not treating this thing seriously. But many people have said that money would have been better spent in many other places rather than just continuing to build the wall. So yeah. 6,000 frustrations. The argument that like, oh, if I don't seem tough, then they'll be mad or say
Starting point is 00:30:22 stuff. I can say stuff anyway. It doesn't matter. This will not help you at all. Yeah, you're not gonna win them all yeah no this isn't uh supportive it literally does nothing for you also the excuse of the the money's already spent tell people to keep the money and stop building the wall what does it matter like if the money's already out there and you have already mentioned that it's a policy that doesn't work i don't understand being like well we paid them so they have to do it just move forward if yeah it feels like a thing where like republicans like if the shoe were on the other foot they'd be like we're not using that money to like do woke shit sorry we'll just completely go around those kinds of regulations i mean the way it was though to i i mean his credit he was saying before when there was an appropriations bill where that money
Starting point is 00:31:05 where Congress could have actually redirected, it was like, y'all should redirect it. But the Republicans are in control. So that shit wasn't happening. But I feel like there may have been other opportunities to do this. So it, again, it feels very politicky, but also giving people who are like, who have like strong feelings about immigration and like amnesty and you know having humane immigration policies just it's a bit of a kick in the face when you you know you ride in being like not another fucking foot except for these next couple miles that we got to build to really tighten this thing up because also i mean let's be real like biden was never someone who was super in on like really flexible immigration so it all kind of fits hand in hand but a shock to
Starting point is 00:31:47 many people on the internet like he's still building it it's like well there's an election it's see that's the interesting part you know i'm not a political analyst or anything but i'm like it to me it seems like your eye on things well you know yeah to me it seems like it's going to alienate more people than it is actually going to like you know i don't know attract anyone to his side yeah and it's like so i don't know so i i understand that maybe they see it as a political strategy to like you know loop in a new sector of voters but i don't know it just seems really um right he's shooting himself in the foot. When you like,
Starting point is 00:32:26 look at like the math of the electorate, you got to know anyone who's savvy is like, you're not winning over MAGA people ever. Like it's just not happening. So why, why worry about their screams and flapping about, about it? Like,
Starting point is 00:32:40 it doesn't make sense when there are a lot of people who were interested in like, because like, like, you know, there's so many ways to address this like one is to address the factors there are forces that are pushing people out of their countries to begin with and you know a lot of the time for all the talk that people say like oh like what's going on in south america it's like well american foreign policy happened to south america in the 70s and 80s like that's that's a huge that's a huge contributing factor that they turn a blind eye to or not figuring out ways to stabilize situations in other places. So I think it's just a it's just a weird one, like to your point, where more people are going to be like, why? Like, why do all this shit? like here in California, there is probably like one of the most sort of famous sort of border
Starting point is 00:33:26 crossing areas, which is like known as like, you know, Friendship Park. That's right here, like the San Diego border crossing. And right now, the administration is basically going to fully like make this thing completely like just completely do away with the old fence that was there for something a little bit more hostile to people. And many people are arguing that was sort of kind of like a monument to the bond between U.S. and Mexico because family members from other sides could meet each other there, even though they couldn't physically be on the same side. They could still reach through and touch each other, etc.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And to now be like, we need to tighten that thing up and also get rid of the park that's on the U S side. It's just feels like extra to, for the sake of doing it. And I think to your point, like a lot of people would look at that and be like, that's not what we're looking for, or even what we believe is going to help us be safer or quote unquote, more humane or whatever the deal is here. So it's also insane to use the death of a child as an excuse to be like, now we have to because a child how many children have passed trying to make this journey at different right in the journey like it's a really difficult especially coming from beyond central america you know go through an entire forest across the river like through several countries like it's not simple there's obviously a reason people are trying to get here in the first place.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And to your earlier point, Miles, I just don't understand why we don't spend money trying to find a more permanent solution to help these folks, as opposed to being like build a wall that we already know definitely doesn't work. I mean, this is something we've talked about a lot is, you know, if, if, if the solution doesn't, isn't a money making operation, it's not going to be pursued. You know, like capitalism. Yeah. Like we can hire more
Starting point is 00:35:11 engineering companies to dig up walls and build new wall or have more privatized, you know, prisons basically for children that are seeking to enter the country for whatever reason. And so those are things that can actually keep money going, uh, rather than sort of like the more humane things where like, well, why would like, even in our own country, we're like, why, why can't we just have better health care? That's like less expensive. It's like, well, then people start making less money on it. They got a lot of lobbying efforts behind it. It's, it's a whole thing so yeah it is it is uh really frustrating especially when again like the rationale there is so backwards it's like oh
Starting point is 00:35:51 how terrible so that just means we got to build more wall that's the problem but we shall see um looking at the other side of the aisle i'm sorry to have to bring up the fucking Speaker of the House controversy again, but shit is getting weird and salacious now. So Matt Gates basically acted as a one-man wrecking crew to destroy the already destroyed
Starting point is 00:36:17 former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who, as we all know, is a vile character that, as I said earlier this week, is lower than snake nipples. So he didn't deserve to be saved from his position. The GOP is in fucking disarray even more than usual somehow. And many of like the rank and file members are so pissed at Matt Gaetz. And they just like they're like, just it doesn't make sense that one guy could derail everything for the entire party.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I'm like, I'm sorry. What about Trump? What? Okay. I thought you guys were in love with one man wrecking crews. The beginnings of maybe a plot to oust Matt Gaetz from the House, because there were a lot of soundbites on the heels of McCarthy's ouster. That was stuff like people saying, like, Matt Gaetz, like, he's not one of us. Like, that's not what we were supposed to do. We need unity.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That was like beyond the pale or, you know, like he shouldn't be associated with this party. He needs to be an independent. be associated with this party he needs to be an independent a detail actually from the session of congress there when like they took the vote on getting mccarthy out was that matt gates actually spoke on the left side of the chamber the minority side of the chamber the democrat side of the chamber because the republicans were like can't sit here they basically just were like you go do your thing over there they're not with him it was for him? They're like, you can't sit with us. It was Forrest Gump on the bus. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Seats taken. That's all it was. You cannot be here. So, like, you could kind of already see them beginning to turn their back on him or whatever they thought they were doing. And so now, like, we're starting to see, like, just weird comments come out of the right. So I just want to put our attention, unfortunately, on Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who had this really weird thing to say to Manu Raju on CNN about, like, like why this guy is kind of a bad guy. Here's here's why he thinks you know matt gates bad i'm scared yeah it's it's something you gotta think about this guy um this is a guy that didn't have that
Starting point is 00:38:33 the media didn't give a time of day to after he was accused of sleeping with an underage girl there's a reason why no one and the conference came also i'm sorry your own party didn't do anything about it when i found that out or the allegations came out or found out that he was under investigation. But anyway, go off, go off, King. Because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the house floor that all of us had walked away of the girls that he had slept with. He'd brag about how he would crush ED medicine and chase it with an energy drink so he could go all night. This is obviously before he got married. And so when that accusation came out, no one defended him. And then no one on the media would give him a time of the day. All of a sudden, he found fame because he opposed
Starting point is 00:39:14 the Speaker of the House back in November. And he's always stayed there. And he was never going to leave until he got this last moment of fame by going after her. All right, that's enough. This man is confused about what's happening in the streets. The kids were really excited when he posed as speaker, and now he's all kinds of famous. Yeah. I mean, wow. Crushing ED pills, chasing it with energy drinks to go at it all night.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Obviously before he was married. Marriage absolves all of that. And you would definitely stop once the ring was on it. But it's funny. But it is true, Senator. We did hear about these lewd images that he was sharing with people. And people were like, what the fuck's wrong with him? How did you help?
Starting point is 00:40:01 There were even reports of how this dude had like empty boxes of condoms like at the top of his trash can and people like yo what the fuck is going on with this dude um so this doesn't seem too far off especially when you remember a former congressperson madison cawthorne from north carolina if like last year he said this thing was like you know the congress is just really weird he's like i've been invited to like orgies at houses and like people are doing cocaine and if you recall that was the beginning of the end for him when he said that when he mentioned that there was like orgies and cocaine use and they basically vaporized his shit like instantly the party like they had his ass out on a like they ran him out on a rail real quick so who knows where this leads for matt gates but like all we do know is that like this dysfunction in the house
Starting point is 00:40:50 especially without having a speaker and like having the business of congress sort of grind to a halt is exactly the kind of shit that steve bannon and these other hyper right-wing like ghouls pray for because it's all you know it's all part of the acceleration of like ending the the like the the state uh the federal government to usher in like a more dysfunctional era of you know total privatization so you know there's a lot there's a lot going on there but yeah i'm not sure what exact why mark wayne moan was wanting to talk about it. He's like, ED pill. I don't know. And to think that he presenting this information as like,
Starting point is 00:41:31 if you thought being with underage girls was bad, this guy can't even get hard without help. Yeah. Is that the escalation? I'm not even sure what he's supposed to say. Is he saying, oh, this man has ED?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Or this guy is a sex monster or something. I think he was just playing the SEO game. He was like, people probably don't remember. If I mention it now, maybe we can increase some Google searches on Matt's history. Then it's back in the zeitgeist and i can you know work with that as we try to oust him right it is strange to me the way republicans there's just such a this idea of like now you've you've betrayed the party and so now we have to everything we can to get you out and it's like you should have wanted this guy out forever. Like he has been such a bad like player for your size,
Starting point is 00:42:27 not helped you in any way, shape or form. It's strange that like it's now and now, but also I'm a little bit, like I would love to just never hear from Matt Gates again. It'd be really great. So I feel I'm, I'm torn. I'm a little bit excited and a little bit perplexed. I mean, fun fact about him. He grew up in the house from the Truman show.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Shut up. What? His parents own that house from The Truman Show. There are so many details to his story that I'm having a hard time reconciling. Yeah. I'm sorry that I had to. Whenever I hear that, I'm like, what? It's like, yeah, that house with the exteriors from The Truman Show, that's Matt Gaetz's childhood home.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I don't know what that means, but I feel like it means something. I wonder, it feels like a thing where when he saw the movie, he was like, oh shit, what if that's me? What if I'm Truman? What if everything's for me? And I can do no wrong. Like, I mean, a lot of people have that sort of main character complex. So who knows? Who knows? Who knows? But anyway, this is what is going on right now uh while there are real serious issues to talk about in
Starting point is 00:43:33 this country like cost of living housing crisis uh the unhoused but but matt gates is taking boner pills um and that's gonna take up all the oxygen right now all right let's take another break and we'll be back to talk about something sweet literally after this i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7m films and shekinah church and we're the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will
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Starting point is 00:47:23 aka the true geographic measure of america's soul as our writer jan mcnabb points out some states haven't changed much okay montana they still love twix left twix or right twix i don't know but they still love twix michigan all about the starbursts illinois always about sour patch kids uh you're from illinois joelle yeah can you corroborate is sour patch kids are you what's your feeling towards the children loved the gummies i'm not a gummy kid because it feels weird on my teeth i i can't do it but i remember swedish fish being so huge when i was a kid they love the sour patches sour like when i played softball this is a sour thing on the stick or just sugar but it's kind of soury oh man was it fun dip oh fun yes yes we
Starting point is 00:48:14 just took like that like chalky tablet and dipped it in that i'm sorry like what were some of those candies about back then how to get more sugar into you faster. I know, but they were really like, take this piece of school chalk and dip it in this like high fructose corn syrup powder and you're good. Kids love an interactive piece of candy. Okay. The ring pops were huge. Love a ring pop. What was the bubble tape that you could like?
Starting point is 00:48:41 Oh, yeah. Bubba Bubba tape. Yeah. Something like that where you could eat like 16 feet of gum and then like choke yourself was like i remember almost choking so bad my mom never let me buy it buy it again because i put like a tennis ball size of gum in my mouth same with big league chew that was meant to look like chewing tobacco but anyway that's where we're at so okay we found earlier, Simone, when you're not in Europe or was hanging out in Holland, you were spending some time in California. Our state candy, they say it's always been Skittles.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And I can't, I'm like, fine. I feel like everyone hands out Skittles, but that's the one like I eat at the end. Like when I ran out of all the chocolate stuff. Because that's, I'm chocolate all day. That's the only thing that registers to my brain. What are you feeling on Skittles? For the record. Fine, I guess.
Starting point is 00:49:31 But it is a little disappointing to be represented by Skittles. I was hoping for a chocolate-based candy as well. Okay, so now I'm starting to see a Skittles logo in Oklahoma. Maybe it means ours is M&M's? Oh. Now M&M's make sense Skittles logo in Oklahoma. Maybe it means ours is M&M's. Oh, now M&M's make sense. Oh, that's sadder somehow, even though it is chocolate.
Starting point is 00:49:50 M&M's are delicious. Oh, the plain ones are, okay, I hear what you're saying. Have you ever had a, you ever do that thing when you're a kid and you find your old Halloween candy from like four years earlier? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:01 Did y'all ever have like, okay, so full disclosure, I had like a lego case that i was stashed on my candy and because my mom or my parents were like come up off of that no you're not getting all of the copper so i had it like in a like a cayman islands account basically in the back of my closet and i remember almost breaking my teeth and like on on like old m&ms and it was the most like fucked up experience of my childhood i remember like and when i looked inside it was all dusty in your mouth no they were
Starting point is 00:50:31 not they were melting my teeth oh no anyway that's that's neither here nor there we have to talk about states we're seeing some some changes okay in the overall list of most popular halloween candies m&ms are hot on the heels of the number one rated reese's cups i'm with this you know why reese's changed their chocolate it's not as tasty it isn't no if you eat a reese's now like the chocolate has like almost um a pulley texture to it which is not totally good what's that like i mean it's literally like instead of being melty it feels more like taffy almost it's not that thick but it it doesn't the texture is wrong the only way i can see i think it's probably because they're using more corn syrup as opposed to like sugar. But if you get a Reese's like in Europe, it's a completely different experience.
Starting point is 00:51:28 They're so delicious. What? It's so good. I had no idea. I'm sorry. The government needs to step in because they should be announcing this over a FEMA broadcast if they are changing the fucking chocolate in a Reese's peanut butter cup. I'm trying to think of the last time I had one.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I mean, I had, I had like the big cup that had potato chips in it recently. Okay. And maybe I was just distracted by all the fucking potato chips in it that I didn't realize that the chocolate formula had changed. Get a plain, like just a regular Reese's,
Starting point is 00:51:58 not one of the big ones, but just the red and you'll immediately be like, this isn't right. This is, it's not good. As Justin says, it's plasticky. It's not right. American empire is falling.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I know. This is proof. This is, this is all I needed. This is all I needed. Now I'm all in. We are Rome. And it's bread, circuses, fucking affirmations and Starbucks trying to keep our mental health right. So we don't start a revolution. And now you're fucking the rhesus peanut cup oh my god it's terrible other
Starting point is 00:52:29 thing is number three on the list which had a lot of people scratching their heads hot tamales okay unhinged what all right i don't get that one so the okay so what people are saying like because many people are looking at this list and be like, okay, well, here might be the deal with why hot tamales went to the three spot. Is because hot tamales apparently are less available, like, out in the world at your traditional purveyors of candy. So it's basically inspiring more online orders, which is what candystore.com is seeing. Because there's just a subset of people who are like I can't get my hot tamales okay alright are they cinnamon I've never even had one
Starting point is 00:53:10 because they looked violent to me as a child like I'm like I'm not getting red pilled off this shit this is literally a neon red pill shaped candy did you ever chew big red gum yes yeah that's kind of what it tastes like that kind of like spicy cinnamony
Starting point is 00:53:27 yeah like from your tongue yeah it tastes that long-lasting freshness with big red i did not know that jingle oh yeah well i'm a bit older you know just a tad just a tad then i then i let people know but i remember the big red chewing commercials and even the ford logo a slogan that was like have you driven a ford lately you remember that one no okay all right well allow me to show you my jeggings collection later okay really impress you and blow the wheels off of this thing but here's the thing that i cannot abide candy corn at number eight i'm sorry that's that's my that's my always on halloween hot take i just can't do can't do candy corn you throw them
Starting point is 00:54:18 out i don't understand the point of them i don't understand who ever could possibly have a craving for a candy corn i would rather eat styro could possibly have a craving for a candy corn. I would rather eat styrofoam covered in sugar than a candy corn. Wow. Simone, where do you rank on this? Man, I feel not safe coming out with this opinion now, but I like candy corn
Starting point is 00:54:38 actually. That's sick. I actually like sugary wax it turns out. What is the flavor of candy corn? Like vague vanilla with sunscreen? You know what it is? It's like vanilla butter. It's like, have you ever had a popcorn-flavored jelly belly bean?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Oh, no. I hate jelly beans. Okay, well. Candy violence. Candy violence. She's like, I know. Joelle's like, I'm sorry. You will not silence me.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I like shitty candy. Wait, do you also like Necco wafers? Okay, don't insult me. Okay, well, I'm trying to see where the spectrum is here. That's like a different category of thing altogether. Wow, what do you call a Necco? What is a Necco wafer to you? Isn't that like a
Starting point is 00:55:25 cookie no it's like a it's like a like a chalk disc oh those things yeah oh yeah that's like oh those are pretty bad yeah that's like flattened out yeah it's tums with no um like value yeah exactly no like no active ingredients yeah i can't settle my stomach with this shit we're gonna upset my brain yeah wait so you like the flavor of artificial jelly bean popcorn and that's kind of where we're at is yeah it's a weird butter like which i'm not pitching it in a way that's sounding enticing at all it's like waxy sweet butter right you know but yeah yeah yeah like i found a butter and i rolled it in some sugar and took a big old bite out of it sure call out missouri yeah what's happening with missouri and
Starting point is 00:56:21 the almond joy there's no joy in missouri there's no happiness there that you have to revert to Almond Joy. It's your number one candy. Is this also an anti-Almond Joy podcast? Look, here's the thing. I can't do an Almond Joy. I'm not against it. I'm not against it. Like a dry coconut.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Well, it's not even. It's so chock full of like palm oil. You know what I mean? And sometimes I feel like a nut and sometimes I don't. Almond Joy has nuts. Mounds don't. But I fuck with an Almond Joy. Not like I'm not seeking it out, but I'm never mad. Am I disgusting? Am I now
Starting point is 00:56:54 the disgusting one? Can I say something crazy? Please join me in the disgusting world. I would go for an Almond Joy before I went for a Snickers. Whoa! Let's just get it all out on the table. You pop it right in the freezer, eat it an hour later. Well I went for a Snickers. Whoa. Let's just get it all out on the table. You pop it right in the freezer, eat it an hour later. Well, thank you so much, Simone Kalanen, for coming on the show.
Starting point is 00:57:12 It's been great having you. I would ask you where people could find you, but I don't want to upset them more with your musings. Just how you're burning bridges. Over a smile. No, I mean, look, to each their own. Okay, so, okay, where do you rank Butterfingers? What's at the top? Like, let me figure.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I'm trying to find your Maslow's hierarchy of candy needs. So, at the top, I'll bring one that's not even in this infographic here. I love a take five. Like a peanut butter pretzel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Salty sweet. Okay. I've never had it, but it soundszel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Salty sweet. Okay. I've never had it, but it sounds divine.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Oh, it's really good. Take Five's a dog. It's so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's also a Reese's. It's a Reese's product. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Okay, okay. Butterfinger is like pretty close to dead last for me because it's the texture, the teat, like the- It gets stuck. Yeah. I don't like that. I'm the same way. Going back to sensory stuff, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah, it gets stuck in the crevice. I feel like you need a toothpick to eat a Butterfinger. Or like the cavities. I mean like the shape of my teeth, not all the cavities that I have that my dentist keeps telling me I have to get sorted out. But like it gets in there to a point that is very annoying. Okay, so that's dead last.
Starting point is 00:58:25 So take, let's keep it to this. Okay, so Snickers, you got Almond Joy over Snickers. Where's Skittles in relation to Snickers or Almond Joy? Below? Below, below. Because I still preference chocolate.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Okay. Twix? Twix is pretty high. Twix is above Almond Joy. But not quite take five. I think so. Is it above Snickers? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Oh, yeah. Okay. And then what about Milky Way? Bad. I do not enjoy. But better than Butterfinger. Okay. Better than Butterfinger.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Agree. Beneath or below Snickers? Below Snickers. Belowfinger. Okay, better than Butterfinger. Agree. Beneath or below Snickers? Below Snickers. Below Snickers. Okay. What about Three Musketeers? Oh. Isn't...
Starting point is 00:59:14 Is that different from Milky Way? Yeah. It says Nougat. Three Musketeers is chocolate and Nougat. Nougat, period. Nougat feels very vintage. Whereas the Milky Way, I think i think has what caramel in it yeah okay hmm but i'm gonna put that below milky way okay maybe below butterfinger even
Starting point is 00:59:33 well i don't think i fuck with nougat okay what about what about the hershey's mini bar pack mr good bar hershey's dark chocolate uh crackle etc uh nestle crunch although that is a completely different family where do you put okay nestle crunch where do you put nestle crunch nestle crunch i kind of like i'll put it i'll put it around the snickers tier yeah okay okay okay i'm so far so far we're okay i would say. So you know what, Simone, you can stay on the show. I'm back in your good graces. You're back on the show, and I really thank you for that. Joelle, what's at the top of your candy mountain? It used to be Reese's. Now it's peanut M&M's.
Starting point is 01:00:14 They are my favorite candy because they go in popcorn, and that's perfect. You throw a bag of peanut M&M's into a popcorn tin at your movie, and you're good to go. You've got protein and popcorn. It's a balanced meal. Absolutely. Listen, my grandmother used to be like, it's fine if you have strawberry ice cream because now we've had strawberries and dairy. So we're good. This is the kind of people I come from.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I just saw the Association of American Pediatrics just say that that is the most balanced meal that you could give to a child. Tell your children. I'm sorry if your kids are listening. You'll never hear the end of it now. Tell your parents the American Association of Pediatrics. I think I just made that name up, but go ahead. Yeah. They co-signed it.
Starting point is 01:01:00 When I was a kid, I loved Snickers. It was definitely my top. It's the combination of chocolate and nuts but now that i'm an adult oh gosh somebody help me it's like now that i'm an adult i love this now that i'm an adult because you can't afford it when you're a child it's the chocolate that's got like hazelnuts in it and they're like whole hazelnuts and it comes in a square oh oh uh kinder kinder bueno it's like a Kinder Bueno, but not. They sell it at Trader Joe's.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Oh, my God. Wait, were they, it comes like individually wrapped? Yeah, yeah. It's like a candy bar, but in the form of a square. Hold on. The internet will know. I know listeners are fucking screaming at us right now. It's fucking. What is it?
Starting point is 01:01:42 Ritter Sport. Oh, Ritter Sport, yeah. The Ritter Sport whole hazelnut milk chocolate candy bar this is where this is where you're showing your i'm an adult now because we're going now we're going abroad we're going abroad for our fucking chocolates which i mean let's be real like yeah their chocolates are fucking have you ever had a Milka? No, but they look so good. It's like if you can get into the Japanese Kit Kats. That stuff was mind-blowing.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I was like, why are we not doing it here? It's so tasty. Yeah. Did you know, I read something that Japanese candy companies started introducing more candy-flavored candy to help the sale of... Or no, I'm sorry. Coffee-flavored candy to help sales of coffee like to sort of indoctrinate kids with the coffee flavor at a young age so when they grow up they're like guess what i'll fuck with coffee now is that evil or genius yeah baby it's the world we live in
Starting point is 01:02:34 shout out milka if you can get the oreo milka oh my god i love me an oreo I'm look for it. Like they there's, I see them around LA now and I'm guessing Simone, I saw you may have a reaction to Milka. So I think we're back on this. Oh, I'm up. Yeah, we are team.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Okay, good. Good to know. Good to know. Well, let's, let's just wrap this up for somebody who things aren't so sweet for right now.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And that's Drew Barrymore. So, you know, the, the lady who said, I'm just trying to do what I do, which is to heal people by bringing my show back because that's what the people are asking for. We found out that she's coming back to the airwave soon, but without its writers. And not because it's that, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:22 obviously the strike has been resolved because now that the strike is over and the show is coming back, the writers have, quote, declined an offer to return with it. Which makes a lot of sense because she really went out here being like, yeah, I'm gonna do this shit without the writers. And guess who was leading the strike outside your studio or the picket lines outside your studio? Your your own fucking writers do very more. So yeah, this is now like, cause it was really bad.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Look, cause even the writers, they said that they didn't even know what was going on. Like they found out about Drew's decision, like through fucking Twitter, basically. Yikes. So,
Starting point is 01:03:58 you know, communication, communication is key, but right now they are interviewing potential new writers. So we'll see, we'll see what happens there. But right now they are interviewing potential new writers. So we'll see. We'll see what happens there. But I just wanted to wrap, just come back to that story because we were focused on it a lot. I like to see the kind of shit where like, oh, you thought we forgot?
Starting point is 01:04:15 Like they were never going to come back and be like, oh, yeah, you're good, Drew. How have the last few months been? Also think about what a huge sacrifice. They've been out of work for five months. Yeah. think about what a huge sacrifice they've been out of work for five months yeah and now they're turning down a gig that's probably you know drew was like pretty consistently on air not a lot of breaks um i imagine it's pretty good money yeah or at least decent enough to like get your bills and pay most people have run out of savings it is a huge sacrifice for these writers to be like i'm not going back because the disrespect was so large i really hope they're able to find work
Starting point is 01:04:44 soon especially because apparently we're just not going to cover our writers with unemployment, which sucks. It was really frustrating. Yeah. I, I, I hope this is a lesson to drew and the rest of,
Starting point is 01:04:55 I don't know the world. Don't piss off a union, especially not one as well organized and together as a WGA. People who are, who are literally their profession is about communicating. Yes, communicating, organizing and giving great speeches. It's pretty much all writers do. I have no idea
Starting point is 01:05:11 why you would go up against them. Yeah, yeah. You hate to see it. You hate to see it. Y'all, just read the room. You know what I mean? It's a hot labor everything right now. Labor's so in. That's why we always are like imploring the democrats to be like hey try and hook your wagon to this shit called worker rights because guess what a lot
Starting point is 01:05:33 most people you know they're more workers than the fucking people that donate to your campaigns just do some quick back of the napkin math on that one but simple stuff you know shout out to citizens united because corporations are people too all right well simone it has been to be honest up and down and up sky high again this appearance and we're so glad that you joined us uh where can people check you out and i know you have a sub stack like where can people read you all that kind of yes. Yes, I'll give you the full. So you can find me on social media. I'm on Instagram at Simone Polanin. You can listen to my podcasts, Past Perfect, the time-traveling trivia show, and then Not Past It,
Starting point is 01:06:14 which is a This Week in History show on Spotify. And I write a sub stack. I give recommendations for movies, TV, music, all that. It is called Highbrow Lowbrow. Find it at highbrow lowbrow find it at highbrow lowbrow.substack.com dope title simone dope title uh and is there a work of media social media anything like that that you want to shout out that you've been enjoying yes okay i really need people to watch you are so not invited to my bat mitzvah oh yeah on netflix the adam sandler family affair sunny sandler is a star sometimes nepo babies really are incredible and it's for
Starting point is 01:06:56 me it's like it was a perfect beautiful painful emotional moving story of girlhood and coming of age and friendship and it like so exceeded my expectations i had a great time watching it it was like it had like it felt you know how do you see blockers oh yes yeah yeah back like blockers felt like a departure from the usual like teen movie we're like oh they're getting into some interesting shit now and they're doing it in a really funny way that's how i like this felt like the middle school version of that where i was like oh shit like this is fucking like this felt real as somebody who was in middle school at one point but i was like this is fucking really well done i gotta say i was also pleasantly surprised for sure uh joelle thank you so much again for joining me where do the people find you and follow you and
Starting point is 01:07:44 what can you put us on to in the form of media or tweets here we go okay so i'm joe monique you can find me all over the internet at joe monique it's j-o-e-l-l-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e i just filmed my movie dinner this past weekend we're going to be going out to some festivals in 2024 so you can follow me and look for possible screenings i would love to see your face around we're very excited it's gonna be amazing social things you should check out okay there is a woman named marty pants m-a-r-d-i-p-a-n-t-z she transitioned in like 1974 when she was 15 and she is documenting the history of what it was like to transition back then what it's like to be
Starting point is 01:08:23 an elder trans person who lost most of their trans friends she talks to zenials about their current transitioning and what that's like it has been so informative and like we still have a lot of history on like what was it like to be trans pre-1980 and she's doing the lord's work they're getting into a lot of the details which is great also i'm obsessed with the sims uh i've been playing a lot of sims i've been building houses i've been designing multiple families they're all adorable there's more lesbians per capita in my game than there will ever be in the world and i'm just really enjoying being a part of the fandom so if you follow the sims you can see they're doing a Norwegian limited style, or what do they call that?
Starting point is 01:09:07 Mid-century modern? Yeah, like that clean Scandinavian style. You know what's up. So they just added a new pack. So if you're out there and you do The Sims and you build pretty houses and you want to ping me on any of my socials and show them to me, I'd like to look at your dope houses. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:09:22 That was my favorite part about The Sims. I remember playing that shit at my brokest in college. And I was like, this is where I'm going to live. Yep. Yep. Yep. Every day I'm like, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Watch me update this TV with one click. Boom. Boom. Got it. They have an entire, like, Los Angeles, like, Get Famous pack that has, like, an actual valley, a hills, and a downtown area when i tell you i'm like this is my mansion in the hills if i could afford a house in the valley this is what it would look like you could be in the valley in the studios yeah yeah they have three lots in the
Starting point is 01:09:55 valley yeah oh no just when i think i'm out pull me right back in get it Damn That's all I need to hear I'm so So valley centric Anyway yeah Find me at Miles of Grey Wherever they got the ats You can find me on
Starting point is 01:10:12 You know Twitter Formerly X Instagram Threads All that And also check me out On our basketball podcast
Starting point is 01:10:18 Miles and Jack got mad boosties I have a true crime show About the Greek Robin Hood The search for the Greek Robin Hood The man who is Kidnapping millionaires and giving the money away to the folks out there without hurting anybody and trying to do it ethically. It's called The Good Thief. So check that out. And then if you like 90 Day Fiance, like most highbrow consumers of media are like me, check me out on my other podcast for 20 Day Fiance.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I'll let you guess what that shows like. podcast for 20 day fiance i'll let you guess what that shows like um now a tweet i like is from yedoye former guest uh at yedoye underscore tweeted affirmation in brackets i am a hater and i am also correct we need that i love that kind of affirmation. And I am also correct. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We've got a Facebook fan page, website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Footnotes! Thank you, Joel. Where you can find all the articles we talk about, as well as the song we write out on. That song, we are going to ride off into the proverbial sunset of our weekend by this track Uh by this duo called hermanos gutierrez and the track is called cerca de ti which means close to you And it is this they're like they're they're guitar playing. I gotta call it guitar playing because it ain't guitar They're picking some guitar on this and joel
Starting point is 01:11:42 You heard me playing it before we started recording. And I said the same thing. This shit makes me feel like I'm smoking weed on, like, a rainbow-colored horse, riding through the technicolor desert. And it's just, like, great, like, chill background music. You know, have a, you know, coffee, a smoke, a wine, whatever you want to do to it. Okay? Cerca de Ti by Hermanos Gutierrez. That's going to do it for us. We're going to be back
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