The Daily Zeitgeist - Joe Rogan Dumb? ANTIFA Exposed!!! 5.3.21

Episode Date: May 3, 2021

In episode 900, Jack and Miles are joined by the Bechdel Cast's Caitlin Durante to discuss Joe Rogan's backing off his vaccine claims, how tech giants got richer during the pandemic, a Matt Gaetz upda...te, what it's like to infiltrate Antifa, the new movie going experience, and more!FOOTNOTES: 'I Am a Fucking Moron' Says Joe Rogan, As If the Rest of Us Didn't Already Know That Tech Giants’ Obscene Pandemic Profits Are Begging to Be Taxed Bombshell Letter: Gaetz Paid for Sex With Minor, Wingman Says Well, This Trump Supporter's Infiltration Of An 'Antifa' Group Is Just Very Believable Iconic Events Envisions A Future For Theaters That’s More Than Just Movies LISTEN: Yasuke Opening Theme | Black Gold - Flying Lotus/Thundercat  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 It is Monday, May 3rd, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I, I'm a one man podcast. I'm the one that drinks the dew, then follows miles back home. I, I'm some pale skin shining. I'm, I'm my wild thighs blind and bright, burning off and on. It's thighs like these you learn to live again. It's thighs like these you give and give again.
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Starting point is 00:04:03 much to Andrewrew bub on discord for the spin doctors you know thanks bub hey thanks there bub we are thrilled fortunate uh elated to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant the talented the hilarious caitlin Hilarious. Caitlin Durante! Hi, guess who's got another anagram for you? I thought surely we could have hit the bottom, but no. For new listeners, every time Caitlin's on, we get a new anagram of the letters in her name. Nine Tit Dracula is one of the greats. Latin Dancer UTI.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Latin Dancer UTI. What do you got? What are we at? I wrote this this this very morning so this is fresh this is new thank you thank you caitlin dorante anagrams to ireland cat unit hey so you know when there's like a, I don't even know what this would be, actually. It's a weird ICU. So, you know, when you got the. Oh, yeah, it is ICU. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I feel like it would be like if there's some organization or some, maybe like a police force boo. Right. But there was a particular unit in Ireland made up of entirely of cats. Right. That's what I picture. Ireland cat unit. I mean, that's definitely a like there is some alternate reality Disney movie where that exists, like Cat Detective or some shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah. Or it's like it's something to do with the regulation of like this mutant breed of cats it's like yo we need to call cat unit this is a job for cat for ireland cat unit what is the ireland cat would that be the orange like a orange cat what we what do we think what is ireland's cat huh let's see the official cat of ireland um Doesn't seem to... I think we're on new ground here. Yeah. No, the first thing is like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:06:09 cats for sale in Ireland? The Carrie Blue Terrier. Okay. I think, but that's a dog. That's a dog, Miles. Yeah. Okay, never mind. Manx cat, there it is.
Starting point is 00:06:21 This episode, I was saying before we started recording, bad brain morning for me. Just foggy for no real reason. So just forewarning to everybody. I'm going to be all over the place. Or nowhere. Set the table for everyone. So just get ready, everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:40 All right. This is going to be the brain. Cool. All right. Well, Caitlin,lin we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today uh jerogen is dumb uh we'll talk about that we'll talk about the pandemic profits that are rolling in where we're starting to get evidence of just just how rich people got during this pandemic uh we'll talk about the uh great undercover work of the guy who infiltrated
Starting point is 00:07:12 antifa we'll talk about matt gets has nowhere to run uh we'll talk about the future movie theaters and all of that plenty more but first c Caitlin, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, I just Googled, are Americans allowed to travel to the UK right now? Because I've sort of lost track of what the travel restrictions are. Because my friend in England is getting married in,
Starting point is 00:07:49 or I mean tentatively. I mean, I'm sure their marriage will still happen, but a wedding may or may not be happening because of the pandemic in November. And I've been invited not to brag or anything. Wow, ladies and gentlemen, and everybody. As far as I'm concerned, that makes you a royal. Being invited to a wedding in the UK.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah. You are officially a royal. And even though I was kind of joking, those are angry claps I was giving you right now. I'm like, I've never been invited to an English wedding. Yeah. You look like Rock at the end of Rudy when he's clapping. So I'd like to be able to go, but I don't know how safe it will be. So I was just doing some investigating. I didn't try very hard to find the answer.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Great. So I still don't really know. And was i was like oh right there's this pretty uh significant the the the uk variant of covid which i was like oh yeah that's that is a thing so i still don't know if i will be traveling to england for this wedding. But I did try to figure out if I could. And I was inconclusive. Because isn't B117, that's the UK one. That's the one that's in California too, I believe. Also.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I know they've talked about those variants. If you got the vaccination, you should be okay. Do we know if they let people in though? That's the other thing. Who knows? I know there's been big talk because, like, I think a lot of the people of Europe are like, don't allow these fucking people in right now. Like, did you see what they did?
Starting point is 00:09:36 See how they handled their shit? But I know, like, fucking tourism is just a huge, you know, factor to so many economies. I'm not sure where that's at. Right. Yeah. I'm not sure where that's at. Right. Yeah. I still don't know. I know that Hawaii is the tourism boom to Hawaii is so heavy that they're having to rent flatbed trucks to tourists because they're out of rental cars.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Oh, wow. Yeah. I feel like people want to get the fuck off of mainland US any way they can. They're having to bring in a ton of just rental cars? Like, there's the demand you're saying? Yeah, like people are renting U-Haul trucks. Oh, you're saying that it's resorted to, well, what you got to like this moving pallet truck?
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, great, great, great, great. Forklift? Sure. Just I need to get home. Does it fit three child seats in it? No, it's really for, it's actually can't be driven off of a commercial property. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah. We'll take that. Yeah. But there's going to be a, there's going to be a big travel boom probably coming. What is, the only UK wedding I've ever seen is the the royal wedding have you guys seen like i'm assuming they're similar to other weddings they're not like all that fancy uh no just weddings in the uk uh i'm assuming they're not all that nice, right? Yeah, they probably suck. No, I think, yeah, I imagine it's pretty similar to your kind of standard American wedding.
Starting point is 00:11:13 But if I go, I'll take some pictures. I'll report back. Wonderful. Yeah. Let us know. Are you going to wear a fascinator? Do you have to wear a fascinator? That's what, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Is the fascinator part of anything? That weird, you know, them sh going to wear a fascinator? Do you have to wear a fascinator? That's what, yeah. Like, is the fascinator part of. That like weird that, you know, them shits they wear to the wedding. It's like not a hat and it's not a hair clip. It's the brolic one in between the two. Yeah. It's like a doll hat sized hat that they like put on one side of their head. With the feathers and plumage and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:41 A fascinator. I, maybe. I was planning on wearing you know how like barristers or whatever like wear those wigs when they go to court oh white wig yeah i was gonna wear one of those hell yeah sick you just read the room all wrong like what caitlin this is really i don't know what you thought this was my grandfather was a famous barrister who recently passed away and if this is a tribute tribute, it's really a misstep. Fascinator might be the most overnamed.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Like the name is real aggressive for what it is. Yeah. Because it took me a long time to realize what people were talking about. Because I watch a lot of UK shit, so I hear the word. But it wasn't until I started getting context and I was like, wait, what the? That's a fascinator? Yeah. It's not that interesting it's good marketing though you know yeah i feel like that would be a good name for like either a superhero or like a pro wrestler right yeah exactly yeah the intellectual uh pro wrestler who just who has really a cool fact
Starting point is 00:12:45 that he pops out. Like if Alex Schmidt was a pro wrestler. The Fast Alex, the Fascinator Schmidt. Wait, so I'm just wondering the derivation of that. Assuming
Starting point is 00:13:01 it wasn't some 1940s marketing firm that was just like no no it's you know because that shit's been around all so many depictions of like the monarchy you know Marie Antoinette had you know those rocking fascinators and shit is it because they're fastened to your head and they were just
Starting point is 00:13:18 no it's from the word fascinate damn yeah somebody was just very interested in those tiny hats stuck to the side of people's heads. What is something you think is overrated, Caitlin? Well, speaking of tourism and going to places with beaches, I think going to the beach is overrated. Yeah. There, I said it.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Wait, why? Damn. Because of what? Burns. I just There I said it. Wait, why? Because of what? Burn. I just, I don't know. It's hot. It's sandy. You get sand everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:57 There's like nothing fun to do. The water's always cold. I always like, even if it's not cold, the salt water is, like, irritating to my skin. You sound like someone who's going down a list of things to pivot to. Like, when you're like, come on, let's go to the beach. You're like, ah, it's sandy. It's like, no, this part is really nice. Yeah, but the water is cold. No, the water is actually really great.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah, but then once you're in, it's like the salt. You don't want to go. It's funny. You don't want to go. Bad for me. Sharks, maybe. Sharks? There's seaweed. You might get bit by a crab there's just you know those
Starting point is 00:14:28 ferocious teeth i just yeah i've never had like a great time at the beach i've had i hate to hear that i mean maybe i don't know maybe i'm just going with the wrong people maybe we're bringing the wrong things i don't know i just don't enjoy myself at the beach yeah well that's you know i think i definitely don't go to the beach as much like locally like if i'm going other parts of california like i'll hit the beach but i've gotten so used to the la beaches i'm like i don't i'm like spoiled from being around this part of the pacific too long it's a terrible thing to say, but that's just how I feel. But it's funny because Her Majesty, whenever we go somewhere, even up the coast remotely, I'm like, yeah, let's go to the beach.
Starting point is 00:15:12 It's like, what the fuck? I'm like, I don't like the beaches near me. I like the concept, though, especially when it's warm. Gwyneth Paltrow just had a quote that I read somewhere. About a beach? Yeah, it was like very, I am always happiest by the sea. Just the exact opposite, which I think is. That's a good indicator, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I'm always happiest by, in, or on the sea. And then she used that to tease her. Oh yeah, her cruise, right? her cruise line baby wait a minute yeah there's a goop cruise stop it it's called like goop at sea or some shit yeah yo this is kind of a biz oh my god you and jamie gotta go on this and just tell us what the fuck it's like a fucked up titanic goop at sea ew i don't okay i'll go on it actually no that sounds like that sounds like you're actually putting her like you're actually putting yourself in harm's way like on paper goop at sea doesn't end well for fucking anyone involved yeah i've always been happiest by on or in the sea
Starting point is 00:16:18 we talked about that one like fucking thing she tried to have in like the uk and everyone's like yo she's scamming us right uh when they had like a goop conference and shit so yeah a sea gwyneth yeah maybe that's a pass what about under the sea like in mermaid is she happy i've always been happiest at the bottom of the sea with the other bottom feeders anyways i i am closer to your uh take on on the sea than gwyneth's uh i think you're i think you're right i thought you're mr ocean city asian city i go i go to ocean city for the boards man i'll go for the beach the fucking spuck that's for the herbs i mean i actually like i i like an atlantic ocean beach better than a pacific ocean beach because the ocean's warm and dirty like me i don't know i just i just feel uh more at home there and like living in la like i every time i go to the beach i feel like i should
Starting point is 00:17:21 be wearing a sweater and like a a knit cap when are y'all going to the beach, I feel like I should be wearing a sweater and a knit cap. When are y'all going to the beach? You know it does get warm. You guys are always describing going to the beach in November or some shit. No. It has to burn off. We get the June gloom and shit, but you got to pick your spots. I've been in August, and the water is still freezing.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. The Pacific Ocean is underrated, like just fucking so much colder than the Atlantic. I didn't realize that until I got out here and started not going to the beach at all. Started my amateur oceanography exploits. What is something you think is underrated, Caitlin? Okay. oceanography. What is something you think is underrated, Caitlin? As per usual, it's a movie, but I think Dora and the Lost City of Gold,
Starting point is 00:18:12 the live-action Dora the Explorer movie that came out in 2019, is so underrated. It's so good. I feel like no one saw it, but it's amazing. It's a romp. It's so funny, and it's a terrific film that i recommend everyone watch damn holy shit okay i'll take that the trailer had a joke that made
Starting point is 00:18:35 me laugh and but then once it came out nobody was like this is actually really funny uh until now because no one bothered to go see it right for me is it because like it's like in a weird audience demographic like because it's relying on some nostalgia from people that are older and it's not quite a kid's film so it's like energizing like a not quite kids dragging their parents to the theater market and like people i think it did fine i don't think yeah yeah but i'm just like like but some films they just get all that attention because it's like explicitly like this is the most underrated fucking kids film man i went to my kid oh man this shit was sick i went
Starting point is 00:19:13 for my kids but it's actually dope or other films that are like intended for adults where this one seems like it's like i definitely don't know exactly who the target demo was, especially cause like I didn't, I had outgrown watching Dora the Explorer. Like by the time I was like, I was too old for that, but it, but because like Dora is a teenager in this movie,
Starting point is 00:19:38 I mean, it's still definitely like a children's and family movie, but so I don't, yeah, I don't really, it's kind of, it is kind of weird movie but so i don't yeah i don't really it's kind it is kind of weird but i just didn't care i was like this movie seems fun and i have an amc stubs membership so i'm or a movie pass or whatever it was at the time i was like i'm gonna go see it at no expense to me and i have no regrets it is very fun and very funny i feel like that's a service that isn't provided that somebody needs to provide maybe we can do it is like a website where funny
Starting point is 00:20:16 people tell you what is actually funny because movie critics don't do it movie critics don't they're like the laughs here are few and far between it's like okay a comedy classic right and they don't talk about how their stepdad was like a shitty basketball coach and that's why they didn't like this basketball film they don't reveal that part i don't know it just seemed really really far-fetched and like okay what is this yeah but there's hidden gems all over the place in the in world for sure. Yeah. This is one of them. Wait, I have an important question. Have you guys covered the most important piece of news that has come out in the past century?
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yes. Okay. I saw. You know that I'm talking about Pattinson. I saw. And the 100%. Yeah. The One Hundo Club.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Wait, what? The Sole Survivor now? I think so. I'm sorry. What are we talking about the hundred percent rating club on rotten tomatoes used to be citizen kane and paddington too and bang citizen kane like a was it like a new review they found was like oh yeah it was like an 80 year old review from the chicago tribune or something some old review that they unearthed and the paddington lobby got involved and was like this
Starting point is 00:21:25 is no fresh fresh review i mean we're filing an amicus brief uh to have this scene that's great so paddington 2 is the goat it's it's the greatest of all time it is officially the best film ever made i mean i've been saying that for years yeah you have you and i'm very honestly citizen kane talk about overrated do you do you and kevin porter i get vibe a lot on paddington the other comedian kevin porter because i because i saw because kevin porter was also i saw him celebrating this news as well and i was like like, okay, whose brand is this? Because I think this is Kate. I don't know where Kevin came from suddenly.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I mean, shout out to Kevin, though. He's funny. Kevin, he's been in the club. He's been there with you? The Paddington Club for a while. Yeah, he's not a bandwagon. There's plenty of room on that one. Yeah. Everyone's welcome in the Paddington Club.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah. I'm late, you know, so i'll always just give it up to you as i consider my paddington og and i'll be like you know thank you i wouldn't know without wasn't there a toy store like three or four was really close and then that troll reviewer from the new york post was like this sucks and everyone got mad about that. I remember that being the last time I thought about the 100% club. Wait, so could someone retroactively, like it's locked now, right? Because this only happened
Starting point is 00:22:53 because this was a review of the time rather than someone being like, I think it sucks now. And then you're like, oh, see, I guess it isn't 100%. And it's like written by Ireland cat unit. Okay. Interesting, this review.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But like, that's what I'm guessing. Those are the stipulations, right? Because I could imagine. I was like, what would you do, Caitlin, if someone tried to do a troll review to fuck up Paddington's standing? I feel like it would be ugly. Yeah, I feel like that would not be allowed. I would not allow it. I feel like that would not be good for their safety and their
Starting point is 00:23:25 yeah 100 yeah catch my drift you know what i'm saying yeah that's interesting that this review was uh unearthed it suggests to me that this paddington bandwagon might be uh larger than even we realize yeah yeah that could be wow that'd be um is there a documentary about finding this review you know what i mean in search of it it's just interesting that paddington 2 is the is the greatest movie of all time you wouldn't necessarily expect it to be a sequel uh being the greatest movie of all time. Well, come on, Jack. The Godfather.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. Famously, you know, people like the second one better. I don't know. Sometimes they figure it out. Fast Five is the best. Yeah, Fast Sequel. Fast and Furious. Sequels are, you know, they've got...
Starting point is 00:24:19 Sometimes they just get it. Sometimes they just get it. Have either of you seen Paddington 2 yet? Because every time i come on here i feel like i've only seen the first one okay because you got me to watch the first one oh my goodness uh i'm going to it's just like i'm waiting until my kids aren't scared by pg movies anymore and then and then we're gonna watch them but it just feels like there might be a little too much scary for uh my my three-year-old at the moment i could yeah you can be honest you say for yourself
Starting point is 00:24:53 all right like look it just seems a little like in front of you like seems a little freaky to me if you it's it's a lot okay bear that talks what that? That's unnatural. Yeah, just have goosebumps the whole time. Daddy, it's okay. Daddy, it's okay. It's unnatural, son. They're pouring water on your face. Wake up!
Starting point is 00:25:18 Wake up! Just go white as a sheet. I just love you've completely passed out out of Just go white as a sheet. I just love you've completely passed out out of sheer fright from watching Paddington. Your kids are like, oh no, dad. Oh boy. It's coming. It's on the list for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Okay. Thank you. We'll throw a gauntlet down. By the next time you come on, we're not going to be fucking around. Jack will have seen both and I will have seen paddington too okay i'm just a little i think i'm weary because i don't want to see a film that would potentially be better than elvin and the chipmunks the squeak will so right i'm that's more sort of out of preservation for my own ego that i've been kind of avoiding it more than anything else so i just want to be transparent about that.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I understand. Squeak will ask was what critics were saying at the time. Yeah. Are there any, and this will give you a sense of how my cinema diet is composed these days. Are there any trains in this movie by any chance? Trains and Paddington 2? Actually, yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:24 There's a very strong watching it this weekend there's a lot of train imagery wow this is gonna be huge and i'm not even joking like it's a huge part of the story that is the only genre of movie that we really have the ability to watch right now why is it your son is it a train movie uh no again it's me it's where my interests lie yeah no my five year old I mean they're literally going to be like we need to go to Paddington Station
Starting point is 00:26:52 and then look you're going to be in the UK taking your kids around oh my gosh if I do go to this wedding I gotta go back to Paddington Station because I've been there before and yes did i do a whole paddington walking tour the last time i was in london yes no but i did follow behind a
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Starting point is 00:31:56 And we're back. And Joe Rogan, at the end of last week, started kind of walking his scientific analysis back after claiming young people don't need to necessarily get that vaccine if they feel good. You know, the number one scientific, just great scientific evidence from the people who brought you pull out game strong comes if you feel healthy you don't need the vaccine like what the fuck are you talking about yeah yeah you see i don't know what happened i don't know if like spotify got in his face a little bit but he he definitely felt like he had to say something because doctor i like how because he got to the point where dr fauci this poor guy has to be like oh dr fauci what about joe the joe rogan experience like what do you have to say and he just said you know you're talking like again he had to talk like an adult fucking scientist here and he's like you're talking about yourself in a vacuum you're worried about yourself and the likelihood that you're not going to get any symptoms but you can get infected and will
Starting point is 00:32:43 get infected if you put yourself at risk. So if you want to see him say that shit in an octagon, bro. So if you want to only worry about yourself and not society, then that's okay. But if you're saying to yourself, even if I get infected, I could do damage to someone else.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Even if I don't have any symptoms at all, that's the reason you have to be careful and get vaccinated. Yeah. Thanks. That sounds like tapping out to me bro the yeah i mean that that was the best possible way to respond is just to like you know like if you don't give a fuck about society explain it patiently like you're talking to a child and i don't know it's so dumb uh that that that has to be explained but the the thing that is frustrating to me is joe rogan was like look i'm no anti-vaxxer and i'm just saying like what some people might want to do and like just kind of diminishing like his responsibility as somebody who like is a thought leader among a lot of people, a lot of people, a lot of people who don't necessarily realize they have a thought leader and are just like, I'm just saying these are interesting ideas.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah, I listen to Joe Rogan. That's not necessarily where I got those ideas. I'm just saying that I'm just saying these are interesting ideas yeah i listened to joe rogan that's not necessarily where i got those ideas i'm just saying i'm just saying you got to think for yourself have i ever disagreed with anything i've heard on that show no right but you got to think for yourself that's what he always says um i had i had uh also some insight into a mystery we've been discussing on the show i just like his proportions and the fact that he uh appears to be like a cube as opposed to uh like you know shaped like a person uh he's like five six i didn't realize that oh yeah that totally changes just how i picture him in my mind i thought he was like a big tall brawny guy that's what my energy is right right
Starting point is 00:34:46 these toxic females are like yo if you're under five seven uh keep swiping you know what i mean so anyway what's up bro you want to smoke this blunt and talk about fucking resource draining like uh yeah he's got a he's got a very like his whole i don't know whatever you want to call it walking back where he said quote i, I'm not a doctor. I'm a fucking moron. I'm a cage fighting commentator. I'm not a respected source of information, even for me. But at least I try to be honest about what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:35:15 What do you mean? You're trying to be honest about what you're. What does that even mean? But at least I'm trying to be honest about what I am saying. So he's like holding himself up as like even the end of that statement which was like very well designed to be like hey i don't nobody takes me seriously i don't even take myself seriously uh well well done like a a fine rebuttal like complete bullshit but uh you know if you took away all the listeners who take him seriously he
Starting point is 00:35:46 wouldn't have very many listeners right but but then to end it with but i at least try to be honest about what i am saying is like yeah so you're saying that you're the only on the only person telling the truth out here like or but it's it see that's where it's vague where it could be the truth or his truth right you know where it's not quite it's not unequivocal and but yeah it's just like it's so stupid because your whole aura asshole is that you're like you walk around like you're the only fucking person on earth that gets it right okay so yeah when you have that energy that's what's gonna attract people and then trying to be all disingenuous like suddenly you're like oh i'm stupid dude what the fuck it's
Starting point is 00:36:30 just like okay whatever keep keep we'll keep moving because we all know it's a joke he's a joke it's all nonsense joke rogan oh yeah we've done it folks yeah sorry i don't i don't like to be a bully but you know these thoughts just occur to me and i just can't i can't not do it to them you know all right let's talk about uh how rich the rich are getting during this uh pandemic where everybody else is is suffering and hurting yeah there's like there's an interesting sort of piece in the new republic from jacob silverman kind of pointing out like if we had this discussion last week when we're talking about did we ever leave the 20s you know like is there gonna be another warren trans like have we left the gilded age like
Starting point is 00:37:19 seriously though like if we really think about it have we moved past it and the sort of argument that's being laid out is like as we've all discussed the rich got fucking richer during the pandemic and now that we're seeing like these quarterly earnings reports come out we're actually getting even like more depth to it knowing that microsoft increased its cloud business revenue by 50 apple iphone sales went from 29 billion to 48 billion amazon reported 185 point billion dollars in quarterly earnings a 44 percent increase from the previous year so while like you know those puny checks from the government were only able to sort of slightly stave off poverty for many people and in many instances it actually didn't which is why like when joe uh joe biden's like i'm gonna cut poverty in half
Starting point is 00:38:09 it's like yeah because the pandemic fucked so many people over that the bar is kind of low but yes right maybe how about all of it though too let's just half what if we went half off well all of that shit but yes but i think what we also saw is that the difference between industries that were able to pivot to work from home and those that couldn't just became so painfully clear. And it wasn't just like the businesses that were able to pivot that did well. It's all everyone in orbit of the, you know, sort of sectors that did well. So billionaire wealth rose by 54 percent, four trillion dollars. And the overall number of billionaires increased by 30 percent.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. And so he's just sort of saying, like,'re looking, the game is just still set up the same. So what's the difference here? Like we're hearing a lot of cool ideas, but we're going to have a K-shaped recovery, like aggressive K-shaped recovery, which is really what they mean by that is it benefits the people in the middle and the upper classes where the industries are able to rebound while everyone else who is on the other side of that sort of shape is going to just fall deeper into debt, rely on precarious gig work, as he says. And they're not, these are the people who will not see any benefits of this thing called the stonk market. So that's like kind of like the whole thing is like okay so far there's b fdr talk like what what's what are these what are these proposals he's making because they're definitely not radically they're not radically challenging the status quo so how can we possibly say we're
Starting point is 00:39:38 going to change anything if it's like very sort of piecemeal and just you know in effect yeah i mean if this is the early stages of him seeding like a massive like wealth tax that's great but yeah i i need to see it first like yeah i mean we're there are so many things like expanding medicare uh so many things that like really things that we're talking about. No, we're putting everybody under this umbrella like and we're going to do it doesn't matter what like because that's what's actually what needs to happen. It's just it's tough to see like what that future looks like. Where are like, are we going to actually move out of a world where governments are all too happy to, you know, help these corporations just sort of chip away at the safeguards that keep inequality at bay but i don't know we'll see that's why it's like did we ever get what i think it's still the gilded
Starting point is 00:40:31 age i don't know if there's like what's what's the what's changed really just has a new face uh and let's check in with matt gates real quick matt gets whatever the fuck my brain like specifically rejects remembering how to pronounce his name and derrick chalvin's name yeah and that's why i'm a hero uh no what what i just see you biden putting the fucking freedom medal on you this is for mispronouncing shitty white dude's names yeah there you go the highest honor i noticed that that became a meme with people being like i don't know how to pronounce the name and i don't care uh which i was a definitely a part of like please say my my mother's maiden name right jack it's nakajima i don't know man i don't know what do you want me to do bro what do you want me to do
Starting point is 00:41:20 um but yeah it's there's a new development. I know things kind of I don't know, other things began happening in the world. So Matt Gates wasn't sort of front and center. But it looks like Joel Greenberg, the Seminole County tax collector who was like his boy that, you know, is the reason why he like this investigation on Greenberg then went towards Gates. then went towards gates this guy joel greenberg is a fucking idiot so what happened was in 20 at the end of 2020 he reached out to roger stone to get a pardon from trump and you know he was hopefully like was hoping like shit i know matt gates he's a fucking congressperson between those two points of entry like maybe this can all go away and and because he's an idiot uh he went along with roger stone like and what the deal, which is basically he was like, yo, get ready to wire me 250K of Bitcoin. And also write down every crime you have committed in detail. Roger Stone said that? Yeah, because I got to be able to show them what the fuck, what kind of exposure you've got.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I mean, when you have someone as trustworthy as that I feel like you can do that sort of thing and we know the pardon never came but what we do know is the Daily Beast has a lot of these documents now they have a written version they have a rough draft
Starting point is 00:42:40 a fucking final draft they have the shooting script they have every it's so many levels to it they even had a forensic handwriting analyst look at like public documents that he's sort of written and gone with the handwritten documents that they have that are this letter and they're like yeah my opinion this is the same person based on my handwriting analysis and in these letters it's just revealing some of the most awful shit talking about on more than one occasion how him and the congressperson was involved in sexual activities with several
Starting point is 00:43:12 of these girls including uh one of them who was 17 years old at the time then outlining very clearly gas money gifts partial tuition payments were made either i would do it or the congressman would do it or i would do it on the congressman would do it or i would do it on behalf of the congressperson it's just all in this really just just full detail and then at a certain point like he blames joel greenberg blames one of the victims for being deceptive about their age and saying that like he wrote i immediately called the congressman and warned because he said he found out that this person was now underage. And he said he called the congressperson to stay clear of this person and quote informed him she was underage.
Starting point is 00:43:52 He was equally shocked and disturbed by this revelation. He then Greenberg then confronted the then 17 year old and explained to her, quote, how serious of a situation this was, how many people she put in danger. serious of a situation this was how many people she put in danger so you know right now matt gates uh hasn't said anything about this this just came out like like at the end of last week but the latest news with him is he is teaming up with marjorie taylor guring or marjorie taylor green to create a fundraising committee to take on massive donations, like to expand their fundraising power, and a MAGA tour. They're kicking off, quote, the America First Tour on May 7th with a rally at The Villages, the massive retirement community in Florida. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:36 So the child sex trafficker and the QAnon lady are about to go on tour. That's wild. And his goal is to just like basically let like ride it out right i think he thinks it's with this move now it's almost that he wants to go deeper into the nucleus of mago world to try and protect himself on some level by you know just enmeshing him his brand with now fucking Marjorie Taylor Green and whatever this is going to be I don't know what happens though like because
Starting point is 00:45:09 this happened before this thing dropped I don't know if that changes anything or if they're really going to be out here being like the QAnon lady is going to be like oh that's actually the deeps I don't know it's all fucking disgusting and just shows you how fucking like where
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Starting point is 00:50:26 I think this guy just duped like the local ABC affiliate in San Francisco. Essentially be like, I got all, I got the fucking receipts, man, but this terrorist organization, Antifa in Sonoma County. So I'll let you know what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I'll just play a couple of the clips where this guy is taking us on the journey where he very much really infiltrated very real, this very real group that he claims is very real. Let's start with this. My team is getting possible new insight into that attack and other recent acts of vandalism from a Sonoma County business owner and Trump supporter who infiltrated a group of anti-fascist activists. I that they were here i read their manifesto and i could tell that they were a threat to the community and so they needed to do something about this the manifesto posted online for soco sonoma county radical action or sra says do not hesitate do not wait
Starting point is 00:51:19 the brick in the street is meant to be thrown the paint in the can is meant to be thrown. The paint in the can is meant to be sprayed. The cop in your head is meant to be killed. So, yeah, this guy, he found their manifesto that only have four subscribers to it on Medium. And it very much reads like what real people who, if you're talking about like straight up hardcore, like leftists who read theory, like, I don't know if this reads exactly like that or a version of what a trump supporter maybe thinks uh like a leftist is yeah but it goes on man because he didn't just take he just you know he had to go deep you know he had to fucking really this is some donnie brasco shit he wasn't just gonna fucking pull up to antifa that he may have created i don't know i mean let's that's we'll get to that later but he wasn't just gonna pull up on some weak shit he knew how to blend in and this all comes from a fear of vandalism it seems is yeah because there was a guy who was a defense witness for in the
Starting point is 00:52:14 derrick chauvin trial uh who said who was like one of the few people like i think it was justified so people threw a pig's head on his lawn or something like that and they were like yeah i think this guy did it. So we'll talk about how he got in with the group. The number one fear of right-wing people is vandalism, destruction of property. Absolutely, absolutely. Supporter was able to join the group that communicates through the encrypted messaging app Wicker.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And you expressed that you're of a like opinion. Oh, yeah. You said, comrade, you know, I want to make the system the you said comrade you know i want to uh make them not feel alone because that's what they really want to hear is know that there's more people like them oh cool comrade um i want to smash the system oh sick man you want to you want to get in on a murder plot he checks out how quickly did they see through this dipshits like dude well here's the thing so this guy he points out that he's like and i know who the leader is and he has these recordings in which they're the group is like planning stuff but it's only you only hear two voices on this
Starting point is 00:53:16 call right and it's very suspicious this trump supporter also points out that he knows the leader of the group has an arrest record and the news actually reported this they said the leader the this guy's believed to have an arrest an arrest record uh but the da decided not to press charges he was charged with felony assault on a police officer if you're to believe what this trump supporter is saying this guy is guilty of right so the da just dropped a felony assault on a police officer charge and there's no like arrest record. So they couldn't even like identify who this guy was even saying was the leader of this group. Then not to mention Chad Loader, who's like, you know, follows a lot of fascism on Twitter, pointed out that this guy in the he's like wearing this so-called Trump supporter. He's wearing a hat
Starting point is 00:54:01 that seems to align him with a group called the Golden State Nationalists that also on their YouTube simultaneously dropped a thing saying like exposing Sonoma County Antifa. So it's like this motherfucker played a local reporter or so. Maybe the local reporter wanted to get in on this, too. But like nothing adds up about what this sort of info like what the group is or who infiltrated and who was, what are, what is golden state nationalists? Are they like a, they want to secede from the union or what?
Starting point is 00:54:31 I think it's just, I think it's just an organization of like white nationalists in California with a cool logo. Very cool. Yeah. But I just do want to say this one. He, he does like leave people,
Starting point is 00:54:43 you know, like why he did this, why he was so brave and bringing, you know, the spotlight on Antifa. The infiltrator tells me he's been careful about protecting his identity during interactions with SoCo radical action that began last year. It felt like seeing Antifa getting sort of a pass all the time from government saying that they don't exist saying that they're a myth saying that they're just an idea you know when obviously they are very real and they're a big threat uh-huh okay you spend a lot of time on these websites where like even the followers of the like youtube channel for golden state nationalists the support supporter come like
Starting point is 00:55:24 the first location of a subscriber comes from sonoma it's like everything just like points back to this dude right but meanwhile he's on fucking local news like and they're like they're not even questioning him they're like oh wow spooky stuff okay it's like what the fuck are y'all doing? It's like fucking, you can't just take a single source thing like this and be like, yep, running it. This guy infiltrated a terrorist organization. It's, I don't know. That only he believes exists. And that like, yeah, because the, uh, the government loves to let leftist politics get a pass and loves to just ignore underground terrorist organizations there
Starting point is 00:56:07 i mean it's not like they have exactly billions and billions of dollars that they have been just dying to spend to fucking do an investigation on anything that they think upsets the capitalist order like yeah they it why in the fuck would they possibly be ignoring? I mean, look, my eyes were open over the summer. I saw what happened in Portland and many other cities where the feds just gave a free pass to these leftist protesters. Right. You saw how. By shooting at them.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah. They pretty much just opened the pretty much opened the doors to the Capitol and let them wait. Wait, that's the other group. But anyway, yeah. You see? Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. The care he's gone to to disguise his identity is great.
Starting point is 00:56:59 So stupid. It's like, great. Just more like world building in your racist fantasy world where it's yeah man i i got my stepbrother and his girlfriend to say stuff like yeah let's kill some people man sure yeah yeah i could have played the i could have played the college for you because they were equally just like what group is this like who has meetings are they like yeah okay let's go over our illegal activities list right uh matt gates and uh roger stone apparently have those meetings uh please describe in detail any crime that you may be guilty of right all right let's talk about uh some pop culture stuff there's uh scott my time to shine hey get ready uh hold on to your butts so scott mendelsohn's writing about how
Starting point is 00:57:57 you know one possibility of the movie theater industry like as it reopens, like that it could look different. There's a company called Iconic Events that is like trying to change the culture around movie theaters to one where you're just as likely to like go watch the NBA finals or the Super Bowl or like a one night only screening of a classic movie with an attached experience. So basically, movie theaters are not just a place you go to watch movies that were released within the past three weeks. They become a place to go watch anything in a group. And I hadn't realized... like i knew these sorts of things existed and it makes sense to me that like some capitalist would want to make them a bigger deal
Starting point is 00:58:52 but apparently like in europe these the market of these sorts of things is already like five times bigger than it is in uh north america it's like these are a bigger thing in other uh similar cultures than than they are here and it does seem like it's sort of thing that i would be interested in but it just like never has like broken through to become a mainstream like thing that people do in our culture for whatever reason yeah i don I don't know why, especially because like so much of pop culture is based on nostalgia and like catering to nostalgia and like those, like whatever, 20 or 30 year,
Starting point is 00:59:36 what's the word? Cycles. Yeah. Yeah. Circles, cycles. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Wheels. The wheel. The wheel um so yeah i i i find it fascinating that that wouldn't be because every time there's like a whatever you know 15th anniversary of titanic being released in theaters i'm there i go right back to every jurassic park aversary i'm there i guess that shit yeah i don't know yeah i think the way they could really do is like they gotta lean into it because i think it's more the other difference is america has gigantic screen culture so in europe people aren't fucking with 85 inch tvs you know what i mean like there's a i think a lot of like we're used to be like yo i need to watch the biggest shit ever so movie theater isn't as much of like people are already trying to have a movie theater in their house and i think because
Starting point is 01:00:35 of that it like it's almost like well i don't want is there really a reason to go see this where i can feel like a bigger screen might make more sense in a world where the tvs in your home are like 40 inches and like they're they're topping out at that point i think like live music also like things that live music and comedies and things that you would want to experience with other people like right make a lot of sense but i guess yeah like the thing is if if it is like a concert like let people smoke weed in the theater. For sure. And literally bring that freedom to a movie theater. But the other thing is, if they leaned into the nostalgia, that would be dope.
Starting point is 01:01:12 If they brought back the old paper cups that they used to have in the 90s and shit. That's what I'm saying. People would be taking so many fucking pictures with those stupid ass paper. Like, yo, oh my God, remember this cup with the fucking stripes? Oh my god. And I would be geeking out over that dumb shit too. But, look, hire me Iconic Events. I got ideas, baby.
Starting point is 01:01:34 We need a new cup. Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. Like, I honestly think that should be the model is that they every one of these places just hires Miles. No. That every one of these places, like, if. No. Every one of these places, if you have a three-hour window that is like, okay,
Starting point is 01:01:50 every Friday at nine o'clock, this screen is being programmed by Questlove or somebody who has great taste in shit. Tarantino kind of already does this because he owns his own theater here, which is a little much because it's not like he has time to just fully focus on that. But like if he had a single window where he was like in charge of like, you know, programming a movie theater and then like people were executing to like make it an experience i think that would be really dope and you know if iconic events were to partner
Starting point is 01:02:27 with a certain zeitgeist focused podcast to handle programming blocks of movies uh and parties that here's your free fucking idea iconic events yeah throwback thursdays yeah and you on a thursday the whole fucking theater you play one movie from what like a big movie from a given you'd be like oh we man we playing the biggest move like or the whole theater becomes 1996 of like whenever it is and we're like yo it's May okay it's May right now we're doing May 96 everything that was out this weekend May we're putting this shit back on with the fucking trailers that even played before it and the food we have the product oh y'all want surge we got motherfucking surge on tap like they already do this with like
Starting point is 01:03:11 costume contests that like rocky horror picture right like things that are like full experiences exactly it has to be immersive i think that's the difference is it's not so much the event because i think i'm i'm pretty jaded about considering what's an event or what rises to the occasion of like an event for me. I love immersive nostalgia shit, though. Like if it's like, oh, my God, Saved by the Bell Max shit, I'll fucking peep that shit because I remember that. But like I like when people put the attention to detail in an experience like that. I think it it will resonate much more than just simply trying to make convince people it's an event right it wouldn't even be that hard like
Starting point is 01:03:50 i went to a screening at a theater in state college pennsylvania one time and it was a screening of the big lebowski and the bar there served like white russians boom and everyone was like sure i'll buy like even that if that drink sounds disgusting to me i don't care i'm gonna drink a white russian tonight because i'm watching the big lebowski exactly yeah ratatouille with like uh you know a fucking a sick ass chef coming through like yo this rat remember when they making the ratatouille and ratatouille motherfucker will Willy Wonka would be fun. Willy Wonka, you get like some
Starting point is 01:04:27 candy maker, local candy shop to like... Fizzy lifting drink is just weed soda. You know what I mean? It all works out. Miles is here, iconic events. Caitlin, we could all do this. Well, that's my
Starting point is 01:04:43 other thing is they should all be become dispensaries as well anywhere the weed is legal like every movie theater is stupid if they're not also a dispensary like if it's a movie theater that had a bar or like still has a bar open like you need to get that dispense oh my god okay imagine just for example this is the shit that came out in may, 1996. Imagine if these, like on all the different screens, you could have your pick of these movies from May in 1996. You could watch the craft.
Starting point is 01:05:13 You could watch the great white hype. You could watch, uh, Eddie with whoopie Goldberg. You could fucking watch. Let's see. Uh, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:23 That was, those are probably the bigger barbedbed wire okay dragon heart i would go see dragon heart to have a laugh yeah yeah and the tickets could be cheap fuck it but yeah make it people could go do like a double feature because they're like this is probably like my one chance to like welcome to the dollhouse movies you know what i mean yeah oh yeah welcome so if you got taste like you can be like or if you don't flipper came out in may 1796 so you um what do you mean flipper is for people who don't have good taste i mean let's be real i think there was i look i think sandy the main protagonist could have done a lot more
Starting point is 01:06:06 sort of self introspection Elijah Woods I still think about this hold on yourself bro yeah yourself what the fuck is this shit don't you think don't you think like somebody who programs these would be like that would be a dope like new career that like people
Starting point is 01:06:22 you know like somebody who quit everything I'm doing right now to program. I quit first. I quit first. I live for this. Yeah, this would be so dope. So iconic events, get
Starting point is 01:06:36 at us. I'm fucking emailing them man. Yeah, this is annoying that they're not emailing us already. What do you mean you never heard of this show? Oh my god. Idiot. Fucker. J.B. Smoove has heard of this show.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Actually, I'm not sure that he has. Have you guys ever been to a non-movie big screen thing like i know there were tv events like game of thrones i never went to any of those wasn't it called like adam events or something like they would always do the trailers and movies be like check out the
Starting point is 01:07:17 bruce springsteen live but like right right yeah the ones that they're doing are always just like kind of seem kind of whack to me but like what could it be i mean i don't know what i would what could it be now i think that's the hard part i can't get over the they have to recontextualize a movie theater first to be able to allow people to start going for other things i think we need some first need like a paradigm shift in like how we even use a movie theater and for that to kind of open people's minds in my mind i'm like i don't want to go to a concert like honestly that i can't if it's an artist i want to see i'm smoking at the
Starting point is 01:07:56 show yeah so if i can watch it later on youtube or whatever i'll fucking do that in my own home like it's not like i'm at the show so we've improved our air filter technology get pick up your game movie theaters if anyone's been to like a korean barbecue spot you see how they can keep the fucking smoke out of there if they if the air filtration is right so if you drive by a korean barbecue spot though your your clothes smell like onions yeah well it's a yeah it's just blowing out the top yeah yeah i i i'm excited about this have you guys ever been like seen a sporting event or anything like that at a theater i would never watch sports on purpose so right so you haven't paid money for a ticket to go watch uh sports i feel like i don't think the olympics would be like
Starting point is 01:08:46 like a big olympic event would be fun like the world cup yeah like when the u.s like kind of had a shot at the world at not really a shot but like did better than usual at the world cup like every like employer was like having like viewing parties and shit like i can i can see that sort of thing you know i feel like certain i think it depends on the thing so for like sporting events a lot of people will go to like a sports bar and like the screens will be on but if they sort of like reimagined a theater type space to be sort of like a hybrid of a sports bar and a theater, I feel like that would be better for sports.
Starting point is 01:09:30 And then I guess for concerts, I don't know. I would not feel compelled to go to a theater to watch a concert on the screen. The opera even? Come on, guys. I want to see Dissaube float live.
Starting point is 01:09:45 But I think there's a thing that we could do like in Europe and during the world cup country set up massive viewing parties like where they blow up. They have a gigantic screen. They're selling beer. It's in a park that feels like the best pan post pandemic type of group gathering type shit was like, yo, the Laker game is going off at this park or whatever. And can start doing shit like that i think that is an interesting way to first
Starting point is 01:10:09 allow people to be like oh yeah congregate to view things together in this setting or whatever but i think it's it's certain i think physical elements that they have to alter look they're not paying us to figure this out so iconic events how fucking could mess up. Yeah. We should, Zeitgeist needs to start its own company where we, where we create Geist events. Sorry. We're off the table. Iconic events. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:31 And also you're going down. Yep. I mean, I feel like NBA teams currently do that for the cities. Like where that, like, remember Toronto had that big, uh,
Starting point is 01:10:42 like area when the stakes are high park. But, like, when the stakes are high. Yeah, yeah, when the stakes are high. But, like, I feel like you could do more of that. I don't know. Imagine a sports bar, and I'm sorry to say this, to put you through this thought experiment, Caitlin, because this is a sports bar. But it's like a half, it's like an outdoor fucking carnival, basically,
Starting point is 01:11:08 where it's vendors for food and drink. And then the main thing is just the ability to just be outside and watch sports just like that. Boom. In a parking lot. Look, I'm starting my own business. I would go to that and just hang out by the vendors. Right. Eat food and play skeeball. But it could be a multi-use space because one time might be sports
Starting point is 01:11:25 day and then the next time we go it's paddington fest right i was just gonna say about a sports bar that's all devoted to paddington now we're now you got to keep it nimble you got to keep it the one thing i learned is starting these uh illegal parking lot bars uh is you got to keep it nimble you know it can't just be one thing sure there could be a whole merch arm of like movies now because like the way that live music like bands make all their money from the merch right could you imagine yeah you're like yo first first screening first screening two for five i got two for five shirts here this is why like star wars did that with uh the ridge tridge like in 90s. That was the first time I really paid
Starting point is 01:12:05 attention to Star Wars was when that came back and hit the theaters like on the 20 something year anniversary and George Lucas fucked everything up. He's like, what if we had a walk and talk with Jabba? No, what if we didn't?
Starting point is 01:12:20 How about we don't do that? Yeah, but like every pay-per-view event at the very least should have this as an option that's why we weren't we aren't the business owners right the little people trying to give them ideas yeah just just giving away ideas for free this is smart i feel like this is a smart use of our Intelligence and energy I'm hoping some other fucker Get way rich Just remember to Venmo us
Starting point is 01:12:51 Yeah hey You can't even let me in man Come on man It was our idea Fuck Oh you got Surge on tap Bullshit And you're playing the rock
Starting point is 01:13:06 you're selling his wife merch we just have to mail this podcast to ourselves to ourselves yeah copy written Caitlin as always such a pleasure having you on zeitgeist where can people
Starting point is 01:13:25 find you and follow you you can find me and follow me on twitter and instagram at caitlin dorante you can check out my movie podcast the bechdel cast where we talk about movies from a feminist perspective one of the greats thank you is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying oh yeah you bet um this comes from at paddington bear who i will have you know follows me on Twitter. So big achievement for me. He says, I do hope Mr. Kane won't be too upset when he hears I've overtaken him with rotten tomatoes. Wow. Aw, Paddington.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Now, is that an official studio account? This is the official account, yeah. It's not like Jurassic park to go where they're like dinosaurs keep fucking each other no this is uh this is the official paddington account and then i also wanted to share one from at solomon giorgio says it's fun that some folks think a secret group of rich people control everything instead of the widely known group of rich people that control everything. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:14:55 Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Grey. Also, the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. But check that out over on twitch.tv slash four to zero day fiance. Um, oh man, so many, so many good tweets. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Just, I've been on here just really looking and like, you know, every day I'm finding something fantastic. This one is from at hello. Cullen tweeted. What does my tattoo mean? Well,
Starting point is 01:15:20 it's in honor of my grandfather who was the Hamburglar having sex with a nun. Um, let's in honor of my grandfather, who was the Hamburglar having sex with a nun. Let's see. Another one is from Soren Bowie at Soren underscore LTD. He said, my son called me a diarrhea night house. And honestly, it's dumb. I don't know what a diarrhea night house is, but that is cutting. And that's not even my kid.
Starting point is 01:15:43 And then finally, this is from at blade obama tweeted call me marge simpson because i love you homie that's awesome you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'b. A tweet I enjoyed is from Chris Awesome at I Have Disease. Tweeted, birds are just named stuff like hot-breasted milf, and no one does anything about it. That really got me. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:16:24 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website daily zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes on our footnote where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we think you should go listen to to get into your week miles what uh what song you you recommending? You know, in honor of the Black Samurai Yasuke, the Netflix animation that's come out, and there's a subsequent Flying Lotus score to that. I'm just going to say, check out the first track, Black Gold, off of the Yasuke album from Flying Lotus.
Starting point is 01:17:00 You know, it's cool to see that Black Samurai characters are cool. Now, please cast me to be the stoner cousin of yasuke okay thank you but yeah check out uh check it out too it's dope if you don't fuck with uh anime you know try this one out uh all right we're gonna tell you to go listen to that the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to y'all then.
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