The Daily Zeitgeist - John Legend EGOT, Les Moonves HE GONE 9.11.18

Episode Date: September 11, 2018

In episode 229, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Culture King's host Jacquis Neal to discuss Hurricane Florence, Les Moonves exiting CBS and his work to destroy Janet Jackson's career, a look at the effects of 9/11, the US Open Final with Serena Williams and Naomi Osaka, the woman who dips her chicken wings into her soda, John Legend joining the EGOT club, Colin Kaepernick boosting Nike's sales, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Hurricane Florence, now a Category 4 storm, on track to hit East Coast2. As Leslie Moonves Negotiates His Exit from CBS, Six Women Raise New Assault and Harassment Claims3. Les Moonves Reportedly Tried to Sabotage Janet Jackson’s Career After Super Bowl ‘Nip Slip’4. In 2008, America Stopped Believing in the American Dream5. US Open 2018: Serena Williams' claims of sexism backed by WTA6. Naomi Osaka beats the boos and begins long road to tennis icon status7. Cartoon depicting tantrum-throwing Serena Williams at US Open causes new round of outrage8. People are weirded out by this fan dipping chicken fingers into her soda9. Welcome John Legend to the EGOT Club10. Colin Kaepernick Campaign Gives Nike a Big Sales Boost11. WATCH: Dirty Art Club "Daysleeper" Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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For Tuesday, September 11th, 2018. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien 11. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I'm turning black in these, I think I'm turning black in these, I really think so. Oh, I had to just do that. Shout out to the homegirl, Daniela Saka from the U.S. Open. We'll get into that later. But yes, that AKA was from the Cirque at Cirque underscore the who said they just signed up for Twitter just to do that. Also, shout out to the Zeitgang that pulled up at the farmer's market.

Scared the shit out of me. But it was a really wonderful experience. Y'all were the first people to ever recognize me for the show outside. And it was so validating for my ego. Her Majesty didn't hear the end of it all day. And they bowed down to Her Majesty, right? Yeah, she was like, how do you think they recognize you? I'm like, well, I don't know. Maybe you're wearing a Zeitgang t-shirt right next to me.

They put it all together. Yeah, you gotta travel. And then I was like, oh no, I hope I don't look like some type of dude who's like, yo, you better put your goddamn Zeitgang shirt on when we go out or something like that. It's better than the time I was sighted with a Zeitgang shirt on myself. Oh, right. Yeah, well, too much. Too much.

Or never too much for too much. Wait, who's that? What? Who is that? Who's that? Oh. Sixth time champion of the world.

Is this your sixth time? Sixth time. We are thrilled to have for our sixth time the hilarious performer and writer and podcast host of the all-time great podcast Culture King. Please welcome Jackie Sneal! Oh!

Kneel the world. Make it a better place. For you and for me and the entire human race. Oh, I think I used his AKA last time, and I'm using it again. Mr. T. Kellett. There you go. Coming through, because that was the only one I could find in time. That was good.

That was great. You sang it with Dylan. You definitely didn't sing it last time. Yeah. I sang another one of his. Oh, yes. I sang the Neil love.

Yes, yes. Yes. Oh, yes. He's coming through with the songs. Coming through with the songs. It was like one of those Lauryn Hill performances

where it's like a different interpretation of the song. Yes. The notes aren't necessarily the same. Yeah, that way you don't have to pay the writers. You don't have to pay the song. The notes aren't necessarily the same. Yeah, that way you don't have to pay the writers. You don't have to pay the writers, yeah. I don't have to pay Michael Jackson for that.

That thing, that thing, that thing. All right, J. Keys, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners all that we're going to be talking about today. We are going to talk about the fact that there's a hurricane bearing down on the East Coast. That's really all that we have on that. We're going to talk about the fact that Les Moonves has resigned. Fact. John Legend's e-gotting.

We're going to talk about September 11th. We're going to talk about two women of color being robbed at the US Open this weekend. We're going to talk about the second US color being robbed at the U.S. Open this weekend. We're going to talk about the second U.S. Open scandal, the woman dipping her chicken fingers in Coke and ask the question, are there other don't tell anyone about this type food things that anyone on mic does? We're going to ask you about that, ZyGang. And we're just going to check in with how that Nike Colin Kaepernick sponsorship is working out for them. Because, I mean, I assumed based on all the, you know, social media campaigns and the media coverage that it was gone to hell for them and they were all regretting and being fired. We're going to check in and see how that's going. But

first, Jack Heath, we wanted to ask you, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I think it's time to finally admit that I am a hypochondriac. Uh-oh. I routinely Google shit. Like when I have an ailment, I routinely Google shit and then by the end of the night, just be like,

I got cancer. Oh yeah. I got cancer. Just go to sleep with the thought. Yeah. Yesterday, or two days ago, I should say, I played baseball, and I pitched five innings in 95-degree weather and was exhausted. How many pitches usually you got in you?

Does your pitch count run high? My pitch count, I have not pitched more than two innings before. Oh, shit. But I started the game because we were short our starter pitcher. Right, right, right. You're like the Mariano Rivera. They have you on a strict pitch count. They don't want to wear your arm out.

I pitched like 100 plus pitches yesterday in 95 degrees. I had to lay down after I pitched. Yeah. Oh, then you have cancer, man. I'm sorry. I have cancer. Yeah, you definitely have cancer. Between batters you had to lay down?

I know. Between batters. Oh, no, guys. Ref, my cancer. Between batters you had to lay down? I know. Oh no, guys. Time out. My time. I can't believe David what's his name never did that. David Wells.

He totally should have done that. He pitched the perfect game still drunk. Still drunk from the night before. On that border between hungover and drunk. That's amazing. Doc Ellis pitched that no-hitter. On LSD. On LSD.

He hit like 40 people. He walked seven batters. Nobody got a hit. Because he didn't even know he had to be at the game. Right. He woke up. He slept through a whole day. Woke up.

First thing he did was take acid. Second thing he did was pick up the newspaper and see that it was the following day than he thought it was. It was the day that he was supposed to be pitching. And then he had to drive from Los Angeles down to San Diego. See, those are the kinds of things

that we need to celebrate more. Yeah. You know, David Wellstone, a hungover-ass no-hitter, a LSD no-hitter, those are true mind-over-matter moments. Like, I was sick over the weekend, and I couldn't do shit. You know what I mean?

And I can't even imagine. My hat goes off to these brave men and women. I need to know these. Do you think they're, like, female athletes who are out there getting fucked up? Or they probably don't take it for granted as men do because, like, men have been able to do sports. It's just like, yeah, whatever. I'm going to phone it in.

I think there's a reason, and Jacquees, as a pitcher, you can correct me on this, but I think there's a reason that pitching is in particular the thing where people get fucked up and do it because I think so much of it is mental at that point when they're lights out pitchers. And the thing that fucks up a no-hitter, the reason that nobody talks to somebody who has a no-hitter, like the reason that nobody talks to somebody

who has a no-hitter going is because they don't want to, like, fuck with their head. Stay locked in. But when you're actually drunk and all you're focused on is, like, getting the ball over the plate or, like, you know, not passing out. Or if you're on LSD and just, like, really worried about keeping your shit together

or, you know, the batter is a lizard and you're worried about him coming shit together, or the batter is a lizard, and you're worried about him coming out of the mound or whatever. You're not going to be worried about the fact that, oh yeah, I guess I did pitch a no-hitter. Yeah, your mechanics are not the first thing on your mind. Right. Because that's all it is for me. When I'm pitching, I have to actively go through the checklist

before I throw every pitch. Make sure my mechanics are right. And if I don't, then that's a terrible pitch. I hit a child on the sidelines. I hit people. I hit people. It reminds me, like, in Woodstock, Santana took acid before he went on. And if you watch the performance, especially for the song Soul Sacrifice,

he's off his face on acid. Right. And a lot of it is due to the fact that at most concerts the schedule is not on time so he's like you're gonna go on at five or whatever his set time was and he's like man it's gonna be three hours after that so he took acid and it was on time and he did they're like yo you're on and he was like oh shit and he says that when he was playing he thought his guitar was a snake and the only way to keep it from like attacking him was to hit the right note at the right time. So when you see him playing

it, he's making this face like he's like, fuck. Fucking snake. But it's like an amazing performance. So, yeah. So the moral of this story is do drugs or drink before you have to do anything. Kids, if you have a presentation, just fry up. Do very specific

drugs. Don't do the ones that get you killed. Don't do Hearn. I'm sorry. We digress, though. No, it's okay. But you typically then take an injury and you say, I played it out to the worst degree. Yeah. Yesterday, for about a solid hour, I thought I had heat stroke. Oh, that makes sense.

Because of the internet. Because I was like, I can't stand. Right? And I got home and got in my kitchen and was like, I'm about to pass out. Right. And I got on the internet, looked. Got that heat stroke. So I was like, oh, I got was like, I'm about to pass out. Right. And I got on the internet, looked. Got that heat stroke. So I was like, oh, I got heat stroke.

I'm about to die. But, you know, I laid down and watched, you know, some ball. Some Netflix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was good. That was good. Yeah, that's definitely something that I feel like as a kid when I would, like, play a lot of sports out in, like, 100 degree weather in the Midwest where it just, like, feels.

It's humid too. Yeah, you can like feel the air hitting your body. I feel like I definitely probably had like some, you know, like everything, it's probably a spectrum, right? Yeah, you have heat exhaustion. Like maybe you had like 75% of heat stroke, but just. But not the full blown 100. Just heat exhaustion.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, man, we're glad. We're glad you didn't die a heat stroke. I'm here, guys. You made it here to tell us what something is that is overrated. Joy and believing in something. Okay.

Let me tell you what I mean. So in your heat visions. Let me tell you what I mean, yeah. I've been to the mountaintop. Sunday night, first Bears game I've watched in a full year Because I protested last year This year I'm like I'll watch some Bears games Khalil Mack

Interception Fumble recovery Touchdown defense is killing it We knock Aaron Rodgers out of the game First half He was the first person to do that In the history of football Since he did it for the Raiders.

Yeah. Like before. It was an insane performance in the first half. Yeah. I was so happy. I was like, man, this is good. I was happy. I was like, oh, I believe in the Bears this year.

This is football. This is football. This is football's Red Sox-Yankees rivalry. Right. And then I stopped watching in the third quarter because I had to go coach. This is football. This is football's Red Sox Yankees rivalry. This is. And then I stopped watching in the third quarter because I had to go coach. Oh, shit. And I was like, we got this. We're up 20 to three.

We're good. And check at 930 and see the Bears lost at 24 to 23. And I was just like, yo, believing in shit and being happy is the most overrated thing. Because that shit can be taken from you so goddamn quick. Well, at the very least, I think, yeah, sports is tough. Sports is so tough. Because reason goes out the window. Oh, my God.

And it's all hope and expectation. And you know, as Buddha says, attachment is the root of suffering. I do know that he says that. Or, you know, whatever the I didn't know he said that. The Facebook post I saw from my aunt that has his fake quotes on it. But yeah. I was, yeah, guys, listen.

Also, you still watching the NFL, huh? It was the first game I watched in a year and a half. Well, we watched the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was the first game I watched in a while. And even then I remember

we were all there like, yo, this is kind of fucked up. Yeah, yeah. It was an interesting moment. I watched the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was the first game I watched in a while. And even then I remember we were all there like, yo, this is kind of fucked up. Yeah, yeah. It was an interesting moment. I watched the Bears game yesterday. I struggled with it, and I made the decision that day to watch the Bears. And I was like, you know, look. It is what it is.

It is what it is. Sports is a cruel lover. It is. It's a cruel lover. Guys, I'm asleep now. I'm not woke anymore. Okay. I'm not woke anymore okay i'm not woke anymore

i apologize it was uh the most sure thing also like because aaron rogers had been carted off yeah leg injury man and he just came back on one leg and then just had paul pierced him huh jordan flew gamed him yeah okay and then ch Chris Collinsworth, dumbass, going to say, man, even Bears fans have to be disappointed with that. And all Bears fans are like, nigga, please, man. We ain't worried. He can, I hope he's injured for the season. Oh, Chris Collinsworth.

Have you seen those interviews when he was young, when he was like a rookie? No. The kind of wild shit Chris Collinsworth used to say? No. What kind of shit? Like about the women that are attractive. I'll have to dig it up. He had a few Lothario-esque.

Your quarterback in the 70s, I don't expect much from a man from coming up in that era. Wasn't he a receiver? No, he was a quarterback. Yeah, he was a quarterback. My bad. He's old, man. Yeah. Like, HD has not done him favors.

Wow. Welcome to the messy zone. You's old, man. Yeah. Like, HD has not done him favors. Wow. Welcome to the messy zone. You can give it out. Can you take it, Chris Collinsworth? Yes. Oh, no. He was a wide receiver. Oh, was he?

Yeah. Well, you're wrong. You know why? That's my racism. You're wrong. That's my racism. A wide receiver? No, man.

Lin Swan was a wide receiver. Chris Collinsworth, quarterback. What is underrated other than Chris Collinsworth? Athleticism. Starting your day with lemon water. I have been on a little bit of a health kick over the past few weeks. I have been on a little bit of a health kick over the past few weeks. And whenever I get on a health kick, I always start my day with half a squeezed lemon into some water.

And that's how I start my day. That's the first thing I drink. And I ran out of lemons and have been too lazy for the past two days to go get some. Right. And immediately started feeling sick. Oh, shit. Is that why you're just drinking that dry country time powder? Yeah.

Yeah. I was like, what is he doing? I'm just eating the country time powder like i need to feel better and i have looked this up you can go look it up too it has a lot of health benefits like it kickstarts your metabolism for the day uh so you don't eat as much or like you can lose a few extra pounds throughout the day it helps you with just feeling better and i was like all right i'm doing it i think it's cool and the minute i stopped it's the minute i felt do you think that is a placebo effect because you know it's like one of those probably my hypochondriac ness sure i'm sure there are benefits though too i feel like i see just as many people trying to talk shit about like lemon water too right it's It's a waste of... But do whatever.

If it fucking helps you, who gives a shit? It's not like you're going to... Eating lemon water, drinking lemon water is bad for you. Yeah, it's not. It can be bad for you. The only benefits it can have for you are pro,

except you're supposed to drink it with a straw because it can mess your teeth up. Like the acid in the lemon. The citric acid or whatever. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're supposed to drink it with a straw into a tracheotomy? Or doesn't that get on your teeth up. Like the acid in the lemon. Citric acid or whatever. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're supposed to drink it with a straw into a tracheotomy

or doesn't that get on your teeth anyways? Yeah, it's still kissing your teeth. Just mainline it. Right. Just mainline it. Just put it right

down your throat. 50 cc's, cook it up in a spoon. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false?

That Chris Collinsworth. That Chris Collinsworth is a quarterback? Yeah. That's a myth. What's something people think is true that you know to be false? That Chris Collinsworth. That Chris Collinsworth is a quarterback? Yeah. Is it a myth? He's a wide receiver? He's a quarterback, damn it. Here's a myth, I think. I think that it is crazy to expect employees of just like regular jobs, for instance, to have to put in two weeks notice to quit or they're considered

a bad employee, but a company can fire you immediately with no notice. That's an insane fucking, that's insane. If I should have to put in two weeks notice to quit a job or else I'm considered leaving this job on bad terms, you should have to give me two weeks notice before you lay me off or you fire me or, well, unless i did something like egregiously wrong right but i'm more talking about laying you off because they'll do that immediately yeah and it's so crazy to me that we're starting to see a trend here right i think you are the rights of the corporation are put above the worker yeah right now let's not get crazy yeah That's so crazy to me.

And I'm not here to say giving a courtesy so they can find another employee or blah, blah, blah is a bad thing. I just think it's crazy that it's put on the worker or the employee to be that diligent when the employer does not have to be. Yeah, I think clearly the damage would be far greater to the employee being let go that their life would be altered in a way that is much more jarring than a company losing an employee. If it's like a small, I've seen it happen on production where someone will fucking bail on like a writer's room in the middle of a season to join another writer's room. Right. That's shitty.

That's shitty. That's why I said like just kind of regular. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to say regular. Exactly. Like your job is regular. Right. But anything else. anything else like yeah if you work at target or whatever right but you know i if you've ever been somewhere where there's layoffs happening you can kind of feel that shit coming you can kind of feel like you're like oh i should start looking yeah

where they're like oh they're not buying milk anymore there is no milk in here at the same time i've never seen a hr department that was like yeah we're gonna let you go but you can go back to your desk now and uh you know hang out for the rest of the day yeah they treat it like you stole something oh yeah they're like yeah we're gonna escort you out and we immediately locked your email out and then we yeah like they're they do not fuck around with that i got kgb'd the fuck out of power 106 did you when i left there they were so fucking petty yeah because like i was just like i found another gig i was like yo this ain't it anymore i'm like i'm letting you know in two weeks i'll be leaving the next day fucking security guards i'm like what the fuck am i going to do yeah you know i mean i? I don't, I have one thing here that's mine. This is your

computer. You can throw all the shit on my desk. I don't care. But it was like, it was the humiliation of it too, where I was like, well, let me, god damn. I thought I was leaving in two weeks. I still want to say bye to my coworkers. No, you have to go now. We have to escort you off. I'm like, for what? And I just, I said, well then drag me out of here because I'm going to go to every office.

But it's an odd, yeah. It's odd. So the myth is, if you got to leave somewhere and you got to leave the next day, do your thing, man. Yeah. Sadly, though, it can fuck up your relationships with places, though, too.

If an operation is small enough where they'll be like, yo, actually, you leaving like that really kind of fucked everybody else over. And in those cases, I see it. But at the very least, how about just some decency for the people that are doing the work for a ready to yeah yeah you should have to be able to brace

yourself for that loss of income is better like in a humane way because they're too many I've man losing your job out the blue is it sucks it sucks terrible man it fucks your self-esteem up to it does do like that's the big thing yeah cuz I mean I can think you'll get laid off at every job after that. Like, I remember I was laid off once, and I was like, shit, I'm getting laid off every fucking goddamn time. Right. So, yeah.

Anyway. That's my myth, guys. All right. Well. An uprising in the workforce. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Let's do it. Fuck two weeks. All right. Just a couple brief stories uh to check in with we had mentioned that there hasn't been a major hurricane to hit the continental united states in this hurricane season so far but florence now has both strengthened to uh category four uh which is one of the strongest that uh i think it only goes up to 5. And it is kind of headed directly for the East Coast.

So people are predicting it might be the most powerful storm in decades to hit the Carolinas or the mid-coastal region. So that's scary. And we'll be talking about that as it develops. That's so crazy, too. be talking about that as it develops. That's so crazy too. Last year I went to Disney World and had to postpone my trip for a week before the hurricane season because of other things. And it worked out because if I would have went the week we were supposed to, we would

have got affected by Hurricane Irma, which actually closed down Disney World. Oh, wow. Like it shut it down for like two or three days. Oh, so you missed a major tragedy. I missed a major tragedy of not being able to go to Disney World world right i don't know why you got this the shirt on too i bought this at disney world last year it is so crazy how the east coast is affected by those hurricanes almost every season around the same time yeah yeah yeah it's really really crazy that's why the west coast is the best coast, guys. Wait till that fucking earthquake hit. Right, right. Earth swallows people.

Until we die. Yeah, yeah. I think, I don't know, man. Would you rather- That big one? That big one's gonna suck. Because I can't escape it. Growing up here

and also being in Japan a lot as a kid, I was shaking all the time. And I was just like, yo, it's either Northridge or whatever's going on in Tokyo. Like, there's always little earthquakes going on.

There's something about an earthquake, though. You feel so helpless. And I'm sure in a storm you do, too, if you have to just weather going on. There's something about an earthquake, though. You feel so helpless. And I'm sure in a storm you do, too, if you have to just weather a storm. Right. But yeah, man, you just get surprised with some real shaking. Woo! Well, then Midwest, guys.

Midwest is the best. Yeah. The biggest earthquakes in the history of the United States were early 1800s called the Madrid Fault or something. And it was in the middle of the country and they were so powerful. They sent like tidal waves up the Mississippi and they caused the Mississippi to like flow backwards.

Like a tsunami or something. Yeah, they changed the direction of the Mississippi River for a period and liquefied an entire town in Missouri. So just, you know, you're not safe anywhere is my point. All right, so hot air balloons. Hot air balloons. Hot air balloons are the best coast. Hot air balloons inside of a stadium, a domed stadium.

A perfectly safe mode of transport like hot air balloons. Perfectly predictable. Les Moonves has resigned. Yeah, took him long enough. Yeah, it did. Well, it looked like after the New Yorker dropped another piece where there were six more allegations against him with even more egregious and awful crimes from forced oral sex to just other violent behavior.

Yeah. I think that finally made the situation at CBS untenable for him. Yeah. It doesn't seem like there are that many cases where it's like, yeah, he did it a couple times, but it seemed like the board was like, well, you know, even though he was ruining women's careers because they didn't sleep with him, they were just trying to equivocate enough

to keep him in charge. And it was just like, yo, now that this is out here, there are tons of other people who this happened to with this specific dude. And I wonder if it was like, you know, their idea that

that first story just to see if CBS and Les Moonves would do the right thing, which they didn't. And then all the shareholders were like, hey,

you're fucking up our money. The stock prices are going down because of Les Moonves. Right. And then it still didn't even seem, then I remember the last thing was like they were negotiating his departure or whatever. And then I wonder if they knew that they had more stories. And just to mount the pressure or escalate the pressure even more, put this piece out because they still weren't acting quick enough.

Right. But either way, I mean, he's out. And I don't think his $100 million severance package, I don't think he's going to get any of that. Yeah, he's not. Depending on how this independent investigation goes. But now CBS, they're trying to look woke and be like, we're giving $20 million to organizations that work with the Me Too movement, which is good. Yeah.

But $20 million, why don't you give, if he was going to make $100 million, why not $100 million? Why don't you give that $100 million? You got it. What's good? Yeah. Yeah. This is not, that's not a lot of money for CBS.

No. One of the weirder details of this whole story is that he was apparently hell-bent on destroying Janet Jackson's career after the Super Bowl wardrobe malfunction. Which, apparently, Justin Timberlake came and, like, because it happened on CBS, right? Yep. So, Justin Timberlake came and begged for his forgiveness, and Janet Jackson did not. But I'm sure there's also, like, given this dude's just completely toxic relationship to women and, you know, sex, I'm sure there was also just some form of toxic misogyny going on there.

And he just decided that, you know know her career was going to be fucked and how crazy how crazy is it to think that you have enough power to end janet jackson's career like right this is a jackson this is janet that is so amazing to me that and i'm glad this narrative is is changing that uh because we're seeing all these shitty people throughout the entire entertainment industry that actors and musicians were the worst people in entertainment and we're starting to see that people worst people are just people like because here's this dude and granted yeah being the lead of CBS, fantastic, beautiful. But nobody knows who the fuck you are in the grand scheme of things as opposed to Janet Jackson. And to think, like, I'm powerful enough to end the career of this legend.

Right. That should tell you everything you need to know about this dude and how he treats women and people just in general right there. this dude and how he treats women and people just in general right there well yeah and also someone with that amount of influence too because after it happened he was basically like i don't care you know because viacom who owns cbs and mtv they're like blacklisted from any of the properties like don't have her on your fucking radio shows uh like simon and schuster when she got a book deal moonves like rang up them was like what did I tell you like how the fuck did she have a deal and said heads were gonna roll

because she got a book deal I mean he definitely I mean almost definitely had some impact on her career oh yeah for sure I mean look at fucking I mean Justin Timberlake they made the entire narrative and I don't know how much CBS has to do with it or how much patriarchy or white supremacy has to do with the focus being solely on Janet Jackson.

How dare she wear that nipple ring on TV or whatever was going on. But like, yeah, you can tell clearly at that point there were divergent paths for the two of them. Right. You know, Justin Timberlake out here selling Levi's for seven hundred dollars because they have like dirt stains on them. Right. You know, Justin Timberlake out here selling Levi's for $700 because they have, like, dirt stains on them. Right. And, yeah, Janet, like, relatively went silent. We didn't know if she was just being reclusive. And now, when you think about, like, the forces that were opposed to her after that, you're like,

shit. Yeah. Of course. I mean, whether it was by her choice or not, like, she was dealing with a very antagonistic relationship to the industry. Like, that's fucking, that would be tough to deal with. For nine sixteenths of a second is what we saw. Yeah, I think it's important just to keep in mind that we follow these celebrities and think that we're following their lives and careers, but this is all being scripted by

uglier, more powerful people behind the scenes who are just- Bad people. Bad people. They have agendas. Right. They have agendas. And to ascribe any agency to the people who you think are making the decisions and all that stuff is like being like,

I don't like him because of a character he played in a movie. It's like, yeah, but that movie was written by and directed by somebody else. And, you know, anyways, moonbees and we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,

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That's crazy, man. Yeah. I was just thinking about this, and I think I've read other people reflecting on the same thing, that the longer we go. Oh, it was actually the Frank Rich article that was about how 2008 was like a turning point in American history. And he was like, if you stood in the ashes of the Twin Towers today, like on September 12th, and I told you in 17 years there wouldn't be another major terror attack, you'd be like, well, great, we won.

Like, everything's great. And then he goes on to make the point that, you know, actually the most significant event of the past 20 years was the 2008 stock market crash. But just in terms of... Or the Iraq War. Right, yeah. If you really want to take it there, I think that whole war, I mean, completely destabilized the region for many years yeah yeah i guess specifically american history

but yeah the longer we go it seems like the more anomalous this looks like it may go down as i don't know i was trying to think of like some equivalent because it was like a huge and all-consuming, spectacular event when it happened. Is there a historical equivalent of something like that that was just an anomaly? And I was thinking the Trojan horse thing or something like that, where it's just a really lucky strike that took advantage of a key weakness that we just like weren't kind of aware of or ignore i mean ignore i think yeah it's so hard is it i don't know that was such a is i when that happened i was only 14 or 15 years old or something like that so the my mind couldn't grasp the gravity of that entire thing like it would

today um but just to think like how those attacks were just laid out over the day is so insane that that couldn't have been random that was just like you said, an ignoring of something that we should have saw coming. There were a lot of, yeah, there seemed to be a lot of warnings from the intelligence community that that was happening. Yeah, right.

Yeah, it was, I mean, so when you say that it becomes more obscure, what do you mean? That we're becoming more and more detached of like from- No, no, just like more, I think I assumed that this was going to be the new reality,

that there was just going to be more and more terror attacks in America. And like, especially like in the aftermath, there was the anthrax attacks. And I was in D.C. at the time. And it just seemed like everyone was like, oh, yeah, like this is just the beginning of, you know, there was going to be a war on terror, but the terror was going to be fighting a war back on the United States. And, you know, there have been mass shootings and isolated terror attacks here and there, but nothing on the scale. There was also a, I think it was an editorial in the few years immediately following September 11th, where they talked about how it was basically a 50-50 proposition that somebody was going to blow up a major U.S. city with a rogue nuclear weapon in the next decade. And it was talking about dirty bombs. Yeah, it just seemed like, okay, this is how things are going to be from now on. And the fact that it has kind of gone into history as this like huge crazy thing that happened on

u.s soil that we haven't seen a sequel to i guess is what just what i mean that like it's not the context i would have expected looking back 17 years from now at the time yeah well i think it just gave a lot of pretext for a lot of other shit to happen. So like it gave a pretext for war. It gave a pretext for unwarranted surveillance on the people of the U.S. It justified people's Islamophobia. The effects of it are so when you think about where we are today and you can kind of be like, oh, yeah, 9-11 had a lot to do with that. Yeah.

Or like at least changing the thinking of American people. Like, yeah, I think a lot of the tangible event stuff, yeah, there may not have been another attack or things like that, but it fundamentally changed the culture in a way that we're still wrestling with. I mean, yeah, it changed the culture in a way that even our current president is, the rhetoric is toxic and vile because of that day. Yeah, and then we began commodifying the whole patriotism idea thing too, just making that whole.

Yeah, that's something else that I was thinking about on September 11th in particular, that it doesn't seem like we have a good unifying way to recognize the anniversary of september 11th like i feel like all of the things that have become associated with recognizing september 11th are things from the right like you know nascar rallies and football and you know respect our flag and stuff and it just seems like there could be something that the whole country could agree on and get behind right like you uh i think you were talking at one point about

how japan has a nationwide moment of silence yeah for like nagasaki hiroshima like at the moments where those bombs were dropped there's a moment of silence there's another one on march 11th for the tsunami right so yeah it's weird i, like, in Europe you see it too. Like, I know Remembrance Day before, like, the football matches, you see proper, like, it's really interesting to see an entire stadium, like, even with rival fans just figuring out, like, okay, shut the fuck up for a second. And let's take a moment to be solemn here and reflective on everything.

I think, too, like, in today's society that we are so quick to move on to the next thing right uh where you know 2001-2003 those subsequent years after the attack it was we were just a different society where we didn't the 24-hour news cycle wasn't as prevalent as it is today or social media wasn't even a thing or all this type of stuff that if that was going to happen for us, that moment has passed, I think. Because now it's just like, okay, 9-11, let's reflect.

But then tomorrow there will be something else. Right, but even in those years following, I felt like there was still this idea of like we still were connected to it a little bit and we're like, that was a dark time right and it did have it did did bring people together for sure because it was just such a horrific event but yeah not to the point where like i think now as time goes on we're just a little bit more and more we've distanced ourselves a bit and i don't know i mean even though when i go to new york and stuff and i go to the memorial there, there's still very much you can feel it there.

You know, like you can understand just the gravity of the situation. But, yeah, I think nationally I'm surprised that we don't really I don't know if it's a thing where I don't know. Are there real days of like national tragedy that America really has kind of took stock of? I mean, like, hold on now. Right. Because I mean, likecember 7th for pearl harbor it's like a people like oh yeah today's december 7th yeah i think that kind of ended yeah right it was a thing for a while and then you know now people are just it's more of a piece of trivia i feel like yeah people are like oh you know today was today was for a hard but i don't know maybe that's good that speaks to the idea of american resilience too that it's like we're to move forward so we don't need to get hung up.

But at the same time, you know, I think of what the world looked like on September 10, 2001 and how different that was and how that kicked off this whole other thing. I mean, even that morning, like, this is a little bit of a funny story, but even that morning for me was just different from the end of that day. And like I said, I didn't have the mental capacity to understand the gravity of what was going on. But that morning, September 11th, I woke up that morning, go to school. And that was the morning that I found out Michael Jordan was coming back to play for the Wizards. And so I was distraught. Did he announce that? He didn't announce it that day, but that's the day I found And so I was distraught. Did he announce that? He didn't announce it that day.

He didn't announce it that day, but that's the day I found out that it was about to happen. I think he officially signed the contract like a couple of days later or a few days later or something like that. But that was the day on ESPN

where they announced Michael Jordan is seriously considering the comeback. Wow, I didn't even realize that was on the same time. I was distraught. So 9-11 has a different meaning for you. So, well, now it means what it's supposed to mean.

But I went to school that day pissed. Like, how dare he come back to the Wizards? This is bullshit. And my Spanish teacher opened up the class, second period. It was like, today is just such a sad day. And at this point, I hadn't known about 9-11 yet. And I was like, man, it ain't that damn serious, guys. Michael Jordan just coming. It's fine, guys. And then he was like man it ain't that damn serious guys right right right Michael

Jordan just coming it's fine guys wow uh and then like it was like no there's a terror attack and I was like oh this sounds like a this sounds like a rejected SNL sketch I was like oh that's what happened and like the rest of the day was just such a weird day just to just hearing all this stuff trickle in and seeing the fear in people and at this point i'm in chicago so like the sears tower was one of the targets and so like gas prices start rocking it up and all this shit so like the rest of that day just and put it in perspective it puts it in perspective for me now like what i was distraught about at the beginning of the day compared to what actually happened

is just so insane how much of a difference the feeling of myself and everybody was from when we woke up that morning to when we went to sleep that night. It's crazy. Yeah.

It's crazy. As a nation, famously Time Magazine had the Summer of the Shark as their cover in the weeks before because there had been two shark attacks that summer. But they were kind of high profile and like a pretty young woman like had one of her arms or legs bitten off while surfing. And so they were high profile.

And so they were like, this will go down as the Summer of the Shark. And then September 11th happened. Aaliyah died a month before that. Oh, really? Yeah. I was at Disneyland with my grandparents. Really? Yeah.

I had just landed when her plane crashed. Oh, really? Yeah, it was the first time I'd ever flown. Oh, wow. So it was the one and only time I experienced the airport without TSA. Right. Wow. Yeah. That'sSA. Right. Wow. Yeah.

That's crazy. It's crazy. All right. Let's move on to the US Open, which was the US Open final between Serena Williams and Naomi Osaka was unexpectedly also a really upsetting event where half of the crowd was booing and the other half was crying. It was a lot. So, I mean, for people who didn't watch it, I mean, it was basically a situation where the judge, like the dude-

The umpire. Yeah. Penalized Serena for communicating with her coach. The umpire penalized Serena for communicating with her coach, and then it just sort of snowballed from there with, like, penalized her for breaking her racket, then penalized her for, like, all these different things that I've seen so often happen in men's tennis. You mean go unpunished.

Yeah, go unpunished. Like, so common. It was a – man, because the game – or the the match rather, was really shaping up to be really good because Naomi Osaka, who's 20 years old, was giving Serena the work in that first set. And I was like, yo, this is going to be a really good match. And that second set started and Serena was looking like, you know, Serena can come back in finals. It's like her thing.

She's like a slow starter sometimes. Yeah, exactly. And I thought, oh, we're going to see the three-set just nail-biter here. And then, yeah, the umpire, his rigidity, and he just started taking her to task by using the letter of the law to really get at her. And I think on one hand, a lot of people with takes are like, she lost it or whatever.

It's like, yo, first of all, have you seen men's tennis before or tennis have you just seen sports yeah people are going to lose it because this is they work their entire lives for moments like this and serena's case to win her 24th grand slam and literally cement her place as a goat goat right uh. And yeah, it was a real shame because by the end, you know, she's a competitor. He was fucking her over with a lot of these calls and she lost it

and it just exacerbated the situation and it completely ruined the moment for Naomi Osaka, who I feel like they do not talk enough about how good she looks as a player because a lot of this has been around. It's either been Serena's too hysterical or unsportsman, or she was a victim of sexism,

which I totally agree with that take. The unsportsman-like shit, shut the fuck, miss me with that. But I feel like there needs to be more praise for Naomi Osaka too, because man, that was a shitty way for her to have to experience her first Grand Slam title. I mean, when they announced her as a winner, they fucking booed, and you could just see it destroyed her to have to experience her first grand slam title. I mean, like when they announced her as a winner,

they fucking booed and you could just see it destroyed her to win. And for me, I was really conflicted during the whole thing because Naomi Osaka, I see a lot of myself as a, a black and knees person up there. I was like, yo, I was so conflicted.

I was like Serena or the black and knees girl. Like, this is crazy. I've never, I've never had anything like this. And it was a very, I could feel everything Naomi Osaka was as an American, as a Japanese person. She kept bowing to Serena because she has the utmost respect for Serena as a player. She even apologized for winning, which broke my heart. That she could tell that the audience was not happy with the result,

and she felt bad that she won. And, you know, she did a really great job. She was in the finals. It's not like they just picked somebody from the crowd and you won. And playing very well. You got there. Yeah. You got there.

And I know that's probably got to suck, too, to know your opponent was kind of psyched out by the ref and maybe didn't give you their best performance, and it's not as satisfying. But, man. I hope she's back. Who? The one who won.

Naomi Osaka? Yeah. I mean, she ain't going anywhere. Billie Jean King said in her op-ed in the Washington Post about this that she's like the future of the game, basically. That's great. It should have been just sort of a torch passing or the greatest of all time

versus the up-and-coming next greatest. You know, for Serena, who during this tournament has faced the guy who heads up the French Open criticizing her and saying he wouldn't let her wear her cat suit anymore and just like all this shit where it's just sort of an outdated

patriarchy kind of fucking with her and she's struggling to be recognized as the greatest athlete of all time without this sexist double standard and then this dude comes and starts fucking getting in her face and seemingly having like sexist double standard and then like this dude comes and starts fucking you know get getting

in her face and like you know seemingly having a very clear like double standard and like very rigid against her it just seemed i don't know i can i can see where the where she was coming from i mean it is is sexist that cartoon that australian person made today also paints it as racist as well uh was the cartoon the guy made serena look you should go look at it it's um he made serena just look like the angry black woman uh he made osaka look white and basically painted it as what, you know, what it is. Oh, yeah. They got her, like, all stomping on her racket, having a tantrum. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, that's another part of it, too, where this man couldn't. Here's the thing, man. As somebody who loves sports, who has played sports, who plays sports, there is a certain thing that you recognize as a fan, as an athlete, and usually as a referee, that when it comes down to the finals, if you are the referee, the umpire, you got to have thicker skin. It's the fucking finals. It's the finals. You have to let some things go because this is literally the height of these guys and these women's professional careers,

and everything is on the line. So the fact that he couldn't take a woman and a black woman saying you're a thief, when, dude, I'm sure your wife has said stuff worse to you. I remember, I'm sure... She didn't want to stand for it then either, so this is his opportunity his opportunity like do you see how high my seat is yeah you see how high i am i

finally can be in power shut up jennifer yeah my name is serena so you know it's it's so amazing to me how thin of skin men get when it comes to a woman shutting you down. Yeah. Where you can take so much from other men. And I know we have this machismo thing about with each other where, man, you ain't going to say that shit to me, blah, blah, blah. But how long does it take you to get to the point where you're like, I'm finally going to do something? long does it take you to get to the point where you're like i'm finally gonna do something right where all this all serena had to do was say you owe me an apology and you're a thief because you stole a point from me and you're gonna take a game away from her right right you're a bitch

i mean that's that's literally the only thing that i can equate him as there were so many dimensions of gravity to this match, not just that it was these two women, especially being women of color in a sport that has traditionally been so dominated by white people. There was a lot going on. And the other thing about the coverage was they were so insistent on her just being Japanese.

It was kind of bugging me out too because there's this other thing about being biracial where people sometimes cannot see you as being biracial, right? They're like, you're Japanese. But then they weren't, no one was saying that her father is Haitian. You know what I mean? This, she is, she is just as much Haitian as she is Japanese as she is American. And it was interesting to see because even there are times for me personally, where I have to like, people were like, oh, you're Japanese. Well, no, I'm half black, I'm half Japanese. Or people only choose to see a dimension of your racial identity when it suits a certain context.

And it was, yeah, there was just a lot going on in that match. But at the end of the day, I'm just glad that, you know what, Naomi Osaka, you got your Grand Slam. You're 20 years old. You have your entire career ahead of you. Shout out to Serena, though. She tried her best to calm the whole crowd down by being like, yo, let's knock the booing off. But, yeah, it was just a really, really bittersweet kind of moment. And no matter who you were supporting, there was no way to feel good about it.

It's unfortunate because I can't think of any other great. Oh, that's probably not true. I'm fortunate because I can't think of any other great. Oh, that's probably not true. But in modern sports time, and by modern I mean like the past 25 to 30 years. The last shit I can remember. Yeah. I can't think of any great who has had to deal with what Serena has had to deal with in this tournament.

Where, you know, you have an umpire calling you a cheater. Right. And you have, you know, this marring your professionalism and your athleticism and how great you are. Like, this is what happens. Like, this wouldn't have happened to the Tom Brady's of the world or the LeBron James's of the world or the Michael Jordan's or the Kobe's. or the LeBron Jameses of the world, or the Michael Jordans, or the Kobe's. Like, you know,

the painted narrative would have been completely different if they had done the exact same thing that Serena Williams did. Right. And that's sad to me. That's so sad. Yeah. It's unfortunate.

Yeah. Tennis needs to work on itself. Let's put it that way. Because it's, yeah, she's the best thing that your sport has done. Yeah, she revived, people fucking fuck with tennis because of Serena. Yeah, by far.

I watched ESPN clips because of Serena. Yeah, look at you. I don't watch the matches, but I watched the clips on ESPN. But your Lacoste polo looks great. I got a couple tennis rackets and I might swing once in a while. But I use them as guitars for improv shows.

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And Miles, you were saying that you saw Mike Lupica say something. Yeah, on Morning Joe on Monday. They were fucking dragged on Twitter, basically, because Mika Brzezinski was just like, oh, this isn't ladylike or something like that. And Joe was like, oh, it was all about her getting an apology or whatever. Acknowledge what is at stake for these people rather than being like, I wouldn't act like that. And that's why you're a fucking commentator on TV.

That's why you're a news announcer. Yeah, you're not swinging the racket and getting racks, kid. But yeah, Mike Lupica was like, he said some shit like, Serena Williams, she has priors at the US Open. Yeah. I'm sorry, what? Priors. Like prior convictions?

What the fuck are you talking about? Or she's hanging out with a lot of Richard Pryor's kids? If that's the case, then fine. That's fine. But don't fucking begin all this fucking criminal bullshit talk just about this woman of color. Yeah. Anyway. And this whole, like, I wouldn't act like that.

Get the fuck. Man, you would. People who get competitive playing Uno. Yeah. People wild out at McDonald's in line for nothing. So, you know what I mean? Don't give me this, I wouldn't act like that shit. That makes me so upset that we can't take ourselves out of watching something and be like,

I can't believe they're acting like that. When you act like that every day in things that are much smaller. that every day. Yeah. And things that are much smaller. Yeah. Or at the very least allow this woman

to express herself and not that be a such a fucking like pearl clutching. Oh my God. Yeah. Why didn't she just sit there and take it?

There was another US Open scandal over the weekend. What? That I'm not sure if you saw the woman dipping her chicken fingers in Coke.

Mmm. Gross. Like cocaine? Nope. Coca-Cola? That would have been more acceptable. Yeah. Coca-Cola. You should explain the farts.

But yeah. Man, y'all ain't lived until y'all had chicken with cocaine. You have one bite, start farting, you put it all away. I don't know. Because everyone on Twitter was going wild about it. Just like, what the fuck is this? So she was there with her young nephews, and she was like, hey, I'm about to do this.

Don't tell anybody. And then it got caught on national TV doing it and became like a... To the point where she was even giving comment about it. Was like, I just think it tastes good. Right. Well, whatever. If you want to do that, I don't care.

You know. Yeah. We have so much time on the internet, don't we? Do you guys have any gross, weird food habits like this that you would only do under the cover of darkness over your kitchen sink? Sounds like you have one. What? No.

I got nothing. What's yours? Nothing. It's hard for me to think because for me, I'm just like, if I like it, if I can eat, I don't care. Uh, I was telling you guys earlier that my family and this, I guess this is a Chicago thing would get those big deal pickles and put a big peppermint stick in it. How do you eat it?

You just bite the fucking peppermint stick with your pickle or you? Yeah. Huh? You bite it. You just, you, you, you eat the peppermint. I mean, you lick the top of the peppermint because it's always long. Right, right, right. The peppermint stick, then the pickle.

And like you lick the peppermint stick, you eat the pickle around it, and then you bite down on the peppermint and you eat them together. So interesting. The brine from the pickle and the mint. Yeah. Is your hand, is the bottom of the peppermint stick getting all sticky with brine? Oh, you know it is. It is.

It's a messy treat. It is so messy. That hand that's holding it and just gets that brine. I don't have anything like that because I'm more particular about how I eat. I don't drink while I eat. Miles is very particular. I don't have a sip of anything when I eat versus like doing... I don't drink while I eat. Miles is very particular. I don't have a sip of anything when I eat. I always drink at the very end.

I don't like mixing flavors. What about water? No. No? Unless I have... I cannot drink with a mouthful of food at all. Okay, that makes sense. I have friends that like as kids,

I remember like we would eat and they would just be washing food down with a drink and I'm like, bro, you have food in your mouth and you want to drink that Dr. Pepper mess in there? I can get you. No. So I'm more like in that way. Like I don't like, man, fucking salad. Don't put that shit on my plate with my other stuff.

I need a salad. It's wet. You have a real problem with wetness. I don't like food touching. A lot of that has to do with LL Cool J. I think I've talked about this in the movie Toys. I think I talked this when Riley Silverman was on the first time because we were both talking about our love for the movie Toys.

But LL Cool J, in the movie, he was like, I'm a military man. And he's like, I like my stuff on a tray, and I don't like it touching. When I was a kid, I was like, wait, that's it. That's the way. You ate with trays a lot? No, but I realized what the thing I didn't like was, and it would be like when spaghetti would touch the other thing or whatever. I just like everything. I'm just a, I don't know. The flavors it would be like when spaghetti would touch the other thing or whatever. I just like everything.

I'm just a, I don't know. The flavors, keep them separate, but equal. Separate, but equal. I mean, I'm a picky eater in general. And by picky, I mean, I just like what the fuck I like. I'll try something. If I don't like it, I'm not going to be like, I got to keep trying. I wrote a Twitter post about it this week.

And man, people came out. I was like, well, if somebody spends all their time making you something you should be an adult and eat it i'm like man they ain't got nothing to do with me they spent all their time making it it didn't ask me what i like if i don't like it that's their damn fault right right there is a weird thing i do that i i don't think it's weird but maybe some people do think it's weird i make scrambled eggs with cheese and then white rice, mix them both together, and put sugar on it. Wait. That's weird, man.

Holy shit. That is the weirdest shit I've ever heard. That is delicious. White rice and scrambled eggs with cheese. What kind of cheese? American? Cheddar? It depends on whatever you have. Usually either cheddar or American. Mix them together.

They mix together. You put sugar on them, and it is delicious. How did you start doing this? It's just something my family does. Does it start with jelly and the eggs? Oh, that sounds nasty. Wait, really? Jelly and eggs sounds nasty.

I'll put jelly on most things. You put jelly on your eggs? I think I've had jelly toast with eggs before. Oh, put jelly on most things. You put jelly on your eggs? I think I've had jelly toast with eggs before. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done that. But not in scrambled eggs where I just put the jelly on. I'm trying to figure out how the sweetness got into

the eggs. Or yeah, sweet rice? Well, because we grew up eating sugar on our rice. Oh, interesting. Until I was a teenager, I didn't realize that people didn't put sugar on their rice until I started getting made fun of for doing it. Right, right. So I guarantee,

next week when I can start eating sugar again, I will come to the office and make you guys. Make sugar rice omelet. I want some of that. Make you some. Sugar rice, scrambled eggs. It's almost like candy can omelet. No, I want some of that. Make you some. Sugar rice, scrambled eggs. It's almost like candy cane omelet. Candy cane pickle omelet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's delicious. Also, Zeitgang, please tell us some weird shit that you eat. Because I would love to just drag you on the next show. Also, this is, yeah, we shouldn't be shaming people. No, not at all. I won't yuck your yum. Yeah.

I want to find out about all the weird, you know, different regional things that people have. Because the idea of sugar and rice is really odd to me. Like the thing I think of is like Rice Krispies or something where I had rice-y something with sugar. I mean, I would like dump sugar on my cereal because we couldn't have sweetened cereal growing up yeah and now kicks i i have like some sugar binge things where i will yeah well i will big mac up oreos so it's like you know the you just fold the half an oreo on top of the other one and just go through a whole sleeve like that wait a minute you. What? You fold an Oreo? Yeah, it's like the perfect ratio of cookie to cream is if you actually have three cookies and two creams. So you take one side.

Oh, you just take one cookie off. Yeah, and then sandwich it up. Oh, so you have two creams worth of Oreos. So you take, let's see, so we'll walk through. You take one or you take the top cookie, ditch it. Another cookie, take the top cookie, and then you just – You don't need to take the other one off. You just add a half onto a whole.

On the whole. Wow. Two creams, three cookies. I'm here for that. Give it a shot. I'm here for that. I love this. Diabetic shock.

Sugar rice for breakfast and white-eating Oreos like that. All right. So I'm looking forward to hearing about everybody's weird food, for breakfast and white eating Oreos like that. Alright. So I'm looking forward to hearing about everybody's weird food, regionalisms and all that. And John Legend, shout out to him, got the EGOT.

Won an Emmy over the weekend. And two other dudes did it with him with this victory which leads me to believe that this was just like Project EGOT, where him and Tim Rice and one other dude, they were just like, all three of us need Emmys. Let's make this thing happen. We know they've been giving out awards to these live musical events.

Let's do it. Oh, Andrew Lloyd Webber was the other person. Oh, that's funny. Probably maybe the most famous ofber was the other person. Oh, what? Of course. That's funny. Probably maybe the most famous of them all. And I'm like, and some other dude. But yeah.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's like, you know, when LeBron went to Miami. Right. He's like, look, bro, we got something going on here. Right.

Trying to get this fucking ring. Right. Just John Legend here will do it. You're going to be Jesus Christ, okay? Now, I know this will sound like hot, but it's Jesus Christ Superstar. People are going to fucking love love it it's a guaranteed emmy my man did love it he apparently crushed it i did not witness i did not watch it yeah but he's the first african-american man to

win so shouts to you although he's not the first black man to receive all four awards because who is it harry belafonte quincy jones and james earl jones have also won egots but they've gotten honorary awards so whereas legend he did it off the strength of all his like individual submission every time what was this tony i don't know what was his tony uh i'm curious if you know and i was saying this before uh when is three six mafia gonna get there you got when they get their tony oh he won it for a jitney okay okay yeah all right which was that was recent right yeah I was in 2017 so he's been stringing what did he win actor or music music song for it's

all for music and not accept the Emmy is for producing that's why i called it a cheap but it's dope you know it's funny to me uh like being a black actor and you hear egott because whoopi has one too but whoopi for me it's so weird to have these people win awards and other mediums that aren't necessarily the medium that they do. Right. Like John Legend has an Oscar, but he has it for music. But obviously we equate Oscars to movies and actors and blah, blah, blah, and all that stuff. But music is very much a part of the filmmaking process.

Or Whoopi has a Grammy. And you're like, well, Whoopi don't sing, but she has it for a comedy album. Right. So it's so crazy how they get these EGOTs. And John Legend got his Emmy for producing and not for music. So it was just so crazy. Hey, but you'd imagine that his performance contributed to the show being a nominatable show. So in that way, he's honored. I guess in that way, he's honored. I mean, it's a dope-ass thing, man.

It's a dope thing that he has it. Not many people have it, and not many black people have it. I didn't realize Audrey Hepburn had one, too. What did she win a Grammy for? I don't know, but I'm just looking at this list. Comedy album. Yeah. She won. I have just looking at this list. Comedy album. Yeah. She won.

I have her live at the Apollo. Oh, so she won a Grammy in 94 for the children's album, Audrey Hepburn's Enchanted Tales, and she won an Emmy for the Informational Gardens of the World with Audrey Hepburn. So she got them after her passing in 93. So she was a posthumous EGOT recipient. Doesn't count.

Doesn't count. Oh, shit. If you don't know you got an EGOT, you ain't got an EGOT. And finally, just to check in with the story we were following last week, Colin Kaepernick is the face of Nike's just do it 30 year anniversary campaign and according to the uh pig socks hashtag I think that's what they call it or socks pig or some shit pig socks because he wore those pig socks right oh right right so that was gonna destroy Nike and the president said Nike was screwed like everybody was going to boycott it, and actually their sales went up 30%.

Yeah. Yeah. And also that stunt. Everybody's going to boycott it. There was, like on CNBC or one of those websites, they sort of did an analysis of all the talk on TV, radio, social media, whatever. That one announcement generated Nike $163.5 million

in free marketing just for that. Yeah. So congratulations. in free marketing. Just for that. Yeah. So congratulations. Congrats, Nike. Protesters. And Nike. Yeah, shout out to Nike. Way to go.

Also, we got to talk about something, Miles. So I just got some shoes. Me and Edgar both got some shoes. If he came to you, if he came at you about the shoes that we bought. He came to me salt. Yeah. Salt man. He was very salty, but he said you're a fashion dude too. And he showed you the shoes we got. Edgar

got these just regular Adidas shoes and I got some Jordan 3s. And you roasted me for my Jordan 3s. I did. Why? Because Edgar was wearing the Palace Adidas collab. And Palace Skateboards is an emerging brand that people are sleeping on. We don't have to have this out online.

But that also contributed. At the time, it was just because I was also kind of looking at Edgar, too. I was like, wait, hold up. Why are they shooting this low? I mean, it was a high shot. It was my first pair of Jordans there you go I was happy I'm happy hey look uh whatever makes you happy yeah we're not trying to yuck your young I like that is that like a uh that is an overly used thing I always see

oh I just I just heard that for the first time three weeks ago in my life oh really and now I hear it all the time I see it more and more and more. I've seen a lot of Twitter bios, too. I think because it's happening more and more and more. Yeah, because we have shame culture, especially on the internet, too, where it's just like, yo, they're living. They're not anything immoral. So who gives a fuck if you want to eat rice with your cheese, eggs, sugar?

It's delicious, guys. I'm going to come in here and make it. I want to see you come with a catering tray of it. I'm going to come with a lot of rice. I'll make the eggs here. Okay. Dig in. Get some pure cane sugar.

Oh, shit. Okay. We'll go live. We'll go live on IG for that. Yes. Jaquis. Yeah. It has been a pleasure having you.

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guest on the show uh he tweeted oddly enough he just said i'll just come out and say it the youtube album that comes with your iphone is flames really that's what he just said but i'm just it was it reminded me of that moment because I remember Everybody who got the phone They're like What the fuck is this Right And that kind of You know

Don't force the U2 on people Let them Gravitate Go to the U2 That came on my wife's Phone This weekend Yeah

While we were driving Oh Yeah If you just plug it in Or something Immediately changed it Like Spitefully

Barbara Santa Barbara That's when I always fucking autoplays for some reason on my phone and I'm like, get this away. Well, you can follow me on Twitter at

Jack underscore O'Brien and a couple tweets I've been enjoying. At Jacky Sneel tweeted, when ain't no tissue on the roll after you poop and you gotta go get some from the hall closet. It's just a video of this gorilla doing

this walk that looks exactly like the walk you do when you have a wife walking down the... It is the most dead on thing. Isn't that so weird? Because you think by walking regular, your gait is going to smear all that shit all over your body. So you do the weird waddle. I want to do an experiment to know if there's any... By walking regular, your gait is just going to smear all that shit all over your butt. Right, yeah. So it's like a weird...

So you do the weird waddle. I want to do an experiment to know if there's any... I'm sure there is, depending on how messy you are. If you just walk normal, if that exacerbates the problem. It feels like you're just smashing... I don't want to know. That's how they hear it over there. Go check it out.

And then Paul F. Tompkins tweeted, PSA, I am essentially deactivating my Twitter account. From now on, if I post, it will only be promotional stuff or jokes and other thoughts and also RTs sometimes. I will not be reading mentions. Unless people use my handle in a tweet, I will also post limited boons. Shout out, PF. Yeah. unless people use my handle in a tweet I will also post limited boons shout out PF I love those fake social media stans that people take

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sampler of music and chopping them up and blending them together this whole album we've just been listening to called basement seance is it's like a spooky sample-y sample sample-icious album and yeah i you know as i say it's vibe you know get your vibe on you know yeah bingo yeah all right we are going to ride out on that we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talk to you guys then bye so Thank you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

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