The Daily Zeitgeist - Joker No Joke? Netflix’s $160 Million Dollar Scorsese Movie 8.29.19

Episode Date: August 29, 2019

In episode 463, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Nick Vatterott to discuss the new Joker trailer, Trump trying to make the wall happen ASAP, a Aunt Becky and the admissions scandal check in, KFC getting plant based meat, the exhausted Popeyes employees, Martin Scorsese's new film The Irishman, and more! FOOTNOTES;1. 'Joker' Trailer Transforms Joaquin Phoenix Into DC Villain2. ‘Take the land’: President Trump wants a border wall. He wants it black. And he wants it by Election Day.3. Lori Loughlin Questioned Over Booze & Drug Use In College Bribery Scheme Hearing; Ex-‘Fuller House’ Star & Husband Allowed To Share Lawyers4. KFC’s Beyond Fried Chicken sells out in five hours5. 'I was working like a slave': Exhausted Popeyes employees describe a harrowing situation amid chicken-sandwich chaos, including working 60-hour weeks and shifts with no breaks6. Netflix Forgoes Wide Release for Martin Scorsese's 'The Irishman'7. ‘The Irishman’ Was An Offer Hollywood Had To Refuse (And Only Netflix Could Accept)8. Netflix Falls Short in Big Screen Debut of ‘The Irishman’9. WATCH: Joe Armon-Jones - Almost Went Too Far (Official Animation) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

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where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News. It's Thursday, August 29th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Bigly, bigly, bigly,

can't you see? Sometimes your tweets just cafe-fay me, and I just love your fashy ways. I guess that's why I'm broking your social circles so paid. Ellipses, I'm drunk. That's courtesy of

Stringy Magoo. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. MGB cushion down on the hottest loud. I tell your mother, y'all can't taco pound. Like I do it now. I'm smashing pen and mouse. And if you ain't tusking, you simply must go now.

Okay, there wasn't a beat because, truth be told, we're actually in a very secret location today. Yes. We're in the hotel suite of our guests, which we'll reveal later. But our guest, who's a very big act, invited us to their hotel room and said, look, I can't make the show. But if you guys come up to my suite, we can get this thing going. So I don't have the music right now. That's my explanation. Now, the credit for the AKA, just TDZAKH, Trey Kang. Thank you for that

one. Thanks to everybody who keeps sending the Missy Elliot AKAs and we'll have a new challenge for next week tomorrow. You said it yesterday, man. I hope that misdemeanor stuff isn't true. Yeah, it is. She seems like a nice gal. She's got a bright future ahead of her. Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess we can reveal it now.

We are thrilled to be joined by our third guest, the touring comedian, Mr. Nick Vatteroff. Do I need a song after me? Yes. I could try to do a song. Okay. My name's Nick V, and I rock the part. I fart from where I burp.

I burp from where I fart. Oh. Yeah, that was sent to me by my mom sent me. Wow. Yeah, I thought it was a little immature, but, you know. Hey. I'm not going to. That would be weird if you farted and it was a burp sound.

Like you, like, lifted your leg and it was like. That would be grosser than a real fart. Yeah, I'd be like, what the fuck? You just fart normally? No, that's cool that you fart where you. Which would be grosser, that or farting out of your mouth? Yeah. Well, people already make fart sounds with their mouths.

Right. So it doesn't much of a stretch for me. Right. But if you could. It doesn't much of a stretch for me either. Just a guttural burp from your butt. It'd be like, ugh. Yeah, because there's vocal cords.

It implies the presence of vocal cords in your asshole. And it's cavernous to get that resonance. You have your lungs, obviously, for a burp, but what's that void in your body? I hope there are still news junkies who listen to this show. They're just like, where did this go? Jesus, man. What happened to these guys?

It used to be a second-rate podcast. All right. You guys probably want to talk about more serious stuff well these are the things that come up and we entertain them like these ideas in a very intelligent way out of my ass uh all right nick we're gonna get to know you a little bit better oh good in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about such as the new joker trailer uh we're going to talk about where the president is at and just how he's thinking about the 2020 election the latest polling in the democratic side of the race uh and just all

sorts of shit today and becky kfc all the hits all the hits. The use. All the hits. But first, Nick, we'd like to ask our guest, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I just looked up the edamame. I just looked up edamame. Edamame. And apparently I've got that and enema confused, and I'm using both wrong.

Oh, man, that's going to be hard to... It might be why I'm burping out my... Right. There it is. That might be. The etymology of defenestration, which sounds like a Smashing Pumpkins album. Yeah. The Etymology of Defenestration.

I was... I don't know. I came... I don't know. For some reason, I came across... I was just thinking about Defenestration, wondering if it was common knowledge that it was throwing somebody out a window or not. It feels like it's always a word that people say when they're trying to impress somebody with words.

Like if you do an improv show, can I get suggestions? There's always that one. Defenestrate. Yeah. Oh, well, yeah, you've heard of it too. You know, they think they're going to just, you know. Blow your mind.

Yeah. Perspicacity. What? Defenestration sounds like it should be, to me, my brain always wants it to be like somebody getting their stomach cut open. Is that? Defenestration sounds like it should be to me my brain always wants it to be like somebody getting their stomach cut open is that defenestration yeah yeah i think it's probably because it has like some of the same vowels as evisceration yeah but yeah it seems like it needs to be way more intense than right well i guess getting thrown out of a window is pretty intense yeah pretty

intense depending on what the window is um Was it a Bran Stark type situation? Right. Because that could fucking change a lot for you. Would that even be considered defenestration? Because he was just kind of pushed backwards. He was already out of the window. Yeah, and he was being a creep, to be honest. I know.

He was just watching incest porn. Brothers just have sex. Like, dude, get it together, Bran. That would have been really weird if it cuts to him and he's like, oh, yeah, fucker. And then afterwards, Ned Stark's like, what the fuck's going on, man? What were you doing? Yeah, give it to her, man.

Give it to her, Gigi. As he's falling to. Right. Oh, yeah. Jesus. Anyway, so what is the etymology of defenestrate well uh what's funny is that like it uh it seems to first of all i thought it'd be like this crazy story because i i'd come across this thing called the defenestration of prague which apparently in prague there was these three three times defenestration happened and it was the equivalent of overthrowing

some sort of government or higher up it seems to be. That's what I got out of it. I thought, oh maybe it's Bobby Defenestrate. I don't know if there's Bobbies back then. Richard the Defenestrate.

It's just, it's not, because it's such a crazy word. How does it mean that? It's not that crazy. I think defenestrate Yeah, it's just... It's just, it's not... Because it's such a crazy word. How does it mean that? It's not that crazy. I think defenestrate means window and duh means push out of or something like that. Or de-window you. Yeah. So it's not as crazy of a story as I was hoping to be.

But I just was looking at pictures of where apparently the first recorded defenestrations were. And it's interesting. I was like, oh, I guess there wasn't like, it looks like this tower, it's like this five-story tower in Prague. And I was like, oh, I guess there wasn't tall buildings at one point.

Right, right, right. And then they finally had the first tall building. They're like, hey, you can die falling out of one of these. Yeah, and they use it to murder. Wait a second. Because a first story defenestration is not that's just an inconvenience yeah right exactly more that's called sneaking out of a house when your girlfriend's dad gets home right but yeah full-on i guess that's the other thing it's like whoa gravity huh yeah

like yeah hey the higher the window like the gnarlier the impact from what i'm seeing we could really yeah you could really i and everyone I was like a five-story window. Everyone they pushed out died. I thought, you know, it would just. It all depends on how you land, I think. Yeah, yeah, I don't think. Because no one had fallen out of a window before, so no one had to do it right. Yeah, you've got to roll.

You've got to watch some of those parkour videos. Those guys, some of the drops those guys take, I'm pretty impressed with. Yeah. They go out of stories? I don't know if they're full-on five-story in it but like there's some like gnarly 30-foot drops i see people like like roll out of and you're like my ankles shattered like watching the video and i'm like i wonder yeah i wonder if the saying don't throw the baby out with the bath water was just kind of like light advice like you don't want to do that because it's inconvenient.

You have to go get the baby. Instead of being like, the baby's going to die. Yeah, that's a bad fall. Yeah, yeah. Now remember, guys, you're not going to want to. I thought that somebody survived the defenestration of Prague because they landed in horse shit, but that might be a different defenestration.

Maybe. I only read about the first defenestration, and I stopped reading after it. That's one of my favorites. I hate sequels, you know, so they're just... They're rarely as good as they were. That's one of my favorite details that we erase from history is that everything was covered in shit,

either horse shit or human shit. Right. People died from being swept away in rivers of shit back in history, like, all the time. I mean, people uh you know right now everyone's always like this is the worst it's ever been and things are very bad right now but i sometimes think about it's not just there's not just shit everywhere right that was i think a little bit worse if you want to brighten your day yeah we don't take yourself back to the

dark ages yeah there's some really terrible times in history. Similar thinking, but better technology. Right. What is something you think is overrated? Boycotts. Boycotts. It's just a new boycott every week now. I was making fun of the Jimmy Johns boycott because- There's a Jimmy Johns boycott? There was a Jimmy Johns boycott because- What happened now?

Well, some photos surfaced from 1983. Is that really what it's from? The elephant one was from 1983. Oh, the big game hunting photo. Right, right. That's a Jimmy John's. And, you know, it's just we're a culture that just digs up, you know, like old things from people. Now, I understand people.

I think the big game hunting is stupid, and I think those people are monsters and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just thought it was funny. And there's probably been more pictures since then. There's a very weird picture of him, like, naked humping a shark that he has killed. And it's very, very disturbing. Yeah, cancel them for that one.

But I just think it's funny that his service is a dead animal store. Right, right. You go and buy dead animals and eat them, and people are like, I'm not. I've had enough. Oh, you killed animals? Well, I'm not going to eat your dead animals and eat them. And people are like, I'm not. I've had enough. Oh, you killed animals? Well, I'm not going to eat your dead animals anymore.

I'm going to eat your shaved dead animals. Your deliciously seasoned shaved animal flesh. Yeah, I guess that's the funny thing right now. Twitter and cancel culture have created just an onslaught of boycotts. I didn't even know Olive Garden was getting boycotted until yesterday when we were talking about it on the show. And who's eating an Olive Garden? I want to boycott diarrhea. I want to be like,

I heard diarrhea donated to the Republican Party, so I have no more diarrhea. Hashtag boycott diarrhea. They're boycotting things that you're not even doing. I don't know if the people going in and out and the people going to Equinox are not the same people. You're not... People are boycotting same people. You know, they're not.

You're not people boycotting Fox News. You're not watching Fox News anyway. Right. Well, I think that what the pressure needs to be, I think, like, especially with Fox, I think it is good to lean on those advertisers because they're essentially the ones putting the money up to platform like this terrible hate speech. And somebody did pull out of Tucker Carlson. I think this past week. Yeah. Dell.

Yeah. Yeah. So that, I mean, you know, I, I, but it's like, it's just a, it's just, I think it's obnoxious when it's every single thing. And it's also like, you know, they found like, I don't know, you're, if you

look at every, everything is tainted. You know, people are tweeting from their Apple phones that, you know, that that's, you know, you're tweeting from a phone or you're using Facebook that donated to you know everyone involved in every company seems to have donated to something that you don't like or done something you don't like right you just if you really to be like well I pick these I'm gonna book out these and not these other ones it's sort of like you got a boycott you can't do anything

like terribly yeah you're like the only solution is to completely remove yourself from the capitalist system but like sort of yeah but then how do you survive like do you have a fucking you know like you become a yeoman farmer and wear homespun clothing maybe i'm not good on a loom but i'll try right yeah but also that looms clean but these jerseys ain't going to weave themselves. You know what I mean? That's true. That's for sure. It's a great country song, too. These jerseys ain't going to weave themselves, man. Hell yeah, this one's for the troops. The guy humping the shark, at least the owner of Jimmy John's,

is claiming it's not him. It doesn't really look like him necessarily. It's also been speculated that it is jim maclewain the coach of florida football uh he has denied it as well uh but the shark is like that's definitely me that's definitely me and it's fucked up and are they gonna boycott florida football see this is what i hate too you you have all these pictures circling you don't know if it's even real or not right you know and also like i was looking it up and like each i was just thinking like okay so you're gonna boycott all these like um these franchises of where these

like people like take these loans out you know and they franchise the store they're trying to make money they have a family They didn't do anything wrong. Jimmy John himself, if that is his name, he only gets, I think it was 6%. Okay. Someone's skeptical. You're like, we never know, but you believe that's not his name? Okay. Anyway, go on. It's actually Jimmy Jonathan.

Okay. It's James Jonathan. But that's not going to sandwiches no no but like he only takes six percent of all these uh of every story so if you're if you're you're really screwing over these franchise owners and these people that aren't rich or or you know are just trying they're just trying to have an american dream and i don't know it feels like you're you're punishing the wrong people i think because right now too people feel particularly powerless over the state of things in the country and society.

So in these weird ways, that's the way people are exercising power. And I think it's coming from the right place. But it's not necessarily the best use of it or the most effective use of it. And yeah, but I also understand why people are so desperate to find things to latch on to be like, yep. And that's the way I can sort of take my power back because right now I'm looking at everything that's happening with the government or whatever. I have to wait till November to vote. It's like, so fucking cancel Olive Garden now then. Yeah, it is.

We feel powerless. It feels like you're doing something. Oftentimes it's counterproductive. um oftentimes it's counterproductive i mean i know when um like like when the nike boycott happened nike had a they sold more shoes that quarter than they did anyway because it like people the people were boycotted so you know i think the right boycotted it to the left was like well screw that we're gonna buy even more and support you even more so it actually if they had not boycotted you know uh right and done as good. I think boycotts on the right are actually counterproductive for...

They typically blow up in the face. They make the brand look cool. Like Gillette, the same thing too, I think. Yeah, exactly. Gillette sold way more. It's actually a great strategy

for a product to like go super left wing, have the right boycott you. Nike, you know, signed Colin Kaepernernick and made him the spokesperson of their company, probably not out of sheer altruism. No, yeah, we definitely brought that up. They are savvy business people. Right, yeah.

They're like, oh, this is going to piss off Trump supporters. The company that famously wouldn't build a factory in Flint, Michigan. Right. That Michael Moore documentary stuff. And all of a sudden, they're good people. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. What is something you think is underrated?

I think the Amish. I was thinking about it. Go on. Go off. Go off, Amish king. I think it's underrated. Amish king. I think it's underrated.

And I think we kind of danced near it a second ago with the loom. It's simpler. The no technology thing is, like, for instance, I did a show the other night and my phone froze up during the show and I needed it for this thing. Or, you know, I'm so much tech. I'm on the phone with this, like, you know, when their wagon wheel breaks, they never have to be on hold with customer service for an hour trying to figure out why the wagon wheel doesn't work. They just learn how to fix the wagon wheel.

It's just like, okay, time to fix the fucking wheel. Yeah. And it's simple enough. You're not like, cause so many times you have everything technology, like, okay, I did it. I did all the things. Why is it still not working? And you start losing your mind. And it's like the wagon wheel, it's broken.

Oh, well, it's because it's in pieces or it's on fire. Right. It needs to be reinforced. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So we going Amish? Yeah, let's do it.

Yeah, I think that would be a smart business decision for our podcast. Just start shouting out the window that's the amish podcast just screaming at the top of your lungs the barn raisings are the thing that's always impressed me about the amish that they'll just have like everybody come to a field to build a barn and like a weekend yeah and it'll be done by the end of the weekend just everybody builds it i mean based on the tv show was it breaking amish or whatever it's always interesting to see those people who thought that show is absurd and states but hilarious but like the people who are like leaving it's kind of interesting when you see the people who get

the itch so hard to be like everything is like like you know modern society has been othered so hard that like i can't help but to go there right but maybe we're like reverse amish in it we're like dude i'm tired of this modern world yeah i think i can't grow a beard when amish kids at 16 do their rum springer and like come and live in our world our 16 year olds should have to go live amish yeah oh yeah all right reverse anyone who lives out near amish country let us know you Reverse from here. Any Amish people, listen. Yeah.

Well, I know people out there in Amish. Rest in peace to our boy who is smoking big doinks out in Amish. Smoking big doinks out in Amish. Smoking big doinks in Amish. God. So if you're out in Amish smoking big doinks, let us know. What a fucking genius that guy was. Rest in peace, man. What guy was that?

It's this video of this dude smoking a blunt in a cornfield. And he's like, smoking big doinks in Amish and he just keeps saying and he's hitting this blunt and he's like gang at the end. It's like over. And you assume he's dead now? No, he did die because he became kind of an

internet celebrity meme guy and then when he died people were like, the big doinks in Amish dude died. He had some kind of lung complication, some kind of respiratory complication. That sucks because that's completely related to- I don't know, man. I don't want to speculate because then I have to think about my own blunt smoking. Right.

And then what, am I going to die from that? I mean- Fuck no. But you don't have a lung situation that your brand is directly undercut. I don't have a lung situation that positive thinking can't heal that's right that's what we've always said you can also switch to edible blunts right you know i mean yeah that's way better than if your lungs are bad i roll they're like damn hell yeah i don't know hell yeah man want to twist up another one

uh what is a myth what's something people think is true you know uh ghosts okay ghosts just get give me a break is it now are you someone who's been just led on by ghosts for so long you're like you know what i tried and i'm just done i just done with you it's one of these things where i just i don't get why people buy into it so hard or believe it it's just it's one of these things that just as they're telling me the story the story itself doesn't make sense have you ever heard this okay you ever heard this so there's like i don't know if it's like a wife's tale or rumor you ever heard the story about the uh the person dog sitting and um and the dog dies and the family tells them, okay, well, can you put the dog in the suitcase

and take it to this place and drop it off to get it dog cremated or whatever? Right. I've heard this story from a couple different people. I've never heard it. I've never heard it. So the dog comes back to life once? The dog is a giant Great Dane.

It's always this big dog. They had to put it in this big suitcase. They had to put it in a suitcase because there was nothing else to put the dog in. I was going to say, I'm like, why is there a suitcase? There's no dog caskets. That's where it big dog. They had to put it in this big suitcase. They had to put it in a suitcase because there was nothing else to put the dog in. I was going to say, I'm like, why is there a suitcase? That's where it gets weird. Yeah, and it was just like, and they take it. Get one of those big blue Ikea bags.

Yeah, or shopping carts. Or something with wheels. Yeah, I mean, wheelbarrows. I'm just thinking of other ideas. Because you don't have a big suitcase. So anyway, put the thing in the suitcase. But every time they tell the story, they talk about how heavy this suitcase is and how they're lugging it around.

They got to take the train to the city and take it in this. And then they're on the corner and they're trying to figure out where they are. And somebody comes by and steals the suitcase and runs off with it. And every time I hear that story, it's like, if this suitcase was so heavy, how did someone just pick it up and run off with this giant suitcase? He was a CrossFit dude. Right. Super strong, dude. That's how they trained.

No way! Yeah. The story doesn't make sense. Wait, hold on. And this is what I feel about ghosts. Is that the end of the story? That's the end of the story. And they're like, so that person got home, opened up, and it was a giant dead dog.

And it's just like, it's the dumbest story and this is how i feel about ghosts every time people tell me a story about a ghost the internal logic just the logic doesn't make sense at all i've never seen a ghost in a walgreens people have died in walgreens yeah how many people have died a lot of people died in magic mountain and i don't see a ghost when i ride goliath exactly died on goliath how come there's there's never ghosts on intersections? People die on the highway. There's flowers. There's those white bikes all over the place.

All these memorials of where people have died. Ghosts don't like the daytime. They don't like the, I only ghost at night. That's so stupid. Ghosts are not like, okay, it's only come out when it's super. Ghosts only come out when it's super spooky, when nobody else is around in a place that's already like... And there's no other people to back you up. Exactly.

And then most would be like, well, that door did close suddenly. It's like, did it? I like your energy, though. You have like a YouTuber who like debates people on whether ghosts exist. First of all, watch out, everybody. They only come out when they're spooky.

It doesn't make sense. Do ghosts really? I just love it. It's the one thing I'm very passionate about. But you have the vibe, though, of someone who kind of wants a ghost to exist, but you've been so disappointed. I would love a ghost to exist. I would love a new friend in my life.

Something beyond this mortal plane? Don't we all want that? That would be great, man. of his proof i would love a new friend in my life this mortal plane don't we all want that that would be great man uh so do you believe people who think they've seen ghosts do you think they're lying or do you think they just believe they've seen a ghost did they believe it but that's what it's that's what's crazy to me is that they they're in a place where their mind could play tricks on them right you know and uh you know it in there, it's always like in an old place, you know,

to, the idea that a ghost is walking around going, I'm gonna, I'm gonna turn the lights off and on real quick. Right. You know,

like that's how you're gonna ghost. Come on, ghost, step your game up. Yeah, do, I don't know,

put on a show. Yeah. They're always, make a basketball move crazy in air, like in a game, like someone shoots a shot and it's like,

whoop, and it goes in the other end. Angels in the outfield. I mean, that has happened a shot, it's like, whoop, and it goes in the other end. Angels in the outfield. I mean, that has happened. Ah, that is true. In that documentary. And the sixth man with Kadeem Hardison. Again, a ghost helps out a college basketball team.

Oh, wait, angels in the outfield. Those aren't ghosts, though. Those are angels. Right. My bad. So where does that come from? Don't worry. Don't get me wrong.

Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. Don't fucking say something about angels now ghosts fuck them i mean i how come a ghost just never just grabs a bunch of like you're eating a bowl of cheese puffs and it just throws all the cheese puffs in your face or something yeah i mean it moved the it moved your remote control over but people feel so stupid telling that story that they're just like i guess i can't like that's not

a good ghost story so you only hear about the ones who's like a child was like hovering over me when i woke up and whispered oh so like people had wrong it's like we actually all have ghost stories we're all just too embarrassed to admit it like a ghost peed my pants right all over them you wouldn't believe it if I told you alright well we've busted some myths here we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered.

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What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And just briefly up top, there's a new Joker trailer out for the new Joaquin Phoenix Joker film directed by Todd Phillips,

maker of The Hangover. That was the thing that was making me like, that's kind of a weird fit. I don't know. He hasn't really made a serious movie. This looks very serious. What has he made since Starsky and Hutch? The Hangover movies. Oh, right. In my mind i'm sorry

in my mind i was thinking old school right even though you said hangover i know that was like one of his first films right i mean he's made some fucking classic movies they just are all comedies and then he's made one like kind of action drama war dogs i think we all remember War Dogs. Loved it. But yeah, I don't know. It's getting a lot of good advanced buzz. It premiered at Venice and Toronto and was at all these film festivals. People seem to like it,

but you can't really trust comic book movie reviews because people fanboy out on it. Well, you can trust them when there's a male lead. That's true. If there's a female lead, it's like, I don't know what the fuck this is, man. It's some social justice shit. But I don't know.

Joker's an interesting character. The trailers keep getting better, man. The trailers, I went from being like, oh, cool, Joaquin Phoenix will be Joker, to then another teaser came out, and I was like, go on. And now this one, I'm like, this might be fucking good.

More freaky. Because I feel like Joaquin Phoenix is one of those actors who has that, he's haunted enough to play the Joker, but he'd be like an unlike Heath Ledger where it would affect him. I think somehow the Joker would be affected by being played by Joaquin Phoenix or something.

Right. Yeah, the Joker just can't recover from this. It's like, I don't know, man. It's like, that guy's fucking weird. Yeah.

Yeah. It does feel like it kind of has a vibe of his performance in the master. If it was like more on it, just like, because that performance, like he kept being like pulled back to trying to be respectable with, uh, Philip Seymour Hoffman's character, but but like this he just seems like it's like that just untethered from uh anything sort

of like a taxi driver vibe to it almost with like in the opening is he a stand-up or something i think so they seem to imply that he was right thereup. There's a bunch of stand-ups I know in the movie. I think Gary Goldman's in it. Oh, really? Sam Morrell was telling me he shot a thing in it. Oh, nice. I heard maybe Mark Merriman. I don't know if that's for sure.

But there does seem to be this interesting stand-up element in it. And it's funny because if you've ever been or done an open mic, a lot of those people remind you of somebody who's very dark joker there is a very dark energy to like a bad stand-up comic at an open mic like it's just like that is that's like the real fork in the road in life at a comedy open mic it's like you might be a comedian or a murderer you might be a joker right yeah this but this is where you make that decision on this open mic stage. I definitely have felt that there's been people that if there was not such a culture of open mic comedy that these people would have gone to a very dark place. Because there is, I thank goodness, a community.

But it's so many loners. And it's so many people that are very angry. And then they come together and they do it for the sake of making other people laugh. Right. Gosh, there is some people who's – and there's definitely the people that still despite that you know uh camaraderie still found a way to kind of creep all the other stand-ups out right there's a couple of those guys i remember being like uh whatever happened to so-and-so and they didn't really tell jokes they just went up stage and were very angry and yelled and you're like oh man yeah lewis black is doing pretty well now right i would love to see him as the joker

but i hadn't really thought about the idea of like failed comedian like just like toxic narcissism like blocked weird i hadn't really thought of that as like tapping into something uh until like you guys were talking about comedians who actually dressed up as the joker or something well i had seen well do you want to talk about this uh there's a guy i when i first moved to uh this hollywood area that we're in right now there was a guy that i saw dressed as the joker uh you know but there's a lot of characters on Hollywood. People dress also very dark. I see Willy Wonka hopping in an Audi TT every day after 5 o'clock.

Yeah, it's true. Fat Batman, one of my favorite guys. I love him. There's five of them. But then I saw him at Target, and I was like, oh, I guess he stopped by Target on the way home from being the Joker. And then I saw him eating somewhere, and I was like, this is not even anywhere near Hollywood Boulevard. And then I saw him at an open mic one time, and I was like, oh, he just wears the Joker stuff all the time. Yeah, well, I thought you were talking about someone I knew because I also, like someone I've known from my past,

I had not seen in years. And then randomly at a bar, this fucking dude dressed as like the Heath Ledger Joker like came up to me. He's like, what's up, Miles? And I looked up at him. I'm like, what's up? And he was like, yo, it's me, blah, blah, blah.

And I was like, oh shit, cool. I'm like, why are you dressed like this? I'm like, are you performing? He's like, nah, man. It's just like kind of a character study. And then months later, I saw someone else, a mutual friend. I was like, yo, did you see him?

Like I saw him recently. He was dressed as a Joker and they're like, oh, he's still doing that? Still doing that. And I was like, well, what do you mean? But I don't know if that's no longer the case. It may have actually been, but I don't know.

I think there is just something about the character though that is very very magnetic for if you have a certain personality yeah in a post aurora colorado society right now where that guy dressed up like the joker went in and started shooting the place up to dress like the joker in other situations it's just creepy it's like dressing up like the unabomber or you're dressing up like right you know any sort of mass murderer i it's just it's just sort of i think it's pretty inappropriate to be honest with you you know if you're not doing strict cosplay in a very defined cosplay setting yeah yeah it would be very you'd be like anybody but the guy who killed everybody you know like any robin right you know or uh penguin you know like the penguin

yeah it's interesting because there's a failed comedy like somebody who sees something funny about the world but like can't communicate it with the outside world like and there's like sort of a tragic element to that that uh they really identify with this character so i'm starting to really get behind this character yeah dude uh i think this movie's gonna be interesting very angry that's what i'm trying i'm just saying yeah maybe you should start dressing as the joker it would look it'd be a weird look to have my like brown skin right you want to like that's what won't cost but i'm like i'll let the white people have that it'd be weird if you guys like later on saw like the Joker guy I'm talking

about and you turn around and you're like wait that's Nick and that boy was me hey there's some crazy people around here Nick? no? call me Joker Hey, there's some crazy people around here. Nick? No. Call me Joker. That would be amazing. They're like, all right, dude.

Well, are you going to pay for your Slurpee? Why am I working at a 7-Eleven now? In this story. Oh, well, cool, Nick or Joker. Just let me get that quarter pound spicy big bite. Coming right up. Help yourself to the free condiments. Should we check in with the world?

Oh, our president, the real Joker in the White House. Am I right, guys? I mean, circus is really in town when that guy in Washington, D.C. Am I right? Man, have you seen that?

What's happening under the big top? And I mean Capitol Hill, the dome there. Three rings. Yeah, what's going on in that three-ring circus? The executive, the legislative, and the judicial branch. Hey, hey, hey. I'm still in town. Welcome.

Yeah, there's, I don't know, man. Since last week, it's always been this simmering of nonsense. Right. But it's been getting a little, I'm really having trouble following his logic paths now. It's really just kind of like he's flailing more than normal. It does seem like it sort of waxes and wanes between like a high boil

of insanity and just you know complete clusterfuckery and then like things quiet down for a little bit like the people around him get a hold of him or something but i think now that we're like it seems the adderall wears Yeah. I do wonder how much that is. He was sweating at that G7 press conference. I thought that was you. The amount of sweat pouring out of his face. But like, it seems like the polling and the economic outlook

stuff is what's really beginning to trigger him because a lot of these things are in response to things that seem to be tangentially connected to the idea that people are like, I don't know how long this economy is going to go with these policies and also like these poll numbers are not great for trump no matter how you cut them not again because we've all learned our lesson from 2016 it's just a fucking snapshot what people think in that fucking moment not all right time to go to bed y'all he's getting crushed in the

polls so recently oh yeah fuck the polls you know when you look at the things that he's promised like you know i'm bringing the farmland back i'm putting people back on those factory lines we're getting coal fucking we're raising coal like you've never seen none of that shit has happened we're building the fucking wall he hasn't done a single thing so now i think of the things that he has um the ability to like control the wall is like the one thing i guess he feels really fixated on that he can actually deliver on yeah and so now he's directing people security to build the fucking wall no matter what by election day you know the one of the things that liberals need to understand as far as why people are going to continue to support him is that – what is it?

He pulled out of NAFTA. He got out of the Paris Accords. He got out of the Iran deal. He fulfilled a lot of these promises, and this is – and he's going to run on that. He's going to like run into the ground the promises he did do. The wall is like the last promise that he... The Obamacare thing's done. He can't do anything with that. He has to forget about that, yeah.

He's going to blame McCain for that forever. But the wall is like the one promise that he has to make them feel that he's going to... That's why he's going to continue to do this thing. You know what really kills me is the... You take his lowest approval rating and his highest approval rating

and it's what, 8%? Yeah, it's crazy. Who is this 8% of the country that just day to day is changing their mind on this guy? Back on board, guys! That's what kills me. Right. Even when you say that he may say that he made good on those promises,

it's going to be tough because there's a lot of articles coming out of the farm belt, basically, that are like, I don't know a single farmer who has not been really negatively affected. Sure, some of these major, these gigantic farms, possibly, because they're getting the subsidies. But the farming thing is really starting to weigh on just the culture of farming, too, because it's sort of like, well, you're going to have nobody to i'll get you a fucking check and that's not sustainable and it's really and i think there's more grumblings now that like he has a few groups like truckers too there are a lot of truckers because of the trade slowing down that means less stuff is moving around that are

also starting to be like hold on man like yeah actually i can i can begin to connect the dots to why i'm working less, and it's you. So there's going to be a balancing act because there are some people who are just so racist, they don't care if it affects them, whatever their pocketbook, because they just want to see as much pain being inflicted upon marginalized people

or non-whites or non-cisgendered straight. Or liberals. Or liberals. The thing that makes them so happy is how mad liberals get at Trump. Like, that seems to be the key to his approval. That they'll keep putting up with. That's because the farmers are getting screwed,

and it's like, is that, what is it, why are any farmers still on board? Right. Is it that? Is it they're just, they love the trolling of the liberals. They'll watch their you know they're watching their their their tune-ups wilt if it means that the liberals got trolled and you know it's funny the only thing it seems that he is doing for the farmers is socialism right you know like that's the only thing that and so they they

they shit on socialism or any socialist sort of policy. But then it's a socialist policy. The only thing he's doing is giving these farmers money. To keep them from being literally insolvent. No, socialism is when AOC and Ilhan Omar do anti-Semitism. Uh-huh. That's socialism. That's true.

Because I don't even know what they know. Does anyone know? They don't know what it is. They sell it as Venezuela. It's like your schools are socialism. Your highways are socialism. No liberal is fighting for a – I mean, maybe there are some liberals that are saying it should be all socialism,

and those people are not helping the whole conversation. But just the idea of, we use socialist programs. Yeah, well, I think that's where people pick and choose, because overall, they're like, well, this is capitalism. But, like, when you look at, like, well, the way this is functioning, you may want to look at those definitions a little more clearly or closely. Yeah. When it comes to the wall, though, right now, he wants 500 miles of wall done before election day and

he's has a lot of beautiful wall apparently big beautiful the biggest um as it stands though i think the military has only been able to like reinforce about 60 miles so they got a lot of fucking work which is why he has been telling people uh aids he stole aids quote not to worry about breaking the law in order to finalize contracts or using eminent domain to seize property for the structure now that's where it gets so using eminent domain means you're stealing somebody's yeah land yeah you're like well i need this so now it's mine you're making somebody homeless and the president's saying you can do that even if it's against the law because I'm going to pardon you. Right, and that's what he said.

Which seems pretty, like, that's just next level. In this post article, yeah. In the post article, they say, when aides have suggested that some orders are illegal or unworkable, Trump has suggested he would pardon the officials if they would go ahead, aides said. He has waved off worries about contracting procedures and the use of eminent domain, saying, quote, take the land.

Don't worry, I'll pardon you. Sweep the leg, take the land. When they were asked for a comment, a White House official who wanted to remain anonymous said, yeah, he's joking when he makes statements about pardons. Oh, really? Right. Yeah, what is, when is, I just wish we had like some...

We're working off the same set of facts right here. Yeah, you can. Every time you hear anything, it's like, well, the president says he wants to buy Greenland, okay? No, he didn't. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. No, he didn't.

He wants to drop... I love the drop a bomb in the hurricane thing. Yeah, and how he's denying that so fiercely. And it's like, if you you look he's not the first person to suggest buying greenland he's not the first person to suggest dropping a bomb into hurricanes you know um like sometimes i'm like i wouldn't mind a whimsical president you know like if if it wasn't for all like the racist stuff and like just destroying the environment and like the divisive angry like just stoking the embers of fires of hate if because if they're if we like a like a liberal president it

was like hey man let's try to buy greenland i'd be like all right let's check it out you know or he was like what if we just like dropped a bomb in the hurricane i'd be like look into it but not a nuke though man we don't want to mess up the earth. But like big ass regular bombs constantly. Yeah, that don't like bring a tornado of fallout over to Florida. Just whip the fallout all around you. Yeah. I mean, Marianne Williamson, I think, is your closest one. She could be somebody like that.

You want a trip of a presence. Like, hey, we're just going to love ISIS to death. Right. And that's how we're going to do that. Yes. And wish away your AIDS. And you're like, oh, are you sure about that, Marianne Williamson? What's caused by fear.

Right? That's when it gets, that's when the good times start to get a little weird. It's Christian scientist stuff. Real quick, there is a poll out that might be catching his attention because it's being called a shock poll on drudge which we know trump reads it says that the top five democrats so that is biden sanders warren harris and buddha judge all beat him in a head-to-head poll by between 16 and 9 points, percentage points. But we're back to polls.

We are back to polls. However, I do think that polling, and granted, we're way, way the fuck out, but just in terms of what would happen if the election were tomorrow. Like the last Clinton-Trump poll in the 2016 election, she was up, I think, six points, and that was like early October before the comey story

happened and i think people were like the new york times and uh the washington post were saying it was like a 99 percent uh shot that she would win uh but she was only up like between two and six percentage points at the end and nate silver was like no it's like he has a one in three chance of winning and it wouldn't be that surprising at all if you look at like the like you know third party candidates can siphon off like or anywhere from like four to six four to seven percent right then that's not a good margin six percent isn't a good margin at all yeah and we saw that yeah but yeah i think you know not that we're saying hey great it's all one but it's to really sort of keep up this enthusiasm that like okay like there's a

there's a very good shot to not epically fuck this up yeah that's right there were you never know baby we have a year to not epically uh not fuck this up uh quinnipiac in kind of taking a look at the numbers and carving the polling up a little bit is saying that the main difference between Trump support these days and back during the 2016 election is that he has completely lost white women white women actually voted in support of him uh and now he's basically losing by double digits in every scenario with uh white women come on white women keep come on home well i definitely don't believe that he's gaining i i feel like he's lost more than he's gained i can't i can't imagine who is anyone who was anti-trump in the beginning who's just like you know what I don't know. This guy won me over. He's actually racist. I thought he was going to be racist enough.

I'm in. I think the Biden numbers are, I don't know. We're not exactly talking about this, but I think it's going to be interesting how the numbers change as the field gets whittled down. I don't think Biden gains anybody else. I think the other people, Highlander style, or there could be all the non-Biden people will always go – once their person is eliminated, they will just go to the other non-Biden person.

I don't – because I don't – there's not a lot of centrists left of like the core. Barely. I mean Buttigieg I thinkala that go to Biden because Sanders and one or two left for him. Yeah, it might be two left for them. Yeah. Well, I think, again, there's been the whole Biden sort of battle cry. It's like, I'm the guy with the best poll numbers. Right.

It's like, that's not enough, really. Right. We're in a really terrible situation in this country like i get that you have the best poll numbers but like right offer a fucking vision of what the country is going to be rather than being like my son tragically passed away so i would never repeal obamacare which is like the crux of like this new ad he's doing yeah it just feels very much old old school politics like the politics that used to like clinton era politics yeah well the economies and the situation with people's incomes are just too unpredictable right now and people are really starting to look at like hold on man like especially when you look at for millennials too

we were fucked by that last recession we entered a job the a wasteland of a job market we're not able to regain any of that wealth during the recovery and we're like 10 behind in everything i think like in net worth or something like 20 behind like gen x or whatever yeah like millennials really need to also realize there a lot has to be done if we even want to think that there's a future that is actually like worth living in this country like based on the kind of wealth we can accumulate because we may just be the generation that's like waiting for our parents to just give us stuff that they accumulated because the economy just wasn't robust enough for us to gain any assets.

And that outlook's even bleaker for Gen Z. Oh, yeah. And I would not count on baby boomers leaving anything for you because they're the most selfish. No, but I mean when you look at like some millennials who are still need like are still dependent on their parents yeah i'm saying in that sense like there are people who if they're fortunate enough that their parents are able to support them or whatever right that's been a form of income oh for sure generation which is

very different i'm just saying it's a bad situation when you're depending on oh yeah who were so good at planning for the future that they created global warming. Dope. Oops. Whoops. Not my dad. My mom didn't do that, though. My mom's cool. I'm talking about everyone besides

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Aunt Becky is back in the news. Lori Loughlin. Yeah. And her husband. Yeah. Which is how... Mossimo.

I love how they refer to her as Lori Loughlin and her husband. That is one victory for... Dude, just say Aunt Becky and the dude who made surf surf where i like calling him uncle becky right yeah nice aunt and uncle becky they operation varsity blues is you know still rolling on um but there's been we haven't checked in with her and there's been a few things we haven't talked about a is that she's been saying that a lot of her friends haven't been calling anymore kind of keeping their distance from her um and also other the friends that are around her have been talking shit to the tabloid saying she's obsessed with the case and has been pouring over document over document as if something is like

she's gonna beautiful mind like reveal like a thing that makes it so that she didn't actually pay $500,000 in bribes to have their two daughters designated as USC rowing team recruits. Because that's, those are the facts. And so now they're in court because they're going to have to go to trial because they didn't fucking take a plea deal like everyone else did. Or most people didn't because they were like yeah you got us whoops right they're just like nope we won't do it we're gonna fight the case and they didn't catch us exactly none of this is happening um and they went into this hearing they're saying there's a lot of um conflict of interest stuff they suspect or the prosecution was raising about their legal team because their legal defense team represented usc in a very separate case but the firm has been like no that's not going to be an

issue and then like well why are the both of you guys represented by the same lawyer like the same legal team like that's just not good for you right that's not a good strategy and the judge literally had to make sure they were not on drugs oh really like, you are, you guys are aware that the two of you are sharing, you know, your defense team. And that is not tested them. No, just asking like,

Oh, you're not on medication. You're not on drugs. That would prohibit you from understanding the decision you're making right now. And they're like, no, because the whole thing is like the judge even said,

they said, having an attorney who is working for you and you alone is one of the best ways to have a good defense. And they're like, no, because the whole thing was, you know, one of the defenses, because they're both implicated in this could be that one of them was hiding something from the other person. So they're saying maybe that's why I'm less on the hook for this because I don't know if Mossimo didn't tell me that the guy was a briber or whatever. And, but if that's the case, they're not going to be able to use that evidence to help one of the other clients out because it's a shared legal defense.

So they're just saying like, okay, I guess- We're going to go down together, basically. Yeah. They're like, fuck it. We're going- exactly. And so the judge again was being like, okay, so you're sure? They said yes. And their whole defense from what it sounds like uh as people describe it very

nixonian in fashion where they're going to force the prosecutors to prove that they 100 knew that the mastermind of this whole thing this guy rick singer was like the guy like that what he was really up to and it wasn't just some really cool consultant who could get your kids into college for a half million dollars. Right. Man, they don't sound very bright and it sounds like they need to bribe themselves back into college and learn.

Yeah. Learn how to be smarter. I don't doubt that they didn't know that they were breaking. How could you fucking think that you could? Right. Or how could you not know? you could right you know like or how could you not know the guy i mean sure maybe the guy's using language that isn't explicitly like

give me a half million dollars i'm gonna give it to usc and then your kids will get in as recruits right but when you just look at the proposition which is a half million dollars to turn my like you know vapid YouTuber daughter and the other one who I'm not sure what her deal is into suddenly rowing recruits is a very odd... Like, oh, okay, yeah, that scene sounds on the level. Right. But I don't know.

I guess that would be their defense. Yeah, the rowing recruits thing, if they knew... And they did know detailed stuff about that, right? I think they had to take photos. Yeah, they had to take photos. It seemed like a lot of the evidence was the thing that really made it clear that these people all knew was when they're like, okay, I need some information so we can make your child look like this thing they are not.

Right. I – because like this is like the elite stuff that the country hates, that these rich people just get to like – because she took a spot from a kid in college, right? Yes. Like a kid who did want to go to college, that worked hard. You have this influencer society that's disgusting. I just kind of – I would love – there's some sort of poetic justice that her stupid Instagram videos and posts wind up bringing them down. Like her being like, my parents want me to go.

And they're like, I hate rowing. I don't even, I've never even been in a boat. Right, exactly. They find all these DMs on Instagram. They're like, I can't go to the party. My mom has to get, like, I have to look like a regatta person tomorrow. Right. Or a fake college scam.

Yeah. I can't believe my mom is bribing usc to convince them i'm a rowing recruit just so i can get in because my grades are not good enough and otherwise on paper i'm a completely uh uh just non i'm not a viable candidate to enter the school i mean that would be the thing but i think everything else points to the fact that they knew but that is a hell of a defense to be like i don't know i bet i bet they didn't know like didn't realize it and that's an indictment of like what it's like to be a rich person in america that you can just that everything is just like for sale no they'll do it for us for free because we're rich like yeah we get everything we want for free like that's

just the whole system once you're really really rich like you just people start throwing free shit at you and you're just like yeah of course like i think rather than the way it works going to prison they should make the both of them get teaching credentials and have to teach teach at public schools public schools and like really get their shit together so they can i think think that's, they need an experience. But then we'd have to watch the movie that was like Dangerous Minds starring her as herself. It's more of a comedy. It's like, she was a high-flying actress.

So one mistake sent her back to school. I just love the defense of ignorance, you know, just like, you bought drugs in the street. No, this guy was a consultant for my depression. Right. He said that if I just breathed in the smoke from this, here, rock. If I just do a line of this antidepressant, I'll be good. And he said it was all herbal. It was all, you know.

Well, that's what shows you, man. It's just a hell of a drug at that level where you really think, mean like things everything's viable influences energy everything's a transaction nothing is about merit it's just about your outsized power yeah and this defense is all about them refusing to leave that bubble just being like yeah again how anybody would have made this mistake it's like no hold on you i'm really getting in trouble for this right really because this is how it works out here right it's like yeah but that's outside of the legal structure. Out here is inside a very small bubble

that you live in, and that is not reality. Meanwhile, Felicity Huffman, who did take a plea deal, they're saying at most she could get four months, but they don't even think she'll even see a prison at all. Right, because she was like, oh, yeah, our bad. We fucked up. That was a terrible idea. I oh yeah so ashamed yeah then meanwhile you have the cocky the cocky twins

over here who were like we didn't know i mean when you see just like a video from the daughter that they got into usc she's a young person so i'm not but it's just like that this person was not interested in college right and to put it like like the world that allows that sort of mindset to exist has to be really fucked well yeah i mean i grew up with a lot of kids like that in la who are basically defanged by their parents like wealth yeah like they just have never had to think independently do these other things because their wealth they were around just it's a completely developmental world you're in at that point yeah and i think for some yeah like you see kids like that i'm like i guess i have to go to college but i don't know like my

parents like they're like loaded like i can just go right i can just live in san trope if i wanted right but yeah they can fund my instagram career yeah and, and you just see, but now, cut to now, when we're in our 30s, and they're flailing as adults. They just don't, they're realizing now, they're like, oh my God, it was fine when I was in my 20s

and didn't have a care in the world, but starting to think about having a future or a family and realizing you have no job skills or life skills, there's a few who I think are in not good shape. That's assuming that you don't consider dressing up as the Joker job skills or life skills. There's a few who I think are in not good shape. That's assuming that you don't consider dressing up as the Joker and doing open mic nights a life skill. Yeah, that's true.

This is actually an authentic costume. This is a screen accurate. It's not some bag costume. Well, speaking of herbal remedies, guys, KFC has been teasing a plant-based alternative to their chicken. And, man, chicken is just storming the zeitgeist in the past couple weeks because this went huge in Atlanta. In Atlanta, they said, first of all, they're offering beyond meat-created nuggets and boneless wings. The first thing I want to ask is are those not the

same fucking thing nuggets first boneless wing i mean i get that the process if it were chicken a nugget is clearly just that pink goo they cut into shapes and then fry and then a boneless wing isn't necessarily fried right it's like flesh well i think it can be right but it's more of a it's like chicken flesh versus yeah the goo that i fry okay but then i'm saying at the when you're doing at this point when it's beyond meat i feel like it's essentially the same thing just in different shapes yeah anyway i need i need my beyond meat to be breaded yeah and also look i just don't boneless wings are an abomination my book is all flats all day. Thank you. You already know my position on that. So in Atlanta, they were crowds gathering at 8 a.m. to get this new Nuggie.

And throughout the day, they say, the dine-in line wrapped around the building with double-looped drive-thru lines. I don't even know what that is, but that sounds like a fucking nightmare. Crisis actors. This sounds like crisis. This is a false flag attack against big chicken.'s lining up for not real chicken well this is the thing because i think it's just a lot of people like the whole uh sort of plant-based like options

at fast food been doing really well which is interesting yeah i could see it in california or you know or the west coast that sounds like a west coast thing that's pretty liberal like in certain spots yeah but I feel like they... I don't know. I feel like there's a resistance of Midwest and South. Not among young people. We like real meat. We like barbecue.

We like real chicken and stuff. And to be that excited in Atlanta about... To be honest, I feel like because most chicken nuggets are so processed in my mind it was never chicken chicken nugget is its own right category there's more meat now than there ever was yeah suddenly like i feel like that one actually might work as a thing where no one's going to be like oh i can't even taste the goo in this because you can never taste the chicken

in the fucking nugget it was just about the seasoning, basically, in the fry. And the sauces. But they said this test was so successful, they said in five hours, guests purchased the same amount of fried chicken that they would – in terms of the popcorn chicken that they would sell, five hours of what they would normally do in a week. Damn. I think this is probably an underrated market. Capitalistically speaking, this is going to be a huge wave coming. There's this global data poll that found that a full 70% of the population at large is reducing meat consumption or leaving meat behind altogether and it's really driven by

millennials like as you know they're becoming adults and making their own purchasing decisions it's becoming just more and more of the population is is now either going full like vegan or vegetarian or at least just wanting to like now there now there's the thing of, like, I'm a weekday vegetarian or, you know, weekday vegan. Uh-huh. Not to step on a story we might talk about, but, like, you know, the whole Amazon thing, you know, it's like the Amazon's on fire. Right. And it's just like, you know, oh, I can't believe it. Then you read into it, and they're clearing land for cattle.

And so it's like everyone's just – we talk about the boycotts and stuff like that. Everyone's so upset and being like, screw us as humans. But how many people are genuinely being like, okay, I'm going to not eat meat for a whole month. And if we all did that like maybe there wouldn't be this motivation to clear so much amazon forest out of the way sure i certainly have not i've i've been complaining about the amazon and i have not adjusted my meat consumption at all you know um i don't know i mean that is like it it seems like a very real effective thing for this beyond meat and stuff to yeah well and it's also like a very it's a thing for this Beyond Meat and stuff to be.

Yeah, and it's also like a very, it's a direct thing you can do that you can at least feel like, it's like some of the lowest hanging fruit in terms of being like, okay, I can sort of reduce my impact if I am eating differently. That is something you have control of, but, you know. Yeah, and somehow McDonald's is sleeping on this because Burger king got the beyond burgers they got the beyond whopper yeah and they're rolling mcdonald's like one of the

biggest purchasers of beef yeah oh yeah like i'm wondering what that delicate bet like what that profit-based balance is where they have to figure out how they you know throttle that down and bring this other shit online i'm just worried about them as well. Yeah, yeah. I mean, thoughts and prayers to McDonald's. I think beyond an impossible, it might be in some sort of bidding war right now for McDonald's. Right. Whoever lands that is going to like... Those sales people

are getting Ronald McDonald fucked up at sales. They're like, hey man, should I get another eight ball, dude? Good. Alright, man. Got dancers coming up to the suite later so you know but i mean the meat in a mcdonald's hamburger like the big mac is not about meat quality like the big mac is going to be just as good with like a beyond that's what probably better that's what i'm saying like with nuggets like i didn't know i never thought it was chicken like i could have been plant-based

the whole fucking time i wouldn't have known because to me it's not what I didn't know. I never thought it was chicken. It could have been plant-based the whole fucking time. I wouldn't have known because to me, it's not what in my mind go, oh, that's chicky. And the burgers, when you look at a fucking patty, you're like, is this meat? I don't fucking know. That's why I feel like Taco Bell could get away with that shit too. The shit is like fucking not. The ground beef, are we being for real?

That's been a horse for years. It's fucking old toenails. The difference is we will have to confront the reality of what it tastes when that isn't like sawdust and like meat flavoring. Oh, can we, by the way, can we get Walking Phoenix to play Ronald McDonald at some point? Holy shit. Yeah. That would be a amazing movie.

Popeyes, meanwhile. I mean, so something that we're seeing now with these test marketing things where they become huge global phenomenons due to social media is that the workers are kind of uh it's not great for them they go from like being a you know they're staffed like a middling fast food restaurant and then suddenly it's like you know they're working at an Apple store on iPhone drop day. Like it's, yeah. People are talking about feeling like one 18 year old said, I was working like a slave in the back,

prepping the buns with pickles and the spicy mayo. And another person said everyone wanted to quit so bad because it was that bad. We have never seen it get this insanely busy so yeah i mean it's just one person made 600 sandwiches during their shift yeah i was yeah i mean we got in before it got really really crazy and yeah we're popeye's hipsters right we're popeye's hipsters like we were into it kind of before the buzz like we already knew like we were kind of like on to the next thing already we were on we were on to KFC nuggets already oh you guys still like the Popeye's chicken sandwich oh wow

it was already a little bit busy and you could tell it was they were doing a great job though yeah great job with the Popeye's crew uh and then real quick, Netflix has a movie coming out called The Irishman, the new Martin Scorsese mafia hitman movie. It's about the hitman who allegedly killed Jimmy Hoffa. I thought he was alive. Hoffa?

Yeah. You're thinking a hove. No. Wasn't there a conspiracy theory that Jimmy Hoffa wasn't dead? Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah. Because people don't know where his body is. Right, right, right. So there's a theory that he's various people.

Oh, he assumed other people? Yeah, that he became... Wow, okay. That's when it gets real cool. Matthew McConaughey, I think, was one I heard. All right, all right. Matthew McConaughey, I think was one of her. All right, all right. But so this is being put out by, like it's been kind of a legendary production in Hollywood

because nobody could fund it because what he wanted to do is, you know, have Al Pacino and Robert De Niro in it, but then they're playing characters. Like there's a lot of flashbacks. so you're seeing them as young men so they have to like de-age them so people are like this is like a prestige oscar movie but it's gonna end up costing like 200 million dollars oh because of all the like digitized like to make digitized de-aging, all that stuff, making Al Pacino look like he's tall. Miles, you were showing us actually a picture of De Niro,

I guess, is playing a tall character because he is in some lifts. Or like Frankenstein is in the mob with the same kind of shoe. Right, yeah. He looks like Louis XIV a little bit with those big old heels. Chunky lifts. So nobody was going to make this movie for the studio system

because it wasn't going to make its money back. Oh, because they knew up front it's like a bulk of the budget has to go into making these septuagenarians look younger again. Right, but Netflix, because their model is more like getting their name in the news

and seeming indispensable, stepped in and they funded it uh it did end up costing i think 160 million dollars and that's not even taking marketing into account um so yeah after marketing and distribution it would have to make around 400 to 450 million to break even uh but with netflix they don't have to make back a specific dollar amount they just need to kind of bolster their image as a necessary commodity um but they just took a hit because they are trying to get like a wide release like a standard like big movie that releases in thousands of theaters and theater chains have denied them that right because they didn't want to leave it in theaters alone without going to

netflix for the requisite i think it's three months uh is what theaters demand before it starts appearing elsewhere oh so like with r, that's why it was very limited. Right. Because it was just like the theaters that were like, yeah, this is a good film and we'll put it there. Right.

But other ones are just stonewalling. Like AMC and the big theater chains, they have, they're like- Just a policy of like, yeah. If you hold this back for the standard two to three months, then people are going to feel like- We'll cannibalize our business.

Right. And I mean, they're kind of right. I think it probably suppresses business if you're like, oh, I can watch this on Netflix and I wait. I pay already for it, though, too? I knew that from the start about Roma and ended up watching it at home. Why wouldn't they just keep it in the standard release?

Oh, no. Because they want it to feel... I think Netflix wants to feel like a movie studio. So they're also releasing 12 other movies that are... I guess 10 other movies that are all Oscar prestige movies this year alone just to try and become... Like win an Oscar, essentially. essentially yeah but so put them in the theaters and play i don't understand why they won't like do what the theaters want right oh

why won't they leave it in theaters for a longer period of time because they're stubborn and they're like no we're doing this for our streaming service it's also so funny because it's like if blockbuster started making movies right you know if Blockbuster was just like why don't we just make these like some like

guys hey we know something about movies like that guy behind the counter just like I'm better than all these

these directors the problem with Pulp Fiction actually is it's like oh boy alright that's our VP of development

right but yeah I mean that's sort of the thing where they're butting up against their position as a disruptor in the film industry. And then you're kind of seeing them

sort of butting up against the established powers. Like, well, you need the theaters. And the theaters and the traditional studios kind of get, this is how you do business. And I think they're like, if you want to fuck around and be like the other guys, then you got to follow the rules. And I think that's what Netflix is like.

Fuck you guys. Right. Which I don't know if that's going to be to their detriment or not. We're Netflix, bro. I don't know. We're deficit spending like the world's fucking ending. I know. I don't get every time you hear like Twitter and Netflix

are these like super popular things and you hear that they don't make any money at all. You know, they lose money. I hear Netflix loses. I don't make any money at all you know they lose money i hear netflix loses i don't i don't get billions yeah i don't get how they how it sustains itself well it's just enough to keep growing their subscriber base and then eventually become so big that it'll force like google or app like they just want to get so big that someone's gonna have to buy them right that's kind of yeah at least that's what i every time i ask somebody who like does business like what is their end game they're like they're just trying to dominate everything and just have amazon absorb them and or someone yeah

be like okay we'll buy you now wow but that's a you know they're also one of their other oscar bid movies is in the zeitgeist right now the king King. Have you seen... Timothee Chalamet. Yeah, Timothee Chalamet and Robert Pattinson with long hair, looking hot. His bowl cut, yeah. Looks pretty solid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, is this a thirst trap? Yes.

Is it? That's what people were saying. They were? Is so-and-so picture a thirst trap? Of him with the bowl cut yeah long hair fuck twitter yeah wow uh fighting words i just i hate twitter sometimes you know you gotta look at it when you need it i just love the idea of like a thirst trap it's just like oh i'm gonna look at this oh no it's an attractive person. I got trapped. Oh, no, here I am masturbating at work.

Damn it. They got me. They got me again. Guys, I'm going to go see if this bird scooter I left around the corner is there still. Nick, it's been a pleasure having you. Thank you so much. Where can people find you and follow you? Well, the big thing is we got a new podcast that just dropped this week. Get Rich Nick, me and Nick Turner, I believe you guys have had.

Yeah, yeah. Beautiful singing voice. He is a song like a siren, a police siren. But it's called Get Rich Nick. Each week we try to find a way to make money. We did Donating Plasma the first week, and then next week we go to the horse track. Nice.

But you can find that anywhere. You need a guy for the horse track? Yeah. We win already, but I'm always down to go again. I know a few people who just know how to pick horses. This one guy I met, his name's Tom Sawyer. Yeah. He's this old guy.

He has a golden horseshoe ring and like, like sees the matrix at horse races at Santa Anita. And then this other kid I know who like sort of got pulled into that same world. He's like trying to create like a full on algorithm, like a system to pick horses. And it's actually kind of getting good. There's a, there's this story we kind of touched on, but it's like in Hong Kong, there was this guy who figured out the system. And it became so easy for him to pick horses

because at the horse track, they have the odds, and the odds are all these factors that they put in. If you listen to these guys talk about it, he's like, this is a horse that's good on a wet track. If he needs a three-day if he has three days of rest, that's where he's really firing all cylinders. But then this guy figured

out factors outside of what the racetrack factors in and it became so easy for him to win. There's this story of him winning the biggest jackpot you can win in this one race and he just threw it in a safe and never cashed it um i think i guess if you don't cash checks the hong kong government gives it to charity or something like that because i think the hong

kong government runs the the gambling thing or something like that but yeah there is right there is like these crazy systems yeah yeah yeah i've always said the hong kong government's fucking lit lady dude yeah they're the they're the good ones and the china one's the bad one yeah i think is that what it is i gotta read it it's all about uh if you're pro-democracy or not is hong kong government's pro-democracy well you know it's it depends on which it's a mixture because there's a chief executive that beijing has to approve so typically the chief executive is someone that isn't really a direct threat to beijing okay so that person is sort of you know they say it's a group of people that pick but typically it's someone that is beijing approved and then they have a legislative

council that people vote on like of the 70 seats, they vote on 40 or 30. And then the other seats are picked by pro-business. Each industry gets a seat in the Congress, basically. And so each industry basically puts a pro-China person in there because of business. And that's a better system than China. Yeah, well, yeah. And that's how bad China is. Well, China will just take you to China and make you disappear if you do something. better system than china yeah well yeah and that's how bad china is well they also i mean

take you to china and make you disappear if you do something right like obviously they had they enjoy a little more freedom to sort of speak uh freely about their feelings about government versus like in the mainland like it's just unheard of right you know like i have friends who are teaching there or have taught there and like their texts if you're asking like what's going on in china they'll like they just be like oh it's chill and then when they get back they're like i can't you can't i can't like communicate like that on my phone or like i would i would never do that yeah i'll talk to you in person yeah but like i'm not leaving a paper trail uh is there a tweet you've been enjoying oh Oh, Paul Britton had a tweet the other day.

It was something about wanting to design socks for toes. Toward toes? Yeah. Individual socks for toes? Individual socks for toes. That's a good idea. That was a very funny image. You're in conflict with my business.

Toe beanies. Toe beanies. Oh, toe beanies. Really? Shit. How far along is he with that pattern it might only be as far as the tweet uh but uh you know maybe you guys could hook up and have a whole line of toe oriented actually i do need investors because i'm currently upside down on this thing yeah miles has sunk a couple mil into this thing. If your toes are cold. I want to see the ads, like, the Netflix of toe wear.

Disrupting the feet industry. Hold on, I like that, man. Let's talk after this one. Sounds good. Miles, where can people find you, and is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yeah, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. A tweet I like is from Dana Donnelly at Dana Dononnelly, D-O-N-N-L-Y. I like a lot of her tweets.

We have to have her on the show soon. So depressing when people from your high school get married and have kids. Like, they don't even know that you can move to L.A. and date 40-year-old comedians who only have enough money on their EBT card to buy a post-sex snack for themselves. Boom. Boom. Man, if you've had EBT...

What is EBT? Come on, man. You balling that hard? Like unemployment? Get that unemployment card? Oh boy. Jack just showed his ass. I also think

it's funny that I'm at the age now where I'm a punchline as a 40-year-old comedian. Yeah, but look, you're doing well. I'm the worst type of person you'd ever want to like. As the listeners will see, we're in your ballin' ass hotel seat right now. That's right, that's right.

And you said we're cool with getting room service? Yeah, put it on my ABT card. Get rich, get rich, put it on my ABT card. A couple tweets I've enjoyed. Rocket at Tweets by Rocket tweeted, Me, I'm terrified of vowels. Therapist, why? Me, only sometimes.

Wow. It's a thinker. Steph McCann tweeted, Professionally, I'd love for what happened to cauliflower to happen to me. Steph McCann tweeted, professionally, I'd love for what happened to cauliflower to happen to me. And Paul F. Tompkins tweeted a screen cap of, like, enter a new password below. And he has, like, one letter in. And below it, the box says, very weak. Please enter a stronger password.

And he wrote, god damn, give me two seconds. It's like, fuck off man uh i saw hannibal burris do this the other day but he had it was where you like sign your name you know when you go to starbucks and right they twist the the pad around to sign your name yeah and he just like kind of colored in the entire oh right yeah and he just like kind of colored in the entire oh right yeah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram

we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we gonna ride out on today uh riding out on uh joe armin jones uh who's an artist i have i've just recently uh started listening to uh and the track is called Almost Went Too Far. It has a very retro-y vibe.

Again, just like yesterday's song. Smooth, easy, great groove. Some nice synths. But, you know, just relax. There's so much going on. Let's just listen to the song that's been playing over and over in this hotel suite. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. I'm going to use the song that's been playing over and over in this hotel suite. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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