The Daily Zeitgeist - Jokerin’ Off, Ellen Hearts Other Ultra Rich Person 10.9.19

Episode Date: October 9, 2019

In episode 491, Jack and Miles are joined by Ridiculous History and Stuff They Don't Want You To Know's Noel Brown to discuss Betsey DeVos being a fuck up, Gordon Sondland being blocked from testifying, top military officials abandoning Trump, Republicans asking Mitt Romney to primary Trump, a Joker porn spike on PornHub, China continuing to shut down any support for Hong Kong, Ellen Degeneres defending sitting next to George W. Bush at a Cowboys game, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. BETSY DEVOS COULD FACE JAIL AFTER JUDGE RULES SHE VIOLATED 2018 ORDER ON STUDENT LOANS2. No Wonder Trump Is So Desperate to Stop Gordon Sondland Testifying3. Top Military Officers Unload on Trump4. Why Trump’s Generals Have Abandoned Ship5. “ROMNEY IS THE PRESSURE POINT IN THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS”: MITT WON’T PRIMARY TRUMP—BUT HE’S TRYING TO BRING HIM DOWN6. 'JOKER' FANS JOKING UP ... Odd Surge of Porn-Related Searches7. Blizzard Suspends Hearthstone Player For Hong Kong Support, Pulls Prize Money8. Yes, that was me at the Cowboys game with George W. Bush over the weekend. Here’s the whole story.9. WATCH: Slipped Disc - Lizzy Mercier Descloux Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jackie O'Brien daily zeit it's the daily zeit it's courtesy of MS Word and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's the Daily Zeitgeist, we're second rate, and I'm Miles Gray. From LA here with the hot takes, so I reach for my headphones and I turn it up. Designated writer puts the tea in my cup, hit record when I'm faded.

People in my tweets saying, Miles Yeah, we made it it feels so good in my hood tonight The Taco Bell squirts and fries a five eyes all the zeitgangers forgot about the Popeyes You gotta get your goof on before you go get paid So come in with a pop and bring your myth up. And let me hear the Zeitgang say Woo! I was skipping around. There's a whole chorus and at a certain point the wheels do come off.

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see because... A lot of shit going on in our mentions, man. We're, you know, we're podcasting. It's a pretty big deal. It's a little boy. Was yours a suicide?

Yeah it was I did not quite nail it But that's okay I was curious if at MS Word Like I said is that MS Word as in Michael Swaim Let me know Or Microsoft Well Michael Swaim's rap name

Was MS Word spelled like that? Yeah I don't know Microsoft? Well, Michael Swain's rap name is MS Word. Was MS Word spelled like that? Yeah. Oh. I don't know. Or I could just call him and ask him, I guess. Nah, let's communicate like this. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our

third seat by the very talented host of Ridiculous History. Stuff they don't want you to know. He is an executive producer of many a podcast. He is our podcast cousin, our podcast

brethren, Mr. Noel Brown. Miles, are you okay? I was so impressed by the resume that my cold brew went to the wrong... It went down my windpipe. You know what? You know when you swallow something and it goes down the wrong hole?

What's a cold brew? I don't know what this is. Cold brew. Oh, that's called a cold brew? Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm drinking King Cobra malt liquor. That's a bold choice. It's the thing, I put in this cold brew can.

There's a lot of things you're going to learn being here in person. I know. Last time I was in my bedroom by myself with a little earbud in, hearing you on speakerphone, and then the edit came out and I was like, that sounds like I was a normal human being. Yeah. That's great. I mean, we had Ben here yesterday. Now you.

Really? Wow. I mean, yeah, eventually we'll have to make our Atlanta tour over there. Please. Yeah, we got to do it. We got to get back. The true mothership. Mm-hmm.

Well, Noel, first of all, how you doing? How's LA treating you? It's good. It's good. I saw Will Smith and his entire family in the lobby of my hotel right when I got here. So it's like the most LA thing imaginable. Yeah, like Gemini Man was premiering at the Chinese and they blocked off the whole lobby of the Roosevelt for the party.

And so we could only go in the valet entrance. And that's where Will Smith and his entire family was just posted up. Yeah, it was like Jada and Jaden. Willow was the only one that was conspicuously absent. I don't know what her date was. The best one. She's like the Tiffany Trump of the Will Smith family dynasty. Again, the best one.

Yeah. Yeah, so that was a thing that happened. Let me ask you something. Was he, anything jump out to you about his appearance? He's very tall. What the fuck, man? I found him to be quite tall. I found him to be quite short.

See, that's kind of what my friend said, but I only looked at him for a brief second because I already felt like I was in trouble just for looking at him. But it was kind of like seeing... He was quite short. Isn't he like 6'2"? That's what I thought.

He seemed tall to me. I thought he was 6'2", and then I saw him at a movie premiere years and years ago. I was on stilts, but he... I was on a penny farthing i was working my previous job juggling at movie premieres uh on stilts and he but he just seemed

like he was more like 5 10 ish 5 which so like not short like more of average height compared to saying tall i always assumed he was uh tall man. Anyways, you totally fucked my world up right there, Noel. This is our mystery show episode where rather than Jake Gyllenhaal, we're trying to get to the bottom of, is Will Smith tall? Right. Is he really tall? That is. It's all relative. There's no objective way to prove that.

Yeah, it's all relative. The Jake Gyllenhaal one, he ended up being 5'11". I forget what the number was. It wasn't as important than the ride. Right. Yeah. But that would be my mystery show if I tracked down Will Smith and go back to back with him. And be like, Starley Kine, make this show.

Make it. It was sort of like seeing a cartoon character walk into a room, though. Yeah. I will say that. Yeah. Yeah. It was interesting. Did you do a double take?

Well, my friend said, look, it's Will Smith. And I thought he was joking. And then I looked over and it was fucking Will Smith. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can still remember seeing Michael Jordan in person when I was a kid. And like, he was just in a hotel lobby or something.

And he put a cigar out on your head. Yeah, he did. He said, hey, hold this kid. And then as I was screaming, you turned to Charles Oakley and said, fuck them kids. Fuck this kid. As he walked away. No, but it's like, yeah, it's really like all of a sudden your world becomes a movie

because your brain can't like have that person in it and not be. That was like when I met The Rock at WrestleMania 14. Yeah. And I was fucked up because I was obsessed with him. And he, in my mind, he was nine feet, 10. Right. Nine feet, 10, right? Nine feet,

10 inches. He was so big out of outsized. And it's true. Like it depends, I think on the importance of the person to you. If it's just like, you know, fucking what's that guy's name? Uh,

Colin Farrell, who I saw like at a pizza place. He's a small guy. Stinks like cigarettes. Where the rock was a guy. Cigarettes. I saw him at pinks,'s, the hot dog place. Colin Farrell, he's out here eating very-

Garbage food. Garbage food, just doing his thing. So respect to you, Colin. Very talented actor who has one of the most amazing uncanny curses of just every movie. He's in tanks, unfortunately. Have you seen the thing where it's like candid pictures of celebrities eating hot dogs embarrassingly at like baseball games? Like they don't know how. Well, no, it just looks like they caught him in the worst possible unattractive moment

of eating a hot dog, which is, you know, the whole process of eating a hot dog. There is no way to elegantly eat a hot dog. Especially if you're like me, I'm pro toppings. So that shit is already falling. It's like a, it's a mess. Disaster. All I'm saying is I bet there's a Colin Farrell one out there. Oh, of course.

Have you seen Tigerland? The movie with him? That was a really good performance by him. That was kind of the one that helped really be like, this guy's doing something. If people don't believe me before you tweet at me and say he's not a good actor, watch Tigerland. I remember going into it, I thought it was going to be like what Private Ryan was for World War II, except for Dom.

No, it's not like that. And I was like, wait, this is a character-driven story. It's just very... You know, at the time, I think I was like 16 or 17. Modest film. Right. But very, you know, his performance is great. Anyways, Noel, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to tell our listeners just a few of the things we're talking about Betsy Devos Devos is an unbelievable fuck-up she's a fuck-up like my pronunciation of her name I can't get it right there's no real way to get things right I mean Davos is the evil corporation in Westworld right I should just start calling her that right Yeah, Betsy Davos. We are going to check in with- But actually, out of respect for Davos Seaworth, you know what I mean? Maybe I got that wrong, but you get the idea. Well, Davos is that billionaire meetup, too.

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, we've come right up to the precipice of saying there's no wrong way to eat Reese's a couple of times, and it's just in the back of my mind, so I had to itch that scratch. We're going to check in with the whistleblower scandal. There was an Atlantic article last week that is becoming important in my mind, at least again, where they spoke with the generals, the people who run the U.S. military about what it's like to work for Donald Trump.

Like on the record? No, it was basically, I mean, there's only so many of them. Right, right. So it's like, but. Like the Joint Chiefs or? It was just, I don't know. It was the dude who wrote Black Hawk Down. Mark Bowden?

Yeah. Yeah. So he like writes about the U.S. military and like has connections in the U.S. military. Right, yep. And he, you know, just spoke with all sorts of different people in military leadership about kind of getting a general. Is it Bowden or Bowden?

I don't know. I do it because of Coach Bobby Bowden of Florida State. Right, yes. The God. In that part of the world, yes. We're going to ask the question if tides are shifting on how people feel about the impeachment. We're going to talk about whether tides are shifting on how people feel about the impeachment. We're going to talk about whether tides are shifting on how people feel about jerking off to the Joker. Apparently they

are shifting way up. We're going to talk about China continuing to bring the hammer down on people who do fun for a living. We're going to talk about Ellen being pals with George W. Bush. We're going to talk about San Francisco rent and how it has led to the invention of some virtual restaurants. But first, Noel, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? It's Joker sign because there's all these like great like signs that are like fake signs that are making the rounds about like not letting themselves like go into the joker

movie so i've been really enjoying those your balls are backed up with come yes if you haven't shot ropes into a woman in the last year that's yeah i just saw like a couple that were more like no single men i didn't realize the fine print was like. The best execution was one that like starts out like a sign that you get like no single men. Right. And you're like, okay. And it has the logo of the theater chain,

but like as you read the fine print, it gets more and more balls backed up with cum shooting ropes. I think it was the arc light. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like in LA. Some rabble rouser. Very funny.

What is something you think is overrated? I think the Blair Witch Project is overrated. What? Yeah. My favorite movie? I'm sorry, guys. I recently revisited it. I remember digging it when I was a kid,

but I just remember so much being made of the creepy ending where the person's just facing the wall. And I went back and rewatched and it's just the person facing the wall. i understand what what i think because i missed something like well it was the the myth around the provenance of the footage that really but separated from that it's not a terrible it's not good no and you know it's funny because i bought into it but i i remember as like what was that 99 or something yeah yeah i think uh like when it came out and

that scene happened i was like what the fuck was that? Like I remember immediately being like, nah, fuck this. But everyone was like, the ending is so scary and I don't understand. Yeah, I'm like,

was the dude was in the corner? Yeah. I found it scary at the time. You did? I have not gone back and watched it because I suspect what you're saying is true

and that it's all, it's 100% context. But you guys, I studied film and sometimes it's about what you don't show. Oh, okay. That's cool. I can get behind that.

I think you dropped your jewel. Also, shout out to Blair High School, I think, which is named after the Blair Witch Project in Silver Spring, Maryland. It's named after the Blair Witch Project? Steve Francis' old high school. Damn. Or Blair is like the Blair Woods. The Blair Woods.

And with my information, I know from that region of Maryland, connected. Yeah. I can't imagine the woods are so big that people are getting lost in there a lot. No, I think for people who lived around there too are like, okay.

Yeah. Whatever y'all want. Speaking of hindsight about movies, I've been doing this fun thing with my 10-year-old daughter where I've been watching bad 80s horror movies because she's just old enough where she just doesn't give a shit. She's not scared because the production value is so low that it's just a fun thing we can

She's like, it's corn syrup. It's not even good blood. We watched the 90s version of It, the TV movie. Oh, yeah. And it scared the shit out of me when I was a kid. I had nightmares and couldn't sleep for days. And she just laughed the whole way through. It made me feel like a giant pussy. It was awesome. She literally called me a I was a kid. I had nightmares and couldn't sleep for days, and she just laughed the whole way through and made me feel like a giant pussy. It was awesome. She literally

called me a giant pussy. It hit me. Wow, 10 years old. She's tough, man. But no, when we watched Child's Play, the original, and that's a lot of fun. If you haven't seen that in a long time, highly recommend it. She's like, put on Ichi the Killer now. And you're like, what the fuck? He's got a new movie coming out, though.

Takashi Miike. Ichi the Killer, though? The guy that directed Ichi the Killer. Has she seen Home Alone 2? Because I feel like once you've seen that, you can't look at Tim Curry the same. That's a good point. No. She's seen Home Alone 1. She's never seen Lost in New York.

Or seen Tim Curry's performance in Congo as Herkimer Hermolka, formerly of Romania. What is that accent? Herkimer Hermolka, formerly of Romania. What is that accent? Herkimer Hermolka, formerly of Romania. She does that? And even Delroy Lindo has a weird African accent. He's like, stop eating my sesame cake. What? There's this moment where Tim Curry's nervously eating all these sesame cakes, and Delroy

Lindo's supposed to be this African general, and he's clocking him eating his sesame cake, and he's like, stop eating my sesame cake. See, I was of the age that I, like Jurassic Park came out, I read all of Michael Crichton's books, but I was like over it by the time the movies came out. So I don't know all these lines. Crichton hipster over here? Yeah, I was a Crichton hipster.

Yeah, exactly. I didn't even see Sphere the movie, and I was like, when I was a kid, I was like, Sphere is actually Crichton's best. Uh, it's better. That's funny. I remember actually hearing that take from people who were like, it's actually like the books way better.

And it's actually the best thing. Yeah. I said nobody ever about it. Right. Yeah. It was just like the most expensive B movie ever. It really is just absolute trash. It was great marketing for pop tents.

And it was also like, it was like a burger King tie-in. They had like the cups, they give the commemorative cups and everything. And I remember that distinctly. I mean, Amy, want raindrop drink. That's what's said for a martini. Yeah.

No, totally. What is something you think is underrated? That's what's in my brain, y'all. I've been really liking shuffleboard lately. I think it sort of gets a bad rap as like an old people, like retirement community game. But there's something really satisfying about the

weight of that little puck or whatever that you push. Yeah, just being way more coordinated than your geriatric opponents who smash him out of the park and be like, keep up, Gerald! That's exactly right. It's funny, I did shuffleboard for the first time on I forget where. Oh, in Santa Monica, there's an official

shuffleboard park, because that's how much they invest in the elderly in Santa Monica, there is an official shuffleboard park because that's how much they invest in the elderly in Santa Monica. Good. And I remember trying that for the first time, and I was like, this is going to be lame. And when you actually start getting the feel for it. So there's a ground version, and there's a tabletop version, right? Right, right, right.

So I'm talking about the tabletop version. Oh, like with the wax shavings? With the little wax, yeah, or sand or whatever. It's like you push this kind of weighted metal puck. I'm talking old school shuffleboard like I do with Gerald. Geriatric center. That's the real senior center. That's only on the decks of like cruise ships.

Yeah, right, exactly. That's big. But yeah, I see that more and more at bars now. It's a thing, yeah, for sure. It's been slowly. I feel like maybe it was more prevalent on the East Coast or something. Yeah, that's been a huge game. Yeah, because slowly now like west coast bars are doing the thing where it's like yeah we'd have games now right like that other one with the ring and the string and the hook that's like another

bar game you see all the time you know i don't know this hook ring ring hook it's like a fucking it's like a long ass string with like a brass ring attached to it and there's like a hook on the other side and you're trying to like swing it on. So it connects to the hook. It sounds incredible, but I'm not, it's just dumb ass games that drunk people can play for hours.

Cornhole. Do they have cornhole here? Yeah. If you go to like angel city brewery, they got Cornwall in the brewery. You can play. Yeah. Cornhole's a lot of fun.

Yeah. What is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know, to be false. Well, um, you know,

there's this whole idea of Napoleon complex, which probably gets a lot of play now with Trump and everything. But it turns out Napoleon wasn't really that short. He had this nickname, the little corporal, and his height was recorded in French feet, which was five feet and two inches. But that's actually five foot seven in English feet. So he was actually just a little bit taller than an average Frenchman.

Ooh. Yeah. Wait, what's French feet? I don't know. I got it from the Atlantic. You think it was taken from like some king's foot back then? That's a really good point. It probably is.

It's just their foot. They're like, well, our king had a bigger foot, homie. So when I say six feet, six English feet. Oh, so units of yeah units measurement in france before the french revolution so they had a different uh set of of measurements got it completely had to do with uh charlemagne oh that's all i got charlemagne the god yeah that's interesting though because that it yeah i think that was started by people trying to like slander him or you know trying to just shit on him and so like, here, we'll start a rumor that he's a tiny, tiny man.

And it just was never true. No, and it's funny, though. This thing just came out on The Independent. The headline speaks for itself. Napoleon's penis size confirmed. Channel 4 documentary calls the artifact, quote, very small. Oh, really? So that's, you know, they're still trying to slander the man.

Why are they allowed to do that exactly wait that was a british outlet that was a british yeah it's a show called dead famous dna where they still england just yeah fucking with the french being like ouch guess what homie we exhumed your old leader right checked out his dead mummy dick right are there a lot of mummies with huge dicks? Dude, if your dick is big still, you're a mummy, you must be packing. Yes. Even in the dehydrated state of death. Right.

That's wild. Anyway, welcome to the Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. I'm trying to think about other shitty rumors that got started about people that stuck. But I know the let them eat cake uh marie antoinette thing was actually like made up basically it was like the rabble outsides version of her but she never said that isn't like caligula one of those people too that there's a

ton of misinformation about also like there's because i remember when we were doing like historical flexes, we were thinking about it, and I was like, wait, half of these are just bullshit wind-up stories from people after Caligula. Right. He was so dumb, he tried to fight the sea, man. Who's the leader who fucked a horse, allegedly?

That wasn't Caligula? Catherine the Great. I don't know. I always thought it was. Every weird animal sex story assumes Caligula. If you're hearing that a person in power did something monstrous sexually that seems like possibly physically impossible, that probably was started by their political rivals. Well, like, oh, wait, wasn't his horse going to be a senator or something? Yes, that's what it was.

Or was it Nero? I think it was Nero. Or maybe Nero. That did the horse senator. See, look how we went from talking about Roman leaders to mummy penises. It's just. Yeah. Anyways.

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And we're back and betsy devos is an unbelievable fuck up miles take it away all right thanks a lot miles gray here back to you the older sister of wannabe general eric prince and current secretary of education has perhaps landed herself some jail time maybe well maybe it's hard to know because she's a powerful white person uh so jail doesn't necessarily come for these people but here's the deal okay so she's in hot water for basically right now she could possibly go to jail or it's possible that she could be held in contempt of court why so corinthian college is like a predatory for-profit college that was in all kinds of fuckery. Kamala Harris even went after them.

And they basically, I think this is in 2015, they eventually filed for bankruptcy protection that year. And the federal government also ruled that year that as many as like over 330,000 former students could be entitled to have their debts canceled under the borrower defense to repayment program. Then Betsy DeVos comes in and you know, she doesn't, she's like, come on, we don't need to protect consumers. That's sort of been her whole theme, right? She has, there has been numerous attempts from her department of education to limit the scope of this program. And also like ignoring over 160,000 applications that were made for loan forgiveness. So people had to sue because they're like, uh, hello, this isn't supposed to happen. They're bankrupt. We've already determined that legally they're not going to come after us for this money.

But they were still trying to collect. So when they sued, all these documents came out that showed that the Department of Education was still going after people despite a fucking court order. And the presiding judge over this is just incensed. This quote sort of says it all. It says, at best, it is gross negligence. At worst, it's an intentional flouting of my order.

So, you know, I don't know. Sounds like the Trump administration. Yeah. Again, it's hard to know how much is actually like negligence and how much is like, oh, I don't know. I'm not used to getting in trouble and I'm sort of used to just doing whatever I want. Right.

Is that different? And now that I have more power than I ever did, like I'm going to do even more. What I. Yeah. So, so now there's going to be another lawsuit that the judge has approved to go forward against Betsy DeVos.

And in that one could ultimately decide just how negligent she was, if they find her to be in contempt. Is there a sense that she's in cahoots with Corinthian College or has something to gain from doing this? Is she just being dumb? I don't know exactly what the sort of connections are between her and Corinthian. It just sort of seems more of like, I'm sure she's probably friends with somebody who works there who's very wealthy right because they all that's the we're going to talk later about ellen and george w bush and like that sort

of class solidarity of the ultra wealthy and like that is that is real you guys they are consistent they are loyal they will find ways to unfuck the people who are also ultra wealthy because that's how you both maintain your wealth and ensure that it's protected. They look out for each other. And so, I mean, if you look at a situation where you feel like there's no oversight that's going to hold your hand to the fire. And the situation is either 160,000 poor to middle class people or like one ultra wealthy person. Betsy DeVos, a ultra wealthy person is going to look out for the ultra wealthy person unless you are paying a lot of attention and threatening to arrest. Yeah. And what's wild is because of this failure to actually like

honor the court order, a lot of people were getting like their tax refunds and like wages garnished so it's just what the fuck man again it's just another indirect uh hit at working people yeah i forgot to uh add this to the doc today but speaking of taxes did you see that uh chart yes like the taxation of like different wealth different income strata uh over time and it's like the most wealthy in the country are now paying less than anyone else as like a percentage of their earnings because they have so many loopholes right they have so many they can pay people to. And they have so many, they can pay people to, you know, just lawyer the shit out of their taxes. Right.

Until they don't have to pay anything. And the IRS was even admitting, they're like, it's easier to audit people with less income than it is the wealthy. So that's why we audit poor people more. Right. Like just plain and simple. It's like, it just takes a lot of people to do that. Right.

And they have more lawyers than us. And it doesn't, It just takes a lot of people to do that. Right, and they have more lawyers than us. It's not in America's interest to have the IRS be super lawyered up because that would interfere with people's money. What do you think about these eight years of tax returns that they're demanding from Trump that's obviously never going to happen in a million years?

I mean, I know that there's a judge in New York that was basically saying you can no longer act like because you're the president, you can't we can't see this information. Right. At least in relation to the hush money case he's involved in. But I'm sure if the taxes were filed properly, it'd be very telling. I'm sure if anything, if they see them, they're going to see a lot of weird shit that would only lead to other things. Right. But I mean, clearly that's, that's a huge piece of this puzzle to understand just sort of how his money's tied up and where it's coming in and going out.

Yeah. And I, you know, it's again, very similar to the Betsy DeVos thing in that it's the law just not applying to them. Like they just act like it doesn't apply. And so does our next story

about the whistleblower scandal oh okay uh short dog so edward sondland uh ambassador to the eu because he gave trump a huge campaign donation a million dollars over a million dollars absolutely no background in diplomacy whatsoever just a wealthy guy who gave him a big campaign uh contribution uh he is also the guy you know him from those texts where um actually let should we just read the exact transcript he's the guy who was like uh we shouldn't be saying this over text message right he after kurt volker testified which he completely went against the wishes of the State Department. He's like, I don't give a fuck. I'm going to testify. Do something. Gave some texts over and we find out that Edward Sondland, this guy is also central to all of this as well.

And he's really put laid out the quid pro quo scheme on fucking wax text messages to Bill who was another uh diplomat uh from the one who was like not appointed by the no career person who's like it was his like ukraine policy like he's like i'm here to talk about this and this back and forth i mean when you look when you actually just read this back and forth you understand why the president and the state department was like no we have to block his testimony because he gives up the ghost in it. I'll be Bill Taylor. You be Gordon Sondland.

Pretend these are texts. Right. So I am the career diplomat and I'll just say, the message to the Ukrainians and Russians we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have already shaken their faith in us, thus my nightmare scenario. Counting on you to be right about this interview, Gordon.

Bill, I never said I was, quote, right. I said we are where we are, and believe me, we have identified the best pathway forward. Let's hope it works. As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. Okay. Cut to five hours later. Before all these exchanges were happening within minutes

of each other, fucking Gordon Sondland waits five hours with this very interesting sounding response. Clearly lawyered up. Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump's intentions. The president has been crystal clear. No quid pro quos of any kind okay the president is trying to evaluate whether ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that president zelinski promised during his campaign i suggest we stop the back and forth by text if you still have concerns i recommend you give lisa kennett or ask a call to discuss them directly. Thanks. Yes, yes, yes. So, wow. Let's stop discussing this.

Are you discussing crimes on the phone? Yeah. Yeah. Uh-oh. It's basically the drug dealer from Pulp Fiction. Yeah. Wrong number. Wrong number. Prank caller, prank caller.

Yeah, so that dude clearly knows something at the very least, knows what was happening in these conversations. There was another one where he was like, call me. And then like there was apparently a conversation and then the texts resume and it's clear that they've basically discussed the quid pro quo. So, I mean, Bill Taylor is not going to be able to testify under oath without either fucking the Trump administration or perjuring himself. Yeah.

I mean, just that five-hour gap is really great because the tone just changed so instantly when he literally says, just says out to you, you're withholding security assistance for help with a political campaign. Yeah. That's when he said, oh, shit. Right.

Because even in the line, yeah, the president has been crystal clear. Like, you're saying the thing out loud that you need to be like the public, you know, sort of take on what is happening. And then Trump just continues to like mock the whole idea of the proceedings anyway with his Twitter response. Right. Right. Like what do you say? He's a really good man and a great American.

He says, I would love to send I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really great man and great American to testify. love to send ambassador sonlin a really great man and great american to testify uh but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court where republicans rights have been taken away because that's all completely understood right right that's where republicans rights have been taken away yeah uh-huh so these damn kangaroos and now he's talking about like let's impeach nancy pelosi and it's like does he even know what any of this means? His whole tactic is whatever you're saying to me I'm going to just say back to you. Doesn't matter what it is if it doesn't make sense.

It's like you're in contempt of court. You're in contempt of court. Like what? You can't impeach me. I impeach you. Yeah. I'm not even. I hate peach. So fuck you. But yeah that's the same thing and like Rachel Maddow was talking about this on her show too, about how he will repeat words he's being accused of and give them, make them meaningless. Like fake news was the first thing that people

were like, this is actually fake news is benefiting the president. Then he became fake news. It's all this fake news, the fake news media. They're trying to slander me. It's the fake news. And it may basically made fake news meaningless to a lot of people. Even though it was at first we're like this is actually a problem we're talking about you know intentional deception of people through clickbait or whatever i mean obviously a lot of people had their eye on ad revenue but at the same time like that's one of his tactics and even with collusion he was saying well they were they were the collusion right and then the repetition just sort of slowly drained it you know the meaning out of the word. Yeah. And now it's corruption. He's so good at just talking endlessly and saying absolutely nothing that he's essentially like robbed words of their meaning.

Yeah. Like in rhetoric in general. He'd be a great podcast guest to be honest. Oh, yeah. Just hear him bloviate. Just like, go do a quick hour on this one topic. Right. The Yankees.

Great. But politicians, like I noticed that I find myself fast forwarding any time a politician is speaking on any podcast, and it's because they're not real. It's almost like listening to somebody read a statement from their brain. Stacey Abrams, I think, is one of the only people who I've heard speak who it's actually worth listening to her speak. Right. Elizabeth Warren kind of has that, too.

I think all the people who are not from this traditional political class or like the, you know, the media trained corporatocracy thugs, you know, they're, you know. But Trump is like is a different version of that where he's just like, like we said, it's jazz. He's an old lonely guy. Yeah. Who wants people to talk to him. But that method of accuse them of whatever they're accusing you of, you know, is both our first instinct when we're in elementary school and say whatever we are is rubber and whatever you say, bounce off. I forget it. I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say, bounce off me, forget it. I'm rubber, you're glue.

Whatever you say, bounce off me, stick to you. And I always thought that was stupid. Well, turns out it is the matrix. It is the code to hack the universe. Oh, I could have been president. Yeah. So there's this Atlantic article that, moving on from the whistleblower thing, sort of,

there's an Atlantic article that came out last week that I think is extremely relevant again because of what happened with Turkey and Trump basically saying we're going to withdraw from northern Syria and then coming back and being like, we'll destroy Turkey if they try anything, even though it was pretty clear that he had agreed to withdraw because of Turkey. Anyways, in light of all of that shit, his pullout method, pullout, putting it back in, it's worth taking a look back at sort of what these generals had to say about why he is uniquely frustrating to work for. And this author who, like I said, is the guy who wrote Blackhawk Down, just a trusted journalist when it comes to the military, starts off in the first couple of paragraphs saying, in 20 years of writing about the military, I've never heard officers in high

positions express such alarm about a president. And they identify four problems that really it's like them trying to systematize and like make official these things that are just like absurd. One, he disdains expertise. We knew that. Yeah. No problem. He just disdains expertise. And also, I think even if you pull, if you zoom out even further, he does not like military people. Right.

Because they see him for what he is because in the back of his mind he's still a draft dodger and i think he's always had this weird beef with like anyone who's enlisted well but he likes generals generals he respects but he doesn't like nom vets who are coming by to say like hi agent orange really fucking harmed our lives irreversibly and he's like no you're talking about something else that wasn't from the movie apocalypse now right yeah remember that little showdown remember when he was like i like people that didn't that don't get captured yeah right exactly like coming from him i mean that's just yeah god sick burn so the author points out

that what trump and his supporters refer to as the deep state in the world of national security is actually a vast reservoir of knowledge and global experience that presidents probably shouldn't be ignoring. And it's not like these are like the security state is not like a bunch of progressives. They are typically the most conservative people in the government, but they are too progressive apparently for Trump. They also just kind of compare Trump to military officials who've been in the war rooms with George Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump say that with regards to temperament and policy preferences, Bush and Obama were actually remarkably alike, which, bad news for Obama apologists.

Yeah, well, they both didn't care if innocent people died. Right. Uh-oh! But Trump, meanwhile, just ignores everything and basically is... This sentence is pretty good. Despite commanding the most sophisticated

intelligence-gathering apparatus in the world, the president prefers to be briefed by Fox News and then arrives at decisions without input from others. Right. Which is like a weird feedback loop too, right? Because they're reporting shit that they think he will like and then he's getting his news from them and they're getting their news from him.

I don't even understand the way it works. But I think that is I think that's about what it is. It's how celebrities like he's our first celebrity president in the sense that like everybody around him is telling him exactly what he wants to hear. He doesn't have like what's that. And he he's not willing to acknowledge that he doesn't know what he doesn't know. Yeah. The next weak point is he trusts only his own instincts. Gotta go with my gut. Yeah.

And the other one is he resists coherent strategy. Well, and that's where he's completely failing as a commander, right? Like to not, to basically just put the lives of these soldiers at risk based on a whim, not even consulting properly to know that the bad side of this is the stakes are absolutely life and death for these people that you're just like, I don't know, whatever the Turkish president wants. Well, he has no sense of like personal sacrifice. He just can't conceive of that.

And I can't imagine that for people who support him and also really do have family or have served themselves would say, this is actually a good strategy. Like someone who is just so unwilling to even look at the context of these decisions, full steam ahead. But they go back to this thing that happened December 19th, 2018, when he... I thought they were talking about actually what was happening in the news, like at the beginning of this week. But he said, America's defeated ISIS, time to bring the troops home from Syria. And it was actually in the midst of like one of the most critical fights that America was having with ISIS. And, you know, they needed a consistent troop presence to, like, keep the momentum going. And he was like, no, we're gonna pull them out. And it was like, it was just so out of line with what was actually happening on the ground.

point to the iran thing and just how close we came to going to a enormous war like that last second decision he made oh yeah to not yeah launch an attack right they point out that like the fact that we were also relieved obscured the gravity of his original decision and how close he came to basically starting a war without any end point that would have been more costly and cost more lives than the Iraq War. It's like the same strategy a kid has when they're just going to hit a beehive with a stick. Yeah. It's like, I'm going to smash that shit.

And there's no plan for after when it hits the ground and the bees come after you. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I'm going to let me fucking smash this beehive yeah but the generals were saying like a you know they it's it's worth reading this article because this general is just like sitting there like think talking about like how this almost happened over a drone right like that is just he couldn't like even wrap his mind around it. Anyways, Miles, is any of this changing anything? I don't know. I don't know how you say that.

I mean, there's a lot of, look, the polls is something that Trump is really looking at when I think also is feeding this kind of behavior too, right? Because he's made it clear, like he's doing the thing where he's like, you'll never impeach me, but is also obsessed with, and like his fear of impeachment is very real. He even told like Republicans, like he didn't want it on his resume. Right. Like, okay. Just like that. But he could just leave it off. No one will remember. That's how resumes

work. I'm like, have you ever written a resume, sir? I don't think so. You're one of, you're that class of person who's been able to get jobs without ever even being able to type. So right now the polls are moving again. Right now the support for impeachment is at 58% with 49% supporting removal from office. And that number has not been shrinking. And if you compare stats from a poll that was in July from before any of this controversy, the total movement towards impeachment has been growing. Support growing for 25 points among Democrats, 21 points among Republicans, and 20 points among independents. And then another thing to point out is his rating among Republicans actually dropped four points since September. His approval rating. Yeah,

his approval rating, sorry. Which has been pretty much locked in place. In the 90s. Yeah. But this finally went to 87%. Wow. Which is a little interesting. And I think, again, when you look at all of this stuff, too, and this latest just complete disaster of a decision to try and pull out of Syria, you're starting to see the GOP all suddenly in unison be like, no, that's bad. That's bad. We finally have a thing we can speak up on to criticize the president because we don't want to. No one wants to dip their foot in the impeachment water.

But listen to this unhinged tone of this tweet. I thought it was a joke. I saw a screenshot of it and I thought it was like doctored. Right. Because as I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the economy of turkey parentheses i've done before uh-huh it's you're it's he's that's where he's at man he's like

pointing the level that he's having to now look at himself to weather this storm is now like oh i'm an omniscient god yeah and that's where i think we're entering that phase of this before it's he's omniscient, omnipotent. Who knows what else he believes? Yeah. And so now what's happened is you're starting to see like Tucker Carlson over the weekend basically described the president's actions as indefensible. Which actions?

All this, this shit around the whistleblower shit. Yeah. Oh, really? I thought it was just the military thing. No, he's been saying, no, like this is, this is before even the military stuff. Like if it was on Friday or something, he penned it and was saying No, he's been saying, no, like this is before even the military stuff. Like if it was on Friday or something, he penned it and was saying like it's indefensible. Judge Napolitano on Fox is saying this is impeachable shit.

And now there's Mitt Romney who he actually might, I don't know, he's starting to, he might have some more power going into this impeachment process because you know if you remember his whole arc right when trump was being uh when he was running for the nomination he was like this guy's a fucking con man and he's like and the gop will suffer greatly for embracing this man then he had to fucking change his tune real quick when trump won he like begged at a dinner he's like can i be secretary of state and haha was re, it was Rex Tillerson. And I can't believe that was a thing that felt like eons ago when Rex Tillerson was the secretary of state. So now that Romney's in the Senate, he's been very, very, well, somewhat vocal, at least being the most critical I've heard from people on the right about the Trump or about the president's actions. And they're saying, you know, according to this like Vanity Fair article, talking to a few GOP donors who are really fed up with Trump, quote, donors have in recent days called the Utah senator and encouraged him to run against Trump

in the primary. There is a half billion dollars on the sidelines from guys who are fed up with Trump, a GOP donor said. And there are some polls that say in a hypothetical primary, Romney beats Trump 57 to 37, but he's not interested in that at all. I think he, according to this article too, he's a two-time loser when it comes to president shit. He's not feeling it. He's the wrong guy. And he thinks he can actually be a little more of an impact in the Senate.

So I don't know if like, this is his like revenge arc for it to be like, no, I can do some damage from here because I can sway moderates like Susan Collins or Ben Sasse, those kinds of. And also he won't let himself lose a primary, right? Like they're,

the States are going to change the law. Yeah. And also I think he just realizes to the base, like he's going to be going up against Trumpers and like he's not even interested in that. It scares me a little bit for there to be like a Romney contingent that is involved with getting him out of office because Romney is like just such the ultra wealthy guy who represents like ultra wealthy interests of the Republican Party. And if you have that being the thing that is ultimately responsible for bringing him down, then Trump can appeal to his populism and just be like, yeah, it's a class war. Can't believe it. Look what they're doing to the working people.

Right. You know what I mean? How much does a gallon of milk cost? It's like 42 bucks, right? uh fuck uh over on fox news uh on their satellite uh radio station uh they're just talking about how this is totally backfiring on the democrats uh that impeachment well impeachment uh if they if they vote to impeach i can promise you this miles if they vote to impeach no democratic house member wants to do that because then everybody's just going to vote him out of office because they support the president and it's what's the point of even impeaching him because when it gets to the senate mitch mcconnell is not even going to bring it up for a vote we'll see i mean the problem is though too the democrats are all trying to do that trade deal that uh canada america mexico deal uh like because they want

to have something done because they're trying to shield themselves from this criticism it's like they're so focused on this i don't understand why they're doing this because it's the the evidence is there you should really begin to do this impeachment process like properly but now they're doing the thing like well let's maybe make a deal on this other thing too simultaneously. I mean, if they can get it done, fuck it. But I think the timing though, like they need to actually move. Like they're too worried again because this move is born out of the idea that the people that the boogeymen that Fox News raises are like, well, you better watch out because these Dems in these other places, they're going to get fucking clobbered. I mean, I don't know if the numbers are quite there to support that theory more so that they want to give these vulnerable or people who have recently flipped districts the cover to say, well, we passed this deal too.

And I think also, but when you look at just how the momentum is growing and growing for this, it's not nearly as unpopular as they're even beginning to think now. I think that's the thing they're not weighing. It's still like this sort of like six months ago mentality of like, oh, well, like less than 40% of people are supporting of it. Right. Yeah. Just something to think about. Something to think about while we take this break. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.

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That is the question. To be or not to be? Why y'all trying to watch the Joker smash? Apparently this happens every time a comic book movie comes out. or not to be while trying to watch the Joker. Apparently this happens every time a comic book movie

comes out people see a movie and then immediately want to watch that character fuck somebody else. I guess. This movie in particular

seems like the most disturbing. I don't know like that it is the least sexy movie I think I've ever seen. There's a part

where he there's like a love interest ish part that was like distractingly out of place to me I was just like what the fuck is happening why would he's like not regarding him in any sexual capacity just doesn't even seem to play into like the themes of the movie right but apparently I think this ties into an overall uh sort of fetish of clowns and like harley quinn well i mean there's also that cycle of violence and sexual release that you use to radicalize people too right like i mean not to like read into it like that but you get so fucking worked up and then there's like you're like oh i get my violence and i get my sexual release

yeah or there are people who are just like i really want to see the joker smash because this movie there's something about this character that is so hot to me yeah but like pornhub says they they track like what people are searching for like they right track your fantasies does that mean they like put out a call for like content that fits this shit or like how is there all of a sudden so much joker porn well no it's just that people were looking for it on Pornhub. It doesn't necessarily exist yet. they're just like,

yeah, so on, no, the thing you have to understand, all possible porn exists. That's also true. Yeah. But they say

over 741,000 searches involving the word Joker in the first four days following the film's release. Yeah. And then the first, the biggest day was Sunday when they saw 291,628 searches for a clown getting down.

So is this like presumably before or after people have seen the movie? I don't know. See, that's hard to know too. Right. Are some people like, man, before I see this, I got to jerk off to the porn version and then I'll see the movie or else I'll be distracted. Yeah, then I won't get distracted by how much I want to fuck the Joker. Right.

And then after they see this very like bummery kind of non-sexy movie, then they're like, okay, this is my thing. They're like, all right, I'm into this. Yeah. Let me see if there's porn. Did you like it? I was, I still don't know how I feel about it. It gave them nightmares.

It gave me nightmares. Yeah. For like the, like literal, like political nightmares. So I guess it was effective. I think it tapped into something for sure. But did it make you horny, baby? Nice. Best Austin Powers quote in years.

He loved it. Michael Moore loved it. Really? He was praising it. He said it's a masterpiece and that it's dangerous if you don't see it. That's what he said i do think it's worth seeing just like as a cultural moment like i read this comic felix bitterman from a chopper trap house like wrote a review of it for one of the blogs and was just like it's a mediocre, nothing movie that people are reacting to because they just, their brains are broken. But I didn't find, maybe my brain is broken,

but I didn't find it to be like pointless or like a mediocre movie. I found it to be like, I get what the significance is. I don't know if it's, I don't know how, like there's, there's huge political questions tied up in like how I feel about it overall. Got it. Yeah. Well, let's not distract from the fact that Harley Quinn is actually the most searched character, video game, comic, or otherwise of all time. Video game, movie, or comic ever searched. Yeah.

Higher than like Jessica Rabbit, higher than that other rabbit. Lola Bunny? Lola Bunny. Lola Bunny. I mean, some things are pure. But yeah, I think cartoons are not going to work. I feel like Lara Croft. I wonder who's number two. Yeah.

To Harley Quinn. Lara Croft? Batwoman? Catwoman? Ratwoman? Or like, yeah, keep going. Datwoman? Mm-hmm.

Datfan? Yeah, Datfan. From Last Comic Standing? Probably. All right. woman or like yeah keep going that woman that fan yeah from last comic standing probably uh all right let's talk about china uh china we love china moving we love china thank you so much no so the you know china's hammer continues to fall on anybody who vocalizes any support for the protesters in Hong Kong. Trey Parker and Matt Stone also got their episode banned, and then they just doubled down with the most fuck you apology. Did they really? We love China. They're just like the NBA. We welcome Chinese censors into our homes and into our hearts. And Xi Jinping does not look like Winnie the Pooh.

Yeah. Adam Silver issued a second statement supporting his team and players' right to express themselves while standing by their fans in China. And China basically wasn't having it and canceled two games there. two games there uh so that's a double l for adam silver and that like he he tried to like have it both ways and you can't look like an asshole and then china uh wasn't having it anyways uh but meanwhile blizzard uh didn't even fuck around and pretend they supported free speech a player in a post-game interview voiced support for the Hong Kong protesters calling it the revolution of our time. And he was immediately banned for a year, vacated of all his prize money.

And the people interviewing him during the post-game interview, who it should be noted, ducked when he said what he said. Yeah, as if he said, hold on, I have Ebola. Right, like they jumped under the table uh they were afraid of being guilty by association they were fired they were and they were so they were they knew they were gonna announce it so that's that's where we're at with china and they're for a player of a game called hearthstone yes hearthstone uh and really Yes, Hearthstone. Truly radical. Super producer DJ Danil was saying that the numbers on how many people watch streaming video games on the national championship. Worlds, dude.

The worlds. For League of Legends, bro. For LOL, League of Ledge. The numbers are wild, dude. Yeah, it was like 2 million people at peak streaming it if you take China out of the equation. Streaming it concurrently, 2 million people live streaming. Without China numbers? Without China.

And then you add China? 207 million. Okay, cool. I guess that's a... Can we eat that check? Right. Can we not? I mean, that's really all it is, right?

Every company that does business with china like over this kind of shit they're showing at the end of the day like we're really concerned with that revenue stream even if it means like we're gonna punish american citizens for standing with a pro-democracy movement yeah like what the fuck and i think there's eventually right i feel like american consumers are going to start to be like what the who's this for like is this we're america like we you have fans here in the u.s too we're like we've culturally we feel like we can say this kind of shit right or we can speak out in support of things like this and it's funny like you know i wonder at a certain point if there will be a company who's like you know what we don't need your money right but i don't know if that's the case because it's such a huge chunk of business

that it would really require people to like gut check themselves and be like, is money really the important thing? I just don't think that happens. Yeah, exactly. And then that's all we see around us is it goes, that's right, money is our God. So if they're threatening our God, we will do whatever we have to do. I mean, I think, you know, that's why the upcoming generation like drastically prefers socialism to capitalism. Yeah. generation like drastically prefer socialism to capitalism yeah like i was listening to uh 50 year old bill simmons and chuck closterman like talk about that fact and they were just like

blown away like almost talking about it like it was like a joke to them like how could that possibly be the case that that meant well here's the difference right the boomers gen xers even millennials to a certain extent we grew up in a time where we saw a lot of expansion, a lot of good times. Fucking if you were a kid in the 80s, chance if you were middle class, parents were doing well. Right. That's a different environment. Like we're in. Oh, shit's possible. Cut to now. There's this nihilism about the economy and what the future holds for you. So your your tune is very different.

We're not bopping to the same music as them. Right. And you're like, what the heck? They don't like this shit? And there is a built-in duality where America versus communism, and communism was connected to socialism, and communism was proven not to work, and therefore it's like I think a lot of people just had it kind of solved in their mind at that point and are like, wait, why are all these kids into social work? We even see it in Kylie Jenner's Instagram recently.

She was flexing with all her fucking Range Rovers and like muscle supercars and shit. And people in the comments are like, we get it. What the fuck? They're like, what is this? They're like, that one car could have saved a fucking village. And it was weird that that's sort of what is in the comments of something like this where normally people are worshiping celebrity

and now it's like that tone changing because people are like, yo, I'm never going to afford that, so fuck you. Right. I have a 10-year-old daughter and she's constantly refusing people. She's constantly calling people out

for weird flexes like that. Right, right. She uses those words. It's gross. It's just not cute anymore. Right. She's 10 and she gets it. Yeah. And she and she's just over and she gets the political climate too in her own way and is just like so fed up with this kind of stuff when she's not like a bummed

out kid or anything but it's just you can definitely see it shifting right right is it cool if we have your daughter on the podcast oh she'd be great yeah yeah no she's so cool i love the idea of a 10 year old being like being like, not cute anymore, guys. It's like, oh, you guys are into podcasting, huh? Huh. You guys are my dad's friends? Oh, boy. She's way cooler than me.

She'd be great. Ellen. Ellen V. DeGeneres. Uh-huh. Was spotted by football fans palling it up with George W. Bush, and they all thought it was cool, but not so cool. So people noticed this

and started making the rounds on social media. Not only was she sitting next to him, they were talking and laughing. And she got some angry tweets and she also got one nice tweet, which she read on air on the Ellen show about how this makes me believe in America again. And then I think we have a clip of her explanation.

People were upset. They thought, why is a gay Hollywood liberal sitting next to a conservative Republican president? Didn't even notice I'm holding the brand new iPhone 11. And a lot of people were mad, and they did what people do when they're mad. They tweet. But here's one tweet that I loved.

This person says, Ellen and George Bush together makes me have faith in America again. Oh. I mean, yeah. Exactly. I guess that's how a Bush supporter would feel, right? Pat yourself on the back. Here's the thing.

I'm friends with George Bush. In fact, I'm friends with a lot of people who don't share the same beliefs that I have. We're all different, and I think that we've forgotten that that's OK that we're all different. Because we're rich. For instance, I wish people wouldn't wear fur. I don't like it, but I'm friends with people who wear fur.

And I'm friends with people who wear furry, as a matter of fact. I have friends who should tweeze more. But just because I don't agree with someone on everything doesn't mean that i'm not going to be friends with them when i say be kind to one another i don't mean only the people that think the same way that you do i mean be kind to everyone doesn't matter even people who destabilize an entire region of the country and threw it into utter chaos and causing countless trauma for our own people and other countless millions around the world yeah under false under fucking false pretenses yeah millions that's like i don't see and this is what happens

too like i bet these presidents they're always waiting like george bush is probably rooting for donald trump he's like because man the second this motherfucker gets in they'll start forgetting about me i can start rehabilitating my image i'm yucking it up with ellen degeneres yeah have you seen his paintings they They're pretty solid. Yeah, dude. He's really chill. It turns out he may not be a vicious war criminal. I don't know.

I mean. You hague to see it. It's just so disturbing because then that's really, it's like that succession type world where it's like, at a certain level, you get so rich off the backs of people that that's actually your true common ground. It's really not your political beliefs. It's the fact that you're so rich. That's how I relate to people.

And that's how I can dismiss this other shit. Yeah. I was reading a profile of this like voice of the people journalist. I forget what his name is, but uh the journalist was with him when he saw ann coulter in a airport and they like fist bumped each other we're just like yo what's up yeah like we're tight um hey we're getting money and that's i don't know that either of them are uh ultra rich but the ultra rich similarly have that sort of solidarity. I'm reading a book about tax shelters right now and how they are basically,

they're the reason that the effective tax rate for the ultra-wealthy has just gone to be the lowest in America. And this person's argument is there are ways to solve that, but really wealthy people and moneyed interests in America are working really hard to make it seem like, well, that's just going to happen. There's always going to be a certain percentage of us who don't pay our taxes. And this book does a really good job of proving that that's not the case and coming up with some solutions uh i'll link off to it in the footnote is it maybe also people are upset about this because it really just points to the fact that ellen degeneres just somebody that sort of plays a character on a tv show isn't necessarily this bastion of like liberal

you know holiness kind of definitely not i mean i don't think there's been anything very essentially that hyper progressive about her i mean she's just sort of like normalizes a lot of weird people yeah and this is just another example her last stand-up special was called relatable in the first run which was actually pretty funny because it was like self-aware she was like acknowledging how unrelatable her life is and how you know she's just crazy wealthy and nothing in her life is like the people in the audience's life uh but like even in that monologue that we played you heard her uh talk about like you know so some of my friends wear furs right there's There's something that's relatable. Oh, right.

Yeah. Not like. You know, you guys all, for instance, probably feel conflicted about fur, but a lot of your friends wear furs. Right. Exactly. I mean, look, chinchilla's fine. Right.

It's the minks that I'm really concerned about. Yeah. And you guys get that, I'm sure. I mean, you hate to see it. You hate to see it. Well, Noel, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Oh, man, always a pleasure. Nice to be in the actual room and not on the speakerphone.

This has been great. How do we smell? So good. Good. Yeah. Where can people find you, follow you? You can find me on Instagram at HowNowNoelBrown. You can find my shows, Ridiculous History and Stuff They Don't Want You To Know,

everywhere you get podcasts. Awesome. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? There is. It's a tweet from Jesse Case and it says, I have the memory mattress and the gravity blanket. Once I acquire the time pillow and the duvet of truth, I can do the summoning. That's great.

That is in my liked category as well. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Gray. A tweet I like is from incorrigible Mozart goose at Trevor Wagon. Casual sex implies the existence of ranked competitive sex. Also, don't forget October 16th for the chicago podcast festival you can check out ethnically ambiguous live okay at the hungry brain 7 p.m okay come check out super producer anna hosnier sheree yunez uh they're gonna do their thing go witness firsthand anna needs to be experienced

in person actually yeah to understand the energy uh if you don't know, it's strong. It's powerful. It's a force to be reckoned with. Oh, thank you so much. So check them out and get your tickets at chicagopodcastfestival.com. A couple tweets I liked. Joe Rumrill at Two Ton Bug tweeted, I want a Joker-type movie, but about the fucked-up circumstances

that led that guy to become Mr. Bean. Megan Amran, just a true thing. You can't be nice to everyone because being nice to certain people is inherently cruel to others. And another true thing, Ayo's World tweeted, Netflix should have a category called easy to follow while looking at my phone the whole time. And that is a for certain.

You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today?

This is a track from a French artist from the 80s who was getting down in New York City named Lizzy Mercier de Clou. And this track is called Slipped Disc. And apparently the scene was called the No Wave Scene. I didn't realize that, but it's got a lot of good world rhythms and things like that. And I don't know. When you hear it, you're like, this shit is pretty timeless in a way.

And it's a great vibe. So check out Lizzie Mercier de Clou. Are you familiar with her? I know the No Wave Scene. Is this what you were playing in the office earlier? This kind of disco scene? I did play one track of hers earlier. Because that was a cover of The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. Yeah, yeah. Because that was a cover of Arthur, The Crazy World of

Arthur Brown, the song Fire. Just like a psychedelic. Yeah, that was her hit that she was covering. Yeah, yeah, that's

cool. I've never heard that version. Yeah. We were talking earlier about how the 80s disco scene was happening.

Just the early 80s, late 70s is having a moment right now. I'm a fan. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. A lot of good tracks on the

Righteous Gemstone soundtrack. And also there's this underground movie, Joker, that came out that's set in the late 70s or 80s. Oh. Yeah, check it out. Alright, that's going to do it for today. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the

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