The Daily Zeitgeist - Jordan Superpowers, Oprah Is a Forgiving God 4.6.20

Episode Date: April 6, 2020

In episode 602, Jack, Miles, and Jamie are joined by Worst Year Ever's Katy Stoll to discuss Oprah letting Stedman back into the house, Jane Fonda on TikTok, Jared Kushner continuing to be a useless i...diot, super humans like Michael Jordan, quarantine activities, and more!FOOTNOTES: Oprah Let Stedman Come Back to the Mansion Jane Fonda, 82, resurrects her iconic workout videos on TikTok WATCH: Jane Fonda's Workout for Beginners, 1982 Trump makes sure to take a question from OAN staffer Chanel Rion even though she was banished from the White House Correspondents' Association for attending briefings she wasn't supposed to be at Jared Kushner Ripped For Saying ‘Our Stockpile’ Isn’t Meant For States To Use Behind the scenes, Kushner takes charge of coronavirus response JARED KUSHNER: "The notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. It's not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use." Carrier Roosevelt CO Relieved Over ‘Extremely Poor Judgment’ in Creating ‘Firestorm’ Over COVID-19 Outbreak WATCH: Studio Rio - Bill Withers - Lovely Day Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:27 and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News. Oh. What else? Fuck coronavirus? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck coronavirus. Let's do it. It's Monday,
Starting point is 00:02:43 April 6th, 2020. My name is jack o'brien aka quarantine from your homes and we'll gonna be your podcast to lean on that is courtesy of christy yamaguchi main rip bill withers uh and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la Rolling blunts, of course Getting lit for AKAs Now it's time to pour Kirkland cold brew is what I adore Only beverage that my heart beats for Caffeine coursing through my mind Boom, thank you to Mr. Austin T.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Austin T. For that Stevie Wonder inspired, aka truly inspired. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by our quarantine co-host, Lil' Zam herself, Jamie Loftus! I see a Lil' Zam, I want her painted black. Hackers don't need no colors, I want her painted black. I see the girls walk by dressed in their COVID clothes.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I have to turn my head for social distancing norms. That was from Johnny Davis. Thanks, Johnny. Johnny Davis. Johnny Davis. That sounds like someone who would be in your second grade class. Yeah. And then Johnny Davis pulled my hair.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Johnny is so rude, but he's very funny. But his dad owns the car dealership. He's also pretty good at the night trends titles. So he thinks he's hot shit. Johnny Davis, sound off in the comments. Defend your name. Defend your stupid name. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat
Starting point is 00:05:26 by the hilarious, the talented, the wonderful Katie Stone. Hi. I did not prepare a song. It's okay. All right. Well, then I guess that's it for this episode. We have plenty of song parody time up top. Has anybody done glycerine to quarantine?
Starting point is 00:05:45 No, but somebody just sent one. Really? Yeah. I don't know the words, but the quarantine part would work. Oh.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Quarantine. Yeah. This would be remembered as the golden age of AKAs. Oh yeah, it will. It will go down in history. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Truly, truly. Katie, how are you doing in your quarantine? Just okay. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm not sick. I've got a roof over my head.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I've got work. I struggle, but I'm okay. Today's good. Today's fine. Except that I heard lean on me and immediately burst into tears this morning. That's kind of my emotional state. Yeah. Did you, have you learned anything about yourself in the quarantine or surprised by something you've done? Because I feel like that's the, those are the, that's the next level of observations I'm having about myself or my home during this. having about myself or my home during this yeah i i'm not surprising myself i knew this would be very hard for me um but i am learning just how much i rely on external energy and to get me
Starting point is 00:06:54 through stuff to keep me level or if i'm dealing with something to go immerse myself in a project or just go out be out in the world interact with people. Or like I was saying before we started recording, going and taking a workout class. Dumb, I can work out by myself, but it's more than that. It's about connecting with people and interacting. And I'm trying to develop different ways to clear my head, I guess. Yeah, yeah, for sure. No, it's very real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 It's a unique challenge for us to see what are the things that are our crutches you know for some people it might be weed it is for me as well you know or different things that you might be using too much or when your crutch is taken away what do you supplement that with what do you replace it with how do you find it within yourself um and i have confidence that i will learn all of these lessons sure we've got we've got a few months for them to sink in yeah i've realized i thought i would be playing way more video games than i actually am i was like oh boy r.i.p my ass because i'll be sitting in front of the but like i'm like doing so many other things bed sores all over the place i honestly thought it was like my whole lower body
Starting point is 00:08:06 is just going to completely atrophy from the amount of video games I'm going to play. But part of me is also like trying to do so many other things just to stimulate other parts of my brain that I think are starting to like not atrophy but are just getting less stimulation in part of not having a typical day-to-day life that I used to.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Totally. Yeah. I think the human touch thing is really going to, I don't know, I feel like we're probably going to learn a lot about how much we need just like other humans around us. And I think we've talked before on the show about how like nba teams when they make or miss a free throw how they touch all like everybody on their team's hands almost like it's the studies have
Starting point is 00:09:10 found that that is actually like a crucial part of teamwork and teams that do that perform better than teams that don't do that and you know i think because of our increasingly uh you know technological existence these days we get less human touch than we ever did before and that's why we're seeing things like cuddle parties just like pop up and uh you know massage and stuff like that wait there's cuddle parties now yeah that seems unadvisable where oh no no not not right now. Oh, I got you. I just mean in the modern world. They're like, you know what, bro? We don't even have drugs or alcohol. We're just going to be naked
Starting point is 00:09:51 and hold. A black market cuddle. Yeah. Black market cuddles are so good. All touch is now weirdly forbidden. I feel like the tantric community is going to become real mellow after this because they're literally just touching.
Starting point is 00:10:08 So backed up too. I was thinking about that documentary about tickling the other day and was like, wow, that doesn't seem so weird anymore. Right, you're like, it doesn't even seem weird. It's so hot to you now, you're like, oh man, you're just tickling me. It would actually be cool
Starting point is 00:10:23 to let an old weirdo tickle me for 500 hours. Well, now, it's not the old weirdo who does the tickling. He's the one who pays other young people to do the tickling. Well, he's the most susceptible. He can't get tickled right now. That's true. Yeah, he has to watch from on the other side of a glass, like those pictures of people meeting their grandchildren.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah. I bet his quarantine is going really hard if that's what he's lost. How's the tickle guy? We forgot about him. We should check in on him. I've just been wondering about all my favorite docuseries characters.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Right. How they're doing in the war. Well, Katie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better very shortly. First, just a couple of things we're talking about. Stedman has been invited back into Oprah's house, so things are looking up. Jane
Starting point is 00:11:11 Fonda and Dolly Parton are on TikTok. Fuck Krasinski and his good news channel. We got all the good news you need right here. Jared Kushner, shit, we blew it. No more good news. Jared Kushner has Shit. We blew it. No more good news. Jared Kushner has descended
Starting point is 00:11:27 from planet dumb fuck to kill us all. We're going to look at the PPP, the Paycheck Protection Program and how that's going. I'm going to talk about Michael Jordan if we have time. All of that. Plenty more.
Starting point is 00:11:44 But first, Katie, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, I have one, but it kind of touches on your PPE thing. So maybe I'll save it for that and say, okay, one thing of my search history would be I'm looking for colorful headscarves and cute headbands maybe from boutiques that have online sales because this hair isn't getting cut for a long time. And it is a problem. Who's going to see you, though?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Who's going to see you? My boyfriend and me. That's called a love test. That's a love test right there. He tells me that he thinks it looks good. He's lying. He thinks. That's a love test right there. He tells me that he thinks it looks good. He's lying. He thinks. That's not unequivocal.
Starting point is 00:12:29 It's just these bangs are going to be a real problem. Anyway, I'm looking for headscarves. I just, yeah. I like it. The answer, I think it looks good. No, say it looks good. Don't tell me what you think. Is it good or
Starting point is 00:12:45 tell me i'm beautiful it's beautiful i would love the idea though that somehow you're like that your your worries your concerns are reasonable that your boyfriend might be like i don't know man those bangs are getting kind of weird now like well the thing is my bangs grow really thick everything goes really thick at the front So pretty soon It's just gonna be in my face Oh I can't
Starting point is 00:13:09 And my hair's curly I can't cut it myself Are you kidding me? You've got the opposite of male pattern baldness Yeah Hand some of that Hand some of that strong front over here I wish there were like
Starting point is 00:13:19 Vitamins I could take To make my hair grow slower Yeah Or like if there was a way I could just like touch your scalp And then. Yeah, or if there was a way I could just touch your scalp and then absorb your follicular power, like fucking Rogue, but for baldness. Follicular, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:33 If I could share that, I would love it. Follicular strength. I feel like someone needs to draw a picture of that. But I don't want it to be a net loss for Katie. It's like Katie is like the fountain like the source energy it's never like at her expense like it's just so powerful mutual benefit exactly it's like a usb hub it doesn't you know it's all the power is emanating from there it's not at the detriment of the hub katie what is something you think is underrated underrated okay crocheting
Starting point is 00:14:04 that's what i'm going to go with. That's the new thing that I'm picking up in my free time here. I mean, I haven't picked it up well. I've mostly just been kind of crocheting a long chain. I know that there are patterns out there that I can follow, but just the act of doing that stitch is kind of soothing. I know a lot of people turn to knitting. No, thank you. That's two needles. I know a lot of people turn to knitting. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:27 That's two needles. I prefer the one. It's less complicated to me. Yeah, yeah. Right. Not that much less complicated if I haven't learned how to do more than one stitch. But I think that's a really healthy hobby to be picked up in times like these. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah. I thought you were going to say, like, I haven't started. Well, like, you're saying, I haven't started, but I like crocheting. I haven't started. But I feel like I'm going to be really good at it. I think, like, anything that has that repetition, like, now that you say that, I feel like I could weave the fuck out of one of those box stitch plastic lanyard keychains you used to do in, like, the late 90s and shit.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Like, I could probably do a 70-foot one, just one full day, just the repetition of it. You've got the time. One of my friends has started making friendship bracelets. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. She's like, I'll mail them out when I feel less guilty mailing things. I'm like, okay. She just has to Lysol it.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, exactly. I was like, oh, that's such a nice way to spend your time. It is. That's cute. Sort of touch your friend. I feel like absent-minded things you can do with your hands are making a huge comeback. Huge comeback. Like two hours.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I spent two hours shuffling cards the other day while listening to a book on tape, just like sitting next to my kids. You learn any card manipulation tricks yet? You're going to get to that point, you think? No, just doing the same shuffle over and over again. I mean, that's pretty impressive to me. I can't shuffle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, I was trying to impress my kids. They didn't notice once. Whoa, Miles. Completely oblivious. You just got some cards? I'd hate to do some tricks here for you. Why do you have cards? No!
Starting point is 00:16:06 I don't have anything. I just had a pack of cards next to me. He just dropped a couple of them into his hand. Yeah, I was like, yep, that's a flourish. I was doing my daily outside yesterday, and I saw it was a few streets over. There was just a deck of cards against humanity cards just scattered in the middle of the street that's sad it was so that's
Starting point is 00:16:32 banks he's gone really uh he's run out of ideas i gotta say well there, there was one that said, like, the apocalypse on it. And I was like, see? As far as symbolism, it's a little eerie for your one outside time. I'm like, did a game go that poorly? Are we that deep in the choir? Where someone's like, forget it! And I just threw it out the window. You guys just don't get my jokes. That was for me, because as loyal listeners know i say fuck cards against humanity another
Starting point is 00:17:07 brave stance uh you do what it what is something you think is overrated katie zoom zoom that's what we're using right now zoom have you guys heard all this zoom bombing stories have you talked about yeah well not like all of them, but just like the phenomenon is the new thing now. The phenomenon. Because we've all moved to Zooming. We've all moved to Zooming. Zoom's fine. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:17:31 We're using it. It's working. But we have Skype. It's the same thing. I've never been Skype bombed. Is that a thing? Yeah. Why did Zoom suddenly take over for Skype?
Starting point is 00:17:46 I mean, Skype does the exact same thing. We've been using Skype for worst year ever. Yeah. Yeah. A far superior show. Zoom, I don't know how they managed to corner the market. When this started, I had just deleted Zoom off my computer for taking up too much space. And then there's that.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And then all of a sudden, needed it more than like now more than ever yeah i need the most cursed app yeah and just the knock-on effects of i think of us all working remotely now it's it's being felt just in the apps we use for sure it's cursed but it's you know but skype was the same thing and existed a long time before. Is there like added functionality for Zoom? I would say there's less. You're not making phone calls with Zoom. Right, yeah. We've had several people on the screen.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Also, let's test it out here. If I go and I click out of Zoom, yeah, see, I clicked out of Zoom and I'm just looking at my browser and I can't see you guys. We can see you. Sure, but with Skype, when I'm like clicking over to my document to read the stuff that I prepared,
Starting point is 00:18:48 a little tiny window pops up so I can still see people while I'm looking at the docs. Oh, that's true. But does Skype have fun backgrounds? That is the question. That is the question. That old people will be like, hey, look at this. Maybe this week we need to try all the possibilities and then do our own march madness bracket of video services we use to record this
Starting point is 00:19:13 show oh yeah that's kind of fun fuck that's fun yeah i do like zoom better than google hangouts i feel like it lags less than google hangouts. I think that's fair and true. Well, now we got to try Google Duo, the one that's made for it. Well, Google Duo is Google's app that's made for video conferencing. Oh, everyone's getting on that video conference train. There we go. I mean, even Google? Come on. Also, have you guys used Houseparty?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yes. No. What's that? Oh, it's so great. Jamie, get on Houseparty. You're going to like it. It's great. You can have multiple people video chatting, and then then within it you can play games and shit so like someone can like one
Starting point is 00:19:49 person can draw something and everyone has to guess what it is or you do like the thing you know that game where you hold the thing up to your head and you have to like yes oh that's fine what's really cool about it also i mean that's really cool about it but like say you have to turn on your alerts but you'll say like oh your friend allison is in the house and the whole idea of house party is you open it up and i see okay allison and lindsey are talking i can just jump into their house party like it's a house party and i'm walking into the room like so people can just pop in and be like what's up and like then leave and go to another room you know that's so fun it's kind of fun i don't think it's good for
Starting point is 00:20:25 work no the delineation is fucked on there but we gotta have some delineation between work and play here yeah it's true oh zoom's for working house parties for playing in the car it's all the same i feel like yeah the the work-life separation has never uh never been more dubious personally than right now. Yeah. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and hear your myth. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
Starting point is 00:21:14 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. The story of one strange and violent summer.
Starting point is 00:21:46 This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.
Starting point is 00:22:12 All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.
Starting point is 00:22:38 There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Have you heard about my newsletter called Body and Soul? It has everything you need to know about your physical and mental health. Personally, I'm overwhelmed by the wellness industry. I mean, there's so much information out there about lifting weights, pelvic floors, cold plunges, anti-aging. So I launched Body and Soul to share doctor-approved insights about all of that and more. We're
Starting point is 00:23:23 tackling everything. Serums to use through menopause, exercises that improve your brain health, and how to naturally lower your blood pressure and cholesterol. Oh, and if you're as sore as I am from pickleball, we'll help you with that too. Most importantly, it's information you can trust. Everything is vetted by experts at the top of their field, and you can write into them directly to have your questions answered. So sign up for Body and Soul at Katie Couric dot com slash body and soul. Taking better care of yourself is just a click away. It was December 2019 when the story blew up in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved.
Starting point is 00:24:37 You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Katie, finally, what is a myth?
Starting point is 00:25:05 What's something people think is true you know to be false? Well, we're going to have to put a big one to bed right now. And it's that an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Because I think we've all proved that very false. No. Are you sure? What kind of apple? I mean, they've never been specific.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Maybe there's a kind of apple that we're supposed to be eating that would have beat coronavirus, but I haven't found it. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. I think Steve Jobs put that one to bed. Did he? When he was like, well, he like tried to beat his cancer with like a fruit-based diet.
Starting point is 00:25:42 With like green juice. He was a green juice guy. I don't think anybody's saying an apple a day and only an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Steve Jobs, come on. An apple a day replaces oncology every day.
Starting point is 00:25:59 My boyfriend brought home some apples the last time he went shopping and then I had to tell him that I can't eat apples because they make my gums bleed. Really? I know he's learning so much about me. Always or is that a teeth whitening? I have bad gums.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Bleeding gums Murphy over here? I got bleeding gums all the time. I've gotten it looked at. I went to the Groupon dentist. She fixed it for a month and now my gums are to the groupon dentist she fixed it for a month and now my gums are bleeding again how did she fix it for a month was it like some sort of she sneezed in my mouth but she used like this power washer to get the gum stuff away and then she gave me like a fancy toothpaste and it worked for a little while and i still
Starting point is 00:26:40 use the toothpaste but my mouth is bleeding all of it maybe maybe also add a gum care mouthwash also to your regimen. I've done that too. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just going to be slowly bleeding out through my mouth. Has it always been bleeding a lot? Yeah, ever since I was a kid. And do you have like receding gums in spots? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Oh, yeah. Because that's the thing that scares me. It's like how you have to get like a graft of your gum from one spot and put it into another spot oh it's in my dreams all the time that happens that's called gum disease yeah well i was a little kid and they told me i've got one one tooth that like doesn't have very much gums and they told me i was gonna have to get it someday but hasn't happened yet no yeah once i the the dentist was like yeah man you gotta take care of your gums or they're gonna they're going to get so to the point where you're going to need that procedure. I'm like, oh, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I thought it was a joke. I remember where I was and the day I found out that gums do not grow back and that they were just like, yeah, you're fucked, pal. Like, I don't know. Thanks, doctor. Was there an old bookie who said that to you? No, yeah. Hey, pal, you're fucked. I don't know Thanks doctor Was there an old bookie who said that to you? No yeah Hey pal you're fucked My childhood dentist
Starting point is 00:27:49 This is just You can look him up His name is Dr. Vagenis No it's not Dr. Vagenis brought to Massachusetts But anyways He told me my gums are fucked And he was right
Starting point is 00:28:00 Thanks doc Listen kid you're fucked Like I'm six years old Dr. Vasilios Vagenus listen here little poopy your gums are fucked welcome to brockton mass welcome to brockton um receding gum line huh oh yeah not good all right let's talk about stedman yes please. What happened? So he was in the guest house for a while, right? So yeah, Oprah punished him because he was not practicing social distancing soon enough for her liking, which is fair. They're both over 60. You've got to be careful,
Starting point is 00:28:37 right? And so she banished Stedman. And this can't be the first time this happened. She banished Stedman to the guest house. But what I didn't know, because we brought this up before, but it sounds like they were like, I guess Oprah said that he received his meals from Oprah through a window, according to this Jezebel article, and that they engaged in love chats. So they were still like together, but separate. They were, they were,
Starting point is 00:29:04 It's beating off through a window. I think that Stedman was beating off at the window. Oprah's beating off at the window. They love each other. I love that. Dude, love chats is more disgusting than just graphically describing whatever happened. They said it's love chats. So then, so he was banished for 14 days as is
Starting point is 00:29:27 customary and um i think that oprah was watching him on her nest cam being like if you cough you may not come back in the house uh but he didn't cough he was very good and so there is a picture on the oprah magazine insta account of her and stedman walking back into the house together. Wow. Triumphant moment. To have a little love chat IRL. Being Stedman sounds a lot like the movie Oldboy, where they keep that guy in a room and just watch him on camera the whole time.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Also, just the details of it is that Stedman was literally banished from the promised land, which is what they call the house. There's the promised land. It's like, leave the promised land. I mean, that guest house has got to be so nice. And I'm sure he's, I mean, come on. You've got a few months of this, a couple of weeks of like alone time. It's probably good for them. Good for their relationship.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I wanted to just shout out because no one really knows what Stedman does. Uh, including me. He like is a business guy, but he's written a lot of business books and all the titles are very funny. So I just wanted to share a few. Um, you can make it happen.
Starting point is 00:30:37 A nine step plan for success. Next book. You can make it happen every day. Next book. Teens can make it happen. Nine steps for success. He knows his brand. Oh, he does.
Starting point is 00:30:49 We'll get there. Teens can make it happen workbook, the ultimate guide to sports marketing. And then in 2002, he wrote, build your own life brand, a powerful strategy to maximize your potential and enhance your value for ultimate achievement. Too long of a title.
Starting point is 00:31:04 By marrying Oprah. By marrying Oprah. By marrying Oprah, yeah. And then his most recent one was last year, Identity of Leadership. To lead others, you must first lead yourself. Wow. Lead yourself right out of that guest house, Stedman. That sounds like someone who's just getting secondhand information
Starting point is 00:31:18 from the people Oprah talks to, and he's like, I think I can make that a book. Say, yeah, yeah, do whatever you got to do, Stedman. Just do it in the guest house. The books are mostly what Stedman hears through the window. Right. During his love time. It also sounds like be a leader, lead yourself.
Starting point is 00:31:31 He's not the leader of that household. No. Right. He's the man that got banished to the guest house. I feel like Stedman has to have a very strong sense of self to be able to live the life that he does. It's true. I respect Stedman.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I have respect for him. It's just I don't think it's a skill set that is going to be all that valuable for other people to adopt. I don't think people are going to Stedman their way to success. It's such a weird thing too because his Wikipedia page
Starting point is 00:31:58 is criminally thin for someone who is Oprah's longtime partner. It's unbelievable. I'm pretty sure if Daily Zeitgeist had a page, we'd have more written about it than Stedman Graham. It says he's a CEO. I'm not sure of what company that is. It must be.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Stedman Corp. Stedcorp. Something involved with sports marketing, which is always something, which is a phrase that has never made sense to me. I remember that was in, did anyone see old dogs or old hogs really no no that whole movie was about like four of the oldest actors i forget which which four but they were all in john travolta yeah and they were one of the oldest actors one of them was into
Starting point is 00:32:42 sports marketing and he was always trying to... And I was just like, that can't be a job. I don't mean to disparage sports marketers, but on the surface, it sounds like a pretty douchey job. I mean, aren't you just representing athletes? I don't know. Sports marketing, tell me.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I'm sure they work for the franchises and things and have to work on that level. It's still... I mean, to be fair, a more dignified position than full-time podcasters. So like that's, you know. We'll see though. We'll see how well they can podcast
Starting point is 00:33:13 and how well we can sports market. The nine steps though to his like leadership building process, it's so vague. This is on StedmanGraham.com. One, step one, check your identity. Okay. Before deciding what to do in life, you must firstedmanGraham.com. One, step one, check your identity. Okay. Before deciding what to do in life, you must first understand who you are. Great. Two, create your vision. Three, develop your travel plan. To fulfill your vision, you must create a plan of action. Okay,
Starting point is 00:33:38 great. Four, master the rules of the road. Step into the outer limits. Pilot the seasons of change. Build your dream team. Win by a decision and commit to your vision. Easy. That is so fucking nebulous. It's important that you know that if you do any of those steps out of order, you will die.
Starting point is 00:33:59 In that order. So I can't learn the rules of the road before I check myself. You will spontaneously combust. You will fucking explode. in that order. So I can't learn the rules of the road before I check myself. Oh, no, no. Absolutely not. Your brain will fucking explode. I need to buy this book. Stedman,
Starting point is 00:34:12 it also says on Stedman's Wikipedia that he is an educator, author, businessman, speaker, and podcaster. He has a podcast called
Starting point is 00:34:20 Discovering Your Identity. And I should get him on the show. Do you think Stedman would come on the show? We should have got him. He's out of the guest house. I got to hang with Stedman. I got to get in that brain.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I got to know what's going on with him. You got to. He smokes weed. Of all of those professions he listed, which would you most or least want to be stuck next to on a plane? I feel like they're all just terrible professions to be like, oh, God. People who work professionally in sports, like professionally, like their career, people who are not the athletes but work in the sports field. I've noticed that's the only thing they can talk about.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Yeah. It's the only thing. And I get it. Like, you know, that's the only thing they can talk about. Yeah. It's the only thing. And I get it. Like, you know, that's your entire life. But some, like, I have friends who work in, I guess technically what's marketing for like the Clippers and shit. All they can talk about is fucking basketball.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I'm like, bro, like you have a daughter born. How's that? He's like, I don't know, man. But with this Kauai trade, like we're fucking looking at like, I mean, I don't know, a new dynasty. I'm like, what the fuck? Having kids is a slam dunk miles yeah i mean respect to all the sports marketers i don't know i just i just you know but you know what more than that respect to stedman grand stedman open
Starting point is 00:35:37 invitation to smoke blunts with us and you know let's just get that big old brain ears let's find your identity so stedman launched a competitor to Instagram? He did? Stedman Graham? Stedman Graham? Is that what that is? Get him out of here. Did it.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Wheel him out. Get him out of here. Do you okay? TikTok, gang. Okay. Does that sound hip? Do I sound like a young person? Listen here, gang. Go off, gang. Okay. Does that sound hip? Yes. Do I sound like a young person? Listen here, gang.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Go off, king. Listen here, Jack. Jane Fonda and Dolly Parton are on TikTok. This is great news. So sound off to the Jane Hive, first of all. I know that we're cooling on celebrities right now. They're out of touch. But I mean, we've got some hitters today.
Starting point is 00:36:26 We've got Stedman. We've got Jane. We've got Dolly. All of whom are great as long as you don't Google their politics too closely. Except Jane. Her politics are very good. She's pretty upfront with hers. She's great.
Starting point is 00:36:38 So she posted this TikTok. I got like four people sent this to me at two in the morning, which it felt good. So it's Jane and her like... first of all, she looks fucking like it makes no sense. She's 82 years old. She's doing leg lifts. I've been exercising with 1982 Jane every night at 1 a.m. So it's been so like, oh, it felt like news for just me. Oh, I have questions about that have you
Starting point is 00:37:05 noticed about do you feel strong and lean from doing the jane i do i feel stronger i feel strong like i hate it's i it damn i i get the hype it's and it's not hype it works i feel i feel stronger sometimes you should see jamie's first position in some of these uh my turnouts killer the no bitch i'll like alternate and do the half hour one night and then do the hour the other night it's like but it's getting easier and jane's so fun she's so encouraging and she's not like mean like some people in exercise videos are anyways she she put up a new tiktok and then it ended up kind of being a bait and switch she does it for like a minute and then she's like, but what I really want you to do is... And then
Starting point is 00:37:48 she started plugging her environmental work. I think it's called Firehouse Fridays or something like that. And so it was... That's where she gets arrested? That was where she gets arrested and now she can't get arrested. So she got a TikTok.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Can't get arrested in this town. No. She can't even get a... We got a TikTok. Can't get arrested in this town. No, we can't even get a celeb arrested in this town these days. I haven't really gotten into TikTok. I see them when people post in places. Do I have to get a TikTok to watch TikToks or is it like Twitter where I can go to Twitter and say, can I see that?
Starting point is 00:38:19 But it doesn't mean you can't. You can just be one of those people who has an account and never posts anything. It's a lurk. Not like the old school mean you can't. You can just be one of those people who has an account and never posts anything. It's a lurk. Right. Yeah, not like the old school where you can just navigate to this site and be like a ghost, a full phantom. There's a record of you existing on the talk. But I mean, these grandma celebrity TikToks just means that they got their social media employees working from home.
Starting point is 00:38:46 They're doing great. That's great. You're keeping people employed. Richard Simmons even came back from the darkness. He did? Yes. Oh, that's great. On TikTok? Not on TikTok, but he's out doing public-facing things to get people to exercise in the choir.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And people have been like, Richard Simmons, we thought you had vanished. I took his class once. He did one in LA and I went and took it and got a picture with him and everything. It was so fun. It was just a bunch of old women. Me.
Starting point is 00:39:16 He and Jane Fonda are both people who I do, like I'm going to talk later about how I think Michael Jordan is basically like has superpowers and I think a lot of famous people have like weird superpowers that we don't think about or know about like I feel like Richard Simmons like energy
Starting point is 00:39:36 and and Jane Fonda is like I don't know there's just like something incredible about them there's something special about 80s exercise. I don't know. They just make me feel so good. Has anyone ever done Gilad?
Starting point is 00:39:53 No. What's that? I know. That's like the Israeli fitness dude from way back. He's the Israeli fitness dude. He does bodies in motion. I used to wake up early when I was in high school, do a half
Starting point is 00:40:05 hour gilad in the morning just something really comforting about them amazing they're nice you're like okay everyone in these videos are like on drugs oh yeah but the jane fonda i did look at one video because you talked about it just to see the background people the background people in some of these videos i'm like that dude looks like a painter off the street. The outfits. Because the best part about those videos is that they were shot, that was during the era of Jane Fonda where she was married to that really high profile activist. So she was shooting these videos at a compound that she and her husband ran. So the people behind her are members of this like hippie compound oh wow
Starting point is 00:40:46 makes it even better yeah and that's where like most of the money from those videos went was like to keep that compound running i just love the videos now for the people watching they're great and and the people behind her are like suffering like they're jane's doing the workout in front but everyone else is like like it's i would love to like live stream or not live stream, maybe zoom workout with people to a Jane Vonda video. Oh, it'd be so fun. Oh,
Starting point is 00:41:11 she's great. Set that up. Good. Let's just do that for the rest of this recording. Okay. Send a link. Jared Kushner, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:20 addressed the nation, uh, on Thursday, I guess looked like a, a living ventriloquist dummy and yeah i i don't know he it seemed like a book report that was not he hadn't really prepared for well the problem is he's unfortunately for the for the people of this country he's like the smartest person that donald trump knows so it's like a default bad idea, he's like the smartest person that Donald Trump knows. So it's like a default bad idea
Starting point is 00:41:48 that he has. Like what's something overly complex because it requires like multiple lines of thought. Okay, Jared Kushner, solve the Israeli-Palestine conflicts, solve the opioid crisis. Now help us from the fucking scourge
Starting point is 00:42:03 of COVID-19. And and okay just as people know the hospitals are overwhelmed we're seeing videos from health professionals saying we are in desperate need of respirators ventilators ppe the things that keep us safe as we interact with the the sick during this entire crisis and we still haven't had any leadership at the federal level to basically do the Defense Production Act and say, you know what, fuck it. We're taking over everything.
Starting point is 00:42:31 This is what the fuck needs to get made. Stop asking questions. People are dying. Or a lot of people are clamoring for the strategic national stockpile to open. And if you say, what's the strategic national stockpile? That's got to be something good. This is from the website. When state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Oh, fucking great. That's right fucking now. What we're in right now. Oh, fucking great. That's right. We're in right now. Please help. But wait a fucking minute, because we have Jared fuckface Kushner running this thing. This is what this is what this man's idea. This is what his concept of the national stockpile is.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I just want you to listen to what again, as I just defined what it is, it's for the states in need. This is what he says at his little presser. And you have instances where in cities they're running out, but the state still has a stockpile. And the notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. It's not supposed to be state stockpiles that they then use. So we're encouraging the states to make sure that they're assessing the needs. They're getting the data from their local local situations and then trying to fill it with the supplies that we've given them. The same thing with the masks.
Starting point is 00:43:45 So he's like, yeah, here's the thing. That's ours. That's our stockpile. What does that even mean? Who is our? His? Ours? The White House's?
Starting point is 00:43:55 You are the head of a country that is a collection of states, motherfucker. So they can pick favorites. It's ours. Yeah. So they can pick favorites. That is what it is. We fucking paid for it with our fucking taxes. We're dying now. can pick the fucking tax we fucking paid for with our fucking taxes we're dying now give us the fucking things we need um yeah and this whole thing is just
Starting point is 00:44:10 deeply frustrating because again people have said we've got all these shipments coming in from abroad of medical equipment and people the journalists are asking hey this is so great uh thank you so much for for telling us about this is this going straight to the hospitals? And they're saying, no, it's going to go into the private sector so then people can buy them from them. These aren't just going direct to them. We're going to muck it up even further and let the fucking state governments knife fight over fucking masks and shit that are going to keep people safe. And the ghoulish. Yeah, it's really fucking dark um especially when you look at the needs and you're seeing these nurses and doctors and health practitioners fucking screaming for help saying we are you're fucking killing us like you're literally killing people out here by not
Starting point is 00:44:56 doing anything take fucking control as the government the other issue of this whole thing is jared kushner has brought a team of fucking assholes with him to completely meddle in the response from FEMA and other organizations. And this is a quote from Politico, just so you can hear how people are describing this influx of the Kushner crew. The culture clash between public and private sectors has been jarring. The senior official described the Kushner team as a, quote, frat party, quote, quote end quote that descended from a UFO and invaded the federal government to government officials the outsiders demonstrated a lax attitude to policy discussions at one point using the website freeconferencecall.com to arrange high-level
Starting point is 00:45:37 meetings others have used personal email accounts in delicate policy exchanges. I feel like people who are in the private sector, we were raised on this idea that privatization is good in the 80s and that the market economy is good because it was in opposition to communism. I feel like we're learning. People who are in public life are actually more competent because they're mission driven and like driven by getting things done as opposed to this like profit motive which just fucks everything up and it like brings in
Starting point is 00:46:18 this uh the ability for people to just be super corrupt. Like Jared Kushner is in the position he's in because his parents were rich and bought his way into Harvard. That's how that happened. That is the private sector. Right. Like just that ethos trickles all the way down. That's what trickles down.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Not money. It's wild though too to see even like people on right wing Twitter be like, no, not Jared Kushner. It's universal that people are just saying this is the absolute worst thing. And we're actually killing our own people out of sheer ignorance. Sheer ignorance. That's really all it is.
Starting point is 00:47:05 That's what makes it so fucking frightening and dystopian. Have you guys touched on this show on how all the different states are in a situation where they're outbidding each other for equipment? No. No, we haven't. I mean, it's just so
Starting point is 00:47:22 dire. The lack of ventilators, the lack of PPE, all of it. And so we're in a position where states are battling other states. And these manufacturers are going to the highest bidders. And we're also competing with international demand. Yeah. Right. It's truly horrific.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And I know that, I mean, I just can't underscore enough how big of a problem this is. And like, yeah, people are dying. Our healthcare professionals are dying. Yeah. It's not just, that's just not like an exaggerated statement of like, they could die. No, they're dying. They are dying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:58 There are people contracting the illness and perishing. Yeah. I'm furious about it. I'm furious about the whole thing yeah to be honest you ask how i'm doing it's hard that's what sends me into a tailspin the most is when my anger flares up not that this wouldn't have happened that we wouldn't have had coronavirus or wouldn't have had a big problem to deal with but that we're dealing with it like this in the cruelest possible way cruelest possible way in every step of the way
Starting point is 00:48:25 we fuck it up more yeah it breaks my heart i feel like the only thing i can see a benefit to is that it'll be mismanaged to a point where maybe some people will understand what the actual stakes are for for most people here but it's going to be at the cost of so many bodies yeah that's what's fucking bodies to make anything happen is just so and it can't and that and that can't be the fucking way we learn things as a country that's what also makes it so fuck i've seen so many memes too where people are talking like about how this is truly like the demasking of america where all the shit that they talk of like, oh,
Starting point is 00:49:06 you know, like us as Americans would, you know, say things like, oh, you would never see America do something like China where they're going to silence doctors or, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:15 take people who speak truth to power and, and censor them. Meanwhile, we have doctors and nurses who are being threatened with disciplinary action or even firing for saying things like we need fucking protective equipment. Or even with the captain of the USS Teddy Roosevelt who wrote a letter saying, hey, I think I don't want to put 4,000 sailors lives at risk because I'm on the boat that has the worst outbreak in the military right now. Let's do something. Cut to the government saying, yeah, we'll relieve you of your duty. And now, you know, we truly see like, I mean, I think many people have seen it
Starting point is 00:49:50 for a while, but I hope to other people it becomes clear just the hypocrisy of the way we operate in this country, because it's really, it's nothing to be proud of. And this is really shameful. It's always, and it's always been this way. But just in this escalated situation, I mean, the way that it hasn't even been a secret that like really anyone in a position of power willing to advocate for workers is disciplined or removed in some way. And it's like the Theodore Roosevelt is no exception. The Amazon warehouse is no exception. Doctors and nurses willing to advocate for themselves and their co-workers is no exception. The Amazon warehouse is no exception. Doctors and nurses willing to advocate for themselves and their coworkers are no exception. And it's like, yeah, anyone who's getting in the way of business as usual or productivity that we're still kind of diluted ourself into thinking is going to be possible is just, you know, taken out of the equation to make things easier for the business. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I saw somebody tweet that there needs to be a 9-11 commission on the coronavirus response. Yes. I think that's what Adam Schiff is doing, actually. That's what Adam Schiff is doing? Yeah, I think he's trying to put together
Starting point is 00:50:59 sort of the language to have a truth commission. We need it. Yeah. Even if they don't draw the right conclusions and in the JFK assassination aftermath there was the government report that didn't do a very good job of drawing conclusions but it at least gave us a bunch of shit
Starting point is 00:51:19 that we could then comb through and draw our own conclusions from and that needs to happen pretty urgently i think so i don't know where our death toll is right now five thousand something like that but just two days ago we have him standing up there saying the best case scenario is to get it keep it between 100 and 240 000 deaths and um it's hard to wrap my mind around that it's hard to wrap my mind around just how bad it's going to get over the next several weeks you know yeah and the people if it gets to that point but yeah and sadly there are other people who are saying like that it's
Starting point is 00:52:00 overly optimistic to even think that would be the number based on how poor the response has been and you know the there's other reports that some of the testing only has like it is only like 66 accurate like we're it's fucking it's yeah yeah we're living in a horror movie yeah all right guys let's take one more break and we'll be back with less depressing news. More Stenman. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
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Starting point is 00:56:52 just to get a phone call. I would love that. I think I need to figure out how to. It's worth a shot. It really is. If he does a little research and hears me talk, all that shouldn't feel real bad. But I'm like, look, Stedman, that's the reason.
Starting point is 00:57:04 That's why I'm so obsessed with you, bro want to know what's it like who are you that right he's got the podcasting gear that's a docu-series oh maybe yeah we'll offer him some cross promotion cross promotion we've got an audience it Stedman. It's a second-rate audience, but an audience nonetheless. Oh, Zite Gang, dude. It will be Sted Gang. Sted Gang. So we are about two weeks out from The Last Dance, which is the ESPN documentary about the last season of Michael Jordan's Bulls.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And I'm so ready to just watch basketball in any capacity right now. I'm suffering withdrawals. I'm so excited about this. So I'm actually doing homework ahead of it. I'm reading this David Halberstam book that is about the last dance, but it's also just about his entire career. It's about The Last Dance, but it's also just about his entire career. And it's raised this question that I've kind of wanted to ask for a while.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And I want to hear from Zeitgang on their theories. But I think Jordan is like, there's all these stories about him that lead you to believe that he might be like an X man. Like he, he might have been a super powered mutant because like they, we talked, uh, earlier this year or late last year about the story of him going out and golfing 36 holes on a game day and drinking a case of beer with Jeremy Roenick and then going out and scoring over
Starting point is 00:58:45 40 points. I wish it was Jeremy Roenick. Jeremy Roenick, the Jeremy Renner of the hockey world. I know Jeremy Roenick. Sorry, got work done. Scoring over 40 points and putting the team on his back
Starting point is 00:59:01 to victory that night after drinking that much. Then there's just all these stories. My dad is a basketball coach. My grandfather was a basketball coach. And they had interactions with him or coached against him. And the degree to which he was better than everybody else at the time he was playing is so far and above anything you hear about anyone else. They would
Starting point is 00:59:28 run their offense to the opposite side of the court he was on just so they would have a chance of scoring because he was so good defensively. And that's not even the thing people usually bring up about him. So I'm just doing research and pulling all these little details where he has some element of him that's superhuman. We think about his jumping ability, and that was one of the things that people noticed and talked about a lot but uh there's all these stories about him being like super strong even when he was like a beanpole when he like weighed 180 pounds and was 6'6 uh bobby knight was like yeah but then like when you would play against him he would put his hand on you and it was like you were in a vice grip of like steel he was like so incredibly strong um he would taught like most players avoid beat reporters outside of the locker room but he like cultivated them to get information about which opponents
Starting point is 01:00:33 were having problems with their teammates so like he he was like playing actual 4d chess they talk about his metabolism uh which i think ties into the ronick story we talked about where he could drink a case of beer but like there's all these stories about him like eating junk food not in this book but like you always hear uh stories like he was always like just polishing off entire pepperoni pizzas like on game day there's stories of him uh having a cigar and a glass of liqueur before a game like one time um and he would like go out to vegas or atlantic city and gamble the entire night and then come back and like put up 50 so i don't know i don't i don't want to go on for too too long about this but i just find it really interesting uh i think it ties into what we were talking about with jane fonda like the idea that
Starting point is 01:01:29 it seemed like she's on like some sort of upper or something because she's just like able like just has this boundless energy and i just think there's like ozzy osbourne has an actual genetic mutation that allows him to be able to. Yeah. He has a genetic mutation that makes him able to drink more alcohol and do more drugs than anybody else. Is that a thing that's true or is that a thing he says? No, no.
Starting point is 01:01:57 That's a thing that is like scientifically true. Like a Keith Richards kind of like myth. Wait, is that like a a like you can be diagnosed of like just being like what cool like yeah yeah exactly you were born to party this guy suffers from a case of party hard
Starting point is 01:02:19 this man is no human this species is party animal but I do think I mean you see that a lot in like recovery that a lot of people This man is no human. This species is party animal. But I do think, I mean, you see that a lot in recovery, that a lot of people, like the people who are in recovery tend to be people for whom drugs and alcohol worked really, really well. They really agreed with them. And so there are these just different uh genetic ways that people interact with the world around them that i think are kind of interesting to to think about and i think with
Starting point is 01:02:54 michael jordan it's like a very specific case of like him having a bunch of different uh features he's also like quicker than anybody else even though like that wasn't something that jumped out at people he like set all these records for uh the sprints at unc so i don't know uh if people have cool stories let us know i think it's worth exploring that sense like where we usually just say like oh they're a superstar athlete and like because they're right like they're just super talented but some people do like in in any kind of you know field just do show talents or skills in a way that you're like this is like fucking way better than everyone else though like and i really would be curious if there is some kind of biological scientific answer where we can sort of
Starting point is 01:03:44 see like, yeah, they're like, yeah, this one, this just happened to be like the greatest, like crossing over of genetics for this very specific thing. And it turns out to be someone who's like the brain activity and synapses
Starting point is 01:03:57 and muscle elasticity all combined to do this very specific thing or performance. Certainly he should donate his body to science when he dies. Yeah. One of the things that his team doctor talked about was actually something I didn't really think about as a skill until I realized Miles had it, which is he's really body aware
Starting point is 01:04:19 and able to describe the faintest sign of sickness or injury and just sense that coming on. Whereas like, I just realize I'm sick when I'm like over the, over the toilet throwing up. So, so I, I don't know that that was interesting to me.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And like that, that enabled him to stay healthy for most of his career. Thank you for, for describing that as body aware, rather than like me high all the time. What was that? Hypochondria. What that is.
Starting point is 01:04:47 That's different. WebMD. Uh oh. A generous description. Body aware. Noisy ass mind. Well, I think sometimes it's like a quiet mind though,
Starting point is 01:05:03 being able to like notice and and in touch with your body. I think, honestly, it started out of me wanting to not run the mile during PE as a kid. Sure. So if I could even have the faintest thing, like tell my mom, like, yeah, something's up with my knee right now. Maybe you can write a note. Maybe I felt it. I felt something at night go. So maybe you can write a note. i i felt it i felt something at night go so maybe you can write a note i don't have to do that yeah i wonder if i i have like a very bad uh habit of uh ignoring my
Starting point is 01:05:33 like my body telling me stuff entirely and like now more than ever i'm sure i'm trying to break that habit and acknowledge like just because my body behaving differently makes me nervous doesn't mean that I should just ignore it which is what I would normally do yeah yeah me too it's weird and it's like I know that it's like everyone's paranoia is definitely heightened but yeah it's like any difference if I wake up feeling like groggy or weird I'm like that it can't be nope nope nope and it's like And it's like, well, no, you got to take note of it. You got to be like, yeah. Yeah, because my boyfriend and I
Starting point is 01:06:10 were having this conversation. Like, yeah, most likely fine. Or, you know, yes, our paranoia. But I don't want to be the idiot that was completely wrong. Right, right. That was completely wrong and did everything wrong,
Starting point is 01:06:22 ends up in the hospital and dies or infects a bunch of people just because I was stubborn and scared and just wanted to ignore what I was feeling. Yeah. And also bad having that emotionally where you're just like, ah, that makes me feel bad. I'm going to ignore it.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Right. A lot. I mean, that's just self-preservation. It goes with everything. This pile of mail makes me feel bad. I'm going to ignore it. I mean, that's just self preservation. It goes with everything. This pile of mail makes me feel bad. I'm going to ignore it. Fucking piles of mail. That's why I have
Starting point is 01:06:55 auto payments. All right, guys. Do we have any quarantine activities? Katie, any quarantine activities you want to recommend to the people that we haven't already? I mean, we've already gotten some. That house party sounds pretty good. House party's pretty good. Last night, my boyfriend and I, on all of my podcasts,
Starting point is 01:07:13 the only people I'm going to be talking about are my boyfriend because that's the only interaction I have. I mean, that is the flex right now on social media. Some people are like, I have not felt the touch of a human in 20 days. And you're like, my boyfriend and I. I'll push back and say, I mean, I'm glad to be quarantined with him. I can see the positives in a solo quarantine as well. You know, just to have the space.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Oh, yeah, try it. Giving each other. I don't want to. I'm glad we're not. We're all people who aren't solo quarreling either, I realize. We pulled up YouTube on the TV and just found karaoke songs to
Starting point is 01:07:49 melt out. It was so fun. Did Drops of Jupiter and Third Eye Blind and some Dolly Parton. It was fun. I highly recommend. My brother-in-law sent me some videos of my
Starting point is 01:08:07 nephews dunking on a Nerf hoop in slow motion, like on the slow motion setting of the iPhone. And it's actually really fun to just take footage of whatever you normally take footage of, but in slow motion, you can get some really great action videos. Oh, you know what you should do? Someone do a slow motion mixtape of crossing up babies doing just crossovers on babies crossovers on small children it's my favorite genre video are toddlers who can barely walk in an adult full speed dribbling at them what you got what you got what you got yeah if you've never uh taken a video of your dog in slow motion shaking itself off, that's also very much worth checking out.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Yeah, now's the time. Yeah, start your stock video career. Stock videos would be fun to watch right now. Maybe that's a new art form is creating new Quar stock videos for people. Solo stock videos? That's a great idea. I've looked at too many stock photos and stock videos to ever think that that would
Starting point is 01:09:07 ever be fun. Did you ever have to log footage in any early media job? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The fucking worst. And then, or even do transcribing with the foot pedals and shit. Foot pedals. Yeah, to start to pause and shit. Yeah. Foot pedals. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:25 To like start like to pause and play. That way you keep your feet. Yeah. Keep your hands on the keyboard so you can be a more efficient machine. Optimized. You're like a fucking one man band of like logging. Did you do it for any fun shows? I used to do an antiques roadshow spinoff show in college.
Starting point is 01:09:44 That was like what I was... It was boring. Oh my god. Can you imagine what doesn't make the cut of a show like that? Only dry documentary footage. One time I did it. I would love to see that though.
Starting point is 01:09:59 But the foot pedal, that's a real... I mean it did help with efficiency. I did it for ABC News Primetime Live with Diane Sawyer and Chris Cuomo. Oh, yeah. A young Chris Cuomo. What did he say to you again? He has chunks of guys like me in his stool.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Yeah. What? Yep. So in my face. How do you get them there? Yeah, that's a great question that I should have followed up with, but I was a lowly PA. Katie, where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:10:33 On Twitter would be a good spot, at Katie Stoll. Yeah. You can find me and follow me there. I would plug my Instagram, but it's like, I don't post there. Is there a tweet? Is there a tweet, Jack? Is there a tweet just in general? This one might be hard to explain over an audio medium,
Starting point is 01:10:55 but it's from a man named Dan Crowd. It's Dan Crowd. And he says, today I made a Zoom background of myself accidentally walking in on myself in a Zoom meeting. And it's very funny. He's talking, and then at one point, the door just opens, and he peeks in and goes, oh, sorry, and box out.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And it made me laugh really hard this morning. That's my liked tweet. I love it. Jamie, where can people find you, and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar still in making that soap opera
Starting point is 01:11:32 Oh it's so good, I love it! Oh thank you! It's just me and my dolls I like to spend time with my dolls Anyways, yeah Something I've been enjoying I guess more of an act of yeah so uh something i've been enjoying it i guess more of an act of the internet but i have really been enjoying um just a shout out to zeitgang in
Starting point is 01:11:50 general um we talked a little bit and asked for people's experience with um you know getting unemployment is it efficient for people state by state or not um same with ppp and i got a lot of really um thoughtful and cool responses about that it seems like you know it's a it's a mixed bag on all fronts but I got a few messages saying that their business did get PPP and it's been very helpful others saying that the people like that they told them to fuck off same with unemployment but just like thank you for being so I don't know engaged with us and there's a really cool post on the Zeitgeist Reddit right now. It's literally like organizing a worker strike.
Starting point is 01:12:30 So people are fucking out here. Yeah, it's great. So just shout out to Zeitgang on the whole. Come together. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, Playstation Network
Starting point is 01:12:45 Miles of Grey Also my other podcast 420 Day Fiance Where we talk about 90 Day Fiance A tweet I like Is from And it says This is why y'all drink wine Bitch I feel sexy as fuck
Starting point is 01:13:00 I wanna kiss I love that fuck i want to kiss i want to kiss i want to kiss that's really good that's really good this is why y'all drink wine bitch i just it feels right because i think a lot of people don't especially like wine is not a turn-up alcohol. You're not drinking wine at the club, and I think very much for people who are not culturally into drinking wine because it's not high-octane enough, when you actually start slow drinking a bottle
Starting point is 01:13:36 and you get those little tannins in you, and then you want to kiss. It's a very different experience. You want to kiss. Oh, I very different experience. You want a kiss. Oh, I'm laughing. Feels good to laugh. I'm laughing. It's happening.
Starting point is 01:13:55 It really does. Kids, get in here. It's happening. It's Ben Rosen tweeted, biggest twist endings, Fight Club, The Sixth Sense, and the song Row, Row, Row Your Boat. Life is but a dream. and tweeted biggest twist endings, Fight Club, The Sixth Sense, and the song Row, Row, Row Your Boat.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Life is but a dream. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode miles what's it gonna be today uh you know look we're in we're in the midst of a bummer situation on in the entire earth obviously bill
Starting point is 01:14:37 withers passing is also terrible if you were a fan of his music and maybe you might only know one song uh but you know just to bring some some light to it all uh i i want to do a remix of his music. And maybe you might only know one song. But, you know, just to bring some light to it all, I want to do a remix of Bill Withers' Lovely Day. But it's, like, more Brazilian. You know what I mean? It's got that samba vibe. So the song itself is obviously a lovely song. It's lovely, as the title says. But this is the Studio Rio version of Bill Withers.
Starting point is 01:15:03 It comes from an album called The Brazil Connection, and it has flip tracks from Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Mel Torme, Dave Rubeck, Sly, all kinds of people. Really interesting album, but this is the Bill Withers remix of Lovely Day. So even if it's cold where you are, just try and close your eyes and find yourself on a nice beach outside with other human beings within six feet of you. And it's not a danger to the general public. What a dream.
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