The Daily Zeitgeist - Julian Assange: Worst House Guest, The Murderer’s Story Checks Out 10.18.18

Episode Date: October 18, 2018

In episode 255, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Danielle Radford to discuss Julian Assange being the worst asylum seeking couch surfer, more info on the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, The Turning Point group's problem with hiring racists, Mueller getting ready to give us some information from his investigation, The Conners, The Good Place, The BET Awards, the beef between Nicki Minaj and Cardi B, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Ecuador tells Assange to avoid political activity online – and feed the cat2. Trump appears to make room for Saudis to deny involvement in Khashoggi disappearance3. Pompeo: Saudis didn't want to discuss 'any of the facts' in Khashoggi disappearance4. Saudi Arabia Delivers $100 Million Pledged to U.S. as Pompeo Lands in Riyadh5. “I WAS ORDERED SILENT”: HOW JAMAL KHASHOGGI FELL OUT WITH BIN SALMAN6. WWE Talent Is Uncomfortable With Saudi Arabia Show—And They Should Be7. Turning Point USA Keeps Accidentally Hiring Racists8. Tweets About Diapers Broke the Entire Conservative Youth Movement9. Leaked Memo From Conservative Group Cautions Students to Stay Away From Turning Point USA10. Chats Show FIU Turning Point USA Members Sharing Racist Memes and Rape Jokes11. Chats Show FIU College Republicans Joking About Charlottesville, Deporting Classmates12. Mueller Ready to Deliver Key Findings in His Trump Probe, Sources Say13. The Conners ratings are a lot lower than Roseanne premiere14. THE GOOD PLACESEASON 3 15. BET Hip Hop Awards 2018: The winners list16. CARDI B NEW MUSIC TAKES AIM AT NICKI MINAJ ... Cardi's Team is Split17. WATCH: LEISURE - Money Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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There you go. There we go. That was courtesy of Steve on Twitter. He was like, surely you meant to do this one. Yeah. He did that Green Day song. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. You know that your love is my love.

My love is your love. And our love is miles of gray. Hey, hey, hey. Whoa. To be real. You've got to be real. Anyway, that's Hannah Soltis coming at you with that one. I just had to let you know that, yeah, I have pipes.

Yeah, man. That was Mariah Carey-esque. Well, you know, I try. I try. Whistle tone. Thank you so much. And I'm unanimously known as the most annoying person to karaoke with, just so you know. For shit like that.

Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very funny Daniel Radford. Hello. Thanks for having me. What's up? Welcome back Daniel Radford. Hello. Thanks for having me. What's up? Welcome back. Hi. Yeah, thanks for having me back. We got to karaoke sometime.

Oh, yeah. What's your song? Oh, I have a bunch of them. What do you start with? Everyone has one they start with. I usually start with Peace of My Heart by Janis Joplin. And then I go from there. So you can sing, huh?

Yeah, I can sing. I'm not good enough to be anything, but good But good enough to, like, show up to kids. Good enough to pick a Janis Joplin song to start with. Good enough to, like, go to karaoke and have people be like, oh, you should audition for something. That's good. That's called being good at karaoke. I have people telling me to shut the fuck up. Right.

Like, afterwards, they're like, here you go. You have to come with Derek. Like, that's our thing. What's Derek's thing? Oh, he can do anything. He sucks. He's so good. I hate him.

Oh, is he good, singer? He's stupid good. It's Derek's thing? Oh, he can do anything. He sucks. He's so good. I hate him. Oh, is he a good singer? He's stupid good. It's annoying. Oh, that's right. I think on the first episode or one of them, he hopped in and did a little vocal thing and we're like, oh, look at you over here. Yeah, it's genuinely very upsetting. He's really, really good.

Anything Boyz II Men. Oh, wow. He does a lot of Queen. I hate him. Yeah. Well, our fans love him. He's a good guy. He's a good man.

He's a good man. We'll have to do that. Who are we talking about? Derek Lemos. Oh, right, right. Former guest on the Daily Zeitgeist. Stupidly talented boyfriend. I hate him so much.

Our first date was karaoke. Really? Oh, wow. All right, Danielle, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners what this show is all about. The goal of the show is we're trying to tell you what the nation is thinking and talking about today. Taking a dive into America's and sometimes the rest of the world's shared unconscious using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google and social media. And today we are talking about Julian Assange, just world's worst roommate.

About Julian Assange, just world's worst roommate. We're going to talk about Drudge being at it again with this, you know, telling people that the Democrats are physically assaulting people. You're even having trouble articulating. It's so absurd. Yeah. All right. We're going to talk about the latest developments in the Saudi madness, all the shit that's going on over there. The audio recording that has just been confirmed by The New York Times, which is just fucking horrifying.

We're going to talk about Turning Point because that is an interesting group. A couple months ago, how they are trying to infiltrate the colleges of the United States with their conservative agenda. White nationalist agenda. White nationalist is probably more accurate. We're going to talk about how Robert Mueller is going to save us all from all this madness, and it will all be over soon, right? Nope. Oh, sorry. No, that's not happening. I just write what I hope things will happen, but never mind.

Yeah, we'll see what happens. Yeah. We're going to be talking about TV ratings, some new shows, the BET Awards, being kind of dope, all of that and more. But first, Danielle, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? What is the last thing I searched? The Spanish word todos. Like all? Yes. Because someone tweeted this morning about how George Lopez, I guess, got into a fistfight or an altercation with like a Trump dude. I haven't read the whole thing, but someone tweeted it

with the caption, his hands are rated T for totals. Oh, wow. So I had to make sure I had the right translation. Anybody can catch these things. Anybody can catch George Lopez's hands. Wow. That's awesome. Was it like at a show or something?

I don't know. I didn't get a chance to read. It was literally as I was going into the train to come here, I saw it. And I'm like furiously. The last thing I do before the train cuts off my internet was look up Todos. Yeah. Okay.

George Lopez got in a fight with an alleged Trump supporter at a Hooters. No. For real? Wow. Did you just add that or is that legit? No, no, no, no. That's legit. CBS Los Angeles, Fox News is reporting.

Was this in LA? I don't know. Is that the Burbank one? The Santa Monica one? Every noun in that sentence gets so much better. What? George Lopez. George Lopez.

Alleged. Trump supporter. Also alleged. Hooters. Was his MAGA hat blurry or something? Right. Yeah, it's not clear. Oh, that the reporting could be that it was over that or it could have just been that

George wasn't happy with the service or something. The alleged headline is from Fox News. So they might just be like, you have to prove to us that you're a real Trump supporter. You got to get beat in to the MAGA gang if Fox News is going to consider you a Trump supporter. Yeah, and you did get beat in by George Lopez. Yeah, talk spicy to him. He's not one to play with. What is something that you think is overrated, Danielle?

Closure. Specifically the idea that other people owe you closure or that other people can even provide closure for you. It's just something that I saw in the timeline for this week, and I don't even remember why, but just the idea a bunch of people, you know, it's, you know, if a relationship ends or a friendship ends or something, that idea of like, oh, well, you got to give me closure. I want to close, you know, and it's like, as we saw from Hurt Bay, you don't need to have closure necessarily. Like, that's something that you've got to work on in yourself. And no one owes you that. And they can't give it to you. You can give it to you.

Yeah. Right. I was in a very similar situation, like in college, when I like got out of relationship and I was broken up with and I was never really given an explanation. Like I just kept hearing from her friends like, well, she wants this. I'm like, can I? Is she around to talk? I'm sorry. She's on Twitter.

She can't. Right. And for the longest time, I was like, I need I was in my mind. I was like, I need closure or something. And then it got to a point. I was like, I need closure or something. And then it got to a point I'm like, why am I looking for an explanation from someone else about a situation I'm involved in when clearly they're going to tell me the version based on what is in their head, what they're experiencing. And that is not what my reality is.

I'm like, yeah, you're right. I need to reconcile this internally. Right. And like and yeah, obviously, if you're dating someone, ghosting is crap. It's not kind, but you can't control other people. You can only control you. And so if you're left in that situation with someone who, you know, ghosted or for whatever reason just wanted to back away and not do the hard, messy part of actually having the conversation. I mean, that's up to you. You can't ask, you know.

Yeah. And that doesn't mean that that person doesn't suck if they do ghost you or do it in a way that's not kind. But at the end of the day, you have to take responsibility for your feelings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That means your power is now resting in someone else's hands. Exactly. And you are actually giving away your power at that point. Bring it back in.

Power yourself up. Yeah. I feel like you're adding significance to a thing that you need to be working on getting past, I guess. If you're just focusing on closure, you're continuing that narrative in your mind and in your life as opposed to just any breakup I ever had a hard time getting over. There was never a thing, like some interaction I had with the person that then made it okay again or something like that. It was just like, oh yeah. And then I saw that person three years later and I was over it because

that was three years later. Because that's how time works. Or should. Right. Yeah, so just let yourself heal. What is something you think is underrated? Therapy! I'm glad that we're all talking about it more online and other places.

But yeah, I just can't stress how good therapy is. I've taken some time off for a while just because it was really expensive. And then I found like a counseling center here. So I've been working with a counselor, which is great. And, you know, people are poor, so it's not always possible to get the really good expensive therapy. But see if you can find, you know, there's lots of sliding scale places that are more than willing. There's always a student that needs to learn. And so they will do it under guidance of other counselors. There are usually options.

And so, you know, if your brain needs a little bit of extra loving, you need, you know. Yeah. And also, if nothing else, it's just nice to have someone who's paid to listen to you for 50 minutes. Right. And you don't have to think like, well, this is my friend and they're going to know all this other stuff about me and prejudge what you're saying. You just go in a room and be like, like out to someone. It feels so good. I mean, if you have never been to therapy or counseling,, like out to someone, it feels so good. I mean, if you have never been to therapy

or counseling or anything like that, I cannot recommend it enough. Even if you're like, well, I'm not like, I'm good. You'd be surprised at all the things that we have in our subconscious that slowly can come out as we talk to somebody about a given issue. Yeah, we're little computers

and our brains are constantly picking up all of these new things that affect the way our processes work. And you might not even realize it until you're talking to someone and then you make a connection between this thing and that thing that you wouldn't have even realized was there and it's really freeing yeah what do you guys think of you were talking about uh you know how expensive it is do you have any experience with support groups like free versions of therapy where you just talk to a big group of people you don't know i don't yeah it seems i i could see how something like that would work i don't want to take you know

because i feel like when you see those things it's stuff that you've seen on tv or whatever and it's not necessarily how it does work i could see how something like that would be very useful for people. I've never done one because I want all the attention on me. Right. You start interrupting other people. Thank you. Thank you so much. Can we get back to me really quick?

I have a feeling that I stay away from darker colored clothing because my grandmother said to me, I'm sorry, this is a support group for dementia. And oftentimes those you can find those also just free where you can just go and show up. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah.

It's not accomplishing the same thing, but it's accomplishing a similar thing. Yeah, especially if you're one of those people who even opening up to a therapist might be hard. Those kind of groups could be good because a lot of times if you explain like, hey, I'm not really a big talker, even being there and kind of absorbing it and listening could help you. Oh, it immediately decreases your sense of isolation.

Yes. Especially if it's like the support groups for very specific things. If, you know, it's not necessarily like, I can't get over my relationship support group, but you might have other factors in your life that are adding to some kind of negative thoughts or whatever,

negative emotions. And to be in a room with other people who experience the same thing, like, yeah, even if you don't talk, it, I think eventually will give you the courage to speak because yeah, it's good to know that you're not alone.

Yeah. I think that was one of the reasons why, and I don't know what they're doing now cause they've changed everything. But when Weight Watchers was a huge thing, I think that most of what made that work was that you had that weekly time to talk with other people and kind of download all your feelings and have other people with you who were kind of commiserating. And who could hold you kind of accountable.

Right. Yeah, you felt like you were checking in with on a regular basis. Yeah, and I think that is probably the thing about that particular program, that if it does work for people, that's the part of it that works. We all know that most diets don't work for people. But if there is a part of it that does, that's the part of it. Yeah, there's a book that I've talked about before on the show that's name is escaping me right now,

but it talks about how like social interaction is a really underrated mental health tool and um they talk about these people who basically cured their depression by having a group where they met regularly and they were all like various levels of depressed and they just like started a project where they were like gardening in the middle of the city and for all these different reasons just having this common goal and constant interaction with other people like kind of fixed them but it was critical of you know some of the mental health solutions we use it was called Dianetics actually oh man still on that. Yeah.

What is a myth, finally? What is something most people think is true that you know to be false? This is something that has come up personally for me. Most people that you see or listen to on podcasts or see on YouTube or see whatever, we're not rich, you guys. Oh, my God. You're- I was in the train tunnel, I want to say a few months back uh at union station and a security guard came up to me and was like hey like i right he recognized me from screen junkies yada

yada yada and he was like what are you doing here and i was like taking the train home and he was like well don't you i like assumed you would have like a like a car yeah yeah no where's your black car he was like don't you like where's i assume that all of you youtubers have like and i'm like no we're not all like the pauls you guys like for of us, it's a job and we get paid to do the job, but we're not big balling. And so the assumption that everyone on YouTube, I mean, there are a lot of people who are. Most of them have been doing it for a really long time. And that door is now closed to most of us because of the way that YouTube works now. But yeah, we're not.

Mass media has people fucked up, you know, because it's like, I see you on the media I consume, therefore you are rich. You know what I mean? Like if someone has even been, like if you've done bit parts on TV, people are like, yo, what the fuck? I thought you were rich. And you're like, motherfucker, that was two jobs. And that was a grand total of $3,000.

Yeah, exactly. Like even if you know you get to be in an episode the highest they're ever going to pay you to be on an episode of something as like a bit person is with like 10 grand yeah unless you're u5 then forget about it but yeah so that 10 grand's not gonna last you all year homie yeah exactly like then like imagine i do three jobs that That's $30,000 before taxes. Yeah. Where am I going with that? What are you doing? You know what I mean?

Yeah. This is the basis of that whole Jeffrey Owens story where people were like, he was working at Trader Joe's. Yeah. That's crazy. He has a phone bill, my dude. Right. And I think that's the thing is maybe there's this vision of people.

I certainly had it in my head, too, before I was starting to work in the industry of sort of like as a kid, I'm like, well then, you will then be pulled up by the tractor beam, which is called mass media or making it. And then you live on this other planet, Elysium, where you are rich forever. You know what I mean?

And then you're like, you start doing gigs and you're like, oh shit, man, I gotta do like 90 of these motherfuckers to just get by. I have to do so many. And it's like, and sometimes you do, you know, for a day of work, some people will get paid 500, 1,000, 2, I got to do like 90 of these motherfuckers to just get by. I have to do so many. And sometimes you do, you know, for a day of work. Some people will get paid $500, $1,000, $2,000. But you don't get those days of work very often.

Yeah, right. You know, if you get one of those a month, you're happy because part of your rent's paid. Yeah, exactly. Like the people who are really rich, they're not on TV. They own the stuff. Even the people that you see, they're not the ones that are even that rich in the grand scheme of things. Obviously, if you're a millionaire, you're rich.

Yeah. Like all industries, for all the really high level people who are taking black cars everywhere, there's a vast middle class in that industry of people who you know from TV or from YouTube or whatever it is. Yeah. Because even then, if you get a ton of money working in at writer's room, that's a couple months of work. Yeah, and then what? And then that's going to coast you through until the next time you get staffed, which could be the next year.

Or two. If you're lucky, or three. Yeah. All right, guys. Let's talk about the stories of the day. Let's talk about your man, Julian Assange. Whose man? Your man.

Whose man is this? Whose man is this? Come get him. Come get your man Julian Assange. Whose man? Your man. Whose man is this? Whose man is this? Come get him. Come get your man, Australia. Apparently the worst couch surfer to have crashing at your place ever. Yo, so there's a document that was leaked from the Ecuadorian embassy

that was basically like a ultimatum for Julian Assange. Sort of like, yo, we're going to have to curb your internet access unless you start fucking doing a couple of things. Apparently, it started getting hot when the whole Catalonian secession thing was going on in Spain. And he was being real vocal about that and just other just general things going on around the world. He was really cheerleading from the sidelines for things like that. And that was causing problems for Ecuador because other countries are looking at like, yo, you're housing this dude at your embassy like what's going on what's good so they're like

okay we're gonna have to take away your internet access for a little bit because we have to sort this out and it's not good for ecuador so they gave him a list of things uh that they were really adamant that he needs to begin following through on and these rules are fucking amazing so just real quick julian assange is the founder of wiki leaks and uh he had to seek asylum in the ecuadorian embassy in london because he was brought up on rape charges in sweden right and they were trying to extradite him yeah they were trying to extradite him so he's just like hiding out basically that's where he's been this whole time whenever you see him he's just basically been in this embassy cooped up. And I guess they're starting

to really get fucking like tired of this shit. Look, guests are like fish. They go bad after five years or whatever. This is one of two stories this week where it's like, yeah, embassies are basically like a home base

where you can just like do like rules are different or something. And like you can it's like international waters, like a home base where you can just like do like rules are different or something and like you can it's like international waters like a little island of international waters in the middle of a city it's kind of crazy anyways oh anyway so they look in there and they're like look julian we got to talk man because you are messy as fuck uh first is please stop commenting on contentious political issues that can make shit hot for ecuador whether that's diplomatically or directly with ecuador so they're saying you can talk but don't start weighing in on shit and then thinking we're gonna like you know put our chests out to protect you

and that's where i would expect the message to end yeah of course it's like that's it and then we're fine we don't mind housing you great right then it was like look bro starting december 1st this year you got to start paying your motherfucking bills like you got to start paying for some shit like they're like we can't pay for everything wait what are they paying for i think his food and things like that and i think apparently at certain point you gotta get a job they're like yo exactly they're like you need a job my guy and let me tell you why i need a job because the next thing they're talking about start taking care of your fucking cat you are not taking care of your cat they're like you're doing the minimum the hygiene is shitty you're not grooming this cat the cat is just fucking running around

please take care of your motherfucking cat then the last one clean your motherfucking bathroom no that's another thing on the list is please the the hygiene of the bathroom must be addressed and the bathroom must be cleaned regularly. I mean, I can imagine. I was a single man in college and I know what my bathroom got like at certain points. I mean, if you've been living in an embassy for years, I can only imagine what that happens to you. You're probably a little depressed. You're probably just letting shit slide.

Anger at the world. You're like literally letting shit slide. Yeah. And now stepdad has to be like look i appreciate you look me and your mother love you very much hey i love your mom and i do this because i love your mom but like you gotta you gotta take care of your pets i wonder what's going on with the pet that they had to like articulate that in this document this agreement right i'm gonna guess it's a litter issue probably He's probably not taking care of the litter box.

And then I wonder if he just thinks yeah it's like a hotel when he's like well why don't you take care of it. He's like I'm not cleaning the bathroom.

It's like we already take care of you not being arrested. Yeah right. How's this? We'll work on you not getting arrested you clean up

after your fucking cat. Oh the cost that he has to be in pocketing up for is his food laundry and any other costs relating to his stay. Oh my god he really is treating in pocketing up for is his food, laundry and any other costs relating to his stay.

Oh, my God. He really is treating this like he is living with his mom and he ain't got to do nothing. Well, because, yeah, these are the ultimatums you hear from a parent who is tired of their parasitic child. Right. Like, you don't clean your bathroom. You're fucking. I get that times are tough and you graduated college in 2008 and the economy is terrible. But you've been here for 10 years.

Cats running amok. Your friends come over, get high all day, making the place a mess. And also, I'm not paying for your food. Yeah, the next thing is definitely going to be like, you also have to pay for your own Xbox Live. Right. Like, we're not- Exactly.

Right, right, right. Stop using our Netflix account. Yeah. It's messing up my algorithm and suggesting shows I have no interest in. We made you your own profile, Julian. Yeah, right. Is it that easy to hit left and then select when you launch Netflix? No.

But he's not bringing in any paychecks, is he? Like, what's he getting paid for? Is WikiLeaks, is that like an ad-supported business or anything? Like, it's not a thing that he charges people money for? Sure, the Russians will slide him a couple dollars or something. He can just do a GoFundMe. Enough people, like, staying for WikiLeaks that I'm sure he could find a way to pay for his own laundry and shit. Right, you better pick up a broom and start offering to clean stuff.

Another thing they're saying, he must have quarterly medical checkups and he has to pay for those too. They're like, you need to take care of yourself too. Wow. I feel like that is a very shady way of being like, look, all this stuff is probably going to get leaked.

We ain't going to tell folks you don't take a shower. Right. But we are going to tell you that you have to go to a doctor and whether or not you choose to shower before that checkup is up to you. It will be heavily implied. You smell like shit. You're the stinky kid at the embassy. We're just worried about your health because we assume that you shower like an adult.

So it must be something happening health-wise. Could you imagine it ends up like that? What was that story from a couple months ago that dude in upstate New York who was like 30 or 31 and he was like suing his parents.

Oh Michael something. Yeah. Like his parents were going to victim and then he represented himself in court to be like nah my honor. This is bullshit. I'm working on my app.

Yeah. He's like I can't get a job in six months. Are you crazy. Like that eventually Julian Assange is going to have some like weird magistrate courts in the UK. Right. Or I don't know. They would probably govern that in Ecuadorian lobby court, whatever they do over there in the embassy.

Julian's like Lawrence on the couch. It's going to be like Julian Hive on TV. Hey, yo, get that man a blue Best Buy shirt. Working on my app. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.

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And as we mentioned yesterday, the right-wing media is just trying to make it seem like the right and conservatives and alt-right and white supremacists are being attacked by the left there's a the trending top trending top left most trending headline on Drudge Report is Republican candidates assaulted in Minnesota, anarchists, middle class avengers. And they both appear to be mentally ill people attacking these two, like one person's a city council member. So they're just having to, you know, go out of their way. So just another update that that shit's still happening. What was that open letter the Washington Post had yesterday where it's like a 90-year-old Trump supporter

just did an anonymous letter but paid to buy out an entire page, like A20, in the Washington Post? And it was also pushing that same shit about liberals, they're trying to kill God, and all this other thing. And and now that was in the washington post that was a very interesting move but we don't know who paid for it anyway but yeah that that adds more to that sort of narrative yeah i mean and there's a whole thing with like fox news accidentally saying like the that uh we're saying antifa why are we all saying antifa um I don't know. Is there like a generally accepted pronunciation? I've always thought that it was Antifa.

I just say Antifa. But everyone says Antifa. I don't stress the T. I don't go Antifa. Antifa. I say Antifa. But yeah, so the whole thing where they claim that the Proud Boys were actually. Right, yeah.

We were talking about that yesterday. Yeah, and they're showing Gavin McGinnis with a sword and and they'll be like, look at this left-wing guy. They're like, that's your boy. That's your boy. He tells your other boys when they can masturbate. Right, and then when Sean Hannity was like, literally, I think when that story was out, he's like, oh, yeah, I don't know him.

They're like, he's been on your show a ton, my man. Let's move on to our second embassy story of the day. Yeah, the darker one. The darkest one in the Saudi Arabian embassy in Turkey and the story about Jamal Khashoggi. Because we're getting now more details. We still, the audio hasn't been released widely and hopefully it is not. But now the New York Times is reporting that, you know, it's been confirmed. You can hear him.

Basically, they attack him the second he gets in, begin beating and torturing him. They cut off his fingers. Then, you know, they basically dismember him while he's still alive. And you hear one of the people say hey i i find that it helps to listen to music while you do this jesus yeah someone outside the room or in the room no to the other people dismembering him with them like hey when we dismember political dissidents i find it helps to listen to music yeah i listen to pod right uh yeah this whole thing just gets darker by the second and you know we we touched on it yesterday because mike pompeo went to riad

to try and get some answers quote unquote from muhammad bin salman that wasn't going to happen uh because in the photo they were just like yes we're friends and then afterwards mike pompeo was like look i don't want to talk about facts. And the journalist was like, what do you mean? He's like, well, the Saudis really didn't either when I asked about the disappearance. And then he's like, that's because they want to do their own thorough investigation into what really went down. So I guess we're meant to believe that they don't know that. I mean, I guess for the optics, they're trying to make it seem like, oh, I don't know what happened. Yeah, we're going to believe that they don't know that they I mean I guess for the optics they're trying to make it seem like oh I don't know what happened yeah we're gonna have to get

down on that but I'm sure them investigating themselves will render uh the truth I doubt that but it gets more complicated because like you're saying Jack like those tapes and stuff come from the Turkish government right because they were the ones who like had sources in there to be able to get this intelligence or whatever and the more you know mike pompeo and trump and muhammad bin salman like yeah i don't know this is we got to look into this like you know what are we going to do and then turkey always being like what about this tape right we have this evidence and it comes out and just makes it harder and harder to buy the saudi arabian version of because, yeah, then the details just get more and more gruesome. Yeah, it's fucked up.

And one thing Super Producer Nick Stumpf was pointing out is that Khashoggi had spoken to somebody and said that he initially was basically told to shut the fuck up by MBS Mohammedhammad bin salman like after he said something negative about trump so it's you know and trump is home use with mbs and i don't know it's not it's not proof that trump ordered the hit but it's just very i don't know it's almost like there's no bottom to how bad this administration goes. Right. Yeah. Well, then not to mention that, like the second, like right after Mike Pompeo arrives in Riyadh,

a hundred million dollars comes into U.S. accounts from Saudi Arabia to help fight in Syria because Trump's been complaining about how nobody wants to pitch in on needless military excursions and things like that. But like the State Department is like, well, you know, this isn't a tip for tack kind of thing, because Mohammed bin Salman actually committed this money back in August. But everyone who was around that was saying like the details were never really ironed out as to how the payments would get there and when and what the timeline was. So it's amazing that the second he pulls up 100 million dollars comes in the account and then you have trump in like the white house saying well hold on let's not let's not brett kavanaugh this guy quite yet you know we need to find out the truth first uh and now we're getting

like defenses from the you know american government or at least buying the saudis time to figure out what their next move is going to be in terms of explaining this because it's it it just gets darker and darker and darker and more other governments are just like yo we don't we told y'all and other people had many a lot there seemed to be a lot of intelligence around this too and even jamal hashoggi himself was like everybody told him like yo i'll go in there oh did they well yeah i mean a lot of people were very worried. They're like, if you go in there, like, don't be foolish, man. Like, you know that you are a threat to Mohammed bin Salman, and walking into the Saudi consulate could be a fucking disastrous step. And tell everybody, like, do whatever you have to do to protect yourself

so you don't just, no one knows that you don't have this appointment. Because, yeah, he was lured in there, and he was murdered. Yeah. appointment because yeah he was lured in there and he was murdered yeah and yeah so hsog had like given a speech in jetta where he'd given a foreign policy talk lightly critical of then president-elect trump and then mbs's media advisor basically reached out and said you're not you're not allowed to tweet or write your column or give comments to foreign journalists. Let's talk. But we've got Crown Jewel coming up.

Right. Oh, yeah. What do you think about that? That's the WWE event. And I know you are a massive wrestling aficionado. Huge, huge wrestling fan. Yeah. And yeah, that's been something that has been coming up

on a lot of articles too, of all of the different weird connections between Saudi Arabia and the US. And wrestling, that's been something that has been coming up on a lot of articles too of all of the different weird connections between Saudi Arabia and the U.S. and wrestling seems to be one that just won't quit. Well, so here's what we know about the McMahons. We know that they're friends with Trump. We know that Trump has been on

WWE's television several times. I think he's in the Hall of Fame. I'm trying not to block that out. Is Trump in the WWE Hall of Fame? He might be. Probably. Yeah, he is. Because they have a celebrity wing,

which Cyndi Lauper has never been in, and that's a whole other conversation. Oh, come on now. I thought maybe she turned it down, but they've never asked her, which makes no sense because WWE would not have gone mainstream without the work of Cyndi Lauper.

Anyway, I'm rambling. That just still makes me so cranky. She should be in the Hall of Fame. Is that from the music video? Well, from that and also, so she became a manager for a while when she was at peak popularity she was working our manager in the wrestling sense where she would like a paul bearer yeah so she was managing wrestlers on tv if it wasn't for her wrestlemania wouldn't be a thing right like she was so crucial

to wrestling becoming huge in the 80s because she used her star power because she liked working with all of those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they've just like never asked her, which I think is mind boggling. I mean, it also kind of makes sense. It makes complete sense considering. So I didn't watch the greatest Royal Rumble or whatever. I didn't watch it because I was like, you're not going to in one breath tell me about all the great things that you're doing for women, basically undoing all of the bad things you've been doing for women,

but taking credit for it in this weird way. Because their thing with WWE now with women's wrestling is, oh, we're helping out the women. The women were mistreated for so long, but now we're going to fix it. It's like mistreated by y'all. Oh, you're saying the WWE's new stance, right? Like this has to change the way we were operating. Yeah, without taking,

it's always this thing of like Stephanie McMahon standing up and saying, you know, oh, the women were being so mistreated, but now we're treating the women well. And it's like, who was mistreating them? Right. You're talking about your parents? Yeah, right. You're talking about your parents, your parents. And so, yeah, we know that Trump is friends with that family. We know that Linda McMahon, Vince McMahon's wife,

and also I forget what title she holds in the company, but she's pretty far up there. She handles a lot of the business stuff because she's a businesswoman. She isn't like the head of the small business, yadaada yada for the country. And we know that Saudi Arabia is paying them big bucks in the first greatest Royal Rumble or whatever. We know that they got money for it. If you've seen the ads for it, it was a huge propaganda piece. Oh, yeah. And it didn't even disguise that it was.

Wait, the Royal Rumble, is it always held in Saudi Arabia? Well, this was called the greatest Royal Rumble or something like that. I'm probably butchering it because I tried to block that. But this year they did their first Saudi Arabia pay-per-view. It's not a pay-per-view, sorry. People are treating it like a pay-per-view. It's a live event. They do these sometimes.

They did one in Japan called Beast in the East. And so this is a live event. While there are many women wrestlers, they are not allowed to wrestle on the show at all. Oh, wow. Yeah, so now to make up for it, that's why they're doing, I mean, it's very obvious.

They've never come out and said it, but it's so clear that that's why they're doing now this women's pay-per-view called WWE Evolution. So they did that, and it was just a tourism commercial. you know, like, look at this progressive city and like, yeah, they kept saying the word progressive or progress in like that broadcast. I remember. Right. And for me, it was like, well, but the women have wrestled before they had to be fully covered. But I believe it was I could be botching this. I believe it was

in Dubai where they had a women's like the first WWE women's wrestling match, which went very well. The women were fully covered except for like their hair. But they did great and the crowd loved it and it was fantastic. But they're not doing that in Saudi Arabia. So I'd already decided before all of this happened that when they went back to now do Crown Jewel that I wasn't going to watch. Right. Well, I think that's the thing we realized too. Just the WWE and Trump have sort of the same reasoning for not really distancing themselves from saudi arabia and that's money so

whether it's like the massive uh windfall they expect to make by going to saudi arabia and doing shows there or trump with this 110 billion dollar arms deal he keeps saying where he's like i'm just gonna cost jobs and what do you want me to do the guy the guy spent 110 billion dollars well and i also this is because normally i think the wwe would have backed out because they are in a position right now where they have real competition from other wrestling federations and other promotions for the first time in a really long time like new japan's really popular you can watch them now on a streaming app tna is getting better ring of honor like people are paying attention to indie wrestling into these other places for the first time since like you know

wcw went out of business it's huge right now other wrestling promotions and so normally i think the wwe would have listened and would have backed out of it right um but i because they are in a more precarious position than they were in seven years ago. I didn't realize Kevin Nash was so liberal. Oh, yeah. He's so liberal. I could not believe it because he's out here tweeting. He's like, 9-11 was conducted by 15 of the 19 attackers who were Saudis.

Our response was to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. He had this whole thread. I was like, Kevin Nash from the Wolfpack? Okay. Oh, yeah. No, he goes off. Yeah, I didn't realize. I was like, wow.

I was trying to see what other wrestling responses were and i was interested it was i did not know so that's upcoming and then there's also the davos in the desert uh which was a big business conference that was supposed to be like american and global business leaders all meeting up in saudi arabia and almost all of them have now canceled people People who are still attending, surprise, surprise, U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, Siemens CEO Joe Kaiser, EDF CEO, I don't even know what EDF is or tails. That's the Erectile Dysfunction Federation. Right, that's the one. But then also AMC, the movie theaters, just opened up a bunch of locations in Saudi Arabia and are hiring a bunch of people.

And you were saying that we know that it's not like they're dealing directly with MBS, but you really get the feeling that not a lot goes on in that country without his direct approval. Yeah, no way. That dude seems like he's, I don't know, I don't want to call him a control freak. I don't want to call him a despot or a tyrant. Right.

Yeah. He's a great reformer. Right. You know, based on all that money he spent. Yeah, and, you know, with people standing up for the idea that you should go, the big argument is, well, not going isn't going to change anything. And maybe if we come over and – I don't know. It's the assumption that we take our big American dick out and everyone's like, yeah, now democracy – you know what I mean?

Yeah. Well, that brand is so damaged. You could pull out that little American pee-pee now and people are like – All right. Keep it moving, my man. Yeah. American pee-pee now? And people are like, okay, yeah, all right, keep it moving, my man. Yeah, so I don't know, but that's the idea is that if we go,

which is so, how is it that even in the argument to go, we still sound like assholes? We're still like, oh, they just don't know how to do it right, but if we go over there, baby,

we'll show them that American vanity. Exceptionalism, yeah. The brand is not strong. The brand is not strong. People don't realize about America these days. The brand is weak as fuck. Yeah, the brand is not strong. The brand is not strong. People don't realize about America these days. The brand is weak as fuck.

Yeah, the brand is not brolic. Yeah, not at all. Well, one brand that is brolic is Turning Point. Oh,

Jesus. Charlie Kirk's group of young people aimed at like only Young white supremacists. Yeah,

you're having trouble saying this, man. And Candace Owens who is also a young white supremacists yeah you're having trouble saying this and candace owens who is also a young white supremacist it's like a college thing where they're like we are infiltrating the liberal college uh conspiracy and they've just been revealed to be just non-stop saying things that are like cartoons of what an unimaginative liberal would make up if they were trying to write like a problematic group of white supremacists right ashley feinberg from the huffington post reported uh yeah earlier this year that one of the group's national field directors texted another tp usa employee i hate black people like fuck them all i hate blacks end of story uh so not leaving a whole lot of wiggle room you really have to have

the context for you to be able to understand what that means yeah um and they've been accused of boosting their numbers with racists and naziizers, even though it seems like that's basically what they are. But they've recently come to people's attention again because of some leaked chat logs from their Florida International University chapter. And yeah, they're not great. There was like something where they said like, hey, keep the Jew hate down to a minimum or something.

You're like, what the fuck? Yeah, maybe let's not talk about Richard Spencer too much. Right, right. It's so weird, man. And then that like, oh, I can't even form the words for what they said about Latinas. Well, I don't even want to know. I don't even care. No, we'll do it.

So one guy was like, I'm going to dress up. I'm paraphrasing. I'm going to dress up for Halloween as a border agent in assless chaps so I can grope Latinas and pretend like I'm deporting them. Uh-huh. I also just, this is the second time

it's the second time in two days that I've been, like the question has occurred to me, how do they think jokes work? Because like the shit that they- They don't. It's the same thing as shitty stand-ups. They just say wild shit and think like, because someone laughed at it, it's a joke.

Right. Yeah, and without recognizing that a lot of people laugh when they're nervous. Yeah. Uncomfortably. And they're like, oh, he said some racist shit. Like, hoo, hoo. They also talked a lot about how much they love Lolly,

which, huge surprise. Right. Yeah. I mean, look, you know, Charlie Kirk, anybody still wearing Yeezys out there? The Wave Runner 700, Kanye gifted our boy Charlie Kirk a pair of those when he was at the White House last week. So I remember I tweeted something about that. I'm like, yo, if you got these, you've lost. You have to, yeah.

Iffy, why do we post a picture of him wearing them? He's like, fuck. I'm like, yeah, you don't want that Charlie Kirk swag, my man. He's got to release some of those special Turning Point diapers, the Yeezy diapers. Wait till that collab goes down. And then apparently one of the TPUSA members had a table set up at an activities fair, and he was confronted and had to run away. Wow. Yeah.

Well, you know, I don't understand how they think they're going to—I guess they'll infiltrate people's ability to be more empathetic or something and then realize that the shit they're selling isn't appealing unless you have a lot of hatred in your heart. Yeah, and the dude was very calm. I watched the video. He just went up to the table and was like, hey, what do you have to say about this? And dude was like, and then left. He's like, I'm just here to own the libs. I'm just here. Okay, well.

This is the lib owning table. Yeah. You got anything to say? Fuck you. We're going to go. Are you triggered? Yeah. Triggered by this?

You triggered by my diaper, homie? You triggered? You NPC? So explain that, because I had somehow missed this, that at a certain point, TPUSA had done a big stunt where they wore diapers to prove that libs are babies? Yeah, they were on a college campus. At Kent State.

Yeah, and they set up an adult-sized pack and play, and they all wore diapers to prove that liberals are babies. And no one self-owns like Charlie Kirk self-owns. I know. I almost feel bad, you know? I feel like I have some really good tweets in my drafts that could help them, just spur some ideas for them. The ideas are not uh are not remarkable you know the joke is that white men can't jump but they can dunk on

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He's been quiet for a little while. Yeah. And he— Rumblings are coming. Rumblings have been heard that after the midterms, he is going to release his report. And at that point, it'll just be like, yes, Trump colluded, obviously, and we will all just be happy and Trump will step down in shame. Correct?

Yep. And that's it. And then we'll end this show on a high note and everyone can get back to their regularly scheduled programming. But wake the fuck up because that is not going to happen. Right. So, yeah, after the midterms, he's going to go to Rod Rosenstein and say, here's my paper. Check it out. And then from there, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein will then figure out what he'll share with Congress, what can be shared with the public.

And, you know, hopefully at that point, there'll be a pretty solid majority in the House to begin, you know, doing some further investigating and have people start explaining some things. And then nothing will happen. And then hopefully someone will leak it to a journalist. And then nothing will happen. And then hopefully someone will leak it to a journalist. And then we will march on a Saturday. Yeah. I mean, it could be pretty damning. It might not be.

We might not never know what the juicy details are. I'm going to say right now, we're never going to see the P-tape, you guys. I don't know. I'm waiting. I have a feeling I know somebody who would get the P-tape.

Yeah? I had a friend who got me Iron Man 3 like four weeks before it got in the theater so i'm like you know sometimes you got to work those kinekis yeah you gotta go check down by macarthur park yeah exactly see who got that p-tape somebody some somebody at a bar somebody at a barber shop is going to come through with a p-tape eventually but yeah i don't know like i said the p-tape is like dr jay's detox album like it's like we've been waiting for it so long, and even if it comes out, are we really going to care? Because we've been waiting for so fucking long.

Or not waiting, I've been waiting for the P-Tape. It's like the new Guns N' Roses. It's just not. Oh, have they been teasing a new album for years? They were for a long time. Chinese democracy. Chinese democracy, yeah. Yeah, and then who knows if after the midterms,

that shakeup goes down, Lindsey Graham could be the attorney general. We don't know. Because it could be a lot of chess moves being set up where Robert Mueller could be like, all right, I'll do it after the midterms and maybe we'll see if there'll be a Congress or a House at least that will be willing to do something with this information. But then maybe that's when Trump goes, activate Lindsey Graham, boot Jeff Sessions out, legal smiegel, peace to you.

Activate Lindsey Graham. Yeah, activate robot Graham. And then he comes through, unless he's Secretary of Defense, which is another weird thing being said. And you're like, what? Yeah, what is his expertise that makes him just a good candidate for all jobs? Because he's not a person with a military background who could be like, absolutely not. What are you talking about? Yeah, it's like when they put Ben Carson and in charge of

HUD right because of the word urban yeah he's like in maybe he's like you know Lindsey Graham's defensive a lot of the times yeah you're gonna want to put a socially deficient brain surgeon in charge of that one HUD housing and urban development yeah all right guys let's lighten it up a little bit let's talk inefficient brain surgeon in charge of that one. HUD, Housing and Urban Development. Yeah. All right, guys, let's lighten it up a little bit. Let's talk about what people are watching, what people are distracting themselves with.

So The Conners aired last night, and I want credit. The day that they canceled Roseanne, I said, okay, this is what you need to do, guys. You need to Valerie this shit. Valerie was a TV show where the lead actress, the titular Valerie, was asking for too much money, and they just killed her off and changed the show to The Hogan Family. Boom.

I said, do that, and we already have the way that Roseanne should die. We've already found out this season that she has an issue with opioids. And that's how a lot of people in that part of the country are dying. So it would be believable. That is exactly what they did. So you see the matrix. I see the matrix. Wow.

But it did about half the ratings as the premiere of Roseanne. And the right is taking that know a victory in the culture wars except no one asked for this no one I know that's like a liberal was like yeah we need the Connors all of us were like we can move on with our lives like you tried it you had a season some money was made we can all move on yeah it's interesting because a lot of the things i've read about this reboot have been like it's actually like a different completely different show now that like actually seems to begin to represent all kinds of people not just like being like the hey we got to talk about what people on the right talk about and left a little more realistic a

little more moving but i never watched roseanne or cared about the show. So the whole, yeah, I mean, I'm like, I'm, I'm in that same wagon too, where I'm like, Oh, okay. I watched it when I was younger. When it was good. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. When it was good, I watched it, you know,

she was funny and I wanted to be a standup comic. And so I like watched Roseanne and then it got bad and whatever, but yeah, no one, I love that. The argument is always when something like this happens, well, we owned yeah, no one, I love that. The argument is always when something like this happens, well, we owned the libs, we proved to them, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, we don't care. I don't care about the Connors.

I don't care about the Starbucks cup. I don't care about any of it. Right. Yeah. You're like, my goal is to curb racism, bring equality to the forefront of people's lives, access to education. Those are things. You can own me in that way.

Yeah, those are the – and you have. Yeah, and you have. Those are the ones you can say. That's why we're upset. It's not because of fucking Pepe the Frog t-shirt you wore at the rally. Yeah. Not to contradict everything you just said, but I specifically asked for this when Roseanne was killed. I feel like you suggested it as a way to move forward,

not that you were psyched about it. And the reason that the conservatives are wrong about the culture war is it still won the night, you guys. Still won the night in ratings. Oh, did it? Yeah, it was still the top-rated show of the evening. It's just Roseanne last year was crazy, was crazy huge. What comes on on Tuesdays? I don't even watch TV like that.

I only know 90 Day Fiance comes on on Sundays. That's the one show I know. That's a good appointment television. That's a great time. Sunday is the only show, the only night I respect for TV. So in the format that people actually watch TV on Netflix, Haunting of Hill House is the new trending

prestige drama except it's a horror show it's got a 9.1 on imdb which is i always like to look at imd imdb is the one that's like just user ratings it's like the the online poll it's like the yelp for movies yeah exactly but it's you know that, that's crazy high. 9.1. Yeah, like the highest ever is Shawshank Redemption. Like, so it's just that, you know, they like that. IMDb is impossible to get like a real, I mean, it's not impossible, but it's improbable to get a really high rating.

So what is that? How does that speak to you when you see that? Well, so I haven't seen it. Sure. Because user ratings on Rotten Tomatoes right now, something that we're seeing is there is a wide disparity between critics' ratings and user ratings, with users typically rating things higher. However, on IMDb, it always seems like, at least from what I've noticed, that their ratings tend to be lower than a lot of critics' ratings. So it's interesting to me when I see something where it's that high. I guess I'll watch that tonight.

Have a report. We're going to watch it and report back to you. It's a horror show? Is it like an American horror story kind of drama-y thing? Or is it straight up like, ah! It's like a family drama mixed with a horror where it's like flashing back and forth between. So it's like This Is Us mixed with The Last of Us?

Yes. Okay. There you go. And The Good Place is the show that everyone is going crazy about that I'm willfully behind on. I love that show. That shit's got a 96 on Metacritic for season three. So yeah, people are feeling the shit out of that.

Yeah. Are you caught up on it? I'm super caught up. I am a super fan. I think it is not just the best sitcom that's on right now. It is also genre TV. It is the best genre show that's on right now, which says a lot because I'm a huge Doctor Who fan and the new Who season came out, which I really love. I think it's great.

I like The Good Place more right now maybe maybe because it's also like, it's a sitcom and it's funny. Yeah, a little lighter. Yeah, it's just, if ever there was a time to trick people into learning ethics through the veneer of comedy, I think that it's right now. Right. Remember when things used to be objectively good

or bad? It used to be like, some things are subjective, but Nazis are bad. Right, right, right. Remember that? We can all agree on that, right? Yeah, there used to be like, some things are subjective, but Nazis are bad. Right, right, right. Remember that? We can all agree on that, right? Yeah, there used to be easy things. Yeah, that's called 2015. Yeah, yeah.

We could all agree that these things were not good. Right. Right, yeah. I mean, yeah, the writing on that show is really what sets it apart. It's because the jokes

are so well crafted and there's no wasted lines or anything. There is no waste. And Ted Danson is the best he's ever been. He is a delight to watch. I'm a huge, huge Kristen Bell fan since Veronica Mars days. I mean, if you're into that sort of thing, I think she's incredibly unlikable.

She's like the most just wonderful human spirit. Yeah, she's a charm bomb. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, charm bomb is great. And watching her and Ted Danson work together is just like, oh, my heart. Yeah. And all of the actors are amazing.

Oh, man, I love Jamila Jamal. I love Jamila. I do, too. I love Manny. I love, I think, the Doodoo Plays Chidi. Everyone in this show is so talented and they have such a great vibe together. And like you said, it's so funny.

Everything, like, it's one of those shows like Arrested Development you could watch every episode three times and you'll find something new. It's layered. Yeah, a new joke or a new background thing or some kind of a new callback. It was funny.

I had the most LA moment where her majesty, my partner, her brother was in town and we're like, Oh, let's go out to eat or whatever. And we always joke, like sometimes whenever out of town people are, we go out to eat, like we end up seeing some Hollywood shit or whatever. And lo and behold, we go to a crossroads and the entire cast of the good place was in like the private room and they like first i saw kristen bell go to the bathroom and i was like oh that's kristen bell then i saw ted dancing come come out and go to the bathroom like wait hold on kristen bell ted and then i look over them like it's everybody and it was just the most it was just a very proper moment we're like hey well

so this night the whole cast of the good place is in oh my god like the only way that could have gotten better is if they each handed you a puppy as they walked by. That's like the only way that could have gotten better. It was enough just to like see their warm glow from afar. And they were going to the bathroom a lot. You think there was like a cocaine thing going on? Hey man, I don't know. They were like sniffing and then it was right before they opened the writer's room. I don't know what happened, man. Totally. Alright, let's briefly talk

about the BET Awards because I think they're doing something right at the BET Awards. You mean like awards that make sense? Yeah, they have awards that make sense. First of all, they gave best hip-hop video to This Is America, which makes all the sense in the world. That was like the video that I feel like defined the year.

I don't know. I think it would have been I'm a Cow. There was a time. There was a time it would have been I'm a Cow. There was a time. There was a time it would have been I'm a Cow. Yeah, and then she had her weird statements that she had to clear up. She was the quickest rise and fall of the year. They have Best Mixtape, which Black Boy JB won. Best Featured Verse is my favorite.

That's a great. Dope. That's such a great award, and it's also one that I want to go back over the past 25 years and give to every year. Sit back and think about it. Retrospective awards? Yeah, retrospectively. What would win? They gave it to Cardi B

for Motorsport, but they had Drake on Look Alive, which I might have given it to. She got Hustler of the Year. Who did? Cardi B. She was raking this year. and so she when did those come on those were last night yes two nights two nights ago also they're doing something really cool with their performances now yeah where they cut them where they almost look like empire like they look like a tv show version of a movie or

an award show um they got that good lighting they got them good filters they got them good cameras cardi's performance was really really good and it would have been good either way but also just the way that it was shot it was shot like a music video not you know a lot of times with these award ceremonies it's kind of chaos and so you know the directors like here and there and wherever and trying to catch you know stuff with their eyes and in this case i feel like they caught all of the good stuff yeah it was just it was really beautiful i watched it and i was like go ahead bet yeah well i think because yeah you know they're because they've got their new they've got a new head right yeah i think recently yeah and i think it also probably helps that they're probably not using the same production

teams that do all the other award shows which is why they begin to just feel a bit like homogenous right whereas this one they're like oh fuck it we can do our own thing like if it's a little more high concept why not and you end up getting something that looks a lot better yeah but one thing speaking of cardi b i just have to add this so i was reading she has a new album coming out or she's been working on a new album and apparently there are tracks that are dressed Nicki Minaj so we know that during fashion week Cardi came for Nicki's throat but her Nicki's security got in the way and Cardi walked out with that lump on her head but she walked out with her chin up and did us proud and you know things have been simmering between them especially

because Nicki's you know as her stock falls a little bit and Cardi's rises, she's not really liking the fact that there's her movement is downward and Cardi's is upward. But, you know, apparently like Cardi's camp is a little split. Some half are like, yo, just bury the hatchet. It's going to just forget it. Let's just move on because you're doing great. There's no need to get down. Don't punch down.

Don't punch down. And then other people, probably the BX side of things are like yo fuck that like come for her neck i mean i think it would have been different if it wasn't for the fact that nikki had a radio show for what like two months which is baffling um but she had a radio show for like two months and she had a whole entire episode about cardi right um that was basically like her shane Dawson, like the mind of Cardi B. Right, right, right. Where she was like bringing in people and interviewing them and all that stuff. And, you know, I, it's, Cardi has said that she tried to talk to her and in person and

every time in person she tried to talk to her and Nikki, and I think that's where Cardi gets angry where it's like, I tried to work this out with her woman to woman. And she didn't want to and so now I'm throwing shoes and now she's like now look at my hands because they say todos

todos because I honestly I hope Cardi just goes for I would like I would enjoy this I mean I hope

I hope it doesn't get like you know messy overboard but I also yeah let's not get messy Cardi's a mom and Nikki's a person and no one no one wants

ultra violence we just want like a little we just want like a little bit of violence yeah like just two punches that's a little mess a little mess not a full-on mess like you're gonna call eco lab to clean up the mess i don't even want a broken nose i don't want any of that but like just one good punch the bloody lip her leaving that altercation with like a cartoon lump on her head. That's good. That's good. Yeah. It's like.

But the thing was, that wasn't even Nikki though. That was her security. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I just think, I think it would be interesting because clearly Nikki's shown her,

her love of getting messy and being petty. Yeah. It also sucks that it's like, y'all are the two biggest women in the industry right now. And it's like, you can't be adults.

What I would rather is that they get together and be adults. But if you're not going to be adults, then – That's the thing with hip-hop. You know, a lot of beefs are solved on wax. Well, on the BET Awards, Cardi cleaned up because they were both nominated in the Made You Look Award for Best Hip-Hop Style. And Cardi B won over Nicki Minaj. Look, I love Nicki. But her, she was having, and she replaced her hair and makeup people. But a lot of her hair and makeup was not, or her hair and clothes, a lot of her stuff was like not good this year.

It was aggressively bad. And Cardi dresses like Beyonce. Right. Cardi dresses like, she's got the best team. She's serving looks. She's serving her everything. Cardi wears outfits that you could wear to the Oscars. Like Cardi, her team is managing it so perfectly.

And with Nicki, unfortunately, and again, she did replace her people. So they'll start finding a style that works for her. A lot of her stuff is, you know, it's very Nicki Minaj. And if you love the Nicki Minaj style, that's her style. But it's also very like, it's not. Playing dress up? Yeah, it's not like couture. Yeah, it's costume.

Yeah, Cardi is couture. A lot of her stuff. And she does wear some costume. Yeah, for sure. I would love to see Nicki in more couture looks. Maybe but maybe you know just solve this on the runway ladies right yeah walk off for your life exactly for your life exactly sachet you stay well danielle it's been so fun having you where can people uh find you follow you on social media oh um i am at danielle radford on twitter if you find me on Instagram, that is

just Danielle underscore Radford. I do have a Patreon now. It is the tiers are very cheap because I have figured out how much I can charge people to listen to me talk about wrestling and it is five dollars a month. So I'm going to try to see about getting some extra tiers and adding some more stuff on. But at least once a week, like I hang out with my patrons and we'll like watch something together and chat and stuff. So I try to be very, you know, available. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Okay. What do you guys hang out on? We have a Discord. There you go. Yeah, so we'll be like, we're going to watch Total Divas. And so we'll get together in the room

and we'll talk and we'll chat and we'll make fun and whatever. Or we'll watch like a movie starring like a wrestler. Or, you know, if there's a pay-per-view that day, we'll watch the pay we'll make fun, and whatever. Or we'll watch a movie starring a wrestler. Or if there's a pay-per-view that day, we'll watch the pay-per-view together. There you go. Yeah, it's really fun. And is there a tweet that you have been enjoying?

So as y'all know, we talked about today, Cassie and Diddy broke up. Oh, yes. We didn't talk about it on the show, but before, yes. We talked about it before the show. Nursing our wounds. You know, we've been dealing with that. And of course, Cassie and Diddy breaking up has brought out all of the pick me's on Twitter.

All the people who like to tell a woman what a woman can do with her body and all of her stuff. And so someone wrote, it's at Athabz wrote. Great handle. Right. At Athabz wrote. Great handle. Right. Cassie gets your salary 100 times over for posting on Instagram, as well as money every time you want to remember who she is and play her song.

But you're saying she's left with nothing? What is nothing? The ring you're dying for is filled with debt and surprise STIs, Poliza. Ooh, look at that. Not to STI shame. But I just read that and i was like oh that's good yeah all the takes are like man she's gonna be broke so many of them are like i'm at least married it's like yeah but y'all broke and your husband got ashy feet what are you talking about not me don't look at my feet my wiki look at him yeah my wiki fee score will be fucked up miles where can people find you and

follow you and what's the tweet you've been enjoying? Okay, we can go there. Let's go there. If you want to find me on Twitter or Instagram, I'm at Miles of Gray. A tweet I like has been about, you know, Roseanne. She has something to say about the revamp of the show. And she all caps said, I ain't dead, bitches. And Natasha Rothwell, amazing Natasha Rothwell, quote retweeted and said, your career begs to differ.

So you know what? She's so funny. Take a seat, Roseanne. She's so, oh, I am on wiki feet. You are? My feet are just okay. Fuck you. See, now you got to put in that work.

Yo, your face right now is. So okay. Fuck you. See, now you got to put in that work. Yo, your face right now is- I am so mad. Pure rage. It's shock. You are aghast. They're big. They're wide. Fuck you.

My feet are wonderful. How do I get a three? Oof. Oh, no. Hey, everybody go to Danielle's WikiFeed page and boost those ratings real quick. Please. Are there photos of your feet on there? Well, because I had one with a cat.

Yes, there's a photo of my feet. Wow. On my Instagram. your feet on there? Well, because I had one with a cat. Yes, there's a photo of my feet on Instagram. Wow. I didn't, yo, I guess. Wow, this was updated. Today. Like in August of this year.

Someone went really far back. Okay, well, we're going to help you with the ratings. We'll get you to at least a. I'm so upset right now.

My feet are good. They get me to where I'm going. Look, sometimes it's about function and not form, sis. And also, don't let a fucking website tell you about what your feet are worth. You know what I mean? I legitimately... Throw that shit away.

No, no, we're not hearing it. No, I'm tweeting about this. No, we're boosting my foot. We're boosting it. In addition to whatever Danielle just tweeted about wicky feet, a tweet I've been enjoying is from at Doug Exeter says to the tune of American Woman Mohammed bin

Salman that's it that's it we have an aka for him if you ever want to come on TDZ what's wrong I wouldn't even I wouldn't even talk to him over FaceTime I

feel like I could get got over FaceTime somehow you can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien you follow us on Twitter I wouldn't even talk to him over FaceTime. I feel like I could get got over FaceTime somehow. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. You can also find that information in the shanots uh miles what song are we gonna ride out on today you know there's a track i just heard uh you know because money seems to make the world go around from whether or not we care about people disappearing or journalists exercising their right to free speech or whatever, or making massive arms deals or the WWE, whatever. So this track is aptly named Money by Leisure. And, you know, this is just a good, it's a good warm up to the weekend.

It's Thursday. You're getting your shoulders loose. You know what I mean? You're getting your toes loose to jump up in your boot. So now listen to this track and get free. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.

We'll talk to you then. Bye. Bye. Cool it down Before you hit the ground Sort it out before you twist it up Mm-hmm. Sick and tired of messing around. Light up the good way to play around. Money ain't no good to me. Money ain't no good to me. Ooh, yeah. Money ain't no good to me

Money ain't no good to me Money ain't no good to me Hold it down Before you Breathe it out Stack it up Before you Lose your touch Seek and tire of

Messing around Light a cookie We can play around Take your time of messing around Light a hookah We can play around No, no, you're not good to me

No, no, you're not good to me Ooh, yeah me oh Money, money, no good to me Money, money, no good to me Money, money, no good to me, money, money No good to me, money, money Money, not good to me I know you're not good to me I know you're not good to me I know you're not good to me

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