The Daily Zeitgeist - Jurassic Park OGs, RUDY IS FINE 9.26.19

Episode Date: September 26, 2019

In episode 482, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Eric Lampaert to discuss Jurassic Park 3 getting the gang back together, the CIA memo about Trump's call with the Ukrainian president, Rudy Giulia...ni losing his mind on Fox, Mitch McConnell pushing through the resolution to release the whistleblower complaint, Trump's approval rating, Samuel L. Jackson signing on as the first celebrity voice of Alexa, the unsettling story of the adopted 6 year old Ukrainian girl, and more! FOOTNOTES;1. Jurassic World 3’s Nostalgic Casting, Explained2. MEMO ON TRUMP CALL WITH UKRAINE PRESIDENT3. Rudy Giuliani is losing it. This is Infowars-type stuff.4, Wow. Here's Rudy Giuliani throwing the State Department under the bus and saying State officials called him and asked him to get involved in Ukraine.5. LOL! Rudy Giuliani made a guest appearance later during Ingraham's show and immediately started calling a co-panelist "an idiot" and yelling at him to "shut up."6. McConnell says Senate will 'find out what happened' on whistleblower complaint7. Trump’s approval ratings are bad news for Democrats8. Samuel L. Jackson Signs On As First Amazon Alexa Celebrity Voice9. EXCLUSIVE: 'She tried to kill us!' Indiana mother who adopted 6-year-old Ukrainian girl with dwarfism has been charged with abandonment but claims her 'daughter' was found to be a 22-year old 'sociopath' masquerading as a child10. WATCH: SKULL SNAPS - It's A New Day (1973) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck coke industries and fuck fox moves. It's Thursday, September 26, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. The Daily Zeit. Geist comes on at dawn.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It'll come tomorrow. Unless it's the week on... Courtesy of Hannah Saltis. Stretch that one. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Ray! Ooh, hot takes so scandalous. And no another pod can't handle it. We be dropping knowledge like who's it is. host, Mr. Miles Ray! know Trump fuck fuck miles like what what what Zack ain't move your butt butt butt I think I'm singing again off the top Fox News fuck fuck fuck and coke industries what what all night long let me rip that bong had to rip the bong oh man love man. Love it. Finding a sweet spot.
Starting point is 00:03:25 People are starting to understand maybe what's hitting nostalgic points for me. Yes, Cisco Thong Song spoke to my heart. Yes, at Ross X Andy. Ross Andy in the morning. Thank you for that. That was fire, Ross. Was that the morning show? Ross and Andy in the morning.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Ross and Andy in the morning. Or maybe they're just friends who hang out in the morning. I don't know. When you look on bio, I don't see a link. I don't see link in bio to any work. Now, Hannah Soltis was the creator of My A.K.A. Yes. And
Starting point is 00:03:57 I don't often tell you how to do your job, but that was not ambitious enough for a Miles AK. You had sent it at Miles. That's more my range where it's only, it requires very little singing. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Hannah should be honored because it caused a fight over an AK. Yeah. Yeah, we fought over it. Because you were like, well, I think this is kind of more my speed. I'm like, well, that's weird, Jack, because you're not tagged in there. I know. And I noticed. I'm like, well, that's weird, Jack, because you're not tagged in here. I know. And I noticed.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I noticed. So thanks for that. See, I think that's a high honor, though, to have people fighting over your AKs. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented comedian and performer, Mr. Eric Lampere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep back. I want an AK.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. When's my AK? Do it. What's, um, let's see. It's Lampere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep back. I want an AK. Yeah. When's my AK? Do it. What's, let's see. It's Lampere. I can feel it. Lampere with a nice red. No.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Do you know MC Solar, the French MC? Maybe there's something you can do there. Ages ago, yeah. Nouveau Western. Great song. You know what, for next time. I just want something for next time. No, no, this is the show now. This is it right now. We're just going to be writing a song. Let'sau Western. Great song. You know, for next time. I just want something for next time. No, no. This is the show now. This is it right now. We're just going to be writing
Starting point is 00:05:07 a song. Let's workshop this. Yes. It's Eric up my heart when I'm with... No. It's Eric up my heart is pretty good. Yeah. It's Eric Lampere. Well, anyway, we'll figure something out. It's Eric Lampere. Yeah. I wish your name was
Starting point is 00:05:23 hyphenated and your name was Eric Lampere heart Lampere heart it's Eric Lampere heart when I'm with you when you're on this pod I see it's true it's Eric Lampere's art
Starting point is 00:05:40 when I'm when he's on I like that you take it this seriously. I appreciate it. Eric, we're gonna get to know you a little better. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a new Jurassic Park movie.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Thank God. And they're bringing the gang back together. Folks. Folks! Laura Dern, Sam Neill, and that kid that Sam Neill threatens to kill at the beginning. Yeah, who's like, sounds like a giant turkey to me. Right. He's like, oh yeah, until he spills your guts on me.
Starting point is 00:06:12 No, Jeff Goldblum's the third. We're going to talk, of course, about the transcript that has been released. Or memo. Memo. Yeah, whatever you want to call it. They released a not transcript. I'm confused by that, that they don't have an actual transcript of the conversations that the president is having. But we'll talk about that, what it is, whether it is a transcript and whether we're surprised by anything.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I personally was not. Okay. We're going to talk about why Mitch McConnell hotlined that resolution to release the complaint. We're going to talk about the fact that Trump's approval rating appears to be going up, shooting through the roof. We're going to just check in with Fox, see how shooting through the roof of a basement. Yes, we're going to check in with Fox, see how they're dealing with all this bad news about Mr. Trump. We're going to talk about what Trump was talking about in the conversation when he started
Starting point is 00:07:15 talking about, what is it? Strike something? Strike. Crowd strike. Crowd strike. Which conspiracy theory he was pulling out of his adult mind at that point. AOC's new plan for inequality. Samuel L. Jackson's new voice on Alexa.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He's going to be the voice of Alexa. Oh, hell yeah. 22 year old possibly 22 year old child from ukraine who was adopted and maybe a 22 year old con artist sociopath all of that and plenty more but first eric we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are well uh the brazen bull i was i was researching some methods of torture and uh there's a really good one called the brazen bull where it's a bronze bull and you put the victim inside the bull and you close the hatch
Starting point is 00:08:12 and there's only a little gap where you can breathe and it's like a pipe that goes through the bull's mouth and so you breathe through that and then what they do is they light a little fire underneath the bull's belly.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And as the torturous screams come out of the pipes, it sounds like a bull sort of... Oh, because it's sort of being forced through this tube, so it loses its human... Wow. That's how they used to do special effects. The earliest Foley artists. Involved putting somebody inside of whatever the object was you were trying to put life into and torturing them. Yes, I was researching that.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I just wish that, you know, Jack Bauer on 24 used that sort of... Yeah. We need some more information. Get him in the bowl. It's really heavy, Jack. Get the bowl. Who developed this wonderful device? I believe it was for the Spanish Inquisition.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Wow. Oh, yeah, they love their bulls. Catholic church. And they love their bulls. They really wanted you to know that they love God. Yeah. Wow, that's fucking... And was that used...
Starting point is 00:09:19 How many people... I mean, in my mind, I feel like you would probably die very easily in there. Or it was just made just to heat it up enough that you got your bull screams, the court would laugh, and then out you go. Dr. Torquemada. Mr. Torquemada on his way. I don't know, but also it would make for a good oven.
Starting point is 00:09:35 If you did end up killing the person, you could have a buffet at the end. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. A cannibal buffet? Yeah. That's got to be the name of the band, right? Cannibal buffet? Yeah. I mean, you know.. That's got to be the name of the band, right? Cannibal buffet? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I mean, you know. If it's not, definitely the name of the band. Mr. Tomás de Torquemada. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, tandem bicycles. I had a real good think about this. Wow. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Sounds like you almost hit somebody in a car if it was right in tandem. I just, I've never seen someone happy on a tandem bicycle for the first 30 seconds, a minute. Yes. And then after that, the second person behind is like, well, this is shit. It's like, I'm just looking at your back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I don't get to control any of this. I see a lot of tandem bikes near Venice and it always seems like a thing people just do because it's a thing to do, not because it's a thing they want to do. Right. It's like, you know what would be cool? Right. Let's ride like tandem bikes like by the beach, like in California style. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And they're like, oh yeah. Then they rent it out for like two hours. And I'm like, this is stupid. Yeah. Until you have to navigate around people like that. And then there's always like the angry rollerbladers around the Venice boardwalk who are like, get out the way. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:41 But you know. I think there's no joy in tandem bicycles and I think they should be destroyed, all of them. Good. It's not fun for the person in the front, or it's not any more fun than would be a single bike, right? Like single bikes, you know, you get to see each other's journeys, and maybe you follow each other, and you separate, and you get a little bit.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's freedom. It's freedom. It's freeing when you're on a bicycle solo. And if one of you falls, the other one can have a hearty laugh. But if both of you fall, you're both dead. I guess also too, if you think about it, right, there isn't, what's the benefit to it being a tandem bike? It's not necessarily like, oh man, you get fucking speed when you got two people. I get like, if you're in a canoe or whatever, yeah, two people, it might be better than one or something like that.
Starting point is 00:11:23 But a bike, I think aside from just being like. it's like a double mint gum commercial from the 80s. I think that's it. I think it was that double mint gum. I mean, obviously it wasn't invented for that. But bike technology has always been suspect. The first bicycle was the Penny Farthing. It was the giant wheeled bike. Oh, the big Penny Farthing.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah, and then they were like, what if we made them the same size? Wouldn't that be crazy? Oh, get out of here, you heretic. Right. Well, if it brings you a little joy, my underrated is the Penny Farthing. Oh, wow. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Go on, sir. That is so on brand. I just thought, you know what? Bring them back. They actually bring joy to people. I feel like, well, at least, they definitely bring a joy to me seeing somebody on it. Because I think it's so dumb.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But it's also penny farthing racing. In the UK, for example. Oh, of course. There is penny farthing racing. And then like the people that watch the racing, they have bells. It's just very old school. Where is it? Is it a specific part of the UK?
Starting point is 00:12:23 I'm not too sure. But somewhere where people have been forgotten. Right. And do women wear like fascinators too? Is it like posh or no? Is it very... Oh, I don't know. I think there's a nice blend.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. I feel like if I'm going to a penny farthing race and I'm a woman, I'm throwing a fascinator on. Right. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. People don't know what fascinators are. It's the fancy things you see people wear, like the Jubilee just like a feathered accessory purpose non-hat yeah does none of the work of a hat but uh it's fascinating yeah it's a
Starting point is 00:12:52 gesture towards a hat it's like having a hat shaped object pinned to the side of your head yeah i just i just think we should bring it back you know the roaring 20s are about to come upon us no and i think that would be one of the things. I think they've come all over our face. Wow. Sorry, that was too much. Cool. Ring the alarm. I think they're back.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I'm still processing what you said, Jack. But the penny farthing. Have you ridden a penny farthing before? No, I haven't. Are they difficult to ride? I like that they exist. Yeah, yeah. Tandem bicycles, I fucking hate them.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Wow. Yeah, honestly, I have a real anger. Actually, I am seeing a therapist because of the tandem bicycles I fucking hate them wow yeah honestly I have a real anger yeah yeah actually I am seeing a therapist because of the tandem bicycles the tandem right and what they have the effect that they have on me
Starting point is 00:13:32 yeah Penny Farthing yeah there's no other find me one person that looks like Penny Farthing and just gets angry no one
Starting point is 00:13:40 he won't find a single person no I mean again it's I think you would and they would probably be wearing a mega hat, like that sort of thing. Like, what is this bullshit? What is this European bullshit? The thing, though...
Starting point is 00:13:55 Oh, wow. I'm looking at a video of the City of London's penny-farthing race, and these people have, like... They're kind of modern. I'm not going to lie. Oh, really? This ain't your great-great-great-great-grandfather's penny-farthing. Huh. This is like... They look like they have, like, graph're kind of modern. I'm not going to lie. Oh, really? This ain't your great, great, great, great grandfather's penny farthing. Huh?
Starting point is 00:14:07 This is like, they look like they have like graphite frames and shit. Damn, that's fucking. I just feel like to eat shit on one of these bikes would be so dangerous. That's why it's wonderful. You're hospitalized, guaranteed. We have free healthcare in Europe, so we can take more risks. Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Well, we would do the same thing here. We're just still figuring it out. Maybe that's why you guys have tandem bicycles. Maybe one of you has got healthcare, so at least you can take the risk. Then you can lie about who's the one who got injured. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, this is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Are these tall? Are they tall penny farthings? Yeah. They're pretty tall. Yeah, yeah. Oh, they have to be. Yeah, that is how. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Interesting. Well, shout out to all the pro penny farthers being wow watching them go around a turn is pretty is something else because they're leaning all the way over i just like to see a motorized penny farthing yeah yeah which in the future you often see these big wheeled right uh like sort of vehicles where you where you enter the wheel and then just ride off and we ride off in a wheel. And you ride off in that wheel. Yeah, it reminds me of the light cycle from Tron. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Legacy. Hell yeah. Well, what's a myth? Oh. You're just engrossed in these Penny Farthing Racing videos. A lot going on over here. Last time I was on the show, I tried to debunk the myth of concepts. And I was like, how do I one up this?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Which I thought was quite challenging to deconstruct the abstraction of ideas. So this one, I really put some thought into it. And people might not like this one, but I really, I think I found something. I think the NRA is actually very good. Oh, wow. Interesting. I think it's really, really good for the country. Tell me why.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Not really assholes. I think that's what they stand for. Because secretly, right? For every death that happens via gun, the carbon footprint goes down drastically. So they're... And so I think the NRA is actually the best America has for climate change. Wow. That's change wow that's dark it's dark but sadly
Starting point is 00:16:07 there's an element of truth to it there's what 40,000 people that die per gas each year think of the carbon footprint! when you think of that and our inability as a country to actually address climate change in a way you're like but interesting
Starting point is 00:16:24 I think that secretly, you know, they get bad reps, but to distract you from the fact that actually they're trying to do some really good work. Right. And when are you going on Joe Rogan? Is that next week? I mean, that might work if everybody in the NRA didn't think that climate change was a hoax, right?
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yeah, but that's the cover-up. Ah, got it. So they actually, they don't want you to think that they're was a hoax, right? Yeah, but that's the cover-up. So they actually, they don't want you to think they're doing a good job. They want to be hated while saving the environment. And now they're just broke and don't know where to go.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And if the NRA folds, we really are fucked as a nation with climate. Yeah, because we'll see what happens with our ability to address climate change in the country. Right. Or maybe they'll just insist that consumers do whatever they can so industries don't have to. Is that a admitted, acknowledged take that birth control is part of the climate change debate?
Starting point is 00:17:19 Because I think like Bernie might have said that during one of the debates or something. He was like, well, you know, I think it starts with birth control. Or he like put that in there while he was on the topic of climate change. Oh, interesting. And it seemed like it was a little bit of a dark road to walk down. Guns are a type of birth control. Right. Well, is he saying that access to birth control for women for unwanted pregnancies?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Right. That in general, maybe not just in the case of abortion. Right. Just generally all forms of birth control. All forms of birth control. Is that what he meant? Yeah, maybe. I don't recall this line.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But again, I'm not going on Joe Rogan later. Yeah. I might be. I don't know. I did get that talking point from a guest I learned about on the Joe Rogan podcast a guy by the name of Alex Jones cool
Starting point is 00:18:12 well yeah I think you've opened a lot of minds today at the very least maybe a couple of dark chuckles this is the dark morbid timeline we're in, right? We're just sort of looking at our...
Starting point is 00:18:28 It's a very interesting time now. Really, what I was trying to do is highlight the fact that guns are actually killing people. Oh, is that what you meant? Well, I don't agree with that at all, then. I like that other take. Well, speaking of dark timelines,
Starting point is 00:18:42 the new Jurassic Park movie is bringing the gang back together into a world in which, spoiler alert, I guess, at the end of the last Jurassic Park movie. I guess, look, if you don't want, we'll do our spoiler alert warning. Yeah. If you don't want Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom, I believe was the last one. If you don't want it spoiled for you, skip ahead 10 hours. Yeah. Okay, go.
Starting point is 00:19:07 The dinosaurs were all people in dinosaur suits. Oh, fuck. Isn't that crazy? I haven't seen it. No, so the dinosaurs escaped into the world. Is that what happens at the end of the last one? I've admittedly got halfway through and fell asleep. I didn't get any of the
Starting point is 00:19:25 way through it but accidentally turned it on when i was trying to catch what was on after it and so right there's like a post credits thing where a pterodactyl like lands on some uh monument i forget if it was like a vegas thing... Oh, wow. So in the last one, dinosaurs are released into the earth. Yeah, but not just that though. I also, if I remember correctly, InGen, who are in charge of the embryos, were trying to weaponize dinosaurs. So if you can control Velociraptors
Starting point is 00:19:59 and Stegosauruses and stuff and just send them into war instead of humans, you can do some damage. Or policing our streets to criminalize the unhoused. Right. Maybe that's what their ultimate thing is too. Yeah, like a T-Rex just in charge of the homeless. Yeah, or like a Stegosaurus just doing that.
Starting point is 00:20:14 But I think- It's a great way to enforce a curfew. Oh, right. Just like, dude, don't fuck- The T-Rex comes out. There's a Velociraptor curfew team that comes out, and they will eviscerate you if you're out there. I was actually thinking of that kid who you were talking about from the first one.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah. His name is Wit Hertford. Yeah. I've actually, we got a pitch from him. Oh, really? Yeah, back at Cracked. Oh, wow. He looks the same still.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah, he looks identical. It's very odd. Yeah. So he's the one that Sam Neill sort of threatens with the- Raptor claw. Yeah, raptor claw. Across his belly. What, he looks identical. Yeah. So he's the one that Sam Neill sort of threatens with the raptor claw. He's like, what does he say? He's like, he looks like a big turkey to me. And Sam Neill is like,
Starting point is 00:20:54 yeah, he'd tear your guts up, kid. Yeah, he's like, he'd slash you here. And your insides would spill out in front of you. Right, and then Laura Dern's like, maybe you shouldn't have a kid. Yeah, and we're all like, that's our protagonist's our protagonist i was looking at his credits he was a dancer in pharrell's happy video yeah amongst many other things too but i'm just gonna choose to look at that i wonder if he was happy to do that or his agent just forced him to do it right i mean well technically wasn't that a
Starting point is 00:21:21 24-hour music video what is the whole happy video was like an art piece. That seems too long. Yeah, that was 24 hours. Oh, really? Yeah, there'll be like hour one, and it's all over. Like, there are many people who are in the happy video. Did anyone watch the whole thing? Like, that feels very Clockwork Orange.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I remember when it came out, I was working in radio, so everyone was talking about it. I watched maybe 10 minutes, because after that song loops for like the fourth time, you're like, oh, yeah, I don't. Thanks. I see Angela Trimber dancing at a gas station and I saw some other people I knew. And then I was like, I think this is it. I don't see anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Right. But hey, look, it's an art piece. Because I have a question. Do we think Laura Dern is somehow too big to be in this Jurassic Park film? In my mind mind because of big little lies i feel like she's i don't know in my mind i've elevated laura dern to this other thing well it's just that it's just that it felt like she sort of uh disappeared for a while right and then she came back and she smashed it in big little lies yeah yeah and i mean the whole team
Starting point is 00:22:19 in big little lies very very good yes right um but no i mean in a way jurassic park it's not what made her but certainly like definitely put her on the map put her on the map right so i think maybe as an actor you'd have that sort of respect right jurassic park that you do like oh like yeah but i hope the script is good because they keep messing it up i'm i am kind of annoyed with jurassic well it went from a michael crichton novel, which has already its very interesting elements to it, to then these tentpole films that are just like, hey, you want to see fucking dinosaurs? Fuck shit up.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Right. Essentially, it was like Fast and Furious with dinosaurs. Yeah. But I'm still going to watch it. I love Steven Diesel riding a... It's all about family, man. Albatosaurus, yeah. Drinking Miller Lights at the end.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Kind of went the direction of Michael Crichton's career. Things were going really well, and then he started doing climate change hoax stuff. He did? Yeah, at the very end. Oh, no. Yeah. Wait, like being like, I don't know about y'all. Yeah, his last book was about how the whole climate change thing is a hoax.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Interesting. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. R.I.P. And he gave us Westworld, too. Yeah a hoax. Interesting. Wow. R.I.P. There you go, Michael. And he gave us Westworld too. Yeah, he did. And Sphere.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And so many things. Yeah. Westworld was in the 70s, I believe. Right. It was a movie he wrote in the 70s. So what, do we cancel him now? Do we cancel his entire career? Posthumously?
Starting point is 00:23:40 That's not up to us. There's actually a cancel council. Right. A cancel council. Yeah, then we submit that to the cancel council, and then they will determine, they will hand down their determination at the end of- Bring in the next sacrifice. Goldblum seems also, I mean, I don't think she's too big.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Well, not that she's too big. I just feel like she has the most swag to me now. Big, Miles. Oh, boy. Can we get a bomb? Thank you, sir. Because that was explosive. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I think I just have become a Renata fan. Yeah. No, she's incredible. And I think that's what I mean. Yeah. And, I mean, that performance is so big that it almost doesn't feel like it seems like she should be working on more challenging stuff than the character from jurassic park who's just like sam well maybe she'll scream
Starting point is 00:24:32 at the dinosaurs i will never not be rich or something and they're like whoa what that was that in the script let's keep that although the sexual tension between her and jeff goldblum in that one scene where he's like let me see see your hand. Putting the water on there? Yeah, putting the water on the hand. I used to do that as a pickup line. Oh, anyone that talks to me about Kyle's theory. Yeah. Honestly. Can get it.
Starting point is 00:24:51 All the variations, all the little hairs. All right. We're going to take a quick break while Miles keeps doing that to my hand. It's all hot cold brew I'm putting on your hand. It's cold. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
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Starting point is 00:27:09 of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day
Starting point is 00:27:25 and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:27:46 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:28:26 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And it's time to get into impeachment.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah. They pulled one on us the other day. They did. Right after we record, then they decide to open up an official impeachment inquiry. Yeah. I mean, we kind of knew it was coming. Yeah. I mean, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Nice to be on the same page though, Nancy. Yeah. It was already confusing what changed other than it was like a press conference for her to be like, but I'm on board this time. Right. Now I'm doing it. I think maybe she felt the Russia stuff and all the emoluments and all the other things they would have wanted to fold into the impeachment inquiry prior to this was just a little too tenuous or something. It wasn't nailed on.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And then you have the president admitting to it where it's like, oh, fuck. Right. Thank you. But I mean, they were already in an impeachment inquiry. And she was just like, and now we're really opening an impeachment inquiry. Officially, right? Because what Jerry Nadler did was sort of set the terms of what it would look like. So it was like a movement in that direction, but this is the full-on being like, okay, now there'll be officially an inquiry.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Got it. With all six committees looking into it. You know, despite all the chaos that he's created, there is something kind of weirdly enjoyable in watching what is happening yeah isn't it like obviously with all the horrible hatred that he's yeah i mean right there's a bit of schadenfreude right where you're like okay maybe this is the act where the bad guy maybe is held accountable yeah but i don't know i think a lot Americans, too, just have this dark fucking cynical feeling that nothing will ever end this. Right. Which is also my concern.
Starting point is 00:30:50 But I feel like there is something I take joy in. It's mostly Rudy Giuliani losing his shit every time he's on the news. Because now, as we have, you know, the transcript, as quote-unquote as they call it, it's really a memo that's basically a lot of the... An impressionistic transcript. Yes, exactly. Where other people, intelligence people, are listening in on a call
Starting point is 00:31:14 and just jotting everything down so you have a nice summation of what happened. And even then, it's very clear. By the way, we should explain for people, a transcript is like a sort of PDF file that feels like inside a sort of Word document. Yes. Thank you. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yes, thank you. Thank you for advocating for our audience who might not know about what a transcript is. Right. So even with this, it gets so, but even in the transcript, right, it's very clear. The Ukrainian president's like, hey, I think we're ready to buy these anti-tank missiles. We need to fight the Russians. And the response is, okay, I need you to do me a favor, though. Which to me sounds pretty clearly like when you use the word though, that's sort of the operative word there.
Starting point is 00:32:00 You're saying, okay, I understand that. However, there's this thing I'm asking you for. Whether or not they're going to argue that it's just you know it's all misunderstanding it's bullshit whatever fine but if you the 250 million dollars trump was actively withholding from him were not overtly mentioned in uh the right there's no price tag right i don't know what i don't know what the tit for tat is right and again if you really think about if you really want to get that fucking myopically focused on what it is like well he didn't say those words just imagine the situation right you're a newly elected president in a country
Starting point is 00:32:32 where the eastern part of your country is being annexed actively by the russians right you have you do not have the means to defend yourself you're relying on foreign aid to do that you're in a dark dire situation that where like the stability of your entire country rests on the protection of this region or being able to at least fight off this insurgency. And your funds are withheld by a government who told you they like help is on the way. And then suddenly it's like, oh, that guy from the country that you need a ton of shit from wants to talk. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And then you get on the phone and it's like, hey, Joe Biden, huh? Maybe she's looking at Joe Biden, huh? What do you think about Joe Biden? Oh, you want javelins here? First thing, Joe Biden, though. Right. The second defense spending, he's like, yeah, we could buy some things, some weapons from you.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Trump starts asking him to look into the first thing he asked him to look into is a dnc server hack thing that will explain what that is a little bit later but then he goes into the biden thing right so can i ask quickly yeah how does the transcript get written is there a human being that actually has to listen there's a group of there's a group of people that are listening in on a call and then transcribing what's and is it ai that automatically does it? Like Siri, you know, you can talk to your phone and it just automatically gets read. I think there's a blend from what I've heard from past NSC,
Starting point is 00:33:50 like people who've been doing interviews this last week, from the Bush era to the Obama, it's pretty much the same thing. The only difference with Trump is that it's less people now involved in listening in, but they do use a mix of like, I think, technology to sort of help uh transcribe things but also there's a lot of humans also doing it to also figure out the nuance so they can
Starting point is 00:34:10 actually put that in the summary right so can we take a moment of silence for the people that have to do that yeah yeah yeah that is what a job that's a job yeah yeah to listen to that man and have to write down his words yeah right ah well and i think it got it got worse because after that one transcript that got leaked where he was begging the mexican president to be like hey can you just stop saying like i'm gonna pay for it like right i don't it doesn't help me right like when that came out i think they really tightened the leash on that group because they're like i mean i know he said it and looked completely ineffective as a leader, but like, please don't leak this. So now only like a couple people here. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:34:49 we all get how big this controversy is. Before we get to Rudy Giuliani, or yeah, let's just, I think we should get to Rudy Giuliani because when he's sort of at the center of this, because prior to this whistleblower complaint, he had been talking about going to Ukraine and talking about this Biden stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And now that like all this shit is coming on the open and maybe he wasn't able to affect the plan that they thought they could, where like magically Ukraine would be like, and here is this damning report on Joe Biden. He was very confident now that everything's coming out. He is not doing very well. He's been sort of in a downward spiral in terms of being able to spin this um but this first uh he was on laura ingram and she was really doing her best to try and act as if rudy wasn't just revealing everything yeah and just like digging a deeper hole he's like he's like shredding his lawyer i love it you know like i didn't do it i did no but i did but if i did and i did wait but here's some more yeah i don't know bye he exists in separate states at the same time it's very quantum but he uh and laura ingram
Starting point is 00:35:59 you won't hear much from her but she has very person talking to a drunk person at a wedding and like just kind of getting restless energy. Yeah. And in this case, I think what happens based on what he's talking about, Senator Chris Murphy had visited the president of Ukraine before and Zelensky told him, he's like, I think Trump might be withholding these funds because of he wants me to do some other shit. Right. And when he came back and said that, Rudy is, I think, trying to, I don't know, some weird conspiracy that, in fact, Chris Murphy was telling the president of Ukraine if the president of Ukraine didn't cooperate with the Democrats, the Democrats would with. I don't listen to this shit. Biden did or Chris Murphy, by the way, who should be impeached.
Starting point is 00:36:41 He went to see the president of the Ukraine and he told the president of the Ukraine that if that if he cooperates with the president they'll cut off aid that's a quid pro quo that's a quid pro that's threatening nancy pelosi should be outraged at chris murphy yeah he should impeach them they should impeach chris murphy okay listen it's very interesting she's really trying to be like oh what are you saying Right. This isn't good for any of us right now. Right. And it gets better. Yeah. He then, I don't know what exactly he means here.
Starting point is 00:37:12 We can talk about it on the other side. But he sort of suggests that he has receipts in case he is made to look like the total fall guy in this or something. Right. Where he is essentially scapegoating the State Department for his actions. The State Department being like Pompeo. Well, he's Secretary of State, so Secretary of State is Mike Pompeo. They deal with a lot of our foreign relations and things like that. So I don't know. He's claiming, here, listen to this.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Saying, you muck this up, your response. Man, I really did. And you know who I did it at the request of? The State Department. I never talked to a Ukrainian official until the State Department called me and asked me to do it. And then I reported every conversation back to them. And, Laura, I'm a pretty good lawyer, just a country lawyer. But it's all here, right here. Holding up his phone.
Starting point is 00:37:59 The first call from the State Department. The debriefing of the State Department. So why are they out to get you? This story is filled with unnamed sources. I will compliment myself because I do a pretty good job for him and they try to destroy everybody around him. I I'm still not sure what he's getting at, but based on what I think he is, he's saying, well, I'm not the one at fault here. I didn't just go out here randomly to fucking you know metal over there in ukraine to get something for trump right the state department
Starting point is 00:38:30 asked me to do it yeah i never spoke to a ukrainian official until the state department asked me to he also starts like laughing in the middle of it for no reason but like it's in a way that like suggest i don't know like there's this uh there's this episode of malcolm gladwell's podcast where he like talks about how uh elvis had this one part of one of his songs that he couldn't get through in live settings because he like had a mental like block around it because it was like tied to something in his childhood and like he played some of it and like he just starts he's like and well you know and like just like starts like laughing uproariously and like can't like
Starting point is 00:39:12 he's just like yeah yeah and that's what rudy giuliani sounds like there like he's like you know i got right the state department i'll tell you what well because it feels like his back's against the wall right and that's what I feel like. And his response is, well, I have motherfucking receipts upon my cell phone. Holds up his cell phone like it's the ignition switch of a fucking bomb that he's got strapped to himself.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And I wonder if it's like, oh man, that's another piece, which is why this gets even more interesting. And then he goes in his third act on Laura Ingraham's show. That's when he just starts coming apart. There's a panel of people talking. One person I think is probably saying something about how Rudy Giuliani is saying things that are probably going to worsen his situation. I'm not sure what he specifically said.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Like Laura, leave him alone. Yeah, but he goes after, Rudy goes after this panelist in a way that is very emotional. And I think might be telling of what his situation might be. But listen to this. Rudy goes after this panelist in a way that is very emotional. Yeah. And I think might be telling of what his situation might be. But listen to this. And Rudy, you've been listening to this conversation. I sure have. And I'd like to say to Mr.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Go ahead. I'd like to say, Mr. Hahn, I should sue you for libel because you irresponsibly say. Oh, please. Yeah. Well, you actually usually say incredibly stupid things. You're a public figure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And by the way, do you have any idea that the State Department So then you know the libel law. Shut up, moron. Shut up. Okay, hold on. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're talking about, idiot. I do. The state, no you don't.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You just lied. Mr. Mayor, I wish you would stop. You lied, my friend. I wish you would stop, Mr. Mayor. New Yorkers remember you in your glory and I wish you would stop. Why don't you tell him to keep his mouth shut so we can tell the truth? Wow. Just keep your lying mouth shut. Will you shut up, moron?
Starting point is 00:40:52 That guy is, I think, a former Chuck Schumer aide. Or I know he's worked for Chuck Schumer at some point. Here's something that's, I think, interesting to look at is the entire administration and the people working with them right all they they know that they're not really being honest right which means that ultimately none of them trust each other right and that's something that's kind of interesting to watch right because you think oh you know they're lying to all of us right uh but they're working as a team but actually yeah a lot of people yeah a lot of people don't consider that actually they're all lying and therefore they don't trust each
Starting point is 00:41:30 other well because then all of a sudden they're constantly looking out like over each other's back and worried and and they have to play with each other while at the same time not trusting each other right that must be a wild life to live oh it's a nightmare right it's constant constant fear and stress and then to that point i think that even underlines why rudy giuliani is like what do i know i'm just a country lawyer but i know how to protect myself in case someone wants to have evidence to right to insulate myself from something very strange appearance from him what and i think this also goes to the point of with mitch mcconnell the day before he there was chuck schumer brought uh
Starting point is 00:42:06 forth a resolution to uh to make all the whistleblower complaint material available to the respective intelligence committees in the house and the senate basically saying like they need to release it to these committees mitch mcconnell did not push back against this he fucking hotlined it which means there's no debate it just goes straight to a vote right and the senate unanimously voted for this which is very what the fuck is going on and it makes me wonder like what the fuck does mitch mcconnell know or think is going to happen it because it doesn't make sense if you asked me any other time like if like what mitch mcconnell would do i would say he would stonewall yeah because that's all he's been doing. This guy won't even fucking put up forward a bill that's passed in the house to deal with gun violence.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Right. Or fucking securing our elections. Things that have all kinds of support from the, you know, that's not going to get you in hot water with voters. But it's always meant to protect the president. And then in this instance, it's like, yeah, okay, great. No debate.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Let's everybody get in line. Unanimous consent. Let's fucking release this material now does he know what's in the material and he's thinking that's all good like we we were able to weather the muller report storm and we can fucking just we'll just lie our way out of this one or is it that it's like oh fuck does he know it's really bad and he's trying to get ahead of it by being like, I was very transparent, blah, blah, blah. So I've never pushed back against this. I know it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:43:31 You know what I mean? Like if he's trying to set himself up already to be like, no, I was with it from the beginning. I knew that was bad. Yeah. It's hard to know because this is until we start. I wonder if there are going to be any real Republican defections aside from Justin Amash from Michigan in the House. But I wonder if those— Well, Mitt Romney seems to have set himself up to defect, right?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Well, he said it's very deeply disturbing or something, which is what he said even before the transcript or whatever you want to call this thing came out. But it's evolving in this odd way. And again, there's no honor among thieves. If Mitch McConnell knows, wait, this shit is too radioactive for me to even be around. And I have to think about myself now.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Maybe it's time to sacrifice the orange. Yeah, exactly. The orange cow to the sun God of impeachment. I don't know. Yeah. The Washington post was reporting that there are cracks in the Republican bloc in the Senate kind of appearing. There was a lunch on Tuesday. So before the
Starting point is 00:44:34 impeachment inquiry was opened where they seemed to like anonymous sources, but people who were there say that two factions were forming one that was kind of behind the president and being like, yeah, he should look into Biden because Biden did a crime. So that was Johnson, I think, from- Wisconsin. And then Burr, who is the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which has a reputation for being actually on this earth. And Richard Burr was the head of another sort of camp in the Republican Senate, which is kind of like, this is bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:18 It's on paper, objectively bad. Not a good thing. It's bad for our party. It's bad for him. It's bad for our country. But this is what's weird though too, right? And I think to what maybe you were going to say, Eric, of like, this is the line? Right.
Starting point is 00:45:33 For Republicans? Like, it wasn't all this other heinous shit? What's really odd to me, it's like, maybe it's like well, we can dance around all these other terrible things of how we're mistreating and abusing human beings. But since this actually falls into a thing that can actually be like constitutionally adjudicated or something, now they're like, oh, fuck, this is bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I don't understand. But it's interesting calculus. We'll never know because everyone is just self-serving, self-dealing. Yeah. It's interesting, too. I never really knew much about politics before anyway, really, but it is about winning, isn't it? Everything is about winning at any cost, even lying, spreading rumors.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You spread rumors about the opposition, and you're winning. And I find that interesting that politics isn't about taking care of the country no well especially not here it's just a game it's that's all it is it's just a game it's a game and it's the and i say this all the time it's the way to be the most popular person and you're part of your state right you know if you're a senator if you're a congressperson you know like in that thrill of you know shaking hands and kissing babies and shit i think it's addictive there are some people who are trying to do good, but they're definitely in the minority.
Starting point is 00:46:47 And then you have to play the game. That's the frustrating thing. You have to do good. You have to do good among a sea of torturous shit. Yeah. And so then you're like, well, what do I do? Do I just keep doing good, but no one's listening? Or do I kind of play the game a little bit?
Starting point is 00:47:01 Do I push against the tidal wave or do I surf the tidal wave? Yeah. Right. Well, one thing that's probably going to affect all of this is how the American people feel. And so I always look at 538 for their overall average approval rating because they take a bunch of different polls and weight them. different polls and weight them. And Jason Pargin from Cracked writes on Cracked as David Wong, was pointing out on Twitter today that Trump's approval rating is at an all-time high or at near the peak of where it's been in his presidency. It's at 43. It's not a good peak for a president like this is kind of around the low of the Obama presidency, but it's still like relative to his past approval
Starting point is 00:47:50 ratings. It's up, he's underwater less than 10 percentage points. So, you know, his approval is 43.1%. His disapproval is 52.9. It seems to, I mean, like when you look at the chart, like it's going directly up in the past half a week. So maybe, I wonder what that news is tied to. Because do they say when the poll was taken? Probably the end of last week? Yeah, it's the end of last week. So it seems to be around when this news was first starting to break,
Starting point is 00:48:24 which seems incredibly confusing that the presence of the scandal would cause people to support him more. Right. But I mean. I think we should probably look at see what next week's polls look like. Yeah. Because I don't know. So much has happened this week. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:42 It's possible it could go up, too, because now it's like the real culture war left verse right thing the gauntlet has been thrown down yeah in the form of actually now we're hurtling towards impeachment yeah that now people like all right go to your corners it is quite difficult i've you know i have spoken to a few trump people who are just unwilling to even just take a moment yeah just even just listen forget the news just listen to what he's saying right right and so it is amazing yeah to really watch the level of consciousness and self-awareness that actually doesn't exist in the entire world so this is not just america yeah you look at you look at loads of other things people are just asleep yeah yeah they're just sort of reacting every single day to things without a goal in mind.
Starting point is 00:49:27 They're just sort of reactionary little vessels without any sort of thinking. Oh, I don't know. I mean, it is amazing to watch. That's the thing as well. Yeah. And it's really alarming too, because with things like that are so critical to just our even, the survival of our species right is somehow looked through some lens of not just objectively taking like you know put facts aside if you said would it be bad if the
Starting point is 00:49:54 earth's weather got so bad people couldn't live anymore right should we do something about that if that was a problem and like oh here you go man you're trying to replace my cheeseburgers with kale and it's like no dude listen to what we're saying. Or even just half the policies, even on the left that are like everything the left advocates for benefits every American person. felt for the country like at any point right that maybe it's not tied to the impeachment but it does seem like i i don't know what else it could be and it just seems like it's just everybody retreating into their own corners yeah being like there is no objective truth the only objective truth is fuck you like i right you know that's it uh all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017
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Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, or wherever you get your podcasts. Because of one single game, every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:53:06 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going
Starting point is 00:53:27 to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here to let me waste. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious.
Starting point is 00:54:17 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because
Starting point is 00:54:31 the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and let's talk about samuel l jackson yeah i love him yeah one of the is he still the highest grossing actor of all time probably right at this point because now he's also in the fucking event who's fucking with with Sam Jackson? He's Avengers, fucking Jurassic Park, fucking Star Wars. Star Wars prequels, but still.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Almost all the Tarantinos. Yeah, shout out to all the Mace Windu fans out there. Yeah. So I guess there's maybe an, I don't know if there is an arms race yet to have celebrity voices attached to your smart device. Right. But Amazon, they just had an event where they announced that they're going to have many
Starting point is 00:55:28 celebrity voices that will be able to tell you jokes, let you know if it's raining, set timers, alarms, whatever, all that shit that it does. But now they want to marry all of that ability with celebrity voices. And the first one they unveiled was Samuel L. Jackson. And so this is like a mode you can upgrade for 99 cents, whatever. But the thing that I like is that there are two modes, explicit and non-explicit. So I'm hoping that if you mishear the Alexa, give you the weather and you're like, what? It's just like, say what again?
Starting point is 00:56:00 I'm like, oh shit. This is keeping me on my fucking toes. Right. But there's, I don't know. I'm like, oh, shit. This is keeping me on my fucking toes. But there's, I don't know. This feels, this whole event, as I read about it, like all the things that Amazon's unveiling, I feel like we're really hurtling towards this future where Amazon is going to be the source of everything that we need
Starting point is 00:56:20 or we will do everything through fucking Amazon. Because another thing they brought up. Was right now there are now 100 million devices. Equipped with like these echo speakers. But at this thing. They said that they've begun a collaboration. With Discovery. For a upcoming subscription streaming outlet.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Called Food Network Kitchen. And it's a $7 a month service. That will supplement live. And on demand video programming. With ingredient and equipment delivery. Network Kitchen, and it's a $7 a month service that will supplement live and on-demand video programming with ingredient and equipment delivery through Amazon and playlists optimized for Alexa. So it'll be like, okay, we have a playlist of videos that are essentially recipes. And if you check your front porch, the ingredients for this next recipe in your playlist will be there. Or you can say,
Starting point is 00:57:06 oh, I want to do coq au vin, but I don't have these things. And then, boop, all the shit you need is just there. Yeah. It's, ah, man. Almost like a magic trick, except the way they make that magic trick possible,
Starting point is 00:57:17 there's an article, I think it was ProPublic and the New York Times did a co-investigation into delivery of Alexa packages. And they don't use the tradition, like UPS has UPS trucks that travel around. FedEx has FedEx trucks. Amazon created this network. It's kind of like Uber for package delivery, except the people are under insane deadlines. And because the package
Starting point is 00:57:49 is not a person who's going to give you a bad rating if you drive badly and in a terrifying way, they're going to do that occasionally. And so there have been all these accidents where people have been killed, people have been injured by delivery cars, unmarked vans that are delivering Amazon products. And they don't know to sue Amazon because there's nothing on the card that hit them that says Amazon. And Amazon and their nation of lawyers have arranged it so that they're not responsible for, like they can't be sued essentially. Oh, because they're like, they're not employees.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Right, they're not employees. They're at will. Yeah, I mean, that's super smart, isn't it? I'll tell you one thing that's really smart as well with Facebook and Amazon and all of that is it's very hard to complain to them. Have you noticed how like, you know, you go into the contact area,
Starting point is 00:58:44 if you need to like make a sort of complaint and it's like, how can we help? And it's like, I'm trying to complain. Oh you noticed how you go into the contact area if you need to make a complaint? And it's like, how can we help? I'm trying to complain. There's just a constant labyrinth of places to go. FAQs you have to read, right? We have millions of articles in our database. It's actually very smart
Starting point is 00:58:59 as a business, I guess. The irony is Amazon is this gigantic company with all this money yet. They won't even, they can't even pay these people a living wage to prevent this kind of driving. Right. It's the root of all of this, right? Is that people are not taken care of. Right. And they say, well, now the only, I was not able to maybe go to college or get a degree. So now I'm relying on the gig economy to sort of supplement my income or be my income. And then on top of that, my options are limited to driving very unsafely under unrealistic deadlines for my own survival.
Starting point is 00:59:34 That's right. What is the world coming to? It used to be. I mean, it's pretty simple, though. I mean, it used to be like delivery driver used to be a union protected job right and now it is a freelance gig that you pick up and you know have to drive around like you know your your life depends on it uh and so like have to deliver packages so quickly that you can't take bathroom breaks and And sometimes you occasionally kill people.
Starting point is 01:00:06 This is the thing too, even talking about, right? Like the, even the frustration on the right for people who might not even be politically savvy. Like there's a group of voters who really do believe immigrants are why their financial situation is the way they are.
Starting point is 01:00:18 That's why they're anti-immigrant. It all ties back to people's needs are just not being met. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the root of all of this shit. Because if everyone's belly was full and they didn't have to stress out about maybe their parent having cancer and that they don't know how to afford their medical care and things like that, if those stressors are taken away, it's much harder to be susceptible to xenophobic
Starting point is 01:00:39 propaganda and things like that. And that's where I'm'm like my hope is that if we can actually take care of people right that some of these things can at least begin to dissipate maybe not for this generation but going forward in general that if the government treats you with humanity if society treats you humanely then maybe you can treat each other humanely right but it's really it is again very complex as one person to consider the health and mental health of 300 million people in one country, right? You know, a lot of people blame old people for things, right?
Starting point is 01:01:15 But I'm not old. I can't even imagine what it's like to be 64. At 32, I went to a psychiatric hospital. What will I be when I'm 64? Honestly, I am terrified in a way of what I could become because life just sort of takes you sometimes, right? In a place that you could not even have imagined. And for me as a 64 year old, even now, like my sister's 20
Starting point is 01:01:37 and she sometimes tells me how life is. And I try to sort of stay calm because I remember what I was like when i was 20 sure and stuff like that but uh sometimes you know like young people can get you know antsy and like full of passion and energy and they get in people's faces and it's like bitch you have no idea what life could take a 20 my god so you have to think of all the complexities of uh social economic backgrounds and geographical location, everything. And on top of your own life.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Right. Right. So it's so difficult to sort of think about other people when you struggle. And I find that xenophobia, bigotry, all of that is actually a sort of tool to alleviate your stresses. If you really struggle, it's so much easier just to go, well, it's that person's fault. That's why I hate them. I feel kind of better.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah, I'm on the right side because they're the problem and I don't like them. Yeah, and it's sad. It's sad because it's like, oh. And a lot of it's just born out of lack. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I don't know why I just Googled this,
Starting point is 01:02:41 but at the start of the Civil War, the northern states had a combined population of 22 million and the southern states had 9 million. So it was less balanced than our country currently is. You just thought you're like, what are those rosters? What's that roster look like? They got 22 million? Damn it. Shit.
Starting point is 01:03:00 What does the roster look like? Yeah. They got 22 million? Damn it. Shit. Let's talk about one of the wildest stories that has come across the Zeitgeist news desk in a while. It's the story of an adoption. This couple in Indiana has adopted a number of children.
Starting point is 01:03:22 One of the children they adopted made national news for being a genius. Yeah, like the child they adopted had autism. And then just, I think the doctors are like, I don't think you can really even expect to be able to communicate with your son. Like it could be really bad. And then the mother, I think father started tutoring the kid and is now like a math genius. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:03:39 And that was like sort of like the gist of this. They got famous because of that. Right. So, well, if you love and care for someone, that turns out you get the gist of this. They got famous because of that. Right. Well, if you love and care for someone, that turns out you get the best out of them. Right. Rather than just disregarding them. So that family adopted a troubled nine-year-old girl from Florida who had had to – she basically had to be emergency adopted.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Is that right? It was through an emergency adoption right so the the family that she had been with was emergency like it was bad enough the previous situation was bad enough that uh they had to get her out of there but they didn't know what the reason was for the they when they were adopted they, oh, this kid just needs a home. Right. We'll do it because we're very kind people. Let's open up our home. Right. And then, oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:04:29 So the nine-year-old they adopted was from Ukraine. Mm-hmm. And she had dwarfism. And they just felt like things were kind of strange from the start. Yeah. Like things were kind of strange from the start. Yeah. Well, within the first year of the adoption, things. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:04:51 So they say this little girl threatened to stab them in their sleep. Yeah. Would like be watching over them as they were sleeping with a knife in their hand. She pushed the mother towards an electrified fence and was caught. They caught her pouring bleach in their hand uh she pushed the mother towards an electrified fence and was caught what they caught her pouring bleach in their coffee is this not this is this is a horror movie yes or it's called the orphan yeah yeah yeah and this is what happened and then so then they're like hold on what's going on with this kid right so then their things got a little bit more interesting. They noticed the father was giving her a bath. She had full pubic hair.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Right. And was menstruating. Yeah. And they're like, are we sure this little girl's eight years old, nine years old? Right. And then would like,
Starting point is 01:05:36 even there was like all this trouble. They went to a family counselor. This nine-year-old girl was like, said that she described some of the connection exercises the family therapist suggested, described them as childish. And they're like, yo, she has a robust vocabulary. She just shaded this therapist. Like these are very childish exercises. The mom said at the time I ran a little school and I remember this nine-year-old girl said to her, these children are exhausting.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I don't know how you do it. Which is kind of a cute thing for a three-year-old kid to say or something. But to parrot back as something that she's heard an adult say. And then there was another example where the child was asking for her parents to carry her into the ocean. They were at the beach. And the siblings were playing by themselves. And she's like, oh was asking for her parents to like carry her into the ocean. They were at the beach and like the siblings were playing by themselves.
Starting point is 01:06:28 She's like, oh, will you carry me? And they're like, we're tired. Can you give us a second? And we'll take you. She's like, because she was acting like she couldn't walk or whatever is too much for her. She was just like, fuck it. And then just ran herself into the scene. Like, what the fuck was that?
Starting point is 01:06:40 Right. Like there are a lot of these moments. Wait, she was pretending she couldn't walk at that time? Yeah. Oh. right like there are a lot of these moments so then she was pretending she couldn't walk at that time yeah oh and then just ran off into the sea because she wasn't willing to wait to be carried so there's all these things and then she had to be admitted uh to like a psychiatric hospital um where they were thinking like they're like a lot of the behavior is sociopathic then they're like this sort of story evolved into the mother and father claiming that they're like this child is not eight years old this child we suspect is 22 right there's a 22 year old adult
Starting point is 01:07:11 who looks very young who's just pretending to be a child and that's when these parents got in trouble is because they essentially got the state of indiana to like change her age to consider her an adult and then they took off to can Canada with their other son who was like the math genius. So he could study abroad. So then now the state was treating them leaving to Canada as like in a child abandonment, but they're like,
Starting point is 01:07:35 we paid for her rent or whatever. We tried to keep her there. Uh, but she's not a child. So we couldn't have abandoned her. Right. Like he gets into a very strange legal situation like the movie orphan just ends with them basically i think killing her like as she's
Starting point is 01:07:53 trying to kill them because like somebody's like oh my gosh she's actually 50 years old or something like that but like because they don't have this person's papers they have no way of saying like how old they are right because they did like two different bone density scans or something where they took them took her to a doctor the first one said they're like no yeah she's eight right like she's eight and then i was like no she might be 10 right which is only a year older than they had suspected and then so but the mystery is like they don't understand the doctor who sort of verified that she was in fact 22 i think passed away and they're like they're not quite sure why the courts allowed that her to change the age so it's a bit of a
Starting point is 01:08:32 mystery even on the parent side because you also have the father saying like oh the my ex-wife is lying about this stuff but then his lawyers say the cops weren't actually like they were actually completely misinterpreting what his intentions were when he was saying something like that. And one insider basically like who knew who was working on the case was saying this is going to be a fucking movie. Right. Essentially. But I think they've done the horror version. They should definitely do the comedy version.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Right. Because I imagine being her and just going, oh, shit, I'm going to play with these dolls for the next few hours just to keep cover and pay rent. And she's like, really? I was never going to hurt them. I was just trying to get them to emergency punt me so I could find a new family because I was getting bored with these people.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Right. The whole thing is very, very odd. And I'll be honest, financially, I could do better, currently speaking. So if there is anyone out there that would like to adopt me, I am 32. Up front, just up front. I'm up front, 32. Francophone.
Starting point is 01:09:33 My bone density is, I'd say, average. Great, for your age. But is bone density usually a reliable indicator? I have no idea. Damn, girl, you got some nice bone density, baby. Anna Hosnia, come on in. Hi, I have no idea. Damn, girl, you got some nice bone density, baby. Anna Hosnia, come on in. Hi, I have some thoughts. Okay, apparently when they put her in the psychiatry
Starting point is 01:09:51 ward after she tried to push the mom into an electric fence, apparently all the doctors that she interacted with confirmed that she's definitely older. Because she was saying she was older too. And then she admitted to being older and said that she liked to kill people because it was fun it was just something to do so it was like some a lot of like sociopathic behavior and they start to realize oh she just needs a lot she is
Starting point is 01:10:12 not okay and she needs help and apparently she's just i mean it's a a lot of issues going on at once to create um this woman slash girl who knows it's like But like, I think she's an adult because apparently also she wouldn't, she didn't like playing with toys. She would actively be like, I don't want to play with these. Like, stop trying to give me dolls. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:34 There's a lot of weird stuff. And I think it's very important to know. She's like, do you have any rosé? It's very important to know they don't know where her whereabouts are. She's disappeared. Oh, that's even better. Which means that she's probably conning another family.
Starting point is 01:10:48 You cut to the mom listening to the Daily Zeitgeist and then pulling her headphones off and the little girl's right behind her. Hi, mommy. What are you listening to? But that, I think, is more terrifying than anything else and I think speaks to her clear work as a con woman. Because how could she just disappear?
Starting point is 01:11:05 How does no one know where a child is? She just was like, all right, I guess I'll just move in here. Well, I mean, it could also be. Don't look behind you. No, no, no. Could also be a tragic story of a child whose parents are like, nah, she doesn't play with her toys. She's an adult.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, I know. parents are like nah she doesn't play with her toys she's an adult yeah that's what i'm saying it's well i know i the things that put me in the adult camp is that she had had pubic hair and was menstruating develop earlier right no you don't have a full set of pubic hair but then they said she was trying to hide yeah she was trying to hide her menstrual yeah like any underwear that she had bled into and things like that so So she obviously, I don't know, but again, that could have been a shame thing. Carrie does that. Carrie tries to hide her. Yeah, but Carrie's a teenager. Who are you, Carrie's mom?
Starting point is 01:11:51 Yeah. It's very confusing. But again, that's why there's enough to see that there's a darkness where she originated from that she's carrying through to like her new life.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Carrying. Thank you. Also, we need to know what happened to the original people who adopted her that decided that they couldn't keep her anymore. Right.rying. Thank you. Also, we need to know what happened to the original people who adopted her that decided that they couldn't keep her anymore. Right, the emergency. Something is going on.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Something is going on that we are not, there's details. Also, the woman, I don't know, I watched that interview she did. That woman is, she's been tortured. What do you mean? The woman, the mom. Oh, she was so shaky?
Starting point is 01:12:23 She was so, like something had like something traumatized she had gone through it like well their marriage broke up after the after the true but there was things that you there was there was horror in her eyes like she did not look okay took its toll yeah it feels like that is a con woman who has understood that i have these disabilities and it's hard for me to live on my own and it's easier for me to act as a child and I can get away with it and then also has potentially and as a doctor which I am I don't know maybe maybe it's so deep in it that has kind of lost touch with reality in many ways and leads her to try and, I don't know, kill people? I don't know. I would believe that she's less aware of herself consciously doing this
Starting point is 01:13:09 and might just be sociopathic. Yeah, I agree. And not might be like, okay, here's my plan. Versus like she's got lizard brain on and she's just doing whatever the fuck she's got to do. If she's gone from one sort of foster family to another, then people are just replaceable, right? Right. People are just momentary
Starting point is 01:13:26 moments of time. To manipulate them is just like, yeah, you're just another doll to me. If anything, she doesn't play with dolls because you are the doll. Yeah, she's playing with human dolls. What if that's the explanation she gave when they were like, why aren't you playing with your dolls? Oh, because you're the doll.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. ding, ding, ding, ding. I think this is an appropriate story to end this episode on because this is what America is burying our head in is true crime shit. Or like everybody's obsessed with true crime. The country dissolves around us.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Set off by a Daily Mail article. I do love true crime commercials, you know, because it'll be like, and he murdered his wife. Anyway, we'll take a break now. Do you have a bra that you like to wear? Check out Maidenform. Maidenform's a great company who we respect.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Pro Hanes here. I love all the Hanes brands. Eric, it's been a pleasure having you. Thanks for having me. I just want to say that my show is on tonight at the Broadwater Theatre. So anyone that's in the Los Angeles area, I'd love it if you came. And if not, I've got another one
Starting point is 01:14:32 in October. And you can find out the dates and stuff on my Instagram. Thanks, guys. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. Come back to me. Okay. Miles, where can people find you? And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. Come back to me. Okay. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:14:48 And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Are there tweets I like? Yeah, I think so. Want to hear a couple? Like to hear? Here you go. The first one is from Yedoya Travis, at Professor Doye. It says, black compliments ranked.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Number five, you did your thing. Four, you stupid. Three, okay. Two, I'm just trying to get like you. One, damn, this shit sound like it's from the Goof Troop soundtrack. I don't know why that fucked me up so much. I love that. And then the last one is from Louis Peitzman,
Starting point is 01:15:27 Louis Peitzman, at Louis Peitzman, that says, I keep singing impeachment like, the Simpsons. Tweet that I'm enjoying is Katie Stahl tweeting, it's here, you guys, the show we have been threatening you with for months. It's here. That's about worst year ever.
Starting point is 01:15:49 It's a new podcast from our network, from Robert Evans, Mr. Cody Johnson and Katie Stoll. It is very good. It's going to be a weekly podcast about 2020, the lead up to the election, the political wildness that we talked about today. But you always learn something new every time they record an episode. I learned, for instance, in the first episode that Jake Tapper got his start with a column in which he bragged about having dated Monica Lewinsky during the Lewinsky scandal and was like, and she didn't put out, but, uh, what? Yeah. Yeah. You got it. CNN people fucking. Yeah. You got to check it out. And there's an, an even wilder revelation in, I think episode two or three about Joe Biden, uh, that I think might end up derailing his campaign.
Starting point is 01:16:46 So listen to this podcast that everyone will be talking about around the water cooler. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a
Starting point is 01:17:02 Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we write out on miles. Before we get to that, I want to shout the Zeitgang out. I want to put their attention. If you're in Chicago, October 16th, that's a Wednesday,
Starting point is 01:17:23 7 p.m. chicago podcast festival will present ethnically ambiguous the podcast live if you want to hold it if you're zeitgang you better be at this motherfucking show okay pull up tickets are affordable i'd imagine as they are because it's my podcast baby it's not gold, you know? So October 16th, check that out. It is gold. Comedy gold. Yeah, hold it. I have to say, the Zeitgang are wonderful.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Yes, that's why I want to bring, in case you are unaware, in case you are ignorant to the reality, October 16th, Chicago, Illinois, Anna and Shireen are coming for you. Okay? So prepare thyself and get your tickets. Please, please. Chicago Podcast Festival 2019. thyself and get your tickets. Please. Chicago Podcast Festival 2018.
Starting point is 01:18:06 We have her tied up right now. Please help. That show better sell out. So the song, yes. Let's do a song. Bye. Now, last week, if you looked on my Instagram stories, I talked about Diwali Rhythm,
Starting point is 01:18:19 which is a dance hall rhythm that's used in many songs, sampled in many songs. I wanted to bring people's attention a little bit more to another drum sample that's very, very pervasive. It's all over the place. It's the track It's a New Day by the Skull Snaps. It's from 1973. The drums, if you are a hip-hop head, you will recognize off the riff, okay?
Starting point is 01:18:40 Maybe if you're a Linkin Park fan, you might remember it from the track on Hybrid Theory, Cure for the Itch, that Mr. Han does. Wah-oh, wah-oh, wah-oh, wah-oh. You remember that track. Anyway, and it's also in Butterfly by Crazy Town. This fucking sample is everywhere. It's also just a great track. Oh, so all the classic hip-hop songs.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Yep, or HIPPA TO THE HOPPA, Old Dirty Bastard. HIPPA TO THE HOPPA. Okay, or Mike Cheka by Dots FX. It's fucking everything. So check out this song, and, you know, let's just embrace the history of it. All right. We are going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast and we will talk to you then.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Bye. Bye. Bye. We'll be right back. Just step to the back of love It's not right to get up tight To fold your hands and cry Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption
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Starting point is 01:20:58 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
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