The Daily Zeitgeist - Justice League Conspiracy, And The Bible Says Putin Is The Next Oprah 11.17.17

Episode Date: November 18, 2017

In episode 31, Jamie Loftus joins Jack & Miles to discuss the new Justice League movie, Trump's tweets about Al Franken, an update on Roy Moore, Meek Mill, & the Toy Freaks YouTube Channel, pl...us producer Anna Hossnieh is back for 'bloid watch! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:56 this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 6, Episode 5 of Das Daily Zeitgeist. For November 16th, 2017, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. New Jack City, because I introduced Cracked to the Internet, and I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hello. Yes, it's experimental artist
Starting point is 00:02:26 your boy kusama son of spooky yuki and odd todd coming at you cleopatra and we are thrilled to be joined by our first fourth time guest uh we've actually not had a other third time guest she's just that good uh or she's just that around no no well yeah we felt bad when we caught you digging through the trash really yeah do you want to come up and record outside panting like a dog all the time get you a hot cup of coffee or something she is the hilarious stand-up comedian and animator jamie lofton hello hey and my former co-worker. A.K.A. J-Lo, A.K.A. J-Loft. You could go both ways. I could go J-Lo.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I prefer J-Lo, though. It makes me feel more dignified. Or J-Loft. J-Loft. J-Loft. J-Loft. Jamie, what's something that you have searched in the not-too-distant past that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Oh, about where I'm at right now.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Okay, so here's three recent ones. This morning, I did Google Uncle Buck feminism. Hell yeah. Wow. Because I'm talking about Uncle Buck later today on a podcast, and I was just curious if Uncle Buck is a feminist icon. Turns out, he is! Is he really? No, no.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Turns out, he is. Is he really? No, no. I'd just like to say, Uncle Buck feminist icon, queer icon, Uncle Buck. Just throwing it out there, seeing what sticks. I also looked up the Nutcracker discount tickets, because it's that time of year. I love the Nutcracker. Yeah, is the Nutcracker discount a different musical?
Starting point is 00:04:06 No, I was in a production of the Slutcrer once in boston massachusetts i was in the background i just wait what was the slut cracker it was please tell me it was written and directed by a woman and not a man it was co-directed by a man and a woman okay uh but it was like a burlesque show of the nutcracker and i was i wasn't doing any of the fun stuff i was just like there anyways were you just like a sugar plum fairy like a background like i didn't do burlesque i just wanted to participate so wait so what if in the show if there are burlesque dancers what are you doing in the background in the background you're just like like i i would do i like danced but i didn't do like burlesque oh gotcha it was just a background just sit back there and look scandalized by their, like, moves.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Oh, my goodness. Turns out the Nutcracker is more like the Slutcracker. It's really compelling. Christmas, no less. I know. What's something you believe to be overrated? Spending time with your family on Thanksgiving. I'm not doing it this year.
Starting point is 00:05:01 In your face, Loftusai. Skipping it. Skipping the Loftai Thanksgiving this year. Why are you skipping? I'm skipping, well, first of all, because it's far away logistically. My parents live in Massachusetts, but also it's just like- The Great Commonwealth? This year, I just, I'm sometimes, for self-care purposes, I just don't want to participate
Starting point is 00:05:18 in whatever horrifying, toxic conversations are going to take place at Thanksgiving this year. Oh, is that the kind of vibe? I'm just subbing out. Not my immediate family, but I have a couple aunts and uncles that I just don't want to have the conversation. I'm going to opt out. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. Is it because of Mengasi? Yeah, it's because of that. And I also just don't, I don't like want to, Marcella Arguello had a great tweet about this of like, does any female comedian who has... They had to be like, oh, did you know Louis C.K. is kind of a bad guy? It's like, I just don't want to have that conversation. I don't want to have to be like...
Starting point is 00:05:55 So what are you going to do for Thanksgiving? Going to get some Del Taco? Dude, I'm going to watch Titanic with my friend and eat Taco Bell. All right. Well, you should come by my family's place if you want turkey. Yeah. Well, as long as they don't ask me about Lucy K. No, they won't.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It's some old black people, my grandma with dementia, and my stepmom's family. Oh, dude, see you there. Yeah. And they don't speak much English, so it'll be like, I'll just talk to you.
Starting point is 00:06:18 We can just sit at the kid's table. We can just eat? They don't get us. Dude, I still sit at the kid's table when I go home. Hell yeah. I've been talking for the past two weeks about how I'm not going anywhere for Thanksgiving. Miles never invited me anywhere. Well, you never invite me anywhere.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You know what's funny? Because my girlfriend, who also knows Jack, she constantly goes, when is Jack going to invite us over for dinner? Now that you guys are working together. No, she doesn't. Yo, I swear to God she does. So, hey, you're hearing it here first. It's happening.
Starting point is 00:06:46 It's going down. And it's going to be like a real passive aggressive, like, we're going to overdo it. Yeah, just really silent eating. Some hors d'oeuvres, Rosie. Happy. What's something you think is underrated? Oh, underrated. I got two things.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I got The Hunchback of Notre Dame, 1996. One of my favorite movies in the entire goddamn world. I watched it last night. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone says it's like too dark for kids because there was that whole song that the priest sings. He's like, if I can't fuck this lady, I'll burn the city down, which is a banger of a song, by the way. Which is a banger of a song, by the way.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And so people are like, oh, kids shouldn't watch the movie about the priest threatening to have sex with a woman or he'll kill everybody. But it's really good. Tony Jay as Judge Claude Frollo. If I can't fuck this lady, I'll burn the city down. It's basically the subtext of every Eminem song. What about Esmeralda? Who did her voice? Esmeralda? Oh, her voice? Esmeralda?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Oh, uh, Demi Moore. I'm pretty sure. I just remember I was like, Oh, look at the thing that I've always found strange about that movie is just that, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:54 the hunchback is like in love with Esmeralda and he like saves her or like, you know, does some great thing. And it's like all the plot points of the movie where the hunchback gets esmeralda as his girlfriend then kevin klein gets her right but then at the end they're just like but no man you're too ugly obviously like we can't see okay it's realistic i i i thought about that too i used to be very anti that ending but i think he sort of has like a end of sex in the city the series kind of ending quasimodo does because at the end he just like his reward is he finds community and
Starting point is 00:08:31 he's like happy and comfortable with himself right but i feel like yeah i feel like the reason it happens is because the entire disney universe is a looksocracy like yes it's just beauty is the main currency. Like, from the jump in Snow White, the, like, queen can only remain queen if she's the fairest in the land. And so, like, this is, like, the ultimate test. It's a movie about
Starting point is 00:08:58 an ugly person who falls in love or, you know, has feelings toward a non-ugly person, and they're just like, no, that's just not how our universe works, dog. Is Esmeralda... I didn't watch it. He gets a cute girlfriend in the sequel. Oh, does he?
Starting point is 00:09:12 In the straight-to-VHS sequel. Nice. Wait, he doesn't end with Esmeralda? No, he doesn't. He ends up being accepted by the city of Paris. Oh, wow. And he has friends. Because is Esmeralda like a gypsy?
Starting point is 00:09:22 I don't know. Or what's her... Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there are two groups like marginalized people they're both yeah they're both othered uh they're i don't know i love that movie there's a great uh video essay that came out about it recently uh from lindsey ellis whose work i really like where and she that's like the first public defense i've seen of this movie that
Starting point is 00:09:40 i think it's really good okay cool I will check that out. Yeah. All right. And let's get into the show. We are trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world, whether you're looking or not. We talk politics, the president and news, but we also talk about pop culture and movies and supermarket tabloids, both of those things today. I was just thinking about, I actually have quasi-magical thinking when it comes to the Zeitgeist. Like I think the album Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco, for some reason I woke up with that in my head today.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And I was thinking about how that album was recorded before 9-11, but it's like all about 9-11. It has like all this like 9-11 symbolism and shit. So I think sometimes the Zeitgeist is like aware of stuff-11 it has like all this like 9-11 symbolism and shit so i i think sometimes the zeitgeist is like aware of stuff even before it happens it's like feeling the feeling and uh there we go exactly all right enough uh jamie what is something that's out there in the zeitgeist uh that that you think is incorrect based on your personal experience as a human being? Yeah, I think that people have been saying for a long time hamsters are a pet for children, but I think that they're a pet for single adults.
Starting point is 00:10:56 All right. Wait, that they're inappropriate for children? Like a children can't handle having a hamster? No, that's like... Walk me through this. I think it's like sort of an entry-level pet for kids. I know so many people who, when I say, let's just say, in theory, I have a hamster that I'm literally obsessed with. And every time I tell people that, they're like, oh, yeah, I had a hamster in the fourth grade, but then I accidentally lost it and it burned up in the sun.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Or terrible things happen to hamsters i feel like he has children every hamster story i know and like it's just about a child doing something terrible to a hamster like losing it or the hamster doing usually it's the hamster doing something terrible to himself hamsters are bad at self-preservation adult women yeah yeah there you go i'm a hamster lady not a cat lady I'm dignified. My hamster was literally booked at the Hollywood Improv last weekend. That's good hamster care. Legitimately booked? Legitimately booked on the main stage.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Under which name? She got bumped. I don't know. Theo Vaughn does a hamster joke, and they were like, oh, Jamie, you got a hamster. Bring your hamster, and then we'll show Theo Vaughn the hamster. It'll be very exciting. And I was like, oh, cool. My hamster's booked on the main stage before I get fucking booked on the main stage.
Starting point is 00:12:09 So I brought my hamster. You'll get your time. You'll get your time. Dude, my hamster will, too. Yeah, exactly. Let's get into the news. The Justice League's out today, you guys. This is a big event movie, big tentpole.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Came out, it is November the 17th and everybody's been marking that day on their calendar. Not me. Justice League Day. I'm all about Marvel. This is the tentpole movie that most snuck up on people, I think. People were like, wait, it's out now?
Starting point is 00:12:39 I feel like Wonder Woman just came out in June. And also, it's a weird time to drop a movie that is clearly going to be critically reviled because all their movies are except for Wonder Woman, and they didn't bring the Wonder Woman director to do this. And they're dropping it at the beginning of Oscar season. Right. It's not a good time.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah. It seems like they should have been showing us previews for this, and then it's coming out in June or something. It was crazy, because this was a slow-boil, obsessive PR campaign. I feel like the last two Comic-Cons, they would show the things, and people were like, ah, losing their shit. Right. And yeah, now we're here, and I feel like that momentum has definitely subsided a bit.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Right. I also, it's just weird that Aquaman is like just being his superpower is now like just getting thrown around by stuff like because he's not like there's no water like in the main battle like so i mean this is all just based on the preview but it just seems like his whole thing is they're just like all right let's throw aquaman at someone or something. Anyways, so the Rotten Tomatoes, Rotten Tomatoes continues to be a magnet for controversy for being just a site that collects reviews and has no editorial voice other than collecting reviews.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And in my conspiracy theory, also, like, sort of changing whether something is fresh or rotten, depending on... What's the number where it becomes fresh at what point? 60, I believe. Really? All right. Well, that's misgenerous. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I mean, I just ask the other people around town. I'm like, what do you think? I mean, most movies I'm not too excited to see anyway. Yeah. You're a man of the people. That or just, like, I just get a lot of anxiety in a movie theater. Yeah. I don't know how I want
Starting point is 00:14:27 to frame it quite yet, but. I fucking, that's my favorite place to be in the world. Movie theater? Movie theater. Love movies.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Well, I'm back into movie theaters now because like at Universal, like every seat is a recliner. I'm here for that kind of movie. I could probably endure any terrible film, like if I'm in like a nearly like horizontal state. I'm too fidgety. I'm a talker. I'm here for that kind of movie. I could probably endure any terrible film if I'm in a nearly horizontal state.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm too fidgety. I'm a talker. I'm bad. In the movie? Yeah, I'm a big talker. And every time I try to find someone, I'm actively seeking a movie talker in the Los Angeles area to see movies with me because people hate it. What do you talk about?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Are you like, wait, what's happening right there? Or are you just like, yeah, so what's happening right there or are you just like yeah oh so he the iron man well because every movie is a superhero movie and they're all interconnected so i have there's a lot of leaning there's a lot of questions i'm like what's this guy and what his name is chris what because they're all named ch. Yeah, that's true. And it's very confusing. So anyways, Rotten Tomatoes did not reveal that the Justice League movie had a rotten score until... Of what, like 39%? 40% at the moment. It went up 1%.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Right. So they delayed the reveal. They said it was because they are launching their own sort of Siskel and Ebert show where during the show it is revealed what the count on the movie is, which seems like it's just going to drive a lot of traffic to Metacritic. Like it's an interesting idea to like sort of make it an event where you like find out if something's rotten or fresh. But Metacritic is already a superior aggregator of reviews.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Alligator. Alligator. It's a superior alligator of reviews. And so I don't know. But the conspiracy theory is that they're both owned by the same giant mega company. I think it's Time Warner. Yeah. So like Time Warner owns Warner Brothers and they also own Time Inc., which owns Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And so the idea is that because they noticed that Justice League was not getting good reviews, they were like, all right, we'll create this show just to, like, hold the score back from the public. But I think it'll do fine, I'm sure. Because it's like one of those movies i think just for the spectacle people are just going to be like whoa all of them in one movie yeah and logistically people are going to need stuff to do with their families this coming week they're like oh how can i like not talk to these people for like i mean this movie's got to be 45 hours long also oh my god yeah that man vs. Superman was so fucking long. I tried watching it three times, and I fell asleep. I'm not even joking.
Starting point is 00:17:08 20 minutes in each time. I don't know how that happened. And it's not, look, I know I'm like Team Marvel, but I honestly wanted to try and watch it all the way through because I like the idea of Batman vs. Superman. Just couldn't do it. Even Wonder Woman, which is like a great movie that I really liked, is too long. They're all too long. One man on the street piece of reporting that we can do for you folks, uh,
Starting point is 00:17:30 being out in Los Angeles, uh, two of the three people on Mike here, I don't know. I actually haven't asked miles. I have run into the actor who plays, uh, Aquaman also plays a cow Drago.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Oh, Jason Momoa. Yeah. Yeah. I met him like before he did game of thrones and he was just like my friend's neighbor really around that dude is just like yeah i saw him tuesday i think he used to live near ucb like franklin it feels like you're in a room with a character from a movie when you're around that dude he's like giant and looks exactly like he does in the movies he is uh oppressively hot yeah just yo his eyelashes i mean i don't know if it's latisse
Starting point is 00:18:10 or genetics but i think it's genetics yeah i think that i think he's just accidentally like that wow everyone's like why is everybody so weird around me um so yeah that so there's that um but it seems like the movie's not that great. Uh, we'll see. Should one of us go see it? Yeah. I mean, we're going to have to, uh, other movies that are out this weekend. Roman J, Israel, Esquire, the Denzel.
Starting point is 00:18:37 My mom can't stop talking about that movie. She loves it. She saw it. Yeah. It's, it's hovering at 55, which makes it rotten, but. Well, who knows? I think she's also a Denzel fan. So. Yeah. Who's hovering at 55, which makes it rotten. Well, who knows? I think she's also a Denzel fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Who's not a Denzel fan? You have to see. Especially in the mom community. Yeah, but she'll ride with Denzel, I think, to the end of the earth. It doesn't matter what the movie is. It's like, oh, it's great. Yeah, it's great. Man on Fire?
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yep. Beautiful. Man on Fire is great. That real stinky one, the taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3. My mom has that on DVD. Whoa. On heavy rotation. That is a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And the new Pixar movie is, unsurprisingly, at 97% that early reviews are in. And it's apparently... Which one is that one? Very good. Coco. It is about Day of the Dead type. Oh, yeah, good. Coco. It is about Day of the Dead type. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It has a Day of the Dead aesthetic on the poster.
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Starting point is 00:23:51 And we're back. All right, let's get into what we're going to be calling Mengazi. Shout out to Daniel Luckenbach on Twitter for that one. Yeah, that's a good one. Although coined by a man, I will take it. Right. This is the segment previously known as Sex Crim Watch, coined by J-Law. Sex Crims.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I think we can still keep that, though, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We call it Sex Crims, Benghazi. It's the same. Yeah. Interchangeable. So what's going on with the Sex Crims of the world? We've got the Al Franco, Al Franken. That's my nickname for him. Al Fresco. Alchangeable. What's going on with the sex crims of the world? Well, yeah. We got the Al Franco, Al Franken.
Starting point is 00:24:27 That's my nickname for him. Al Fresco. Al Fresky. What's going on with him? Well, yeah, you know, he obviously, I think we talked about this yesterday. No, we did definitely talk about this yesterday, how he, you know, had to apologize for basically forcing himself onto Leanne Twe tweden during a uso tour uh but it's just kind of weird because because of that like on the gop side of things everyone has been like oh my
Starting point is 00:24:51 god he should resign blah blah blah uh donald trump has come out aggressively his tweets are amazing which are uh the al frankenstein picture is really bad speaks a thousand words where do his hands go in pictures two three four three, four, five, and six. While she sleeps. Ellipsis. I don't even know how many. That's not even ellipsis because it only needs to be three periods. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Next tweet. And to think that just last week he was lecturing anyone who would listen about sexual harassment and respect for women. Leslie Stahl tape. So, look, Donald Trump. Do you even know who you are yourself or what remember the time there was over a dozen women i think 16 by him who are yeah who have come out to uh with with their own allegations of uh sexual misconduct and also you know you're on wax talking about how you'd like to grab the poom poom so oh yeah yeah yeah when he said he uh grabbed women by the put yeah
Starting point is 00:25:45 yeah yeah that was super chill uh great point by by the president yeah so hey al frankenstein get your shit together but it's i mean it's wild because it's a very slippery slope like mitch mcconnell off top was like yo al franken we need to do an ethics investigation i remember when roy moore's uh you know grand old pedophile shit was coming out he was like he took a beat before he had to figure out what he was actually going to say um because politically he had to figure out what was most advantageous right it took him like six days before it was like i believe the women yeah and now and but see this is where it gets weird right because if we're going to hold everyone's feet to the fire we also need to begin to talk about all of these allegations against the president, like in a much more serious manner, too.
Starting point is 00:26:27 You know, like if everyone's going to be held to this standard, like where, you know, the GOP has to have some kind of credibility here. What happened to that? Because it was like a big wave of me-tos coming at the president during the election, and then he won, and everyone was like, well, I guess every story before the election was wrong and just kind of went away or what? I think I think the phenomenon is like when he's elected, despite all that, that's basically the country saying that's acceptable. So if it was that big of an issue, the GOP should have got rid of him as a as a nominee.
Starting point is 00:27:00 If that really was a big problem at the time. Right. But I mean, I don't think that disrespect towards women is a deal breaker for the gop in any way shape or form they've never demonstrated otherwise i do think that that's like an interesting uh like precedent because now that there's like there was just this huge wave of uh sexual misconduct allegations that are still coming out in entertainment and politicians have no problem calling people out in entertainment entertainment uh people have no trouble like calling out politicians for but but when it comes to like people who are in their immediate circles it's like there's always an asterisk for at least one of these terrible fucking people where they're like well it wouldn't look very good if i said something like you know well that's how it is
Starting point is 00:27:44 like even like we were saying like with late night hosts and Louis C.K. Like, you know, people made a couple one liner jokes. But typically, like when you've we've seen how much more politically active like a lot of these hosts are with like giving like really impassioned monologues about health care or like, you know, just just general respect for human beings that we haven't sort of seen that around their own. Right. And that's true, because a lot of these guys have worked with Louis and things like that. So for them, it's not like an other. It's like it's in their camp. Right. Right. They're treating him the way that like Fallon treated the president during the election. Like it's like very like toothless, like jokes that and like very few jokes. Yeah. And like Trevor Noah did a little bit on it. But again, I like it's like very like toothless like jokes that and like very few jokes yeah and like trevor noah did a little bit on it but again i think it's been they're very
Starting point is 00:28:30 little yeah but he did the most but i think that makes sense as like a comedian of color who is not from the u.s it's much easier for him from his perspective to do that but for the straight white male hosts it's been a little not as toothy right right it's also crazy to think that none of these people had heard of it because we had all heard of it like yeah i heard about possibly be true right yeah five years ago if we heard about it then they 100 like yeah the thing like yeah it's like no one truly wants to put themselves at risk like It is good when a late-night house will go off on a politician who is being abusive towards really any group,
Starting point is 00:29:11 but usually that's because they're not putting themselves at risk by doing that. It's good to spread that information, but no one's really putting themselves on the line here to call out someone, probably because they're scared or they don't want to like, you know, cause personal friction.
Starting point is 00:29:28 But it's like, yeah, it's it's kind of cowardly. This totally applies to Roy Moore in the GOP, because like when Trump is out here going rah rah Al Frankenstein, can't even spell Frankenstein, right? Right. Really? Yeah. It's it's interesting. Interesting spelling.
Starting point is 00:29:42 He's an idiot. Yeah. Like with the same thing, Kellyanne Conaway, she was on Fox this morning and they were pressing her. They're like, wow, so, you know, Trump has been real vocal about talking about Al Franken and tweeting about him. But, you know, how come she's not saying anything about Roy Moore? I think we have a clip of like her response. But we haven't heard a lot from the president. He's tweeting on Al Franken.
Starting point is 00:30:02 He was asked about Roy Moore yesterday and he did not respond. Well, Al Franken was a brand new news story yesterday and the president weighed in as he does on the news of the day often enough. The Roy Moore story is eight days old and the president put out a statement during his Asia trip on that. And since then, our press secretary has spoken on behalf of the president by saying that he believes the people of Alabama will sort out what to do with Roy Moore and with that election. Yeah, it's old news. That's why he doesn't have to make an impassioned thing about it. And I think even his initial reaction was just sort of like, oh, this is disturbing or unnerving.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Right. But no call for him to step aside or whatever. Right. And, you know. Saying that the people of Alabama will sort it out is not taking a stance in any way whatsoever, because that's being like people will decide for themselves if these women are lying. Right. And because that's not the question i'm asking we're asking if the president is like co-signing an accused pedophile right uh didn't you hear that uh bannon was like reaching out oh yeah i was reading an article about that yes steve bannon apparently reached out to sean hannity because on tuesday
Starting point is 00:31:19 sean hannity gave roy moore like 24 hours to explain the whole story it seemed like the wave was cresting to be like fuck roy Roy Moore, get him out of here. Right. So Hannity came out strongly. Yeah. And he's like, hey, if you don't like I would suggest that you step aside or whatever. If you can't produce some kind of defense for why your stories just don't add up and this whole thing looks like shit. And he wrote, you know, Roy Moore put this really whack open letter together.
Starting point is 00:31:43 That was really not much of anything. And then the next day, Sean Hannity is like, well, I think the people of Alabama will make the right choice. And this was all in the heels of this reporting that was suggested that Steve Bannon reached out to Sean Hannity to be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, that's my guy. That's my guy. Can you just ease up a little bit? Don't totally flame him. And then if you look, it's like lockstep with what Sarah Huckabee sanders says too it's like right the people of alabama will decide so that's clearly something that seems like it might be coming from the banning camp well because it's his guy like
Starting point is 00:32:14 and a lot of it too is i'm sure bannon has been communicating with trump or his camp being like this is your base right these bannonites are your base so don't abandon them because you already don't have anybody out here meanwhile more people are coming out right and being like yeah no he was a well-known pedophile at this mall he like assaulted these women uh yeah and then there's like another one who said like he called her in trigonometry class oh yeah that was the new one there he yeah so she worked at the mall he kept being like like, hey, can I get your number? I want to ask you out. I'm a 33-year-old man, and she's like 16.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And she was like, no, my dad would be mad if you called my house. So he knew what high school she went to. He called the high school and had her pulled out of class. And he was like, hey, it's Roy Moore. What are you up to? And she was like, I'm in trigonometry class. What the fuck is wrong with you? And he just basically badgered her
Starting point is 00:33:10 until she'd go on a date with him. And then he tried to kiss her at the end of the night. And she felt very uncomfortable. But this is, again, a daughter age. Yeah. It is weird just learning about all the intricacies of how far people are going out of their way to protect this system that is actively crumbling anyways, where they're like, oh, how long can we like get this to it? Unfortunately, in the GOP, I feel like it's more likely to work out in their favor because it seems like a lot of the GOP base does not want to believe that any of this is happening anyways. Well, most like I think nationally, though, everyone recognize that Roy Moore is just
Starting point is 00:33:47 a scumbag. But like these evangelical conservative Christians, especially in Alabama, are a unique set of voters. Right. And also because there is this entire apparatus of, you know, right wing news outlets that are focusing all of their efforts on convincing people in Alabama that it's a shmear. It's a, it's a, yeah, it's a shmear from Bernie Bernstein from New York.
Starting point is 00:34:11 That is, if people didn't listen to an episode earlier this week. Two episodes ago. Yeah. They, they had a robocall where they tried to make it sound like the Washington Post was calling around asking for people to lie and say that Roy Moore sexually abused them. That's so much work. That's so much work. And the character who they had was a journalist from the Washington Post named Bernie Bernstein.
Starting point is 00:34:39 The voice was whack like that. Sounded like a Jerky Boys character, like a rejected Jerky Boys character. Oh, my God. whack like that sounded like a jerky boys character like a rejected jerky boys character also in the uh mengazi uh it's come out a woman who was 16 in 1986 uh says that sylvester stallone had sex with her and then like after they had sex was like hey can you also like have sex with my bodyguard who then came out of the bathroom where he had been the whole time and then like they forced her to do uh bad stuff that you know you can go read about yourself but it's really fucked up stuff this is when stallone was in vegas uh filming over the top uh so that movie's ruined. I mean, the movie was fucking dumb to begin with. What?
Starting point is 00:35:28 No, yeah, that movie was bad. I mean, it's about fucking arm wrestling. Yeah. But I was going to compare this being Jamie's fourth appearance to Rocky IV, which is the best Rocky, but it just seems inappropriate. Stallone's gone, baby. We're done with him. One last thing I have to say about Benghazi is it's interesting watching people, because I do understand that if these are people that are friends, whether this be political or entertainment, there is a processing time. about uh louis for the first time uh like on her on her show on hulu and i was personally not super
Starting point is 00:36:06 thrilled with how uh she handled it but basically it was like okay well this is clearly true but he's my friend so it's hard to like process and it's like okay but also like it's not really about you like you know i don't know i just like people need to use their platforms responsibly, man. Right. Yeah. And I feel like there's just like missed opportunity after missed opportunity. Not by like, and I'm not saying they're bad people, but it's just like, well, yeah, this is the time where you use your platform to help people and not be like, this is actually really hard for me right now. It's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah. Put the spotlight on the culture itself right not like right well the same thing with with like trump using the excuse of like uh it's just i don't have i don't have time it's like dude you do like make the time i don't know yeah you won't uh all right we have a couple updates from stories from earlier this week uh the meek mill story we talked about about how he had this, like, wacky judge who was harassing him, trying to get him to re-record Boyz II Men's Unbended Knee and just do all this strange shit. Jay-Z wrote an op-ed talking about this story in The New York Times today. And there are a couple of details we missed. So, you know, we had heard that he had been arrested in the last year,
Starting point is 00:37:30 which were violations of his probation, which sounds bad. But so one arrest was for an altercation at a St. Louis airport. But when video of the altercation was released, all charges were dropped because it clearly wasn't his fault. And then he was arrested for driving recklessly in New York, which I imagined he was, they said it was for popping a wheelie on a dirt bike. I imagined he was, you know, doing wheelies in Times Square, like in the middle of traffic. No, it was actually on the set of a video during a video shoot uh he uploaded a video of himself doing a wheelie
Starting point is 00:38:08 to instagram and a cop was following him and like watching his instagram and saw the video and you know used that to arrest him like so they're clearly out to get this dude right the the judge who is we've already talked about is crazy and just looking for any excuse to be in a room with Meek Mill so she can tell him who she thinks his manager should be. She was trying to get him to switch management to like a friend or a relative of hers. She is actively fucking with him. And Jay-Z's editorial was about the fact that, you know, probation is used to a lot of the time harass black men. Like he said, as of 2015, one third of the 4.65 million Americans who were on some sort of parole or probation were black, which is obviously way disproportionate to how many black people there are in the country or like what portion of the population they are. So I don't know. He says black people are sent to prison for probation and parole violations at much higher rates than white people,
Starting point is 00:39:16 which, you know, isn't surprising, but it's still pretty troubling. And, you know, so this Meek Mill story also seems to be about a bigger kind of trend in the justice system. And there's some studies actually just came out, I think, this week, just confirming what most people already knew, that men of color are inordinately face much higher prison sentences than their white counterparts. Right. And so this is the second time that Meek Mill has been sent to prison for parole violations. So Jay-Z points out that Meek Mill was around 19 when he was convicted on charges relating to drug and gun possession, and he served his entire eight month sentence. So he did his time. And Jay-Z says now he's 30. So he's been on probation for basically his entire adult life. And with this infraction, the judge sent him to prison. But the prosecution, the prosecutor in the case, which prosecutors are not known for being like friendly, the prosecutor recommended no additional jail time. They were like, no, this is not a big deal. And the judge sent him away to prison.
Starting point is 00:40:24 In 2014, the judge ordered him to take etiquette classes. He was jailed for five months for like some perceived slight. And it was because he performed out of state without her permission. And, you know, he's trying to make a living as an artist. And according to Meek Mill, he spent much of that five months in solitary confinement, which we'll do a future segment on solitary. But just according to everybody who knows stuff about like human torture, that that is like the worst thing you can do to a human being. And he was sent to solitary confinement for months at a time because he performed out of town. And this judge was trying to make a living. Right. One bit of good news for Meek Mill is apparently the judge has set a bail hearing for him on November 27th.
Starting point is 00:41:22 So he may be allowed to be freed on bail pending appeal. After Thanksgiving. Yeah, which I have to imagine has something to do with it. Well, yeah, I mean, because not even that, you know, it's been reported that the FBI was investigating this judge because of her asking Meek Mill to switch his management companies as like they're viewing that as like an extortionate demand. Oh, so that I feel like you do that when you're doing it that way because it is right. So that's cool of the judge to consider letting him go after he spent Thanksgiving in prison for popping a wheelie in a video.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Also, we covered a really weird YouTube channel yesterday called Toy Freaks, made by a gentleman named Freak Daddy, or who refers to himself as Freak Daddy, where he basically, on camera, has his six- and eight-year-old daughters dress up as babies in baby onesies and throw up food and do all sorts of things that appear to be directly staged for people with weird fetishes. That channel, which had hundreds of millions of views on a lot of their videos, was taken
Starting point is 00:42:32 down. You can no longer watch these children being abused by their father. We're calling that the daily zeitgeist effect. Took it down. Beep, beep, beep, beep. I mean, yeah. No, it's clearly not us. They've been in trouble for a while. They've been looking at this for a minute.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But yeah, we'll take credit for that. Also, if Meek Mill gets out, that's all us. Not J.J. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back after this. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
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Starting point is 00:46:58 And we're back. What a break. What a break. And we're thrilled to be joined by super producer Anna Hosnier For Bloid Watch Bloid Watch Hello
Starting point is 00:47:12 So this is where we take a look At the headlines that people are seeing As they line up in the grocery store Because These words are entering Millions of people's minds every day. People still need to buy milk no matter what, unless you're lactose intolerant, I guess. So what are we seeing on the headlines, guys? The National Enquirer has a headline that is claiming that
Starting point is 00:47:40 Joe Biden is attacking Obama. Specifically, it says, Bitter Biden attacks Obama! Bleh! So their headline is, Obama stabbed me in the back! Exclamation point. Obviously, he never says that. What he does talk about is that Obama wanted to avoid a primary
Starting point is 00:48:01 that would do damage to the eventual Democratic candidate, And Obama seemed to think that Hillary had the better chance, or at the very least, that Hillary was not going to back down. So one actually interesting quote they did pull from his book is, she did not, talking about Hillary, he says, she did not advance much joy at the prospect of running she seemed to me like a person propelled by forces not entirely of her own making uh which is an interesting take that i hadn't heard like you always heard that hillary was just this ambitious person who was singularly driven by a mission to become
Starting point is 00:48:40 president eventually and uh biden's take was she was kind of over it by that point. And it was no joy going through the, uh, motions. Well, that's his take. That's his take. It's an interesting take.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Uh, it has nothing to do with the headline on national inquire, which is better. Biden, the tax Obama. I am going to get a tattoo of that. Yeah. Uh,
Starting point is 00:49:01 and then they also say proof Jagger Hoover ordered JFK murder, but, uh, they probably don't have that J. Edgar Hoover ordered JFK murder. But they probably don't have that proof. What y'all got? Oh, man. Let me tell y'all what I got here. The National Examiner. They've got a doozy.
Starting point is 00:49:16 On the cover, first of all, it says, The Amazing Secret Life of Queen Elizabeth. She's just like us. We already know that, okay? We know she drives her own car sometimes and goes grocery shopping, whatever. But they say, she's addicted to McDonald's, loves to drink and gamble, clips coupons to save on cash. On the inside, though, when you start reading it, she's not addicted to McDonald's. They say she enjoys McDonald's from time to time, and they point to the fact that she owns, I guess, a franchise in a strip mall somewhere. That's my bitch, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 So anyway, that's that. But the real juicy one is this one. Revealed. Hidden Bible prophecies. Now, this is for all my... Hold on to your butts, guys. Yeah, these are for all my evangelical Christians out here. According to a scripture scholar, this man has radically different interpretations of the Bible. And this man has revealed startling new prophecies that will come true next year.
Starting point is 00:50:03 First of all, they call this person a leading scholar. I tried to Google him. There is nothing about this person. His name is Professor Gerhard Lutz, a theological analyst and director of the respected Global Conference on Scriptural Research in Berlin. I was not able to find much information on this. But apparently, he basically painstakingly examined the original wordings in ancient languages and cross-referenced multiple texts and developed what he calls matrixes of modality. And he basically says that he developed new insights on what the scriptures say will occur.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So you want to hear some of these hot fucking takes that are apparently in the Bible? This is what this man is saying in his reanalyzed version of the Bible, what these prophecies are. One, Medicare will run out of money much sooner than expected i believe that's one of jesus's that was it was uh another great one a new fad inhaling alcohol infused vapor oh that's a psalm exactly uh how about this one i think this is from from Philippians 3.14. It actually reads, New technology using brain sensations will allow dogs and cats to answer simple questions and communicate with people. The 11th commandment. I do. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Another one, John 3.16. Poisoned candy from China will sicken thousands around the world. Another one, Colossians, from the book of Colossians. I mean, again, I'm just making up these Bible's not he's not saying that's what 316 says but i'm just having fun but these are his this is what he's saying the bible says vladimir putin wary of trying to manage russia's struggling economy will resign and become a political commentator and lifestyle guru on u.s television so i mean most of these are like understandable predictions they're just like trying to like make about, like, a trend or some shit.
Starting point is 00:51:47 That is the least likely thing to happen ever. Right. That Vladimir Putin would become a political commentator. And a lifestyle guru. Right. There's a couple more. A member of a successful pop music group will spontaneously burst into flames on stage. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Oh, no. Yeah. Who could it be? I'm worried. Yeah, I mean, that would be spontaneous combustion has yet to ever be proven. But again, if the Bible is saying it's going to happen, it will happen. J.C. Chazet. Someone look out for J.C. Chazet.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Another one is Bill and Hillary Clinton will relocate to a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the U.S. Supposedly for their retirement. The Bible is supporting your right-wing nudity. Ben is just going under the name Gerhard. Gerhard Lutz. The Bible's like, what about those emails? And then this last one. ISIS will be replaced
Starting point is 00:52:37 by an even more violent organization whose members sometimes carry out suicide attacks against one another the gop oh hot take let them know so that's that for the national examiner yeah they they really called their shot with a couple of those yeah uh hosnier uh you know i i did not realize this but apparently kendall jenner is dating uh blake griffin which i think is quite alarming you don't know where have you been don't ask but uh who don't ask i i think we need to get in there and get him out of this kardashian situation basketball players notoriously are
Starting point is 00:53:16 ruined by dating kardashians they fuck skill out of basketball players it is and football players look we can't allow this to happen. We need him out there. Yeah. I mean, what? He's a creationist. He's putting up good numbers, I think. Yeah, he's doing all right.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Okay. So we don't know yet. Time will tell. Look, James Harden got in and out pretty quick, and he's doing way better. So is that the trick? You get in and out, and don't stay too long?
Starting point is 00:53:41 Don't get married. Okay. So James Harden dated, I think, Chloe. Chloe. Chloe. So James Harden dated, I think, Chloe over an off-season. Supposedly, she dumped him. And then for two months at the beginning of the season, he was a disaster. People were like, what happened to James Harden? It was like when Rookie of the Year's arm breaks and he becomes not good anymore. Maybe they put something in the food.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Right. But then James Harden, eventually, it wore off and he became the natural again. I'm mixing my metaphors of sports movies. Are they all just competing to see who can date the best basketball player? Because obviously Kim set the bar real low with Chris Humphries.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Oh, I thought that was true. Then Chloe's James Harden. Wasn't she with Reggie Bush? I think they're just trying to date the biggest media star. And I think Kim just won. Then she should just date Cardi B. They should all just date Cardi B. If you're really going for those impressions on the internet.
Starting point is 00:54:40 That's true. Jamie, what you got? I got Star Magazine, which is mostly just, the stars, they're just like us. Hey, look, they're filling up gas. I did come across
Starting point is 00:54:49 a compelling picture of Lisa Bonet and a donkey that I'd be remiss not to mention. Yeah, why is she walking, it looks like she's walking a donkey just down the street,
Starting point is 00:54:57 down the road. Apparently because she's in love. The editors of Star would have us believe because the caption is, days after news broke that she had wed
Starting point is 00:55:04 longtime love, Jason Momoa, a.k.a. Aquaman, who is apparently just around, Lisa Bonet was with a donkey. Not too far from here in Topanga, California. She's in a leather jacket. She's walking around with a donkey. She seems perfectly content. Yeah. The fringe on that jacket is amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:24 It is great there's beads involved we've got to assume that jason momoa was like you know around one of us most likely because right this may have been the day you saw him the most spottable man uh currently in the city but yeah at least when they hang out with a donkey mary k nashley uh still alive there's a great quote i went to grade school with them. Really? Yep. They're talking about their style evolution,
Starting point is 00:55:48 and truly, they could not be more boring if they tried. They seem to say they like long, black robes these days. Yeah, they're just sort of, they're like monk chic. Right. Just like walking around. They're like the chic Grim Reaper. Shalhoub chic. At this point.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. Yeah, Star's got nothing for us this week. Sorry. It took me a long time to get Shalhoub chic. Supreme Court chic. Sorry, it took me a long time to get there. There it is! Should I add one more? Apparently Angelina Jolie is wasting away after this. I mean, that is kind of true. It's a really sad photo of her looking very
Starting point is 00:56:18 very thin. They think according to the author of The Accidental Diet from Fugly to Fox, she is 82 pounds when she technically should be between 123 to 140 for her age and frame. Yeah. No, I mean, there was that big Oscars moment where she went up on the stage and stood kind of funny with her leg out to the side. And then when Jim Rash won the Oscar, he did the funny thing where he stood with his leg out to the side. Classic Jim Rash.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Jim Rash is a funny dude. Check out After Stranger Things starring Jim Rash. Is it good? I literally watched all of it. Very embarrassing. Really? That's not embarrassing. I love Jim Rash.
Starting point is 00:56:57 He's a funny dude. He's the principal from Community for people who don't know him. He won an Oscar? Yeah, he wrote The Descendants. Oh, right. He's had principal from Community for people who don't know him. He won an Oscar? Yeah, he wrote The Descendants. Oh, right. He's had a weird career. Yeah. He's just like a talented...
Starting point is 00:57:10 And now he's just like hosting the after show for Stranger Things. After Stranger Things, yeah. But so there was that moment where she like went up and stood that way and people were like, ah, what a zany pop culture moment. But like nobody talked about the fact that she looked like very sick. She was like super thin. I hope she's good. I hope she's healthy. Yeah, I do too.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Rumor has it she really struggled with Brad Pitt and Marion Cotillard on that film. Allied? Is that what it was? Yeah. So they're trying to tie that to her weight loss. I think they're just trying to tie the whole divorce and the whole situation to her weight loss. And being a single mother to 44 kids. Yeah, it's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Everybody's going to sell magazines. Right. What we have learned about the tabloids is if it is possible to tie a story to Brad Pitt dating a woman, it is going to happen. It's going to save print. Back to Kardashians, guys. InTouch, it is going to happen. It's going to save print. Back to Kardashians, guys. InTouch, it is going to save print. InTouch is reporting that Kylie, who is pregnant with Travis Scott's child. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Straight up. Is pregnant and cheated on. Travis Scott is cheating on her. Oh, no. Oh, jeez. Which. I mean, the Astros did just win, so I'm sure he was just partying. Is he a big Astros fan?
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yes. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like there's like a mixture of sort of, you know, wanting to be the Kardashians and being jealous of their lives and also schadenfreude. Is that how you pronounce it? Schadenfreude. Schadenfreude. Where people love to see bad things happen to them. I guess that's true of all celebrities, so I don't have a point.
Starting point is 00:58:47 That's why these magazines sell, baby. And in case you see the Globe, which says, perv Harvey Weinstein jailed, he has not been jailed. It's actually a fairly convincing Photoshop, but they turn to the actual story they have and it's just like, man, that guy should go to jail. How can you even run that as a headline? You can't even make sense of that tense-wise. You're just straight up lying on the cover.
Starting point is 00:59:13 So that's what I got going on in Bloidwatch. Anything anybody wants to bring up before we close out? I would say in Miles, Bloid, I caught a glimpse of a Thomas Kinkade set that's being sold. It's Thomas Kinkade season, everybody. You're going to want to buy a Thomas Kinkade set that's being sold. It's Thomas Kinkade season, everybody. You're going to want to buy your Thomas Kinkade paintings and puzzles. Also remember that Thomas Kinkade, who, by the way, no one remembers, has been dead for like six years, once whipped his dick out at Disney World and pissed on a statue of Mickey Mouse. That's Thomas Kinkade.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Watch. Thomas Kinkade is the guy who paints those like scenic. The painter of light. Yeah. I'm upset. I'm obsessed with Thomas Kinkade watch. Thomas Kinkade is the guy who paints those, like, scenes of... The painter of light! Yeah, dude, I'm obsessed with Thomas Kinkade. Yeah, he just once, just, he had, he was having a day, and he just whipped his dick out at Disney World and just pissed on a statue of Mickey Mouse. Right. Turn up.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yeah. He is the painter of every shitty painting in, like, dentists' offices, I feel like. Yeah, and, like, yeah, my aunt did a lot of his puzzles. We should hang some Kinkades in here. Oh, and Reba McEntire has been, her husband of 26 years dumped her for her best friend. Country superstar turns to
Starting point is 01:00:16 Faith and Friends and says, I'm happier than ever. With the most manic smile on her face. They couldn't have picked a meaner, yeah, like, a less convincing picture for I'm happier than ever. Oh, yeah, like a less convincing picture for her. Happier than ever. I don't know, she looks pretty happy.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But it's good to see Reba still out there. Dude, watch reruns of Reba the TV show. It's tight. Is it? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:33 yeah, yeah. It's a great show. Hell yeah. Dude, single mom who works too hard. All right,
Starting point is 01:00:37 that is going to do it for our season finale and we're going to try something new out where this weekend we release a highlight reel of the week's shows so it'll be basically the weekly zeitgeist uh so you can listen back and uh if you missed any episodes hear what you missed um so you can look forward to that uh jamie thank you so
Starting point is 01:01:01 much for joining us for the fourth time hey thanks, thanks for having me for the fourth time. Fourth time's a charm. Fourth time, maybe. I'm going to get it right one of these days. Truly a joy. Yeah, we're just having you back to be like, she's going to get it this time. We're really going to whip her into shape. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:14 No, you're the best. Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter, at Hamburger Phone. You can listen to my podcast, The Bechdel Cast. And just look around for me. I'm like Jason Momoa. I just pop up places. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And she is stunning in person. It seems like she's like a superhero. Her tattoos are incredible. She looks like a Dothraki. Yeah. I got my little worm tattoo. Anna Hosnia, it's been a joy to have you on. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Where can people find you? I'm on Twitter. Anna Hosni. Yeah. You also have a podcast, don't you? I do have a podcast called Ethnically Ambiguous about being brown in America. And if you want to hear me go crazy on Saudi Arabia, I'm going to go crazy. I'm on that one, too.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I'm on this last week's episode, too. Miles of Grey is on this last week's episode. Please give it a listen. You learn so much about his deep personal history with his immigrant parents. It is a really good show. You get up on all sorts of Middle Eastern news that you probably don't know about and you'll be glad you do know about. And Anna's picture was next to Oprah yesterday. That's true.
Starting point is 01:02:21 You can find me under the Bold Women section of iTunes. Hell yeah. Bold. Hell yeah. Get it Women section of iTunes Hell yeah Bold Hell yeah Get it Hell yeah Hell yeah Miles
Starting point is 01:02:29 Yeah It's been truly a pleasure To have you on the show Thank you so much Yes This week Where can people find you? You can find me
Starting point is 01:02:36 Probably watching some Reba McIntyre reruns In a second Off of the suggestion Of J-Lo over here Yeah But if you're more interested In like the social media thing
Starting point is 01:02:44 Like Twitter and Instagram Holler at me on at miles of gray. G-R-A-Y, not G-R-E-Y. A-Y. You can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien, or you can find me watching Roseanne, which is the superior blue collar show. Roseanne is fucking great. Team Barbara Jean. Did you hear Roseanne's coming back? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:03 From the dead? Yeah. No, Roseanne the show is coming back. They're like fuller housing now. Which I feel like is a better... What? John Goodman? Yeah, with the whole cast.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Laurie Metcalf? Uh-huh. What? Yeah. Which I feel like that is a show that we need in this moment. We need a show about what it's like to be Roseanne. Honestly, a million percent I would take Reba Reboot over that. Reba Reboot.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Give me the Reba Reboot, baby. You can find me at Jack underscore O-B-R-I-E-N. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. Our website is DailyZeitgeist.com, where you can find our footnotes, where we post links to all of the stuff we're talking about, except for the tabloids. They don't put that shit online.
Starting point is 01:03:48 So you'll just have to trust us or go to your local supermarket. You can find us on Instagram at the Daily Zeitgeist. And we have a Facebook page that is the Daily Zeitgeist that we will begin updating again fairly soon. And let's give shouts out to the wonderful people who make this show. The Daily Zeitgeist is produced by Anna Hosnier and Nick Stumpf. Our project manager is Sophie Lichterman. The show is written by all those people, Miles and I, and each day's guest. It is also written by J.M. McNabb, Alison Ze and I, and each day's guest. It is also written by
Starting point is 01:04:26 J.M. McNabb, Allison Zeidman, and Sam Roudman. And it is edited by Nicholas Stumpf and Lawrence Stumpf. The theme song is by Dream Panther and Trey Finley. And the in-between music is by Brian.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Brian. I'm just going to keep it Brian. I don't want to air him out like that. He's like Bono, but? Brian. Brian. I'm just going to keep it Brian. I don't want to air him out like that. He's like Bono, but just Brian. Brian. And that's going to do it for this week. Thanks for listening. Listen this weekend for the weekly Zeitgeist, the highlight reel, and we'll be back on Monday. Season premiere.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Season premiere of season seven. Oh yeah. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself?
Starting point is 01:05:29 There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before. Tried to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky.
Starting point is 01:06:30 The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Captain's Log, Stardate 2024. We're floating somewhere in the cosmos,
Starting point is 01:06:57 but we've lost our map. Yeah, because you refuse to ask for directions. It's Space Gem, there are no roads. Good point. So, where are we headed? Into the unknown, of course. Join us on In Our Own World as we uncover hidden truths, navigate the depths of culture, identity, and the human spirit. With a hint of mischief.
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