The Daily Zeitgeist - Kanye Takes The Red Pill, The Waffle House Hero 4.23.18

Episode Date: April 24, 2018

In episode 132, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Charla Lauriston to discuss the Waffle House shooting and the suspect who has been apprehended, election midterms coming up, how GOP candidates are starting to take on the Trump vibe, Democrats not saying anything captivating, Shania Twain being on an idiotic tweet train, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 28, Episode 1 of Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For April 23rd, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Farrah Jack O'Brien. Jack O'Brien. Boo.

Brian. Boo. Okay. Or, are you sleeping? Are you sleeping, brother Jack? It's not brother John. Jack is the English version of Jack. I don't know.

I'm not well-versed in nursery rhymes. Come on. Come on, nursery rhyme translators. That is courtesy of Aisha Sissay. Sissay. Sissay. Yes. There's an accent mark.

Yes. And I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hello. My name is Dr. Gray Thumb. That is a Cypress Hill reference. Thank you to Evan Alderson on Twitter. I should have used that last week, but, you know, I just got around to it. You got some leftovers.

Got some leftovers in the tank. And we are thrilled to be joined by the hilarious writer and comedian, Sharla Lauriston. Sharla. Sharla. A.K.A. Sharla. Sharla? That's when someone recognizes you at Ikea.

Yeah. I also have a twin, so that. Oh, you do? Yeah. Identical? Her name is Ursula, yes. Wow. So people a lot of times are like, Ursula?

So I'm Sharla, A.K.A. Ursula. Oh, that's even a better A.K.A. Yeah. It's actually a really good A.K.A. Ursula? Ursula? What's even a better a.k.a. It's actually a really good a.k.a. Ursula? Ursula? What are you doing here?

I didn't know you lived in L.A. What's your twin do? She lives in D.C. She works for a union. She does a... Oh, which one? I don't know. She does some of that commie shit.

Sharla, what's something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? All right. Well, this is a little gross, but I was just looking up how to heal a stye naturally. And last time I was on, I was talking about my Haitian-ness, my Haitian heritage. Sac passe. Because we were talking about the left hand scratch thing. But the Haitians actually have a remedy for styes and it's garlic.

Like you just rub garlic on your eye? You slice garlic and you rub it on your eye and it gets rid of your stye. So that's a rhyming way. Put the garlic to your eye. And I just wanted to get rid of your stye. And I wanted to like, I just was Googling it to see, you know, if there are other things to do. And garlic

wasn't even on there. I didn't find it anywhere. So you got some deep cut remedies. Oh, really? I didn't find it anywhere. So you got some deep cut remedies. I got some. Haitians are really brilliant. They're just like doctors. And it works? It totally works. So I used to get styes all the time.

Wait, how do you get them? It's just that thing where it looks like you have a weird nugget under your eye. I have another rhyme for how you get them. You put your stupid dirty hand in your stupid eye and you get a stye. Oh, there you go. Oh, so it's like an infection. It's basically because you're gross. Your hands are dirty.

But I used to get them monthly when I lived in New York City for whatever reason just because it's so dirty. So gross. Yeah, and I was also sleeping face down in the street a lot, so that probably didn't help. I washed my face in street corner puddles. Oh, that's not good. Right. That's funny. I got them.

But yeah, I haven't gotten them ever since I left. And what, you just got to rub just a little garlic on there and it'll go down? I rub it like I did it all weekend. Because your eye looks 100% to me. No, you're not looking at the right eye. Oh, fuck. He's looking at the wrong eye. Oh, my bad.

Yeah, no, it was fucked up. I couldn't even open my eye. No, it doesn't actually look bad at all. Because I've been putting the garlic on. Oh, my bad. Yeah, no, it was fucked up. I couldn't even open my eye. No, it doesn't actually look bad at all. Clearly, right. Because I've been putting the garlic on all weekend. I see. And when you put garlic on it, you just slice a piece of raw garlic and rub it on your eye? And rub it on, you know the part

that has the juice? Right. Because there's antimicrobial properties to garlic. Oh, yeah. So just like the actual juice of the garlic or whatever, or the side that, and then whenever it dries up, I'll wipe my eye with the wet cloth and do it again. And like, it goes down significantly. Like something I looked up was like, go to the hospital.

Get antibiotics. And I was like, I don't think so. That's what rich white people do. Right. I was like, I got garlic. I got garlic. Yeah. Let me exhaust all my at-home options before I go to the.

Wait, so what would be the traditional way? Like what if you were like a scared person who knows not of the powers of garlic, what would you probably do? Just go to a dog's cloth. What I found was that – Yeah. What did you say? Warm washcloth. Yeah.

That's it. That's what it told you to do. It's a problem that can be solved quite easily just in general. It goes away within a week by itself. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know if the warm washcloth was working. One thing that I did do once that is actually sort of a weird little hack is I heated a baked potato in a microwave. And that keeps it – so a warm washcloth loses its heat in like 15 seconds.

But a baked potato lasts for like 30 minutes. Nice. I see. So I had like a baked potato inside a wet, warm towel, and somebody walked in. My roommate walked in, and I was like, oh, hey, what's up? Just rubbing a baked potato on my eye. And he's like, Jack, what did I say about you touching my fucking potatoes, man?

Right, exactly. I took it off his plate and put it on my eye. Charlotte, what's something that is underrated? I don't know of anyone else. I feel like a lot of people might feel like this, but I was eating some Indian vegetarian food over the weekend and I was just like, why isn't this

known as the best food in the world? Indian vegetarian. Indian vegetarian food is the best food in the world. Nobody talks about it. Tell me, what's the dish you were eating when this realization hit you? We had some dal, some lentils.

Love the dal. Garlic-y, spicy, but not too spicy. You know, I think that's another thing. I don't know if people just can't take spice at all,

but it's just good spice. And you are here on behalf of the garlic industry. I'm here for big garlic. That's the second, your first two things have been garlic. I'm actually like really into garlic. I know, I'm surprised you didn't use your AKA garlic. It's here for big garlic. That's the second. Your first two things have been garlic. I'm actually like really into garlic.

I know. I'm surprised you didn't use your AKA. It's good for your body. Garlic. Garlic. If you want to be healthy, eat some garlic. For sure. They made this thing called dokla, which is made out of gram flour.

I think that's like chickpea flour maybe. Okay. But it's like this spongy and it's like colored with a turmeric this spongy yellow bread basically okay that sounds amazing they like sprinkle it with mustard seeds it's also like visually beautiful like yeah indian vegetarian food uh and they had this like um eggplant curry and was it barta i don't know what it's called actually yeah i I love Indian food. Yeah, because I just started trying to eat less meat. And so you're trying to not go to like the regular veg places. Right, right, right.

Because I'm Haitian and I like spicy food. I like flavor. Yeah. So Indian vegetarian food has opened up a whole new world of like amazing food. And you don't even think about the fact that you're not eating meat. So it's underrated as fuck to me. Right, right, right. Are there Haitian restaurants like around not in Los Angeles there was one

called T George's and you know people listening can tell me if I'm wrong yeah I'm sure they will some I did the research I was trying to find like Haitian restaurants out here at least in LA proper and T George's recently closed I think like last year or two years ago. And that was the only Haitian restaurant. And I have just not found. I think the way to find is there's probably somebody who has a catering business, which is usually how those. T. George's was a catering business. Yeah, I don't know. We might have to go to some like black churches.

We might. Because you'd be like, hey, where's the Haitian do that? I tried to find a Haitian church too because that's where Haitians are and they know where the food is. And I couldn't find a Haitian church out here either. So I don't know where the Haitians are What's a great Haitian dish? Guillo is the

you know if you go to Haiti you gotta have guillo you know it's deep fried pork and you usually have it with plantains called banan pese which are just like you know flat deep fried plantains. Oh like tostones Yeah exactly

and then you'll usually have it with like some are just like, you know, flat, deep fried plantains. Oh, like tostones. Yeah, exactly. And then you'll usually have it with like some pickled peppers that like Haitians make. Like they like cut up like carrots and peppers and all kinds of things. And they just like put it in vinegar and like with it. So it's like this pickled coleslaw. Escavage. It's like pickled coleslaw basically.

Got you. That sounds delicious. Super spicy. It's so delicious. That's like the street food. Like everybody basically. Got you. That sounds delicious. Super spicy. It's so delicious. That's like the street food. Everybody has to have it. That sounds wonderful. It makes me want to go to the Haitian restaurant.

I know. Seriously, man. I'm getting so hungry. You should not record this around lunchtime. Right. I'm just going to be like, fuck the news of the day. Tell me more about Haitian food. Tell me more about-

Let's just describe Haitian food. Can you tell me more about President Fried Pork? I'm like, wait. Oh, that would be a me more about President Fried Pork? I'm like, wait. Oh, that would be a good president. President Fried Pork, I love him. Love his agenda. So much better than this current president. Charlotte, what is something that is overrated?

Weed. Ooh. An alternate point of view to our 420 episode. Oh, yeah. I think it's- I almost spit out my cold brew now now go on you know i haven't been smoking weed that long maybe five years probably which is not very long i think right i'm 30s i'm in my 30s um and i'm getting less and less enamored with it yeah and i think the proliferation of weed

is adding to that exhaustion with it. Like I'm just using it as a cure-all, an everyday use kind of thing for whatever. I'm kind of getting over it. Oh, like before just like, man, I'm stressed. Let me smoke. Let me relax a little bit. Or I have cramps. Let me smoke.

Or I got writer's block. Let me smoke. Or I need to sleep. Let me smoke. You know what I mean? Literally anything I needed, I would smoke. And now I'm like. I can see how that relationship can wear out eventually.

Because if it's like the means to an end, then like versus me, I don't know where I stand. I can't think. No, but I can see how, especially too, like as I see the like stores expand and brands come like advertising more aggressively. stores expand and brands come like advertising more aggressively it's weird to sort of like be in this weird sort of quasi prohibition era where there's also like massive marketing pushes for weed. And I saw

an article in the Guardian I didn't even read it but the headline was like weed made me a better mom and I was like get the fuck out of here we don't need pieces like that that's you writing immediately over it the writer of that was communicating directly to an in-law who was critical of the meat smokers.

Right. Marijuana culture has always had its side that was obnoxious and annoying to be around. Right. The white dudes with dreadlocks who are going to tell you that marijuana can fix everything and have all these conspiracies and shit like that. And I'm sure the mainstreaming of it is not going to fix that. That is just gonna make that even more present

in the mainstream culture and you're gonna be seeing things on Goop about how sick marijuana is. I've also had a lot of emotional reactions to weed as far as it making me extra anxious or extra depressed or you know like i've really had to watch when i smoke because if i'm in the least bit emotionally triggered it can really fuck up my yeah yeah yeah that's uh i went either way back when i smoked and but uh our guest on friday's 420 episode, Josh Androsky,

was saying that for his underrated, it was getting too high because you learn things about yourself. You learn what your biggest insecurities are and have to confront them. That was always my thing. I would always feel much better after I would have a horrible experience, but I would have those experiences where I was like, God, right. I'm the worst. I'm like, damn,

have my parents thought about their retirement plan? Cause I'm high and seeing one commercial come up. I'm like, Oh my God, what about them? What about their future? You can get that with shrooms and you don't need. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I think it's all versions of like, yeah, if it is meant to sort of inspire some deep, uh, self reflection and introspection, then yeah,

like it can work in that sense. But also, yeah, I think some people, like I have friends who are just wired in a way that they react to smoking weed in a way that just exacerbates certain ways of thinking. And even for the self-reflection thing, it's like you can't do that every day. You don't want to deep dive every single day

into your own brain. It's real dark in there. Yeah, I like to. I don't know. I can't. Sharla, what is a myth? What is something that people think is true that you know to be not true? That breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

Thank you. I like it. Go on. I have been intermittent fasting for the past year, and I skip breakfast every day. Were you a staunch observer of the breakfast? I was a freaking religious breakfast eater. Like I could skip another meal, but breakfast wouldn't be it. Especially because I love breakfast food in particular.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to Emanuel College in Boston, and we had like an annual event where we would serve breakfast at midnight and like you know I'd be the first person there that's some stoner shit some stoner shit and you only was like a super Catholic school it was a super Catholic school it was like not about drugs even though it totally should have been right well I went to Catholic high school and it was all about drugs but I was just overeating I was overeating and I didn't need breakfast and it was usually sugary it It was usually a muffin. It was usually pancakes or some shit that you don't need.

Yeah, of course. No, it's terrible for you. It's delicious. Or cereal. The whole idea that it is the most important meal of the day comes from a marketing push by the bacon and egg industry. It honestly is that cynical. I, for one, embrace our chicken embryo overlords and swine.

But yeah, the dairy lobby, you guys, just know that the dairy lobby is killing lots and lots of people indirectly. Sure, right. Especially when you look at those images of part of a balanced breakfast, and it was a big-ass glass of milk, a big-ass glass of orange juice, a whole plate of eggs, and you're like, damn, I'm eating all this in one night. There's been one time in American history when our rate of death from heart disease has gone down. Otherwise, it's just been going up and up and up.

And the only time it went down was during World War II when there was milk rations. And you couldn't drink as much milk or use as much milk as you normally would. Because it's really bad for you. It's really bad for you. I have lost weight. because it's really bad for you. It's really bad for you. Yeah. I have lost weight, and another thing you guys can learn about me personally is my digestion has been superb. Okay.

Since skipping breakfast. Just no breakfast. I always try to be a breakfast person because I used to think like, oh, it's good for your metabolism too. Yeah, it jumpstarts your metabolism. Yeah, even if you're not eating just bullshit, but just to kind of put stuff in your body to get the

metabolism going. But I just have trouble like since I was a kid of being hungry in the morning. Yeah. But I love breakfast. I was just always eating breakfast like at one time. You had a problem of not being hungry? Yeah, like I'd wake up and I was never like, man, I need to eat. I would just be like, I'm ready to go. Well, this is the thing. Like you don't realize

that your body is trained to be hungry at that time when you eat breakfast every morning. Because when I stopped eating breakfast every morning, I'm really not hungry. Right. Your body adapts. Yeah. Your body really does adapt. And you get a sense of how hungry you actually are.

Like, I was never hungry because I was eating three meals a day. I was definitely eating way too much. Right, right, right. That was number one. Yeah. The new hot shit is, like, having a four-hour feeding-hour feeding window where you just eat during those four hours or something. Ify, by the way, was telling us about how- He comes in in a panic.

He's like, hold on, man. I got to eat these three chicken breasts. Or I'll be like, oh, you were eating on that podcast. He's like, my feeding window. Yeah, exactly. That's why I just skip breakfast. Because when you start learning about intermittent fasting, you learn all this crazy shit to do.

This is unsustainable. I'm not going to do that every day. I'll just skip breakfast. That's easy. Yeah. And speaking of breakfast, guys, let's get into the stories of the day. Yes. Waffle House.

Oh, oof. I shouldn't have said it in such a joyous way. But Waffle House. Why do you really have to just go, Waffle House. Yeah, Waffle House. Let's bring it down here uh no there was a mass shooting there uh in Nashville Waffle House uh the guy who the perp uh has a long history of making threats uh he was naked but for a trench coat very very strange story but yeah four people uh were killed and he was wrestled to the ground by like a real life john mclean action hero yeah like where as it was happening you know they're they're asking him like you know what were you thinking and he just said

i'm going to have to try to find some kind of flaw or a point in time where i could make it work for myself and by making work for himself he bumed this dude and tackled him to the ground and got the gun away from him. And then the dude eventually escaped. And as of just recording, we found out that he was apprehended. So, yeah, it's interesting to see. You know, there was a real hero there.

And this guy was also another person who had a very clear record of having problems with his mental state and he had his guns taken away but then they were given back to his father who then just gave them back to him and wait when you look at sort of his like he was a known entity to law enforcement for like saying stuff like Taylor Swift was actually stalking him uh and shit like that which I mean we don't know whether to believe that or not right like no uh if Taylor Swift yeah I mean I don't, we don't know whether to believe that or not, right? Like, no. If Twitter's... I mean, I don't know.

We don't know. But do you remember, I think last year there was a guy who bum-rushed the White House lawn and tried to get into the White House and was like, I'm a sovereign citizen. That's this guy. Right. So it's just, again, we need to be doing more about our gun control because clearly this is another person who clearly should not have been anywhere near any kind of weapons. And obviously gun rights people are going to say, well, he broke the law, but our laws need to be more strictly enforced and need to work around the fact that anybody can get a gun at any time, given the current just flood of guns in the United States.

So, yeah, we need to work around that because there are a lot of mentally ill people out there and there are a lot of guns out there. And when those two ingredients are put together, we're going to have shit like this until we start getting guns off the street, I think. Yeah. It's just weird how fucking normal this shit is now. You know what I mean?

Even when I saw the headline, I really thought, oh, only four people were killed. And that's fucking terrible place to be in mentally where that's like the calculus in my mind of like, oh, is there like a number that makes it a tragedy in my mind? Or like that's how I've had to compartmentalize. You know what I mean? If not for this fucking dude who just had the insane non-instinct for self-preservation, but just instinct to go do the thing that I think 99.9% of the population would not have the guts to do. And tackle. And he said he was only looking out for himself, but I'm sure he saved a lot of people's lives.

100% of Republicans that are for guns would never do that stuff. Right. They would never, ever, ever. And I don't even think if they had a gun on them, they would actually shoot another person. They wouldn't. Because this is the other thing, what we were talking about earlier, is like, I don't think, at least the gun owners I know, they don't own guns because they have a fantasy about using them on other people.

Like, gun owners I know are people who like target shooting or just like are part of like a culture of like you know their parents were veterans and things like that or in law enforcement so they they just grew up around guns or whatever but they don't this idea of a person who's like always packing a pistol or whatever and is just ready to enforce the law on somebody you know i think you have to really look at our fabric as people like we're not built to be doing shit like that yeah because it's bad shit crazy i i wish i heard more from sane gun owners like this because the whole conversation is so black and white it's like either guns go away or you have crazy people screaming that or like i would have killed away my guns and i would

have killed them and it's just like it'd be great to hear from sane regular people who who like use guns well i think recreationally right and i thought and think that there should be a lot of laws yeah you know regulating it but i don't hear from those well we did for a second right after parkland right there are a lot of people who were not a lot but there was this there was like this sort of uh it was fashionable for people to be like, I was in the military. This is my AR. I'm breaking it because citizens shouldn't have it. And there was that kind of thing.

But, yeah, I feel like there could be a lot to this debate when you actually have common sense people or even gun owners who aren't seen as immediately being these sort of doomsday prepper type people. It's really a shame that the NRA has chosen the direction they've chosen because the NRA is when you buy a gun, you go to a training course immediately that is sponsored by the NRA. They are pro-responsible gun ownership. It's just that their public persona, their public brand has become this like crazy fucking vigilante justice thing. And yeah, I mean, there are two camps. They're the same gun owners who buy a gun or two

and keep it in a safe or take it to target practice. But then there is this gun culture. Like if you look at gun magazines, there are all these stories uh there are ads written to be like you know protect your family with this like automatic or like semi-automatic assault rifle and you know those are the people that the gun industry is focused on because those are the people who buy 50 fucking guns right and are going to be the most sort of energetic when defending the the right to own a weapon right Yeah, I guess it really is two camps.

It's those people who, yeah, they're responsible, and other people who are really operating in this bizarre fantasy world where they have to protect themselves from the evil of the world. I think it's not even a bizarre world. It's very much a world that's been cultivated by this xenophobic racist. For sure, yeah, you're right. Like, they're coming to get me. Yeah, these thugs are going to invade your home. They're coming to get me yeah these thugs are gonna invade your

white women it's just like just you know i i would love for us to just talk more openly about like just call a thing a thing it's just like you guys have been brainwashed with racist and xenophobic ideas about right by your local news yeah you've never been outside of wherever you're from right exactly you've never met that kind of person. Right. Right. Exactly. You're scared of them and want to shoot them.

So it's, anyway. I think people, let's put pressure on responsible gun owners to kind of have more of a voice. Like, find your own NRA. Like, have, like, sane NRA. S-N-R-A. I want to see somebody put that shit together. I've had people message me on Twitter and Instagram talking about their gun like especially around the Parkland

time and we're talking about it saying like I'm a responsible gun owner I don't think people need like this and that but I think yeah it's important

that we can still talk about gun ownership in a way that is divorced from this idea that it's either taking all your guns or guns for everybody

there is a same middle ground yeah smartest person i've ever talked to about gun ownership is this guy jason pargin who writes uh at crack as david wong and he's a gun owner but he has this inside look at the gun industry because like he grew up around gun magazines and so he knows like how crazy that part of it is but But, you know, he's also a responsible gun owner. So, yeah, I think those are the people to sort of help us reel this fucking crazy conversation in a little bit.

Because I think on the right, many people view people on the left as every liberal person wants to take away all of your guns. And then there are people on the left who think everyone on the right in regards to guns are just crazy gun obsessed people who just want to keep guns everywhere out in the open and i think people need to understand that it's much more nuanced i feel like yeah the discussion is is really so black or white it's right and to me it like the saddest part is like whenever i read about it it looks like it just comes down to sales it just comes down to like if the conversation isn't black and white, then it hurts our sales. It's like, if we have any kind of sanity going into this, then our shareholders don't make money.

Because it's an industry where not people are, it's not like a refrigerator where every home needs one, but they want you to think that every home is incomplete without a weapon in it. If that is what needs to get hurt, then that thing needs to get hurt real bad. Those sales need to- Well, and that's why you're seeing a lot of manufacturers. I feel like it was Remington or Mossberg recently. They had to file for bankruptcy. I think it was Remington.

Because, yeah, sales are declining. Because I think most people are kind of catching on. Not everyone needs a gun. Right. But sales aren't declining to the point that, I don't know, the industry still did really well during the Obama presidency and I think maybe got a little greedy and maybe overexpanded, and that's why Remington fell down. But yeah, David Hogue, the kid from Parkland, has been talking about these financial

industries like Vanguard and different big banks have a lot of their money in the gun industry. And if you have your money with them, you know. Divest. Yeah, divest or let them know, like, you don't want any of your money in the gun industry and, you know, get it away from those funds that are helping to support this shit. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.

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are like the most resilient business in the world. Like you can't shut them down. They won't shut down unless like the tornado directly hits them. The eye of the storm is overhead. Right.

So basically ahead and after a hurricane, they're like, okay, what's the Waffle House index? And it's just like, are they up and running? Are they at half productivity where they can only offer a few things on the menu? Or are they totally shut down? And that's one of the main indicators they use to determine how well a location is doing. Who's contributing to this index? Is there some dude who's like, all right, man, I hit 14 Waffle Houses today.

Let me tell you, my car was destroyed by debris. But yeah, I mean, is the Waffle House, I guess, is there some kind of database? They must be cooperating, yeah. And it's probably good marketing for them to just be like, we're fucking always open. So we'll work with FEMA to let them know what our index is. That is fucking crazy.

Yeah, that is. Kind of cool. It is. Alright, let's move on to... Also, hold on. I just thought as a shitty employee it's like the worst place you'd want to work because they're like, bruh. They're like, you got work off? I fucking still have to go in because these motherfuckers never shut down. Right. Sorry. Take the boat.

I just had to put myself in the shoes of someone working there. I got to put in a hurricane. Yeah, exactly. You take the canoe in during Hurricane Harvey. You're like, you know I take the bus, right? The bus isn't even running. They're like, I'm sorry. Hey, your shift is a shift. It's Waffle House, baby. You know what we do. Have you guys eaten at Waffle House?

I have. Waffle House has some delicious shit. Of course. Oh, yeah. They have, man, country gravy on everything. Oof. All right. Let's talk about the upcoming midterms, Miles.

Yeah. Let's talk about that. You said your headline in our doc is, Fuck Mueller, Focus on the Fucking Midterms. That's right. Because, again, everybody, all the liberals were dancing in the streets, being like, oh, man, Cohen's going to flip. Mueller's going to laugh. You know, I get it.

Look, this fucking presidency is a nightmare. And we were trying to look at any way to get out of it to end this thing. But I think people need to be really realistic. Right. I think the most important thing is that we have an effective check on the executive branch, because right now with the Republicans controlling all the chambers, that means people in the House and in the Senate can use their power to just simply obstruct or keep the Democrats from properly investigating or getting answers to things or just generally holding the president or his cabinet members accountable. So let's paint a picture that is an actual nightmare for Trump. It's 2019, okay? And they are swearing in the whole new batch of Democrats that have basically given the Democrats control of the House.

Nancy Pelosi maybe gets her gavel back if Nancy Pelosi does in fact become the speaker again. And now we have 21 subpoena wielding house committee chairman waiting to just this full on investigation season. So, okay. So there are 21 committees in the house where their chairmen's actually have subpoena power. So they can, you know, some of them, there's a committee vote or a consultation with a ranking minority member, but none of them actually give the minority like any veto power. As we saw in the House's investigation, quote unquote, into Russia, where Adam Schiff was powerless as the ranking minority member, all he could do is be like, oh, Devin Nunes

is fucking around. And he had no nothing. He could do nothing except to just be like, they're fucking around. So these 21 different committees are always led by whoever has the most. Whoever's the majority party. OK. That means the whatever the ranking member is, you suddenly become the chairperson or you become the ranking minority member. So based on the power, how it's distributed. Now, the crazy thing is when you're checking the executive branch, it can be one chamber like the Senate can do that on their own. when you're checking the executive branch, it can be one chamber. Like the Senate can do that on their own.

The House can do that on their own. It's not like legislation where both houses have to agree on the legislation and then has that in its own process. When it comes to accountability and things like that, any one chamber can do that on their own. They don't need the other chamber to do that. So that's very interesting because right now, as we've seen, is that basically the GOP has used their power to just gum up any investigations, or they use their subpoena power to get fucking, just to obstruct Mueller's investigation,

or just protect the president. But we're starting to see that using their majority as a human shield is not really the best practice, because there are many people who are getting off the fucking ship very quickly, as you can see with the number of retirements. They don't like what's written in the sand. So on the retirements, the question I've had is, is this just an unprecedented number of retirements or are all of these people coming to a point in their career when they might normally retire and it's like an either or thing? I mean, I think a very diplomatic reading of it would be there will always be people retiring there will always be people switching offices or looking to get other positions that so that always happens there's always a set number i think we're above 44 now which is actually not

normal like it's the number of it which kind of transcends the sort of normal turnover when it comes to the congress uh and now we're seeing a lot of people just being like giving weird, weird examples. Like other people would be like, I'm actually going to go into the private sector to do this or whatever. To make money and exploit. Exploit my, like John Boehner did.

Like, look, let me get out a little bit and then I'm going to get all the GOP to come around on medical marijuana or whatever. Anyway. So you look at like Jason Chaffetz. He was like, I want to be with my family or like Paul Ryan was like,

I want to be with my family, which I get. I He was like, I want to be with my family. Or like Paul Ryan was like, I want to be with my family, which I get. Yeah. No, we all want to be with our family. Everyone wants to be with their family. But, you know, it didn't prior to Trump, you seem to have no problem. Right. You were getting my family the fuck away from me. Yeah, you're like, dude, I'm chilling in my condo in D.C., man.

You know, like whatever. So we're seeing people kind of looking at it of being kind of in the GOP in this administration is sort of an untenable situation for some people. Now that people will spin their reasons for doing it. But it's clear to see that some people would rather just retire than even try and put up a fight for their seat. I'm not letting any of these things that I'm seeing give me any kind of hope in the Democratic Party. I'm still very much waiting to see what they do, even if they do get control of the house let's see how they use it because i just don't right so here's the belief no yeah totally because i think

already the democrats as a party the platform is fucking whack it's like it's not it's not resonating with anybody except for the old people over in dc who think it's like it's effective there was a front page article in the new york times yesterday uh about how the democratic party is actually like trying to get people to drop out of the races so they don't like split the democratic right essentially and they're always always choosing like the centrist the establishment person the person who used to be a republican and now is a democrat because that like gets them physically aroused. The idea of somebody who can appeal to both sides.

Or a veteran. Right. And so the people who they're encouraging to drop out are outsiders who are- Yeah, who are like, I was a social worker. Right. Or women who aren't establishment people. And that's bullshit because as we saw in 2016,

we want outsiders. That's what people want right now. But this is exactly why I don't trust them. Right, exactly. I totally agree. Day by day, don't show that they've learned from 2016 at all. Most people in the base want to go way the fuck left. We want to go way.

You know who surprised the shit out of me? Cynthia Nixon. She did this video about legalizing marijuana and like called out how racist like marijuana has been in the past or whatever arresting black people for it well it's been legal for white people for a long time and she literally said that and i was just like you might make me want to vote for a celebrity right i never want i got nervous for a second i was like wait like you literally said it's disproportionately affecting people exactly i was just like whoa she's really coming out swinging and i was just like that's what you have to do to grab our attention especially people of color because especially with with

white candidates they'd like to dance around shit like that they'll never full throw to be like hey man the criminal justice system is completely fucking up an entire section of our population. If we learn anything from the Trump presidency, it's that the majority of the country is not OK with honesty. Like we are not OK as a country saying that the president is racist, saying that the GOP is racist, say or just talking about things as they actually are like we're not okay with reality and the way that the Democratic Party seeing clearly that there is like this crop of black women you know I'm a black woman so obviously I'm going to talk about stuff because this is what I feel like is just like looking at how the Democratic Party doesn't support and uplift black female candidates even though these people have been on the ground.

And delivering election after election. After election for you, building your campaigns, volunteering for you, doing all of the grunt work. And yet we're never elevated, even though I think that black women could possibly save the party. Oh, when you have someone like Michelle Obama in the wings who literally helped Barack Obama become president and you're not using this insane resource that you have. Well, there's a record amount of women and women of color running for office this cycle. It gives me chills. Yeah, it's crazy because now I think people are actually – what's great is to see people be empowered and go, you know what? Fuck this.

I can actually do something. I don't give a fuck about what the traditional knowledge was around this. I know what I'm capable. I see the energy and I will now apply that to running a campaign. Meanwhile, the DNCC's test for whether you are a viable candidate, they take your phone, they go through the list and they're like, okay, how much could you get this person to donate? How much could you get that person to donate? Are they like a fundraiser? Are they like, basically how well connected are you to rich people? Right. Essentially.

Yeah. Cause they're like, look, we can't have any rich people? Right. Essentially. Yeah. Because they're like, look, we can't have any broke people. Right. You can be woke, but don't be broke. But isn't that their job? Yeah, exactly. They're supposed to be connecting them and helping them out. That's right.

Yeah. And you're already seeing. Do you want to do your job? You know, there are plenty of candidates who are raising with small donations or away from using super PACs. I mean, Kamala Harris just, I think over the weekend was like, I'm not taking PAC money anymore because someone's running in 2020. But yeah, there are plenty of people like, I know Elizabeth Warren raised a huge ton of money off small donations. There are a lot of people who

are able to raise off small donor money because yes, the reality is in politics, people, when they look at a candidate, they're like, well, is this guy funded? Because if they're not, then the DNC has to go, well, great. Now we're gonna have to fucking pitch in or whatever, because they don't have their own hookups. But if we can get a lot of these candidates to not rely on the traditional forms of fundraising or their traditional donors or benefactors, then we can start to empower actual candidates that are more, you know, that they reflect the values

that I think people want to see. And so I would tell you, if you see a potential candidate that embody the values that resonate with you as a voter, I would tell you, if you see a potential candidate that embody the values that resonate with you as a voter, I would recommend giving them money because the money does add up and you can get them off of this idea of having to be beholden to a lot of these huge donors and then protect their interests once they get into office. Because let's be real, that's sort of the game. Right. At the same time, if somebody who's not establishment gets the ability to raise money from a super pack or something,

and they're having to compete with the Koch brothers, take that shit. Sure, sure. But again, all that money comes with strings attached. You know what I mean? There are expectations on once you kiss the ring. George Soros. Oh, fuck. We know what's going on.

Yeah. I think what they're doing is, so they see they have this blue wave, as people are describing it, or a blue tsunami, like depending on how excited I'm Japanese. OK, how excited and motivated voters are totally determines how, you know, how many seats the Democrats take and they're just taking it for granted that their base is going to come out in record number because they're mad at Trump but they should not be taking it for granted because if you have some candidate who is just another inauthentic person who is just playing politics that's not going to do it that's not going to get people out and the Republicans are going to the base they are and again the Hillaryary campaign took us for granted yes he assumed that we would vote for her despite all the shit show that was going on in the dnc and those emails about you know trying to undermine bernie's campaign and it was just like we don't like

that shit either so it's just like you guys continuing to take things for granted our vote our voice or whatever it is and i just like, there's clearly no learning. There's been no learning. Which is the problem with the Democratic Party to me in general is that they don't learn from mistakes. Well, the left in general is like a Thanksgiving dinner where everybody wants to say the polite thing about something and nobody's drunk enough to just start truth-speaking at the table.

And right now, once we saw a little bit of truth-speaking work, people were like, oh, shit. Yeah. What they have to realize now is that is actually a very sexy. There's a lot of appeal to say, yo, the country is fucked up. It's fucked up. We have real fucking solutions.

We're not just going to say, hey, man, we're going to get you back to work. No. Talk about income inequality. Talk about like how hard it is to own a home as a person of color. Talk about how hard it is to go to college in this country. Talk about how unequal education is in this country. Even if you do go to a public school, are you going to go to a good one or are you going to go to a shitty one? Talk about the fact that there's no water in an American city.

There's no clean water. Or no power in the Commonwealth in Puerto Rico. Right. Talk about how there's people coming up into Waffle Houses and little schools and little kids and shooting it up in movie theaters. And like, this is batshit crazy. Don't like paper over the cracks and be like, no. Don't paper over it. Let me talk about, let's hold Wall Street accountable.

Like, no, we're past that. And plus, you guys didn't hold Wall Street accountable anyway. Yeah, I'm sure Hillary mentioned all those talking points, but then she also met with all these Wall Street people and was taking money from them, and you knew she wasn't going to do shit about it. Well, I mean, she never said anything that resonated with people of color like once on that campaign trail. That campaign was what reminded me that Hillary was white.

I was just like, oh, yeah. Yeah, like aside from a couple boilerplate sort of talking points, I was never like, whoa, yeah. Yeah. Like, aside from a couple, like, boilerplate sort of, like, talking points, I was never like, whoa, she's really talking that shit. Right. And again, that's because I think she took for granted that, in general, it just seemed like an easy choice. Like, look, you can vote for me or you can vote for this fucking shitbag. She took for granted that Bill was the black people's president ever since he played sax

on Arsenio Hall. And, like, he ain't anymore. And you're not the black people's president ever since he played sax on Arsenio Hall. And he ain't anymore. And you're not the black people's president. And I think their cat had a video game on Genesis. Socks the Cat. Or at least he had a comic book. So, I mean, that was cool. What a time.

How did she lose you after that? I don't know. I mean, back to what I was saying, though, about the midterm. So, right. So, if the Democrats do take control, right, Think about all these committees that have the subpoena power and how they can deliver all these congressional colonoscopies to the administration. For example, the Ways and Means Committee, and this is from an article on Slate. They're talking about all the possible investigations that could happen with Democrats in power. The Ways and Means Committee, they can sharpen the

national discussion around tax fairness and subpoenaing the president's tax returns okay what about the financial services committee that would be chaired by maxine waters i have a feeling if she if she was the fucking chairwoman she would subpoena this shit out of so for what's in their purview and the financial services they have the authority to look at like sort of the phenomenon of you know foreign oligarchs laundering their ill-gotten gains through purchases of luxury condominiums like the ones that are in Trump-owned buildings in New York or that weird building in Miami that he sold for like a 300% profit inexplicably. And you look at even just sort of like the Armed Services Committee, they can convene like proceedings to fucking talk about

why it's bad to share state secrets with people who don't have security clearances. Like basic things that Republicans want to act like, oh, it's not an issue. It's not an issue. You know, there is the ability to actually be like, hold on. You need to come in here and explain what the fuck is going on. Expose the wildly corrupt shit that is happening. Nobody likes corruption. It's going to be hard to argue with, although Trump supporters, I'm sure, will find a way.

But yeah, if Democrats are a sober Thanksgiving, Republicans have become like Irish St. Paddy's Day. Like everybody's just fucking wasted and saying the first thing that comes to mind because they are just going to the base hard. Like all of these House elections, they're wearing MAGA hats. They're basically talking about how Trump is their savior of American democracy. Oh, you mean like this new crop of candidates for the midterms? Yeah, exactly. They're like, lock her up in their campaign ads, which is insane. You're not running against Hillary Clinton and you're saying lock her up still.

The guy who said that has actually been to jail for killing 29 people by violating safety standards in the mine that he- Oh, in his Coleman. Oh yeah, Don Blankenship. Yeah, Don Blankenship. And his talking point is, we don't need to investigate our president. We need to arrest Hillary. That doesn't even make sense.

So yeah, they're just going back to the 2016 election. And basically the thing that they have going for them is, you know, the Democratic Party kind of went away from their authentic groundswell of support and the Republicans went with it. And they're realizing, OK, go to this horrible, toxic wave of, you know, aggression that has been bubbling up. What a weird, I mean, I guess we'll see if this two-year-old campaigning style will still hold up. I mean, it clearly didn't work for the countless Republicans that try to brand themselves as Trump clones in the special elections in the last eight months. So that's one thing to somewhat rest easy about. But yeah, it feels like they're like, well, fuck it, man, just play the greatest hits. Maybe they'll keep dancing.

Yeah. So yeah, I'm not going to play these ads for you, but there's just crazy shit where the guy's spouting off about a guy running for the Senate in Missouri is talking about how Trump is the savior of our country. He has also said that feminists have snake-filled heads, and he hopes his daughters don't become she-devils.

So this is where we're at. Anna Hosniak, you have a shirt that says feminist on. Yeah, Super Producer Anna Hosniak. How many snakes you got in your head? Uh-oh. Your seven tongues said it all. What the fuck kind of thing is that? Snake head? Snakes in their head. These seven tongues said it all. What the fuck kind of thing is that? Snake head?

Snakes in their head. These guys don't get laid. I don't know what it is about Republicans and their fear of women and like pussy. It's like a force field they don't understand or something. Just the way they talk about women is bananas. Clearly that's to evoke the fucking garden. The devil. Yeah, exactly. The beast beast or whatever it's very evocative like let's play out in their mind if feminists took control of the country what does that mean everyone's penis will have will have to be

turned into a vagina and then uh men are like thrown off the like i don't you know what i mean because like it was easy with gay marriage they say'd say shit like, well, what's next? A man's going to marry a horse and a blah, blah, blah. Right. What is that? It's hard to like. What's that fantasy look like? There is no argument, right? Because this is just a person that's dumb or like, I don't even want to call them dumb,

but someone who doesn't have like a real actual point of view. Sound opinions. Right. And then now I'm supposed to argue about the legitimacy of women? Right, right. What am I arguing? If I'm that candidate, I'm debating you. I'm like, women? Right, right. What am I arguing? If I'm that candidate, I'm debating you. I'm like, oh, well, people of Missouri, it's clear to see.

My opponent, I mean, look at all the fucking snakes in her head. And I literally have like two snakes in my hair right now. You're like, that's my hairstyle? Yeah. Thank you. Well, you get where I'm coming from, don't you? I'm really curious what the fear is. I guess it's just that men are no longer

the dominant force in society. But they are. No, right, exactly. But is that like the expiration date that they see coming? It is the fear. It's the fear of, I don't know if it's their own sexual insecurity or the fear that a woman will,

because I don't think any man has a real fear that a woman will seduce him, unless he is a basketball player or like who has actual money that people are coming for. And can you use that excuse where you're like, hey, I was seduced. Exactly. And you literally were. But the average man I don't think has to worry about being seduced. No, men fantasize about being seduced. They might have relationships with women who are less assertive and they might just

think, well, I could never deal with a woman who speaks her mind because that's too intimidating. And so I don't know, guys. Give it a try. It's actually very rewarding to hang out with women. Try thinking of a woman as a person. Number one. Imagine you were talking to another human being and start

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it's fucking tragic yeah tragic so yeah love to everybody in toronto canada at the moment um we we are going to talk about a couple of our thought leaders in America today. Kanye is out here basically live tweeting the writing of his philosophy book. And Shania Twain, who I've always looked to for my political and generally existential philosophical thoughts. And, you know, they both came out with some pretty strange takes over the weekend. Yeah. Well, I mean, Shania Twain had an interview come out, I think with, I want to say the Guardian, where she basically, she's like, this is what she said. And this is a quote.

I would have voted for Trump because even though he was offensive, he seemed honest. Do you want straight or polite? Not that you shouldn't be able to have both. If I were voting, I just don't want bullshit. I would have voted for a feeling that it was transparent and politics has a reputation of not being that right. So again, Shania,

I get it. You're from Canada. Yeah, you don't get it, but you work in America, but you know, you know But you know what Trump means. I like how she ends it with right. You can tell. It's like if you have to end something with right, am I right, guys? Just shut the fuck up. You were taking a hot take.

You weren't willing to say what your chest up. Right. So I guess, yes, the clapback on Twitter is crazy. I saw many people being like, I'm not going on a tour. She apologized. There was someone. She apologized. Right, right. So then after the fucking just chorus of people being like,

no, you can't say that. No. She came out and said, I would like to apologize to anybody I've offended in a recent interview regarding the president. The question caught me off guard.

As a Canadian, I regret answering this unexpected question without giving my response more context. I am passionately against discrimination of any kind.

I hope it's clear from the choices I have made and the people I stand with, I do not hold any common moral beliefs with the current president. I was trying to explain in response to a question about the election that my limited understanding was that the president talked to a portion of America like an accessible person they could relate to, as he was not a politician. My answer was awkward, but certainly should not be taken as representative of my values, nor does it mean I endorse him. I make music to bring people together. My path was awkward, but certainly should not be taken as representative of my values, nor does it mean I endorse him. I make music to bring people together. My path will always be one of inclusivity as my history shows.

Now, I think we gave too much time to her bullshit backing out of what she said statement. So do you think I don't know anything about Shania Twain? I don't know anything about her politics. She's had two great comedy appearances in I Heart Huckabees or just I don't even know if she was in there, but just the, he always retells his story about Shania Twain, and it's like every businessman, you know, who has like the one story that you've heard like five times, it's one of my favorite parts of any movie, even though that movie's a little whack, but.

You know, I hit a hole in one with Charles Barkley. Right, exactly. And then she was in a great episode of Broad City that I was watching last night, actually. But I think she's actually hitting on something. So on Love It or Leave It, the Crooked Media podcast over the weekend, Erin Ryan, who's a friend of the pod and a former Obama, I think, something or other, former Obama, I think, you know, something or other, was saying that she thinks that the like Rosetta Stone for current American politics is authenticity matters more than anything. Like feeling like this person is authentic and, you know, that they can just say what they're saying over social media and you're actually hearing from them and not a bullshit sort of canned statement. Right.

That's what is determining whether people come out for somebody or not. I guess that's true. I mean, look at Cardi B. Right. Like unapologetically herself. And I don't think that's any coincidence why she's been embraced because they're like, oh, this is not a facade. Right. She's been embraced because, oh, this is not a facade.

Right. Because the Internet and social media have broken down this barrier where like people just used to be satisfied with like getting canned shit. Now people are sort of almost fetishizing the idea of like authentically getting plugged into this person's personality. And Trump exploited that like a glitch in the system. And, you know, I think she was right in her analysis of you know how Trump came to power it's insane that she thinks that that would have worked on her right it's weird to be circumspect about it and then also be like but yeah I would have uh you know voted for that do you ever listen to tonight Wayne yes how did you respond to this? Honestly, I don't care.

I mean, I just don't believe in anyone anymore. Oh, wow. And I also, I mean, this goes back to a conversation that I was having with a white friend. I look over. Hello. Hi. Hi, Sharla. This is a conversation I was having with a white friend who was talking about how like their mom is very racist, but their mom is like a really good person.

You know, and like anytime anyone has ever told me like this person in my family is racist, like they're just a staunch, they hate blacks and Jews or whatever, but they are good people. But they are good people. And they always I feel like everyone always makes a point of telling me that second part when they tell me the first part. Right. And I think it is impossible to try to make me believe that a racist person is also a good person. Right. And I think that people hide behind their innocence that's been given to them by privilege, you know, as a white person. Like, I'm a white person like i'm a good person right this is i donate to charity that i believe you know what i mean and it's like

no matter how she came about that conclusion you know like if it was a part of a bigger question or if she was trying to put herself in someone else's shoes you know what i mean like i think it's really hard for me to give passes to people who have never had to face the consequences of what they believe you know what i mean it's just like if you are ignorant or if you are stupid if you're not well read if you don't understand the history of why we are here today right or what the experience is like for certain people like and what it means for people like me to see this president get to do whatever they want and for them to be able to embolden the people that want to see people like me gone or whatever like whatever your reasoning is i don't give a shit anymore yeah i literally don't care

and i don't want to hear it and and to me it's just like i've had so many faves go away because like it's impossible to like love like a white like who who said some shit like wasn't it like helen miriam like somebody like during the oscar so white like said that like they didn't but i don't want to say the quote because i don't know if it's actually the person but i just had so many white faves that i just like love people that i look up to artists singers authors or whatever just say something that i say some shit that i'm just like oh you're white, just like Hillary. Like, she just reminds me.

Because, you know, as a human being, you connect with people not based on race. I don't connect with people based on race. I connect with them based on who they are as a person. Their humanity, yeah. On their humanity. And if I love an artist or if I love – I used to listen to Shania Twain my whole life. And now, like, she's just one of a group of other white people who remind me that they are white and i'm just like cool or someone who says like oh i understand the situation but you don't

really understand yeah and i'm just like no you don't understand it's like and i i don't i don't give a shit anymore i'm just like over everybody yeah it's exhausting it's exhausting well then so that brings us to our next person kanye to the and again from to me he fucking he he was done the second he showed up at trump tower right i was like whoa and even like as that tour was winding down he was like hold on let me take 20 minutes to talk about donald trump or whatever i was like okay so over the weekend we were getting excited because he's like yo five albums coming i was like i an album. Me and Cudi are doing something. Tiana Taylor's got a new album coming out.

Pusha T's got a new album out. Fucking Nas. I'm going to do an album with Nas. And everyone's like, wow. Then he tweeted, I love the way Candace Owens thinks. I guess that's part of his philosophy book. Now, if you guys don't know who Candace Owens is, she is a very problematic woman of color who Fox News just loves because her takes are so

spicy. The melanin just shoots off her skin. It's magical. It's crazy. For example, she hates Black Lives Matter. Okay, let's be real there. She thinks, man, these NFL players, they need to get off their knees because I don't know what they're complaining about type takes. She thinks Trump is quite literally, and I quote, the savior of the free world. And she also has a great video where she talks about how Black Panther is actually a pro-Trump film. So just to give you an idea of who Kanye loves the way this person thinks, this is the person he's talking about.

And it has basically, I mean, now, hey, I think people on the right are like, hey, we love Kanye now. Yeah, man. This was highlighted red all weekend on the front page of Drudge, you know, which is an indication that like it's a story that was the most clicked on. Kanye, quote, thought police want to suppress freedom, embraces black Trump supporter. And yeah, this is huge for them. Racist people needed a win. They were they had a bad run there.

They were repeatedly faced with sort of irrefutable evidence that black excellence was real. Black Panther came through, broke all the records. Beyonce gave the greatest live performance ever. And Kendrick won a Pulitzer. And they were just like, fuck. What the fuck do we do now? And then Kanye came through. Yeah.

And said some shit like that. And then Candace Owens went on Fox to be like, yeah, and Kanye gets it, blah, blah, blah. He's opening up to the fact that liberals want black people to feel like they're victims. And it's time to get past that. Black people are so focused on the past that they don't even talk about their vision for the future. And it's like, I'm sorry, you need to acknowledge history to understand where the fuck we're going. And it's not that people- I mean, this is just some bill cosby respectability yeah and it's his fucking it's old it's tired bullshit and i don't know what the fuck is wrong with kanye but again it's true like and now trump is probably loving it you

see that we got the coolest one now on our team the coolest black guy i'm on that dave chapelle racial draft he kanye can go to racist white people. They can have him. It was so straight up trade. It's trade. No draft. Just trade. Who are we picking up? I don't know.

I don't know. Who do you guys get? Who should we pick up? Who's a really, I heard Lorde is like a real woke white woman. Like she knows, she speaks well. Did she skip a performance in Israel? Yeah. Okay, that's right.

I knew it was somebody. Natalie Portman did too. Natalie Portman did too. I told you she was bae in Israel? Yeah. Okay, that's right. I knew it was somebody. Natalie Portman did, too. Natalie Portman did, too. I told you she was bae. Oh, you don't like that. To a producer on a hose knee, I was like, no, fuck that. Well, I knew it was bae, but that. Jack, who do you think?

I'll draft Jack. Jack's pretty cool. I love Jack. You were pretty clear about being like, JT, he can kick rocks, bro. What's his name? The big black guy that just came out for the NRA. No, we're trying to draft a white guy. Killer Mike.

Killer Mike. Killer Mike can go, too. Just two of them go. But LP? Maybe take LP back? Yeah. Well, did you see his comments after, though? He was like, yo, they freaked.

Yeah, he's like, they did a bait and switch. Although I'm like, you should meet with the NRA. He's so smart. Like, Killer Mike is so smart. When Bernie was running, they did a bait and switch. Although I'm like, you should meet with the NRA. He's so smart. Like, Killer Mike is so smart. When Bernie was running, I really was looking to him. I mean, he said a lot of things that I really respected. And then he came for Joanne Reed, and she owned his ass on Twitter. She owned him so hard.

But again, you know, Kanye, I do. You know, it's hard to. It's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday. Nah. But yeah. I'm happy saying goodbye to Kanye. For a second, I really thought he was reemerging it. Like, he found his shit.

And then, God. No. God bless it. Maybe he's about to come out with a dope album or something. Yeah. I don't know. I'll listen to his album. Recovery is tough because a lot of people use whatever made them break down to treat

a sort of mental imbalance or like a mental disorder. And then when they come out of recovery, sometimes they're absent that thing they were using as a crutch and they need to adapt to being in reality. And like, it just seems like he's on some crazy shit right now. Something's wrong because this is the man who literally said Bush doesn't like black people. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's back when Kanye was black. Now he's something else. Something's wrong Because this is the man Who literally said Bush doesn't like black people Yeah You know what I mean And then That's back when Kanye was black

Now he's something else Well it's funny too Because remember Wasn't he tweeting He's like yeah I've been sampling beats From the sunken place And I'm like

Yeah yeah I think yeah Motherfucker I can tell you're tweeting From the fucking sunken place What is in there Were you identifying With the family in that movie

Yeah right Like what the fuck He's like My teacup game With Spoon is strong as fuck. Almost got him. Oh, shit. Yeah, also, being extremely famous is a form of, like, I believe it's like being insane.

It has to be, right? Yeah, you're living in a world that is not real. It's not real. 100%. And also, like, back in the day when I used to kick around celebrities, a lot of these people, they just don't feel that they can ever meet somebody who's just trying to be their actual friend.

At a certain point, every person you meet, you look at through the lens of, how's this person trying to snake me? How's this person trying to get something from me? It's weird that that's sort of our privilege of not being so famous is that you can go into interaction and not immediately go now this person's up to some fucking weird shit yeah although i always assume that i mean now that the

daily zeitgeist is you know blowing up i right you know i'm rude as fuck to the dude at popeye no but being a celebrity looks absolutely unappealing oh it's terrible it's terrible because also too like i would think about like you just going somewhere looking sloppy as shit just trying to eat and someone be like yo yo it yo, yo, it's Bob-Bob over there. I'm like, oh, fuck. Some play on your name and having a belly or some shit. Right. Exactly.

Look at... Come on. Think of something. Fatty. Fat O'Brien. Damn, yeah. Self-owned. Whack O'Brien.

Yeah. I don't know. Charlotte, it's been a pleasure. Other than that last part where I don't know. Charlotte, it's been a pleasure. Other than that last part where I was shitting on myself, it's been a pleasure having you. Always a pleasure, guys. You guys are the best. Where can people find you?

The next Velvet is at Copper Still in Koreatown, May 4th, 9 p.m. Okay. That is a comedy show in the Los Angeles area. That I host. Yeah. Velvet Comedy. Yeah, for the Los Angeles area that I host yeah for the LA Zeitgang I know we have listeners out here I just feel like I don't see you out there come up to me you know let me know you're out here

I feel like what people in New York New York and LA are rocking pretty hard with the Zeitgang yeah for sure alright and are you on social media I am Charlotte Lauriston across the board that's with a C Miles where can people find you All right. And are you on social media? I am. Charlotte Lariston across the board.

Boom. Boom. That's with a C. Charlotte with a C. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? Well, before I tell people where to find us, Jack, on Twitter, I told the listeners that we would reveal our Zodiac signs today. Right, right, right.

And I just want to make good on that promise. Now, this is a big moment for me because prior to this, no one knew my birthday. I didn't tell anybody. The government didn't even know. And now I'm willing, just because people have been asking on Twitter, I'm going to tell everybody that I'm a Virgo. Wow. I knew it.

It's Virgo season. I knew it. Pay up on it. Check out all the prolific names from that sign. Oh, you're booing the Virgos? No, I said whoa. Do you not believe in the Zodiac sign? Of course I do. Oh, interesting. Now, Jack,gos? No, I said, whoa. Do you not believe in the Zodiac sign? Of course I do.

Oh, interesting. Now, Jack, it's your turn. You know what? I don't feel comfortable revealing my sign. I told the people. Jack, I told the people that you were there. I know. You did that without consulting me.

Oh, you're fucked up. I just. You guys don't even give a shit about this. This is serious shit. I'm serious. I know Jack doesn't. He's actually protective. I've got to wait

a couple months and you know see how things are going in my life before I reveal it and I bet somebody now is on Twitter going to be like

his answer made it very clear what his sign is yeah no I want to hear y'all I want to hear you guys guess what my sign is yeah but 1 in 12 chance

yeah alright but yeah if you're looking for me and all things Virgo and hashtag Virgo season, shout out to all the Virgos. Beyonce, Nas, Michael Jackson.

Is that true? Mozart. Damn. That is a pretty good list. Yeah. Look, we're out here. Is it a coincidence? Yes.

But if you're looking for me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. The Beyonce of podcasts. The Beyonce of- As people always call you that's the beyonce of the uh 50 through 100 top 100 on the news genre of podcast there you go uh you can find me at jack underscore o'brien on twitter you can find us at daily zeitgeist on twitter we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com. We also have other podcasts that we've been making and releasing that are really good, you guys. Ethnically Ambiguous super producer Ana Hosnier and Shereen Yunus' podcast just dropped an episode today called We Are Syria that is really worth listening to. Yeah.

And we're going to have them on a little later this week to further talk about that episode. Culture Kings is out here. Nerdificent is a show that we just launched with Ify Wadaway and Danny Fernandez, two of you guys' favorite guests from the Daily Zeitgeist. Go check that shit out. They've got, I think, four episodes up now, and they're really, really good.

They basically break down pop got, I think, four episodes up now, and they're really, really good. They basically break down pop culture, nerd culture, things that you are sort of aware of but might not be fully versed on, and they just do a deep, deep dive. They've done episodes on cons, like conventions. They've done it on cosplay. Like, these things that I knew about but

didn't know were, like, crazy super interesting until they talked to me about it. This week, they're dropping an episode about the Marvel Cinematic Universe and just going in deep. So yeah, that is a great show. And we're about to launch a show called Behind the Bastards with Robert Evans from Cracked. Footnote. And we are. We will link off to that in our footnote.

Footnote. Where we also link off to the stories and information that we talked about in today's episode. And the song that we ride out on. Miles, what are we going to ride out on today? Oh, today we're going to go out on a song by Avra called Pull Up. I think she's from New York. R&B artist. Just another dope young artist coming out of New York, I think.

And just got like really sort of simple 808 kind of hip hop production. But it's just, you know, she's got a great voice. I like the melodic lines. There's some good harmony in there. I mean, not that it's full on harmony. So don't come at me all the vocalists. But again, this is Pull Up by Abra. That's not technically harmonizing, Miles.

I know, yeah. Just like when I said the scatting that fucking Samantha from Sex and the City wasn't scatting. It was actually jazz vocal something. Look, I'm sorry. I didn't know. Jazz vocal diarrhea. Yeah, it was a mess either way. But this is not a mess.

This is pure talent, pure excellence. This is Avro Palofa. Yeah, we'll also link off to the Arsenio Sachs performance. Ads from the terrible candidates in the GOP House races and Senate races. terrible candidates in the GOP House races and Senate races. And going forward, we want to start licking off in the footnotes to maybe some candidates who need some support, who are good candidates, women of color. So, yeah, shout us out. Any House candidates, Senate candidates who you think need some love, who probably aren't

getting that super PAC support. yeah and we will get the zeitgang behind them yeah give them the zeitgang bump we'll push the whole election in one direction that's in our footnotes on dailyzeitgeist.com uh and that's gonna do it for today we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talk to you guys then. Yeah, we gon' run it up I said we gon' run it up So yeah, we gon' run it up Run it up Get into trouble, get into trouble with me, love Get into trouble, get into trouble with me, love Pull up to your crib, I can shout it, shout it

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